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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast is wary of shadowy league figures.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with a fair amount of heroes, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. What up? Boys? Hey Dan? What a day

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Speaker 1: it's been for uh, for you, Dan especially, but all

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Speaker 1: of us, for me especially. But I missed no what

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Speaker 1: did you know? It? What a day? Indeed. So, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Greg Rosenthal's downstairs. It is a special night.

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Speaker 1: It is Sunday night of Week seventeen. There's so many

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Speaker 1: things going on, so many things in the air, including

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Speaker 1: especially including what's going on with Mark Sessler's Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 1: So Greg had to stay downstairs. So we're manning the ship.

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Speaker 1: I am back from New York and I got back

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Speaker 1: just in time because right in front of me, Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler is wearing an extra large number fifteen official Tim

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Speaker 1: Tebow jersey tucked into his jeans. As per the terms

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Speaker 1: of the bet, uh tied into the Week sixteen Brown's

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Speaker 1: Jets game. Mark your men of your word? Congratulations you

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Speaker 1: Uh you put a clown suit on Mark. I didn't

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Speaker 1: mean to. It was just a bet. You know I

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Speaker 1: would have been wearing a weed in jersey. But Mark,

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Speaker 1: thank you well listen and I you know, I sit

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Speaker 1: next to Wesley in the newsroom and I see the

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Speaker 1: look of jealousy in his eye that I get to

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Speaker 1: wear this for the first time ever. It was yours

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Speaker 1: as a wedding gets had to pull the tag off

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Speaker 1: of it. So it's not be getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: use by you. It's not jealousy, it's pity. Poor Mark.

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Speaker 1: He's fine with wearing the jersey. He looks good. He's

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Speaker 1: got a nice dress shirt on underneath. He's really pulling

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Speaker 1: off the look contrary to expectations. But every sad Sack

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Speaker 1: in the building has to come up and ask him

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Speaker 1: about it. Why are you wearing a Tim Tebow jersey?

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Speaker 1: It has been slightly distracting, um, And we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into it because this, on multiple levels is and it's

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Speaker 1: been a tough sledding for any Browns fans over the

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Speaker 1: last thirty years, but especially since today. We'll go down

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Speaker 1: as another dark factory of sadness type situation. And Mark,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it. But let's start with the

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Speaker 1: teams that end. Don't take this the wrong way that matter. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go through first the a f C.

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Speaker 1: The a f C schedule playoff schedule was released. UM,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna mix it up a little n NFC excuse

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Speaker 1: me for the first two rounds of the playoffs. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna mix it up a little this week since all

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Speaker 1: games were divisional, We're gonna go through all the a

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Speaker 1: f C, um and then take a look at the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll go through the NFC. Let's start in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: where Andy Dalton through for two touchdowns, ran for another

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Speaker 1: and set a pair of Bengals passing records Bengals Bengals

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, leading Cincinnati to at seventeen win that eliminated

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Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens. Um mark. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens lost their last two games, finishing eight and eight,

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Speaker 1: and they become the fifteen Super Bowl champion that failed

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Speaker 1: to reach the playoffs the following season after winning a title,

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Speaker 1: and the sixth in the last twelve years. Tell me

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Speaker 1: about this one. Well, you mentioned that Dalton threw two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: but he also tossed four interceptions, and you know this game,

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Speaker 1: if anything, at home, Cincinnati is a rough deal for

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Speaker 1: an opponent. And to imagine that a team can have

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Speaker 1: throw four interceptions and still win by seventeen points. This

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Speaker 1: is a more of a complete team than they were

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Speaker 1: in the past two seasons. There's no question they've got

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Speaker 1: the Listen. Tyler Reiffert wasn't on the field today. Neither

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Speaker 1: was Jermaine Aggression. That's a huge chunk of the way

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Speaker 1: that they moved the ball as their tight ends. These

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Speaker 1: guys don't have to play a Saturday morning playoff game

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Speaker 1: for the first time in two years. Yes, the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: after playing three of the past four years on Saturdays

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Speaker 1: of wild Card weekend. They have the one oh five

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Speaker 1: be a CBS game. That's interesting. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't think Cincinnati's a team that's

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Speaker 1: And we know that. After the game today, reporters asked

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Speaker 1: throw a pass that that was picked off. If you

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Speaker 1: if you know the guy, maybe it is not someone

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Speaker 1: you know, Dalton has done us before, head picks on

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Speaker 1: Dalton sabotaged them with these ugly throws. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's on Dalton because his his his passes, his decisions

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Speaker 1: just didn't work out for him this year. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean Flacco did not look healthy last week. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: NFL SAX lead and the and Adam Vinatieri joined the

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Speaker 1: I think that winning that game in Casey and obviously

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that the Cults are no longer

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's what he'd like to do. Is there any concern

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Speaker 1: I think this is a legitimate metamorphosis, Like they've changed

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Speaker 1: And you know, coaches are stubborn. They have these philosophies

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Speaker 1: that's just shows I love the open mindedness to be

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Speaker 1: of Andrew Luck to look at now. Um, I'll throw

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Speaker 1: it to us. What would you grade lux second season?

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Speaker 1: Regular season? You know I I give it an a minus.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought his numbers would be a lot better.

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Speaker 1: But I can't kill him for losing Dwayne Allen and

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Speaker 1: You know, a minus might actually be not even generous enough.

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Speaker 1: He really carried that team at times, just looked like

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Speaker 1: New York Jets, who thrived in the role of spoilers

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Speaker 1: also perhaps officially saving Rex Ryan's job, although um it

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Speaker 1: we're in a great mood today. But ultimately it's eight

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Speaker 1: But bottom line, Ryan was that was the right move

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Speaker 1: of other coaching staffs this season, what they would have

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Speaker 1: been contending with that Ryan had them playing hard. That

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Speaker 1: was the right move to me. But let's look at

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins and here was another team eight and six,

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Speaker 1: in any man's hands, right guys, right Chip Kelly, and

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Speaker 1: they fall on their face in a really gruesome way.

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Speaker 1: I believe they were outscored thirty nine seven against the

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Speaker 1: Bills and Jets to end the season at five hundred.

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Speaker 1: what does this mean for the their coach and their

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Speaker 1: see them in the playoffs. They don't do anything well.

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Speaker 1: They're not a bad team, but they don't do anything well.

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Speaker 1: This is not a team that's They're not doing anything

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill's progression this year. I think he doubled his

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Speaker 1: They do have pass rushers on defense, but this isn't

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Speaker 1: I think you have to. They don't have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: on the roster. They're not gonna go with case Keenum.

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Speaker 1: Matt Shob is probably out of Houston. They need a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. Someone tweeted at me today and this is

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Speaker 1: this is not on McNair, uh for saying this, but

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Speaker 1: he sent me an old link to an article that

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Speaker 1: was Bob McNair explaining why he passed on pursuing Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning and free agency, and it's because, uh, Matt Shob

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Speaker 1: was coming back from his list Frank injury. He was

435
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Speaker 1: he has a great arm, and they were set at

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Speaker 1: quarterback and they didn't need to look in another direction.

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00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: They could fortify the roster elsewhere, and that did not

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Speaker 1: quite work out. Legarrett Blunt ran for a career high

439
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: on nine yards what and then two touchdowns and had

440
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: too long kickoff returns what as the New England Patriots

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Speaker 1: clinched the first round a f C by with a

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Speaker 1: thirty win over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: are twelve and four. As if we ever doubted the

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Speaker 1: Patriots would somehow get to that twelve and four mark

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Speaker 1: and get that by they do it every year. And

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Speaker 1: if Greg was here, I would I would kind of

447
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Speaker 1: get upset and and just moan and how things never changed.

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Speaker 1: But let's, you know what, with Greg not being here,

449
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Speaker 1: let's just keep it between the three of us and

450
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Speaker 1: carriage behind the glass and the audience. Great job by

451
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots this year. Yeah, I'll tell you what concerns

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Speaker 1: me about New England spending this forward is and Greg

453
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: made a good point, they are greater than the some

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Speaker 1: of their parts because you've got La Garrett blown for instance,

455
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: is the mark of this team. This guy that no

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Speaker 1: one wanted in Tampa. Trade him for a track star

457
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Speaker 1: that ended up doing nothing and he's running over people.

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00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: But the defense big issues That lewis throwing for eight

459
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: point five yards per attempt today, the same thing happened

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Speaker 1: in New England last week. I do I I'm concerned

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Speaker 1: about this team going into the playoffs. Yeah, they've done well.

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Speaker 1: They've had as many injuries as anyone to key players,

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Speaker 1: and to end up twelve and four is is almost miraculous.

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Speaker 1: They've done so well. But defense they keep winning while

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Speaker 1: they're giving up career games two opponents I cant. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like I have no confidence in any Dalton

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Speaker 1: succeeding in the playoffs unless he goes to New England

468
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Speaker 1: and plays a passing defense that gets worse by the

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Speaker 1: week mark. You say you're concerned about the Patriots, but

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Speaker 1: aren't they on some level? I know what the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like the Yankees during their postseason run, where

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Speaker 1: they're always expected. If you don't win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: it's considered failure. But as in the kind of house

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Speaker 1: some money, no one's gonna get too down on them

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Speaker 1: if they get knocked out this year, considering all the

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Speaker 1: guys are missing and how great Denver is this season.

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Speaker 1: You know, they win a playoff game and get knocked

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Speaker 1: out uh in the a f C championship game, that

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Speaker 1: would kind of be a success. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: it's probably a good thing that you aren't part of

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Speaker 1: New England's front office with that attitude, because they don't

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Speaker 1: think that way at all. And one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: of twelve and four despite all the disaster. Other clubs

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Speaker 1: would be six and six and ten after what happened

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Speaker 1: in New England. They are that well coached, and whenever

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Speaker 1: you've got Tom Brady running the show, I think they

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Speaker 1: have to be thinking super Bowl. They wouldn't. They didn't

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Speaker 1: come this far to think anything less. It would be

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Speaker 1: a disappointment. I agree with Dan. If I was a

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Speaker 1: fan and they lost, I agree with this. This house money,

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Speaker 1: after everything has happened to them this year, I think

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Speaker 1: it's unreasonable to expect a Super Bowl. If they get there,

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Speaker 1: that's great. But if you're a Patriots fan, uh at

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Speaker 1: twelve and four is in a completely emotionless experience, and

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00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: it really the season really starts now right kind of yes,

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Speaker 1: and I and I will bring the analogy again because

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Speaker 1: I am a Yankees fan, so I do understand how

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Speaker 1: Patriots fans think. This is like the Yankees during their

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Speaker 1: great run of ninety six to two thousand eleven or

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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve excuse me, where yes, they were gonna

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Speaker 1: win games every year. And while that was an achievement,

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Speaker 1: that really meant nothing. So it's all about the postseason

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00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: and that that comes out. There's a certain burden that

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Speaker 1: comes with that. And even as underdogs this year, they'll

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Speaker 1: get heat if they lose. I bet you do two things. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is the eighth by in Bellichicks fourteen seasons as coach,

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Speaker 1: and for the Bills, they missed the playoffs for the

508
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: four straight year, the league's longest streak. And one last thing.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots will play the late game these primetime game Saturday,

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Speaker 1: January eleventh, of Division Round weekend. Mark and I were

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Speaker 1: at a bar the Cozy in two years ago, the

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Speaker 1: last time the Patriots played on a Saturday night. That is,

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Speaker 1: and this will be a call back to earlier in

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Speaker 1: the podcast, the death of tebowmaany Uh that was the

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Speaker 1: blowout of the Broncos. A week after that Steelers Uh miracle.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, Peyton Manning set the NFL single season yards

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Speaker 1: record and threw four touchdown passes to clinch the top

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Speaker 1: seed in the a f C Playoffs with the Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos with a thirty four fourteen victory Sunday over the

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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. Uh. Peyton Manning geez one half is all

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Speaker 1: he needed two quarters uh to get the yardage record

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Speaker 1: UH seventy seven, eclipsing Drew Brees is two thousand eleven

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Speaker 1: record by you one yard and also to throw four

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Speaker 1: more touchdowns to get up to fifty five on the season.

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Speaker 1: Um and oh, by the way, that Broncos clinched the

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Speaker 1: number one seed in the a f C and they

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Speaker 1: are the they have home field advantage throughout the a

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Speaker 1: f C playoffs. Hey, Mark, you wanna know how to

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Speaker 1: get Dan really hacked off? Just cheesed off. You're a

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Speaker 1: little man up further into the board has been to Mattie. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know that your dander has been raised. Something sticks

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00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: in your crawl. Okay, okay, I like that one. Uh

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Speaker 1: ask Dan who's in the conversation with Peyton Manning for

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Speaker 1: m v P. Dan, who's in the conversation for m

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Speaker 1: v P. You know I was on I can't say

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00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: who it was on Twitter today because there was someone

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Speaker 1: within the NFL media umbrella and if I were to

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00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: attack said individual, a large, shadowy league figure would come

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00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: down upon me with his iron fists. So I won't. However,

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00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: I will say this. Someone tweeted today that Matt Forte

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Speaker 1: deserves to be in the m v P conversation because

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00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: he's had a great year and yes, Matt Forte has

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00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: had a very nice season, but there is no conversation

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Speaker 1: for the m v P. And you know why why,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Here are Peyton Manning's final statistics

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Speaker 1: for the two thousand regular season four and fifty of

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Speaker 1: its fifty nine passing that's sixty eight point five thousand,

548
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Speaker 1: four d seventy seven yards. That's a record fifty five

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes, just ten interceptions, a one fifteen point one

550
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Speaker 1: passer rating. This is a line that may never be topped.

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00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: And I know things always records always get broken, but

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00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: this will always stand as one of the greatest, if

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Speaker 1: not the greatest season ever by a quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: number one seed in the a f C. This is

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00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: the biggest slam dunk m VP that I could ever remember.

556
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: The last time I saw the end of season stat

557
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: line like that was me playing super Tech Move Who

558
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: who is in Montana? I think it was Jim Kelly.

559
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly was a great tech moball player. These Broncos

560
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: playing at a level there. Listen, whatever they few bumps

561
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: in the road earlier in the year, can they be

562
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: stopped in the a f C West? Sure by who? Anybody?

563
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Can have it off day. They don't have a defense.

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00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: You saw them against the Oakland Raiders. Who knows. The

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00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Broncos play the late game on Sunday, January twelve of

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Speaker 1: the Divisional playoffs. Of course at Mile High and UM.

567
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Last year they had the early game Saturday, and Raheem

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00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: More already requested. I got a text not to go

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Speaker 1: any further into that game. But they have the late

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday, And yes, Manning and the and the

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Speaker 1: Broncos amazing season. But that kind of like the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: But even more so, Manning has to get to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl this year or it's gonna be seen as

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00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: a failure. Well, this is not house money for any level.

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00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: This was a two or three year project with Manning,

576
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Speaker 1: and you've got to get it done. I agree, this

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00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: is totally This is the opposite of the Patriots. You've

578
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: got to do it. This year. The San Diego Chargers

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Speaker 1: ended their three or playoff drought with a four overtime

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Speaker 1: victory over the Kansas City Chiefs UH to advance as

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Speaker 1: the number six seed in the playoffs. This was a

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Speaker 1: game the listen. Plenty of credit to the Chargers, who

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: won four straight games five and seven and dead, but

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00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: they also needed two things. They needed the chief set

585
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: twenty of twenty two starters, including their entire defense. Charges

586
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: are playing at home, and this game is over and

587
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers are in the playoffs. If the Chiefs kicker

588
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: hits forty one yard field goal, to the Chargers credit,

589
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: They wiped out a ten point deficit in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter before that suck up miss, and then they won

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Speaker 1: it in overtime, so you give them credit. And winning

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Speaker 1: four in a row, including a road win in Denver

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Speaker 1: to keep their hopes alive, they deserve it, But this

594
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: is they got very lucky. I mean, they got losses

595
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: from the Dolphins and the Ravens and a very lucky

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Speaker 1: win today and now they're in the postseason. You're a

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00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: lot more generous than I am. Credit credit they need.

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00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: They got a missfield goal by one inch to save

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Speaker 1: them from losing a game at home to a team

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Speaker 1: benching twenty of two starters. They'll get no credit from me.

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Speaker 1: And one of the starters, ironically, was the guy that

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Speaker 1: missed a kick, So it's uh, you know, you couldn't

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00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: get more lucky than I guess. It wasn't half Chase

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00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: Daniel played pretty well. Yes he did, making the leap

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00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: candidate quarterback controversy, but yeah that. Even though I'm happy

606
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: to see UH Philip Rivers and his big swinging bolow

607
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I've kind of lost any excitement for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers as a January football team after watching how

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Speaker 1: they performed at home today. I'm kind of shocked that

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Speaker 1: they won the game because it's such a classic San

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00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Diego meltdown. They will be playing Sunday one oh five

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern at Cincinnati. UH. Two games that two teams

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Speaker 1: that nobody's really gonna believe, and somebody's gonna have to win.

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00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: So in the rematch of the coldest game in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: Give me some history. What was I don't know, it

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Speaker 1: was eighty two. I think maybe UH Chargers come in

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Speaker 1: the dawn fouts Kellen Winslow, West Chandler, Charlie Joyner, Chargers,

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Speaker 1: that air Corriel, lighten up the scoreboard. Chargers spent half

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Speaker 1: the day with their hands in their pockets, those front

620
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: pockets on those Jangles angles off tip line comes out

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Speaker 1: sleeveless for a game that was minus thirty seven Winchiell

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00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: back when West actually paid some amount of attention to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals As a fan, I was in love with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. They broke my heart just to go over

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00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: it again. Chiefs at Colts next Saturday at four thirty five,

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Speaker 1: and then Chargers at Bengals Sunday at one oh five Eastern.

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Speaker 1: All times Eastern. And let's move to the NFC now.

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Speaker 1: We'll start in Atlanta, where Cam Newton threw two touchdown passes,

629
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Speaker 1: Greg Hardy crack and had a team record four sacks,

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Speaker 1: and the Carolina Panthers clinched the NFC South title by

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Speaker 1: beating the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday. The Panthers clinched the

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Speaker 1: first round by and home field advantage for at least

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Speaker 1: one game, and they are the number two seed in

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Speaker 1: the NFC, the team of around the league this year. West.

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Speaker 1: How confident do you feel going into the dance? Not

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00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: very Uh. It's it's their offense. I love the way

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00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: the defense is playing. They will keep them in almost

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00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: every game they play without Steve Smith and this this

639
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: was big to get him back. We don't know if

640
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: he'll be back or not, or what condition he'll be in.

641
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, we don't know will and who will be back.

642
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: They're just not moving the ball um. They have one

643
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: of the worst wide receiver cords in the NFL. Cam

644
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Newton was sailing passes all over the stadium today. I

645
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: think Greg said it best. When your third and long

646
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: play is a quarterback drawl, you've got some major issues

647
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: on offense. I still like Carolina's chance. Let's assume that

648
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: Seattle wins its first playoff game. I still like Carolina's

649
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: chance better than the Saints or another team he wanted.

650
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: So that's to go into Seattle and with that defense

651
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: put some heat on Russell Wilson. There's no question in

652
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: my mind right now the forty Niners are a better

653
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: team than the Panthers. Well, they're more complete team, that's

654
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: for sure. Aaron Rodgers fired a forty eight year touchdown

655
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: past the Randall Cobb in the final minute and the

656
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers beat the Chicago Bears thirty to capture

657
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: the NFC North championship. This was Roger's back after missing

658
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: seven games with a broken left collar bone. Found a

659
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: wide open Reggie cob on fourth and eight at the

660
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: forty eight to wipe out at one point deficit with

661
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: thirty eight seconds left. This was, I will say, in

662
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: my opinion, the number one moment in the NFL media

663
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: news room all year. When you hit that pass, everybody

664
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: kind of kind of blew the roof off the place.

665
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: It was only one of four times I got out

666
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: of my chair all year, the other time being about

667
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: ten minutes earlier when Ryan suck Up missed the field

668
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: goal double chair. I was hopping all over the news

669
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: room today. Who wants to deal with Green Bay in

670
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs? I mean, it doesn't matter what the record

671
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: is going in. I mean, suddenly you had Rogers hitting

672
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Cob on this huge These are the guys they didn't

673
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: have all this time. How about the onions on Aaron Rodgers.

674
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: He hits a fourth down conversion to Dy Nelson, and

675
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: then with a game on the line, fourth and eight,

676
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: he gets away from the rush by sometime, hits Cobb

677
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: and stride game over onions. My friend, It's it's gonna

678
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: be a tough matchup against the forty Niners. Very tough matchup.

679
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: And one thing that would concern me if I was

680
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: the Packers beyond their defense which has been pretty poor,

681
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy wasn't cutting like Eddie Lacy. He couldn't put

682
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: weight on that ankle. He wasn't the same player. James

683
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Stark's actually actually looked better than Lazy today. That's an issue.

684
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see Kaepernick go run for

685
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: almost two hundred yards this time, No neither do I

686
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: yeah that, I mean that was a game that was

687
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: Kaepernick's true coming out moment, where all of a sudden,

688
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: all bets are off as to what that guy could be.

689
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: He hasn't been. Although he's gotten better as the season progressed.

690
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't see him all of a sudden becoming that

691
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: phenomenon again. So I think this will be a closer game.

692
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: But ultimately the Green Bay defense has let them down

693
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: and back to back playoff years. Still a little suspect

694
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: that they'll be able to little suspect its defense just

695
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: isn't very good. A little shameless promotional plug. Brian Baldinger

696
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: uh NFL Media Zone, not the guy that sent that

697
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: tweet earlier today, will be breaking down Green Bay's final

698
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: drive in his Drive of the Week and you can

699
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: see that NFL dot Com this Tuesday. Uh, should we

700
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: do some type of post mortem of the Bears because

701
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: this is a devastating loss. And there's a picture that

702
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna see if you didn't see it already tonight tomorrow,

703
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall face down on the soldier field turf, just

704
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: stunned all in front of them. Another team with where

705
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: they had it all in front of them. They lose

706
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: back to back weeks and and heartbreaking fashion to a

707
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: big rival. I just wonder, are we gonna was this

708
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Cutler's last game? He played pretty well today. We can't

709
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: blame him for that loss. My gut feeling is the

710
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: Bears franchise Tag Cutler and then trade him. I think

711
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: they have so much work on defense to do. They

712
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: they need bodies all over that defense. They need whatever

713
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: assets they can get in the former draft picks, and

714
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: they need the salary cap space. Cutler will take probably

715
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: seventeen to eighteen million a year. You can sign, You

716
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: can resign McCown for three or four million, and then

717
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: draft a first round guy and then fix your defense.

718
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: That's kind of where I think they're headed real John

719
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: again caught a twenty four yard touchdown past and read

720
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: forty nine yards for another score to lead the New

721
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: York Giants to a six victory over the Washington Redskins

722
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday and what might be and probably will be

723
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan's final game as the Redskins coach. Don't need

724
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: to say much about this game, right, Well, it was

725
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: a nice parting gift for Mike Shanahan to say about TODG.

726
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins trade value so much for the narrative that

727
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: kirk Cousins was going to use these final three games

728
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: against the soft schedule to create a horrendous um quarterback controversy.

729
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: And maybe it's for the best because we would have

730
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: had to deal with that for the entire offseason. I mean,

731
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: the one thing is that a year ago, Shanahan was

732
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: edging back into genius territory, and uh, it doesn't look

733
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: like a genius today. The Redskins ended the season on

734
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: an eight game losing streak and they are the number

735
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: two pick in the NFL draft. However, that goes to

736
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: the rams to handsome general manager less needs. So guess

737
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: what r G three is if there wasn't enough pressure

738
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: on him to get right, get healthy and be the

739
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: guy who was as a rookie. Now that trade is

740
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: even amplified even further of him having to be that guy. Hey,

741
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: he'll return with a furious vengeance in two thousand four,

742
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: that you know. So while the Lions are dead and

743
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: gone and they'll probably have a new coach potentially, uh

744
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: going forward, it's always fun to get Kevin Patra, the

745
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: a t L Chicago correspondent, on the line. So why

746
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: don't we do that? Kevin Patra? Are you there from Chicago?

747
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Patra coming at you? What's up? Kevin? How's it going? Fellas?

748
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: How are you? How cold is it where you are

749
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: right now? It's freezing? Why does anyone live there? I

750
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: got sunburned yesterday. All right, here we go. Rookie Cordell

751
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: Patterson scored two more touchdowns, including the go ahead catch

752
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: in the end zone the on the fourth quarter in

753
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings be the Detroit Lions fourteen thirteen on

754
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: Sunday in the final game at the Metrodome after thirty

755
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: two seasons. Just a minor in side. I don't need

756
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: to hear anything about the Metrodome. I went to the

757
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: Metrodome with my buddy Greg who's a Vikings fan, back

758
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six for a Jets game at

759
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: Places A dump. No one really has any connections with

760
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: it except for maybe Kirby Puckett fans. It's gone. It's over.

761
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: It's over for the Metrodome anyway. So the Vikings and

762
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: Lines both out of the playoffs. Um, Patrick seasons over.

763
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: You're happy it's over. I as soon. I'm thrilled, just

764
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: how I dreamed it up. Both lost everything looking like crap.

765
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Oh it was beautiful, beautiful. But here's the good news.

766
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, the greatest running back to ever live. The

767
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush hype train rolled straight past the thousand yards

768
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: for the second time. He didn't enjoy bells first rby

769
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: tannem to go five hundred and five hundred together in

770
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: the same season. They have shown promise, although they only

771
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: they only combined for sixty three yards on the ground today.

772
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: Lamous stats. What that doesn't mean anything. I will let

773
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: me the first time ever history record book that Joycell

774
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: has is in the record books. How about that one.

775
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: Congratulations on your seven and nineteen with to yard receiving

776
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: running back. I love the lines right now. But um,

777
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: you had uh, you had Mickel Leshore who came out

778
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: uh this week and said, I just want to eat

779
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: whoever will feed me the rock is where I want

780
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: to be. All right, bro, good job with that and

781
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: then you all. Said Matthew Stafford this week, I was

782
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: asked about having some type of QB guru to maybe

783
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: fix his woeful mechanics. Like I'm good. No, I'm good.

784
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm good with that zero determination to him.

785
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Kevin Patrick, I'm feeling great about

786
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: the future. That that his whole um personality toward all

787
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: he did it earlier in the year, was not wanting

788
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: to have a team meeting. It's just nonchalant, and that's

789
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of frustrating to be honest with you, and

790
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that's one reason they need to bring in

791
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff to kind of light a fire

792
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: under him. Well, answer, the answer to all of your

793
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: problems can be flipping your hat backwards, oh a little.

794
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: Do you know? I do it every day, answers every question. Kevin.

795
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: We will be in touch with you throughout the UH

796
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: post season and then into the off season. We will

797
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: break down how the Lions will finally get to the

798
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: super Bowl. But we're going to move on from now,

799
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: not not against you, but against the Lions and the Vikings,

800
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: who we don't respect at this stage. All right, man,

801
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you. That was a shot at Stafford,

802
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: not at Patra. Only game featuring two teams that probably

803
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: or most definitely will fire their head coach. Correct, Let's

804
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: move on. Phil Dawson kicked the forty yard field goal

805
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: as the game ended to lift the San Francisco forty

806
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: Niners to twenty victory over the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday.

807
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: That locks in the Niners as the NFC's number five

808
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: playoff seed. That from my perspective, and I you know,

809
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: it's silly or whatever, but I've never seen a team

810
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: that there was this good have to work. It is

811
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: hard to get into the playoffs like every other team.

812
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: Look at the Steelers almost made the freaking playoffs this year.

813
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: The Niners had to go twelve and four and they

814
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: and they had to earn every one of those wins.

815
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: But they're in the dance and they're a player. They're

816
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: the hottest team in the NFL right now. They've won

817
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: six games in a row. The offense you wouldn't even

818
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: recognize them from earlier in the year. They've Kaepernick has

819
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: gone over a one eight passer rating in five of

820
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: the past six games. That's sublime. This is the game

821
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: of next weekend to me, San Francisco forty Niners at

822
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers four for d p m. Eastern on

823
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: Fox the Joe Buck Troy Anklin Special. I really like

824
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: this game. And you know, I think we talked about

825
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: it little earlier about Kaepernick what he's gonna bring. But

826
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's no reason to think that the Niners

827
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: can't beat any of these teams in the NFC. In

828
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: their building, They're they're just built for this type of football.

829
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: They're shown it the last two years. I mean, are

830
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: they Where do you guys, where do you rank the

831
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: Niners right now? In terms of power rankings for NFC?

832
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: If they played on an utrue field, I would have

833
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: them even with the Seahawks. Yeah, I see. That's the

834
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: issue for me is that if they're gonna deal with Seattle,

835
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in Seattle. That's such a game changer.

836
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: But you know, West is right, you you look at

837
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: the whole conference and man, what more does San Francisco

838
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: need to do at this point to not be as

839
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: under the radar as they are? I'm sure they love

840
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: it because honestly, all the attentions heaped on Seattle and

841
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: actually Caroline at this point and the Niners, You're right,

842
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: they struggled to get here, and they're much more balanced

843
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: than they were two months ago, totally different teams. They're

844
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: Vernon David's concussion against the Panthers and and a mob

845
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: Brooks penalty call against the Saints away from being fourteen

846
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: and two and one quick post mortem on the Cardinals

847
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: ten and six this year, it's pretty good. That's a

848
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: pretty good season in a very tough division. One thing

849
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: I'd say is, I think at mid season we all

850
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of figured they'd be among the teams looking for

851
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round of the draft. I

852
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: think Carson Palmer's done enough in the second half of

853
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: the season that they'll be comfortable with him starting next year.

854
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're gonna get one, but they

855
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: don't have to start a guy right away. What an

856
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: impressive job Bruce arians did. I'd still call him coach

857
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: of the year potentially. Malcolm Smith returned an interception thirty

858
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: seven yards for a touchdown. Marshawn Lynch added a two

859
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: yards scoring run. The Seattle Seahawks clinched the NFC West

860
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: title and home field advantage throughout the playoffs with nine

861
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: win over the St. Louis Rams. Um, Seattle matches it's

862
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: franchise record for wins in a season, and they get

863
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: that number one seed after failing in their previous two

864
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: weeks to lock it down. As Turning Corner would say,

865
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: I believe I had this one. Three touchdowns, Kellen Cleming

866
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: stars a pick six. Come on, they're very excited West.

867
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I like when to get excited. Um, yeah, I mean

868
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: that minor hiccup last week. Aside, I still view Seattle

869
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: as the big favorite to win this whole thing, and

870
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I view the NFC is it's gonna be tough. I mean,

871
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: there the Seattle Seahawks. They play the early game Saturday,

872
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: January eleven against the lowest remaining seed in the NFC.

873
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: That's how these things work. And um, I like their

874
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: chances to get out of this conference. But do you

875
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: have any concerns over their passing game? Percy Harvin isn't

876
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: walking through that door. No. In fact, I'm seeing reports

877
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 1: that he could be heading towards I Are any time now. Yeah,

878
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: they've went through these funks where the offense looks really

879
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: bad and that is something to watch out for it.

880
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: But I just I get the feeling that they'll turn

881
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: it on the playoffs. I feel confident, feel confident with

882
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: my predictions still that the Seahawks will romp at MetLife

883
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: Stadium February two, if that's the day of the Super

884
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: Bowl General circling the bases Grand Slam. Drew Brees passed

885
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: for four touchdowns and ran for another score, and the

886
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints clinched a wild card spot with a

887
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: seventeen win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday. The

888
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: Saints will head to Philadelphia to play the Eagles on

889
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: Saturday night at eight ten pm Eastern and NBC. Uh guys,

890
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: we know that the Saints are a team that's grade

891
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: at home, but they're not gonna be at home in

892
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Are we taking them seriously? You have to

893
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: take them seriously. It's not like the Eagles have a

894
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: shutdown defense. But Drew Brees had as high as passer

895
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: rating of the season today, the fourth highest of his career,

896
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: and my takeaway was, it's it's essentially meaningless. They've averaged

897
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: thirty or four points per game at home and eighteen

898
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: on the road. They're a different team on the road.

899
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: That's an issue, although the Eagles didn't win at home

900
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: for months to start the season. But this is a

901
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: This is one of the more fascinating matchups of the

902
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: of next week's action. I can't wait to see what

903
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: happens here. But I could never rule out the Saints

904
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: with Breeze at the helm, especially as West said, against

905
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: the defense that is still discovering who they are. I think,

906
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: who do you think will be favored in this game?

907
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: You've gotta you've got to give it to the Eagles.

908
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: I think the whoa wait a second, Oh, we have

909
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: to congre I can't believe it took us this long,

910
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: this terrible job, I asked Cage frying the glass, a

911
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: huge Eagles fan, Eagles all the way. Congratulations, Carriage, thank you.

912
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I appreciate that. Well, you know,

913
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone after this game, they're like, can

914
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles really keep up with the Saints? But this

915
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: is my thing in our division, These games are always

916
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: like this. It's always underwhelming, more so than what you expect.

917
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: We expected this game to be really good, but when

918
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: we step out of the NFC East, our games we

919
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: put on shows, So I'm looking forward to this Saints matchup.

920
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, there's no reason why we would

921
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: ever write the Saints off against the Eagles, because, with

922
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: all due respect Harrich, I don't think anybody thinks the

923
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Eagles are a great team. They have capability to the

924
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: capability to be great in spots. But look what they

925
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: did their last home game last Sunday night against Chicago.

926
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: They just blew the doors off. So I don't know,

927
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: you wonder if the Saints defense will be up to

928
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: the challenge of playing in that spot. They remind me

929
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: of Denver and one aspect, not personnel wise, but the

930
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: ability when they get hot to just dump twenty one

931
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: points on you in a quick amount of time and

932
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: close opponents out if they get hot. They really they

933
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: That's why they're a total wild card, bizarre team to me.

934
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: Heading into the playoffs Philadelphia, my sense is the Saints

935
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: will actually be the consensus pick to win this game.

936
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: We shall see going against you guys. I like that, see,

937
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: I like that's heat. That's an example of heat. West

938
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: asked what is heat in the last podcast Through Life

939
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: experience is what it is. I hope it's becoming more

940
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: clear than the A D scales to me. Well yeah yeah,

941
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: but the A D scale to you, I mean this

942
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: is I got nothing. By the way, the boss, the

943
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: one guy in this room, not in the room, but

944
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: in our on our team that picked the Eagles way

945
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: back when to win this division. Well, let's talk about

946
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles. The Philadelphia Eagles went into Dallas facing a

947
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys team without Tony Romo, and they got the job done. Win.

948
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: They got the big stop, the big stop on the

949
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: two point conversion at the end of the game. And

950
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 1: then and this is where it gets a little weird.

951
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: They get the Cowboys, get us stop, get the ball back.

952
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: First down for the Cowboys, they have to go about

953
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: sixty yards to get in the field goal range. First

954
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: pass intercepted, orton intercepted, game over. And it really makes

955
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: you think, First of all, you know, there's no Romo

956
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: to blame for that pick. It feels like there's ghosts,

957
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: ghosts in that building for the Cowboys, which you don't

958
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: want ghosts in your home building that just opened. Ever,

959
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: not a good not a good fit. I think they're

960
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: just not a really very good football team. Yeah, and listen,

961
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: Orton played. He did a solid job tonight through for

962
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: the second most passing yards that the Cowboys have had

963
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: in the game this year. M Yeah, I mean he

964
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: played and you could hear it and Chris. It was

965
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: funny because Chris Collinsworth was actively rooting for Orton. I

966
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: think he saw him as an underdog character and he

967
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: kind of got behind him and you could hear and

968
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: in Collinsworth's voice after that interception because he knew that

969
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: that Orton had just thrown away all that he achieved

970
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: in that game with that bad pass through behind his receiver.

971
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: Game over. And you know, Orton also made the wrong

972
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: read on the two point conversion try. He looked like

973
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: he had wit and open as that might have been

974
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: the better read instead of firing it towards does Brian

975
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: who's covered. But on balance, you've got a really good

976
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: start out of Orton, and to the Cowboys credit, they

977
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: at least showed up in this game. But ultimately the

978
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: Eagles were the better team and they won the game. Yeah.

979
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: We you want to see the better teams get into

980
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and that's what's happened here. But secondly, I

981
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: hope that we don't spend the next uh five six

982
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: months in the offseason hoisting up a completely average product

983
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: that's come out of Dallas four years on end. This

984
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: is the quintessential average team with an average coach that

985
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: cannot get it done. There's sloppy. I do not want

986
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: to see this team put on six more now aationally

987
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: televised games next year. It gets my I know that,

988
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: but that's but again, it's the one team. No matter

989
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: how they do, we just put them up there. We

990
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: crown them. This are a completely mediocre football This is

991
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: where I disagree with you, Mark, because we have a

992
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: fundamental it's their eight and eate. But they they weekly

993
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: and they did it again tonight. They play exciting, fun

994
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: football games to watch. They get great ratings, and that's

995
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: what NBC wants. That's what the primetime audience is looking for,

996
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: competitive games with popular teams. That's why the Cowboys are there.

997
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: And I will say one thing, Jerry Jones in the box.

998
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: We've seen it so many years now, the Jerry Jones

999
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: disappointment face. This was the Jerry Jones raging anger where

1000
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: he actually came up out of his seat, stormed away

1001
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: from his seat, and you could see him shouting in

1002
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: the box. Is Jason Garret and survived this? Yes? I

1003
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: think he will. Actually, we'll see. I guess they've invested

1004
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: much money in him that maybe he does, but I don't.

1005
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: He hasn't earned it. He hasn't in wait. My argument

1006
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: is that their average there eight and eight for the

1007
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: third straight season under Garrett. I understand that you find

1008
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: them entertaining on television. I don't. I don't disagree with that,

1009
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: but I'm calling them. I'm saying that they are average

1010
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: and they are a five team for the third straight year.

1011
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: I don't know this to be a fact, but they

1012
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: seem to lose an inordinate number of games through clock failures,

1013
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: bad play calling down the stretch, and every time there's

1014
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: a closed game, it seems like they're on the losing

1015
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: the GMS job, safe for in danger, infallible. Alright, that

1016
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: does it for tonight's podcast. We will be back on Tuesday. Mark,

1017
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: guess what what we have during January. Throughout the postseason,

1018
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: we will have different days. I guess one day, Tuesday

1019
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna do Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Wait, Thursday too. You're

1020
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: all thrown out a whack Alright, So the podcast is

1021
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: Sunday Tuesday, Thursday through January, which means we will be

1022
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: back on Tuesday, and that gives us market an entire

1023
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: new platform to talk about the Browns. Look, I don't

1024
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: think we need to spend another second on the Mark

1025
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: is going to go through the glass and attack care Rich.

1026
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm taking care Rich. I'm taking

1027
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: care Rich in this. She seems like she'd be feisty,

1028
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna go home to my house and

1029
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry. I've like k Rich might no krote.

1030
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: You know, I do not want to fight her in

1031
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: a physical or mental battle. I just I don't know.

1032
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm staying clear of Rich. Well, your brother not Feames

1033
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: have been awake and working for twenty hours now, I know. Mark,

1034
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: Just go home. That's what we do in week seventeen.

1035
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: It's just grind. We're all machines and Mark, congratulations. This

1036
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: is the conclusion of both of our fourth seasons at

1037
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: the NFL regular season. Well, right back at you then, historic, Yeah,

1038
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: let's Stephen who cares? All right, we'll be back on Tuesday.

1039
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: Signing up. This is Dan Hansis for The Mailman. The Sizzler,

1040
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: the boss you know in spirit. Kevin Patrick cuming at

1041
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: you car Ridge behind the Glass until Tuesday,