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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is Ready for the Playoffs.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan hansis Heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and

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Speaker 2: it is the two Thy twenty three I guess hyphen

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Speaker 2: twenty four Super wild Card weekend preview.

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Speaker 3: And you know, usually that would be all we talk about.

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Speaker 2: We have a great slate of games on Saturday, Sunday

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Speaker 2: and Monday night as the teams with of course the

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Speaker 2: Ravens and Niners on buy one of these teams will

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Love that where That's where we're

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Speaker 2: at now. We have said goodbye thirty two minais sixteen

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Speaker 2: would be sixteen, but.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen make it too many US eighteen teams out? All right?

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, we're correct.

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Speaker 4: There are some extra math going on there, but I

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Speaker 4: think thirty two minus fourteen would.

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Speaker 3: Have Could you see the flash of panic?

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Speaker 5: There was some panic, but I mean you tend to

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Speaker 5: find your way out.

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Speaker 4: Of those eighteen teams are.

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Speaker 2: Dunzo and also Dunzo Ding Dong, the coaches dead, oh

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Speaker 2: ding Dong, Bill and Bill is dead, Bill Belichick is

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Speaker 2: out and Gregy. That is what we have to start

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Speaker 2: with Bill Belichick and the Patriots mutually agree with much

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Speaker 2: respect on both sides, to part ways after twenty four years.

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Speaker 3: I am absolutely thrilled by this news, clearly.

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Speaker 2: Because in the back of my mind I always worried

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Speaker 2: about him getting another quarterback and the Pat's getting hot again.

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Speaker 3: Now they're starting over completely.

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Speaker 2: And obviously my feelings as a Jets fans are very

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Speaker 2: different from Greg's feelings as a Patriots fan. So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna kind of dig into all of it. But first

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Speaker 2: we start with Bill Belichick, who, after the greatest run

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Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL over twenty four years,

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Speaker 2: nine super Bowls, six wins, the greatest QB coach combo

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Speaker 2: ever with Tom Brady, unbelievable ride, he steps up to

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Speaker 2: the podium in Foxborough and talks about the end of

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Speaker 3: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 6: Robert and I, after you know, a series of discussions,

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Speaker 6: have mutually agreed to part ways, and for me, this

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Speaker 6: is a day of you know, gratitude and celebration. Start

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Speaker 6: with Robert and his family. It's great, so much, thanks

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Speaker 6: for the opportunity to be a coach, here for twenty

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Speaker 6: four years. It's an amazing opportunity received from out of support.

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Speaker 6: We had a vision of you know, Billy and winner

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Speaker 6: Billy championship football team here and that's exceeded, exceeded my

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Speaker 2: And Robert Craft, the owner of the Patriots, who obviously

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Speaker 2: made this decision ultimately to start over with New England,

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Speaker 2: also spoke on this momentous day in franchise history.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday we met and mutually agreed mutuk ways, amicably and

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Speaker 7: like a good marriage, a successful head coach owner a

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Speaker 7: relationship requires a lot of hard work, and I'm very

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Speaker 7: proud that our partnership lasted for twenty four years. I

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Speaker 7: don't think in the NFL there's been any other partnership

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Speaker 7: that lasted longer and has been as productive as ours.

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Speaker 2: Bill was hired in two thousand by Robert Craft, Is

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Speaker 2: that correct?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, replacing Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 3: By two thousand.

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Speaker 2: The end of the two thousand and one season, he

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Speaker 2: so many great moments followed.

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Speaker 3: Greg as a Pats fan kind of where I mean

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Speaker 2: You know now you're a Pats fan, maybe tomorrow or not,

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Speaker 2: But where is your head and heart at? I know

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Speaker 2: this was kind of expected in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 2: but now that you actually see it happening and the

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Speaker 2: Patriots are moving forward, Bill's moving somewhere else where you're at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was emotional, even though they didn't show a

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Speaker 4: lot of emotions really up there. I think the one

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Speaker 4: was actually talking about the fans, talking about the parades

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Speaker 4: and the send offs before all those Super Bowls. But

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Speaker 4: this was expected, and I was just happy that they

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Speaker 4: But I'm glad it just didn't end.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even to see I didn't need to find

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Speaker 4: It didn't need to end in rancor and sources kind

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Speaker 4: and these two men both have egos as you would expect,

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Speaker 4: the years, but I appreciate, as I guess in this case,

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Speaker 4: of children of this marriage, that they put a nice

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Speaker 4: about the pr of it all, but I was happy

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Speaker 4: that it did end that way. But I didn't know Mark,

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Speaker 4: and I thought I was really telling, in my mind,

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Speaker 4: not the best move that Craft had to go up

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Speaker 4: there and talk at all. That Belichick talked for five

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Speaker 4: minutes and then so did Kraft and it ended on Craft,

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Speaker 4: and it's just like I think that was just a

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Speaker 4: little bit telling there that in this moment of all moments,

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Speaker 4: say goodbye. They didn't take any questions that then it

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Speaker 4: turned into kind of what it all meant for Robert Crafts.

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Speaker 4: I understand it, he's the owner. He's got to also

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Speaker 4: speak with the media later today. But I did think

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Speaker 4: that was just like a little bit of a window

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Speaker 4: into this moment, because I think we know from what

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Speaker 4: Belichick said that it really wasn't all his choice.

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Speaker 8: I would rather that Belichick had the last word exactly,

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Speaker 8: and I'm with you on that. That said, I really

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Speaker 8: agree with something that you mentioned is that like the

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Speaker 8: tone of it.

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Speaker 5: It was short and sweet and very Belichick fashion.

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Speaker 8: But no matter what the whispers are, and that there

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Speaker 8: were clashing egos, It's like that seems natural to me

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Speaker 8: after a couple of really tough years and twenty four

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Speaker 5: But I thought the tone of it was genuine enough.

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Speaker 8: They both pointed to each other as having helped each

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Speaker 8: other completely exceed the expectations they set when they first

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Speaker 8: funny that I feel, like Mike Garrifolo noted that, like

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Speaker 8: Sean McVay was fourteen years old when Belichick joined the

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Speaker 8: football watching. I was very into Belichick when he was

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Speaker 8: Cleveland's coach. I think, you guys know, it's like I

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Speaker 8: wrote him letters. He was a fascinating figure to me.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I'd be covering football if it

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Speaker 5: And Cleveland and kind of what he's been since.

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Speaker 8: And it's like, as much as this was expected over

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Speaker 5: It's still like I almost I'm.

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Speaker 8: Like, in the twenty four hours, we've lost Pete Carroll

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Speaker 8: next year, and Nick Saban and Nick Saban. It's just

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Speaker 8: kind of like an incredible changing of the guard.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's interesting how they've gone about the announcement.

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Speaker 2: You said, how it's craft that kind of finishes the

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Speaker 2: presser five minutes each.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't this have also been and.

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Speaker 2: I know some of this pomp and circumstance, you know

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Speaker 2: have also done the thing where all the famous patriots

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Speaker 2: and that's not the end that it's ten. There was

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Speaker 2: no tension, it was amicable. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: Kraft decided that he didn't want Bill around anymore, and

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Speaker 2: he wanted to start over, and Bill is now getting

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Speaker 2: that chance, and we're going to see what happened, so

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Speaker 3: Also, he's just free.

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Speaker 2: There's no trade here, there's none of that that could

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Speaker 2: have gunked up some of the relation as well. So

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Speaker 2: they made that decision to end this nice and clean,

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Speaker 2: and now we see what's next for Bill Belichick, Because

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Speaker 2: there is a what's next.

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Speaker 3: This guy will continue to coach.

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Speaker 2: It's being reported that way, and you kind of always

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Speaker 4: That was what struck me. Craft saying he doesn't look

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Speaker 4: for Belichick except for when he plays there. And Belichick

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Speaker 4: He wants to get back at Don Shula for once

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Speaker 4: taking shots at Belichick back in the day. And he'll

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Speaker 4: probably get that opportunity. I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 8: I think from that angle, like it feels like it

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Speaker 8: the New Engle thing, and they did Etan did mention

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Speaker 8: up where you left off from Belichick. Like there's some

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Speaker 8: organizational changes coming and the way that Belichick's been doing

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Speaker 8: it for twenty four years might look very different. They're

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Speaker 4: I do think it's worth and we'll do it. You know,

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Speaker 4: try doing it forever. Like looking back, people talked about

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Speaker 4: But how how Brady had those multiple different kind of

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Speaker 4: And it hit me with carol In Belichick leaving two

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Speaker 4: Is he willing to take a step back and just coach,

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Speaker 3: That's the risk of bringing Belichick.

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Speaker 2: But he will bring instant If any head coach can

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Speaker 3: Because it was a dark, dark, dark era era.

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Speaker 8: The one thing I think is interesting is when he

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Speaker 5: And I kind of love that.

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Speaker 5: Can he do it? Is the game passed him by?

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Speaker 8: And it's like that is the kind of thing where

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Speaker 8: opening Monday Night game Week one, it's gonna be Bill

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Speaker 2: Like we said, the NFL is starting to take over

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Speaker 3: Oh there's a little glitch, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Bill bell seventeenth game will be coaching against the Patriots

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Speaker 4: I just looked Bucket, Dan. You just motivated me to

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Speaker 2: That could be Aloss Belichick coming out southern California now team.

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Speaker 4: He loves New England too. I think he would like

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Speaker 4: to just he's an East Coast bro, stay stay there forever.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget when he played Barcel's the first time here.

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Speaker 3: All right, Okay, good stuff, Bill out.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what's next, and you know we'll be tracking

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Speaker 4: What does that call?

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Speaker 3: By the way, Uh?

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Speaker 3: Come on, and if you hit it again, Eric, if you.

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Speaker 8: Hit it twice, I'm not sure that's accurate.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and when we get back,

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Speaker 2: super Wildcard. I called it Super wild Card Weekend, but

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Speaker 2: It is a holiday weekend, so kind of is accurate.

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Speaker 3: Holiday weekend. Nice Martin Luther King on Monday, Monday beautiful.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go six games to get to Let's

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Speaker 2: start with Browns at Texans.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, Hello, Dolly, Mark Sessler. You know what now?

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking Mark, because I've been doing this podcast

444
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Speaker 2: with you for eleven seasons I've known you Mark for

445
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Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen years now, and the Browns have made the

446
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Speaker 2: playoffs once since we've known each other.

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Speaker 3: Right, it just so happened.

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Speaker 2: It was in the COVID year and that was a

449
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Speaker 2: wonderful win in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: But the building's empty, you know what I mean? Yeah?

451
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Speaker 3: Like what you That whole year was weird. But now

452
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Speaker 3: we got the Cleveland Browns back in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: With Joe Flacco on the magic carpet ride and Stefanski

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Speaker 2: dialing up plays and the whole team playing at an

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Speaker 2: elite level going into Week eighteen. And now they're going

456
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Speaker 2: on the road and guess what, it's not an empty

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Speaker 2: Heinz Field. It's gonna be seventy thousand screaming fans. Probably

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Speaker 2: a lot of Browns fans too. I'm gonna I'm gonna predict.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna take advantage of this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna predict a good fifteen percent will be Browns

461
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Speaker 2: fans who have gobbled up tickets to get down there,

462
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna face.

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Speaker 3: Your boy C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud and the Houston Texans. The would could have should

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Speaker 2: a team of around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So we start right here two and a half the

468
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Speaker 2: Browns giving two and a half points on the road,

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Speaker 2: which tells you so much about the excitement around your

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Speaker 2: beloved Brownies.

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Speaker 8: I really think it starts with Joe Flacco. Obviously, it's

472
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Speaker 8: one of the more stunning sports stories around because he

473
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Speaker 8: was their arch enemy for eons and has been completely

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Speaker 8: embraced by the city.

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Speaker 5: And it's not just the nature of who he is,

476
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Speaker 5: Like four.

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Speaker 8: Straight three hundred yard passing performances in the long history

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Speaker 8: of the Cleveland Browns, no Browns quarterback has ever done that.

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Speaker 8: PFF noted that when they played the Texans a number

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Speaker 8: of weeks ago, when Amari Cooper exploded for two hundred

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Speaker 8: and sixty five yards, that PFF has never charted a

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Speaker 8: single game in their history of a quarterback recording more

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Speaker 8: air yards than in that game.

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Speaker 4: So receiver recording more area blacko, Yeah, okay, the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I think also Cooper maybe in the history of their

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Speaker 4: their site as well.

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Speaker 8: It would make sense because in that game you got

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Speaker 8: what you've got from Flacco and a number of these performances,

489
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Speaker 8: which is like electric downfield passing, I mean, and it's

490
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Speaker 8: like he's he's he's helped Dave and Nadjoku level up.

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Speaker 8: Amari Cooper, who's kind of worked with all their quarterbacks,

492
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Speaker 8: surprisingly has leveled up.

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Speaker 5: I guess the thing about that game.

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Speaker 8: Though, because it's like it was recent enough where you

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Speaker 8: could go back and track it, it's really hard to

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Speaker 8: put a read on it. You don't expect like Amari

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Speaker 8: Cooper to do that again that that just feels like

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Speaker 8: an aberration.

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Speaker 4: But there was no CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 8: The Texans were banged up.

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Speaker 5: In that game, had no Will Anderson.

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Speaker 8: Although Will Anderson and half their defensive line aer on

504
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Speaker 8: the injury report right now, Tank Dell Or wide receiver

505
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Speaker 8: is still banged up. Nowhere Brown has banged up, Robert

506
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Speaker 8: Woods has banged up. Cleveland had no kicker in that

507
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Speaker 8: game and had to go for two over and over

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Speaker 8: because Dustin Hopkins had a hamstring injury and still does.

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Speaker 4: And so they helped them.

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Speaker 8: I mean it did help them because I think it worked.

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Speaker 8: You don't want to have to deal with that situation again.

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Speaker 8: But it does speak to how aggressive they were in

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Speaker 8: that performance. I think that was Joe Flaco's best game.

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Speaker 8: Can you duplicate it again? I guess that's the question.

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Speaker 8: Can you do it again because you're not gonna get

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Speaker 8: case Keenuman.

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Speaker 4: I think c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud makes everything possible for the totally different, totally different scenario.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, the Flacco magic that was legit,

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Speaker 2: and Will Anderson, even if he plays as clearly, wasn't

521
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Speaker 2: the same guy who's going in and out on pass

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Speaker 2: rushing downs their last matchup. And I should since we're

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Speaker 2: mentioning injuries, I got a little developing news here.

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Speaker 3: WHOA and this is significant an onhuh.

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Speaker 2: Browns Pro Bowl cornerback Denzel Ward suffered a knee injury

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Speaker 2: in Thursday's practice, putting his status in question for Saturday's

527
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Speaker 2: playoff game against the Texans. Kevin Stefanski said that war

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Speaker 2: Is according to ESPN, said that Ward limited in the

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Speaker 2: practice but offered no other details. The team officially lists

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Speaker 2: Ward as questionable. This is a man who's just named

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Speaker 2: to Pro Bowl. He is a key contributor mark on

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Speaker 2: the number one ranked defense of the Browns and c J.

533
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Speaker 2: Stroud is balling out at a historic level, so that

534
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Speaker 2: would be bad.

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Speaker 4: That is huge.

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Speaker 8: He's one of five players in the NFL to not

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Speaker 8: allow a touchdown and coverage Martin Emerson on the Browns also,

538
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Speaker 8: but in games when Denzel Ward has not been on

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Speaker 8: the field, dating back, you know, before this season two,

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Speaker 8: it's been a critical difference.

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Speaker 4: They are special on defense because they can play man

542
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Speaker 4: coverage and there's almost no team in the NFL that does.

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Speaker 3: It like that.

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Speaker 4: I would say they are the best man coverag team.

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Speaker 4: They're the best at everything. You can slice up the stats,

546
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Speaker 4: and they've been excellent. Now they haven't been as excellent

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Speaker 4: in the back half of the year. They've been a

548
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Speaker 4: little more reliant on turnovers and they've been able to

549
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Speaker 4: do that, but they haven't been as stingy giving up

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Speaker 4: yardage week after week. That first game matters to me

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Speaker 4: because a it was only three weeks ago. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it was very recent, and it be I do think

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Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to beat the same team twice

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Speaker 4: in four weeks. I think that I don't know if

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00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: it's a disadvantage for the Browns, but it's just I

556
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Speaker 4: think it's a difficult thing to do to dominate them

557
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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Tamiko Ryan's a gifted defensive coach that gets

559
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Speaker 2: right Budy all that, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and you know it goes both ways, but that

561
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 4: was a woodshed operation. And like you mentioned, Mark, some

562
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Speaker 4: of those throws in that game were just so outrageous.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there was the one where they were holding

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Speaker 4: Flacco on fourth and nine or something and he just

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Speaker 4: whips it to the sideline and it to totem that

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Speaker 4: I don't know what next Gen stats percentage was for

567
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Speaker 4: completing that play, but I'd give it like two percent,

568
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Speaker 4: and Flacco and Cooper made it happen. That said, since then,

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Speaker 4: things have actually worked out better. I think for the

570
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Speaker 4: Browns we got a little rest situation. The Browns got

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Speaker 4: to sit last week, that's a bonus, and the Texans

572
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: are more banged up. I know Anderson didn't play in

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Speaker 4: that game, but he was ineffective last week when he played.

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Speaker 4: What makes them you on defense was they were able

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Speaker 4: to get pressure rushing for Grenard and Anderson were one

576
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Speaker 4: of the best tandems in the entire NFL. Grenard hasn't

577
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Speaker 4: practiced this week. I don't know if he has an

578
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Speaker 4: injury designation, but he hasn't played in multiple weeks and

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Speaker 4: it seems like he is less likely to play. And

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Speaker 4: so the one thing he did do individual drills, I'm

581
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Speaker 4: seeing on Thursday, so that is a positive that he's

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Speaker 4: going to give it a go. But also they were

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Speaker 4: bad up front and their right tackles injured, and that

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Speaker 4: game really stands out.

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Speaker 5: To me that the Browns whipped them up front.

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Speaker 4: There's a guy Charlie Heck is their right tackle, Juice

587
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Speaker 4: Strugs is their left guard, and they've just got some

588
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Speaker 4: big time weaknesses which really stuck out to me last week.

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Speaker 4: I mean, watching that Colts game, Danny like, their offensive

590
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Speaker 4: line stunk. The only reason they won that game is

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Speaker 4: because of Steve J. Stroud, But on a snap to snap,

592
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Speaker 4: like series to series basis, the Colts were tougher. And

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Speaker 4: so if I look at a situation where I think

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Speaker 4: the Browns might be better up front, certainly on their

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Speaker 4: defensive line, and even though they're banged up on their

596
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Speaker 4: offensive line, does the Texans really have the players that

597
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Speaker 4: take advantage, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's certainly fair. I mean we like the Texans

599
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Speaker 2: a lot. That AFC South Game Championship game, as it

600
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Speaker 2: turned out to be, was a dropped swing pass away

601
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Speaker 2: from maybe turning out totally differently, and the Texans aren't

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Speaker 2: even in the playoffs. Flaco is the guy I think

603
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Speaker 2: everyone is most excited to see because you want to

604
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Speaker 2: the chance to rest guys is great. I don't love

605
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Speaker 2: just putting them on ice for a couple of weeks

606
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Speaker 2: because he was so red hot. Is he gonna come

607
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Speaker 2: out and still be that way? The one thing is

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Speaker 2: the only thing you could say in terms of criticism

609
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Speaker 2: is he hasn't He's been airing and out at such

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Speaker 2: a lethal level. He's also turned the ball over. He

611
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Speaker 2: had more interceptions eight and five starts and Stroud did

612
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Speaker 2: in his fifteen starts five. So I think it's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 2: If you could put heat on Flacco and he's going

614
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Speaker 2: to force the ball, it could turn into is there

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Speaker 2: a turn over that changes this game? But if they

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Speaker 2: don't get if they do not generate a pass rush Houston,

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Speaker 2: I totally see this going your way, Mark and the

618
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Speaker 2: Browns continue to be a huge story in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Browns could not run the ball in that

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Speaker 8: game against the Texans. I think they had a fifty

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Speaker 8: six yards off of twenty seven carries by running backs

622
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Speaker 8: and that you know that's not the team they want

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Speaker 8: to be, but they I think that's when I made

624
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Speaker 8: an argument for Kevin Stefanski being the Coach of the

625
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Speaker 8: Year because the offense like an EPA and.

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Speaker 5: Stuff through the era up before Flacco was.

627
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Speaker 8: Just not good and he's found a way to win

628
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Speaker 8: with this team without what his strength is like they

629
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Speaker 8: haven't been able to run the ball like their passing

630
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Speaker 8: game pre Flacco was a huge mess.

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Speaker 5: It's changed a lot with Flacco.

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Speaker 8: But I do think that like at some point does

633
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Speaker 8: the bow break when you've got so many injuries along

634
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Speaker 8: the offensive line, But they have been using six offensive

635
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Speaker 8: linemen at a higher percentage than any team in the

636
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Speaker 8: league over the past couple of months. And Bill Callahan

637
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Speaker 8: is one of those offensive line coaches who obviously is

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Speaker 8: a difference maker, and I think in a different situation

639
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Speaker 8: a different coach, some of these injuries start to create

640
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 8: too much chaos. But you gotta keep Placo safe, like

641
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Speaker 8: I don't. Vlaco has had a lot of turnovers as well.

642
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Speaker 8: He's thrown picks, and it's like it's the nature of

643
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 8: being aggressive, But the Texans don't turn the ball over.

644
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Speaker 8: There the fewest giveaways in the league, and so you're

645
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 8: gonna have to find a way to even that out.

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Speaker 4: If you're Cleveland right in. I think focusing on the

647
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Speaker 4: running game is a big thing because these both these

648
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: teams would be desperate. They would love to run the ball.

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Speaker 4: They haven't been able to do it all season. The

650
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: Texans on paper are a great run defense, but again,

651
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Speaker 4: part of the reason those edges are good is they're

652
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Speaker 4: both good run defenders as well. They have injuries on

653
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Speaker 4: the front. Jerry Hughes is injured too, who also, you know,

654
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Speaker 4: made that big play a couple of weeks ago to

655
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Speaker 4: help them get to this point. Like, on paper, they're

656
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Speaker 4: a good run defense, but both of these teams would

657
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Speaker 4: be desperate they would love to run the ball because

658
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: most of the Texans offense this year has kind of

659
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: been like c J. Stroud just makes some magic on

660
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: third down and it's tough to do. But it does

661
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: worry me Mark, and I'm leaning Browns. They're minus one

662
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: forty two in terms of the honey line. I'm leaning Browns.

663
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: And yet this one, to me is the biggest coin

664
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: flip of the week. And the thing that worries me

665
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 4: is like everyone's picking the Browns. Everyone is picking the

666
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: Browns as like eight. If you want one surprise team

667
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: that could make it all the way to the super Bowl.

668
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: It's the Browns. I haven't seen almost no one's picking

669
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: the Texans. Which whenever it's a close to a coin

670
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: flip game and no one's picking the Texans, I always

671
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: that worries me.

672
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: Of you and Claybon with your momentum madness, Why would

673
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: that affect the game?

674
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't, obviously, but it just.

675
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: Why Why does that matter?

676
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: But momentum is not real like totally, of course it

677
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: doesn't affect the game, but I think it's it's good

678
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: to point out, like the way I've heard this game

679
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: talked about, in the way people are picking it is

680
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: as if these two teams are totally uneven. Really they're

681
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: kind of well, they're kind of like at two and

682
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: a half point road favorite, like that seems fair, but

683
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: like a one point a pickup seems fair too. And

684
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: I think the Texans have have a chance here because

685
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: they have the better core. I think they absolutely have

686
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: a chance.

687
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 8: Like this is this is the team as a Brown supporter,

688
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 8: like this season, Like I don't want them to play

689
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 8: the Texans.

690
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: I don't want them to play cjson.

691
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: Do you want me to pick the Texans to the

692
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: bounce of scales for Greg, I showed it up for you,

693
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: all right, I mean if that us Whens twenty seven,

694
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: twenty for a great game, picket.

695
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: I've gone back and forth all week. I think I've

696
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: settled on the Browns just it makes too much sense.

697
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: But uh, I don't know. I don't I don't know

698
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: if I'm settling on it. Still don't have to pick

699
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: for game?

700
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: De you yet?

701
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.

702
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: Wait this this podcast superseds game.

703
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 4: Well, that's true, but that's like kind of be a

704
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: final answer. We're not keeping track of any scores here,

705
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: but I'm going Browns. I'm going Brown score. I think

706
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: it's a little lower scoring than people expect. Nineteen seventeen.

707
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 8: I will go Cleveland twenty eight, Texans twenty seven.

708
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: Very nice, always one point game with Mark, I don't

709
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: feel confident. Most importantly, where are you watching the game?

710
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: What will you be wearing?

711
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: TBD?

712
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 8: I haven't decided. I mean, I'd love that it's on Saturday.

713
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 8: If it were out is this? Are you going to

714
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 8: be in your domicile? Are you going to go out?

715
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: Like?

716
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: What?

717
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 10: Like?

718
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: Where? Well?

719
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 8: I still have to decide, but I think I'm I

720
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 8: maybe mix it up and do like first half somewhere

721
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 8: out and then second half of.

722
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: Home interesting, wow, very interesting.

723
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: And I do like that we've sort of we've gotten

724
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 4: past the drama of Brown's fandom and what we're.

725
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear. It's only because Joe fla.

726
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 8: Well, this experience is completely unexpected and it's a little

727
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 8: bit different, and you could I'm getting killed all the

728
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 8: time for saying that you can flip flopped on this

729
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 8: or that, and it's like what I did not like

730
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 8: about this team, I still very much do not like.

731
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: And let it be stated that Zzar always had a peg.

732
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: You were never gone, you were just a little bit

733
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: and hiding for a little bit.

734
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: Can't flush that.

735
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 8: It's a complex, can't flush that un a rewarding situation

736
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 8: to be put into.

737
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 4: Throw me back to that twenty twenty run, that appearance

738
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: because Chris jumped on the podcast. Yeah, when the Browns won,

739
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: and it was maybe the most one of the most

740
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 4: special moments we've had on this podcast. A lot has changed,

741
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: We've changed since then. Everything has changed, these teams have

742
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: changed the situation, but we do have Mark's heart back.

743
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: Nice uh And by the way, you could watch us

744
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: on fast channels across the world. Mark, you're wearing Brad

745
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: Paisley today, and I want to remind everyone that on

746
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Wednesday's show, Patrick Claybond, we put out a formal request

747
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: for a clay Bond theme song and the winner of

748
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: the Claybon Theme Song competition, or if we might have

749
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: multiple winners depending on how the songs are, you get

750
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: a signed Mark Sessler eight by ten glossy wearing Brad

751
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: Paisley with Levi over it, leaning against an oak tree,

752
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: looking rooting intense. Think Luke Perry at Camp Happiness.

753
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 8: I mean, if that, I'm not sure that's going to

754
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 8: motivate the the musicians out there to get going.

755
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: But you sure about that?

756
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: I just don't know, all right?

757
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: Also come back to me, And no disrespect to Noah Eagle,

758
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: Todd Blackledge and Catherine Tappan with the call. An absolute

759
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: disgrace that Al's not on this call. This should have

760
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: been Al's game. They benched him, gave it to Eagle

761
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: and black Ledge. Fine, weird, look weird, look yeah you

762
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: got you got even with Al.

763
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: Good job.

764
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: Everybody a joke, But I like no Eagle and Todd

765
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: Blake Al deserved this game.

766
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: We deserve.

767
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 4: I have no opinion on Todd Blackledge.

768
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: No Eagle is very good. I did I will say

769
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: that about Yes. No.

770
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: They did a game on Saturday a few weeks ago

771
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: and I was just like, whose voice is this? And

772
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 4: how many times are you going to retell the same

773
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 4: uh story about t J. Watt?

774
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: And now let's let's go.

775
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 8: Todd Blacklitch who squared off against the Jets back in

776
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 8: the playoffs in the eighties.

777
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that. But you are significantly older

778
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: than me, so I didn't. I'd say it's a historical note.

779
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: No Eagle, I believe is the son of Iron eg. Yes,

780
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: they sound exactly. They look alike, they sound alike. It's

781
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: it's weird how that works. An iron Eagle is an

782
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: absolute stud. All right, let's move on next game. Oh yeah,

783
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: oh this is impossible.

784
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's impossible.

785
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: First, Eric behind the Glass, give me a weather report

786
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: in Kansas City for the game between the Dolphins and

787
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.

788
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: This game is played Saturday, eight pm Eastern. Get back

789
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: to me with that.

790
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: But you have a Dolphins team obviously crushed by their

791
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: inability to close out the AFC East. They get picked

792
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: off by the Bills on Sunday Night Football, and now

793
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 2: they travel on the road instead of hosting the Bills

794
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: at home there on the road in Kansas City, which

795
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Greg would tell me, oh, lock it up, you got

796
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: to lock up the Chiefs here.

797
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: I know what is the weather?

798
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 11: Eric, So the weather is on track to be one

799
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 11: of the coldest games in NFL history, is what I'm

800
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 11: reading for both franchises.

801
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: A winchell of minus thirteen guys. Oh man, I saw

802
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 4: something that they said it might be up to minus thirty.

803
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: So all right, so I want to say, you're going

804
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: to send the Miami team there?

805
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: Give me a break? What a joke? Speaking of jokes,

806
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 3: lock up the Chiefs.

807
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs just don't deserve any trust at any level.

808
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: So is it to the point where the weather is

809
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: so bad that it goes from favoring the team that

810
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: plays in those conditions in their building to a complete

811
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: leveling of the field, because that is those are some raw,

812
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: bone cold this weather conditions.

813
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: It's like a legit legitimately dangerous, like how cold it

814
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: would be. It's like negative.

815
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 5: Twenty thirty degree, like stationary in a seat.

816
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: I don't love that, you don't. It's hard to know,

817
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: like how that affects the passing game. You would think

818
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: it impacts the passing game, especially.

819
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: You might not even get on the plane. I'd be like,

820
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: I'll see you back in Miami in July.

821
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 5: You know, Al Michaels is glad he's not going to

822
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 5: this game, at least.

823
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: Like during the during the game, I think the temperature

824
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: is probably like non win chill, supposed to be somewhere

825
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: under ten degrees, which it's going to be like that

826
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 4: Packers Giants game when Tom Coughlin's face almost a classic peeled.

827
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: Off seven NFC championship.

828
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: Yes, but when I think about, like the how these

829
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: two teams match up, and I think back to that

830
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 4: Germany game, which was really a defensive struggle for both.

831
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 4: You know, both defenses dominated in that game. Chiefs offense

832
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 4: had their best drive of the season to start the game,

833
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: I thought, and then did absolutely nothing in the rest

834
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: of the game. They had one nice long drive where

835
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 4: they really earned the Dollins only had fourteen points of foves,

836
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: so it was fourteen fourteen on offense, and then the

837
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: Chiefs got a defensive touchdown and neither team really looked

838
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: like the high flying team that we would expect. But

839
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: I think, like, well, what works in this cold you

840
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: would think would be the running game, which would be

841
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: the way to attack the Chiefs defense. And if I

842
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: have to trust in one of these two teams running games,

843
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 4: it's the Dolphins. Hopefully Raheem Moster's back, it sounds like

844
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 4: he will be. But the Chiefs have a huge split

845
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: in terms of their effectiveness versus the past one of

846
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: the best in the league, a heavy blitz team, versus

847
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: their effectiveness against the run sub mediocre like bottom five

848
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: to six and a lot of different run metrics. And

849
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: I think about, like, they've got all these injuries on

850
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: the offensive line two Miami, but they've looked good running

851
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: the ball all year, even last week the first half

852
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: of that game. Those outside runs with a chan and

853
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: then you can get some of the more inside power

854
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: with most are like as good as Cheko is. And

855
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: they can run the ball too, And I think that's

856
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: probably a good way to attack Miami. I don't mind

857
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: that for Miami, maybe taking a little bit of the

858
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: air out of the ball. The Chiefs offense is so

859
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: bad throwing the ball in good conditions, like, I don't

860
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 4: know if they're going to be able to do anything

861
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: in bad conditions. I almost trust the Dolphins a little

862
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 4: bit more offensively.

863
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 8: I really like that game plan eh Chan and Moster

864
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 8: if you get a healthy version of mostart and and

865
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 8: Mike McDaniel said that most are jail and Waddle and

866
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 8: a flock of other guys would likely be questionable for

867
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 8: this game.

868
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: So but it sounds like they're playing.

869
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 8: They'll play, and I guess, like for me, I feel like,

870
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 8: if if Rahemo starts in there, he's in there and

871
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 8: we're good, why not at least try that?

872
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: Why not run the ball thirty five forty times?

873
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: Might not have a choice. If weather it's that bad

874
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: as a p I mean, that's what I'm saying. It

875
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: could be. If it's wind and cold at that level

876
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 3: that changes.

877
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: Every It is also that weather for the Chiefs too.

878
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 8: I know there's this assumption that like because it's the

879
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 8: Miami Dolphins, like that they've all grown up since childhood

880
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 8: and like South Beach, like they're all all these people

881
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 8: are from all over the county and have played in

882
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 8: different college systems and stuff. So it's like I think

883
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 8: it's just an equalizer and like, I don't know, Tyreek

884
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 8: Hill played in Kansas City for years.

885
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like a big plays in cold weather.

886
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 8: And I think it's a fascinating matchup because like no

887
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 8: team knows Tyreek Hill better too, and so it's like

888
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 8: what like what like Tyreek Hill has been the absolute

889
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 8: separator and he's you know, his since he's been hurt,

890
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 8: his production's been down, and the defense is so banged up.

891
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 5: They've given up like seventy seven points or something in.

892
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: The last two weeks.

893
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 8: It's like, I'm fairly concerned about Miami's defense in general,

894
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 8: but I don't know if I am against this Chiefs

895
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 8: offense because they've been as plotting and like anti watchable

896
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 8: as can be for weeks on end all season long.

897
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: I think this is the game where you know who

898
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: I do trust that will be able to make some throws.

899
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: Not at the level of you know, peak because of

900
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: the conditions and the fact that the offense is down,

901
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: but I know Mahomes is going to make some plays

902
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: in this game. And I think even despite a down

903
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: year where he didn't even clear a thousand yards, Travis

904
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: Kelcey has made big type plays in January and cold conditions.

905
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: We just need a couple I think big plays from

906
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: those two guys. It's time with pacego giving them a

907
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: nice day on the ground and Kelsey and the red

908
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: zone making a play or two, and I think that's

909
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: what's gonna take for the bill. I'm gonna lock up

910
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: the Chiefs here. I don't feel overly confident about it.

911
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: But I don't feel overly confident about any team this week,

912
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: which is why it's such a fun for wild Card weekend.

913
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: I just don't imagine from what I've seen from Tua

914
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: that this season ends with him delivering a big performance

915
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: on the road against a very good Chiefs defense in

916
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: terrible conditions, with his offensive skill players banged up. I

917
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: think it's going to be potentially a reckoning for Tua

918
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: after this game where people are asking big questions. And

919
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: that's why I like the Chiefs in like a you know,

920
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: sixteen to seven type game.

921
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 8: I am one game behind you in the locks competition.

922
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 8: I'm in last place, so it's like, why not just

923
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 8: start throwing Hell, you're.

924
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: Only one back with Ford No, no, no, no, the one

925
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: you want.

926
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 8: So like, what's the most exciting way to approach the

927
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 8: Locks this weekend.

928
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: If you're in last place.

929
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: If I blow this, not only will Dolphins fans be

930
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: giving me crow right, you and I will be tied.

931
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: We will be tied weeks to play. And that sounds fun.

932
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 8: And I also think it's like I'm I'm down on

933
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 8: the Dolphins, you know.

934
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: But that said, the weather aspect to this, Hey, it's just.

935
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: Every level tua meltdown mode on the road in sub

936
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: seventy degree whether minus seventy weather, you gotta do it.

937
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 8: But this is like, so we're saying everyone thinks the

938
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 8: Browns are gonna win, Like, I think it's just across

939
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 8: the board people have written off Miami. Yeah, and and

940
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 8: because of the conditions, because it's in Kansas City, Like

941
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 8: it's just this assumption that Miami is going to go

942
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 8: in and lay a giant egg and then I'm gonna

943
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 8: lock up the Dolphins right now, that's a lot.

944
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: I'm not switching out of it.

945
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: Give me those fish, put them on ice.

946
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: How about a little Jalen Ramsey on Travis Kelcey. You

947
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: shut down the one Ramsey on Kelsey. Interesting. I think

948
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 4: that's what the matchup that you'll see, So you can

949
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: shut down the one decent player they had. I wouldn't

950
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: watch that first game. They had a little bit too

951
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 4: just and I was thinking it sounds crazy, but I

952
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: actually think they need to break Cadarius Tony out of

953
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: ice here. They have just no explosive ability at all.

954
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: You just got to take your chances. You have no

955
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: chance going the way you're going in the playoffs. Right,

956
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 4: he's a little injured, and Donovan Smith might be back

957
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: to their left tackle for the Chiefs. You know, Dolphins

958
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: fans will point out, what are you gonna mention, We're

959
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: the most injured defense in the world, like that is

960
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: absolutely fair to point out Van Gingkle's that coming back, Chubb, Jals, Phillips,

961
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: They're all we have talked, right, They're all not coming back.

962
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: So that like the Chiefs in a real in a

963
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: normal world, would be able to take advantage. Uh, Javon Holland,

964
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: who's their great safety, has been out of practice. Zavian

965
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 4: Howard is expected to miss this game. Jerome Baker, I

966
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 4: believe they're they're starting linebackers expected to miss this game.

967
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: I mean, they have backups everywhere on defense, so they

968
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: are really asking a lot out of Vic fanjo in

969
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 4: that scheme.

970
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 5: It's a tough spot for you, Mark Old, I don't care.

971
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 4: It just reminded me though that if you go back

972
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: that seems so long ago that Germany game, the Chiefs

973
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 4: offense has stunk since then they have been bad since

974
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 4: The Dolphins are the pick and before I'm taking the

975
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: Chiefs to win this game. By the way, their minus

976
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 4: one or two twenty five the sixteen and.

977
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 2: Two guys behind me too, Mark, if I'm not locking

978
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: them up this I was thinking about it, but now

979
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 2: that you guys are doing.

980
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: This, forget. If this goes my way, yeah, you're in

981
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble.

982
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 5: It will be the worst I've ever performed this.

983
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: I believe that you guaranteed you would not finish in

984
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: last this year. A few weeks back and you would

985
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: be you'd be two down.

986
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: It means you shouldn't do this pick, you know. But

987
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: that's yeah, But.

988
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 8: It's gonna look all the more rageous and heroic Dolphins

989
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 8: surprise Kansas City. I have an immense amount of respect

990
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 8: for you. Okay, well that matters to me too.

991
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 4: I want to see too. Uh Now I'm now I'm

992
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: rooting for the dogs. He's not get on the plane

993
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 4: does to prove you wrong. He's very you know, he's

994
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: great against the blitz and they blitz a lot.

995
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe remember when like C. J.

996
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Mosley and others, they're like, it's Covid like I'm out,

997
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: I'm opting out.

998
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: I'll see you next year.

999
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: They're gonna be getting on the plane and Tua is

1000
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: gonna be sitting in the locker room. It's gonna be

1001
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: just like in his chair and guy, come on, man,

1002
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: nah man, I'll see you in July. They'd be like,

1003
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: that's your choice. Who's the backup of the Dolphins? Mike

1004
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: White actually makes me nervous.

1005
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: One little footnote.

1006
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 8: I can't wait to see, like what Mike McDaniel is

1007
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 8: wearing in this weather, because.

1008
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna want to wear something swaggy red.

1009
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: I know Reid's gonna be in a big puff. What's

1010
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: he gonna wear and he read's gonna be like a monster,

1011
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: like a literal red monster. And then you're gonna go

1012
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: over to McDaniels, who's gonna be like, you nailed it

1013
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: in a very tough spot because he wants to be swaggy.

1014
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: He wants his calf out.

1015
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 11: Remember, remember last year, he was walking around the practice

1016
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 11: facility in Miami's turning on the A C saying he

1017
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 11: wants to be colder.

1018
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 10: I don't.

1019
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna be all right, I walk

1020
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: up the Dolphins. I don't think he's gonna be doing

1021
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 4: like he did. There's some stat they've lost ten straight

1022
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: under four forty degrees game, so this is well well

1023
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: under forty and.

1024
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: Dolphins vans will say it again.

1025
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: If I am wrong here, I will offer a detailed

1026
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: mia culpa on Sunday. That's my promise to you. But

1027
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: you better hope I'm wrong. All right, let's move on.

1028
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: This is the other game that I was thinking about.

1029
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are gonna be on this.

1030
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: When trying to figure out what is the quote unquote

1031
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: lock of the week the Pittsburgh Steelers, winners of three

1032
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 2: straight down the stretch to clinch a playoff, Berth travel

1033
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: to Buffalo to meet the Bills.

1034
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 3: Oh those bills? Can you put? Can you figure out

1035
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: what is going on with the Bills?

1036
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know the desert, and the people that drive

1037
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: the numbers with the desert say, oh, this is gonna

1038
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: be a route.

1039
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: They got the.

1040
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: Bills by double digits, favored by ten in this game,

1041
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: it's the Nance Romo Woolson joint.

1042
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 3: Greggy and.

1043
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: The Bill obviously, with that win on Sunday night, went

1044
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: from waking up Sunday, are we even gonna make the playoffs?

1045
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 2: To the number two seeds? So they're set up well

1046
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: right here in their building. I don't like the weather

1047
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm hearing at a western New York as well. Eric

1048
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: gets to me on that the heat lamps are gonna

1049
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: be on in the lows, which I do not like.

1050
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: It does not suit the people of that region, and

1051
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: I feel like it has a residual effect upon.

1052
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 11: Twenty five degrees guys, with the seventy percent chance of precipitation.

1053
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 5: And also in wet and high and like very wind.

1054
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if it's twenty five, it's gonna snow, right,

1055
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: Is that.

1056
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 4: How it works? Well, they're saying, they're saying nine plus

1057
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: inches or maybe a lot of snow, but it would

1058
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: have come before the game. Who knows we have.

1059
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: I think I'm looking at a lot of overseas listeners.

1060
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: I don't think they use the fahrenheit, but no, they

1061
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: don't under thirty two.

1062
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 3: If the precipitations coming down. It ain't gonna be wet.

1063
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 4: Twenty five degrees in a tropical rate, noo is literally wet.

1064
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 3: Just saying, but win too, it's not gonna be wet.

1065
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: Why snow. I'm just saying it's probably gonna snow, right.

1066
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: Yes, uh, that would be great. All right.

1067
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: Imagine, let's talk to me, let's talk Raggie.

1068
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: What do we got on this one? Do you give

1069
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: the Steelers a fighting chance here?

1070
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: Well, that weather makes me think ten points is too much.

1071
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: That the wins could be twenty thirty forty miles an hour.

1072
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 4: That makes it too much because who's the better running

1073
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: team here? That The Bills have done a good job

1074
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 4: of late getting their running game going, But the Steelers

1075
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: have bunch have had a nice identity on offense ever

1076
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 4: since they they brought their first round pick into the lineup.

1077
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: And he, you know, the right tackle and he's just

1078
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 4: a big mauler and that's kind of who they've become.

1079
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 4: Last week was a naj Harris game, and I think

1080
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: you'll see some of that. But I also think you

1081
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: know you saw it last week against Dolphins, Jalen Warren

1082
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: getting to the outside of this Bills defense, and in

1083
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 4: bad weather, that's what they're gonna try to do. They

1084
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: don't have TJ. Watt. They're gonna try to you know,

1085
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: shorten the game and avoid you know, turnovers. And Sean

1086
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 4: McDermott is as wild the defensive coordinator right now as

1087
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: any in the league. Is creative every week. It's he's

1088
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 4: got these designer blitzes and you know, mixing their coverages

1089
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: and changing things after this that maybe more than any

1090
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: team in the NFL and very different than they used

1091
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 4: to be. The Bills, Like McDermott's done a great job.

1092
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: But the one way you kind of avoid all that

1093
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: is like if we can just hand the ball off

1094
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: and we can run And not to just sound like

1095
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: the simplistic, basic football guy, but that's what I think

1096
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin has got to think about it, that actually

1097
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: weaving our defense can can maybe force a couple of

1098
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: mistakes here and keep this thing close into the fourth court.

1099
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's like Pittsburgh's mission, hang around.

1100
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: Hang around.

1101
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 5: Buffalo has blown four fourth quarter leads this season. If

1102
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 5: you can if.

1103
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 8: The weather is chaotic and it reduces like explosive plays.

1104
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: For Buffalo, get them a little tight at the end.

1105
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: I think so too. You get into Buffalo's head. I

1106
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 4: like that. I think the TJ.

1107
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 8: Watt though absence, Uh, you know, there are certain players

1108
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 8: like this, like TJ.

1109
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 5: Watt's absence is immense.

1110
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 8: We're talking about stripping a defense of nineteen sacks, thirty

1111
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 8: six quarterback hits, and someone that could make life very

1112
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 8: dangerous for Josh Allen and someone who seems to always

1113
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 8: have a magic spell near the end of close games.

1114
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 8: So you're leaning a lot on Alex Highsmith, who's having

1115
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 8: a career year. Marcus Golden's gonna have to step up.

1116
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 8: Guys like Nick Herbig, Like You're gonna need to get

1117
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 8: pass rush. You're gonna need to be able to like

1118
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 8: contain that James Cook in the ground game too. I mean,

1119
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 8: I think like Buffalo when they get hot on the ground,

1120
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 8: Like James Cook has been a big difference maker outside

1121
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 8: of the drops, which have been a problem. But I

1122
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 8: see a game right now like then in this weather

1123
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 8: that is low scoring. I think, like, I don't know

1124
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 8: if the spread changes because of what the weather situation is,

1125
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 8: but ten feels a little rich.

1126
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: The over under is down to thirty five, which means

1127
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: like they're projecting a twenty five to fifteen score, like

1128
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: it's hard to win. I don't know that.

1129
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if someone's scoring twenty five points in

1130
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 5: this but you never.

1131
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: Know so And this is important to keep in mind too,

1132
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: because it was a nice finished by the Steelers, but

1133
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: they beat the Ravens backups in the rain in Week eighteen,

1134
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: and when you look at their greater season, verst on

1135
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph as the quarterback of this team been good.

1136
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: With all due respect, it's you know, they had a

1137
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: minus twenty point differential in twenty twenty three that is

1138
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: obviously the worst among all playoffs. All playoff teams, there

1139
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: are four teams This is from the research team to

1140
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: make the playoffs of the minus twenty point differential or

1141
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: worse since twenty eighteen, which seems a little high. By

1142
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: the way, all three of those teams lost in the

1143
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: wild card round, including the Steelers in twenty one. And

1144
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily mean this team will go down to

1145
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: but I do think this team has a defined ceiling

1146
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: and I think the only thing that saves them, honestly

1147
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: is the Bills doing what the Bills have done this year.

1148
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: Shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly. But if they play

1149
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: a smart kind of discipline brand of Bills football, I

1150
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: don't think this game is close. I think they do

1151
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: cover the spread, and I think they find a way

1152
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: to put points on the board.

1153
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: So I feel pretty good about the Bills.

1154
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 8: The only thing though, like I get the minus twenties

1155
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 8: scoring differential and a lot of that. You know, the

1156
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 8: tracks through a lot of bad offense for Pittsburgh, Like

1157
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 8: they've been a different offense passing wise with Rudolph.

1158
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 5: I don't know how that.

1159
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: Transits is Matt Canada, even if you're throwing the Trubisky numbers.

1160
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 4: I think their offense is top ten success rate since

1161
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 4: getting rid of Canada because they've had a good running

1162
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: game there. We always say, well, yeah, Mike Tomlin, great coach,

1163
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: Like he's a defensive coach. Cany gummy it up. You've

1164
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 4: got Joey Porter, Like they've changed their team since they

1165
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 4: started playing Joey Porter junior at as a starter. It's

1166
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: kind of crazy they weren't for so long because now

1167
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: now he's not only a starter, he travels and there's

1168
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 4: very few quarterbacks that do this with the opposing team's

1169
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 4: best receiver the whole game, So him versus Diggs, how

1170
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: physical that will be? Like, that's fun. They have another rookie,

1171
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 4: Kanu Betten who's been really good inside. Can he he

1172
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 4: gets some pressure up the middle? You got herbig you

1173
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: mentioned will probably replace TJ. Whitte, So they have some

1174
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 4: young players. They're also possibly getting their two starting safeties back.

1175
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: I mean that seems like it's a big deal. Minka

1176
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: fitz Patrick is practicing. Demonta key Z remember was suspended

1177
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 4: for that hit against Michael Pittman. He is back for

1178
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 4: this game. And they're important because the Bills love throwing

1179
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 4: to their tight ends and their running backs and that

1180
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 4: those are the types of players that you have on them.

1181
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: So to me, I think it's just like it's all

1182
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 4: Josh Allen. If Josh Allen is ready to just go

1183
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 4: on a magical tour like it's twenty one, then he's

1184
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 4: gotta be fine. But if he's doing some crazy stuff

1185
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: like last week, he won't be. And I just like

1186
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 4: that he runs so much more at the end of

1187
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 4: the season.

1188
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 9: He did.

1189
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 4: Remember he did this as a rookie. It changed their

1190
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 4: mind about who he was. He did this in twenty

1191
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: one and then the last two weeks are the highest

1192
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 4: he's run in terms of rushing attempts all season. That's

1193
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: not by mistake. It's like end of the year, it's

1194
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: go time, and that's what I want to see out of.

1195
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 8: I think Fitzpatrick makes a big difference for Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh

1196
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 8: leads the league in red zone takeaways. The Bills get

1197
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 8: a little funky in the red zone sometimes. But I

1198
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 8: would ask you this, when is the last playoff game

1199
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 8: we've ever seen between two teams that both fire their

1200
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 8: offensive coordinators mid season.

1201
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: That is a rarity.

1202
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: Let us the.

1203
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty seven Redskins against the Bronco There you go, unbelievable.

1204
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: To see both those teams thrive that way?

1205
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: All right? Lines minus four eighty five by the way,

1206
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 4: getting that in there, and yes, this would be the

1207
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 4: obvious lock. It seems unsporting, but this would be right gutless.

1208
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: All right, let's uh keep moving. Uh.

1209
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: This is my favorite game of the week, the one

1210
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: that I'm most excited for.

1211
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: And to circle back because I even though I.

1212
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: Do like Stroud a lot, the Texans never really grabbed

1213
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: me this year. Don't really love the AFC South In

1214
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 2: Houston's backstory. I wish the Packers in retrospect he spoke

1215
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: about more as a team of atn.

1216
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: But we almost sked them at one.

1217
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: Yes, because that this is a team that fascinates me

1218
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: with a young on the rise quarterback in the post

1219
00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: Rogers era, going to Dallas, where man, it is all

1220
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: all the pressure is on the Cowboys in this game.

1221
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: This is a game that's going to be played at

1222
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: four point thirty PM Sunday. And I think about the

1223
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: two thousand World Series was Mets versus Yankees, and there

1224
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: was so much pressure on the Yankees.

1225
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: They had to win. They could not lose.

1226
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: George Steinberger was gonna fire everybody if they lost to

1227
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: the Mets. So when they finally won, all those players

1228
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: are like, it was just that. We weren't even excited,

1229
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: were just relieved that it was over. That's how you

1230
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: That's how I see the Cowboys this week, like we

1231
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: have to win this game. Like if we don't win

1232
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: this game, we could we could get fired, we could

1233
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: lose our jobs. Like let's listen to Jerry Jones, the

1234
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: owner of the Cowboys, after a huge Cowboys season as

1235
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: Division champion, talking about his head coach Mike McCarthy and

1236
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: where he stands about his future.

1237
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 9: Coach McCarthy's under contract for next year and so that's

1238
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 9: not an issue. Secondly, I couldn't be more with what

1239
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 9: he's done and how he's coached now. Apart from sitting

1240
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 9: down and going over the daily receipts and going over

1241
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 9: the detail of everything we do out there, I don't

1242
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 9: know how you can answer a question any different to that.

1243
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 9: I certainly haven't sat down to here right in the

1244
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 9: middle of the playoffs and started talking to him about

1245
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 9: something like a contract or something like that. Why would

1246
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 9: you do that?

1247
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: So here's what I think. That's that's Shannon r. J

1248
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: on one O five to three fan. This is what

1249
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: I think, Greg. I think Zaddy, Oh, Zaddy is out

1250
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: if they lose this game. I think Zaddy's out. If

1251
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: they win this game and get blown out next week,

1252
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: I think they either have to make the NFC title

1253
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: game or at least have a good fight in the

1254
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: division round loss. But if they lose this game, after

1255
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: everything they've been through, after all the hype around this team,

1256
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: after stealing the division from Philly, I just I'm just

1257
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: I guess I'm making the point in a very long

1258
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: winding way, that there has to be some tightness around

1259
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: this team potentially going into this game, and the fact

1260
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: that they're playing a very good, on the rise Green

1261
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: Bay team doesn't take it any easier.

1262
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: Not at all. Like that quote we just heard from

1263
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones was him trying to walk back these comments

1264
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 4: he had made. I think it was over the weekend

1265
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: before their week E team game where he's like, well,

1266
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: we'll see how each game goes with someone and he's

1267
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 4: like and then afterwards he's like, Oh, I'm surprised that

1268
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: became such a big deal. It's like, I thought everyone knew.

1269
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 4: I like firing guys based on one game sample size it.

1270
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: I think it doesn't make sense because they've proven that

1271
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 4: they can win consistently under Mike McCarthy and they never

1272
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: were able to do that before in the entire Jerry

1273
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 4: Jones era, since Jerry Johnson, Jimmy Johnson, and like that

1274
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: deserves some credit. That said seven and a half point

1275
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 4: favorites here, you know, minus three sixty. If they lost,

1276
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: it would feel terrible, and it would feel especially terrible

1277
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 4: against a Green Bay Packers team that's sort of everything

1278
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys aren't right now, which is a surprise

1279
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 4: and incredibly young and no expectations. And I think the

1280
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 4: Cowboys defense and Dan Quinn is out there as a

1281
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: possible head coach in a lot of places, including Seattle.

1282
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 4: Like they've been giving up a lot of yards in

1283
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: the second half of this season, and Jordan Love, to me,

1284
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: has shown in the second half of this season he

1285
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: can beat you no matter how you attack him. Like,

1286
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 4: if you want to play it safe, he'll take what

1287
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 4: you give him. If you're too aggressive, he'll hurt you deep.

1288
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1289
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 8: I mean we talked about it last week that since

1290
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 8: Week eight, you're looking at a quarterback with an eighteen

1291
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 8: to one touchdown to interception ratio. I mean, he's been pristine,

1292
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 8: Jordan Love, and he's growing weekly. What I also really

1293
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 8: love about this offense right now is that the return

1294
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 8: of Aaron Jones and who Aaron Jones is right now

1295
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 8: for them.

1296
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 4: Has been huge.

1297
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 8: He has led the league in rushing since Week sixteen

1298
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 8: and the Cowboys, and we saw this against the Bills,

1299
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 8: We've seen in other spots. Week fifteen, they're allowing one

1300
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 8: hundred and sixty point seven yards rushing per game, So

1301
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 8: you can run on them, and as dangerous as Micah

1302
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 8: Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence are and the potential of wreaking

1303
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 8: havoc on Jordan Love. There are ways to attack this defense,

1304
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 8: and we've seen it tangibly over a number of weeks.

1305
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 8: I mean, I think the question comes down to beyond

1306
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 8: like Rashaun Gary, like the Joe Berry defense for green

1307
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 8: Bay has been better the last couple of weeks, but

1308
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 8: that's against the Vikings.

1309
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 4: They played the Bears.

1310
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 8: How do you there's another world where the Cowboys just

1311
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 8: simply explode and terrorise this defense.

1312
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: That's what I'm curious, because I think this game can

1313
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: go one of two ways. The Cowboys score in their

1314
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: first three possessions and they're off and running, and green

1315
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: Bay is left after the season frustrated that Barry once

1316
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: again has let them down and they have big changes

1317
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: to make on side of that ball. But the other

1318
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: side is what I said that there's maybe a little

1319
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: tightness with the Cowboys and you're playing a Packers team.

1320
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: This is a bad combination. A young, fast rising green

1321
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: Bay quarterback on a team playing with house money. I

1322
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: don't like the matchup for the Cowboys, and I think

1323
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: I'll pick the Cowboys just because the talent difference is substantial.

1324
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: They are a more balanced team, and I have a

1325
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: lot of respect for the bounce back year that Dak

1326
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: has had and how amazing Cede Lamba has been and

1327
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: Ferguson's a playmaker, and Hollard maybe finding his way here

1328
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. We'll see Brandon Cook stepping up in

1329
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: recent weeks and becoming a real guy again. So I'm

1330
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: picking the Cowboys, but I would not be shocked at

1331
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: all if this is what we're talking at leading our

1332
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: precap on Sunday, the Cowboys getting picked up right.

1333
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 4: The Packers plus seven and a half is my I

1334
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 4: think my favorite I'm not gonna go rain makeer an it,

1335
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 4: but my favorite line of the week, just that this

1336
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 4: comes down to the end. Seven and a half feels

1337
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 4: too much. The Cowboys are the minus three sixty in

1338
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: terms of the money line, because maybe I'm falling for

1339
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 4: the banana and the tailpipe, but the Packers defense has

1340
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 4: shown something in the last few weeks. And then you're

1341
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: you're reminded, oh, yeah, these plays are good, Like they

1342
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 4: should be better. I know they're not well coached, but

1343
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: like they dominated the Bears because Wyatt and Rashaun Gary

1344
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 4: and Kenny Clark were all winning and not many defensive

1345
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 4: lines have won against this Cowboys offensive line, and they

1346
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 4: probably won't, but that gives them a chance. And I

1347
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 4: expect at this point Jordan Love to score points. I

1348
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 4: expect this to be a really high scoring game. He

1349
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 4: is the number one ranked PFF passer since Week eleven.

1350
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: He is number one in the NFL in terms of

1351
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 4: big time throws since then, and when I watch MA,

1352
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 4: I just can't believe he's this good because it's it's everything.

1353
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 4: It's the brains. I think he's got good eyes of

1354
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: where he looks and goes through his reads. It's the

1355
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: decision making in terms of sometimes he's aggressive, sometimes he's not.

1356
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 4: And it's obviously the the ability, and it's the surrounding

1357
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 4: to Dontavian Wicks. We've reached now the playoffs, and I

1358
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: don't think this is even a hot take. Christian Watson

1359
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 4: is to me their third best receiver moving forward. He's

1360
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 4: obviously the third or fourth.

1361
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 5: Right now and he's been unavailable.

1362
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 4: But like Dantavian Wicks is a real dude, Like he's

1363
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 4: done enough to me where he is a quality starting

1364
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 4: receiver in the NFL.

1365
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 3: Jaden Reed is a real dude.

1366
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 4: Whichever tight end is in there, Muskrave or Croft are great.

1367
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: And it's kind of crazy that they did this all

1368
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: in one year. Guta Kunz should be winning these Executive

1369
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: of the Year awards. I think get a little pop

1370
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 4: for it. Staying with Jordan Love all these years, even

1371
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 4: the contract they give and then this class is just

1372
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 4: it's crazy. I expect them to put up like twenty

1373
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: five thirty points and this just just be awesome. I

1374
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: like the Cowboys to win, but I love it will

1375
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 4: be thirty one. Yeah, exactly, something like that. It reminds

1376
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 4: me of that game I went to back in the day,

1377
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: Dak's rookie year, Aaron Rodgers versus Dak winning on the road.

1378
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: I think that was thirty five thirty one with Rogers

1379
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: with one of his classic You're finishes.

1380
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: No, Aaron Rodgers is the media conspiracist. He's he's not

1381
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: an actual player.

1382
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: He was great back then, Richard Rodgers. I remember the

1383
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 4: sideline he was running on the sideline that was I

1384
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 4: was remember the East that sent me the games.

1385
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 5: I don't I kind of I kind of liked it

1386
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 5: this game.

1387
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 12: And Rogers on TV is a lie.

1388
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 4: I know it's about what he says on TV.

1389
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 8: Okay, he like I guess in theory, if you're a

1390
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 8: Packers fan, you'd want to have to have a team

1391
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 8: come into green Bay and play in terrible weather and stuff.

1392
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 8: But for the way that this offense is, I kind

1393
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 8: of like green Bay going to Dallas and putting up

1394
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 8: a ton of points. Their fourth the four highest point

1395
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 8: totals this year of all come on the road. But

1396
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 8: I mean, you can't ignore like what Dallas has been

1397
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 8: at home, and I I I don't really share your suspicion, Dan,

1398
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,479
Speaker 8: the Dallas is gonna stumble here. I think next week

1399
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 8: that's very much a possibility and probability. I I they've

1400
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 8: had three hundred and seventy seven yards at least in

1401
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 8: every home game.

1402
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 5: They've blown people's doors off at home.

1403
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 8: Uh, they have outscored their opponents by one hundred and

1404
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 8: seventy two points at home. I think it's gonna be

1405
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 8: high scoring. I think there's gonna be it's gonna go

1406
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 8: right down to the end. But I got Dallas winning

1407
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 8: it in overtime.

1408
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 4: Ah, you got it in overtime. They're literally tied at

1409
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: the end of regulation, So you're you're kind of agreen,

1410
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: you just.

1411
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, But I just I think, like I don't I

1412
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 8: think that the next level is Dallas, Like Dallas falls

1413
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 8: apart and look and Mike McCarthy's fired the next one.

1414
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 8: I don't flur like, yeah, crushes and picking on those

1415
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 8: I don't see that happening.

1416
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: It's already again that you're hearing the whispers. Dan Quinn's

1417
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: going to be the head coach if he loses this game.

1418
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: Zaddy's out, So Zaddy.

1419
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 8: I one question, do you think that if you're Jerry Jones,

1420
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 8: because you did this with Parcels, is there a little

1421
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 8: bug in the mind of like, oh, if I get

1422
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 8: rid of Zaddy, Bill Belichick coming to coach the Cowboys

1423
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 8: a set to go roster, you don't have to worry

1424
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 8: about the GM thing because I kind of end the GM.

1425
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 8: I can work with Bill. I respect Bill, I respect

1426
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 8: Bill Parcells Tree, I.

1427
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: Respect that you're going down this road. Uh, the idea

1428
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: of Jerah and Bill working together, I guess jerro worked

1429
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: with Parcels.

1430
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 8: And Bill Bill, but Bill isn't. Yeah, but Bill Parcells

1431
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 8: was paying off his divorced. He did that, so he

1432
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 8: did also Bill, No, I'm saying Jerry Jones didn't like it.

1433
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 5: He clear he was not that. He also didn't want

1434
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 5: to be a Bill.

1435
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: Also, I could see Belichick being like, I want to

1436
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: go to Dallas to do what Parcels failed to do,

1437
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: win a win a chip, go.

1438
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 5: Back to the NFC where you can face face off

1439
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 5: against the Giants.

1440
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 4: You're gonna go.

1441
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: Carolina poopoo this. I'm gonna indulge on this one. I

1442
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 3: like it.

1443
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 5: It's like it's like NFL.

1444
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 8: It's like the NFL dream scenario always and Bill Belichick.

1445
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: It would be great, I think for for Bill Belichick.

1446
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 4: I just don't think Jerry Jones would would want I

1447
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 4: don't think Bill would want to work for Jerry Jones

1448
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: like I did.

1449
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: None of it, all right? That, Oh well, the Zoo.

1450
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, before we get too far away.

1451
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 3: Just the game up.

1452
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 12: Now.

1453
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 4: By the way, what do you mean the Zoo is

1454
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 4: four games back? Let's throw off those standings again. You

1455
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 4: we saw you know, concerned that I know, but that

1456
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 4: the listener would not know. Five games back. We don't

1457
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 4: need to look at we're showing this lock standing.

1458
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: All right, Greg, the floor is yours going.

1459
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 4: I'm just saying the listeners probably wouldn't wouldn't know he's watched.

1460
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: I almost completed the sentence, but not quite.

1461
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: Eleven and seven for the Westbros, ten and eight for Dan,

1462
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 4: and nine and nine.

1463
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: I have one game back of second place, which matters

1464
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 2: a lot to me. The actual standings are sixteen and

1465
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: two for Rosenthal, he's clinched everything West eleven and seven,

1466
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 2: Ozer ten and eight and Mark nine and nine with

1467
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: a huge lock off to.

1468
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 8: By the way, it's not it's it's not easy to

1469
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 8: come in last, and I don't buy that. Don't mean

1470
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 8: that it's unfortunate or it feels bad. It takes skill

1471
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 8: to lose as many of these as I'm losing. From

1472
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 8: another point of view, sure, I know Greg doesn't agree.

1473
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 4: With that, but it's I you're not. I see what

1474
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: you're saying, because you're not trying to lose. If you

1475
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 4: were trying to lose, I think that would be easy.

1476
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 3: I would say it's almost well true. It's equally as.

1477
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: Difficult, I think, to your point to go sixteen and

1478
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: two as it is to go like eight and ten

1479
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: or eight and eleven.

1480
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 4: Equal skill set.

1481
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, like in terms of reg and I are have

1482
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 8: showed an equal amount of skill this season.

1483
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: All right, the zoo, what do we got like in

1484
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: terms of likelihood? It's right, that's all I'm saying that.

1485
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go, guys, this is the zoo.

1486
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 4: There.

1487
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,520
Speaker 12: Good afternoon, gentlemen from Cincinnati.

1488
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 3: What is happening?

1489
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 12: This is what the common men have to do.

1490
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 13: We have to take time out from our busy schedule

1491
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 13: do a video shoot back by the dumpsters. We're not

1492
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 13: in our Armani suits that are paid for by the NFL.

1493
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 13: That's from Taylor. This is real men work.

1494
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 2: The real men this week are gonna be sitting at

1495
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,440
Speaker 2: a dumpsters.

1496
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 13: The Packers have had a good run, but it's gonna

1497
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 13: come to an end. Love Jordan Love, but he doesn't

1498
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 13: have enough to match the firepower of the Dallas Cowboys.

1499
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 12: I really wanted to.

1500
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 13: Take Tampa Bay, but I didn't have the guts in

1501
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 13: the end, So we're gonna go with the easy pick,

1502
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 13: Dallas Cowboys.

1503
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 12: Lock it up. By the way, why are we playing

1504
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 12: for second?

1505
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 2: I think taking the idea of common man uh to

1506
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: the extreme now by just sitting in a dumpster. That

1507
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: what a common man is I don't know a man

1508
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 2: that sits in a dumpster in an alley.

1509
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 8: Like a welder's apron on or something. I don't know

1510
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 8: if I guess that's I'm not sure what his what

1511
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 8: his day job is. He Yeah, he hit us up

1512
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,520
Speaker 8: on he runs a restaurant. Well, so it looks like a.

1513
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 3: A I thought he was gonna pull the metal like

1514
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: face mask down.

1515
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 8: He attacked us on text about a week ago about

1516
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 8: the nature of our common man's standings. And I have

1517
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 8: to say I don't really disagree with some of his

1518
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 8: major points.

1519
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 3: He's got some very strong takes about common men. And

1520
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: I think.

1521
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: He put I think West right in the middle of

1522
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 2: the Westling pack, and he put himself at the top.

1523
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 3: I believe did he put himself at the top.

1524
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 8: Well, he allowed his brothers to chime in with some

1525
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 8: rankings too, but and then they just started sniping.

1526
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 4: He put you at the bottom that I remember of

1527
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: what his common man rankings. That was what he said

1528
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 4: in terms of who in terms of his rankings with

1529
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 4: you guys, that's what guys with the jewelsy, he said.

1530
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 4: Wes Wes Long said that too.

1531
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 8: I didn't walk around like saying I think also Wes Long.

1532
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 3: Said that what are you talking about?

1533
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 4: You even responded to that text? You said, Well, you

1534
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 4: must have been joking. Wes Long said that that's what

1535
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 4: he said. That was I'm just quoting that the text

1536
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 4: you were you responded to, that's all, but don't you

1537
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 4: And he was trying to get you going and and

1538
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,839
Speaker 4: it worked apparently.

1539
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 8: I think he was trying to need But like everyone

1540
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 8: has a different like pov on what like, no one

1541
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 8: was agreen what a common man is. So it's just

1542
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 8: like you're gonna you were, You're atop your own rankings,

1543
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 8: each of us individually, because you fulfilled I.

1544
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: Only saw Wes is my only competition as a common

1545
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: man in this world.

1546
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 4: Well, that's finally right.

1547
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 8: That doesn't mean we have to agree to that.

1548
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: That was where I came down on it. And the

1549
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 2: Westling brothers they existed in their own realm in the

1550
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: western side of Cincinnati, which I mean the man was

1551
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 2: just sitting in a dumpster.

1552
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 4: I think there.

1553
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 8: I think they fulfill many of the boxes to be

1554
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,480
Speaker 8: checked in the common man rankings.

1555
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, I totally agree with that.

1556
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and when we get

1557
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: back we'll hit the rest of the games and a

1558
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: couple other items and then we're out of here.

1559
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 3: All right, Welcome back.

1560
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,480
Speaker 2: It is time for the Game of the Week presented

1561
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: by Draft Kings. We are going through the wild card

1562
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: weekend and this is a banger, indeed worthy of Game

1563
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: of the Week.

1564
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,440
Speaker 3: Rams at Lions.

1565
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: It is the first ever home playoff game at Ford Field,

1566
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 2: uh and the Lions are given three point three points

1567
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: to the Rams. And I think everybody knows it by now.

1568
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: It's is the Tarrico Collinsworth game. By the way, everyone

1569
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: knows the The overall big narrative points here that it's

1570
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford of the Rams playing against the team that

1571
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: once drafted him first overall, and it is Jared Goff

1572
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: playing against the Rams, the team that once drafted him

1573
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: first overall. So you have that nice setup and it's

1574
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 2: gonna be I think a party in Detroit now is

1575
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: going to be a winning party. That is I think

1576
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: legitimately fair to wonder because the Rams should not be

1577
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: seen as a pushover. But that place is gonna be rocking.

1578
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna be a better atmosphere on

1579
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: this first round of the playoffs than Detroit.

1580
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 4: I don't think there has been all season. To me,

1581
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 4: they are the best home crowd in the NFL. I

1582
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 4: love them. Yeah, I'm with you.

1583
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 8: You know the Rams are rested they I think that helps.

1584
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 8: Like the Lions forced to play obviously in Week eighteen

1585
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 8: and you lose Sam Laporta and it sounds like arrow

1586
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 8: up on him improving, But I don't know sure he'll play.

1587
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 8: We're not sure how healthy he'll be. He had a

1588
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 8: hyper extended knee. That doesn't sound like a real joy ride.

1589
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 8: I think this is a like if we think the

1590
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 8: Cowboys Packers is going to be high scoring.

1591
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 5: I see that in this I really do.

1592
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 8: I feel like one little thing that I like doing

1593
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 8: some study was that Sean McVay is four and one.

1594
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 8: I think Detroit's defense is obviously vulnerable. Their secondary is vulnerable.

1595
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 8: We know that Sean McVay is four and one as

1596
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 8: a head coach versus Aaron Glenn coached defenses with twenty

1597
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 8: six plus points in all five of those games. And

1598
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 8: I think that kind of stuff matters because it's the

1599
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 8: same scheme. And it's like, I think that we already

1600
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 8: know that if you study up on Detroit if you're

1601
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 8: McVay that the Lions like are going to give up points.

1602
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: I do remember this matchup in twenty twenty one now

1603
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 4: that the Lions were in the middle of their long

1604
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 4: losing streak to start Jared Goff's run. I think how

1605
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: many day lose straight to start ten something like that.

1606
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 4: And the Rams. We had this sort of storyline back

1607
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 4: then because it was GoF Re turning to La and

1608
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 4: it's interesting now two years later to even and they

1609
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 4: didn't make GoF look great in that game. He had

1610
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 4: a couple of interceptions. It was close for a while,

1611
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 4: but then the Rams pulled away and one it was

1612
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 4: interesting to hear McVeigh talking about it now, even with

1613
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 4: a few more years removed, like how completely regretful he

1614
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 4: is about how he handled everything there, that he basically

1615
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 4: didn't feel like he handled the human side of it

1616
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 4: with Jared Goff at all, and that he's like mature

1617
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 4: and that he essentially he was too focused on his

1618
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 4: obsession with winning and getting to the Super Bowl and

1619
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 4: all this stuff, and that he's grown up from it.

1620
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 4: I don't think Jared Goff has really forgiven him for

1621
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 4: any of that, And so like this is a true

1622
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 4: revenge game. It's more for Jared Goff than anything, because

1623
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 4: what a moment it would be for him, the supposed

1624
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 4: throw in, the supposed guy that actually you have to

1625
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 4: take Jared Goff to get him off our books, to

1626
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 4: make this trade work and for him to find a

1627
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 4: way to win because because yeah, of course, no one

1628
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 4: thinks he's as good a quarterback as Stafford. But these

1629
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 4: two teams are really mirror images when you look at

1630
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 4: the numbers and what they're good at, in that they're

1631
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 4: a top five to six offense, in that they're a

1632
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 4: middle to lower the pack trying to be oper new

1633
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 4: opportunistic defense, and Goff is at the head of that.

1634
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 4: Now he has a great play color, but he had

1635
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 4: one in La too. I think he's gotten better. I

1636
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 4: think the Rams are gonna want to move him off

1637
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 4: the spot. There's no secret like interior pressure. And what

1638
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 4: team is better suited to provide some interior pressure against

1639
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,839
Speaker 4: a good offensive line than Aaron Donald and my defensive

1640
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 4: rookie of the year, Kobe Turner. Is he your conductor?

1641
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: You gave him the first place.

1642
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 4: I did give him the first place.

1643
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, interesting.

1644
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: I think he has a chance to win it. Actually,

1645
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 4: I mean he led all rookies by far in sacks

1646
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 4: in the second half. His name everything was ten days.

1647
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford passing to Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua against

1648
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: Detroit's defense.

1649
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: That is going to be.

1650
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 2: He does walker and he set rookie records obviously with

1651
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: catches and receiving yards and defense past defense for Detroit,

1652
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 2: fair to wonder like if are they gonna be able

1653
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: to handle that? They gave up nearly two hundred and

1654
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 2: fifty yards through the air per game last season that

1655
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 2: was near the bottom of the league. And listen, is

1656
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 2: there a reality where Stafford goes nuts with those two guys?

1657
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and then it puts the heat on GoF.

1658
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: I think Stafford is the more physically talented player than

1659
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 2: Jared Goff.

1660
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 3: I agree with what you were saying that they're not

1661
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: the same type of player.

1662
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 2: But if GoF gets into one of those grooves, he's

1663
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: as productive and as good as any quarterback. And the

1664
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 2: question is will he be able to do that? If

1665
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta doesn't play, losing the tight end to that

1666
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 2: knee injury. What is his latest status?

1667
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 4: By the way, I mean, well, I think they were

1668
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 4: saying he was very unlikely to play this week.

1669
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 8: Campbell says, sounds right. Every day he said, every day,

1670
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 8: we're gonna do more with him. He's improving, but it's

1671
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 8: gonna come right down to the end. And again it's like,

1672
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 8: is he out there? Is like a real threat? Is

1673
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 8: he a d'coy if he's on the field.

1674
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 4: And that's where GoF wins though, And that's the thing

1675
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 4: with this as great as this offense is, and I

1676
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 4: think they'll be able to run the ball against the Rams.

1677
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 4: The Lion's actually their numbers and they're big and beefy

1678
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 4: up front. Like they stopped the run pretty well, which

1679
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 4: is important against this Rams team, one of the best

1680
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 4: running attacks in the NFL. But when they went in

1681
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 4: the passing game, it's over the middle of the field.

1682
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 4: And I always watch with him, it's just like, man,

1683
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 4: if you took one part out, are they gonna be okay?

1684
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 4: And this is a good test of it because they

1685
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 4: rely so much on Saint Brown and Laporta and they

1686
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 4: just want that little extra like speed juice, and it's

1687
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 4: they wanted it to be. Jamison Williams he missed the

1688
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 4: last week's game, but he should be returning this week,

1689
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 4: which is great because they lost kleef Raman to injury.

1690
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 4: He's usually that speed. Like they really could use winning

1691
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 4: something on the outside, because that's where the Rams to me,

1692
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 4: are vulnerable. They are not like a great second. They've

1693
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 4: had some miscommunications. They can give up big plays on

1694
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 4: the outside. And I think keep an eye on Jamison

1695
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 4: Williams maybe having a bit of a breakout game.

1696
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, And like am On Ross Saint Brown, who is

1697
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 8: just the like eternally underrated, has had eleven hundred plus

1698
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 8: yards against zone coverage and the Rams play a very

1699
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 8: high percentage of zones, So it's like there're I just

1700
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 8: I kind of feel like the vision I have of

1701
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 8: this game is like one of the two quarterbacks is

1702
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 8: going to make a critical error in the final minutes

1703
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 8: in game over I just have I just get a

1704
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 8: sense that one of these two quarterbacks is heading towards

1705
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 8: a fateful conclusion.

1706
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: Wow, I uh, the over unders fifty one here, the

1707
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 4: Lions are minus one sixty six to win. And yet

1708
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 4: I just think this Rams team is playing so well

1709
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 4: at the end of the season, as as well coached

1710
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 4: as Ben Johnson and their offenses. To me, Dan Campbell

1711
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 4: talked about biting neecaps and making this team tough upfront,

1712
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 4: and they certainly are on the offensive line and they

1713
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 4: can stop the run. But this Rams team is sneaky

1714
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 4: tough too. They are physical, mauling running game. You have

1715
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 4: that plus Matthew Stafford. To me, that is tough to stop.

1716
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna lock up the Rams on the road

1717
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 4: pretty gutsy.

1718
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 5: Well not when you've clinched them. Yeah, well no.

1719
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 8: But I mean I think, like if I think Dan

1720
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 8: knows how, but I know Greg wants to continue to

1721
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 8: compile like an incredible.

1722
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 4: Right I do. But at this point, no, I mean.

1723
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 2: And also with Rams front office officials, he's working his

1724
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: game with him too.

1725
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I'm definitely rooting for the Rams in

1726
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 4: this game. These are the two teams I'd most like

1727
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 4: to win the Super Bowl though, of all the teams

1728
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. So if the Rams.

1729
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: Literally you have a personal connection to the Rams, it's

1730
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: your sure daughter loves the team.

1731
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 4: Right yeah, Amica, my wife as well. I'm definitely getting

1732
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 4: on board the front. But if they lost, the Lions

1733
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 4: are the team I'd most want to win the Super

1734
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 4: Bowl too, So I like them, But I kind of

1735
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 4: do think they are playing their very best right now,

1736
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 4: and not that the Lions would fill another good game, sure,

1737
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 4: but I think they can get.

1738
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: It another good game. I think it's a coin flip game.

1739
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: I got the Lions. Let's go thirty to twenty seven.

1740
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, these are tough games to pick this week.

1741
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: And you know, if the Rams win, that means our

1742
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: buddy J. B. Long goes deeply good playoffs as well.

1743
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: Ricky Hollywood, Ricky Hollywood maybe go into the game. I

1744
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: think she gets any gwap for that, a little little cheddar,

1745
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: you get a Super Bowl ring if they make it

1746
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: all the way I.

1747
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 8: Mean, knowing the way that you know Ricky fashions these contracts.

1748
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 8: I'm sure there's there's something going on there.

1749
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,360
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1753
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 3: The crown is yours, all right.

1754
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 2: The last game of Wildcard excuse me, Super wild Card

1755
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,520
Speaker 2: Weekend is the free falling out and done nothing Philadelphia

1756
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: Eagles traveling to Tampa Bay to face the Buccaners, the

1757
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: Buccaneers the NFC South champions, and being the NFC South champion.

1758
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: It don't mean much because it's not a good division,

1759
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: but you know what it does mean. It does mean

1760
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: you host a playoff game and going nine to eight.

1761
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 3: Beats going eleven and six.

1762
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: The way the playoffs are set up, so you have

1763
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: the obvious storyline here is really around the Eagles.

1764
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,919
Speaker 3: They're the defending conference champion.

1765
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 4: Here.

1766
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: They were ten and one in December at one and

1767
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: then just completely flatlined finishing eleven and six, blowing.

1768
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 3: The NFC East.

1769
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 9: Uh.

1770
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 2: There's idea and speculation about dysfunction behind the scenes. The

1771
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia move to let him take over the defense

1772
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: has not worked out. Jalen Hurts seems miserable. Everybody seems miserable. However,

1773
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: this is the playoffs and they flipped the switch.

1774
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 8: Mark this is the best wild card round that I

1775
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 8: ever can and they flipped I'll tell you why, because

1776
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 8: this game seems like, oh, it's just.

1777
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 4: Going to go to Tampa Bay.

1778
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 8: Yes, I know, I'm getting to it, and I'm getting

1779
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 8: to it, like I don't think so can they win?

1780
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

1781
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 5: Against this?

1782
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 8: Okay, flip the switch like, I'm kind of over the

1783
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 8: concept of like last both of last year's Super Bowl

1784
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 8: teams were waiting for that to happen, and they're just

1785
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 8: fundamentally different teams. And the Eagles have allowed more points

1786
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 8: than any team in the league since Week twelve. And

1787
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 8: when they played back in Week three, I remember praising

1788
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 8: the Eagles their offense in general, for working themselves out

1789
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 8: of a jam. They ran for two hundred and one

1790
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 8: yards on the bucks a good run defense had almost

1791
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 8: forty minutes of possession, and they showed it. It seemed

1792
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 8: to be able to win games in different ways, and

1793
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 8: now they're just losing games in different ways. It's they're

1794
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 8: also banged up right now. Aj Brown was limping off

1795
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 8: the field last week. Jalen hurts dislocated finger. I mean,

1796
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 8: they're gonna play like Brown is.

1797
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 4: Okay now, they like that. It's just that like their hurt.

1798
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 8: DeAndre Swift was banged up, DeVonta Smith was banged up.

1799
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 8: It's like, so what condition are they in? But on

1800
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 8: the flip side, I think, like, I don't know, I

1801
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 8: don't I'm pretty suspicious.

1802
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 4: Of Tampa Bay.

1803
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 8: But Bigger Mayfield is the kind of quarterback and we

1804
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 8: talked about a little about this on Sunday. He is

1805
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 8: dealing with an ankle injury, a rib injury, who knows

1806
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 8: what else. And I think that Baker Mayfield is not

1807
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 8: like the most I respect him playing through injuries, no

1808
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 8: doubt about it, but he's not the kind of guy

1809
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 8: where if he's banged up, it doesn't seem it seems

1810
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 8: to affect his play, right. And I they were horrendous

1811
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 8: to watch offensively against Carolina, and it's just like we're

1812
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 8: a week later, it's a bad defense, the Eagles in

1813
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 8: free fall. But to answer your question finally, then it's

1814
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 8: like I think the Eagles kind of nip. They nipped him,

1815
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 8: they survive, but it doesn't provide a ton of optimism

1816
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 8: about who they are.

1817
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: Gotcha, I can't feel that I take back.

1818
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 4: What I said about Browns Texans being the hardest one.

1819
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 4: I think this is the hardest one to pick because

1820
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 4: the logic it all says, Philly finds a way, you know,

1821
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 4: the talent, And yet this seems like it's bigger than

1822
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 4: any sort of logic. It's bigger than than football, Like

1823
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 4: this is such a football thing where like it's a

1824
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 4: ViBe's off like that as much as the Bucks have

1825
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 4: had bad games in the last two weeks, Baker Mayfield's

1826
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 4: looked awful. It probably two worst games, you know, all

1827
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 4: season in a row. That's very concerning going into the playoffs.

1828
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 4: Like they're a team that I believe is together and

1829
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 4: like it's a good locker room and all this stuff.

1830
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 4: And there's just something ineffable about the Eagles.

1831
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 3: Right now that you can't even put a finger on.

1832
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 4: And that makes me like, after all the years we've

1833
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 4: watched football for just makes me think, well, the Buccaneers

1834
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 4: will find a way to win, Like they're not. They

1835
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 4: found a way to win nine games, and it's just

1836
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: more that the Eagles are looking to be taken out

1837
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 4: to pasture by someone, anyone, and then it might as

1838
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 4: well just.

1839
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 3: Be the Bucks.

1840
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I see what you're saying, Mark, just because

1841
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 2: if it was almost any other team, I would I'd

1842
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: be on board with Yea.

1843
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: The Eagles are a team that's already dead.

1844
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 4: I think these are the two team round. If I

1845
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 4: put them on neutral field, I'd take the Steelers right

1846
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:48,799
Speaker 4: now over these two.

1847
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,879
Speaker 5: Did just get to their doors blown off by the Giants.

1848
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Eagles against the Cowboys against the Lions,

1849
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: against the Ram, against the Packers, I would say, oh,

1850
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: they're done. I think they can survive this. And I

1851
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: think Baker's Baker being banged up is a big part

1852
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 2: of that, because I think the Bucks will struggle to

1853
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: score points if Mayfield is playing the way he has

1854
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 2: been the last couple of weeks we saw him. And

1855
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: then the question is Greg if it goes the other

1856
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 2: way though, If it really does, the Eagles really are

1857
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: done and there's gonna be some very difficult conversations in

1858
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: those headquarters on Tuesday morning. And I just wonder flash

1859
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: Point Focus was ready, as was Eric Producer.

1860
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 3: That was real nice. Smid bed so happy if that

1861
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 3: is what happens. Man.

1862
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 4: Maybe the Belichick I know this coaching. It was like

1863
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,799
Speaker 4: fairly quiet on Monday. And then each day we get Rabel,

1864
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 4: one day, get Carrol, the next get Belichick, and who knows,

1865
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 4: we still have McCarthy and maybe or Syria. And to

1866
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 4: get to that number ten, say, now there there's been eight.

1867
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 4: I think back to their first playoff game in the

1868
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts era, which is against the Bucks, and it's

1869
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 4: been such a crazy journey in just two years since

1870
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 4: then and the whole takeaway from that game was like,

1871
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts, is he basically can he handle the blitz?

1872
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: But in kind of not said in that is like,

1873
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 4: is he like a real quarterback? Can he do the

1874
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 4: quarterback he things? Can he go through his progressions? Can

1875
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 4: he do this and that? And then he proved every

1876
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 4: sort of doubter wrong last year with the season he had,

1877
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 4: and I think for the most part, has played well

1878
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 4: this year, but last week was a mess. He They

1879
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 4: were a total disaster against the Blitz. Their numbers this

1880
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 4: year against the Blitz are crazy bad. They've been blitz

1881
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 4: more than any team in the league. AJ Brown is

1882
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 4: not practicing Thursday, so that is a concern. They were

1883
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 4: kind of saying it shouldn't be a big deal, but

1884
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 4: he's not practicing. Devontae Smith is back at practice. He

1885
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 4: missed last week with injury, so that's a good sign.

1886
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 4: But here he is against Todd Bowles. When they played

1887
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 4: in Week three, they blitzed them seventy five percent of

1888
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 4: the time, and you think, oh, that was a pretty

1889
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 4: easy win for the Eagles, but you go back and look,

1890
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 4: it was actually one of his lowest PFF grades of

1891
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 4: the year, Jalen Hurts kind of struggled in that game.

1892
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 4: It was one of those where we were like, Oh,

1893
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 4: we're starting to wonder is Jalen Hurt's playing well even

1894
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 4: though they're winning. So will the Eagles just do the

1895
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 4: thing like Brian Baldinger and everyone's been asking for a

1896
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 4: week after week. It's just like, just lean on those

1897
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 4: guys up front and run it down the Bucks throats.

1898
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 4: I know teams don't do that. They love to throw

1899
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,839
Speaker 4: against the Bucks. Is on paper, the Bucks are historically

1900
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 4: good stopping the run. They're better stopping they run there.

1901
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 4: They give up a lot of big plays in the past.

1902
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 4: But I don't know, just focus on your strengths and

1903
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 4: just like let Jalen run, you run with DeAndre Swift

1904
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 4: and avoid all those crazy Todd bowls.

1905
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: Blake, you got the better players, they got the better roster,

1906
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 2: and but are they going to be the better team?

1907
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 8: Does it matter that your quarterback, who is a running

1908
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 8: quarterback has a dislocated finger like I mean.

1909
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 4: It like and hasn't been moving as well, just generally.

1910
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 5: Doesn't heal in four hours.

1911
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: You know, we have a of a friend, Greg that

1912
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: we were texting with and then you know that Jalen

1913
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: Hurt's great leader narrative has been walking quite.

1914
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 4: I think that's act fair. I think that's unfair.

1915
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 8: I mean they've been it's been He's looked very frustrated

1916
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 8: week after week on the sideline. But I don't look,

1917
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 8: I don't think it's changed to as a person that

1918
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 8: all that stuff was real last year.

1919
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 4: What I take from that is like, we make too

1920
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 4: big of a deal of all that stuff. Probably it

1921
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 4: is a fair point to say, but I don't think

1922
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 4: it like changes who he is as a character that

1923
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 4: like their defense is historically bad.

1924
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: There were the worst defends of the lake.

1925
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 4: This was a report or a no, is this our friend?

1926
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is.

1927
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: That might be dimmed a little bit because all the

1928
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: all those dramatic postgame interviews when they were having all

1929
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 2: those comebacks before this slide began, and and he was

1930
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: the confident face of the team talking about you know,

1931
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 2: you know, we never had any fear. I was born

1932
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 2: for these moments. They need it. It seems to me

1933
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: they need somebody in that locker room to get this

1934
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: thing on track well, to maybe deliver some type of message, uh,

1935
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 2: to say, hey, we are we are badass.

1936
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 3: We are, we can be what we were last year.

1937
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: Is there someone in that organization, whether it's the head coach,

1938
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: and it's not the head coach, it's the quarterback that

1939
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: is getting a message across that something the wires have

1940
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: been cut.

1941
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 8: Now, I'm with you on this, Like I also say,

1942
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 8: like I'm not saying he's not no, no, no, but you

1943
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 8: could being Is there someone that can stop the bleeding?

1944
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 8: Because I think this is mental as it is physical.

1945
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 8: The what's broken that's the most like sort of stunning

1946
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Speaker 8: aspect to all this for me, because you could be

1947
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Speaker 8: hours away from Jason Kelcey not being on this team anymore.

1948
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Speaker 5: A lot of veterans made what I mean a million

1949
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Speaker 5: of those guys.

1950
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Speaker 4: That's why I just feel like it's not gonna They

1951
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 4: can't flip the switch right. You would have done it

1952
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Speaker 4: by now.

1953
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Speaker 8: I thought when they were coming back in those games

1954
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 8: during that stretch of time, they were resilient and they

1955
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Speaker 8: had confidence in just who they were. I don't see

1956
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Speaker 8: a team right now that has that same confidence. So

1957
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Speaker 8: that does speak to what's happening in the locker room,

1958
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 8: the coaching leadership, et cetera. But it's like do they

1959
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 8: trust they can get out of a jam if they

1960
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,879
Speaker 8: get down in Tampa Bay. I don't know right now who's.

1961
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Speaker 3: More precious, Sirianni or McCarthy.

1962
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Speaker 4: Sirianni, I feel well, I don't know. Eagles areus depends

1963
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Speaker 4: how those games go. I mean, if they were to lose,

1964
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 4: what kind of losses they are and stuff. But they're

1965
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 4: minus three minus one fifty five. And oh, by the way,

1966
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 4: the Buccaneers a lot of veteran leaders. They have a

1967
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 4: lot of Super Bowl champions on this team, trying to

1968
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Speaker 4: make one last big game. You know. I don't think

1969
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 4: they're gonna go far, but one home playoff win would

1970
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 4: be nice step up in a big spot.

1971
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate having a little Jean degger off on

1972
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: Monday night my life, not at all. It'd be bad.

1973
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 2: Let's pick the game and then we got to a

1974
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 2: close up shop, hit a couple more things. I am

1975
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: going to say, Eagles survive barely twenty four to twenty one.

1976
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 8: I've got Eagles surviving also as mentioned twenty three seventeen.

1977
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 4: I'm leaning I'm leaning bucks here. I hope Baker is healthy.

1978
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 4: I actually don't hope it. I kind of want the

1979
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 4: Eagles to win. But I just think they've shown us

1980
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 4: who they are and who they are right now is

1981
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 4: a mess.

1982
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 3: What do you got for score?

1983
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 4: Let's go twenty four to twenty all right?

1984
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Speaker 3: A couple things first.

1985
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Speaker 2: I have an announcement involving our overseas listeners.

1986
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: They love it.

1987
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 2: They should love it because the National Football League coming

1988
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 2: to their house. The National Football League today announced the

1989
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 2: designated teams set to play in London and Munich is

1990
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Speaker 2: part of the twenty twenty four International Games. The Bears, Vikings,

1991
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: Jaguars will each play international games in London during the

1992
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four regular season, while the Panthers will head

1993
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 2: to Munich, Germany. Each team's opponent and along with the

1994
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: dates and kickoff teams, will be announced when the twenty

1995
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 2: twenty four schedules revealed this spring. And guess what our

1996
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 2: guy Henry Hodgson, who runs the show for the UK

1997
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 2: side of things for the NFL, you know, I said,

1998
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 2: I asked him a couple of days ago, you can

1999
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 2: do some media.

2000
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 3: Around this announcement. He said, maybe I will, and he did.

2001
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 2: He sat down with Will Gavin, our buddy from Talk

2002
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 2: Sport over there, and here's a snippet of that about

2003
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Speaker 2: these announcements.

2004
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Speaker 14: I think the near term focus will be on finding

2005
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 14: new markets and really kind of how do we you know,

2006
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 14: the footprint that we've established in the UK, which is

2007
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 14: really seen as a blueprint for how you enter a market,

2008
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 14: how could you do that in some other markets around

2009
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 14: the world.

2010
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 10: We've obviously announced that we'll be playing in Brazil in

2011
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 10: twenty twenty four, and so that that's kind of the

2012
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 10: next market up. I think that's the most likely near

2013
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 10: term outcome. But I could certainly see the UK having

2014
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 10: the opportunity to host more games as that program expands

2015
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Speaker 10: over the next ten years.

2016
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, Henry kind of made for television

2017
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 2: taking over. Yeah, that's the commissioner one day.

2018
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 4: I see what he's doing too, sending the Panthers to Germany.

2019
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 4: He's very loyal to the UK. Just see it.

2020
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 2: And finally, so make sure you get your tickets for

2021
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: that and hopefully we'll be back overseas.

2022
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 3: You know what.

2023
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 8: We have to joke that he was going to become

2024
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 8: the commissioner, but now it just starts to feel making

2025
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 8: material gains toward that. Now I know it's possibility. The

2026
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 8: Commissioner gets paid pretty well from like that would change

2027
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 8: Henry's well.

2028
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely living in his castle if it happens. All right,

2029
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Finally this happened after we signed off. Wanted to give

2030
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: the a little more floor to Pete Carroll, who, of course,

2031
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 2: the Seahawks and Carol parted ways at least as a

2032
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 2: head coach. He's going to remain in the organization, and

2033
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: he spoke to the media and as you might expect,

2034
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 2: was emotional about the end of an incredible run. I

2035
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 2: think it was what fourteen years with the Seahawks as

2036
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 2: their head coach.

2037
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 3: Here's a little bit of that.

2038
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 15: This is worth crying for. And nobody would ever understand

2039
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 15: how significant she've been through all of the stuff that

2040
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 15: we've been through, and how important she's just been the

2041
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 15: angel in my life. And you everything, boys, Brennan, Nate,

2042
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 15: you guys would have no idea how valuable they've been

2043
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 15: to me because they were the ones that would give

2044
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 15: me all the crap about what I was doing wrong,

2045
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 15: on what I was screwing up. They were harsh and

2046
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 15: their critiques were rash, and the whole thing. It was

2047
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 15: perfect because I needed that loyalty and they were the

2048
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 15: epitome of it for.

2049
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Speaker 2: Me, and I just want to play one more portion

2050
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 2: of the press conference, which struck a chord with me

2051
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 2: and other people I saw on Twitter Carol talking about

2052
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,919
Speaker 2: advice for whether it's who's following him or in general

2053
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 2: and finding success in life.

2054
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, it wouldn't matter whether it's football or whatever.

2055
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 3: To me. The essence of being as good as you

2056
01:35:59,280 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 3: can be.

2057
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 16: You have to figure who you are, and you got

2058
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 16: to figure out that in a relentless effort to try

2059
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 16: and get clear about what's important to you, What compromising

2060
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 16: principles do you stand by, what makes you who you are?

2061
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 16: To maximize your authenticity and being connected to that true

2062
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 16: essence of who.

2063
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 3: You are, that's what's crucial.

2064
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 16: Without that, you're going to be sometimes and you're gonna

2065
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 16: be sometimes.

2066
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 3: Good dude, great coach, and he will be missed at Yeah.

2067
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 8: I there are football coaches through the years who kind

2068
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 8: of go a cut against the grain in terms of

2069
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 8: really wearing their heart on their sleeve. And like Carol's

2070
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 8: always been that guy, and it's not surprising to see

2071
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 8: him fall into tears talking about like I think you

2072
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 8: know coaches, NFL coaches especially, but it puts such a

2073
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 8: it puts a huge weight on marriage, on family, like

2074
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 8: on parenting, you're not around, You're just not around that much.

2075
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 8: And like he found some sort of balance in life

2076
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 8: and he seems to just keep evolving and changing and growing,

2077
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 8: and it's like, I can't wait to see what he

2078
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 8: does next. And when he's giving that advice about being authentic,

2079
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 8: being yourself, I mean, coming from someone else, it would

2080
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 8: sound like hot air, but from him, it sounds like

2081
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 8: sage wisdom because that's exactly like who he's been as

2082
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 8: long as we've known it.

2083
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 4: Right, he did it differently. There's you know, it's hard

2084
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 4: not to compare the how his tenure ends and then Belichicks,

2085
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 4: and they're totally different in both Hall of Fame coaches.

2086
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 4: But I think of his introductory press conference and what

2087
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 4: he said he was setting out to do and what

2088
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 4: he said here, and he was so consistent and how

2089
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 4: loyal his players are to him. He went out and

2090
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 4: partied with a bunch of the great Seahawks of all time.

2091
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, not surprisingly is the one that sent out

2092
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 4: the picture. And Russell was there last night in Seattle

2093
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 4: and they all went out and you could see the

2094
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 4: emotion you see Geno and Locket and and all these

2095
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 4: people in the crowd that like looking like they want

2096
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 4: to cry. And one thing he Carol does stressed like

2097
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: we wanted to come here and make it as fun

2098
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 4: as possible and then focus more than anything on like

2099
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 4: what makes each player great and just focus on that

2100
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 4: and like accentuate that. And I think that's why he

2101
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 4: said such success like bringing out the best in people.

2102
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 4: The tweets and stuff like he is winning in terms

2103
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 4: of the game of life, just like connecting. I think

2104
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 4: in terms of relationships, it's not just hot air at all.

2105
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 3: Like all those people. He means so much too, in

2106
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 3: a way.

2107
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 4: I don't think maybe any NFL coach that I can

2108
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 4: think of has been quite the same. Andy Reid is

2109
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 4: another one. One last thing I wanted to listen to

2110
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 4: from Pera before we go.

2111
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 15: It's been an honor and a thrill to be part

2112
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 15: of this program and I've loved every minute of it, and.

2113
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 16: You've watched me love it in particular.

2114
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 15: And it's exciting that that there's such a future uh

2115
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 15: here and you can see it and we know what's happening,

2116
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 15: and it's bright and the club's got great places to

2117
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,440
Speaker 15: go when there's great chances you know what, ever happened automatically,

2118
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 15: there's a lot of work to be done in all

2119
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 15: of that, but the future is bright.

2120
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 4: It's amazing. He said that, and he said how excited

2121
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 4: he was for John Schneider and was really saying how

2122
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 4: they had this marriage while knowing in the back of

2123
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 4: his head that John Schneider very likely helped to push

2124
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 4: him out, and that Pete Carroll made it clear it

2125
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 4: was not his choice that he wanted to continue coaching,

2126
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 4: that even may continue coaching, he didn't really want to

2127
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 4: entertain that, but he made it clear it wasn't his choice.

2128
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 4: And yet to have the humility to be like, this

2129
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 4: is how it works sometimes, this is life. We've had

2130
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 4: this great relationship and to be like, do it with

2131
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:34,919
Speaker 4: so much place is amazing.

2132
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 2: And the difference between that press conference and the New

2133
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 2: England one, it's notable. And you have Carol, Belichick and

2134
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: Saban all going out the door in twenty four hours.

2135
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 2: And like I've said before, you never want to be

2136
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 2: the guy who replaces the guy. You want to be

2137
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 2: the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the Yes,

2138
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be good luck. Good luck in Alabama,

2139
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 2: goode luck up in New England, and good luck in

2140
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 2: Seattle because they have big shoes to fill. All right,

2141
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 2: thank you everybody. There's a big, action packed show, huge

2142
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 2: games to talk, huge NFL news, and if you made

2143
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 2: it to the end, well we.

2144
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,679
Speaker 4: Love you, bully to you.

2145
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 3: We'll be back. You know when We're going to be back.

2146
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 2: Sunday night the Flagship program and then Monday to cap

2147
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 2: wild Card weekend till then he the call.