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Speaker 2: It is Thursday May nineteenth, and the conference finals are underway.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Warriors MAVs. We're talking about Heat Celtics

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Speaker 2: as always, Jenkins and Jones hosted by my best buds

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Speaker 2: on the Internet in real life, Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody have a gun.

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Speaker 2: The Jethro Jenkins aka John was that bub Thisscus.

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Speaker 4: Your shit got funny again all of a sudden, probably

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Speaker 4: putting a little razin Dazzlon.

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Speaker 3: You feel that Dallas is doing his job?

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Speaker 2: Man, she I'm GUARDI b aka Mike. And let's talk

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Speaker 2: about that Warriors MAVs game that was on tonight. I

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Speaker 2: don't think were either of you surprised that the Warriors

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Speaker 2: won that game easily? No?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I've got the Warriors winning this series,

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Speaker 1: like you know, Luca's phenomenal, but you no. I mean

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Speaker 1: we saw the well old machine that the Golden State

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Speaker 1: Warriors are, right, and and I think they had what

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Speaker 1: like like everyone who played except for like two. They

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Speaker 1: I think everyone but like two guys scored. So it

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Speaker 1: was just it was just one of those those games

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Speaker 1: was the Okay, this is these are the Warriors that

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Speaker 1: we know playing team ball, playing is one, and you

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Speaker 1: know it's Luca and you know, of course, you know

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Speaker 1: but it ain't the Warriors, bro, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I mean where I'm at with the series, I

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Speaker 1: too here. And that's given Luca a whole damn lot

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Speaker 1: of credit, you know what I mean. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: just showed his ass last last series, right, so it's

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the Warriors win this series, you know,

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Speaker 4: The team defense the Warriors play is just phenomenal. Seriously though,

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Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Luca was seeing two

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Speaker 4: They switched bodies, you know, kept a fresh body on

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Speaker 4: the second quarter, Luca was like kind of wolfed them

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Speaker 2: This ain't Booker.

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Speaker 4: Devon Booker said that everyday light skinned nigga you fucking

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Speaker 3: That's a devil. You know what I'm saying, And you

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Speaker 4: Were you addressing mister Curry, because that's mister Curry to

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Speaker 2: When it comes to the series, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's after last series Luca. Anything Luca does won't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: Think good pro for sure, a hot take to save

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Speaker 2: So I mentioned to you guys that Sear and I

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Speaker 2: It was like we had a golden age and this

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Speaker 2: That's who we have to beat with home court advantage

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Speaker 2: the surprising reinvent Like he like can't believe it, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, it's it's for sure, Like like you know

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Speaker 3: We're not rebuilding, We're reloading.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, that doesn't happen, Like like the Spurs

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Speaker 4: I'm interested in uh a fellow a friend of volume

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Speaker 4: Draymond Green's pod when they after they get that chip, though,

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Speaker 2: with Draymond Green Jackson. What's the how how hectic? Is

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Speaker 2: it attempting to keep Draymond's podcast on the fucking rails?

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Speaker 3: There is no attempt to keep it on me.

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Speaker 5: He was like, no, it's it's okay. Like he wasn't

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Speaker 2: A chip year now. It's a Chip year now.

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Speaker 4: Right exactly.

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Speaker 3: They're they're very they're very focused.

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Speaker 4: He's so opposed to, like just be basketball basketball every

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Speaker 2: But did you see how much people freaked out when

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Speaker 4: At halftime like he has you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: You knowten.

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Speaker 4: In the water fountain in like elementary schools like you me.

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Speaker 2: Action. Did you see Draymond win the game tonight and

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Speaker 3: I did that? Was that was pretty amazing.

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Speaker 5: I've never seen a player do that outside of like

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Speaker 5: I've never seen anyone do that. It was I thought

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Speaker 4: I think that's I think like how he's approaching all

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Speaker 3: You got this?

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Speaker 4: You got fucking popping ass podcasts like number number one.

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Speaker 4: I saw it was the number one podcast. Uh, like

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And then you got this

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the heat. Celtics Game one was yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We can skip this. Actually, what's that?

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Speaker 6: Don't actually, Jackson, while you're here you're while we got

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Speaker 2: Uh, Tyler John, were you surprised by this game, either

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes and no.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was surprised at the South to let it

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Speaker 3: It did, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One thing too, is like I love Tatum. I love

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Speaker 4: You know, probably my most my favorite player in the league.

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Speaker 4: But they have moments when they're just so loose with

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Speaker 4: I know, they're yeah, yeah, the rockets, like they're dribbling.

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Speaker 2: It up by their ear and ship like they just

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Speaker 4: You're you're trying to split defenses, with the with the

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Speaker 4: It's just and so like these moments where they show

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Speaker 4: And you can't do that, especially against the Spoe coach team.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, You just can't do that.

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Speaker 3: And I was.

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Speaker 4: Surprised by the first half how hot, the hot that

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Speaker 4: came out, where they were getting everything they wanted at

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Speaker 4: And then the second half how they like you know, Spoe,

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Speaker 4: you know, clogged all that shit up. They was getting

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Speaker 2: They scored twelve, I believe in the third quarter, and

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Speaker 2: they're they're slow to CounterPunch. It's like, you know, Spoe

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Speaker 2: makes the adjustment, clogs up the lane. Well, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: Know, And and like a quarter of struggling.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I get like Tatum five

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Speaker 2: Because you've pointed that out. You you've pointed that out

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Speaker 2: that it's like they do. They're not disciplined offensively, Like

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Speaker 2: if it starts going wrong, it's gonna go super wrong

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Speaker 4: I think he had more turnovers and points that quarter.

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Speaker 3: He had six turnovers in the third quarter.

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Speaker 4: Seven towards D think Anthy had one in the first.

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Speaker 3: And he had six in the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not ideal. Jackson. Were you surprised by the

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Speaker 2: way that when and as a Celtics fan, how are you, like,

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Speaker 2: are you shrugging that game off or are you worried

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Speaker 5: I was a little surprised it unraveled for so long.

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Speaker 5: The Celtics did not convert a made field goal until

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Speaker 3: That's a long time for a struggle like that.

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Speaker 2: It was like the worst.

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Speaker 3: So I was.

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Speaker 5: I agree that they had a little sloppy, but I

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Speaker 3: As far as the rest of the series.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say I'm shrugging it off because Jimmy

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Speaker 5: Butler has clearly turned into God. But the Celtics won

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Speaker 5: the other three quarters they did, and also Marcus Smart

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Speaker 5: Horford's likely not, which is a bummer. But Marcus Smart

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Speaker 5: playing third eight minutes means that instead of thirty Peyton

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Speaker 5: getting picked on is just not as much of an issue,

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Speaker 2: But if you can do that, like what I mean

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Speaker 2: that that that they were for sport.

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Speaker 4: He bro Peyton. He has to be like a flamethrower

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Speaker 4: for it to make sense for being an be on

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Speaker 4: was in front of him, like go get you a bucket, right,

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Speaker 4: And he was.

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Speaker 5: Offensively actually he actually was, but the first half, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's not he's not can't hang with with the on

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Speaker 3: That's as smart as the Heat.

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to say that I was like, what

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Speaker 4: is what is uh Jimmy Butler gonna do. He's gonna

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Speaker 4: guard take him on one end and then get forty

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Speaker 4: on the other. Like that's gonna happen. That's exactly what

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Speaker 4: the fuck he did, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 4: we'll see if you continue to do that. But I

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Speaker 2: We had some rare tension in the group chat over

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Speaker 4: Bro y'all brought up some y'all made up some some

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Speaker 4: salliate points, you know, Like also, like me going from

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Speaker 4: so unfortunate. But I'm not rooting for the Celtics, rooting

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Speaker 4: I just can't get away from the Caucaus Mountains.

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Speaker 2: They followed me wherever I go.

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Speaker 4: Caucassidy just won't leave me alone. It won't leave me

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Speaker 4: be Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: So but yeah, but I think we I think we

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Speaker 1: like it's it's it seems like every regular season. I'm like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler's best years might be behind him. Then every

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Speaker 1: postseason he spases the fuck out, bro And and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a little bigger than Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because Jimmy has been you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a fucking mid range monster. This post, like that

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Speaker 1: right elbow has been money. Right, So like mid range

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Speaker 1: and clamping up on defense, if you do that in

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Speaker 1: the postseason, you're gonna be just fying, regardless of how

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Speaker 1: you know, you might have been slumping in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Like we saw that last year with Middleton, right like,

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Speaker 1: of this team, be honest, might be the rob And

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Speaker 1: we saw that fucking twenty twenty with a d when

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Speaker 1: he went crazy in the mid range. We saw that

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when Kawhi went crazy in the mid range,

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Speaker 1: right Like, It's it's I think that as much as

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Speaker 1: be what you can fucking hang your hat on to

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Speaker 1: get a championship, bro, Like that's never gonna change up.

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Speaker 4: And a bucket's a bucket, gee, if you can get

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, you know what I'm saying, if you can,

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Speaker 4: If you can shoot that shit, shoot that shit, just

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Speaker 4: like you know Katie was talking about. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. He just he plays basketball, you know what

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Speaker 2: You know, Like, so Jimmy's fun Jimmy in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: it's the way that the game changes or if it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of both. But he definitely just seems

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Speaker 2: like he's He's the type of asshole who lives for

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, right, He's living for the Tobias Harris over me.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Is there anybody more underrated than Jimmy Because

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Speaker 4: we talk about Booker and not getting respect in all

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Speaker 2: Think he's correctly rated during the regular season because I

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Speaker 2: just don't I mean, I you know, when I watch

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Speaker 2: a heat game, it's he's just a different player in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. You can't take your eyes off him in

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Speaker 2: a playoff game. He's just a completely different monster. And

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Speaker 2: so I think we rate him correctly when the playoffs

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Speaker 2: come and you're like, oh, this dude just can't miss television.

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Speaker 2: But I don't feel bad about not putting him up

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Speaker 4: We don't hear anybody talking about Jimmy. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like nobody ever talks about when we bring

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Speaker 4: getting frustrated. You know what I'm saying, bad teammate, all

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Speaker 4: this shit, Jimmy when his time to get buckets as

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Speaker 4: a bucket, you know what I'm saying, Like we need

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Speaker 4: to start talking about that. So that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's better than Booker, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I'm saying, but I'm saying that Jimmy

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Speaker 4: does what he needs to do.

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Speaker 2: Taking the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: You say, you shit, you talk about Jimmy like I mean,

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Speaker 4: Jimmy's been proving to be a dog in the biggest moments,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And what he did with

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Speaker 4: I hate it going crazy, but I hate serious twenty.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's what twenty two points a game with

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Speaker 2: And they got the one seed. It's not like they

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Speaker 2: were taking the numbers. But he's but half of his

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Speaker 2: games in the playoffs he scored forty.

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Speaker 4: So like I mean, but yeah, but his regular season,

439
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Speaker 4: and that's those are great numbers in the regular season,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think he's just a prime example of,

442
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Speaker 1: you know how much, regardless of how much the game

443
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Speaker 1: of olves, you're not going to win the playoffs if

444
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Speaker 1: you don't work the mid range, if you don't play defense,

445
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: and if you don't execute in the half court, no

446
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: matter how much the game of alves, if you don't

447
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: do that nineteen forty eight ass basketball shit right there right,

448
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,479
Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere, bro.

449
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 2: And without playing a style that doesn't transport to the playoffs.

450
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Speaker 2: Like some free throw hunters we could name, he's also

451
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Speaker 2: getting to the free throw I think he was eighteen

452
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Speaker 2: and nineteen from the free throw line in the first

453
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Speaker 2: In the first game, I think he had his forty

454
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Speaker 2: points was on like nineteen shots, right, eighteen nineteen shots,

455
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, that that works too, because he's not dancing

456
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Speaker 2: around the perimeter like he's genuinely attacked. He's forcing contact.

457
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Speaker 2: He's forcing fouls, and not in the way that Grant Williams,

458
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Speaker 2: who's my least favorite basketball player in the fucking NBA

459
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Speaker 2: right now, not in the way that he's forcing contact

460
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: by actively throwing himself under the tires of speeding semi

461
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 2: trucks hoping to get a fucking call, but by driving

462
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Speaker 2: the ball and forcing people to defend him and getting

463
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Speaker 2: to the foul.

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Speaker 4: On y'all just mad because he got Yannis the fuck

465
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Speaker 4: up out of here. Grant Williams is what did it?

466
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

467
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Speaker 2: He he had one of the one of the charges

468
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Speaker 2: he tried to take on Bam that they correctly called

469
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Speaker 2: a blocking foul. Was the textbook perfect example of why

470
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Speaker 2: they need to legislate this shit out of the fucking game,

471
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Speaker 2: because Bam ended up he only didn't horribly injure his

472
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: ankle because he allowed himself to just fall on top

473
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Speaker 2: of Grant Williams instead of planting his foot, and I

474
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Speaker 2: think he ended up elbowing Grant Williams or kicking him

475
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Speaker 2: in the face and knocking his head into the ground.

476
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Speaker 2: But it's like, who is this good for? You want

477
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Speaker 2: guys trying to defend Giannis like this in the.

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Speaker 4: NBA, Bro, there's I get that, but there's no way

479
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 4: other way to Guardianis And just like that, I mean,

480
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Speaker 4: that's the only way.

481
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Speaker 2: They're just falling under his feet and hoping they call

482
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Speaker 2: an offensive found I'm.

483
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Speaker 4: Just saying, like, no when he know when he I'm

484
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Speaker 4: talking about Yiannis bangs a lot. So just trying to

485
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Speaker 4: absorb that, take the charge. I get that when you'renest

486
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Speaker 4: I mean that doesn't you don't need to do that

487
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Speaker 4: with everybody, But I mean, wait till Lowry comes back,

488
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a fucking charge mania around his motherfucker.

489
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That motherfucker flopped off of a Max Struss, like, you know,

491
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Speaker 1: move to the side.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all see that ship?

493
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Speaker 2: Yes? I did, And that was when I started yelling

494
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Speaker 2: obscenities at my fucking television. Fucking dude, off the court. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck great Williams. Man, I don't give a fuck.

496
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Speaker 3: I don't care if that's this only guardian.

497
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Speaker 1: I just can't fuck the man flopped the who when

498
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Speaker 1: they were battling for position. Bro, Like that is just no,

499
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Speaker 1: it's I mean, I get the whole. Yeah, it's smart

500
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Speaker 1: to take charges and ship. But Bro, it's like, at

501
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Speaker 1: what point are you are you being a bit about it?

502
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Speaker 2: Bro?

503
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: Like you're when you battle with a position, you're popping with.

504
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Speaker 3: Max Struss is happy on your back.

505
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Speaker 1: I guess too.

506
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Speaker 2: Much, Bro. I was glad to see that the officials.

507
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 2: The officials are onto him. The buddy's out there on

508
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Speaker 2: Grant Williams.

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Speaker 1: Not at all.

510
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Speaker 2: Watch all right, I'm sorry to get that off my

511
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Speaker 2: fucking chest.

512
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Speaker 4: You could wait to the pond because of a bubble,

513
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Speaker 4: right there, Bro, You and Tyler going in on fucking

514
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Speaker 4: Grant Williams. Good for y'all.

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Speaker 3: We are to.

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Speaker 2: Grant Williams as Patbev is to Chris Paul, and I

544
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Speaker 2: want to talk about I want to talk about Pat

545
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 2: beat and I want to give Tyler a chance. And Jackson,

546
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Speaker 2: if you want to cut this out for social media,

547
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: you can title it in defense of hatred Tyler. The

548
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Speaker 2: floor is yours, what man.

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Speaker 1: I have thoroughly enjoyed the Pat Bev hate tour. I'ms

550
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: this man flew cross country, woke up at four point

551
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, put on a collared shirt, and

552
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: went to go talk some shit about his sworn enemy

553
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: during the lowest point.

554
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: Of this season. I love shit like that.

555
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: That is dedication, bro, And all that shit about oh,

556
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Speaker 1: Pat Bev isn't on Chris Paul's level. He can't say that, Bro.

557
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't fucking matter. It's funny, that's all the fucking matters.

558
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: And that motherfucker is in the NBA.

559
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: Bro.

560
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: Truth be told.

561
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Speaker 1: We if we're gonna play it like that, none of

562
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: us have a right to talk shit about anybody because

563
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: Pat bab is closer to Chris Paul that any of

564
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: us comments and on this shit are close to past

565
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: Pat bev. You know, I'm saying Pat Bebb will bust

566
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: everybody's ass who's saying he should have been talking about

567
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: Chris so and and and and I just don't get why,

568
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: of all people, Chris Paul is the one who people

569
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: are like, oh, this is too far Chris Paul, Like

570
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: he's not even a likable dude, bro, Like I can

571
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: understand if motherfucker's like, oh, you can't talk about Tim

572
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: Duncan like this, like everyone loves Timmy, but Chris Paul,

573
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: Like this is where we we gotta fucking pull out

574
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: the resumes and compare resumes and pull out spreadsheets and

575
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: go to trial about who gets to.

576
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: Talk about Chris Paul.

577
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: No, Look, the motherfucker was weak as hell in like

578
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: the last.

579
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Speaker 3: Four games of that series.

580
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Speaker 1: He you know, he was a fucking traffic cone like

581
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: like that man said, and look and and and that's

582
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: the difference, right, Like people were like, well, you know,

583
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: Pat bad wasn't really hating.

584
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: He was telling youth. Yes, he was telling truth.

585
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: He was also hating like you can, the truth can

586
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: come out of you from a place of hate.

587
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: And I say that as as a lifelong hater of

588
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: a lot of.

589
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I say that, and from a place of hate, then yes,

590
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: the truth can't come from a place like pat Dad

591
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: was pulling up. Ask him about how I busted his

592
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: ass and a high school can you can ask Lebron

593
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: that's some hain shit, like cool, you busted his ass

594
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: in high school. That was two thousand and two. Bro,

595
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 1: it's like twenty years later. But like I said, I

596
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: love it. I do not do the whole police in all.

597
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: You don't get to talk about that guy because you're

598
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: not as good as that guy.

599
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: Because fuck that, because.

600
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: Like, like if we've lived like that, only like like

601
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: I said, only like twenty people in the world will

602
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: be able to talk shit about Chris Paul. And I

603
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: do not want to live in a world where only

604
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: twenty people can clown Chris Paul. I want to clown

605
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. I want to see other people clown and

606
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. So fuck oh that shit man. John has

607
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: nothing to add to that. The only thing I.

608
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: Would add to that is, uh.

609
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: This is what we can do Chris Paul can play

610
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: basketball at the level that Chris Paul can. We can't

611
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: do that. We can talk shit. That is the route

612
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: that is available to us and to self limit that

613
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: for Chris And as you said, for Chris Paul, because

614
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Speaker 2: you only kick fourteen people in the dick instead of

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Speaker 2: sixteen people, we have to people like to him, like what.

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Speaker 4: That's a whole lot dicks, man. I think at some

617
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 4: point you should go to jail when you punch that

618
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: many dicks. They should be like night, Like, yeah, you

619
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Speaker 4: can't get to eight dix. It's like, you know you

620
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Speaker 4: got one night at least in the huskaw. You know

621
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Speaker 4: what I mean. Come on, but we do need.

622
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: To discuss uh somehow. Despite the fact that he cut

623
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: a vacation short to hate, Pat Bev might not have

624
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: been the most hating ass person around the NBA, because

625
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: I have to find the exact tweet that little man.

626
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: Mark piss in your mouth? Is that what he said?

627
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: Or face he said, Mark Cuban, don't make me get

628
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: you smacked. Boy, you playing with me, I will piss

629
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Speaker 2: in your fucking mouth.

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Speaker 4: Calling somebody a hole like like dog. That's that's some

631
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: throwback disrespect. You don't have to. We all we all

632
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: fuck nigga. Now, we ain't called nobody a hole in

633
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: a while. You know what I'm saying Like, that's some

634
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: different ship that that's sounds more, that sounds kind of personal.

635
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is I vividly remember fucking uh Weezy

636
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: and bird Man party with Mark Cuban when they won

637
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: that ship in Miami two thousand and eleven, and it's like,

638
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: now you you want to urinate in the guy's mouth?

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Speaker 3: I mean, wow, Like, how do we get here?

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Speaker 6: Bro?

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00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: Right?

642
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm because you know, Mark Cuban retweeted, you know, the

643
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: tweet where he called Lukaho. He's been calling everybody a

644
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: whole lately. Now that I think about, he called Lukoh,

645
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: he called Cuban hole like hole. Might be he might

646
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Speaker 1: be bringing whole back, but he called that.

647
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Speaker 4: Ship where it's that man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't way too much nigga, But.

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Speaker 4: Bro, what did that weird ass nigga say? What did

650
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: he say? That?

651
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Speaker 2: Was? Bro?

652
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: A well placed fuck nigga ain't nothing better than That's?

653
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, That is a that was

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Speaker 4: such a well placed she had to because.

655
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: She got it.

656
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: She got it as.

657
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever I don't think I've ever

658
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: been angry enough for someone to tell them that I

659
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 2: would pee in their mouth. I don't think those words

660
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: have ever I don't think they've ever even been in

661
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 2: my head, and I had to like not say them.

662
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't even do the I've never been a fan

663
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: of the suck my dick talkings and insult like I

664
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: don't want if I don't like you.

665
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to put my dick in your mouth, like.

666
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't want my penis anywhere around you if I

667
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: don't like you.

668
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know. There have been times, all right,

669
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: no one to talk, but you know, maybe.

670
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the hoop talk. I want to know what

671
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: you guys think, because I think we've all been on

672
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: a journey with this new Kendrick project, and I'm curious

673
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: as to where you both ended up. Tyler has been

674
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: in the place that I aspire to be with all

675
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: art which is considered upon its own merits, everything has value,

676
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: both intellectually and emotionally, et cetera. And Tyler got to

677
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: that place with the Kendrick Double album.

678
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: Which I did.

679
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: I would like to hear about.

680
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad we didn't talk about this last episode

681
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: because out of given like a whole different Yeah, it

682
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: didn't hit me on the first listen and didn't hit

683
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: me on the first four or five lessons. I want

684
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: to say, like it took me to like Monday night

685
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: before it really really hit me in I'm in love with.

686
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: It now, you know.

687
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's not an album that I would

688
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: necessarily use the word enjoy about, right because it's a

689
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: very personal, very vulnerable album where Kendrick invites us into

690
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: a lot of uncomfortable conversations.

691
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: Right.

692
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: So, like I mean, like, for instance, I think that

693
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Mother I sobers like the crowning achievement of that album.

694
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I enjoy it.

695
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: I can't enjoy, you know, Kenrick talking about the ripple

696
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: effects of his mother being you know, molested. Like, but

697
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate the artistry of it. It hits you in

698
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: a very you know, deep spot. I appreciate the you know,

699
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: you know that aspect of it. But I want to

700
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: say I enjoy it. I want to say I quote

701
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: unquote enjoy a lot of the album because, like I said,

702
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: the subject matter is real heavy but it it took

703
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 1: me like five or six listens for it to really

704
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: really set in.

705
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: And I think it's it's some of his best work.

706
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

707
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at with it.

708
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: Wow Wow, wow wow.

709
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: I think I.

710
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: Don't know if it's When I first heard it, I

711
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: was like, maybe this is his Jesus. That was my

712
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: first thought. I heard to my homies about it too,

713
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: like you know, like some other homies. I was like,

714
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe this is his Jesus. But I

715
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: didn't think the music really was. It didn't really push

716
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: music anywhere, which I think that Jesus, did you know

717
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: what I mean? Even though I didn't really less like

718
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: that sound, I think it pushed music to a particular place.

719
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: But uh, I don't think it was that. But I

720
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: remember thinking, like, this is an album he wanted to make,

721
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: and I think he wanted to make an album that

722
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: the world needed more than the world wanted. And I

723
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: was talking to some homies and one of my homies said, like,

724
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: it was a bunch of us, like for Saint Louis.

725
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 4: Nigga's on the golf course this past Sunday, and one

726
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: dude said, he said, I'm not normally a dude that

727
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: I'm not. I've never been a dude that like I

728
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: need music. Music like you know is my life type? Motherfucker.

729
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But he said this album

730
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: spoke to him in a way no other album has,

731
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: and that he went to therapy talking about particular songs

732
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: because it touched him in a particular way. And I'm like, okay,

733
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: Like so I'd listened to it a few times. I

734
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: listened to it a couple of times. I mean I

735
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: knew the first time. I was like, you know, I

736
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily get it, like Tyler was saying, I was

737
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: looking for something totally different. I was extremely high, which

738
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: is not the place to be listen to this, like

739
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: the stories that he's telling, But I'm like, it's Kendrick.

740
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: If it wasn't Kendrick, I wouldn't have gave it this

741
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: amount of these many opportunities. But I was like, you

742
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: know that there's something. The more I listen to, the

743
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: more I was like, there's something here. I don't necessarily know,

744
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: but there's something here.

745
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

746
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: Are you all familiar with Arthur Jaffa, Like the uh

747
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: like he creates these visits he collects like like video

748
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: like visuals like this, and he puts them all together

749
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 4: and makes these really powerful visuals like like forty five

750
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: minutes where kind of like has music and like these

751
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: it's they're really cohesive, but they seem random at the

752
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: same time, but they're really moving. And I feel like

753
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: this kind of mimics that it's it's truly art. And

754
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 4: I understand how you saying it's his best work artistically.

755
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: The sound of it, I don't think touches me as

756
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 4: much as other projects have where I think, like to Piple,

757
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: Butterfly was where like music and message you know, were

758
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: like perfect, right. I think he leaned way more into art,

759
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, way more into like this

760
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: being like more of an art project in him like

761
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: then than than the music part. But and I was thinking,

762
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: like I remember saying, I think he leaned so far

763
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: into the message that it hurt the music. But I

764
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: think the approach was just different. But I truly appreciate

765
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: it now. It feels it. It feels you know, like

766
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: like my homie said, it feels different than any other

767
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: album has ever felt that I've listened to. And so

768
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: maybe it is Jesus where it pushes music to a

769
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: place it we haven't heard it, but I didn't appreciate yeesus,

770
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: I can appreciate this. That was a very long way

771
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: of explaining about Okay.

772
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: It was you know, like like the conversation we had

773
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: the night or the morning after it dropped it, you know,

774
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: we said, I was like, you know, it feels genuine.

775
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I don't feel like, you know, he's being artsy for

776
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: this sake of being artsy. I feel like the art

777
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: that's coming from is genuine. So that's why I stuck

778
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: with it.

779
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: Right.

780
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: It didn't feel lazy, it didn't feel contrived, and of

781
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: course it's Kendrick. Kenrick has earned that good faith of

782
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: me where I'm just not going to run his album

783
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: one time and hang it out. No, but it's it's,

784
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, after kind of you know, just just sitting

785
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: with it and listening to it. It's like so much

786
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: of Kendrick's work has been dealing with survivor's guilt, like

787
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, on Good Kid, Mad City, like you know

788
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: the theme of that was, you know, he was you know,

789
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: grieving over over growing up in an environment where a

790
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: lot of his friends didn't make it out. You know,

791
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: suspender butterflies, like, Yo, I made it out the hood.

792
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: A lot of my homies haven't, right, Like the whole album, Yeah,

793
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: I feel that, you know what I mean. Damn was

794
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: like you know he was he was kind of grieving

795
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: for himself a bit. On dam It's like, Yo, I

796
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: might have lost myself in all of this fame, and

797
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: it's like on on mister Morale, it's like he just

798
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: he he unburdens himself of all that. It feels like

799
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 1: it feels like he's like, yo, you know, survivor's guilt.

800
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: That's not my burden a bear anymore. It's like I'm

801
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: not the anointed king, the voice of a generation that

802
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: y'all want me to be.

803
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: Either.

804
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: He's like, and I don't give a fuck if y'all

805
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: talk shit about me either. He's just like rebuking whatever

806
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: title you try to bestow and him good or bad.

807
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: And it feels like it's from a place where it's

808
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: more fatigue than like the fiance, right, Like if there's

809
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: a certain element of yeah, you know, fuck y'all, I

810
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck what y'all think about me. That's

811
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: there for sure, But it's also like, bro, I'm tired,

812
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I've been through so much.

813
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm fucking exhausted. I can't be all things to everybody.

814
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

815
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: And because you know, he he ends the song he

816
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: is the album on mirror saying, you know, I choose me.

817
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Like it's like, bro, I'm not gonna be anyone.

818
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be for anyone but myself from here

819
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: on out. Like that seems like that's powerful.

820
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, how powerful is that?

821
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: And that's what That's what.

822
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: That's one thing I want to say too, is like

823
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: I thought to Pimp a Butterfly was just so heavy,

824
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: and I thought the music, you know, like and the

825
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: message in it was was so strong. But I think

826
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: this is his most powerful album, probably because even though

827
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: Damn was more about slaps and it seemed you know

828
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: and good kid, mad city into people, Butterfly, they were

829
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 4: very personal. This is by far his most personal album

830
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 4: for sure. You know, he took like the things he

831
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: was talking about in rappers have never talked about before,

832
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: talking about being like, you know, molested, you know, struggling

833
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: with that himself. Like you said, he emburdened himself with

834
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: the things that he was hiding from others, you know

835
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: what I mean, and I mean Doug, it's such a

836
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: brave way of making art and music. Like he's just

837
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 4: a true fucking artist. And I think with this album,

838
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: he's just not you know, like a the artist that

839
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: we view, we don't view. I don't just view him

840
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: as an artist like as a musician. I've just view

841
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 4: him as an artist. He's not just a rapper. He's

842
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: an artist. He makes art and this is what it is.

843
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: And I can't wait to see the visuals that come

844
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: with this. I cannot you know, pg Lang has been

845
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: doing some great ship, but I can't wait to see

846
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: what he does. And I've the last time I saw

847
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 4: Kendrick live was when he was at uh fader for

848
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: not faded for It was that it was a faded

849
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 4: for it, but it was solid by He was there too,

850
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: ta and I haven't seen him since he blew up

851
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: for real, like to see you, like really really blew up.

852
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: But I really want to see the live performances that

853
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: come with this ship. Man.

854
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: I think this, I think this will be.

855
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: Kanye level, and you know, fuck Kanye. But you know

856
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: we'll be talking about him musically and his performances very

857
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: kind of very elevator, you know what I mean. And

858
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: I mean that's you know that that that touched my

859
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: little nerdy ass artistic as you know what I'm saying hard,

860
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: but I just man, it's just it's just it was.

861
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: It was just such powerful, brave music. And I can't

862
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: help but appreciate that. When I first heard it, I

863
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: had my own expectations and you know, going to it

864
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: a certain expectations. I knew it wasn't gonna be the

865
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: album that I talked, We talked about this. I don't

866
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 4: think this the album I want, you know what I'm saying,

867
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying. I think I'll be

868
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 4: able to appreciate it. But it was just so different

869
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: from anything I've ever heard. I couldn't process it, you

870
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was hard to process. But

871
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: you know, whatever reason the second, the second or third

872
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: run was just because it's Kendrick. But after that, it's

873
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: like I don't necessarily get it, but there's something here

874
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: that's touching me. And like the more I run into

875
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: some more beautiful it gets like it's like peeling back

876
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: the layers, you know, and really, you know, it's just

877
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: it's a it's a special, special project. And I don't

878
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: know if there's any radio hits or you know, like

879
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 4: or you know what I mean, But I just I

880
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: just never heard music. I don't say I don't know music,

881
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 4: but I never heard rap music like this. He took

882
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: rap to a place nobody's taking it before. And of

883
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: course Kendrick Lamar fucking did that. So that's how I

884
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: feel about it.

885
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: Fucking artist of the generation.

886
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I remember when we were when we saw him at

887
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: Fade or Fort, and I remember Solandra was in fucking

888
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: via like bouncing in high heels to fuck your ethnicity

889
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: when it came out. This was this was before Kendrick

890
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: was big. This this is before kid Bad City, And

891
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Slaw is really really kind of

892
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: tapped into this ship. But yeah, you know, I totally

893
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: agree with everything you just said, and I just can't

894
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: mother eye sober. That is like, like, I won't argue

895
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: with anyone who says that's the definitive Kendrick album of

896
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: his career. Like if someone says that's Kendrick's magnum opus,

897
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: like you won't get an argument from me out of that.

898
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: It is just a phenomenal song because you know, like

899
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 1: I said, you know, the previous themes of his album

900
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: were survivor's guilt. This album is like, yo, I'm realizing

901
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: every burning ain't mind a bear and they just like

902
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: both collide on that song, you know what I mean,

903
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: and they give us like.

904
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: It's a it's a therapy album.

905
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you agree?

906
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: I mean it's it like both the album as therapy

907
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: and also an album that could only have been produced

908
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: by someone who has not just like bumped up against

909
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: their own issues, but like grappled with them, you know

910
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: what I mean?

911
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he he on the on the

912
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: first track, he opens it up talking about he's going

913
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: to therapy. Like there's a little skit with him and

914
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: his you know girl arguing about how he needs therapy

915
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: and ship. So yeah, you know, yeah, it's it's for sure,

916
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: that definitely, and like like.

917
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: We cry together, you know what I mean, Like you

918
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: know it was it's a difficult listen.

919
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've only ran it like once.

920
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: I have not going back to that, Bro, I don't

921
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: think I need it more than once. I'll listen to

922
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 4: it like halfway through it and I just can't, like

923
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: I would listen to a raleit. She was like, can

924
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: we skip this? Like, you know, it's just a lot

925
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: of energy in there, but I think it's important, like

926
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 4: every piece, like it's an important part of this.

927
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: You know.

928
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of like I can't skip anything on

929
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 4: this because I feel like, you know, like song three

930
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: is seen three, song eight is is seen eight, fast

931
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: forwarding through right, you know what I'm saying, It doesn't

932
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 4: make sense to to to to you know, listen to

933
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: it like that. But it's man, it's just there's there's

934
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: somebody that the skits are so well thought out. And

935
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: at first I was like, man, it's just shit corny,

936
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: Like I was like, it's just like this, but I

937
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: just I just I just it was it was so

938
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: different from anything I'd heard from the genre that it

939
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 4: was just hard to process. Like I said, but man,

940
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 4: it's I just I honestly can't believe, like to to

941
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: be Kendrick Lamar where he's at and to take a

942
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: risk like this. He's changed every every album, but this

943
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 4: is just such an odd like a hard left turn,

944
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: leaning into a space that it's going to a place

945
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: where nobody's been before and given this to the people.

946
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just special special album. It really didn't

947
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: hit me because I think Sunday I was playing golf

948
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: with my dudes and they were talking shit like I

949
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 4: think like Tuesday or Wednesday was like, but I haven't.

950
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 2: I haven't.

951
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been what's today today?

952
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: It takes.

953
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was yesterday, yesterday when it really really excited

954
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 4: to get it. But I've been able to play anything else.

955
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: I just can't. Like I just keep playing it over

956
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: and over and over in the car. I keep playing

957
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 4: it over and over my headphones.

958
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

959
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: So I love Baby King's spots on it too. I

960
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: like that interlude he had he killed that shit. I

961
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: love that chorus on Happy for Me Killed that ship too,

962
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: because that last.

963
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 4: Album was not it. But King was trying to go

964
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: to an interesting place. So I think the next album

965
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 4: figured out. I think it's kind of like, you know,

966
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: you know, how somebody changes their sound and you know

967
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: the the album they meant to make is an album

968
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: after that album, you know what I mean, when they

969
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: fully understood. I don't think he fully understood where he

970
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: was trying to go, but I think he'll go somewhere special.

971
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 4: I think King is really talented, but Kendrick didn't play around, bro.

972
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 4: He went exactly where he was trying to go because

973
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: he's fucking Ken of Lamar and there's only one of him.

974
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: So all right, that was a great conversation. I need

975
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: you to both stop being intellectuals. For the final segment,

976
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 2: this is talking about well Dix again.

977
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: We leaning right in.

978
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: This is a historical tidbit, but it's the stupidest thing

979
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: we've talked about on the podcast for a minute, and

980
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: so I I just need us to collectively be in

981
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: that place. Have you guys heard of a Greek philosopher

982
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: named Chrysippus.

983
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: Who died laughing, I.

984
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: Gonna get Tyler with like a Greek mythology fact.

985
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna get John. We can get that, Okay,

986
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: you can get me. Okay. Chrysippus was a Greek philosopher

987
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: who was like the second president of the school of Stoicism. Right,

988
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: So there's all these philosophies that have been handed down,

989
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: but back in the day it was like they were

990
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: like it was like a college. You'd be the head

991
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: professor of this whatever. Stoicism is like the idea that

992
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: you should be in control of your emotions and not

993
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: be moved by the things around. Like we still use

994
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: that word. Someone's stoic, right, that's what that makes that right?

995
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: Okay?

996
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: He was, so keep that in mind with his story.

997
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: He was the head of the school of Stoicism at

998
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: the time of his death, and the way he died

999
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: was during the Olympics. He was hosting basically like a

1000
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: watch party. So he's got all these people over, they're

1001
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: all drunk, everyone's having a great time, and there's a

1002
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: donkey loose in his courtyard. And the donkey goes over,

1003
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: which was like at the time, obviously they just had

1004
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: animals walking around and shit. The donkey goes over to

1005
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: a plate full of figs and starts eating the figs,

1006
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: and Chrysippus starts laughing the way that we would laugh

1007
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 2: at the stupidest joke on Jenkins and Jones, the way

1008
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 2: you would laugh at something dumb me your friend said

1009
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: at two thirty wit, he can't breathe.

1010
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 7: He's like, the donkey's eating figs. Look at this donkey

1011
00:46:53,960 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 7: eating pigs. He's he's like laughing on control.

1012
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: Of and then he yells out, now give the donkey

1013
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: a drink of pure wine to wash down the figs.

1014
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: He's laughing at a tweet. He's laughing at the Deans tweet,

1015
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: and he laughed so hard that he literally dies.

1016
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Oh God, the worst joke than I laughing. I mean,

1017
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm just interested, you know. It's that's it's such a

1018
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: boozye joke. Yeah, that's that's just kind of like a

1019
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: nice insight into how humor was so fucking different, you know,

1020
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: thousands of years ago, you know what I mean, Like

1021
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: like like have y'all seen like that. There was like

1022
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: a Sumerian tablet that was found with like a choke

1023
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: on it about a dog version joke. Yeah, yeah, with

1024
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: like a dog walking into a bar and the dog says,

1025
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: I can't see anything. I think I'll open a door.

1026
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: And that's a joke, and it's like, how the fuck

1027
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: is that funny? But it was probably hilarious fucking twenty

1028
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: two hundred pc, you know what I mean. So but

1029
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: either way laughs donkey dying from a donkey n thing?

1030
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't and that she was probably stupid back then,

1031
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: bro anyway around that.

1032
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: But he was with his homies, And I actually think

1033
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: it shows how universal some dumb things are because it

1034
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: is a little bit like Twitter. It's like you're hanging

1035
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: out with your friends laughing at a video of an

1036
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: animal doing something dumb, right, and then it's like you're

1037
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: laughing your friends laughing. You're both making fun of how

1038
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: much the donkey thinks it's a person. Make sure it's

1039
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: got some wine to wash down those thigs, right, that's

1040
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: actually funny to me.

1041
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: That that's that's funny to me though, Like like the

1042
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 4: laughing at the figs, I've been like, I was kind

1043
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: of like, all right, you know what I mean? But

1044
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: that right there, that was funny what he said. Not

1045
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: worth dying over.

1046
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: One of one of my not even close to it,

1047
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: one of my favorite jokes that I ever heard of,

1048
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: And I fucking figuratively died laughing when I first heard it.

1049
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lay it on y'all.

1050
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: It's it's stupid as fuck, it's simple as hell, and

1051
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: it's fucking hilarious.

1052
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: All right. Why did the monkey fall out of the tree?

1053
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: Why because it was dead? I think the visual there too.

1054
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a fucking Norm McDonald joke is

1055
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: what that?

1056
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: I love that. That's like Norm McDonald's theory of the

1057
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: perfect joke is a joke who's set up and punchline

1058
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: are exactly the same. And that was like, I think

1059
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: he said the most perfect joke he felt like he

1060
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: ever told was a weekend up jate joke where he said, uh,

1061
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: Julia Roberts is getting divorced from Lyle love it because

1062
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: she's Julia Roberts.

1063
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: And he's Lyle love It.

1064
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 4: That is perfect.

1065
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: It's like it's the perfect structure of it. That's a

1066
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: perfect Joe.

1067
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so perfect, Joe.

1068
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: I had one that was similar to Tyler's that I

1069
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: really liked that. I just looked up on the ground.

1070
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 5: It was on a birthday card, and I thought it

1071
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 5: was the funniest thing to put on a birthday.

1072
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: It's literally like the birthday card section of the card

1073
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: thing at the store.

1074
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 5: It's it's like the picture of like a philosopher man

1075
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: on the front and says back in my day, we

1076
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 5: didn't need Facebook or Twitter. You open it and it

1077
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 5: says because we all had cholera, that was the news

1078
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: and we didn't need social networking to.

1079
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Tell us that.

1080
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: And I was like, that is the funniest thing every

1081
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 4: birthday exactly.

1082
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: That is so.

1083
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: Because that was the news where liverye today?

1084
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: Right?

1085
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: I just was inspired by the idea that, like, because

1086
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: those are everyone's favorite memories of college or being a

1087
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: young person or whatever, is just laughing at something that, like,

1088
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: you know, is the stupidest thing. You could never explain

1089
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: why it was funny, but you were laughing until you

1090
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: felt like your heart was going to explode. I love it.

1091
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: Three thousand years ago, people's hearts were literally exploding over

1092
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: a shit like that, over.

1093
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: This motherfuckers.

1094
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 7: Learned man, learned man in ancient Greece blue his heart

1095
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 7: up over a donkey eating figs.

1096
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: That's inspirational.

1097
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: I love that he killed himself with one of his

1098
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 4: own jokes, like the get him some wine. That's what.

1099
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of people who laugh at.

1100
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Their own jokes. I think that that ship is hilarious.

1101
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: Be a fan of your own work, bro, for real,

1102
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Be a fan of your own work.

1103
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: All right, that's all the time we have for Jenkins

1104
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: and Jones this week. We will be back on Monday

1105
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: to talk more NBA shooty hoops and maybe we'll find it.

1106
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll find a historical figure that Tyler's not aware of.

1107
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: Good luck, bro, When Tyler told me he would just

1108
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: at work be hitting random on Wikipedia to find I'm like,

1109
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: do not normal, But good luck, bro, I wish you

1110
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: the best.

1111
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: He's different. He's different, definitely, he's built different. All Right,

1112
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: We'll see you all

1113
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Speaker 1: De