Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: And welcome back to another episode of No Sealers Podcast
Speaker 2: with your hosts Now fuck that with your low glasses Malone.
Speaker 1: So you're just gonna get up and leave?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honest to God, Like, did you stop
Speaker 3: me to live in a world where the highst peak
Speaker 3: out in the seventies?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: But isn't that the point of winner?
Speaker 4: To some.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like human beings have an issue where
Speaker 2: they are too scared to migrate? Do you do you
Speaker 2: feel like that, like just from your position and where
Speaker 2: you understand that the American citizen may need to travel
Speaker 2: for a different opportunity or different economic rewards and stuff
Speaker 2: that fit their current standings.
Speaker 5: I think I think that's pretty new.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of new cultra phenomenons that
Speaker 3: come with the comfort of luxury m There really is
Speaker 3: not a history of people not wanting to move around here.
Speaker 5: That's like our generation.
Speaker 2: You know what, you might be right, because I mean
Speaker 2: obviously people wasn't in California and that's how we got
Speaker 2: here in the first place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, californiasa youngstate.
Speaker 6: There were people in California at one time, well, it
Speaker 6: wasn't California when people were here, right, So there was
Speaker 6: nobody in California as far as people like, when it
Speaker 6: was Mexico in Mexico.
Speaker 4: It was never it was California.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it was it wasn't that one time, right, it.
Speaker 3: Was it was Mexico, Mexico for about what seventy five years,
Speaker 3: for a long time.
Speaker 7: That's why all the name that's why. But why where
Speaker 7: do you think they got the names from?
Speaker 1: That's a lot of California definitely sounds Spanish, even.
Speaker 7: When you go to Malibu, uh you know you get something,
Speaker 7: yeah road and like all these yeah San Diego, Santa Monica,
Speaker 7: Santa Fe Springs.
Speaker 1: And Santa st Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 5: I think there aren't a lot of.
Speaker 1: Named places here not Spanish.
Speaker 4: Arizona, that's a good one.
Speaker 7: No, that is probably that might be that actually, if
Speaker 7: it is anything, No, I was going to say, that's
Speaker 7: actually probably indigenous dialect like nawah, yeah, origin at all.
Speaker 3: And we have a lot of places in the US
Speaker 3: where like it's a europeanized version of an indigenous word,
Speaker 3: like Illinois would be like a land of like the
Speaker 3: ALIGNI people like stuff that.
Speaker 7: Well, that's because it's a copy of like, isn't it
Speaker 7: like a copy here in the United States of like
Speaker 7: Britain or England, like they have a Manchester, like we
Speaker 7: have Manchester, New York, New Hampshire, that's New Hampshire.
Speaker 3: Isn't like Mexico is like of the Mexican people Mechica.
Speaker 2: Yes, is that a land or is that Mechica is
Speaker 2: just is just what the people are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of I think a name substituted for.
Speaker 2: As you can think about it, right, because I think
Speaker 2: that'd be the crazy stuff when because like Africa is
Speaker 2: what white people call Africa, that's where the name comes from.
Speaker 4: Sure, So who created Mechica? I think is word?
Speaker 7: I wish I had the homi Aztec treasures here the
Speaker 7: word Mechka comes it's it's it's actually dialect.
Speaker 4: It's it's the meaning of the language.
Speaker 7: So the people of Mechica, if I wish, And I'm
Speaker 7: going to kick my own ass for that, but I
Speaker 7: should have the actual uh knowledge to explain that. But
Speaker 7: Meshika is literally the people like it's just it's a tribe.
Speaker 7: Like what he was about to what he was about
Speaker 7: to say, like I sticka you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So it's the Mehika people because Mexico, like we always said,
Speaker 7: it's not a it's not.
Speaker 4: A race, although people run around like it is.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: Wait, I have a question right now.
Speaker 7: You said about Africa, I asked Manny this early, Actually,
Speaker 7: why do you think people always correlate Africa with being black?
Speaker 4: A lot of people do that.
Speaker 7: I don't because I understand Africa is a huge ass
Speaker 7: continent with a bunch of different shaded people.
Speaker 4: Why do you think people do that.
Speaker 5: It's the only place where people really do that. I
Speaker 5: feel like, well that's not maybe true. Europe's pretty god.
Speaker 2: In Europe too, Yeah, maybe like it's white and it
Speaker 2: was all kinds of people in Europe.
Speaker 3: Right because like anthropologically I picture like people think like, well,
Speaker 3: Egypt people were black because it's Africa, Like I think
Speaker 3: that's more what will be like Middle Eastern type people
Speaker 3: moving westward than necessarily like people like Congolese type people
Speaker 3: moving northward, just based off of the way people move.
Speaker 1: It just depends on how far back were talking.
Speaker 2: I guess we was having a really interesting conversation yesterday.
Speaker 2: I thought you would trip off of We had it
Speaker 2: with the with the with with Reverend Franco too, where
Speaker 2: we were talking about Remember we talked to my my
Speaker 2: uh my West African partner who was a Catholic priest. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so we were talking about Christianity and it was a
Speaker 2: dope conversation because we was comparing it to we were
Speaker 2: comparing it to like the goal of bringing people together
Speaker 2: right where we were saying that like Constantine, you know, right,
Speaker 2: they convened the Nicean Council to define what Christianity became
Speaker 2: today the way we see it today, like they created
Speaker 2: that foundation. And we were talking about the difference obviously
Speaker 2: what's going on in America where Trump is somebody who
Speaker 2: doesn't come from power, He comes from money, right, And
Speaker 2: that's why I called you last night and I was like, like,
Speaker 2: this is the first time somebody with no political experience
Speaker 2: or like military, like no talk coup or talk class
Speaker 2: as we call class really because that's more just conformed
Speaker 2: behavior at a certain elder's level, right.
Speaker 1: And I was explaining to somebody else that.
Speaker 2: Like every social structure or organization of people have a
Speaker 2: behavior that you know that everybody conforms to. This is
Speaker 2: the way he's supposed to behave and Trump is one
Speaker 2: of those people where he came from money, but he
Speaker 2: never really came from power.
Speaker 1: And power has always been able to employ money. I mean,
Speaker 1: excuse me.
Speaker 2: Money has always been able to employ power. But power
Speaker 2: exploits money. And for somebody of his stature to have
Speaker 2: that kind of money to get into a position of power,
Speaker 2: it has to scare old power, which is old money.
Speaker 1: It has to be frightening, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: For more wealthy people in America, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: to realize somebody who they may have looked at within
Speaker 2: their social circles as a as a comrade or as
Speaker 2: a person that's with them, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: versus having somebody who got some money and now he
Speaker 2: don't know how to act correctly based off of you know,
Speaker 2: most lifelong politicians, I mean even commona right there. Those
Speaker 2: are people that have been brought up into politics Rock
Speaker 2: George W.
Speaker 1: Bush, these people have been brought in their.
Speaker 8: Politically dependent Sure, but that's their source of power. Yeah,
Speaker 8: And it's a source of money, which power, right has
Speaker 8: always been able to exploit money. But to watch somebody
Speaker 8: who had money come into power, it's like when it's
Speaker 8: like when the Confederate States of America decided like, oh yeah,
Speaker 8: we don't like what y'all own.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Like we don't like what the Union is on right now,
Speaker 2: So we think we're going to do our own thing
Speaker 2: because now we got money and now we didn't got
Speaker 2: ourselves a source of power. Yeah, so that it is
Speaker 2: interesting to watch them get at it. No Siblings glasses
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Speaker 1: My brother Peter.
Speaker 2: Bosh Newport Beach Crip, my brother Alcuttash from Nadio, my
Speaker 2: brother Tony Nadio. We launching a boxing podcast to go
Speaker 2: to become an accessory accessory compliment to No Seilings podcast
Speaker 2: called Uncle Paul's Podcast.
Speaker 1: Cool Cool, And I feel like it's appropriate to start, you.
Speaker 2: Know, on No Ceilings with the audience that already follows
Speaker 2: us and we have something to talk about because the
Speaker 2: title of this podcast is Conversations where I apologize to
Speaker 2: Jake Paul.
Speaker 3: If I was gonna ask you if for the for
Speaker 3: the live show on Monday tomorrow, if I.
Speaker 5: Could bring Lucias on, that would be dope.
Speaker 3: He hit me up right before the fight started, of course,
Speaker 3: trying to scam me out of money and to try
Speaker 3: to see if I was gonna bet on Tyson against
Speaker 3: him betting on Paul, and he threw together.
Speaker 5: He had like you know here, here's my little quick reason.
Speaker 1: I've watched it.
Speaker 5: I looked at this this this this.
Speaker 3: This is Mike this fight, and I'm like okay, and
Speaker 3: then like an hour later.
Speaker 5: He had lost. So I just talk to him break laws.
Speaker 5: Fractional expanded.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll bring him on on the live stream
Speaker 2: on a lunch hour. First off, I'm gonna start this
Speaker 2: pole by apologizing to Jake Paul. I'm just it's fair, brother,
Speaker 2: because I saw no way he could win the fight.
Speaker 2: I saw no way he could win the fight. It
Speaker 2: was impossible, right, well, everything is possible. And first off,
Speaker 2: just congratulations on a great card. I mean, it was
Speaker 2: a fantastic Their fight was the worst fight. Yeah, their
Speaker 2: worst is They fight was the worst fight. And we're
Speaker 2: gonna get into where I do have critigue for him
Speaker 2: as a promoter and as an entertainer. Now as a boxer,
Speaker 2: I have to apologize because he did everything he needed
Speaker 2: to to.
Speaker 1: Make this fight easy.
Speaker 2: Now, there is a part of Mike Tyson that is
Speaker 2: fifty eight years old, and that means a lot because again,
Speaker 2: now when you take into account, Mike has always been
Speaker 2: this undersized heavyweight that has used his legs to propel
Speaker 2: him into the mix to land his punches. That was
Speaker 2: a huge thing for his speed. So while he maintains
Speaker 2: quickness where he was able to slip a lot of
Speaker 2: Jake Paul shot with Jake Paul did land some even
Speaker 2: though none of them looked like they were close to
Speaker 2: hurt Mike Tyson. I could see the frustration in Mike
Speaker 2: Tyson's face during that fight that he couldn't advance, He
Speaker 2: could not close the distance the way he would obviously
Speaker 2: you know forty years ago.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He couldn't close the distance or the way he could
Speaker 2: ten years ago. Yeah, shout out to Derrick James, gonna
Speaker 2: be a Hall of Fame. Trying to train Earl Spence
Speaker 2: into unified champion, got a couple other champions to train
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcian to win in some important fights. He told me,
Speaker 2: he said, Glasses, the problem with him is his base.
Speaker 2: He like, he lived a really tough life and it
Speaker 2: might have cost him his base. And the more I
Speaker 2: thought about it, Mike Tyceling no, his base, like his waist,
Speaker 2: his lower half. And he said, if you just watch
Speaker 2: him walk, he doesn't have his regular balance. He said,
Speaker 2: Now a lot of people is worried about him getting
Speaker 2: knocked out.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Jake really has that type of power. He said, so
Speaker 2: he said, I agree with you. He said, but it's
Speaker 2: going to be hard for him to do the things
Speaker 2: he needed to do to make it compelling. And he said,
Speaker 2: but again you don't know, you know, we we haven't
Speaker 2: seen him in the fight. So when I watched the
Speaker 2: whole fight, I could see the frustration in Mike Tyson's
Speaker 2: face that he couldn't close that distance to where to
Speaker 2: do was at I.
Speaker 3: Think the one thing we didn't mention the other day
Speaker 3: physically about being fifty eight, Like say, you know, Mike
Speaker 3: at eighteen could go center, left, right center in point
Speaker 3: two seconds. He still goes center right, left center in
Speaker 3: point two seconds, which you really lose the most of
Speaker 3: which is why speed's the first thing to go. But
Speaker 3: your power remains. That's your age is range of motion.
Speaker 3: So that the three steps that used to get him
Speaker 3: the records at eight men, now they're only getting him
Speaker 3: six feet.
Speaker 2: Four feet yeah, you look that way. Yeah, where you
Speaker 2: at with did your ass? I know you feel how
Speaker 2: you feel. But I have to apologize to the man
Speaker 2: because I doubted him and he did what he's supposed
Speaker 2: to do well.
Speaker 7: I mean what it sounds like what you're saying, because
Speaker 7: so you've got saying the things that we saw him
Speaker 7: doing his training, the way he was moving as agile
Speaker 7: as his legs looked in those clips of him, he
Speaker 7: looked his legs look shot in the fight, like he
Speaker 7: just couldn't even move.
Speaker 4: He came out with a knee brace, But I don't
Speaker 4: initially he couldn't.
Speaker 2: Move because I watched him slip so many shots from
Speaker 2: just sure you could see his skill set when it
Speaker 2: was time to defend.
Speaker 1: So let me wrong.
Speaker 2: There were times he wasn't sitting duck because of his inability,
Speaker 2: Like Pete saying, to go from eight foot now, that
Speaker 2: looks like two feet. Yeah, I mean he can't go
Speaker 2: eight feet in point two seconds. Now, that's only two feet.
Speaker 2: So you could see his advances coming, but you could
Speaker 2: see his he ain't at a complete loss of range
Speaker 2: of motion because you can see when he's slipping.
Speaker 5: He slipped a lot of really good shot though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but when I'm looking at him training and he's
Speaker 7: throwing those three, four, five, six punch combinations, where it
Speaker 7: was at in the fight, he had moments where he
Speaker 7: was in his face.
Speaker 1: No he did not, No, he did not.
Speaker 3: And that's another thing with range emotion's upper body too.
Speaker 3: So what used to be, you know, a radius of
Speaker 3: X is now point eight x.
Speaker 5: A little more rigid, so.
Speaker 1: You gotta be all it's all top half now mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: So I agree.
Speaker 2: I saw him in the training like, right, and when
Speaker 2: it was in front of him, obviously.
Speaker 1: It's you could see Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2: But the thing that made Mike Tyson also Mike Tyson
Speaker 2: was you could be six foot four and he would
Speaker 2: still get to you instantly, right. And that's where Jake's
Speaker 2: team gambled and got it correct. They they bet on
Speaker 2: his inability to advance at a decent speed. But again,
Speaker 2: I can't take it from Jake Paul that he made
Speaker 2: sure that he stayed where he needed to stay at
Speaker 2: Because boxing is a sport of distance, like most sports,
Speaker 2: right where it's all about spacing.
Speaker 1: He kept a.
Speaker 2: Really what's the right word, A really there was a
Speaker 2: race spaced away. Yeah, Yeah, it was he he kept
Speaker 2: He made sure Mike Tyson was not going to be
Speaker 2: able to be closed.
Speaker 4: Couldn't he beat Roy Jones now and Lennox Lewis.
Speaker 2: No, No, only because everybody's gonna make this loss about age,
Speaker 2: and don't let me wrong. Mike Tyson is fifty eight
Speaker 2: and why he lost is part of the reason is
Speaker 2: because he's fifty eight and his ability to close distance.
Speaker 2: But it's different when you got people who don't need
Speaker 2: to close distance. It's different when somebody Mike Tyson who
Speaker 2: has a seventy one inch reach in Lennox Lewis, who
Speaker 2: probably got an eighty three inch reach.
Speaker 4: So you guys actually believe that Mike just couldn't do it. Nah,
Speaker 4: he couldn't, Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in his mind he knows.
Speaker 3: One, two, three, four means this is gonna happen, and
Speaker 3: he was doing that wonder before the movement's happening. It's
Speaker 3: all happening, and it's six into short now exactly.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's a great point. He was just short, and it
Speaker 2: looked you could see it when he was swing. You
Speaker 2: could see it when he would swing and he would
Speaker 2: be too far away and he's like you can see
Speaker 2: it in his face when he's like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is going on? H Like I saw it in his
Speaker 2: face where it was like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: Like why is this boy so far? And obviously the
Speaker 2: ring was huge. Yeah, it might have been a twenty
Speaker 2: six twenty eight foot ring. That ring was big, or
Speaker 2: maybe it's a twenty four and it's just white, but
Speaker 2: that ring was huge. Right, So you know, Jake put
Speaker 2: himself in position as a boxer to be the first
Speaker 2: Battle Hall of Famer, even at the age of fifty eight,
Speaker 2: for somebody who again is at best a novice boxer,
Speaker 2: not a contender, not a true a lifelong pupil of
Speaker 2: the sport.
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, he put himself in a really good position.
Speaker 2: So I gotta apologize because you know, I thought to myself.
Speaker 4: That there's no way he could do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously I really I think that, But that
Speaker 2: that has less to do with how good he actually
Speaker 2: is and more to do about us overestimating Mike.
Speaker 4: So I'd rather say that because I keep talking about
Speaker 4: Canelo and this and that.
Speaker 7: Look, man, you know, and then you got people actually, oh,
Speaker 7: you know Canelo, you know he might actually be able
Speaker 7: to get Canelo.
Speaker 3: I'm like, if he wants to ruin Canelo's career just
Speaker 3: to make the fight happen at heavyweight, that would be
Speaker 3: funny because he with Roy Jones Kenel, then canelos old
Speaker 3: he put saw thirty pounds.
Speaker 5: He tries to take it back off shit and that's
Speaker 5: the end of it.
Speaker 2: He probably wouldn't fight no more after he fart him
Speaker 2: anyway I would, I mean, but I have to apologize again, Like, yes,
Speaker 2: there's a part of it that obviously I overestimated where
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson was at fifty eight, and not even overestimated.
Speaker 2: I forgot exactly what Mike used to do because I
Speaker 2: was so spoiled by watching him do it for years
Speaker 2: on top of years where he was able just to
Speaker 2: close the distance even with.
Speaker 1: His underside side.
Speaker 2: There were moments in that fight, bro where you could
Speaker 2: see Jake trying to punch with Mike Tyson and Mike
Speaker 2: would just counter him, like you could see the IQ
Speaker 2: a mile away where it was probably five or six
Speaker 2: times where Jake was still too close, he didn't have
Speaker 2: the correct spacing and he tried to punch and Mike's
Speaker 2: slip encounter I saw that up close and personal.
Speaker 3: I figured if Mike was gonna win, it was going
Speaker 3: to be something that would have been equivalent to that
Speaker 3: sixth round buster Douglas knockdown, where there was a little
Speaker 3: bit of lapse in the consideration of by Jake of
Speaker 3: where exactly he was and Mike just caught him.
Speaker 2: And hence, right, this is the greater conversation. So where
Speaker 2: there is an apology, right, there is critigue. Right, It's
Speaker 2: like now very much, this is a sporting event, but
Speaker 2: this is an entertainment event. So Mike Tyson, what's a
Speaker 2: fair number. None of us are boxing professionals, none of
Speaker 2: us been punched by Mike Tyson. But I would imagine
Speaker 2: at this point in his career he's probably punching a
Speaker 2: lot closer to seventy eight seventy to eighty percent of
Speaker 2: his full power right just at age just well now
Speaker 2: having his legs that alone, after roughly eight minutes of
Speaker 2: a fight or ten minutes of a fight, where's his
Speaker 2: punching power forty fifty percent?
Speaker 5: Probably around there sixth seventh.
Speaker 2: Round, Jake Paul should have went and made a better product. Right,
Speaker 2: where you get in a little closer, you start to
Speaker 2: fight and start to figure out exactly where you're at,
Speaker 2: versus kind of taking this route of where you can
Speaker 2: see this man can't reach you, and you kind of
Speaker 2: staying right there. It leaves a door open to where
Speaker 2: it's like, I can already see there's going to be
Speaker 2: a lie that he took it easy.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that yet, but I'm sure that's coming.
Speaker 4: He already said it in the post press conference.
Speaker 1: You mean this that?
Speaker 4: Oh is it? Do you think you took it a
Speaker 4: little bit easy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: There was definitely moments where I took it easy, like.
Speaker 2: I don't believe. And that's the point I can see.
Speaker 2: I can see to some degree that that would become
Speaker 2: his thought. But the reality is he didn't want to
Speaker 2: make an entertaining product at the chances of winning, and
Speaker 2: that's where I think his or at the chances of
Speaker 2: losing losing rather yeah, right, or winning in devastating fashion.
Speaker 5: Sure, I took it easy, meaning I didn't give him
Speaker 5: by all. And I took it easy meaning I have
Speaker 5: taken more risk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Hold on, let me ask you some question.
Speaker 7: So compy Box says that Mike threw eighteen punches the
Speaker 7: entire fight. Did at any point did anybody see Mike
Speaker 7: Like I didn't even see him try to like attempt
Speaker 7: to swing with like all his might, like how we've
Speaker 7: seen Mike do that.
Speaker 1: Usually we see him swinging when he's close to somebody.
Speaker 2: Mike is able to see where Jake is at.
Speaker 3: And Mike's activity level has been precipitously falling down since
Speaker 3: the eighties. I mean, like go back at like one
Speaker 3: of the it's the shittiest fight in the world ever,
Speaker 3: but it's entertaining because because of the dynamic impact of
Speaker 3: every punch that was thrown. But like Tyson Ruddick too,
Speaker 3: they threw like six punches around in that fight. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they leaned on each other, they would move back, they
Speaker 3: would get loose and just try to I mean, each
Speaker 3: one of those guys will try to end the fight
Speaker 3: with each individual punch that was thrown, and it didn't
Speaker 3: throw out of them. And that that's kind of how Mike,
Speaker 3: other than a couple of little tomato cans after President,
Speaker 3: I mean, he really was not anywhere near as active
Speaker 3: as he was. I mean, his jab hasn't been He
Speaker 3: hasn't thrown a jab since like the Reagan administration.
Speaker 1: He threw a jab in this fight. That's fun.
Speaker 4: That was in the first round.
Speaker 1: Jab when that was his first one, first one, he
Speaker 1: hit the fucking jab. But again that's why I give
Speaker 1: some credit and.
Speaker 2: I have to apologize to Jake Paul right, even his
Speaker 2: you know, low level of box and acumen made him
Speaker 2: understand to you spacing that whole fight not not not
Speaker 2: obviously it's too flaw because there is an entertaining part
Speaker 2: of this product that needs to happen. But he made
Speaker 2: sure he stayed far enough away to where Mike couldn't
Speaker 2: put himself in position to make it a fight. And
Speaker 2: that's the only thing. Once you get into the sixth
Speaker 2: and seventh round, you know, some of his power is gone,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Now it's time to make
Speaker 2: a product because every other card on the fight was incredible,
Speaker 2: and it was a really as a boxing fan, like
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of boxing, that was really special
Speaker 2: for everybody. You know, the first three fights, you know
Speaker 2: the YouTube, the YouTubers fight, That fight was entertaining. The
Speaker 2: fight with Vargas is that No, that was Jesse Vargas. No,
Speaker 2: you're talking about Mario Barrios Mario Barrio. Excuse me, that
Speaker 2: was a great fight, right that draw the women, that
Speaker 2: was probably the greatest woman's professional boxing match of all time.
Speaker 1: That is going to win Fight of the Year.
Speaker 7: I have the equivalent of those two women are the
Speaker 7: equivalent of Gotti Ward. Those are the women Gotty Ward.
Speaker 2: Except they're both champions and future Hall of famers, versus
Speaker 2: where Ward was like this journeyman that for some reason
Speaker 2: brought this that made a fight tough for Gotti every time.
Speaker 2: But we got like the Fight of the Year candidate
Speaker 2: at a fight that probably had fifty million people around
Speaker 2: the world watching it, fifty million households, so he could
Speaker 2: be somewhere near two hundred million people that have watched
Speaker 2: that fight, and women's boxing was able to carry the
Speaker 2: entertainment portion of that card to where they got to
Speaker 2: the main event, and that fight ended up being bad,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, not just because you didn't
Speaker 2: watch a masterclass that Jake put on as much as
Speaker 2: you looked at Mike Tyson like, oh man, my boy
Speaker 2: is finally you know, it's finally at his WIT's end,
Speaker 2: Like it's over, I mean, you know now it's over,
Speaker 2: Versus where you was like well, maybe Jake can do
Speaker 2: some special things. I mean, you didn't leave that fight
Speaker 2: thinking that, And I think he kind of blew it
Speaker 2: when he had the opportunities in the sixth and seventh
Speaker 2: round to kind of make it a challenge, to make
Speaker 2: it to go in there and get the experience of
Speaker 2: being in there with a pro, you know, even on
Speaker 2: the inside again because it is Mike Tyson at fifty eight,
Speaker 2: and it is Mike Tyson, but you do what you'd
Speaker 2: have to take a couple of risks to make an
Speaker 2: entertaining product on his part of the card, on him
Speaker 2: carrying his part of the car, but as a whole,
Speaker 2: his event was successful. So like I have to apologize
Speaker 2: because I never saw it any way he would be
Speaker 2: able to.
Speaker 1: To be Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2: But again, you know, I could take trash route where
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you know, I definitely overrated where Mike
Speaker 2: was at and what he was gonna be able to
Speaker 2: doing that fight.
Speaker 1: But there were certain things that Jake did.
Speaker 2: To me as a as a novice boxer right to
Speaker 2: some degree right that I was like, okay.
Speaker 7: We've been saying that about that guy that he does train.
Speaker 7: He trained seriously the only the only real you know,
Speaker 7: uh issue when when coaches here was that you said
Speaker 7: was basically like he just ain't fought no real boxers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean.
Speaker 7: We've been saying he could fight, that's why he's knocking
Speaker 7: out the guys he's knocking out. But then when he
Speaker 7: fights somebody like a Tom Fury, then then it becomes
Speaker 7: a lot harder.
Speaker 4: So now I mean what I this is what I
Speaker 4: don't get. I mean, well maybe I do, and I
Speaker 4: don't get it.
Speaker 7: It's basically he doesn't do it because he knows it's
Speaker 7: going to be harder, right, and then if he if
Speaker 7: he does do it, maybe it's not as big of
Speaker 7: a spectacle because he's not gonna get names that people
Speaker 7: care about. So it's more about the money. And that's
Speaker 7: I think what you were saying last time, like he's
Speaker 7: more about the spectacle.
Speaker 4: So while he does know.
Speaker 7: How to box, he's not really chasing greatness of boxing.
Speaker 4: And that's where it becomes like, well what are you
Speaker 4: doing then?
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a prize fighter nonetheless, but you know,
Speaker 2: sure he's.
Speaker 1: Not a career boxer, so how great could he be?
Speaker 1: No mineus?
Speaker 2: How he's selling the idea you know, it's obvious he's
Speaker 2: fighting for prizes, so he's putting together the best prizes.
Speaker 1: Pete. Can he be but nor Hopkins.
Speaker 3: I don't know where Bernard Hopkins is at this point
Speaker 3: in his life. And that's kind of like I don't
Speaker 3: know where Roy Jones is the point in his life.
Speaker 3: I mean, like some of the recent little you know,
Speaker 3: Shenanigan things he did, he looks old and tired and
Speaker 3: and Roy I thought was more reliant upon quickness than
Speaker 3: fundamentals throughout his career than Mike was even in his
Speaker 3: professional career. When it went for Roy, it went saying.
Speaker 2: You're saying, Mike Tyson may still be more skilled than
Speaker 2: Roy Jones Jr. Yeah, absolutely definitely knows more about boxing
Speaker 2: than Roy Jones.
Speaker 1: I would imagine.
Speaker 3: I just think he I think he's relying upon more
Speaker 3: endurant fundamentals.
Speaker 5: I mean Roy.
Speaker 3: It when it went for Roy, when he was no
Speaker 3: longer Roy Jones, it was bad.
Speaker 2: But even then it still wouldn't be most fighters could
Speaker 2: beat him. You had to be still somewhat short experience
Speaker 2: cut of special fighter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but fifteen years ago, true, can he beat Lennox
Speaker 1: Lewis at Wimbley a six foot four Lennox Lewis.
Speaker 3: That that's to me where you start to get into
Speaker 3: problems when when you're now starting a seed.
Speaker 5: Physical advantages reach, height, reach.
Speaker 2: So even though he's a year older than Mike, even
Speaker 2: though its a year older than Mike Tyson, you don't
Speaker 2: have the height in the reach advantage over at, Lennox Lewis.
Speaker 5: You don't have the spacing advantage.
Speaker 1: How Yeah, you have to use speed to get in
Speaker 1: and out.
Speaker 2: Speed pray lennyx Lewis And nine, Yeah, you can't catch
Speaker 2: you coming in or moving out?
Speaker 4: How big is Jake Paul? With Paul? What is he like?
Speaker 1: Sixty one?
Speaker 4: Okay? How heavy is he on the regular?
Speaker 7: I know he came in for this fight very heavy,
Speaker 7: but he looked.
Speaker 5: He was fighting cruiser.
Speaker 2: Waits before this he was fighting he was fighting light
Speaker 2: right here, he's fighting one seventy five. He might've been
Speaker 2: fighting cruiser because Tom Ferry probably is a cruiser.
Speaker 4: What about him versus nineties said? Who what about him?
Speaker 4: Versus Zerto?
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. You can't put him in with a chance,
Speaker 1: you know what is not all?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: This is kind of you know how you see like
Speaker 3: really good three point shooters in basketball, like you know,
Speaker 3: Curry and guys who have been playing a perimeter skill
Speaker 3: set since they were kids, and then comparing them to
Speaker 3: a big man who was a post player college big
Speaker 3: man and at the NCAA level. But they know, Okay,
Speaker 3: now you're in the NBA. You have to develop a
Speaker 3: perimeter game in your twenties. You can be effective in
Speaker 3: that environment, but you're not going to go to the
Speaker 3: three point shootout and stand next to those other guys
Speaker 3: and get rapid fire power because it's just not you know,
Speaker 3: the the brain development growth curve. You got into it
Speaker 3: way too flatten the curve, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: What could he fight then? Him versus Danny Garcia.
Speaker 1: Danny is one hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Danny might be too like Danny is too fresh.
Speaker 2: Like okay, like Jake Paul is still somebody who doesn't
Speaker 2: look okay, let's start here. There is a version of
Speaker 2: people that want to see him get murdered. So they
Speaker 2: want to put him in with the hardest fight. And
Speaker 2: we got to remember he doesn't have twenty fights total
Speaker 2: his whole life. So it's look, I get the disrespect,
Speaker 2: I feel the insults of him, you know, taking advantage
Speaker 2: of older USC fighters even though he's training in boxing,
Speaker 2: But there is a value to it because he's fighting fighters.
Speaker 2: Him fighting Nate Robinson is another athlete, even him fighting
Speaker 2: old Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1: I get the disdain that people would have for him, But.
Speaker 2: Now let's really see where he can be at based
Speaker 2: off of his business premise, how he wants to market
Speaker 2: and puts on shows. He wants to put on big shows.
Speaker 2: So my whole thing is why he keep fighting old
Speaker 2: USC fighters when you can fight old first Battle Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame boxers, like, there are fights to be made
Speaker 2: for him, like Oscar de la Joya is a fight
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 3: Do you like the Oscar de la Hoya straight up fight?
Speaker 3: But both of them wear dresses? Idea that I had?
Speaker 1: Where do you keep? I don't like that? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: Be gonna come to La and Oscar gonna ship man.
Speaker 3: Oscar can't even see me from the see me from
Speaker 3: the house to the driveway.
Speaker 5: His state is so big he would needoculous to see
Speaker 5: me from.
Speaker 2: Okay, he needs to fight cruiser weights and heavyweights right
Speaker 2: because he's not gonna be able to come too much lower,
Speaker 2: or he needs guys that can go up from one
Speaker 2: sixty to to you know, sid to him.
Speaker 4: I have one. I'm sorry, I have one I've met.
Speaker 4: I thought about this the other day. G Jake Paul
Speaker 4: versus Triple G.
Speaker 7: Triple G's old enough, he's retired, but he's not that
Speaker 7: far removed. And that's one hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 5: Not that scary a hitter either, And he's.
Speaker 4: One hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 1: No, that's way too far, you know what.
Speaker 5: I think it would have to be something like it would.
Speaker 1: Have to grow Washington.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he has a lot of physical advantages. He's
Speaker 4: taller than Triple G. He has a longer reach than
Speaker 4: Triple G, and he would outweigh.
Speaker 1: Him at Triple G is probably the same height. No,
Speaker 1: he's not.
Speaker 4: He's like five to eleven and you just said he's
Speaker 4: six to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're close enough. It's Triple G.
Speaker 4: Retire, five years retired.
Speaker 3: That would be an interesting fight because it's one where
Speaker 3: Jake would be made to look at the idiot.
Speaker 5: But he probably wouldn't get hurt that bad.
Speaker 2: Yes, but he probably would get hurt that bad. Well,
Speaker 2: let's find out. No, that's too far. Let's back it up.
Speaker 2: Let's back it up. Let's triple g. People keep saying
Speaker 2: andre What I'm like, Bro, that's way too far, Like,
Speaker 2: that's way too far out there, Like you're not going
Speaker 2: to beat andre Ward in your thirteenth or fourteen fight.
Speaker 1: And andre Ward is forty.
Speaker 7: I got it, Joe Kalzaki, that's why we want to.
Speaker 1: The other day.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Jo, and Joe Kazaki is a drunk
Speaker 2: even better than what about What about him and Carl
Speaker 2: Frotch at Wimbley.
Speaker 4: That'd be hard.
Speaker 2: Carl Froch Ye, Carl Froch light heavyweight right, he started
Speaker 2: at super middle once, dad, I think he fought light
Speaker 2: heavyweight once.
Speaker 1: Seventy five.
Speaker 2: Carl Frot's probably been out the ring every bit of
Speaker 2: six seven years. Carl Foxx not quite fifty, probably a
Speaker 2: lot closer to like forty one at Wimbley.
Speaker 3: Now we need somebody who at the very least is
Speaker 3: accidentally getting those pre AARP leaflets in the mail, Like
Speaker 3: you're not quite fifty five yet, but you will be soon,
Speaker 3: so don't forget about the ARP.
Speaker 2: That's kelsay, Carl Froch is too young. Exact what I'm
Speaker 2: saying because is forty seven. Yeah, that could be dangerous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not a fight, this fight in a life.
Speaker 2: What about Shannon Briggs? What about the hemmy Shannon and
Speaker 2: Cannon Let's go champ.
Speaker 5: How old is here?
Speaker 2: Shannon Briggs is probably fifty three, he's up there, but
Speaker 2: Shannon Briggs is probably six four, right, Shannon.
Speaker 4: Big at about two sixty.
Speaker 2: Shannon is a big old boy. Is that a big
Speaker 2: is that? That might be a big event because Shannon
Speaker 2: Briggs can promote a fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shannon is fifty two.
Speaker 2: Uh, you could probably set out Madison Square Garden got
Speaker 2: an eighty inch reach.
Speaker 1: He about sixty four. I don't know if that.
Speaker 7: How about He's like, like I seen rock mind Maybe yeah,
Speaker 7: but I don't think it does good.
Speaker 2: Still need to promote the event, Yeah anymore so I
Speaker 2: like about what I like about Carl Frotz. You can
Speaker 2: do that in Australia. You do David two. In Australia,
Speaker 2: you could do Carl Frodzie. England, you could do Lenox Lewis.
Speaker 2: I just think Lennox Lewis, even at fifty nine, is
Speaker 2: just that's a lot. But to me, that's the kind
Speaker 2: of fight it needs to be. He can't do Vitally
Speaker 2: of Vladimir.
Speaker 3: Right, No, no, no, that you're wrong. And here's why.
Speaker 3: Who's a big time fight promoter, Donald Trump? Now, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on, this is there's a little there's a little
Speaker 3: nuance to this. Vitally has a governmental adjacent position in
Speaker 3: the Ukraine.
Speaker 5: So we promote this.
Speaker 3: As the war ending negotiation between Zolenski, Putin and Trump,
Speaker 3: and they preempted with the Klitschko Paul fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but does can he be in a ring with
Speaker 1: a six foot seven heavyweight even at fifty four?
Speaker 3: It gives the Ukrainians something to feel good about when
Speaker 3: they have to, you know, surrender shortly thereafter.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I don't know, he's not Look, you know,
Speaker 9: if I want to see fighting six for seven even
Speaker 9: though Batality been out the ring for ten years in
Speaker 9: his fifties.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jake's not looking to fight anyone in his caliber
Speaker 7: of height and physicality.
Speaker 4: He's not well.
Speaker 2: I think I think he's trying to match himself against
Speaker 2: guys that he has the advantage of. What I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I would rather it be against hall of fame boxers.
Speaker 1: So he gets experienced. I don't want to get him killed.
Speaker 2: Yet I enjoyed what he's Unlike a lot of pure boxing,
Speaker 2: I enjoy what he's doing for the sport. I think
Speaker 2: he's rebirthing it on a very mainstream level. People are
Speaker 2: able to get into it. And again Serranto, people talking
Speaker 2: about boxing, I never heard talk about boxing, right Soroano.
Speaker 1: So she got a lot of new fans.
Speaker 2: Katie Taylor from Ireland, she's a fantastic fighter, gold miler,
Speaker 2: she got a new fans.
Speaker 1: Like this is good.
Speaker 2: Like I'm okay with what he's doing for the sport.
Speaker 2: I'm not hypercritical because he's not. He's not he's not
Speaker 2: a true hugolist like he's not. That's not what he's
Speaker 2: been doing. He's still somebody who likes the sport and
Speaker 2: decided to take it on to keep entertaining. So I'm
Speaker 2: saying we should match him in fights that you know
Speaker 2: he can possibly win. I don't think he can beat.
Speaker 4: For tally, put him against Charvis Jr.
Speaker 1: See that's a great fighter. That's a great fight.
Speaker 2: That's a great fight anywhere you do it at that
Speaker 2: that fight sells out Vegas, and to me, that probably
Speaker 2: should be the fight.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But that's a real fight.
Speaker 4: And I think he could. I think Ja could win
Speaker 4: that one. He's skilled enough. I'd like to see it.
Speaker 4: How much might might have not done enough?
Speaker 1: Jr.
Speaker 2: Is big, He's like he's got about the same height.
Speaker 5: Oh so he takes after his mother.
Speaker 2: The facts, facts, facts, Julio size.
Speaker 1: Julio says. The Chavis Junior is thirty eight.
Speaker 2: His last fight was, Oh no, he just fall in
Speaker 2: July twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has got.
Speaker 5: Thirty eight fought recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just that could be a knockout. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: that's the kind of fight. I agree, that's actually the
Speaker 2: perfect fight, Julio says. It Chavez Junior versus Jake Paul.
Speaker 2: That sells out any arena on the West coast, right,
Speaker 2: it brings everybody out. You get, Julio says, the Chavis Senior.
Speaker 2: In the promotions, y'all make some money. But that's a
Speaker 2: winnable fight. Is that the right next fight? Do you
Speaker 2: favorite Jaking that fight?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Do you favorite Jaking that fight? No favor him?
Speaker 5: But how many how many fights has Junior fought?
Speaker 1: A lot? Probably somewhere near fifty or sixty. Oh, shit.
Speaker 4: No, he's a real Jake's a real boxer. Put him
Speaker 4: in with a real boxer.
Speaker 1: Bro, you just want to get him killed. I just
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not he doesn't have sixty.
Speaker 7: I took it easy on Mike, and you know he's
Speaker 7: he's he's a master boxer.
Speaker 2: He's ready to fight Canelo. All the things he said, Well,
Speaker 2: that's just promotion. We know he can't fight Canelo.
Speaker 4: Bro, it's not just promotion. I think he really believes this.
Speaker 1: Sure, you got to be great, you have to be like.
Speaker 5: Canelo twenty eight. He's got a puncher's chance there.
Speaker 1: He has no chance there.
Speaker 7: We can't well, we can't believe with Jesus because he
Speaker 7: said he had no chance to be mine.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's fifty or sixty new pounds of Canilo.
Speaker 1: But that Canelo not even gonna put that much weight
Speaker 1: on to whoop his ass.
Speaker 5: He gonna whoop with a forty.
Speaker 2: Pounds whooping man once said he fire, it'd be one
Speaker 2: eighty in the ring, whooping the ship out of him.
Speaker 2: That would be It's just different, like right, trash, I
Speaker 2: did not see one percent. I think I did it
Speaker 2: with three percent. I was wrong, but that don't mean
Speaker 2: I'm wrong most of the time, and I'm definitely not
Speaker 2: gonna be wrong. If he started playing with that man
Speaker 2: from from Senner Load Dog, He's gonna have a problem.
Speaker 4: What about Floyd versus Jake now, since he already fought Logan, but.
Speaker 1: Floyd can't fight that being.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about? Logan's bigger than Jake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he can't fight.
Speaker 4: That be and.
Speaker 5: Could beat him with fifty pounds you know, deficit.
Speaker 2: I guess, so Floyd could beat him with that too,
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be good. It'll be a big fight
Speaker 2: to something, but he gonna lose the fight. He's not
Speaker 2: gonna be Floyd maker.
Speaker 3: Floyd fight sucked to watch in general. To amplify how
Speaker 3: not exciting to the average viewer of Floyd fighters. With
Speaker 3: this factor, it would be just a giant.
Speaker 1: The thing is, Jake couldn't make it.
Speaker 2: Floyd makes great fights when somebody know how to make
Speaker 2: him fight, like Mike Donna the first time, right, But
Speaker 2: Jake Paul could make Floyd fight.
Speaker 5: What if he fought that Irish guy that Floyd.
Speaker 7: Irish, the Italian guy, the one you mean, John Gotti,
Speaker 7: the third No, the Irish.
Speaker 3: Guy from end of the day who fought Floyd hung
Speaker 3: out Connor McGregor.
Speaker 4: That'd be interesting he beat up Connor though probably I
Speaker 4: don't know Connor real that man.
Speaker 1: I mean, that could be a cool follow I.
Speaker 5: Think that's the fight.
Speaker 3: I think that's the fight if if if I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna get Kalazaki.
Speaker 5: You might as well give me McGregor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Connor McGregor going up to two hundred pounds
Speaker 2: one night, nine and five eight, Connor and Floyd was
Speaker 2: almost the same side. I mean, it'll it'll do good business,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't give him respect if he beats Connor McGregor.
Speaker 2: If he was able to get in with a Julio
Speaker 2: Says or Travis Junior, I would look at even this
Speaker 2: version of Julio Says and Travis Junior at thirty seven
Speaker 2: thirty eight, I would give him a lot more credits,
Speaker 2: like as a boxer, because I think there's a level
Speaker 2: of him that Understan He's making entertaining events that make
Speaker 2: him money, but then he still is pursuing some level
Speaker 2: of credibility, so he can't fight up and coming boxers
Speaker 2: and make a bunch of money.
Speaker 1: Right to go the long way, the way a boxer
Speaker 1: would go.
Speaker 3: So instead of going instead of fighting his way up
Speaker 3: the hill, he's fighting his way down.
Speaker 1: Down the hill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going from instead of going from south to north,
Speaker 2: like most fighters, you go from north to south to
Speaker 2: you get where you got enough fights in right trash
Speaker 2: to finally fight a good fighter that's not quite a
Speaker 2: great fighter, because him beating a champion is like, man,
Speaker 2: he needs some stuff to happen.
Speaker 4: Okay, well then just let's do what you had said
Speaker 4: him versus James Tony Woo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know if that sales. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a good fight though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well would sell, but I mean again, that's definitely
Speaker 7: not safe.
Speaker 5: At this point.
Speaker 3: There's only two things that can sell, and once you
Speaker 3: fought Mike Tyson, if we're talking about selling, maybe there's
Speaker 3: three or four names, or there's selling. We all get
Speaker 3: to watch this guy get his head knocked off.
Speaker 1: That's it. But that's the thought.
Speaker 2: The thought is putting yourself in a position where people
Speaker 2: think you're gonna get your head knocked off, but you
Speaker 2: actually don't. Right, So there's more than listen, it's hard
Speaker 2: for him to make another fight like Mike Tyson. That's
Speaker 2: gonna be virtually it's really hard, right, But again, you
Speaker 2: could do Lennox Lewis or Carl Froch at Wembley, you
Speaker 2: would do ninety thousand people.
Speaker 1: You would do well. Could he beat either one of
Speaker 1: those guys? Is he the favorite against Carl Froch? Probably not?
Speaker 2: Who is he the favorite against? That's the legitimate fighter.
Speaker 2: It should be a legitimate fighter. Connor McGregor obviously is
Speaker 2: easy pickings. But Connor McGregor is five eight, so he
Speaker 2: still wouldn't earn legitimacy because it's Connor McGregor.
Speaker 1: But again, who are those.
Speaker 2: On the outside of boxing? Julio says, Junior, you get
Speaker 2: the Julio says, our name. That's everything. That Chaves name
Speaker 2: is everything, like when you got the Fury name. To me,
Speaker 2: that's what he looks for. He looks for the brand
Speaker 2: of the name, right because his biggest fight is with
Speaker 2: Tom Fury, because of Tyson Fury. You know, that's Tyson
Speaker 2: Fury's brother.
Speaker 7: I think after after beating Mike, it's it's David Tua
Speaker 7: fifty one years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're gonna go set out in Australia.
Speaker 4: I think Jake sells out anywhere where they're making it seem.
Speaker 1: No, that's not true.
Speaker 3: I think you need to beat the man to beat
Speaker 3: the man. Yeah, you beat Mike, Now, you gotta fight
Speaker 3: Bussey Douglas exactly.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 4: Well, that's not fair. Then he needs to fight Evander Holyfield,
Speaker 4: he needs to fight.
Speaker 1: He's can he beat Evander Holyfield right now?
Speaker 3: I think Evander is in really bad shape. I I
Speaker 3: think probably wouldn't that fight?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: What's the last dude that beat Mike Tyson? The white dude?
Speaker 1: Kevin McBride, He can't be Kevin McBride.
Speaker 5: Well why not?
Speaker 1: Kevin McBride really can fight.
Speaker 3: McBride's like forty eight and he's probably three hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty pounds today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you can't sell the fight with Kevin McBride.
Speaker 4: Is you know how you sell it? Yes, you can.
Speaker 7: You sell it as I beat I beat Mike. Now
Speaker 7: I'm going to beat the guy that beat Mike.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no not. I don't think that's gonna work
Speaker 1: with Kevin McBride.
Speaker 2: People feel like Mike Tyson took a bribe in that fight.
Speaker 2: They don't even realize Kevin McBride was six six.
Speaker 1: That beat him.
Speaker 3: We're failing to address the most intriguing aspect of this
Speaker 3: entire charade here, And that was probably one of the
Speaker 3: most comedically brilliant production sequences of less than ten seconds
Speaker 3: in length that I have ever seen, and that being
Speaker 3: my ass cheek's interview in the locker room?
Speaker 5: Pretty what do you predict? A vicious win?
Speaker 3: And then he kisses the guy who says I love
Speaker 3: him back, and he walks off with his bare ass out.
Speaker 3: That was the funniest sequence of ten seconds of video ever.
Speaker 1: A Netflix struck gold with me.
Speaker 4: You know that was his son, right, I didn't know
Speaker 4: who it was. That's his son.
Speaker 5: I don't know Mike had a son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike has a lot of kids.
Speaker 4: Man, Mike got a few kids.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I didn't know who was I never saw
Speaker 3: the face. I always saw that short look clip.
Speaker 7: Oh, No, that's that's the son that was interviewing him.
Speaker 7: I guess his son is doing commentating.
Speaker 1: That's yeah.
Speaker 2: So who is his next fight? Let's let's all talk
Speaker 2: about who his next fight is. Who is Jake's Who
Speaker 2: is his next fight? Give me give me a fight
Speaker 2: that he can be a favorite in or or it
Speaker 2: could be pretty much close to being a favorite, and
Speaker 2: it's still a name that will sell fights, but it
Speaker 2: has to be a boxer.
Speaker 4: It could be a UFC fight him versus George Masterdal.
Speaker 1: That's a big name.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the next fight George Masterdal. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know who that is.
Speaker 7: Oh, you're crazy. That's a big fight, though, George. So
Speaker 7: I'll tell you and you're gonna know exactly who. George
Speaker 7: Masterdal was a little Puerto Rican dude. They used to
Speaker 7: fight on the undercards of Kimbo Slice in the backyards
Speaker 7: and you've seen him. He had a ponytail. You never
Speaker 7: watched those backyard fights when.
Speaker 1: Watched the opener to a backyard fight, No, no.
Speaker 7: No, it wasn't all he said undercard because he was
Speaker 7: like the first person that Kimbo actually promoted outside of
Speaker 7: his own fights.
Speaker 4: So it was never like a card.
Speaker 7: He just had this dude fight and and that dude,
Speaker 7: George ended up being a guy that ended up being
Speaker 7: some ship in the UFC.
Speaker 1: But George can fight, So that's the fight he's gonna fight.
Speaker 4: But he's also kind of almost retired as well. If
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 7: Uh, he might not even be that old, but you know,
Speaker 7: and by fighting years, he's probably like fifty.
Speaker 3: Shit and bare knuckle backyard fighting years. I don't know how,
Speaker 3: I don't know how many of those he actually did pick.
Speaker 3: George Masado, Mm hmm, what's your pig?
Speaker 1: Pete? Who is his next fight?
Speaker 3: There's real Actually there's only one name that really is
Speaker 3: perfect for this, and that name is already on the card,
Speaker 3: Super Paul, the Paul brawl, Paul versus Paul.
Speaker 7: Oh well, they've already kind of started on that too,
Speaker 7: both of them on their.
Speaker 1: Problematic that Logan versus Jake.
Speaker 5: There's that, or of the other couple of names we mentioned,
Speaker 5: or like George Saint Pierre.
Speaker 1: How old is George Saint Pierre? Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: see those fans man.
Speaker 4: He is forty three years old.
Speaker 1: People who watch him hell billy fights. They might really
Speaker 1: pay for it. They don't care.
Speaker 4: George Saint Pierre's forty three?
Speaker 1: How was he as a fighter?
Speaker 7: It's got a big name, is that the striker?
Speaker 3: He was pretty versatile. He was for a period of
Speaker 3: time like the best in UFC power for pound like
Speaker 3: he was it.
Speaker 5: He was really it.
Speaker 1: Cool my pick is Chavez Jr.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Chavez Junior gives him the name to
Speaker 2: do a million buys. I think it gives him the
Speaker 2: legitimacy of beating a fighter that had sixty something fights.
Speaker 2: I think it moves him further along and the pantheon
Speaker 2: of why he should be ranked even though he's not
Speaker 2: fighting other up and coming contenders.
Speaker 1: I think he liked.
Speaker 2: How it felt to get a level of credibility fighting
Speaker 2: a box or even a fifty eight year one. So
Speaker 2: if I'm picking somebody, I'm picking Chavez Jr.
Speaker 7: Or make it a really big spectacle and put him
Speaker 7: versus Chu or something like that.
Speaker 4: What it's a real fighter.
Speaker 1: It's five ft three man, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Make it a real spectacle.
Speaker 7: Put when in a fight with a real fight wouldn't
Speaker 7: sanction that fight?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 2: Because he wouldn't because Chocolatito couldn't even be close to
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 3: How much Filipino food does it take to get Manny
Speaker 3: up to you know, arms.
Speaker 1: Reach Manny a lot? Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like that Irish dude who fought Mayweather for this fight.
Speaker 5: I think that's a really good fight.
Speaker 3: I think he can roll up into the one eighties,
Speaker 3: one nineties easily can be one ninety. Jacob, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's okay. Boisterous, he's a boisterous guy. He's good
Speaker 3: with his hands, and he he didn't have a bad
Speaker 3: showing against Floyd when Floyd was actually still in his career.
Speaker 1: But Floyd was kind of fucking around, like I mean, look.
Speaker 10: I meant, I mean, what do you watch. It's a
Speaker 10: viable boxing fight. It's a viable fight. It's a viable fight.
Speaker 10: But I mean he's gonna look like a monster compared
Speaker 10: to Connor McGregor.
Speaker 5: Fearless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying when you see that, you see
Speaker 2: him standing in front of Connor McGregor, nobody's gonna give Connor.
Speaker 1: McGregor a chance.
Speaker 7: So then put him in with Triple G, who's fat
Speaker 7: as hell right now, who has not fought since his
Speaker 7: last fight with Canelo. He would have to train to
Speaker 7: even get into shape. He hasn't fought in what five years,
Speaker 7: So you're gonna be the first Ballance silver medals a
Speaker 7: fat out of shape one. Yes, he has a I
Speaker 7: mean not yes, he's gonna beat him, but yes, let's
Speaker 7: see it.
Speaker 3: And that could be interesting because then there's a lot
Speaker 3: of jokes ready for Triple G.
Speaker 5: Being his cup size and whatnot.
Speaker 1: He's going to be in shape if he thought Jake Paul.
Speaker 3: How about the Korean guy that took Roy Jones's gold medal?
Speaker 7: If you don't know, if we don't know the name,
Speaker 7: it doesn't even matter the guy who took Roy Jones
Speaker 7: gold medal.
Speaker 1: Jake Paul versus.
Speaker 2: The guy who took Jones's gold medal. Maybe I think
Speaker 2: Chavez Junior Triple G. You know what, we should put
Speaker 2: up a poll in the uh, we should put up
Speaker 2: a pole. I'm having to put up a poll in
Speaker 2: the description when we post this. Who should be Jake
Speaker 2: Paul named Jake Paul Knick's opponent. So we'll have three
Speaker 2: or four names. I'm going Chavez Senior. What's your name?
Speaker 4: Trash?
Speaker 2: Huh, what's the name you're going for the poll?
Speaker 4: Chavis Junior. I'm with you, Chavis Junior?
Speaker 1: Another name?
Speaker 7: No, Yeah, we said Chavis Junior. We said Triple G.
Speaker 7: And or George Masvedal.
Speaker 1: What's what's your name?
Speaker 3: Pete Connor Logan?
Speaker 2: Okay, So we put together that that uh.
Speaker 1: That Paul and posted. You know what I mean, We'll
Speaker 1: get a great question.
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