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Speaker 1: It is a huge show tonight when I'm right. Well,

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Speaker 2: Put a smile on your face.

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Speaker 1: Put a smile on your face, because it was a

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Speaker 1: really good night. First, a lot of credit needs to

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Speaker 1: But the moderators, of course, tried to bring up several

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Speaker 2: And he never ever, ever, ever, ever took debate.

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Speaker 1: He was on immigration, inflation, immigration, inflation, immigration inflation. All

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Speaker 1: Yes, they were of course biased, and it would tell

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Speaker 2: You already knew. It wasn't some new revelation to you.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's get to the debate clips. And I'm going

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Speaker 3: Look, we had the safest border in the history.

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Speaker 3: when I became president, what mister Trump left me. We

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Speaker 2: Joe, you did such a great job.

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Speaker 5: You answered every question.

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Speaker 1: Yes, husband just embarrassed himself in front of the entire planet.

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Speaker 2: They're sad because he might.

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Speaker 1: Megan Kelly, Meghan, Okay. The debate was obviously a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 10: Well, now the narrative is, you know, as the finger

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Speaker 9: He couldn't even keep his eyes focused.

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Speaker 2: And Megan, I can't get that out of my mind,

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Speaker 1: She hates his freaking guts, How could a wife allow

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Speaker 2: This is his legacy.

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Speaker 10: Now she's another Hillary Clinton. She just comes across as

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Speaker 10: Some of these presidential candidates are driven by their Giselle

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Speaker 10: Fetterman's right, remember her, I don't know if they're still together.

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Speaker 9: Who aspires to it and gets it.

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Speaker 9: And she knows a lot more than we do.

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Speaker 9: A one year old.

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Speaker 2: You did it.

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Speaker 9: The nuclear codes.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of disgusted, this is something you talk about

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Speaker 10: And then literally this morning, he's calling for Biden to

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Speaker 9: I'm concerned about how the Chinese.

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Speaker 10: And even if they do a sub you know, substitution,

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Speaker 9: own making.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.

447
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Speaker 1: All right, wrapping this up, speaking of the other guy,

448
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Speaker 1: what did you think of Trump's performance? Obviously everyone can

449
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: nitpick this or that, and I'm certainly happy to do that,

450
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Speaker 1: but I thought overall he was this didn't stayed on

451
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Speaker 1: message and didn't let the moderators veer him in a

452
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Speaker 1: territory that would be dangerous for him. But that's what

453
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Speaker 1: I saw with my eyes. What'd you see?

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Speaker 9: He was great.

455
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 10: This is the Trump that his advisors have been begging

456
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 10: him to be, and many doubted whether he could do it.

457
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 10: But he didn't fall for the traps. He didn't allow

458
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Speaker 10: himself to get faded. He kept switching the difficult topics

459
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Speaker 10: to something that was more helpful. The American populace does

460
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Speaker 10: not like what happened on January sixth, and you knew

461
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Speaker 10: it was going to come up. And that answer about

462
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Speaker 10: let me tell you what the country looked like on

463
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Speaker 10: January sixth was obviously a dodge, but it was a

464
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Speaker 10: good dodge. Less time talking about what the protesters did,

465
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 10: the better, And he finally saw that he wasn't nasty

466
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 10: against Joe Biden. When he kept getting needled, he defended

467
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 10: himself and stayed above board. He's the one who ultimately said,

468
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Speaker 10: let's not act like children. He's the one who said

469
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Speaker 10: that against Joe Biden, who kept name calling him and

470
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Speaker 10: getting ad hominem. And if anybody looked like the grown

471
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 10: up in the room, it was Donald Trump. I think

472
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 10: this is the Trump supporters, not maybe Cormaga who likes

473
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 10: to see the fighter. But this is like the Republican

474
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Speaker 10: dream of what Trump could be.

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Speaker 9: He nailed it. I give him an a plus.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did nail it. Megan, you always nail it.

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Speaker 1: You were the best. I'll talk to you soon. Thank

478
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: you so much for coming. All right, we have so

479
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: much still to get to, so much analysis, so many

480
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Speaker 1: guests and good Supreme Court decisions.

481
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Speaker 2: Today we'll be back.

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Speaker 3: The idea that states are able to do this, the

483
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Speaker 3: idea that the politicians with, the idea they're emptying their prisons,

484
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: the idea, the idea, the idea that we have, the

485
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: idea that those people are patriots, the idea that I

486
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: did anything wrong, the idea that you have a right,

487
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Speaker 3: and the idea that somehow that's the only reason Iran,

488
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: and the idea that he's talking about all this being fabricated,

489
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: the idea that we're not doing anything. I put more,

490
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 3: the idea today that he said, is true. The idea

491
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous.

492
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, I've got an idea.

493
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Jennifer about this disaster from last night.

494
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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Jennifer Gallardi, culture, health and policy writer,

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Speaker 1: former Democrat, I might note, Okay, Jennifer, please please explain

496
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Speaker 1: to me how you can rest for a week, get

497
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Speaker 1: drugged up on god only knows whatever they gave him

498
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: endless amounts of prep and still be that bad.

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Speaker 2: Is he just a cadaver? Now? Is that it?

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Speaker 11: I mean, the idea that any of us were subject

501
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 11: to that really really atrocious. I mean, yeah, it's bad.

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Speaker 11: And you know what, I somewhat blamed you. I was disheartened,

503
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Speaker 11: and I was sad when I went to bed last

504
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 11: night a little bit. When I woke up this morning,

505
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Speaker 11: I was going to skip watching this because I had

506
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 11: a funny feeling it was going to be as bad

507
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Speaker 11: as it was. And I said, you know what, I

508
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 11: can't handle it. I'm too depressed already about the state

509
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 11: of the world.

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Speaker 6: And then Matt called me up. He said, you want

511
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Speaker 6: to go on the show, and I said.

512
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Speaker 11: Oh fine, I'll do it for you, but you owe

513
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 11: me a beer because my whole weekend is room now.

514
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 11: But you know it's I can't say anything more than

515
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 11: everybody's already said, right, you know, we see it in

516
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 11: front of our own eyes.

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Speaker 6: I'm sad and disheartened.

518
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Speaker 11: Obviously, anybody who's human and has a heart has to

519
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 11: feel for the guy whoever is responsible for taking care

520
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 11: of him, who's his loved ones that are standing by

521
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 11: his side through this should be a Joe Biden should

522
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 11: be ashamed of herself. I mean, honestly, I have a

523
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 11: family member about Joe Biden's age going through a similar

524
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 11: situation with early Alzheimer's or dementia, and it's the saddest

525
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 11: thing to watch. It's really really hard. So obviously that

526
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 11: made me sad and then a little bit angry to

527
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 11: see that people are still perpetuating this lot, but also

528
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 11: made me sad for the country and really disheartened. Like

529
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 11: this morning, I thought about how lost we are. This

530
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 11: this debate seemed to be a reflection of where we

531
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Speaker 11: are as a society, and by that I mean I

532
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 11: feel like we're going through second COVID right.

533
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 6: How easily the.

534
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 11: Media will lie and how easily our country believes these

535
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 11: lies and then when they're caught in the lie, right, Oh, Joe,

536
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 11: Biden's fine, He's so sharp behind the scenes, and we

537
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 11: see Maloney having to take them, you know, pull them back,

538
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 11: and we see all the gaffs and the balls and

539
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 11: the everything we're seeing and don't believe you're lying eyes.

540
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 11: And when they're caught, they take no accountability. Oops, how

541
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 11: did we know?

542
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 6: We didn't know?

543
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 11: Well, some of us knew, a lot of us have known,

544
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 11: and then we forget about it all and then we

545
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 11: move on to the next horse and pony show. I

546
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 11: feel like that debate, you know, Trump had a pretty

547
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 11: low bar to hurtle over, and he did fine. You know,

548
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 11: he hit on immigration, and he had on inflation in

549
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 11: the economy, which are all very important in these matter

550
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 11: to people. But I feel like everybody's missing the big picture,

551
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 11: and there was no mention of the ideological capture of

552
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 11: our institutions and the bureaucracy which has fueled every terrible

553
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 11: policy of this administration. It is fueled immigration, it has

554
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 11: fueled the transgender ideas, and I feel like it's all

555
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 11: leading us down a very dehumanizing and a very unhealthy path.

556
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 6: You know, Biden mentioned there's.

557
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 11: More billionaires and millionaires in the country than ever, and

558
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 11: they need to pay their fair share. Well, there was

559
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 11: no mention of COVID and the greatest transfer of wealth

560
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 11: this country has ever seen in the past four years.

561
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 6: No mention of that.

562
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 11: No mention of our country being seventy five percent obese,

563
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 11: or well, maybe not obese, seventy five percent overweight, almost

564
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 11: half obese. No mention of the brainwashing of our kids,

565
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 11: the grooming of our children. And I feel like we're

566
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 11: just too sick and dumb and numb to recognize or

567
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 11: delusional to acknowledge any of this.

568
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 6: And I feel that.

569
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 11: We've been duped, and we're constantly being duped and no

570
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 11: one's seeing it.

571
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 6: I feel like, ah, we're missing the point again. This

572
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 6: all felt.

573
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 11: You know, Trump did fine, and I think he hit

574
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 11: on some of the things, but I feel like last

575
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 11: night was really a reflection of our own confusion and

576
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 11: our own state of delusion.

577
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: No, I tend to agree with you on that now.

578
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean, electorally, that was probably a smart way to

579
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: handle it. But the truth is, we have this brain

580
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: tumor and we just keep popping ibuprofen for it instead

581
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: of actually digging into the real problem, and we can

582
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: never win. It doesn't matter how many debates we win

583
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: or how many times Joe Biden poops his pants on stage.

584
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: We just can never win until we get to the tumor. Right.

585
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, and I don't even know that it matters

586
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 11: who wins at this point unless.

587
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 6: We have kind of a change.

588
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 11: You know, we're going to like you said, we're popping

589
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 11: ibuprof and so a stronger border will help crime.

590
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: You know, hopefully Trump will get at some of the rot.

591
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 6: But I just think it's so embedded and we're so

592
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 6: far down.

593
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 11: This path that we need to take a good hard look.

594
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 11: How did we get to the point where Joe Biden

595
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 11: is up on that stage debating Donald Trump. You know,

596
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 11: I am obviously going to vote for Donald Trump, but

597
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 11: he wouldn't have been.

598
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 6: My first choice.

599
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 11: You know, I'm a little more conservative, and I'm happy

600
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 11: to compromise in certain things, but we no longer have

601
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 11: anybody sticking up for life in this country. You know,

602
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 11: when he mentioned the abortion pell, I was like, wow,

603
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 11: you know, so I don't know unless we you know,

604
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 11: you talk about this a lot, unless we get more

605
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 11: involved locally, the local school boards. Like I said, if

606
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 11: I had a home right now, I'd be happy to

607
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 11: run for something. I'm still kind of figuring out where

608
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 11: I'm going to live, if I can manage.

609
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 6: Living this close to DC. But you know, we're so distracted.

610
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 11: Again, I felt like this debate was a distraction and

611
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 11: it's everything we've already heard.

612
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 6: You know, this is there were no new arguments being

613
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 6: made here.

614
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah there really weren't. And uh yeah, there really weren't.

615
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: We don't ever get to the heart of the matter.

616
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: And I feel like the GOP in particular, maybe maybe

617
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: it's my fault for wanting them to, because they're not

618
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: capable of it. Nobody really talks about the heart of

619
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: the matter. It's all this talking point or that talking point.

620
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: But as you pointed out, very very accurately, we have

621
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: a we have a sickness right now and no one's

622
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: no one's.

623
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: Treating it at all. Jennifer, you come back soon.

624
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of crap we have to get

625
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: to now. But you and I will talk something and

626
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: I will buy you that.

627
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: Beer when I get back there. All right.

628
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: You know, she brings up some really good points about

629
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: the look. There was a ton that I could nitpick

630
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: right now electorally.

631
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Speaker 2: As far as winning the election in November, it was great.

632
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: It was a great knight.

633
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: As far as Democrats go, it was a disastrous night.

634
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: Joe Biden looks so bad all that stuff. But what

635
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: is our goal? What is your goal? What's my goal?

636
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: In the end, Oh, we have to take the country back.

637
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: We have to get back our culture. We have to

638
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: get back to.

639
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Being a decent society of free people who fight for

640
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: freedom and value freedom.

641
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: And we are a.

642
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: Million miles away from that. But hey, one battle at

643
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: a time, one battle.

644
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: At a time. All right, all right.

645
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: Comedian Dave Smith is going to join us next.

646
00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: We did well your pot job, by your voice, your

647
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: performance sight. Do you have any concerns about your performance? No,

648
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: Parder debate a Linar.

649
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Well, that has to be amazing. Joe Biden was probably

650
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: not the least coherent person in waffle House at that

651
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: time of night. I love me some waffle House. Joining

652
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: me now host a part of the Problem podcast, my

653
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: friend libertarian Dave Smith. Okay, Dave, I don't know that

654
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: anybody speaks for all libertarians. I certainly don't want to

655
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: act like you do libertarians are an individualistic bunch. But

656
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: what's the libertarian take on that freaking grease fire from

657
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: last night.

658
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

659
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 12: I don't know if libertarian theory is going to offer

660
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 12: any insight that just common sense won't. But well, look,

661
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 12: I mean this is I think objectively, there's really no

662
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 12: question it was the worst performance in the history of

663
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 12: televised presidential debates.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a close second.

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Speaker 12: It's impossible, I will say, because you know people like me,

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Speaker 12: and you are interested in politics and in substance. I

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Speaker 12: was not particularly impressed with Donald Trump. I didn't think

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Speaker 12: it was his best night. I thought there were kind

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Speaker 12: of points that could have been made. It didn't have

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Speaker 12: the feel of the twenty sixteen campaign, where it was

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Speaker 12: truly a condemnation of both parties and the swamp and

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Speaker 12: America first. I didn't like his answer on Ukraine or Israel,

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Speaker 12: to be honest, But none of that matters because when

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Speaker 12: one candidate simply demonstrates an inability to walk and speak,

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Speaker 12: the nuance of the political positions doesn't even come into play.

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Speaker 12: Joe Biden from his first thirty seconds was a disaster.

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Speaker 12: I mean, forget even how you feel about it. The

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Speaker 12: guy pivoted from abortion to a girl being murdered by in.

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Speaker 4: Illegal immigrant by It was his choice.

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Speaker 12: It was just I mean, couldn't it was Again, There's

681
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Speaker 12: been some bad performances, particularly in primaries. Bloomberg had a

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Speaker 12: very bad debate performance back in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty.

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Speaker 12: Jeb Bush of course, had very bad. None of them

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Speaker 12: were anywhere near the disaster of what Joe Biden had

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Speaker 12: last night. Joe Biden would have killed for some of

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Speaker 12: that Jeb Bush energy, no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt he could have. So, Dave, how how do they

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Speaker 2: navigate this? Now?

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Speaker 1: All the dirty, miserable people in the media, the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 1: of course, they're all crying today.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go, He's gotta go.

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Speaker 1: But he really can't go unless he decides to go

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Speaker 1: and hands his delegates to somebody at the convention. There's

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Speaker 1: no Michelle Obama swooping in to save the day or

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Speaker 1: whatever these people dream of.

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Speaker 2: So what's the plan? That's that's the question right now.

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Speaker 12: I mean, well, okay, so what we know is that

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Speaker 12: we just last night lived through one of those moments

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Speaker 12: which happened so often. It's really something out of nineteen

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Speaker 12: eighty four. It's the most Orwellian thing where the media

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Speaker 12: will have a narrative they're all in on, and then

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Speaker 12: at the drop of a dime they switch, you know,

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Speaker 12: like with the lab leak theory when John Stewart made

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Speaker 12: fun of it, and then all of a sudden it

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Speaker 12: was okay you could talk about this. Well, that happened

706
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Speaker 12: last night. You're allowed to talk about Joe Biden's age now.

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Speaker 12: Literally yesterday morning this was off limits. They were all

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Speaker 12: just a few weeks ago mocking that Wall Street Journal article.

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Speaker 12: Joe Scarborough was talking about how Joe Biden's at his

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Speaker 12: peak and that behind closed doors he's a savage and

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Speaker 12: he's totally on.

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Speaker 2: Top of it. So that's over.

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Speaker 12: They have now admitted that the Emperor has no close

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Speaker 12: They can join the rest of us who have been

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Speaker 12: talking about the obvious, severe cognitive decline of Joe Biden

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Speaker 12: over the last decade. So that's the first step. Then

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Speaker 12: there's a lot of questions that come up. Can they

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Speaker 12: get Joe Biden to agree to step down? Can they

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Speaker 12: get Kamala Harris to agree to step down if she

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Speaker 12: doesn't want to. She's got a very easy card in

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Speaker 12: front of her. Oh, you're slighting the woman of color.

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Speaker 12: Very easy for her to play that card. Then the

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Speaker 12: question becomes, if you can't get Kamala Harris and Joe

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Speaker 12: Biden to agree, are you better off with Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 12: At this point, it's been pretty unanimous amongst the corporate

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Speaker 12: media class and the political class that they prefer Biden

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Speaker 12: to Harris for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: She's that bad.

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Speaker 12: I'm not so sure that that calculation doesn't change after

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Speaker 12: last night. As awful as Kamala Harris is, she has

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Speaker 12: less charisma than Hillary Clinton, and she's got her annoying cackle,

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Speaker 12: and unlike Hillary Clinton, she speaks like she's taken the

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Speaker 12: strongest edible you've ever heard of, and like doesn't know

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Speaker 12: what's happening in the world. But at this point, is

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Speaker 12: she a better bet for them?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 12: I mean, she's not senile, she does have that going

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Speaker 12: for her, and so I'm you know, your guess is

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Speaker 12: as good as mine. But there's no question that the

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Speaker 12: signal has gone out that they want to get somebody out.

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Speaker 12: It's in there now, that's official. It's no longer just

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Speaker 12: you know, speculation. They want Biden out.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, how much of an indictment is that of Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris that the debate, there's a genuine debate. Do we

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: stick with the dementia patient or go with her? Dave?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I was just ask yourself.

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Speaker 12: I mean, look, if you could remove every sense of

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Speaker 12: morality that you have or any feeling for the nation,

749
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 12: like if you could just say you're just a political

750
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 12: animal and you're only the only thing you care about

751
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Speaker 12: is that the Democrats win the White House this November.

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Speaker 12: Who and you had to go with one of the

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Speaker 12: two of them. I think it's a pretty tough choice

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Speaker 12: right now. It's not self evident that there's a clear choice.

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Speaker 1: To me, man, it's scary that you're right. It's scary

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Speaker 1: that you're right, and it's scary that they're having this argument.

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Speaker 2: Cock, Dave, you're the best buddy. Come back soon. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you. Oh jeez, he's right. All right.

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Speaker 1: We do have other things, you know, this big Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court thing today, a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of them, few of them. Big good things happen today.

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Speaker 2: It's just a great day.

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Speaker 9: We'll talk about it next.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's cover the Supreme Court stuff, because these

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Speaker 1: are much bigger stories. Frankly than the debate from last night.

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Speaker 1: And Josh Hammer is our resident expert on all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: so he decided to drop us a little video and

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Speaker 1: explain all this for US series.

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Speaker 13: Hey guys, it's Josh Hammer, host of America on Trial

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Speaker 13: with Josh Hammer, a first TV podcast. What a day

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Speaker 13: today at the US Supreme Court. Let's start with the

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Speaker 13: Fisher case, the January sixth case. So this is a

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Speaker 13: case involving the application of the two thousand and two

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Speaker 13: Sarbines Oxyact. This statue was always a very poor fit

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Speaker 13: for the j sixers. The statue was passing the aftermath

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Speaker 13: of the Enron accounting scandal. Another under my view of

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Speaker 13: statutory interpretation, there is a doctrine called raschio ledgis reasonable law.

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Speaker 13: Sir William Blackstone, the great eighteenth century English common lawy,

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Speaker 13: described this as the overarching purpose of the statute. And

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Speaker 13: when it comes to statute or interpretation, what it means

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Speaker 13: is that you can't go too far afield from what

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Speaker 13: the statue was effectively intended to do. Well, that's what

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Speaker 13: prosecutors tried to do here. They tried to take this

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Speaker 13: language for this accounting era statue that on its own

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Speaker 13: terms has to do with obstructing the evidentiary rulings and

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Speaker 13: documentary investigations for things like accounting scandals, and then somehow

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Speaker 13: applying it to the J sixers. So it ends up

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Speaker 13: being a somewhat arcane in the Weeds statutory interpretation debate.

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Speaker 13: We're dealing here with the interpretation of eighteen US Code,

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Speaker 13: Section fifteen twelve, subsection C two pertaining to these specific

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Speaker 13: clause quote otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding. Again,

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Speaker 13: they were trying to take up this broad provision and

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Speaker 13: cram it into a shoe box. There the court holds

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Speaker 13: that it is illegitimate. So the practical effect here is

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Speaker 13: is that a lot of J sixers are either going

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Speaker 13: to have the prosecutions dropped or at a bare minimum,

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Speaker 13: their sentences will have to be reevaluated or reduced on

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Speaker 13: the back end. Huge ratifications as well. For President Donald

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Speaker 13: Trump in this case, two of his four charges in

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Speaker 13: Special councils Jack Smith's indictment to Washington d C. Two

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Speaker 13: of the four charges are on this statue. This Sarbaine's

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Speaker 13: oxyt statute. Massive win for Donald Trump. Two of Jacksmith's

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Speaker 13: four charges at least now look like they're having to

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Speaker 13: go away there. It is a massive loss for the

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Speaker 13: dirtbag scoundrel special counsel today Jack Smith. Awful loss. Two

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Speaker 13: other cases that I want to briefly note, Chevron defense

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Speaker 13: has been overruled. Chevron defference was a long standing doctrine.

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Speaker 13: The Court fabricated this and the mid nineteen eighties called

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Speaker 13: mid nineteen eighties case called Chevron. Back then they said

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Speaker 13: that Article three of the Courts cannot weigh in when

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Speaker 13: an agency has reasonably interpreted an ambiguous statute that guides

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Speaker 13: how that agency operates. It was a ruling in the

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Speaker 13: in light of judicial restraint, but it had the perverse

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Speaker 13: effect of emboldening engorging the ad ministry of state. Conservatives

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Speaker 13: and libertarian lawyers have been trying to overturn Chevron for

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Speaker 13: years and years. Now is a long overdue good result.

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Speaker 13: It fundamentally upholds the Marlbury versus mad Is some idea

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Speaker 13: that given to us by Chief Justice John Marshall in

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Speaker 13: eighteen oh three that it is emphatically the province of

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Speaker 13: the judiciary who say what the law is. That is

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Speaker 13: what this case stands for. Chevron doctrine is done with.

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Speaker 13: Is a good result for Taming and the Ministry of State. Finally,

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Speaker 13: real quick the case that of Oregon called Grants pass.

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Speaker 13: The Court rejects six to three a ridiculous Eighth Amendment's

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Speaker 13: Cruel and Unusual Punishment's clause claim that generally applicable homeless

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Speaker 13: laws are necessarily unconstitutional. Very straightforward decision. The craziest thing

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Speaker 13: there is that the three liberals nonetheless dissented. Shows you

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Speaker 13: how kooky much of liberal jurisprudence has become. But overall,

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Speaker 13: a good day at the Court and a great great

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Speaker 13: day for Donald Trump and the j sixers.

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Speaker 1: That's a good day when you agree. All right, I'll

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Speaker 1: give you some final thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's time for my final thoughts slash light

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Speaker 1: in the mood thing on the debate from last night,

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Speaker 1: And I think I think it would only be appropriate

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Speaker 1: not for me to do this final segment. I think

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Speaker 1: I think Dome should do the final segment.

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Speaker 5: Listen. First of all, what we saw tonight is the

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Speaker 5: President making a very clear contrast with Donald Trump on

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Speaker 5: all of the issues that matter to the American people. Yes,

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Speaker 5: there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish.

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Speaker 5: It was a strong finish, strong finish.

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Speaker 3: What if we finally beat Medicare.

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Speaker 2: What a night. I'll see them all