1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: All right, news roundup and information overload hour. Here's our 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: toll free number. It is eight hundred and nine point 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: one seawn if you want to be a part of 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: the program. A number of years ago we had on 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: this program, and he will join us here in a second. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Osab Hassan Yusev, a Palestinian author of the best seller 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Son of Hamas. Now, his background is that he grew 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: up on the West Bank. He worked for IS the 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 1: Israeli security and intelligence community as a double agent, and 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: he knows the inner workings about all things Hamas and 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: just how evil their worldview is. I mean, all you 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: really need to do is just take a look at 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Hamas's own charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Or look at what happened on the seventh of October, 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: or look at the you know, last however many years, 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: and the hundreds of thousands of rockets that Hamas has 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: fired into you know, neighboring border towns, like they wrote 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: where we were, we were there, and the night before 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: we got there, a kabutz the neighborhood was hit with 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: a rocket. 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: It's so difficult. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: I mean, in ten years, ten thousand rockets have been 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: fired into that one town. Imagine that, imagine living with 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: that every day. Anyway, before the age of twenty one, 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Masab Hassan Yusev saw things that no one should ever see. 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: He saw poverty, abuse of power, he saw torture, he 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: saw death. He witnessed the behind the scenes dealings of 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: top Middle Easter leaders who made headlines around the world. 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: He was trusted at the highest levels of Hamas. He 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: participated in what they call Antifada, and he was held 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: captive deep inside Israel's most speared prison facility, and his 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: dangerous choices and unlikely journey, you know, through all these 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: places made him a traitor in the eyes of the 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: people that he loves and gave him, you know, access 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: to extraordinary secrets. And he wrote about it, and you 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: know he's this This book became a huge bestseller, The 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Son of a mass And anyway, we welcome back to 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the program. Mosab Hassan Yusef, Sir, welcome back to the program. 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: Hi Sean, thank you for having me back. 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about your life and your time with the 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: group Hamas, and I want you to bring as much 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: color and insight so people really understand what Israel's enemies. 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Why something like October seventh happened. Why why out of 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Gaza Hamas fires, you know, hundreds of thousands of rockets, 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: almost always in a state of war. You know why 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: they build three hundred miles this network of terror tunnels 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: instead of infrastructure and hospitals and schools. Just tell us 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: about your life growing up with them? 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: Yes, well, you know, growing up, I did not see 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: the true nature of Hamas because you know, that was 51 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: my family's business and we had advantages, you know, to 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: be the son of a top Hammaz leader in that culture, 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: I was like a prince, you know, I had the 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: protection of the family or the father, respectability, status, money, power, fame, 55 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: all that. So it was very hard for me, you know, 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: to see the danger of Hamas organizations. But as you mentioned, 57 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: when I was in Israeli prison and Hamas in that 58 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: prison was killing our own people. I experienced firsthand Hamas brutality, 59 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: and when I say brutality, I mean killing, butchering, torturing 60 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: in the worst possible way, and that was against our 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: own people, was not against Israel. Long story short, this 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: is when I started questioning the true ure of Hamas 63 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: and I started the journey to uh realize what Hamas is. 64 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: It was very hard for me to disconnect because it 65 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: meant going against the flow of my society, going against 66 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: the interests of my own father, going against the interest 67 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: of our tribe basically, and that was the most dangerous 68 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: decision I made in my life. 69 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: Let me talk about the first of all, you just 70 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: mentioned how they treat each other. What was the what 71 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: was the general thought process about Israel and Jewish people? 72 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: What were you taught as a kid. 73 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: There is lots of hatred towards the Jewish people. It's 74 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: not a secret, and from early age that was expressed, 75 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: you know, by the parents, by the mosque, by the school, 76 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: on the streets here and then I said, is considered 77 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: as a hit crime there. It's just part of the culture. 78 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: You know, to stab a Jew or to kill a Jew, 79 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: to blow up a us Uh, it's praised in that culture. 80 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Is it praised? You know this whole idea of convert 81 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: or die? Were you taught that philosophy that the mission 82 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: of radical Islamis is that they are to convert the 83 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: world or kill those that won't convert. 84 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: This type of conditioning doesn't happen just overnight. You know, 85 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: it's a process. 86 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: But I'm asking was that what you were ultimately. 87 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: Taught in somehow some way? Yes? 88 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: Now, were you led to believe? 89 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: Were people led to believe that if they killed the 90 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: infidels that or Jewish people or people that were non 91 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: Muslim Again, we're talking about radical Islam as we're talking 92 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: about the terror group of mass Were they taught that 93 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: if in fact they chose martyrdom, that they would be 94 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: rewarded in heaven with seventy two virgins? 95 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: Is that true? Yes? 96 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: But it's not only about temptation. You know, this is 97 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: really watering down, you know, the danger of such a group. 98 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: You know, we just they're not only tempted by a 99 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: promise in the other life, you know, it's a lot 100 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: more than that. There is the national dimension that first 101 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: of all, they considered that they are oppressed, so now 102 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: they are victims. Once an individual agree to become a victim, 103 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: this is a very strong motive. Then this motive advances 104 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: when there's a religious dimension to it, you know, ideological 105 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: dimension that Allah himself, you know, hated the Jewish people 106 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: and this is very clear in the Qur'an. And many 107 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: people say, no, this is not in Islam, And I 108 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: say no, it is in Islam. You know, there was 109 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: a big problem between the prophet Muhammad and the Jewish 110 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: communities of the Arab Peninsula. So Muhammad himself struggled against 111 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: them and he killed them. He fought against them many 112 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: military campaigns, many raids. So in the Quran, you know, 113 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: you find that the Jewish people were disobedient and therefore 114 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: Allah punish them in the worst possible way. So now 115 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: you bring nationalism on the top of ideological extremism, then 116 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: you have personal hatred to add to the recipe. Then 117 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: this very toxic brew, you know, would lead to a 118 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: solside bombing attack. So it's not as simple as okay, 119 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: you know, you take a kid and you tell him, listen, 120 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: you go kill a Jew or you go kill let's 121 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: say an American, and I promise you s having two versions. 122 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: You know, then he goes It's a lot more complicated 123 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: than that. It's brainwashing. It's very sick conditioning and does 124 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: not take place. You know. Of course, not everybody in 125 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: that culture also fall into the strap. 126 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Well, you know, let's go to for example, you know, 127 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: in the years leading up to this past October seventh, 128 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: where fourteen hundred Israelies were slaughtered. I think the sickest 129 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: part of this is many of the terrorists, the Hamas 130 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: terrorists used go pros, and as part of their go 131 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: pro you know, they wanted a chronicle. And a very 132 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: dear friend of mine saw all of these videos and 133 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: said it was the equivalent of Nazi Germany, that the 134 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: lack of humanity was shocking. It shocks the conscience, it 135 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: shocks the soul. So what is in the mind of 136 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: the Hamas killers, the Hamas terrors as they are beheading 137 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: even babies. 138 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: You know, this is hatred in action. You know. The 139 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 3: Hama's brutality really does not differentiate, you know, and as 140 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: I told you, even against the Prestinian people, they through 141 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: their rival party Fatah members from the twenty seventh or 142 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 3: twenty first story building alive. You know, this is how 143 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: bad it was in two thousand and seven. So Hamas 144 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: blow up buses, you know, indiscriminately, and they killed all 145 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: types of people, including Americans in the nineteen nineties and 146 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: in the two thousands, every two thousands, so can you 147 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: imagine also a suicide bomber, you know, and they blow 148 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: themselves up at a market, or at the beach, even 149 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: university school, synagogues. They targeted everywhere, So that was also 150 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: very ugly. So if they have this kind of mentality, 151 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: that someone to blow himself up and just ruin so 152 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: many innocent people's lives, there's no limit for how far 153 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: they can go. Hence I was not I myself wasn't 154 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: surprised by their brutality and what they did in the 155 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: communities surrounding us, but the scale of their attack was 156 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: much bigger than I expected. You know, that was my surprise. 157 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: But their brutality to kill all types of people, even 158 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: the most innocent like children, women, stories about rape, even 159 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: they went beyond that. You know, they kidnapped corpses. You know, 160 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: they kidnap dead people because they think there's a value 161 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: to this corpse and they can exchange it for money 162 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: or for prisoners. You know, they took dead people as hostages. 163 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: You know, there is nothing, you know that can be 164 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: compared to their brutality. Even when you say natism, it's 165 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: actually under a statement in comparson to what Hamas did 166 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: on October seventh. 167 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: So I guess now you understand this. Do you think 168 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: that the people of Gaza the Palestinian people sympathize, tend 169 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: to many of them tend to sympathize with the terror 170 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: group of Mas or do they feel tyrannized by Hamas 171 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: because for example, As Israel was warning the people of 172 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: Gaza to get the hell out or die, you know, 173 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: it was a mass that was stopping them from doing so. 174 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: Listen, even the Guzzan silence, you know, the Palestinian silence 175 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: that I don't hear a clear voice that stands firmly 176 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: and say Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people. Not 177 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: even one solid individual can say that. And this silence 178 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: by itself is participating with Hamas directly or indirectly. Now 179 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: sympathizing with Hamas, of course there is there is a 180 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: big class of people in Gaza. I don't want to 181 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: say a majority because I don't have statistics, but there 182 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: are lots of people in Gaza who support Hamas, give 183 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: them materials, support, and they voted for them. You know, 184 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 3: Hamas were elected in As the stript It has been 185 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: a while, but they were elected. Means that a majority 186 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: of people of Gus voted for them. And now a 187 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: majority of people in Gaza failed to renounce Hamas to 188 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: reject Hamas, to say this does not represent us. And 189 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: this silence, you know, and inability to stand for the 190 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: truth makes them partners in this. So we can say civilians, 191 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: there are innocent civilians. Those could be the children, but 192 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: the majority, I'm not sure about their their innocence. 193 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: Should it should? 194 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: Should the world understand that they are dealing with the 195 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: worst terrorists that want people that are not like them dead? 196 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: Is that how they should be viewed? 197 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: And do you think the only way to deal with 198 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: them is to destroy them? 199 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: The only means I'm. 200 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: The only cure for Hamas today, you know. And I 201 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: speak on the authority of someone who knows them very 202 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 3: very well. I was born in the heart of their leadership, 203 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: the founder of the movement, one of the founders of 204 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: the movement. 205 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: I bet that I bet they love you, Dad, wouldn't I. 206 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what they wish. The truth is that 207 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: they are brutal and uh. The international community tried with 208 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: Hamas in every possible way, and Hamas still insist on 209 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 3: annihilating the state of Israel, and now they are gambling 210 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: with the children's blood, you know, and this is unforgivable. 211 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: Let me tell you this is unforgivable. Haas gambled with 212 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: children's blood, and this is a red line for any 213 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: individual with consciousness. Hence, the final resort, and the last 214 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: resort is the use of force. There is no other 215 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: option and there is no way around it. Hamas must 216 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: be removed from power. Hamas must be eradicated, and this 217 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: is what Israel is doing now. On behalf of you, 218 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: on behalf of me, on behalf of children of Gazza, 219 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: and on behalf of the free world. 220 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: Masab Hassan Yousef, the book is called was best seller 221 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: Son of a Moss. Thank you for that insight. We 222 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And now I hope you stay safe so 223 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: you can continue to tell the world. 224 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Eight hundred nine point one Shawn or 225 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: number if you want to be a. 226 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: Well. 227 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Our two tier justice system, as we discussed in the 228 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: last hour of President Trump's attorney Alena Habba and Greg Jarrett, 229 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: is alive and it's well. Let me take you back 230 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: to July of twenty sixteen. Remember Hillary Clinton had all 231 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: those top secret classified documents on her servers, and that 232 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: does not include the thirty three thousand deleted emails with 233 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: bleach bit on her servers that they never retrieved. That 234 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: does not include the same emails that were on devices 235 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: like BlackBerry's and iPhones that were smashed with hammers and 236 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: simcards removed. But remember this is James Comy talking about 237 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. Now, no reasonable prosecutor will 238 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: prosecute Joe Biden. He's just going to get a stern lecture. Okay, 239 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: that's all. He's going to get slap on the wrist. 240 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: And then compare that to how Donald Trump was treated 241 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: on the same issue about classified documents that of Mare 242 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: at Lago. 243 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: Listen from the group of thirty thousand email else returned 244 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 5: to the State Department in twenty fourteen, one hundred and 245 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: ten emails in fifty two email chains have been determined 246 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 5: by the owning agency to contain classified information at the 247 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 5: time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains 248 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: contained information that was top secret, thirty six of those 249 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: chains contained secret information at the time, and eight contained 250 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 5: confidential information at the time. Although we did not find 251 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to 252 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 5: violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is 253 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling a 254 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: very sensitive, highly classified information. Although there is evidence of 255 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, 256 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such 257 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: a case. 258 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: No reasonable prosecutor wouldever of our prosecute ocase. Really, oh okay, 259 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: now this whole issue not only have classified documents that 260 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: he's getting away from. Now it looks like, you know, 261 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: in spite of all the lies we've caught Joe Biden 262 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: in as a candidate as a president, I never talked 263 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: to my son Hunter, I never talked to my brother, 264 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: I never talked to anybody for that matter, about their 265 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: foreign business deals. And then Devin Archer testifying that well, 266 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: in fact, he was on the call twenty times when 267 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was talking with his foreign business partners, and 268 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: then of course dinners at Cafe Milano, you know, with 269 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: people like oh, the former first Lady of Moscow, or 270 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: Russian oligarch who interestingly never got sanctioned like other Russian 271 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: oligarchs after Russia invaded Ukraine, and they gave three and 272 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: a half million dollars to Hunter Biden, and according to 273 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: Devin Archer, invested over one hundred million dollars in a 274 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: real estate venture. Now, Seamus Brunner is the director of 275 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: research at the Government Accountability Institute. He has a new 276 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: book and he calls it controlla art guards control of guarks, 277 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals and the globalist 278 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: plot to dominate your life. And that kind of scares me, 279 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: especially in light of President She and his visit with Biden. 280 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: And you know, considering Biden has never called out China 281 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: on unfair trade practices, intellectual property theft, never called them 282 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: out on COVID, never called them out on the spy balloon, 283 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: never calls them out on their hostile maneuvers against our 284 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: fighter jets in international airspace, or hostile maneuvers in international 285 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: waterways against our navy. Could it be that Joe Biden 286 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: is compromised by China? Makes you wonder, Here's Biden talking 287 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: about the upcoming meeting with President She. We're not trying 288 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: to decouple from China. 289 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: Listen, how would you define success with your meeting with 290 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: President She? 291 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 6: If you're back on a normal course of corresponding, being 292 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 6: able to pick up a phone to talk to one 293 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 6: another as your crisis, being able to make sure our 294 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 6: militaries still have contact with one another. We can't take 295 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 6: As I told you, we're not trying to decouple from China, 296 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 6: but we're What we're trying to do is change the 297 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: relationship for the better. From my perspective, if in fact, 298 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 6: the Chinese people who are in trouble right now economically, 299 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 6: if the average homeowner or the homeowner, if the average 300 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 6: citizen in China is able to have a decent paid 301 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 6: job that benefits them and benefits all of us. But 302 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 6: I'm not going to continue to sustain the support for 303 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 6: positions where if we want to invest in China we 304 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 6: have to turn over all our trade. 305 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Seekerts all right. Seamus Bruner joins US now. He works 306 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: with Peter Switzer at the Government Accountability Institute. They do 307 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: phenomenal work. You might remember, all of this information regarding 308 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: the Biden family syndicate came from Peter's book Secret Empires, 309 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: and his new book, by the Way, Control of Garcs, 310 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: exposing the billionaire class, is destined to be a bestseller. 311 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: How are you, sir, Sean. 312 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: It's great to be with you. You know, Peter Schweitzer 313 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: and I we follow the money. We followed it to 314 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: James Comy and found the money he was getting from 315 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 4: defense intelligence contractors through the revolving door. We followed it 316 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: to the bidens, and now we followed it all the 317 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: way to the top, to the globalist elites. I call 318 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 4: them the controller arcs. And what we've found is really 319 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 4: shocking stuff. First time ever we've crunched the numbers and 320 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: found that men like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, 321 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 4: all of whom love China. By the way, they don't 322 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: want to decouple from China. They want to make up 323 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: the US more like China in a lot of ways. 324 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: You saw that in the pandemic. You see it with 325 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: the censorship and the deplatforming of conservatives. We found that 326 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: they each have added tens of billions of dollars to 327 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 4: their personal net worth since the pandemic began. Now that 328 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: may not surprise the savvy listeners of your show, but 329 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: what really blew me away was how they were making 330 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: their money. And they're doing it by instructing tyrannical systems 331 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: like the censorship and taking the Hunter Biden laptop story 332 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: off of Facebook, and each of these systems that they're 333 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: building are beginning to control every aspect of our lives. 334 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Well, it's happening. Go into what the premise of this 335 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: book is. For example, your investigation now took more than 336 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: two years, and it is unbelievable the amount of footnotes, 337 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: the amount of work you did on this. You pick 338 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: three specific investigations, the issue of COVID, the issue of censorship, 339 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: the issue of artificial intelligence, which was part of the 340 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: deal that Biden made this week with President Chi which 341 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't like, and that is that he makes this 342 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: big deal saying, oh, well, we both agree that we'll 343 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: never use artificial intelligence when it comes to any nuclear technology. 344 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: Why would we ever trust the communist Chinese ever? 345 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: Again, it's so true, Sean, and you hear this all 346 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: the time, that COVID is over, it's in the past. No, 347 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: COVID was a blueprint for the future. It showed that 348 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: the pandemic was profitable, the locker downs were lucrative, and 349 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: the control that this offered equal to a lot of 350 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: cash for these control of guards. So yeah, the systems 351 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: you mentioned energy, Imagine waking up in the middle of 352 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: the night, drenched in sweat. You go to your thermostat, 353 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: you try to turn it down, but it's lock. You 354 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: can't control the temperature in your own home. Now this 355 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 4: may sound like some conspiracy theory, it's not. It's already 356 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: happening in Jeff Bezos and Amazon and Google. They're making 357 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 4: these so called smart thermostats, and people in Colorado and 358 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: in Texas and even in Gavin Newsom's Communist Republic of 359 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: California have experienced not being able to set the temperatures 360 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: in their own homes. Regarding the food systems, everybody knows 361 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: that Bill Gates is buying up a lot of farmland. 362 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 4: But most people don't know is how or why Gates, 363 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: this former software software salesman, is doing it. And why 364 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: you know why he's doing it is he's cornering the 365 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: food supply. He's pushing for regulations like banning cattle under 366 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: the guise of saving the planet. When AOC goes out 367 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: and says that cal flatulence is gonna end the world, 368 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: she didn't just dream this up. It comes from a 369 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: white paper from the billimal Inda Gates Foundation or the 370 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: World Economic Forum in Davos. And you know, we went 371 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: through mountains of financial filings and I R S nine 372 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: nineties to really find out what the food agenda is here. 373 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: It's why Bill Gates is investing in these fake meat companies. 374 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: He thinks that if you eat a fake lab grown hamburger, 375 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 4: you're going to save the planet. Actually it just enriches him. 376 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: And then on the information front, Sean, everybody's you know, 377 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: we're all very familiar somere you know, some more than 378 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 4: others about how the censorship of the big tech companies 379 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: is affecting our lives, infecting affecting how we can share 380 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 4: information with each other. This is just the beginning. These 381 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 4: control guards. They're harvesting your data, they're ratcheting up AI, 382 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: and they're going to use it to eliminate as many 383 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 4: of your jobs as possible. Some estimates up to forty 384 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: percent of the jobs just gone. It's happening right now. 385 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 4: No coincidence that Bill Gates backed open AI. That's the 386 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 4: chat GPT maker is funding studies on universal basic income. So, 387 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty frightening stuff. It's happening right now. 388 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: It's not too late. But we need to be armed 389 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: with the facts. 390 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Well, we do need to be armed with the facts, 391 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: all right, quick break more. But Seamus Bruner, he is 392 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: the director of Research for the Government Accountability Institute. His 393 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: new book is out, Control of Garks exposing the billionaire class. 394 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: There's secret deals and the globalist plot to dominate your life. 395 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores all around the country. 396 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: All right, we get to you now. 397 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: Seamus Bruner is with us with the Government Accountability Institute. 398 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Is brand new book just out this week, Controller Garks 399 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: exposing the billionaire class. There's secret deals and the globalist 400 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: plot to dominate your life. Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, 401 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: bookstores all around the country. The fact that the Biden 402 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: family syndicate, you know, and Peter pointed this out in 403 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: secret Empires and the Biden family did what one billion 404 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: that later became one point five billion with the Bank 405 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: of China. We now have the what's app message thanks 406 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: to Congressman James Comer of the House Oversight Committee. I'm 407 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: sitting here with my father. He's talking to a top CEFC. 408 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: That's the kind of energy conglomerate state run. We're wondering 409 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: why you didn't keep your commitments. In between everybody he 410 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: knows and my ability to hold the grudge. You're gonna 411 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: regret not following through on what you promised, and lo 412 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: and behold. Five days later, five million dollars ends up 413 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 1: in one of their show corporations, identified by James Comer. 414 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: Can you explain that? 415 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Sean. I mean, your listeners know very 416 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: well how the Biden family have sold out this country 417 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 4: to communist China, but they haven't done it alone. And 418 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways, you look at Joe Biden 419 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: and you think he's not really in control of a 420 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 4: lot of his own faculties. There's got to be some 421 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: other people pulling the strings. And the big tech guys, 422 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, I mean Zuckerberg keeps a 423 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: copy of Shijing Ping's writings on his desk. I mean, 424 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 4: shockingly and bizarrely, Mark Zuckerberg asked she to give his 425 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: child to the name in Chinese for Zuckerberg's first born child. 426 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: Bill Gates, likewise, he's been for decades working hand in 427 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: glove with the CCP, helping them to censor their own 428 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: opposition within China on platforms like he's got you know, Skype, 429 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: and he has messaging platforms through Microsoft. He helps China 430 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: identify its dissident journalists. And so what all this really 431 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 4: amounts to? And you really saw it last night or 432 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 4: the other night in California with the standing ovation. People 433 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: like Larry Fink from Blackrock. They don't want to decouple 434 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: from China. Obviously, they like China. They like the Chinese 435 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 4: that the efficiency, you know, they call it efficiency. During 436 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: the pandemic, Bill Gates and even Tony Fauci praised the 437 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: efficiency of China. They want to be able to use 438 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: that efficiency on us. 439 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's one hundred percent true. But they 440 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: have a history of never playing fair. I don't think 441 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: Joe has the stomach or the willingness to ever confront 442 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: our number one geopolitical foe that has now been pushed 443 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: into the arms of Vladimir Putin and the Mullows in Iran, 444 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: which I call the new access of evil? 445 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: Am I wrong on that? 446 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 4: Not at all? Not at all. Sean and George Soros 447 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: is a big character in this book. He has said 448 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: that China's essential for building the new World order. George Soros, 449 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 4: of course, is funding these anti American and pro hamask 450 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 4: groups that are destroying the country. 451 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: Have you been able to trace that money directly back 452 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: to him? 453 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 4: Well, his Open Society network is funding a lot of 454 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 4: these groups. 455 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and that's is that all his money. 456 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: The Open Society Institute. Yes, that's George so money. And 457 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 4: what's even more shocking actually is that George Soros. We 458 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: were wondering if he was even going to be around 459 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: by the time the book came out, So we tracked 460 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: down each of his children, and Alexander Soros has just 461 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 4: been put in charge. He's the heir to the dark 462 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: money fortune. He's even more radical than his father. 463 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Let me ask you about this. 464 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: You talk in the book a lot about, for example, 465 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: the likes of Bill Gates, or you talk about other 466 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: people Silicon Valley and the great reception for example, we 467 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: saw from them. I assume that this is a big 468 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: part of why you call it control of guards. And 469 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you know, obviously you've coined the term 470 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: in that sense. What are they doing that the American 471 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: people need to know the most well right now? 472 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: I the digital ID is a very important issue that 473 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: people need to know more about. I mean, just last week, 474 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: the Bill I Molend, the Gates Foundation, the United Nations, 475 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: the Rockefeller Foundation, they hosted an event called fifty in 476 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: fifty where they're saying that they're going to roll out 477 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 4: digital ID regimes in fifty countries within five years. That's 478 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: just right around the corner. And you see huge push 479 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 4: from companies like Blackrock and Larry Fink to get behind 480 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: digital ID and once they can link all of your 481 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: data up to a centralized database and tie it to 482 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: a digital ID, this will be like your gun purchases 483 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: or you know, like anything that you buy. They are 484 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: using kind of the AI to create profiles on you 485 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: and find out how just how opposed to the Biden 486 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 4: regime you might be. This is exactly what China has. 487 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: It's a social credit score system. It's a de facto 488 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: social credit score system. They're very on board with that system. 489 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: Blackrocks on board with it. Microsoft and Bill Gates are 490 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: on board with it. And so you see, like I said, 491 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: they're not trying to decouple from China. They're borrowing their 492 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: pages from the Chinese Communist Party playbook and they're trying 493 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: to implement them right here in the USA. 494 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate it. I hope people will pay attention 495 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: to this book. It's called Controller Garks Exposing the billionaire class, 496 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: their secret deals, and the globalist plot to dominate your life. 497 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: It's on Amazon dot com. We put a link on 498 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com. Now in bookstores all around the country. 499 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: Seamus Bruner, We thank you, appreciate you being with us. 500 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and ninety four one. Shawn Is on number