WEBVTT - Dinner in Space!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff from the Science Lab from how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. Hey guys, welcome to the podcast. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Alison I don't know, like the science editor at

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff works dot com. And this is Robert Lamb,

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<v Speaker 1>science writer for how stuff works dot com. Today we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about eating in space. Yes, and uh, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most famous form of space cuisine is

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<v Speaker 1>of course space ice cream. You've had space ice cream? Right? No?

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<v Speaker 1>You never had space ice cream? Never? Seven years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I've coveted it many times I walked past it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they sell it at turner Field and we're of

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<v Speaker 1>course we're based in Atlanta. Um, and I've never had it.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband always dissuades me, like they bring it around

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<v Speaker 1>on the little No. No, there's just just a little

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<v Speaker 1>little cart. That's hells space ice cream. What purports with

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<v Speaker 1>the ice cream in the future where it's the little balls? Right? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I am that's the kind they have get the

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<v Speaker 1>six flags. Oh, that's what I'm confusing it west See.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's just normal ice cream or it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like made into little frozen balls. Regardless, I have had

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<v Speaker 1>just regular old ice cream, which I very much like.

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<v Speaker 1>Had space ice cream because they not because I've been

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<v Speaker 1>into space obviously, but because they sell at it pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much every like UM Space Museum, gift shop or every

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Air Force Museum. And my dad was,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a big seller. Yeah, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge seller. That not so great on the taste, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of cutes I had Neopolitan styrofoam,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because it all kind of tastes like ice cream,

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<v Speaker 1>but also tastes like packing material. Oh that sounds really unpleasant. Yeah, Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't need all that much ice cream in space.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that Apollo seven was the only mission to

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<v Speaker 1>have actually eaten this um this free drive. Also, it's

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<v Speaker 1>coated in gelatine too, so there's a big discrepancy between

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<v Speaker 1>what seems to be astronaut ice cream and when actually

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<v Speaker 1>is astronaut ice cream. Moreover, they have eaten um real

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream in in space with the addition of a

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator on the Skylab mission. Wow, so now I feel

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<v Speaker 1>completely deceived. Yeah, well guess that a refrigerator, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the space ice cream is bogus basically, And okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the last thing. While we're talking about sweet stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>in space. This one guy turned forty seven, astronaut by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of I think his name is Daniel Brandonstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of giving him a real birthday cake, which they

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<v Speaker 1>had no I mean, they had no obligation to pack

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<v Speaker 1>up a birthday cake and sent it into space, they

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<v Speaker 1>gave him an inflatable birthday cake, an inflatable, non edible

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<v Speaker 1>birth like. It wasn't even like a chocolate membrane that

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<v Speaker 1>had been filled with air. It was no. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the guy just got to pop up birthday cake

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<v Speaker 1>was on fire. No, I don't think they too too

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<v Speaker 1>much lighting on fire in space. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the sweet stuff. But there's a whole lot of food

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<v Speaker 1>to be eaten in space other than just ice creaming, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not just guys and gals picking out on

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream and pop tarts? What else? What else? What

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the selections? See there's a Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole list, I mean like everything from like there's

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<v Speaker 1>like chicken all King Chicken, Like, hey, we'll beef strokeing

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<v Speaker 1>off a classic. Yeah, there's a shrimp cocktail. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the shimp cottail. You know, I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the shimp cottail because I have this image of the

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts after hours, they're in their party dresses, they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about space weather, they're dipping the shrimp cottael into the

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail sauce. That's a really good visual, it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this exactly what it's probably happening right now,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt, no doubt. But yeah, you can get like

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<v Speaker 1>scrambled eggs. You can get various puddings, even butter scotch pudding,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, which yeah, I think you're a little irate

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<v Speaker 1>that butter scotch pudding had been into space and you hadn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like why does butter scotch pudding go into orbit? And

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<v Speaker 1>then beverages, of course we have some of those, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of those. Kind of a coffee drinker, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>and there, yeah, and there's like three different varieties of well,

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<v Speaker 1>two varieties of coffee and then decaffeinated. But yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get like ConA coffee or regular coffee, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can get it in various, uh, various forms of like

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<v Speaker 1>sweetened artificial sweetener or you know, with cream or without cream.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's good that everybody's gonna be wired up there. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on that same front or oppositely, you can't drink alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>in space. You guys probably need that, But I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if the Russians have figured out a way to smuggle

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<v Speaker 1>in some alcohol with our fox Bury juice. I wonder, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not though, or make it they've been up there

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<v Speaker 1>for pretty long stretches at a time if they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>some moonshine on the side. Yeah, And then you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually eat fresh fruits and vegetables if you get to

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<v Speaker 1>them fast enough or in your space flight. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess one of the key things to mention. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get more into this kind of thing a little later,

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<v Speaker 1>but the whole reason that you have ice cream that's

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<v Speaker 1>dehydrated is because you don't have to This may sound

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<v Speaker 1>kind of obvious, but if you take all the water

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<v Speaker 1>out of out of a product, then you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to carry the water up with you in some circumstances. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you going on a big backpacking trip

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, a space flight as it were. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to take what you're going to carry, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you have to be mindful of that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And then the other thing is also spoilage too,

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<v Speaker 1>and then trash. I mean the volume of trash you

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<v Speaker 1>want to um pack in and pack out. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>So choosing what to eat that sounds kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you you're married, right, did you guys go through

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<v Speaker 1>that whole wedding cake business where you get to taste

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<v Speaker 1>all the different wedding cakes. Yeah? Yeah, went out. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to sample three or four different cakes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then zero in on the one that we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to go with. Well, astronauts sort of have a

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<v Speaker 1>similar deal in that a few months before there, before

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<v Speaker 1>their mission, they get to go in and taste all

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<v Speaker 1>the different foods available to them, and then they check

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that they want to eat and the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that they rate a six or higher it can wind

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<v Speaker 1>up on the menu. So you know, it's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be kind of interesting to taste all these

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<v Speaker 1>very space foods. But say you have this predilection for

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<v Speaker 1>junk food, Well that's sally need to redose, right, Or

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate pudding or scrambled eggs for junk food, No, not

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Well, I guess you put like syrup on

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<v Speaker 1>them maybe, or tabasca. Well we'll get into the tabasca

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<v Speaker 1>sauce a little later anyway. Um, So your your food

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<v Speaker 1>choices still have to fly by a nutritionist. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to approve them because you're nutritional requirements and your clerk

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<v Speaker 1>requirements are a little different. In space, you eat less.

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<v Speaker 1>They have this whole formula that they come up with

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<v Speaker 1>based on your weight, height, and age, and they come

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<v Speaker 1>up with an optimal calorie intake and then things like

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<v Speaker 1>your bone density loss. In space they want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you have more calcium unless iron too, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I don't know why that is there. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a basically a balance. The whole food selection

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<v Speaker 1>process is a balance between making sure that the that

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<v Speaker 1>the food is going to give the the astronaut the

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<v Speaker 1>nutrients they need, but also making sure that this is

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<v Speaker 1>food that the asternight is going to really genuinely want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat because you're you're not going to have it

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<v Speaker 1>strong and appetite up there, correct, So, and they want

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<v Speaker 1>you to want your food. You don't want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be just drudgery, right. But the thing is is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>taste in space is a little different from taste here

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<v Speaker 1>on our lovely planet Earth in that your smell, your

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<v Speaker 1>sense of smell is diminished because the odor really isn't

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<v Speaker 1>wafting towards you, and you think about how smell influences

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<v Speaker 1>your appetite and you're eating now, and that's less of

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<v Speaker 1>a factor in space, you know, You're just I never

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<v Speaker 1>even thought of that, you know. Just yeah, So you

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<v Speaker 1>want your space food to be kind of spicy too,

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<v Speaker 1>because what happens in space is that you want up

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<v Speaker 1>accumulating a lot of fluid in your lungs and you

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<v Speaker 1>wind up being stuffed up all the time. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically eating with a cold. So you really can't taste

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<v Speaker 1>your food that well. So you add a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, salt and pepper, but not salt and pepper

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<v Speaker 1>like we think of salt and pepper, because obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to just sprinkle all these little bits of

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<v Speaker 1>salt and pepper into the air because liquid salt and pepper,

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<v Speaker 1>which kind of sounds delicious, the pepper is is suspended

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<v Speaker 1>in an oil and the salt is in water. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to put a little more salt on

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<v Speaker 1>your space fries, you're gonna it's gonna be like plouring

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<v Speaker 1>a contact solution on them. That's great, Yeah, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>appetizing digestion in space what's that like? Well, um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty interesting and kind of gross, which kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the digestion in general. But digestion is a is a

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<v Speaker 1>complicated process, even on Earth. Uh, it takes several hours

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<v Speaker 1>for us to digest something, and it depends on multiple steps. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you know, the different stations and an

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<v Speaker 1>assembly line or a desembly line. Um, you got. And

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have gravity because we're you know, we're beings

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<v Speaker 1>that exist in a gravitational environment. So everything is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be pulled down by gravity. Yeah. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>we're mostly fluid in our systems are fluid based. You

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<v Speaker 1>need a good fluid balance. Um. You also need the

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<v Speaker 1>back to need your bacteria and the small and test

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<v Speaker 1>since that plays a key role, and also just physical

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<v Speaker 1>activity moving around. Um, and all of those are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be affected to a certain degree by micro gravity. Obviously, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know your food is not gonna flow through your

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<v Speaker 1>bowels as well, the bacterial concentrations are gonna be altered.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have decreased muscular activity just uh by nature

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<v Speaker 1>of being you know, in orbit, but it's also gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have less moving muscle activity. Moving stuff through

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<v Speaker 1>the gut um, right, that's why they gotta get him

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<v Speaker 1>on the treadmill, Stephen Colbert treadmill, Yes, the Stephen Colbert treat.

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<v Speaker 1>So they say, your first day at your first day

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<v Speaker 1>in orbit is basically going to be constipation and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sounds yeah, well yeah, but uh but yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a You're you're gonna be constipated. You're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty upset stomach, and you're you're probably not gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat unless you want to just have some terrifying

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic vomit going on, and uh, generally you don't want that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, also, you're not gonna want to take any

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<v Speaker 1>laxatives in space for I think obvious reasons. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great tip, thanks for Robert. Yeah, well, we just want

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<v Speaker 1>to touch all the all the bases about badly functions.

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<v Speaker 1>So if Annie Ashtuds are listening that are about to

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<v Speaker 1>go into space, and just remember no laxatives. Yes, don't

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<v Speaker 1>try and smuggle any on. One of the interesting things

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you especially due to like the muscle activity,

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<v Speaker 1>is that if if all this stuff isn't operating right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually can end up you can end up

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<v Speaker 1>with some pretty crazy damage to your intestines. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like the blunt trauma associated with UM Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like due to like trauma like a car ract or

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<v Speaker 1>or even like surgeries can produce this on Earth, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually pretty easy to get in space. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>end up with with intestinal blockages and other nasty situations.

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<v Speaker 1>So you end up you want to keep a close

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<v Speaker 1>eye on your yeah, the state of your g I. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I actually found an old interview with this

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<v Speaker 1>flight surgeon, um Dr Philips Scarpa. He was from the

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy Space Center, and he was saying that you in

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<v Speaker 1>space is kind of like eating on Earth if you're

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<v Speaker 1>laying down like the Romans, you know, reclining or whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of hard to do. You don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>all that hungry perhaps when you're in that position eating,

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<v Speaker 1>So that that was his kind of equivalent to eating

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<v Speaker 1>in space, which makes sense to me. And the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with your digestive system processing. It through not all

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<v Speaker 1>that easy to do if you're if you're laying down,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you're supposed to go for a walk around

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<v Speaker 1>the block, right, yeah, or on the Stephen Colbert that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, may be a nice little stroll, so they

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<v Speaker 1>really don't have too much preparation de voted to all

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<v Speaker 1>the space food, right, I mean what does the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>look like? Um? Yeah, I mean basically it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of you're either adding water to something, you're adding

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<v Speaker 1>hot water to something, or you're you know, nuking in

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave. Yeah. And then so you get your little

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<v Speaker 1>tray which kind of reminds me of the airplane trays.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it has a little containers for all the

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<v Speaker 1>different foods and that's the key thing. You want them

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<v Speaker 1>in the containers so you can eat a variety of

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<v Speaker 1>foods at the same time. Very exciting website points set out.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you don't want your food to float away

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<v Speaker 1>and that that helps with that process. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>get your knife, fork, spoon or your chopsticks as in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of Japan, and you also get some scissors

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<v Speaker 1>to help you tear into those little food packs. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's kind of in a little, uh little baggies. So

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<v Speaker 1>also it would not mind being on dish duty there

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<v Speaker 1>because basically you throw stuff out and then you wipe

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<v Speaker 1>off the utensils with these pre moistened. Yeah, no big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So what so what does the future of space food

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<v Speaker 1>hold for us? I mean, we we've come up a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good ways already, because early on we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>like horrible paste and little tubes kind of like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like if your toothpaste was flavored like beef for salmon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they tested them out on John Glenn, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he I think he was not a fan. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the original space cowboy, that guy. Among his many

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<v Speaker 1>other distinctions, I think he was the first American to

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<v Speaker 1>eat space food in orbit an Earth's orbit anyway. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so apart from John Glenn, who was only up in

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<v Speaker 1>space for a little bit. We're extending our stay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that means we're gonna have to pack a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more food, yeah, more food, and food that can can

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<v Speaker 1>set on the shelf a lot longer, right, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>then eventually, of course we're gonna want to live on

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<v Speaker 1>the moon or blast off to various colonies because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to actually grow food in the in space hydroponically,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, not quite like marijuana, but more like you know, soybeans,

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<v Speaker 1>not quite or not all of it would be marijuana.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. How that will work. Oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reminds me of that Growhouse podcast we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, yeah, except in space, right in space. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had to pick out my ideal meal in space?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you I did well? I think I would basically, um,

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<v Speaker 1>recreate my my college diet, which consisted mostly of ramen

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<v Speaker 1>noodles and peanut butter sandwiches, because some of the noodle

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<v Speaker 1>dishes sound pretty good, and uh, you know, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>beat peanut butter only. I would probably have to use

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<v Speaker 1>creche or smooth. Oh um, wonder if they offer both

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<v Speaker 1>in space. I don't yeah, I don't think it would

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<v Speaker 1>matter because the crunchy bits wouldn't float away. Um, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably go for smooth, just in case with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the digestion issue. Right, that's a good choice. And I

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<v Speaker 1>might not be able to use bread. I might have

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<v Speaker 1>to use tortillas because they're pretty popular, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>if I had like a piece of bread, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be like coated in gelatin, and that's just

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<v Speaker 1>getting too far from what I'm using. And they are

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<v Speaker 1>all these international folks getting up there into space, too,

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<v Speaker 1>so your selection broadens. You could try some of those

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese noodles or sound delicious better sandwich for those Japanese.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the Indian space curry. Yes, the Indians are working

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<v Speaker 1>on creating a space curry for their their future exploration

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cosmos, which I'm I'm a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 1>Median food, So if that were an option for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and doctors advised me that it was a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>from other digestive system, then I would totally go for

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<v Speaker 1>a space curry. So you want to know what I

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<v Speaker 1>would have? Yeah, tell me Tang No No, I totally

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<v Speaker 1>would have Tang. I would definitely have Tang. Nobody likes Tang.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Tang. I think it's great. Um. Also shrimp cocktail,

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<v Speaker 1>a little mac and cheese, maybe some fresh fruit if

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<v Speaker 1>we're eating in the first few days of the space

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<v Speaker 1>shrimp cocktail, it all goes together. Yeah. And ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>definitely space space cream. Yea space ice cream. Since I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had the real thing, well that's the place to

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