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Speaker 1: this is Summer Slam. That's right, hot WrestleMania, as my

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Speaker 1: WrestleMania two nights was not enough? No, no, no, now

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Speaker 1: ww SummerSlam is going to be not one, but two

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Speaker 1: nights long, which means even more opportunities for us to

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Speaker 1: Trell Furman Junior here to help us break down all

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Speaker 1: the matches. Will there be a cash in? Is the

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Speaker 1: injury of work? What's gonna happen with the main events?

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Speaker 1: And what belts are gonna change hands? Oh? Excuse me, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Evince Championships that I say belts? Oh oops. Anyway, let's

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Speaker 1: fall long, all right, So, Terrell Tyler, before we get

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Speaker 1: into anything, I feel like whether or not you believe

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Speaker 1: Seth Rollins cashes in and who he cashes in on

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Speaker 1: is really going to set up the rest of these

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Speaker 1: my two cents. I want to see what you guys

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Speaker 1: think about it, what your swerves are, because I'm not

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Speaker 1: buying the Rolins injury. I haven't been buying it for

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Speaker 1: the entire time. We'll see if I'm right or wrong.

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Speaker 1: On top of which, I think everybody just assumes it's

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Speaker 1: going to be the very easy gunther cmpunk cash in

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Speaker 1: there where Rollins takes over and we extend the cm

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Speaker 1: but we're also building towards an ending. And we've got

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Speaker 1: Cody Rhodes and Sena two here. The first one was lackluster, and.

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Speaker 2: I think it needs a little juice and to give

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Speaker 2: it some juice, especially with December looming, and I was

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Speaker 2: wanting to turn John Cena back again into a face

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Speaker 2: so everyone can cheer them in Boston in December.

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Speaker 1: Why not have Rollins cash in there? Why not have

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Speaker 1: that happen on Sena then you get the scene of redemption.

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Speaker 1: Arc to me, if I'm betting a seth Rollins Cash

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be on Sena and Rose, because I

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Speaker 1: think it's a little bit more of a swerve. Tyler,

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Speaker 1: since your first time here talking wrestling with us, and

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Speaker 1: Tyler does a lot of our social media here and

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Speaker 1: a lot of other amazing things for us here a

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Speaker 1: betting pros and fantasy pros. Tyler, what's your take? The

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Speaker 1: floor is yours on the Ceampunk cash in injury real

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Speaker 1: or not? Cash in happening or no?

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Speaker 3: Thanks? Yeh, first fell excited to be on the wrestling

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Speaker 3: show for the first time, longtime fan, first time caller.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned you mentioned something juicy there and a

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Speaker 3: lot of these title matches in the pay per view

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Speaker 3: are juiced, so we're looking for a surprise summer slam.

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Speaker 3: I feel like is always it's sort of the mid

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Speaker 3: season finale on the wrestling calendar. You want something big

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Speaker 3: to happen. You want to pull out that big swerve

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Speaker 3: at some point, and I do think that the best

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Speaker 3: one that they could do would be have seth Rowlins

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Speaker 3: cashing in and not on Cmpunk or gun Through. I

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Speaker 3: think that might be a little bit too so you

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Speaker 3: can find the bet somewhere. I do think seth Rawlins

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Speaker 3: think it's it might be a fun bet, fun long shot,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like that could be the surprise we

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Speaker 1: Look it's I think they have a problem here, which

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Speaker 1: was WrestleMania thirty nine super hot? You had us wait

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Speaker 1: The chase is where the money is all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Then WrestleMania forty one comes around and it seems to

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Speaker 1: and we kind of plot along, plot along, but usually

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Speaker 1: by money in the bank. Even by SummerSlam, things are

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Speaker 1: take here on Rolins and where we might be going

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Speaker 1: here this weekend with that money in the bank cashing? Well?

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Speaker 4: When I originally was watching the match with La Night,

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Speaker 4: I was very disappointed because it was I was like, Yo,

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Speaker 4: this is the same move that you get hurt on.

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Speaker 4: Why are you landing on your knees on this move?

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Speaker 4: We know that you get hurt on this move. But

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Speaker 4: what I didn't think of it to be a work

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Speaker 4: until I saw the rich Eisen interview, because what are

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Speaker 4: the I'm not I don't believe in coincidences. What are

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Speaker 4: the coincidences that he has a rich Eisen interview scheduled

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Speaker 4: right after he gets hurt, Like that was the old

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Speaker 4: tailtale sign that this is a work, Like I thought

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Speaker 4: it was real at first. Then I saw the interview,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, this is now work. So now

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Speaker 4: I just think you guys are thinking too deep into it.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes the easy answer is the right answer, because it's easy.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna cash in on that Gunther and seem Punk match,

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Speaker 4: probably after CM Punk wins, because he has said one

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Speaker 4: thing since coming back every single time, I will make

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Speaker 4: sure CM Punk is not a world champion in WWE.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to make sure that happens. You can't have

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Speaker 4: the heel a and you have the best in the

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Speaker 4: world argument between them both. But I also went back

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Speaker 4: and I saw what he said to John Cena in

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Speaker 4: that match in Saudi where he said, Hey, this is

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Speaker 4: not about you. This isn't about this cash in type.

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Speaker 4: This isn't about this money in a bank, Briecase, this

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Speaker 4: isn't about you. It's not about the title. It's about

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Speaker 4: CM Punk. I'm going to make sure Sam Punk is

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Speaker 4: not a champion. And you almost lost, so guess what.

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Speaker 4: I just brought you back from the dead. That is

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Speaker 4: all it is. He's I don't think he's cashing in

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Speaker 4: on Sena because he said every single step along the way,

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Speaker 4: I really don't care about anything except I'm being a

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Speaker 4: top tier hater and making sure Siam Punk is not

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. Those are two very interesting points

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Speaker 1: Iseth All's gonna cash in or not? And you know what, Dreyll,

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Speaker 1: thought I was gonna say, it's the same movie got

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Speaker 1: injury in air quotes is a work, so hopefully we

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Speaker 1: That's the place to go. So let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: Women's World Championship match. Naomi minus a thousand, Rea Ripley

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Speaker 1: plus three hundred Eosky plus six hundred Troll Furman Junior.

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Speaker 1: You've had your finger on the pulse here on this

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Speaker 1: division lately, so why don't you take this one away?

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Speaker 1: What's the pick? What's the and can we make some

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Speaker 1: money on it? The year of Nao Me, It's the

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Speaker 1: year of this, oh me.

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Speaker 4: This is years in the bacon.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy.

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Speaker 4: I wish that everybody could have seen my reaction with

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Speaker 4: she cashed in that briefcase. I'm telling you right now, hey,

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Speaker 4: this may not be a long haul. This may not

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Speaker 4: be one of the longest reigns ever. It doesn't have

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Speaker 4: to be. But she's gonna get her moments, and you're

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Speaker 4: telling me. Not only did she get one moment over

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Speaker 4: Rhea and Yeo, but she's going to get to because

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Speaker 4: she's winning this match. She's not dropping the title in

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Speaker 4: the first No, no, she's not dropping the title.

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Speaker 1: So this is even.

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Speaker 4: More and more fuel to just building Naomi up over

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Speaker 4: the course of this entire year. They are giving her

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Speaker 4: legit work. And I have an angle of why I

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Speaker 4: think Naomi's gonna win, but I'll save that for a

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Speaker 4: little later. But I'm telling you right now, Naomi's pulling

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's minus the thousands, you get really better.

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Speaker 1: And I think Tyler, you agree to remember a few

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Speaker 1: years ago, not that long ago, we had a title

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Speaker 1: defense there for Naomi against Natalia at a SummerSlam. Remember that,

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Speaker 1: those big matches. And I'm with Trella this one's it's

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Speaker 1: too soon to make any sort of change. I know

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Speaker 1: all that? If you're gonna take it away so quickly?

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Speaker 1: So this is a hard pass for me. I'm where

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Speaker 3: How about you, Tyler, Yeah, I got to agree with

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Speaker 3: you there too. I just think it's too early in

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Speaker 3: feel like this is kind of one of those matches

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Speaker 3: It should be a great match, I think for sure.

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Speaker 3: And then after this, I think all three of them

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Speaker 3: will be. And for the sake of Torell continuing that

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Speaker 3: dancing I do hope that we're right and Naomi does

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Speaker 3: win that, but you can't bet this match.

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Speaker 1: I don't think dance party is the right answer. I

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Speaker 1: find that to be the case in all things every

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Speaker 1: show I do with him. Women's Internet Continental Championship Match. Look,

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Speaker 1: they've done a good job of eloping this title, which

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Speaker 1: it needed desperately. So the whole Becky Lynch Lyra Valkyria

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think between this match and then the

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Speaker 3: Jade Cargill match with Tiffany Stratton later, those are the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I agree, Bailey's Involvement's gonna happen one way

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Speaker 1: let's get to the tag team match. Randy Orton in

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Speaker 1: look at this one here. Jelly Roll has certainly gotten spelt,

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Speaker 1: But like, somebody's got to eat a pin here, it

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna be Randy Orton, Drew McIntyre, And that only

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not how these matches in. You could say

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Speaker 4: Hey, if you want to go throw a pizza on

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Speaker 4: this and throw it on Drew McIntire, Logan Paul, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: You just lost a free pizza. That's all I can say,

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Speaker 4: because I mean, it's clear that Randy Orton and Jelly

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Speaker 4: which was Randy Or and Drew McIntyre, and then they

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Speaker 4: But I feel pretty confident in saying, yeah, Randy Or

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Speaker 4: and in Jelly Roll are gonna win this match. Indeed,

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Speaker 4: the baby face always wins these kinds of matches.

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Speaker 1: You know what, it's it's fun that we're saying these

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Tyler. What's your take on this celebrity

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you, guys, do you think is

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Speaker 3: But I do have to agree with Terrell. I think

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Speaker 3: it goes. I think you who knows going to get

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Speaker 1: He dresses up like the Gobblygooker and maybe he dresses

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Speaker 3: I don't know. And I think the big thing too

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Speaker 1: God, you know, I totally buried in my brain that

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Speaker 4: I just think that after Bad Bunny, like everybody should

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Speaker 4: was a great match.

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Speaker 1: Bad Bunny was great.

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Speaker 1: I guess I love a match. He's not a big

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was really a fan of the Floyd Mayweather

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Speaker 3: That's really the Lord match almost.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get to uh WW Women's Championship match, don't

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Speaker 1: you know? As if you couldn't keep those straight anymore?

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Speaker 1: six hundred against Tiffany Stratton plus three fifty. So, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: what's your take on this contest? Here the last of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so similar to the Becky Lynch match. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: They are trying to, you know, improve that division there.

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Speaker 3: But when I just look at the plus three fifty

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Speaker 3: I think Jay does win this match. But if you

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Speaker 3: plus three fifty. I don't think even if you want

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Speaker 1: Terrell, where are you staying with the pizzas and the

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Speaker 4: I'm wasting a pizza again. I'm trying to tell you,

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Speaker 4: like y'all just giving away free pizza around here, because

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you all, j Cargill and Naomi is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but would even a company to do that.

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Speaker 4: Is when moving on to Crown Jewel and you have

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Speaker 4: What is putting Naomi all the way over the top.

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Speaker 4: She wins money in the bank, she wins the Women's

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Speaker 4: had yet. I'm sold on Naomi and Jade with this

428
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Speaker 4: final I know, meeting at Crowd Jewel, both of them

429
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 4: holding titles, and plus the Tiffany experiment we keep talking

430
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,919
Speaker 4: about is being lackluster every single time, like at some

431
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 4: point they're gonna be like, Okay, she can't be the

432
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 4: champion no more, Like that's just it, It's over.

433
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Speaker 1: It's tough. She's in that weird role where she's a

434
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 1: heel character, but the crowd wants to cheer her and

435
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 1: she she hasn't had a good foil to kind of

436
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,439
Speaker 1: pull that out. It hasn't worked yet. Like you know,

437
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: put Charlotte and everybody wants to boo her. You can't

438
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 1: make her the face like that's the problem. It's like

439
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: you're in a weird situation with the pairings they've done.

440
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 1: And look at It's like Tiffy's got a great career

441
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,120
Speaker 1: ahead of her. She's got a lot of wrestling left

442
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 1: ahead of her, and she wouldn't be the first person

443
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 1: whose first title run was lackluster, right, She's gonna have

444
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 1: many ahead of her. If you look at a lot

445
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: of the women's you know, you could say, well, that

446
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 1: first one was even EO for instance. Right, that's a

447
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: great example. NXT runs were great, but like our first

448
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 1: women's championship at the main roster, it was a little lackluster.

449
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 1: Like this didn't look at very well. Hopefully, you know,

450
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: second time around will be better. Hopefully the chase again,

451
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: it's the baby face. She wanted to chase little bit too.

452
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 1: So I'm wear you guys, I like where you're looking

453
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: ahead too. Let's get to the Men's Intercontinental Championship match. Here,

454
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Speaker 1: I've got strong feelings about this one. Dominic Masterial minus

455
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: one fifty AJ Styles plus one ten. This one's close,

456
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: which is hilarious. If I told you this three years ago,

457
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: do you laugh me off this podcast? But you're gonna

458
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 1: even take it further because I am putting the minus

459
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Speaker 1: one fifty down for Dominic Masterial. Why because it's good

460
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: television and it's just working and you don't muck with

461
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Speaker 1: a winner. And right now that's where dom Isterrell is

462
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: nodding his head. Tyler, you are in agreement as well.

463
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Speaker 1: Will we three for three on this one? Tyler? Do

464
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Speaker 1: you have anything to add on this frontier with the

465
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Speaker 1: Dominic Masterial.

466
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Speaker 5: Oh?

467
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Speaker 1: Look, it's just working. You just don't screw it up.

468
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: Just keep it going and AJ Styles will carry him

469
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: to a good match because he's AJ Styles exactly.

470
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Speaker 3: I think AJ Styles is in the stage of his

471
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: career now where he doesn't need any titles. He's just

472
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Speaker 3: there to help the younger guys, elevate them a little bit,

473
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 3: give Dominant Castio a great match, add something to his

474
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 3: character where he can go out there and have that

475
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Speaker 3: twenty minute match if he wants to and really put

476
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Speaker 3: on a banger. And I think that's really the only

477
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Speaker 3: reason that AJ styles is there. Don't mess with a

478
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: good thing. There's too much more meat on the bone

479
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: with Dominic mysterio as the Intercontinental Champion. I think it'd

480
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: be terrible to take it off from here, and it

481
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 3: doesn't do much for a J. I don't think.

482
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Speaker 1: Therelle anything to add there.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that we're still on this crash

484
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Speaker 4: course of Finn and Dom. I think that's how this

485
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 4: ultimately ends in the end. And so I've already kind

486
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Speaker 4: of convinced myself, all right, if it's not Finn and

487
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 4: we haven't gotten to that part of this story, then

488
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,239
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Dom every single time, no matter who

489
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 4: he's going up against, and even against AJ, like AJ's

490
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 4: been like Terry Crews was, and everybody hates Chris. When

491
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 4: you sleep, I'm gonna be there when you want to

492
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 4: grocery stewer, I'm gonna be there when you in a match.

493
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be there like he's got him over on

494
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 4: him every step along the way in this bild, like

495
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Speaker 4: Dom is going to come out on top and the

496
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 4: crowd is behind Dom. Whether they love them or hate them,

497
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 4: they're behind them all right.

498
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Speaker 1: Next one here, solo so CoA Jacob Fattu, United States

499
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Speaker 1: Championship Terrell. I am enjoying this solo socoa run. I

500
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Speaker 1: think this is it. And you were ahead of the

501
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: curve here once again on this one. So again it's

502
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: two times in one show. So the month is coming

503
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Speaker 1: to an end. I filled my quota of saying nice

504
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: things to you and telling you you're right. After this,

505
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: we go right back to normal in August. So I

506
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: don't want him to give this up. I want I

507
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: want the solo thing to continue on. I think it's

508
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: again good for business. Keep the chase going. Jacob Fattu

509
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: is red hot anyway, he doesn't need it. Let him

510
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Speaker 1: continue to chase. I'm good with this. I want solo

511
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Speaker 1: to stick. It's minus one forty and I think that's

512
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Speaker 1: the way this one's gonna go too.

513
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Speaker 4: Turell, Yeah, I just don't know how. Like I love

514
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Speaker 4: the steelcage stipulation and it kind of gives you somewhat

515
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 4: of an equalizer. Of course, we know that the MFCs

516
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: are getting involved with this match, and we'll see some

517
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: Jimmy Uso in this as well, But like, how does

518
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: this end? Is this a Jacob Fatsu destroys everybody? And

519
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: I mean, what's Tomatanga doing? Is he healthy? Is he

520
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: making a surprise with turn here? What's going on? I'm

521
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Speaker 4: really just kind of very confus used.

522
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Speaker 1: I think as soon as they announced the stipulation they're

523
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Speaker 1: putting in the cage, was like, oh, that's great because

524
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: now Solo continues because you don't have to you know,

525
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: pin Jacob Fatu clean. There's a million ways to get

526
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Speaker 1: out of this, you know. To me, the stipulation was

527
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 1: the thing kind of telling me is like, Okay, we're

528
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Speaker 1: going in this direction. We're going to push this a

529
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Speaker 1: little further. And I think it's the right way to go.

530
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: Of course, speaking of awful celebrity wrestling moments, you could

531
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Speaker 1: also have RoboCop show up and rip the steel cage off,

532
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, like you did help Sting all those many

533
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: years ago. But I'm wonder robo cops are doing these days.

534
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: But anyway, Tyler, you're looking at this one here, I

535
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: feel like you keep the belt on Solo and you

536
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: let this push a little bit further because you can,

537
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's gonna wake up fat too,

538
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: because you've got in a situation where you can get

539
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: a screw job kind of ending here and keep them strong,

540
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: not make them look weak, and keep this feud going.

541
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Speaker 1: Because I actually think this one's good for business too.

542
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree on it, And this might be a

543
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: deep cut. And if remember when TNA did the electrified

544
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: steel cage match, I think the boys are in it.

545
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: If you touch the steel cage, you were electrocuted. But

546
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: it was obviously fake and it was these really awful

547
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: sound effects and everything. So I'm glad they're not going

548
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: that route for this one. But you know, continuing the

549
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: tradition at SummerSlam of good cage matches, I do think

550
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: this could be a great one. I think you have

551
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: so many you always have so many different ways to

552
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: go with a cage match. You can do the double

553
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 3: foot finish at the same time if you don't want

554
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: other restler to lose, you can have all kinds of

555
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: chaos on the outside of everybody trying to get in

556
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 3: the ring and doing all that. But I do agree,

557
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I think what's the

558
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Speaker 3: point of having Fatu win here? It just sort of

559
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 3: kills the momentum of both, whereas you can keep the

560
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: chase going, you can lead to bigger things for both,

561
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: even if it's not necessarily against each other. So I

562
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: think it kind of ends the story of Soka wins

563
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: this one here and Fatu, I think it just deadens

564
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: his momentum a little bit, even with a win. So

565
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Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think have Sokoa win this year,

566
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 3: you can either keep it going or keep branching it off,

567
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: as they're going to keep doing with the bloodline anyway.

568
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: So I think it's a great stipulation. I actually think

569
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Speaker 3: this could be This could have the potential to steal

570
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: the show and be one of the best matches of

571
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Speaker 3: the night, especially with all the chaos we might see.

572
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: But if I'm picking a winner and I'm betting on it,

573
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 3: I'm betting on Sokoa.

574
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Speaker 1: Was that against Lax that much?

575
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: Think?

576
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: So? Yeah?

577
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 3: It was one of the.

578
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Speaker 1: Worst things ever. Yeah, let's go all right. All that

579
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: we have left is well to Giant Championship matches. Cody

580
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: Rose John Cena two. I hope the sequel is better

581
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: than the first one, and I can't even blame the

582
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: guys almost it was like doomed to fail from the

583
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: get go. And look looking at this right now, Cody

584
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Speaker 1: Roads Mine is three hundred John Cena plus two hundred.

585
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Tyler, I mean, where are you at

586
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: with this one? I just feel like it's we're just

587
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: gonna say it was just move on. We're gonna move

588
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: on the whole scene of things since the moment the

589
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: hug happened. After that, it was a great moment. Everything

590
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: after that, to me, there's a couple of good promo moments.

591
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's been completely letdown, I think. And

592
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: it's funny because I don't know if it's because we

593
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: knew it was short lived and we knew it was

594
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Speaker 1: gonna come to an. Had we not known there was

595
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: a date where it was expiring, maybe we'd feel differently

596
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: about it. But it just felt like this inevitable, like, oh,

597
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: this is fun, but it's like five years, six years

598
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: too late, Whereas like the Hogan one, especially now that

599
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: we're like, you know, going back in the day and

600
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: like watching stuff again, you know, it's so red hot

601
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: because it was, it shocked everybody, just like the SNA one.

602
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: Everybody always wanted to see it just like that, but

603
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't have an expiration date, so it can go

604
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: on and on. I wish the nWo did because eventually

605
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: it had one too many people in it. But what

606
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: do you do here? Is it just so easy as

607
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: just you know, taking the belt off Sena and figuring

608
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: out from there, or is this some sort of odd

609
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: ending that we don't see coming. Yeah?

610
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 3: I think once Virgil of Vincent and the yettiw I

611
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: think that was over there.

612
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

613
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm in the same boat. I wanted

614
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: to see a heel thing to happen. It was such

615
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: a cool moment when it did. And then I've hated

616
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: it and I've wanted to love it. But I think

617
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: the reason that I don't like it was it it

618
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 3: just it's so strange as scenea who he was an actual,

619
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: legitimate Hollywood actor. Now it just seems so fake. It

620
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: just seems so wrestling. Yeah, and it just doesn't come

621
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: off as his argument of why he's doing this just

622
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: doesn't feel legitimate. And I don't know if it's because

623
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: you know, k Fabe is dead, so he's going on

624
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: these interviews and he's not really doing the character. I

625
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but his motivations just don't

626
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: feel authentic, they don't feel organic. He's gonna ruin wrestling,

627
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: then you would just not come back at all, Right,

628
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: Like it just has never really made sense to me

629
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 3: from jump. It's a cool idea, but it's just felt too.

630
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 3: It actually reminds me speaking of Hogan. I remember Kevin

631
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: Nash did an interview where when nWo first started, and

632
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: Hogan's doing these you know what you're gonna do, brother,

633
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: and Nash was like, this doesn't feel real because Hogan's

634
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: cutting wrestling bromos. We want it to be more real.

635
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: And it just reminds me of the same thing with Sina,

636
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: Like it just feels too wrestling especials.

637
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: Anyway, right, because like Peacemaker is probably the best thing

638
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: he's ever done. Yeah, had he done a character that

639
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: was a little bit like I'm your champion, I'm the greatest,

640
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Speaker 1: and I'm completely out of and I have no idea

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Speaker 1: about reality. That's actually a character right in his wheelhouse

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Speaker 1: that would have been better. This other character that seems

643
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Speaker 1: just kind of I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know, And it's the half measure of like not wanting

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Speaker 3: to really change his gimmicks they want to keep selling

646
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: the merch like it just feels like they've been willing

647
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Speaker 3: to go all in on it.

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Speaker 1: Which tells you it's never right, which tells you it's

649
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: like the commitment level is still just do it to Terrell.

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00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: What happens here? Do we get the John Cena plus

651
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Speaker 1: two hundred cat, you know, continuing to move on with

652
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: the beltier and somebody else takes it off because he

653
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: can't have Cody lose again Like that. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You can't have Cody lose to John Cena twice. That's

655
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Speaker 1: the That's why I keep saying the match that needs

656
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: the money in the bank is this one, because this

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00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: has like no winner from this one. Nothing, there's no

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Speaker 1: good I feel I can come from this again.

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Speaker 4: Well, no good definitely comes from John Cena winning. I mean,

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Speaker 4: what's next? What is Like I've always felt like one

661
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: I didn't want him to win it in the first place.

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00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 4: When he won it, I was very intrigued in the

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Speaker 4: promos because I thought the promos we were crafted pretty well,

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Speaker 4: and how he would play along with the crowd and

665
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: all of that. Like, I actually like the probo work

666
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Speaker 4: and what's been going on. It's just the overall it's

667
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: the overall of like, oh, now you're randomly fighting Randy

668
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Speaker 4: or now you're randomly fighting Siam Pung, Like there's no

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Speaker 4: build in the storyline and it's just these world tour

670
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Speaker 4: of farewell tour of matches of guys I want to

671
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: have one last match with and so it's like, okay,

672
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: so what's next, Roman Rings? You about to have a

673
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: one on one match with Roman Rains for the title

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00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: here in twenty twenty five, Like, I don't know, So

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00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: it really just hasn't been interesting. I think that Cody

676
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: has way more storylines and that are still in the chamber.

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00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: Cody and Randy still in the chamber, Cody and Romans

678
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: still in the chamber, Cody and Punk still in the chamber.

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00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: Like there's a whole bunch of storylines that Cody Rose

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00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: can go that can lead all the way to Mania

681
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: and years beyond with the title in John Cena, like

682
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: it's just kind of over Like he's he doesn't even

683
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: have dates for the end of the year. When you

684
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: look at the dates that he says he's coming back left,

685
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: it's like pay per view, pay per view, nothing in between.

686
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: So like, what am I supposed to believe you're doing

687
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: with a championship and you're not having these in between

688
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: dates like it just doesn't make sense to me. So

689
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: I think it's over. I think the street fight is

690
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: gonna be the way where they decide and we'll see,

691
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Speaker 4: hopefully it's not nothing weird where he turns face again

692
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: randomly because these little face turns that they've been seizing.

693
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: I'm just like, it just feels too quick, it feels

694
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: too rushed. Like I thought, if you're gonna be a

695
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: he'll be a heel all the way to the end.

696
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Speaker 4: But it's not me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, it's because of the style of

698
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: the match too. I think there will be shitanigans, I

699
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: just don't know which kind it's gonna be. Lastly, ww

700
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Speaker 1: World Heavyweight Championship match them Punk minus two hundred Gunther

701
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Speaker 1: plus one fifty Torell. Where are we going with this one?

702
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: And I guess the question is, do we get the

703
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: cmpunk victory then the cash in of seth rawlins or

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Speaker 1: do we get the cash in in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the match, Which would I assume to gate this wager?

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Speaker 4: Potentially right, maybe I would assume it definitely, How.

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00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: Does that work. It's not something I've really thought about, right.

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00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: Because yeah, like I didn't get to see what was

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00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: the response when everybody was taking EO and Rhea and

710
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Speaker 4: then Naomi came through. I should have went through and

711
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: saw what was the response to that. But yeah, no,

712
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: I really think that it's Punk Punk is going to win.

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: I think that that's the reason that you had gun

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Speaker 4: thro get a second rain with the title one, because

715
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: you had to do that Goldbert last matching needed gun

716
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: there to have a title during that match and not

717
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: lavit being this random thing, and then also for him

718
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: to lose it to see him punk, you need to

719
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: give Seam Punk that shining moment. He's been back in WWE,

720
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: and yes he's been booking himself to lose things. Yes

721
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: the chase is fun, but at some point Sam Punk

722
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 4: has to win and he has to win big. He

723
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: got his moment. They're getting to beat the opportunity to

724
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: beat in this match, and then I think it's gonna

725
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: happen with him beating Gunther, but it's not gonna be long.

726
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: Like I think Seth Rollins is coming down the tunnel immediately,

727
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: and because of the fact that the match that we

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Speaker 4: didn't talk about because it's so heavily favored Rum and Range,

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Speaker 4: jy Uso bron Breaker and Bronson Reed happens right before

730
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Speaker 4: this even gives me more faith of Okay, those two

731
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: are gonna lose funnel the bag and then we're gonna

732
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Speaker 4: get into this last match and then here comes Seth

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00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: Rollins out of nowhere. So I very much, wholeheartedly believe

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Speaker 4: that Seth Rollins is cashing in on CM punk here

735
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: and Seth Rollins will be the new world heavyweight champion,

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Speaker 4: and that's gonna be your big moment. That's gonna be

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00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: the thing that says, yep, you see Night one of

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00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: SummerSlam was a bang, wasn't it. We got a new

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00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: world heavyweight champion and you thought Seth Rollins was hurt.

740
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Speaker 4: Maybe people that kind of follow along a little bit

741
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: more are seeing through the work, But a lot of

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00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: the casual fans are going to be dead shot when

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00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: Seth Rollins music plays walks down in that briefcase.

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Speaker 1: We're just not casual around these parts. Tyler wrap it

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00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: up for us, gun Ther CM punk Slash, Seth Rollins

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Speaker 1: perhaps question.

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Speaker 3: Mark fragile ego, fragile body, weak mind, as John Moxley

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00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: put it, coming at this from the perspective that Seth

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Speaker 3: Rollins doesn't cash it in, because I do think, as

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00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier, that's probably the big thing we

751
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: see at the end. But let's take that out of

752
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: the equation. Let's just say it's one on one.

753
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Look.

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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: You can say everything you want about Triple H and

755
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: cmpunk mending fences, the reality is they hated each other

756
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: for the longest time. Vince McMahon's really the one that

757
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: had the relationship with Punk to begin with, and Triple

758
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: H is smart, he knows how to make money. But

759
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: since Punk came back, he's only thirteen and eleven. No,

760
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: it's predetermined, but he's only thirteen and eleven. He's forty

761
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: six years old. We saw what happened the last two

762
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: times he won the aw World title, a combined rain

763
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: of about three hours, and he's already been hurt once

764
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: fairly severely in the WWE. So do you take it

765
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: off someone gun through who I know he made his

766
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: name for himself on the indies, but you know, in

767
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: WWE terms you could call him a homegrown talent. Are

768
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: they going to take the belt off him? Put it

769
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: on CM punk and you're getting plus one fifty on

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Speaker 3: gun There Because my big question is, assuming there's no

771
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: cash in it, straight up, GUNTHERER loses that title, then

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00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: what's next? Like is he the one that now ends

773
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: up chasing Cody Rose? Does he have a match with

774
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: John Cena? Like, I don't know where that character goes

775
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: or what he's chasing motivations are.

776
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: He just can't have belt to keep losing in these

777
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: big things, That's the thing. It's like, Look, he lost

778
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: it WrestleMania forty He's gonna lose WrestleMania forty one. Like

779
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: how many times are we gonna have him lose at

780
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: these big events? Like he can't be a monster if

781
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: you keep losing all the time.

782
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 4: Think about it, we're having you lose at these big

783
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: events because you don't lose any other time in the year.

784
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: You're eighty five percent win rate in the Yeah, like

785
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: you don't lose any other time.

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Speaker 1: Walter Slash Gunther, what he was is this iconic you know,

787
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: these runs that he would go on for year, year

788
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: and change stuff like that. And if they're going to

789
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: finally get him to that level, he's got to have

790
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: a run like that at some point. So again, this

791
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: is gonna be really interesting to see Punk keep saying

792
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: he's here to take pins, you know, that's what he's

793
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: here for in the stage's career. Does he get one

794
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: more championship? Maybe? And if he does, this would be

795
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: the one to do it. But what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Drop your comments below? Does seth Rolins cash in? If so?

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