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Speaker 5: All right, welcome to day three of the Patriots Unfiltered

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Speaker 5: Draft Extravaganza. We're gonna be here from one pm Eastern

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Speaker 5: to three pm Eastern. It's Mike do So, Evan Lazar,

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Speaker 5: Paul Parrilla, myself, Matt and the booth and let's get

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Speaker 5: right to it. While we were away, the Patriots had

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Speaker 5: two picks in the fourth round, the third and the tenth,

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Speaker 5: and Mike, you want to go over who they pay?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well, I was gonna let Evan do the guard. No,

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Speaker 6: I want to start with you on Baker because no,

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Speaker 6: I think it's another It's a good pick. And you know,

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Speaker 6: he was every guy, a mock draft guy for me,

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Speaker 6: definitely had some heat around him, you know, coming in

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Speaker 6: Uh here thought like later in the draft he was

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Speaker 6: But started at Alabama, has a good pedigree, tough with

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Speaker 6: it feels, you know, similar to me like Polk yesterday,

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Speaker 6: some people will will pourn out qualifiers on both of them,

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Speaker 7: Good wide receiver picks.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I tell us about the guard. I can tell

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Speaker 8: I am a little bit surprised, obviously a little bit

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Speaker 8: I mean to me that that's probably the best pick

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Speaker 8: It also shows me that those guys are watching some film,

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Speaker 8: They're both guys that can win in traffic, that can

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Speaker 6: Can I just say one more thing too, like this

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Speaker 6: They talked about weaponizing the offense, and I think that

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Speaker 5: They probably like five or six Blue Chippers in this draft,

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Speaker 6: So if you're a Patriots fan right now, I think

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Speaker 8: Ram I couldn't agree more though. I mean I tried

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Speaker 6: Know, like laying out like vertical, you know, And that

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Speaker 6: There's a good video of Steve Smith breaking him down.

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Speaker 5: Twenty eleven Super Bowl against the Giants. He makes that

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Speaker 7: I mean, I really like Baker too. There's a lot

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Speaker 7: you have that stud number one, no questions asked. Even

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Speaker 5: If you can't have hope, you don't want to have hope.

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Speaker 7: That's my point. Actively I'm not trying to tell you

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Speaker 7: it's going to be you know, Isaac, but they drafted

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Speaker 7: have to do it again. Like we all get it.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's no guarantees in the draft. We understand,

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Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of you know, Elliott Wolf

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Speaker 7: keeps saying, we want to be a draft and developing team, right,

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Speaker 7: do both. And I think that's really where they've fallen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, listen, all you know, since the

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Speaker 5: you know, again the old saying, don't look at what

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Speaker 6: You know, if you're one of these guys that has

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Speaker 7: Every one of those guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean, but I mean those guy

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Speaker 7: You know, so all those.

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Speaker 5: Going forward, the Patriots don't have a fifth round pick,

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And let's face it, if Drake May is who

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Speaker 5: He hits, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 8: If he's a franchise quarterback and he's as good as

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Speaker 8: I think he could be, then whether we took Jalen

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Speaker 8: sleep over it, right, And I think that's ultimately what

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Speaker 8: You know, if Lad McConkie goes on to be Cooper

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Speaker 8: You know that that's That's that's where the draft gets interesting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's what I like about the draft because

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Speaker 7: say all three of those guys, even though I would

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Speaker 7: say doesn't take much, but they've dwarfed, but they've gotten

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Speaker 7: out of of Taekwon't even those more I think has

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Speaker 7: I would watch, and we talked about it at nauseum

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Speaker 7: and he's having a hard time, that's going to get fixed.

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Speaker 7: The NFL will fix that. If you know, if he

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Speaker 7: get fixed at the NFL level. That's something that that's

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Speaker 7: worth the second guess because he definitely had more talent

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I would also say with Caden Wallace, the

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Speaker 8: thirteen offensive tackles went before the Patriots pick at sixty eight,

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Speaker 8: So at some point if they were gonna address offensive

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Speaker 8: guess that too? Maybe a little bit. If he ends

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Speaker 8: But you know, I've heard that a lot, and I

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Speaker 6: I mean, wouldn't you say too Evan that that media

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Speaker 6: easy to look at a wide receiver and be like,

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Speaker 7: But to watch a guarter attack.

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Speaker 5: Hard, Well, I don't know if it's harder. I mean

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Speaker 5: I think they look at this guy. I think they

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Speaker 5: does he have the technique? If you can do that,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well then teams do. But I just like, you know,

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Speaker 7: So, Paul, who is this guy? Hey, Matt Morrell, are

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Speaker 7: I think that's the what's up brother guy on on

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Speaker 7: TikTok if I'm if I'm not, I'm not.

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Speaker 6: On TikTok like you, PAULA.

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Speaker 7: Well, I you know, I do not even well, no,

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Speaker 7: it's illegal. I don't know, right, I don't even have

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Speaker 7: I don't even have the app. But you know, kids

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Speaker 6: You got kids that are doing this.

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Speaker 8: The one guy that I that, Yeah, that's the guy,

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Speaker 7: See I'm okay third round. Going to the most Sunshine

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Speaker 7: maybe he is a singles hitter than he's a bust

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Speaker 7: And you know the kind of couple you know, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think Baker can be really good. I think Baker

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Speaker 7: Now, one of the things that Gash besaid that kind

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Speaker 8: So McMillan's faster. I don't know if that necessarily he's not.

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Speaker 8: more explosive on film. But I had all these guys,

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Speaker 8: Liked I would have taken Troy Franklin probably, which would

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Speaker 8: have been way too soon, apparently.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I was a little disappointed that we didn't get

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Speaker 7: my guy, only because I kind of liked him. But

435
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Speaker 7: Baker and Franklin, those are the two guys that I

436
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Speaker 7: I started hearing about late that they had in for

437
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Speaker 7: the thirty visits and I'm glad they got one of

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Speaker 7: those guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, it's just you know, when I

440
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Speaker 6: went back last night looking a little bit of Polk,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's it's an apt comparison. I mean, jee,

442
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Speaker 6: Doug Kidehos went to Washington, he washes Washington kind of

443
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Speaker 6: had some similar tweets that I did. I was thinking

444
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Speaker 6: about the last night, and like he plays similar to

445
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Speaker 6: a Dunsa, Like a Dunsay is just like if someone

446
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Speaker 6: pumped up Jalen Polk for like another couple inches and

447
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Speaker 6: another like twenty pounds, which is just like you know,

448
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Speaker 6: a Dunsay is like a freak. But a lot of

449
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Speaker 6: the catches that you see Polk make, it's not it

450
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Speaker 6: exists in a bubble. It's not because you know what

451
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's going up getting crazy catch and he's

452
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Speaker 6: holding onto to the ground, he's popping right back up.

453
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Speaker 6: He's just he's one of those guys. The whole vibe

454
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Speaker 6: I get from him, it's just this guy loves the game.

455
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Speaker 6: You look at like his history, I mean, you know,

456
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Speaker 6: I know the comp to Jacoby Myers, who was a quarterback.

457
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Speaker 6: This kid got offered by Illinois after his freshman after

458
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Speaker 6: he made the team in East Texas, which is we

459
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Speaker 6: all know what the football is like there, got offered

460
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Speaker 6: by Illinois after his freshman year. He's a star in

461
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Speaker 6: seven on seven. So everything that we talk about the

462
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Speaker 6: evolution of the league and how there's just an explosion

463
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Speaker 6: of wide receivers like, this kid has been on the

464
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Speaker 6: forefront of all of that. So it's as much as

465
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Speaker 6: people say, Jacoby Myers, I just don't love the comp

466
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Speaker 6: because I feel like this kid is a pure receiver

467
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Speaker 6: and he plays the game like a receiver, and he

468
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Speaker 6: runs hard, he finishes plays. So I'm willing to I said,

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Speaker 6: I said earlier, I'm willing to die on the Jalen

470
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Speaker 6: Polk hill now after the last time, I'm like, I

471
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Speaker 6: came into milk toast on him. I gotta be honest,

472
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Speaker 6: it's just, you know, and I don't know what I'm watching.

473
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Speaker 6: I just I've been doing this for a while though.

474
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Speaker 6: I'm going to go, but I'm going to defend you.

475
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Speaker 6: I don't think you a milk toaster. I thought both

476
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Speaker 6: of you guys were very high on Polk last night.

477
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Speaker 6: I hope it came a credit. Get rid of reiterating

478
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Speaker 6: a lot of the same thing.

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Speaker 8: I think the big thing for a lot of Patriotons

480
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Speaker 8: and myself included in my gut when they made the pick,

481
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Speaker 8: was like number two receiver, right, And that's for a

482
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Speaker 8: team that's been searching for the white whale for five

483
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Speaker 8: six years now. Of that stud number one receiver, whether

484
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Speaker 8: it's inside, outside, tight end, whatever, it doesn't make a difference, right,

485
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Speaker 8: just that number one playmaker, that coverage dictating player. I

486
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Speaker 8: don't necessarily think Jalen Polk is that. I think Jalen

487
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Speaker 8: Polk is the possession receiver that's gonna move the chains,

488
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Speaker 8: it's gonna make the tough catches, it's gonna be the

489
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Speaker 8: gritty guy in the middle of the field, and is

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Speaker 8: gonna be a high volume guy. But not necessarily in

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Speaker 8: that tier of Jamar Chase, you know, Aj Brown, those

492
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Speaker 8: types of guys. But as it kind of soaked in

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Speaker 8: a little bit, I was like, well, did I really

494
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Speaker 8: expect them to get that guy at thirty seven?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 8: You know that that's I had maybe those in this draft, right,

497
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Speaker 8: and maybe Brian Thomas Junior, who went twenty picks before

498
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Speaker 8: Jalen Polk did. So, did I really think that that

499
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Speaker 8: was gonna happen and in this draft that they were

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Speaker 8: going to be able to address quarterback and wide receiver.

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Speaker 8: And me come away from that saying, they have Joe

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Speaker 8: Burrow to tomorrow and.

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Speaker 5: They pull off some trade for either Samuel or you know, uh,

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Speaker 5: are you now let's go? Let's go?

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Speaker 6: Well, I would say, I mean, in my opinion, I

506
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Speaker 6: think that the trade that that that's pasted.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that there. Yeah, I'm a little less

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Speaker 7: in on that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, they don't have the assets they'd have

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Speaker 5: to go into next year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The other thing with Jacoby Myers, I don't hate the

514
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Speaker 8: comp because the one thing that I always thought that

515
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Speaker 8: was really weird about all their misses at receiver were

516
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Speaker 8: that they had guys like Jacoby Myers who were udfa's

517
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Speaker 8: or late round picks that were the ones that actually

518
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Speaker 8: work out, like Pop Douglas right too. And yet in

519
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Speaker 8: the early rounds when they draft receivers, they draft totally

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Speaker 8: different guys from the ones that work here. You know,

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Speaker 8: they draft Taekwon Thornton, or they drafted Nikhil Harry and

522
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Speaker 8: you're like, but the shifty, smart, savvy hands catching receiver,

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Speaker 8: Jacoby Myers is the one that works, So why are

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Speaker 8: you drafting the four to two guy that can only

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Speaker 8: run in a straight line. To me, Jalen Polk is

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Speaker 8: like if Jacoby Myers had a second round profile in

527
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Speaker 8: the draft. You know, if you had like a souped

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Speaker 8: up Jacoby Myers. I thought felt the same way about

529
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Speaker 8: Jalen McMillan, both Washington guys. So even though he's a

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Speaker 8: better prospect and a better player than Jacoby was coming out,

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Speaker 8: if he's in, you know, a little bit better version

532
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Speaker 8: of Jacoby Myers, and then that's a really good pick.

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Speaker 5: YEP Web Radio at Patriots dot com is the email

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Speaker 5: address eight five to five past five hundred, Ford and Savannah,

535
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Speaker 5: Georgia writes in thanks for the amazing coverage and entertainment.

536
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Speaker 5: While I like poke at wide receiver, I also got

537
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Speaker 5: a sinking feeling when we passed on a number one

538
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Speaker 5: wide receiver in Fred's guy, Lad McConkey. I'm a lifelong

539
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Speaker 5: Patriots fan who has lived in Savannah for the past

540
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Speaker 5: sixteen years. I'll admit brock Bauers opened things up for

541
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Speaker 5: Ladd and also admit to not watching every single Washington

542
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Speaker 5: game like I have every Georgia game. But Ladd is

543
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Speaker 5: an insight outside receiver with all the trades who seem

544
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Speaker 5: always magically open Puka Puka nikua style. My theory on

545
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Speaker 5: the trade down as is it was a scouting blind

546
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Speaker 5: spot to try and make impressive fourth round picks while

547
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Speaker 5: undervaluing picks closer to the top. Please tell me I'm

548
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Speaker 5: wrong and I'm just suffering from former wide receiver PTSD

549
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: picks in the Patriots draft.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I had, Like I said earlier, I

551
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Speaker 8: had Lad McConkie and Jalen Polk in the same tier.

552
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Speaker 8: So I don't view Lad McConkie as a number one receiver.

553
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Speaker 8: I think Lad McConkie was a number one receiver in

554
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Speaker 8: color is a high end number two receiver as a

555
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Speaker 8: ceiling in the same way that Jalen Polk has a

556
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Speaker 8: ceiling as a high end number two receiver. They're very

557
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Speaker 8: different players. You know, Lad McConkie was the bursty, explosive technician.

558
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Speaker 8: Jalen Polk is the tough, gritty hands catcher, runs over

559
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Speaker 8: the middle, does all the dirty things. That's a stylistic preference.

560
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Speaker 8: You know, if you if you wanted the guy that

561
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Speaker 8: created a lot of separation at the top of the

562
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Speaker 8: then you're into Lad McConkey. The Patriots were into a

563
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Speaker 8: guy that has a little bit more place, right, a

564
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Speaker 8: little bit more grit to him and toughness.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's and then going back to last night,

566
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Speaker 6: we were kind of talking about the contested catch guys

567
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Speaker 6: and you know, you're like, I, this is what this

568
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Speaker 6: is what I prefer, you know, like this is just stylistically,

569
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Speaker 6: I'd rather than like a six to four guy who's

570
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Speaker 6: just gonna go down the field that like, I want

571
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Speaker 6: guys with the ball in their hands that finish plays,

572
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Speaker 6: that are tough, that can make the tough catches, and.

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Speaker 7: I would probably split it in the middle. And I

574
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Speaker 7: understand exactly what you're talking about, Mike, And to go

575
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Speaker 7: back to what the what Evan was talking about a

576
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Speaker 7: little while ago, there's a reason. Yeah, like there's a

577
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Speaker 7: lot of those guys with that profile that have worked

578
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Speaker 7: for New England and you're like, well, why don't they

579
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Speaker 7: just take more because you don't need to take those

580
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Speaker 7: guys early in the draft because you can get them,

581
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Speaker 7: you know when you get them. Now, what gets lost

582
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Speaker 7: sometimes in New England is it worked with Welker, who

583
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Speaker 7: they acquired. It worked when they drafted Julian Edelman in

584
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Speaker 7: the seventh round. They made the transition and it worked.

585
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Speaker 7: I would say largely with Jacoby Myers as an undrafted guy.

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Speaker 7: There's a dozen I could rattle off for you that

587
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 7: didn't work. Oh yeah, but that's where you get those

588
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 7: guys because you don't have to draft them. You don't

589
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Speaker 7: have to draft him with high picks. But if you want,

590
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Speaker 7: as Evan used it perfectly as an example, if you

591
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Speaker 7: want a guy who does everything like Jamar Chase, you

592
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Speaker 7: gotta pay for that. You gotta draft him high. And like,

593
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Speaker 7: so I understand Mike's point, like I don't want the

594
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Speaker 7: cit I don't want Devonte Parker. Yeah, okay, yeah, DeVante

595
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Speaker 7: Parker is a guy who this full disclosure, I absolutely

596
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Speaker 7: loved Devontae Parker coming out of Louisville. I think he

597
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Speaker 7: went with like the fourteenth pick.

598
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Speaker 8: He wasn't more explosive to Miami.

599
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Speaker 7: I loved him. I wanted him so bad. I was

600
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Speaker 7: pissed when Miami got him. I thought he was pretty

601
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Speaker 7: good for Miami and then he just was always hurt

602
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Speaker 7: and I was like, this guy's no good like, I

603
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Speaker 7: don't want a six or four guy who can't separate

604
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Speaker 7: and only wins jump balls and only makes contestic catches.

605
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Speaker 7: He makes plenty of plays, and every once in a

606
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Speaker 7: while he has great games. He had a great game

607
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Speaker 7: against the Patriots to knock him out of the bye week,

608
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Speaker 7: you know, back in twenty nineteen, remember that one. But

609
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Speaker 7: he's not consistent enough to be a fourteenth overall pick

610
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Speaker 7: of the draft.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The other thing I just drew a quick fight just

613
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Speaker 6: that I like about these two receivers is that they're

614
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Speaker 6: both like six to one and change to ten. I mean, they're.

615
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Speaker 5: Athletic, not that slight.

616
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Speaker 6: I got good size, and they're not big guys, but

617
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 6: they got good thickness, good size. I like the dimensions

618
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Speaker 6: of both of them.

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Speaker 5: Wan in Mexico says, with the wide receiver picks and

620
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Speaker 5: with pop and Born, are they trying to be similar

621
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Speaker 5: to the Packers' philosophy with a bunch of good wide

622
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Speaker 5: receivers without a true number one.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that that's a philosophy. I don't think

624
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Speaker 8: that's the actual goal. I just think that's the way

625
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 8: the board fell for them. After taking the quarterback.

626
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Speaker 11: They tried to get Calvin Ridley, remember, yeah, you know, Yeah,

627
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 11: but I do think that Polk Baker, I think those

628
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 11: guys are very very Green Bayy, just in terms of

629
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Speaker 11: their skill sets and their profiles and things.

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Speaker 7: There's a guy that I was thinking of last night,

631
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Speaker 7: and I think I saw Greg Bodard tweet about it,

632
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 7: Jordy Nelson. Yeah, is there any do you have any

633
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Speaker 7: Jordy Nelson because I don't really look at Polk as

634
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Speaker 7: Jordy Nelson, like I saw Greg write that last night,

635
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Speaker 7: and I've always thought of Jordy Nelson as kind.

636
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Speaker 5: Of explosive on the other Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I like Watson, who you talked about, not that

638
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 7: kind of speed, but.

639
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like the comps that I've heard. You know,

640
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Speaker 8: Tyler Boyd better Jacobe Myers, you know, if you want

641
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Speaker 8: to go ceiling ceiling ceiling Keenan Allen Right, Like, I

642
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 8: likes the.

643
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Speaker 7: Tyler Boyd last night that Phil Perry had and that

644
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 7: was from a league executive that he supposedly got there from. Yeah,

645
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Speaker 7: I liked that because I I Tyler Boyd's another guy

646
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Speaker 7: had a crush on coming out of Pit. I thought

647
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 7: he was a perfect Belichick kind of guy.

648
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

649
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 6: I think that's part of why I was a little

650
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 6: bit frustrated last night, is that I said this before.

651
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 6: Comparison is the thief of joy, Like, you know, like

652
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 6: the second these guys are drafted, you got to put

653
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 6: him in a pre existing box. You got to put

654
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 6: an X Y Z one two three on him, you know,

655
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 6: and then you just instantly put him into a box.

656
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 6: And it's like, I just watch him. I don't have

657
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 6: to put him into a box. I like the way

658
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 6: that this two places.

659
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 7: You know, it's funny, exciting to happen, and I I understand,

660
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 7: like I love the cops, and I understand why they

661
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 7: do it makes it easy, right, Like this is what

662
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 7: you understand what I'm saying, Yeah, Tyler Boyd. So now

663
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 7: everybody says, oh, I know Tyler Boyd. The problem with

664
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 7: it is you might think Tyler Boyd is really good.

665
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 7: Someone else might think Tyler Boyd, that's it.

666
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 6: Right, that's that, and that's the ceiling right there of

667
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 6: what he's going to.

668
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 7: I think Tyler Boyd's had a really good NFL career.

669
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 7: I look at that as a real compliment, you know.

670
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 7: And then someone says high end, like Evan just did

671
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 7: Keenan Allen. I think Keenanell. Now, I know someone that

672
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 7: we work with who rarely wears socks, who thinks Keenan

673
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 7: Allen sucks.

674
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 8: It's bad.

675
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 7: He thinks he stinks. So like it's all in the beholder.

676
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 7: So like the cops, I get why they do them,

677
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 7: but sometimes they don't what you want them to do.

678
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 8: Yeah. I just think in terms of where he wins

679
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 8: on the field, the route that he runs, and I

680
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 8: know you get this. I'm just explaining it, you know.

681
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: Uh.

682
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 8: I think that's those are the types of guys that

683
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 8: he's not gonna run by people at four five two.

684
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 8: He's just not gonna be a burner that's gonna run

685
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 8: by people. But I think the thing that I keep

686
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 8: coming back to with both these guys is that they

687
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 8: drafted a quarterback who is not Tom Brady and Drew

688
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 8: Brees with accuracy like this is not a guy that's

689
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 8: gonna fit it through a keyhole. He's gonna throw it

690
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 8: generally in the right area of where the ball is

691
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 8: supposed to go. And Polk and Baker both have size,

692
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 8: they both have length, and they both have hands that

693
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 8: they can go ahead and if Drake May is a

694
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 8: little bit off, is the throws a little bit low,

695
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 8: then these guys are gonna go and get the ball.

696
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah. Now, if Polk doesn't work, if he

697
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 7: doesn't work, is there any like Aaron Dobson kind of

698
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 7: vibe with Polk?

699
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: I don't know.

700
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 8: I really saw Aaron Dobson to me in this draft

701
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 8: was key on Coleman. Coleman had that one catch against

702
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 8: who was it? I think it was Miami, But I'm

703
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 8: blanking where he has one catch where he goes above

704
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 8: his head like there's one handed catch and pulls it

705
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 8: down and his teammates have like their hands on their

706
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 8: heads like holy crap. And that Aaron Dobson catch reminds me.

707
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 6: That big though I think Dousin seems stiff to me,

708
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 6: I don't.

709
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

710
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 6: I just don't see that with Polk. They seem like

711
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 6: different players just the way they play the game. I

712
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 6: I don't know.

713
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 7: I said, if he doesn't.

714
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 6: Work, well, if he doesn't work, I don't really see

715
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 6: him being stiff. And you know, I think if he

716
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: doesn't work, yeah, I mean.

717
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 8: That that's if he doesn't work. The comp that I

718
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 8: would use if he doesn't work is Juju smith Suster

719
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 8: last year. Now there you go, right, I would see

720
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 8: that more. That's that's still okay. He can't run away

721
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 8: from anybody, ju you.

722
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 5: Know Belichick, you know he if a quarterback, they have

723
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 5: to be able to get open and catch the ball.

724
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 5: You know, guys that don't work generally, it's one of

725
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: those two things. They can't get open and when they

726
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 5: get open, they're they're dropping the balls.

727
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 6: Whether they physically can't get open mentally can't understand how

728
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 6: to get open. Yeah, you know, And I think that

729
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 6: is one of the things with Polk that mentally it

730
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 6: seems like he understands, you know, how how it kind

731
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 6: of all works. But like I said, I think both

732
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 6: these guys are just you know, they're football players. They're

733
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 6: they're gonna be fun to watch. And that's I think

734
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 6: that's the biggest thing for me is is you know,

735
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 6: just after three days, you've got you finally got something

736
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 6: to be interested in about the Patriots offense. When we

737
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 6: get out you know, to OTAs in a couple of weeks,

738
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: I mean camp like yeah, I like, I mean it's

739
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: the most fun thing to watch when we go out

740
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 6: to see a new young quarterback and two young receivers

741
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 6: out there during OTAs.

742
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 5: I'm excited, Joe writes in some talk about comparing Poke

743
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: to Puka Parker, and now Paul is saying he heard

744
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 5: Jordan Nelson, what about Bobby Trees?

745
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 8: I don't know who that is? Robert Okay, it's like

746
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 8: pauld tell me who that is? Bobby from the nineteen.

747
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 6: Secon didn't scout Bobby Trees.

748
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 8: I thought it was like an I thought it was

749
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 8: somebody from like the nineteen eighties. I'm not gonna lie.

750
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 2: Uh.

751
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 7: I guess I could see that bit.

752
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily see the Puka Nicula comparisons because Pooka

753
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 8: is so fast with the ball in his hands.

754
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't think we're saying on Twitter last night

755
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 7: that no one thought that Pooka Nicole was a number one,

756
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 7: number one type receiver. Sorry, I don't mean torupt you,

757
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 7: even though he's not the number one receiver for the

758
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 7: Rams either.

759
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 6: Heck of a quote here from Javon Baker. Uh, come

760
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 6: to the home stadium and bring your popcorn. That's all

761
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: I can tell you. Bring your popcorn. I make people

762
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 6: in wheelchairs stand up. Love that, Love that, Yeah, Yeah,

763
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 6: We're gonna need you to walk that one back.

764
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 7: When did he When did did he say that? Just

765
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 7: now I'm a little less high on him than I was.

766
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 8: The wheelchair thing is not. I don't love that.

767
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 7: No, I know, I know what Evan's talking about. The

768
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 7: wide receiver with swaggers never a bad thing as so

769
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 7: long as he can play.

770
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: Got some swagger. He got swagger like us, uh, getting

771
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 6: ready to work blue at the swagger.

772
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Speaker 8: I like deuces energy, I love juices, and especially because

773
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 8: I have nothing exactly right, it's picking us all up

774
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 8: right now.

775
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 7: I'm not sure what I dropping right into the show.

776
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie.

777
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, uh, you know, I think I got

778
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: a credit Twitter because it's like you read these comments

779
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 6: and you're like, are people insane?

780
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 7: Like what are you even watching?

781
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 6: Like how could you make that compent? I get I

782
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 6: get it. You're gonna hate everything they do, no matter what,

783
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 6: and you're just an angry Patriots fan who like hate

784
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 6: roots for the team now, But like, if you can't

785
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 6: be happy right, where are you gonna be happy? Like

786
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 6: once the game start, it's all reality and then then

787
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: it's like, well, actually, Jayleen Pulp stinks you know, like

788
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 6: then you start to find out the truth. But at

789
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 6: this point we can live in fantasy land where everybody

790
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 6: works out and.

791
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 7: It point like I'm not telling you, like, drop everything

792
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 7: you got, man and make make let's start making plans

793
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 7: for the for the playoff. Like I'm just telling you

794
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 7: you should have some hope. You drafted a quarterback, you

795
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 7: drafted a couple of receivers, you have new guys in place.

796
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 7: Why don't you hope it's gonna change for the better? Yeah,

797
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 7: you know, and then if it doesn't, okay, you get

798
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 7: disappint I'm like, you can't just like, so, well, I

799
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 7: don't want to get my hopes up, because then they're

800
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 7: just gonna stink. You know, I'm not then that way,

801
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 7: Like you're gonna be disappointed either way.

802
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

803
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 8: So the comp that I had used and I just

804
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 8: wanted to double check with what I had written for

805
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 8: Baker is Romeo Dobbs in Green Bay. And that twenty

806
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 8: twenty two Packer draft, they drafted Christian Watson in the

807
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 8: second round, and then they drafted Romeo Dobbs in the

808
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 8: fourth round. They have and then all of a sudden,

809
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 8: now Jordan loves got weapons, you know, he's got receivers

810
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 8: around him. You have to think that that was kind

811
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 8: of the model for this draft with Elliott Wolf. No,

812
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 8: is that second and fourth round receivers. Take two of

813
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 8: these guys, one inside, one outside, just like we kind

814
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 8: of did in Green Bay. And you know, they did it.

815
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: And they kind of did it the opposite. They went

816
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 7: with the guy, you know, the outside guy in two

817
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 7: and the the more versatile guy for right, and then

818
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 7: the tight ends the next year.

819
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: The new thing with receivers. And compared to the spider chart,

820
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 5: have you seen that, I'm not draftable?

821
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

822
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have the spider Shark, but he

823
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 5: got and Darth skeptical rites in.

824
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Ye.

825
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 7: I like that name.

826
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 5: He says, what's the difference between Poke and Baker? That

827
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: makes Baker a wide receiver one? And Poke a wide

828
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: receiver too? They have both similar measurables basically the same height, weight,

829
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: and forty times. I don't think either one's a wide receiver.

830
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 7: Did anybody say that Bakers?

831
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 12: Now?

832
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 8: I think this goes back to what Deuce says, though,

833
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 8: people associate X receiver with one with one right and

834
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 8: that because he's outside right.

835
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 7: So like just out of curiosity your wide receive.

836
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 5: Your wide receiver one is your best wide receiver now.

837
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 6: There, unless it's your tight end.

838
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 7: There are actually well like Kansas City's wide receiver one

839
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 7: is Travis Kel.

840
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 6: Well that was when I continued our argument from last

841
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: night in my head as I was trying to go.

842
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 7: To sleep, and a lot of ones.

843
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 6: So then, you know, and like we were talking about

844
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 6: twenty ten with Moss right like, so he falls off

845
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 6: you know to your point. Well, you know, and then

846
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 6: then kind of Gronk became the one, right, I mean,

847
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 6: that's you know, how it evolved.

848
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 7: But there are a lot of ones right now that

849
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 7: aren't necessarily you know, boundary receives that that are just

850
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 7: on the outside of that. I mean, like Tyreek Hill

851
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 7: is Miami's one.

852
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not an ex well and you'd think that,

853
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 6: like and you'd like to be able to move that

854
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 6: guy around. You don't want him just you know, going

855
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 6: onto the outside lining up on the line of scrimmage

856
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 6: every single snap. You want to play with him and

857
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 6: be able to you know, get a better batch.

858
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: Up for me. A wide receiver one is you need,

859
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 5: you need a play, and who's your go to guy

860
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: for me?

861
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 7: It's where does the coverage go?

862
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well even you know, I thought, I mean, look,

863
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 6: let's let's we got to call it out like Bill,

864
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick's been awesome, like with some of the analysis,

865
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 6: the stories that have been popping up. I mean, I

866
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 6: think it's it's my favorite Bill Belichick other than you know,

867
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 6: when he's executing a great gamecome but storytime, Bill is wonderful.

868
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 6: Told the whole story about Randy Moss. We've heard that

869
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 6: before the seventeenth time for the seventeenth time. But but

870
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 6: again Belichick on the on the board that too. I mean,

871
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 6: anytime he's doing real football. But but he was talking

872
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 6: about telling Moss, you know, we're gonna move you into

873
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: the slot, and he's like, move me into the slot.

874
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 7: You know.

875
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: But it's like those kind of things that you know,

876
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 6: illustrate how you can move those guys around.

877
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 7: Even though Randy.

878
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 6: Moss is probably the purest of pure number one X

879
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 6: receivers out there.

880
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: Let's see Terrence writes in look at aman Ross Saint

881
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: Brown fourth round pick, combine numbers. I guess he's not

882
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: a high end wide receiver and he just signed a

883
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 5: top five contracts.

884
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe another number one receiver who's not an.

885
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 5: X Maybe the Lions shouldn't have picked him either. My

886
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 5: fellow Patriots fans need to chill out and let's see

887
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 5: how they develop. I see the vision. The development comes next.

888
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 5: Believe in Wolf in Mayo.

889
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 8: I would not use on Mon Ross Saint Brown as

890
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 8: a common for polk, but Mon Ross Saint Brown is explosive.

891
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 7: No, but what I'm saying I think with it's the

892
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 7: same thing with Pooka and Akua. I don't think there's

893
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 7: the same kind of player. I don't think necessarily think

894
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 7: the email and I might be speaking for the emailer incorrectly,

895
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 7: but I don't think he's necessarily comparing the skill set

896
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 7: as much as mid round. You know, mid round picks

897
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 7: that weren't necessarily thought of as being good enough that

898
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 7: have certainly proven to be good enough.

899
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 8: That's what I never understood why I'm on Ross Saint

900
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 8: Brown fell he had he had great college college table.

901
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 6: That sounds sounds like your kid going down to Florida

902
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 6: for college. I'm TJ Tampa.

903
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: Now, Dad will call TJ Tampa.

904
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 8: I did not get it with I didn't see it

905
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 8: with TJ Tampa.

906
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 7: I didn't take him. I was laughing a little while ago.

907
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 7: A punter got taken. Now, if there was out, if

908
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 7: there was a punter in college football that you would

909
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 7: be interested in, who maybe probably got more work than

910
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 7: any other punter in the history of punting, who would

911
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 7: it be but College Iowa? They had about three first

912
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 7: time and that rough, tough, big ten, you know, like

913
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 7: the Iowa punter is a guy that I'm interested in

914
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 7: because I don't know he probably punted two hundred and

915
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 7: eleven times last.

916
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 6: Well, how but he's like a running back. He's got

917
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 6: too many reps on his leg already, right, and he's

918
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: gonna have.

919
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 7: A short his best days of behind him. Too many carries, sore.

920
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 6: Leg, he's got a dead leg. Now, it's just you

921
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 6: can't do it.

922
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 7: It's oh, he's an Aussie too. Tory Taylor, fourth round pick.

923
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 7: He went to it's not bears.

924
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 6: We're just flying through them now, huh. This is the

925
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 6: point in the draft where you kind.

926
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 7: Of did the Chiefs take him?

927
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 8: Chiefs are good at this, Chiefs, the Chiefs and who

928
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 8: is I mean the Ravens have had are always good

929
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 8: at this too.

930
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 7: The Eagles, it's annoying.

931
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 5: Eight five five pasts five hundred. Let's go to the

932
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 5: ace to get outline. Chris is in California? What's up, Chris? Chris?

933
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: Chris is gone? How about Christian in LA? What's up Christian?

934
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 10: Right? Hey you guys, Happy Saturday to you.

935
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

936
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 13: Hey, So for me, the draft is going well. I

937
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 13: wasn't so much as Drake may guy, and now I'm

938
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 13: on board. I love Jalen Polk. Yes, I had the

939
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 13: same of my raw Saint Brown comparison. I love the

940
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 13: tackles and the guards. We have their big bodies, they

941
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 13: can move a little bit. They'll give us the least

942
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 13: a starting point for what we what we need.

943
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 10: I like this guy Baker.

944
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 13: He's got a little bit of that diva that pops

945
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 13: that dog.

946
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 10: As they say, I would not mind.

947
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 13: If for the last two picks, if we took a

948
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 13: running back and then a cornerback. And then my question

949
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 13: for you guys is this, If everyone hits the way

950
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 13: we think, let's say sixty percent of their potential, how

951
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 13: many wins do you think it gets us for this

952
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 13: next year? And second question, if they do hit, does

953
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 13: it accelerate Drake starting you know position?

954
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 10: Does that mean Drake to start this year? If all

955
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 10: the guys that we got to fill the holes sort

956
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 10: of hit, not completely, but just sort of all right,

957
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 10: thank you guys.

958
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 5: Well, if Drake only sort of hits, we're in trouble.

959
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 7: No, I would I would say, I'd say, you're looking

960
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 7: at five wins. But no, I don't think that these

961
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 7: guys have anything to do with when you play Drake May.

962
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 7: The only one that should have anything to do with

963
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 7: that is Drake May.

964
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if Drake May only lives up to sixty

965
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 5: percent of his potential, we're in trouble.

966
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 7: Well that's yeah, I agree with you, Like I'm not

967
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 7: taking them. Yeah, you're right, you're absolutely right. That's what

968
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 7: he said. If they all hit sixty percent, that's not

969
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 7: a good thing. But I would say, like if you,

970
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 7: if you, you have to evaluate Drake May on his

971
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 7: own and you have to decide when you think he's ready.

972
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 7: Like that has nothing to do with Oh my god,

973
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 7: do you see how good Polk is doing? And Baker,

974
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 7: we got to get Drake May in there. If he's

975
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 7: not ready, he's not.

976
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 5: Ready, yep. All right, So we're gonna have Matt Grow

977
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 5: joining us in a little bit. So as soon as

978
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: he's ready, and behind the mic, we'll we'll we'll go

979
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: to him. Uh So we had Elliott Wolf on day one, yesterday,

980
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 5: we had Cam Williams. Today, we're going to have Matt

981
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: grow So good representation of the war room. So I assume,

982
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 5: you know, we'll ask him about the last two picks

983
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 5: that the Patriots had.

984
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be uh be good to ask

985
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 6: him about you know, these guys, and you know, I

986
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 6: think it's well, I mean, I'll save it for my

987
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 6: question for him, but I just think you can you

988
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 6: can see the plan. I mean, obviously they needed offense,

989
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 6: and I am a little bit of a defense guy,

990
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 6: so I'm a little sad right now. Maybe we could

991
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 6: get but you know, I think that they've they've stocked up,

992
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 6: you know, a number of positions that they need to improve.

993
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 6: You know, probably the two most glaring or three most

994
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 6: glaring positions. You know, Drake May we'll see what happens

995
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 6: in terms of his development. But the other ones they're

996
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 6: they're putting guys in there and we'll see how the

997
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 6: competition plays out. I'm sure that's what they're hoping for.

998
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 8: So much about it is that sometimes yeah, there's something

999
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 8: to be said for just stacking talent and not caring

1000
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 8: about positions. But I also think what what they're doing

1001
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 8: is you can see where this guy's going to play

1002
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 8: and where that guy's going to play, and all these

1003
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 8: different pieces offensively where there are complimentary skill sets to

1004
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 8: each other, let alone just the fact that they are

1005
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 8: positions off.

1006
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 7: That was going to be my question.

1007
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 8: And it's kind of like building that they've they've you

1008
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 8: can see where they're going in terms of building the offense,

1009
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 8: whereas sometimes I feel like in recent years they make

1010
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 8: a pick and you're like, Okay, but where's that guy

1011
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 8: going to get on the field? You know, And I'm

1012
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 8: not trying to kill them for past draft, but you know,

1013
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 8: like Mapho or even Keon White and you're like, Okay,

1014
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 8: I can see what they see in the player, but

1015
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 8: Marty Mapho is kind of parried on the depth chart.

1016
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 8: Isn't he behind six box safe?

1017
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: Oh?

1018
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 7: And That's what I was going to say. Why you know,

1019
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 7: I keep using the word hope. Why I'm so much

1020
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 7: happier about what's going on right now than I was

1021
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 7: at this time last year because not because of necessarily

1022
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 7: the players or how good they're gonna end up being

1023
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 7: I didn't know then, I don't know now, but you

1024
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 7: can see the idea of what they're doing. Last year,

1025
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 7: everybody thought the same thing people thought this year, except

1026
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 7: for the quarterback, and they went corner, which was in need,

1027
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 7: and then defensive lineman, hybrid safety, linebacker. That's still I mean,

1028
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 7: I know I got yelled at by someone last year.

1029
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 7: I still don't understand what the idea was with Mapoo,

1030
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 7: and so this year it's like, well, they need wide receivers,

1031
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 7: they got two of them. They need tackle they got that,

1032
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 7: you know, they drafted one. Yeah, I mean the quarterback,

1033
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 7: like Evan said earlier, that was really you know, that

1034
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 7: was there. That's a no brainer. But I understand what

1035
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 7: the thought process was.

1036
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love what I think Elliott said it to

1037
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 8: us on night one that days two and three that's

1038
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 8: really where the scouts go to work, right like the

1039
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 8: first day taking the Drake. Maybe not to take anything

1040
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 8: away from anybody in the war room, but Paul could

1041
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 8: have taken Drake May with the third overall pick in

1042
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 8: the draft, could could.

1043
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 7: You know, by the way, taking Drake May att two

1044
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 7: as well.

1045
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like at this point of the draft is where

1046
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 8: like I said earlier, there are some options, and they're

1047
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 8: all kind of in clustered together, and you're gonna pick

1048
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 8: one guy, and the team next to you is going

1049
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 8: to pick the other. And you hope that your guys

1050
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 8: the better guy in the long run, and that those

1051
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 8: are where the really good evaluators separate themselves. And I

1052
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 8: think you know last year's draft with MAPU, My guess

1053
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 8: is is that Bill Belichick wasn't going to pay Kyle Duggart.

1054
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 8: So yeah, and so that that was the next Kyle Duggart.

1055
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 7: But I don't think that there was any I don't

1056
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 7: think there were any indications that they could allow Kyle

1057
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 7: Dougle to leave based on anything MAPU had done. Fair enough,

1058
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

1059
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 8: But if Bill was still here, do you think Kyle

1060
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 8: doug I think that's what the thought process.

1061
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 5: I think that's a good point. If if had lit

1062
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: it up, then maybe they would have let him.

1063
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 7: Go, right, Yeah, that's probably good. So, uh, your Detroit Lions,

1064
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 7: who I know how you get all hot and bothered

1065
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 7: about what the Lions are doing. Keep the pants on.

1066
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 7: The Lions are good at this good football play.

1067
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he can play running back if he

1068
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 8: can play running back and can play special teams so

1069
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 8: he can play safety.

1070
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, he felt like he was mine when you asked

1071
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 6: your your little pole there about who's.

1072
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 7: Going to be a pain? Why my little pole always

1073
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 7: has to get involved in these conversations.

1074
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 6: We love your little pool.

1075
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 8: He's he's day three Cooper de jen.

1076
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 7: Who I know. I know who Paul loves by the

1077
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 7: personal safety. Can't get enough of them, get.

1078
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 8: Them hot and bothered. Jayden Higgs a good player to

1079
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 8: the Chiefs again, man, I mean, come on, like, what

1080
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 8: are we doing?

1081
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 7: Like Evan like liked every player draft, Jayden Hicks was

1082
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 7: the Chiefs.

1083
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 5: He dropped a little.

1084
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 8: Bit, did drop a little bit?

1085
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1086
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 8: I thought he was the best safety in the draft.

1087
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 8: And I know I'm not alone. I think Dane Brugler

1088
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 8: had him as the best safety in the draft.

1089
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 7: Jayden Hicks was thirty nine in the Beast.

1090
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 8: That's why I said the Chiefs are good at this.

1091
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 8: It's annoying that xavior worthy. Jayden Hicks gired Wiley.

1092
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 7: You think he had to walk around the block with

1093
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 7: a baseball bat? Yeah, damn today yesterday.

1094
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1095
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 7: You think Jayden Hicks, like you know, had five other

1096
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 7: save six other safeties taken so far, and he's like

1097
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 7: got a list now he's on the share.

1098
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 8: Well, he's he's a he wasn't a. He's a pure

1099
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 8: box safety. He's Kyle Duggar. You know, he's very similar

1100
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 8: player to Kyle Duggar. So not exactly. Oh, they got

1101
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 8: King the Chiefs just they got Kingsley to you just

1102
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 8: remembered that grand is unbelievable.

1103
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 7: Don't you remember when they took They took Kingsley last

1104
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 7: night and I read them homesweek like Beach.

1105
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean like you get the Billach the bills

1106
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 8: game gave Xavier Worthy and I will never forgive them

1107
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 8: for that.

1108
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 7: Like, what are you doing?

1109
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 8: Unbelievable.

1110
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 5: Let's get to some of the phone calls while we

1111
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 5: wait for Matt gro to join us. John's in South Beach.

1112
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: What's up John?

1113
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 14: Everyone? So I was a little.

1114
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put you on hold. Hold on, John, we

1115
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 5: got macro, Matt. Can you hear us? Hey, Matt, thanks

1116
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: for taking the time. I know you guys are busy.

1117
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 5: I'm here with Mike do So, Evan Lazarre, Paul Parol, myself.

1118
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: Tell us a little about these two fellows that you

1119
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 5: took in the fourth round.

1120
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 15: Laden Robinson out of Texas A and M. You know,

1121
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 15: really excited to add him at some you know, the

1122
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 15: interior play in this league. When you can get a

1123
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 15: good player, you know, there's there's a lot to be

1124
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 15: said for that, especially here in the fourth round. Three

1125
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 15: year starter at A and M. Coach at Dasio a

1126
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 15: name that you know a lot of a lot of

1127
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 15: Boston people are are probably familiar with coaching the O

1128
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 15: line down there, so you know what you're gonna get with.

1129
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: With coach A. Dazioh.

1130
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 15: You know, tough, tough minded, you know, tough physical guys

1131
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 15: on the field.

1132
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 10: So you know, able to.

1133
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 15: Speak to him and some other people down there at

1134
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 15: A and M and you know, really saying the praises

1135
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 15: of Leyden and then you just you know, you put

1136
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 15: the film on and you can see the power that

1137
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 15: this young man has and we're able to spend some

1138
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 15: time with him before Pro Day and you know, get

1139
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 15: him up here and and so there's there's a high

1140
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 15: comfort level with Leyden and what you can bring to

1141
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 15: the table for us.

1142
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: Yep, that just along those lines, you know, along the

1143
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 6: offensive line, you took Wallace last night. You know, I'm

1144
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 6: looking at my little unofficial death trap and it looks

1145
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 6: like eight tackles, you know, a bunch of interior guys,

1146
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 6: including the three that you guys select did last year.

1147
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: It feels like the offensive line overall is going to

1148
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 6: be a spot that that's kind of righte for some competition.

1149
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's what we wanted all spots in this competition.

1150
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 15: And and that's how you get better is having guys

1151
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 15: compete against each other each day and then you know,

1152
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 15: be able to go out there and compete their best

1153
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 15: on Sundays. And uh, there's there's not many worse feelings, uh,

1154
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 15: you know than being tackle poor. You know, so I

1155
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 15: don't want to say we're we're tackle rich. You know,

1156
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 15: these guys are going to have to go out there

1157
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 15: and prove themselves and develop and really excited about you

1158
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 15: know what coach Peters can do with a lot of

1159
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 15: these guys. But again to be able to add you know,

1160
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 15: a talented experienced player. This guy started a ton of

1161
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 15: games and then Big Ten know what we're getting from

1162
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 15: from coach Franklin, you know at Penn State and and

1163
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 15: you know, all those games in the Big Ten you know,

1164
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 15: you're getting this as well prepared of a player at

1165
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 15: that position as you can hope to get.

1166
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 5: You picked up Javon Baker, you had Poke already selected.

1167
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 5: How do these two receivers complement each other?

1168
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 15: Yeah, so you know Javon's played a little bit of acts,

1169
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 15: played a little bit of slot. You know, this is

1170
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 15: a kid who went to Alabama, you know, so they've

1171
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 15: got a pretty good knack of finding wide receivers out

1172
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 15: of high school. They don't just offer anybody to come

1173
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 15: play that position there. Obviously, Coach Saban and his staff

1174
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 15: and everything that they've done, they know what they're looking for.

1175
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 15: So didn't work out for Javon at Alabama hasn't worked

1176
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 15: out for a few guys at Alabama.

1177
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: You know, you can come up with.

1178
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 15: Some pretty pretty good name for players who started there

1179
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 15: and and go on, I won't list the names off.

1180
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 10: You know who they are.

1181
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 15: So you know Javon and then you know remember being

1182
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 15: down there his first game at UCF a couple of

1183
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 15: years ago saying, WHOA, who's this guy? Uh, so you

1184
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 15: could see the talent right away and to get him

1185
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 15: with with Jalen with JP and start working here with

1186
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 15: Drake to try and build chemistry. It doesn't just happen overnight.

1187
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 15: And now you've got a couple of guys who who

1188
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 15: can grow with Drake. You know, you're not talking about

1189
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 15: a free agent, you know who. You know, those deals

1190
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 15: aren't aren't always four years now, and now we've got

1191
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 15: guys who can grow for four years and and that's

1192
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 15: that's really nice to to be able to establish that

1193
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 15: kind of.

1194
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 8: Relationship Matt with Jalen and Javon. The other thing that

1195
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 8: we've been talking about a lot is you know how

1196
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 8: tough they are and on contested catches and winning those

1197
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 8: passes outside their catch ratses are are pretty large as well.

1198
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 8: How important was that for you guys to have two

1199
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 8: guys that that can go out there and be really

1200
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 8: good hands catchers for Drake?

1201
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 15: Absolutely the contested catch you know, that's that's what this

1202
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 15: league is. If you can't make some of those, then

1203
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 15: then it's going to be tough. And you want guys

1204
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 15: who can can be open even even when they're covered.

1205
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 10: Uh.

1206
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 15: And to have guys like JP and and Javon to

1207
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 15: be able to go up and snatch the ball out

1208
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 15: of the air.

1209
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 5: Uh.

1210
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 15: You know that's that's an important.

1211
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 5: Trait to have, h I know, you have to get

1212
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 5: back to work, but quickly, any curve balls that you've seen,

1213
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 5: you know, throughout the draft, things that you didn't expect

1214
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 5: to happen, that kind of you know, said wow, that

1215
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 5: that was not on our radar.

1216
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'll leave those comments inside the draft room. The

1217
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 15: eyebrows that go up inside the draft draft room, I'll

1218
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 15: leave those in there.

1219
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 7: So no, no, it's a good question.

1220
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: It's a good question.

1221
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 7: But do you feel bored.

1222
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 15: I'm not going to give myself in trouble on that

1223
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 15: on somebody else's draft.

1224
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 6: Do you feel bored today?

1225
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 7: Matt?

1226
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 6: You had nine picks last year on day three? Are

1227
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 6: you a little bit more relaxed than with a few

1228
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 6: less picks.

1229
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: When you start off with a bang here?

1230
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 15: You know, when we were at one o three kind

1231
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 15: of had an idea as to how that was going

1232
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 15: to fall. But it comes quick at you and then

1233
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 15: you know, with the accelerated clock at at five minutes,

1234
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 15: it's it's moving. Yeah, you know right now, you wish

1235
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 15: it was moving a little bit faster. But you know,

1236
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 15: there's always deals that we're fielding and we're reaching out on,

1237
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 15: so rarely are we just sitting there toddling our thumbs saying, okay,

1238
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 15: we got forty five more picks, which is about probably

1239
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 15: where we are right now until we pick so right,

1240
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 15: who knows, by the time I get back in there,

1241
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 15: we might be on the clock.

1242
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 7: Okay, so Macro just packaging those two sixth round picks.

1243
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 7: We're going to get into the fifth round, so you

1244
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 7: don't go anywhere, everybody, We're gonna be on the clock momentary.

1245
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 5: All right, Well, well, Matt, we'll let you get back

1246
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 5: in there, but thank you for joining us. We appreciate

1247
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 5: your time.

1248
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 8: Thanks, Matt, appreciate it.

1249
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 12: Thanks for the covering, Matt.

1250
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 5: All right, Matt grow coming to us from the war

1251
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: room with some analysis on the fourth round picks.

1252
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 7: And the fifth round is underway by the way.

1253
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I like that.

1254
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: Appreciate the coverage was, you know, that's all we do.

1255
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 6: We covered the team, So thank you. Yeah, yeah, appreciate

1256
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 6: your appreciation.

1257
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1258
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 8: I was Laden Robinson was a senior Bowl guy, and

1259
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 8: so I was down there and Macro was leading the

1260
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 8: Patriots contingent on there because Elliott was up here with

1261
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 8: Girodd filling out the coaching staff at that time. So

1262
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 8: it was Macro, it was Cam Williams who we talked

1263
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 8: to yesterday, and those guys that were really running the

1264
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 8: show in Mobile. So obviously they must have come back

1265
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 8: from Mobile and said, hey, this card from A and

1266
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 8: M is pretty good and here we are.

1267
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 5: All right, we'll go back to John and South Beach.

1268
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 5: Thanks for holding on, John.

1269
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 7: John, what's up?

1270
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 14: Okay, this is not what I was going to call about.

1271
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 14: But is there like this weird phenomenon of Bill guys

1272
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 14: who kind of their voices sound like Bill over time?

1273
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 5: I think so, Yeah, that's good.

1274
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 6: I think Steve, Steve Belichick, Nick I thought sounded a

1275
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 6: lot like Bill.

1276
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: A little bit.

1277
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was a little disappointed, slash skeptical of how

1278
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 14: the off season has gone this far. But you know,

1279
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 14: call me and Mark, call me. You know that's that

1280
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 14: total Phill was Tom or whatever. I'm not like a

1281
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 14: draft person at all, but after these first few picks,

1282
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 14: I'm kind of feeling a little opeful, and I'm wondering,

1283
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 14: here's my question, are we ushering in an era of

1284
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 14: voteful Paul to combat the great White snark?

1285
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 7: Well, they are kind of one and the same. Now,

1286
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 7: I'll never lose the snark, but I might be snarky

1287
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 7: on the side of hope. Now you know to the

1288
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 7: people that are going to you know, call in and

1289
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 7: just dump on every pick. Like I talked about that

1290
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 7: that mail bag question we got that that reads as follows,

1291
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 7: like it appears the Patriots watch the parago by a

1292
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 7: wide receiver and tackle and then reached for leftovers at

1293
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 7: those positions instead of drafting better players. They took those

1294
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 7: two positions at the very next picks they had, like

1295
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 7: they went they took one it's in the second round

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Speaker 7: or one of the third were they supposed to do? YEA,

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Speaker 7: And I just say to you, so that's my.

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Speaker 14: Snark, But what I'm hearing is snark is the medium.

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Speaker 7: Yes, No, I just I do feel and I'm not

1300
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Speaker 7: trying to just put on an act. I do feel

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Speaker 7: like there should be some hope on this weekend. This

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Speaker 7: is you have to hope more more so than anything

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Speaker 7: about Drake may but you you should have some hope.

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Speaker 6: I would just say to John's point, like I don't

1305
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 6: think you're wrong to be a little bit disappointed with

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00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 6: how free he went, like like we all were. We

1307
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 6: all were disappointed. But I think the lesson though, and

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00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 6: that you know what we were kind of trying to

1309
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 6: preach at the time is that this is how you

1310
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 6: get better. You hit on these draft picks, you retain

1311
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 6: these this is this is where the real stuff is.

1312
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 6: It's not you know, making the big free agency splashes. Yes,

1313
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 6: it would have been nice. It would have probably added

1314
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Speaker 6: something that all of us would have been excited about,

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00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 6: so that that's fair. But you know, this is where

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00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 6: the reality is.

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00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 7: This is you had gotten Calvin Ridley, maybe you wouldn't

1318
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 7: have had to use the second round pick on a

1319
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 7: wide receiver and you could have gotten a player that

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00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 7: could have you know what I mean, another player that

1321
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 7: could have played right away. That's how exactly exactly.

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Speaker 5: I mean, these these teams that are consistently in the

1323
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Speaker 5: mix every year they draft well.

1324
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 6: And then even every time Kansas City, tex.

1325
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 5: And Baltimore and then they bring in the pen again.

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00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 5: I mean, look at what the forty nine ers did,

1327
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 5: and then they bring in McCaffrey and they're right, that's it,

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00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 5: you know, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so this this Javon Baker or something. I guess,

1330
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 7: oh yeah, let's yeah. You know, the mentality after having

1331
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 7: to wait till day three, kill whoever's on the other

1332
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 7: side of the of me. That's really my mentality. That's it. Alex.

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00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 8: Alex barthways in NFL inside NFL Insider, and he just

1334
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 8: texted me Javon Baker is a legit psycho.

1335
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 7: I love it. I'm all in.

1336
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 8: That's what he said.

1337
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 7: Okay, those guys worry me, little flair. We'll gonna lie

1338
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 7: those guys.

1339
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 8: You gotta have a little dog in you. I think

1340
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 8: both these guys have a little dog in them both.

1341
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 6: And they might be making a commercial for the a

1342
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Speaker 6: DA sometime not too in the distant future.

1343
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: But he's all right, Uh, Melvin's in Tennessee. What's up, Melvin?

1344
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 7: Hey, Hey Melvin?

1345
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 10: Right?

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00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 16: Uh, I guess them. I'm just glad everything makes sense

1347
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 16: this time. You never know with receivers. Obviously, hopefully I'm

1348
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 16: praying that one of them works out, but you know,

1349
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 16: there's also the opportunity that neither one of them work out.

1350
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 16: Maybe both of them work out. But if we just

1351
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 16: were to get a ride receiver two right now, there's

1352
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 16: so many different ways you can get rid receiver one

1353
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 16: obso with drafting, but you know, ride receiver will cry

1354
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 16: every year on some money or whatever, just like that,

1355
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 16: so you can address that that waits. You know, you

1356
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 16: can do it different ways, but we can get something

1357
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 16: like that and everything like that works out. With the offense,

1358
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 16: I think the defense was okay last year. Is just

1359
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 16: so bad on offense. So I'm just glad to be

1360
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 16: that we at least have coaching staff and something like

1361
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 16: that that everything is at least making sense. We're not

1362
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 16: drafting of running back in the second round or something

1363
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 16: like that that we'll just throw you for a loop.

1364
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 16: So I'm happy with what they picked. So I'm just

1365
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 16: you know, it's exciting part of the year. So hopeful

1366
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 16: everything like that will work out and then we'll just

1367
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 16: see what happens from there.

1368
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 12: But so far, so good with me.

1369
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that thank you.

1370
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 8: Over the course even of Belichick's tenure, I feel like

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01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 8: the drafts where everything even if you don't agree with

1372
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 8: each individual player necessarily or maybe you liked one guy

1373
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 8: over another, when the positions and where they were picked

1374
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 8: made sense. It seemed like those drafts for the most part,

1375
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 8: were better than the ones where we get cold strange

1376
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 8: in the first round. You know, like when you have

1377
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 8: those drafts that are even twenty one even it didn't

1378
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 8: necessarily work out in the long run, but it was

1379
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 8: Mac Barmore Remandre like right where they were supposed to

1380
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 8: be drafted, and it was it looked at least for

1381
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 8: a couple of years like it was a pretty solid haul.

1382
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: It did.

1383
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 5: And other than Mac, I mean, Remandre was good and is.

1384
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 6: Hopefully going to get extended.

1385
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see, mel isn't Sacramento be blunt mel.

1386
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 12: By guys. I hey, thank you, thank you guys for

1387
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 12: the magnificent job you guys are doing in the draft.

1388
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 12: I just have a little sit of confusion in regards

1389
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 12: to why are we taking a Guard when we have

1390
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 12: a need for a tight end and there are other

1391
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 12: needs that haven't been filled yet. Totally, I was expecting

1392
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 12: more aggression in terms of moving up and driving Crafty

1393
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 12: more higher end talent. So I am somewhat optimistic, but

1394
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 12: I also feel like we have to compete with some

1395
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 12: really good teams, and I'm saying this is more of

1396
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 12: but a long term improvement as opposed to trying to

1397
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 12: win right away.

1398
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 8: I do know about that last part, but I totally

1399
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 8: understand where you're coming from with the Guard.

1400
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 7: When this one this one position.

1401
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 8: When Laden Robinson was taken, I have to admit I

1402
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 8: was like, oh God, here we go again. I mean,

1403
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 8: they saved me with Javon Baker a couple of picks later.

1404
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 8: But it has to be you know, we're talking I

1405
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 8: don't know if we were on here when we were

1406
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 8: talking about this, but the guards that they've taken over

1407
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 8: the last two years, they've taken four guards in the

1408
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 8: top one fifty now five with Robinson the four of

1409
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 8: the last two drafts Cold Strange City. So Jake andrews

1410
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 8: Antonio Maffi, this tells me that they don't love those guys.

1411
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 5: Or not all of them. Yeah.

1412
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, And because that's why he should be said depth

1413
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 8: wise at that position, and you're not apparent.

1414
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 7: It's the Fred and Paul Tenant of watching what this

1415
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 7: Patriots team does, watch what they do. And I think

1416
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 7: it's easy to sit there and say, and you know,

1417
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 7: Melon sack Town just said, you know, like like tight end.

1418
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 7: Well I look at you know, they they have tight

1419
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 7: ends on the roster, and they have guards on the roster,

1420
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 7: and they drafted a guard. What is that telling you

1421
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 7: than the guard?

1422
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: Right?

1423
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 7: And I also don't want to get too lost in

1424
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 7: what's happening in the fourth and fifth rounds of drafts.

1425
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 7: You're not addressing needs when you pick out like Javon Baker,

1426
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 7: God love them. Seems like a character, you know, you know,

1427
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 7: we have, you know, an infusion of you know, sort

1428
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 7: of swag in the locker room evidently. But I'm not

1429
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 7: gonna just sit there and say, well, you know, fourth

1430
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 7: round pick, he plug him in day one, he's gonna starting.

1431
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 7: Who's gonna catch ninety eight passes for us next year?

1432
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 7: Probably not gonna happen. They haven't necessarily addressed wide receiver.

1433
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 7: They've selected a couple of wide receivers. Hopefully they can

1434
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 7: play like tight end Hunter Henry Austin Hooper, h will Coxcox,

1435
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 7: Mitchell Wilcox. Yeah. I don't really think that's all that

1436
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 7: different than Cole Strange.

1437
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 8: Tonio Maffi, Yeah, I mean Hunter Henry is better than

1438
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 8: all of those guys at guard. But other than that,

1439
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 8: it's not different. But I do think in this draft

1440
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 8: the tight end class wasn't particularly strong. It was Bratt

1441
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 8: Bowers and then a big, big big get.

1442
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 7: But a lot of people and you guys included, and listen,

1443
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 7: I don't follow it as close asly as you guys do.

1444
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 7: Like I just didn't view tight end. Is this like,

1445
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 7: who they gonna get a tight end? Who they are?

1446
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 7: You know? Except for Claire t end They're not a

1447
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 7: huge not a huge thing for me.

1448
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1449
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 8: And if they want to throw like a later round

1450
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 8: dart at like Tanner mcclaran hand from Arizona or Jean

1451
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 8: Bell from Florida State, those guys are still ailable and

1452
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 8: I would think maybe in the sixth round they might

1453
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 8: still be there, both those guys. So you know, those

1454
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 8: are options of guys that I had decent you know, Okay,

1455
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 8: this guy could be a backup, you know, interesting kind

1456
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 8: of chess peace type player.

1457
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was for me, the tight ends I was

1458
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 6: always looking for, Just like I just wanted like a

1459
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 6: kind of a third y blocking guy that could just

1460
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 6: complement those two starters.

1461
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Speaker 8: But you see how high Tip Raymond went, Now, I

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Speaker 8: that was a wild one.

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Speaker 5: Uh So while we were at break, we had our

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Speaker 5: latest draft picks meet the media. So why don't we

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Speaker 5: go to Uh, let's go to Javonne Baker. Want to

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Speaker 5: do that. Let's go to him.

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Speaker 3: Just give it a couple of seconds, all right, Javon,

1613
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Speaker 3: I can see you now. Awesome? And can you hear him?

1614
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 3: Be I think we've got you on mute, so just

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Speaker 3: can you hear us?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: I can hear you now too. Awesome? So everyone welcome

1618
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 3: Javon Baker. We'll start off with first question here from

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: Doug Kide.

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Speaker 9: Javon, congratulations and welcome to New England. And I saw

1621
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 9: one of your initial reactions on Instagram was that it

1622
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 9: took too long for you to be picked. Yes, what's

1623
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 9: what's your mentality now? After rafting after having to wait

1624
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 9: two days to get drafted.

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01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 21: It's just it's just mentality is just kill whoever whoever

1626
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 21: on the side of me on on the other side

1627
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 21: of me.

1628
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: There's really the mom mentality.

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01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 9: Thanks, and uh one other one real quick? What can

1630
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 9: you tell us and Patriots fans about your game?

1631
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 5: Uh?

1632
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 21: Just come to the home stadium and bring out popcorn.

1633
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 21: That's all I can tell y'all. Bring you popcorn.

1634
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: I made. I made people in wheel chairs stand up,

1635
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: bring you popcorn.

1636
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: Question here, Chris Mason.

1637
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 22: Hey, Javon, congrats on getting drafted. What are your first

1638
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 22: impressions of Drake May and working with him moving forward?

1639
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 22: Stay again, please, what are your first impressions of Drake

1640
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 22: May as a quarterback and.

1641
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: Working with him? Yeah?

1642
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 21: Honestly, people don't notice, but when Drake May was committed

1643
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 21: to them at first, he was always used to practice

1644
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 21: and throw around.

1645
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: So me and Jake May gotta gotta like got a

1646
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: connection going on.

1647
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 21: So Drake May probably really, what I think, in my opinion,

1648
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 21: the best quarterback in this job. So and we connect again,

1649
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 21: it's gonna be it's gonna be a good connection.

1650
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 22: What do you remember about him from those throng sessions.

1651
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 21: Uh, competitive and trying to get the ball every like

1652
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 21: what the spots that I asked him to, he'll put

1653
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 21: it there, So he'll be just competitive, competitive quarterback and

1654
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 21: that's what I like in the quarterback and somebody that

1655
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 21: could push me and I push him.

1656
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Speaker 23: Thank you, Next question, Nick quite Thanks step Hey, congratulations.

1657
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 2: Javon.

1658
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 22: Just wanted to ask you your impressions of just joining

1659
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 22: the New England Patriots organization and when you think of

1660
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 22: the Patriots, what do.

1661
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 21: You think of honestly, like just just being a part

1662
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 21: of that organization. I know it's winning mentality organization, just

1663
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 21: like just like how it was at BEMA, just winning

1664
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 21: and like no but everybody liked winning and this it

1665
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 21: wouldn't be a better opportunity and a better place to

1666
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 21: go to than this place.

1667
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: So I just can't wait's.

1668
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 3: Questions, So if you will, Hi, Javon, congratulations. I was

1669
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 3: just curious.

1670
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 24: You know, you mentioned that you had throwing sessions with

1671
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 24: Drake may Uh did you reach out to him at

1672
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 24: all after he was drafted? And second, did have you

1673
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 24: heard anything from him or from you know, have you

1674
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 24: reached out to him since being drafted? Now that you

1675
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 24: guys are on the same team.

1676
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1677
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 21: I didn't reach out to him when he got drafted,

1678
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 21: But as soon as I got drafted, he reached out

1679
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 21: to me and.

1680
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: Were just telling the congression, let's get this get to work.

1681
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 21: And JP, who's working out this whole this whole off season,

1682
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 21: this whole little process. So we got to connec going

1683
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 21: on to so just them, us three alone and just

1684
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 21: gonna just bring back through, bring.

1685
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 2: Back and winning mentality that everybody like.

1686
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: Boston you talk about that connection.

1687
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 24: Do you feel like this was like a very good

1688
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 24: place for you to land with the two players that

1689
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 24: you literally saying that about.

1690
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 21: Yeah, like I said earlier, it's a perfect person. Yeah,

1691
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 21: Like I said earlier, it's the perfect opportunity. Yeah, I

1692
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 21: just I just can't wait to put on their uniform.

1693
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 3: Question mark Daniel and.

1694
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 25: Run not congratulations. Based off your background and you know,

1695
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 25: transferring UCF, how much would you say there's a chip

1696
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 25: on your shoulder and how much does this stuff that

1697
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 25: happened to you in the past, how much does that

1698
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 25: drive you?

1699
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 26: Uh?

1700
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 21: Honestly, like it's gonna always be a toop on my

1701
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 21: shoulder no matter what. I'm self driven. So I know,

1702
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 21: I know how it feel to be behind somebody. I

1703
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 21: know how to feel to be bottom of the death try.

1704
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 21: So I'm always have a chip on my shoulder with artists.

1705
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: And what are you hoping to prove with the Patriots?

1706
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 7: Prove them?

1707
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: Prove them everything, Like prove them what I can do.

1708
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: Prove them I could. I could do everything as a receiver.

1709
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 21: I could do anything to win, like just pull them

1710
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 21: that I'm a team player and I want to prove

1711
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 21: to the team that I'm one of them guys.

1712
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: So that's what i want to do. Thank you, Congruts.

1713
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 3: Question Kegan Steve who.

1714
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: Congratulations. I was just wondering.

1715
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 22: You talked to Steve Smith before the draft a little

1716
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 22: bit about your game, and you said, once the ball's

1717
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 22: in your hand, you can change the game.

1718
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 21: What is it about what you do that can change

1719
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 21: my mentality? I'm a I'm a I'm a receiver. I

1720
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 21: don't I don't know nothing but receiving the ball. You

1721
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 21: don't care if the ball throwing out of bounds in

1722
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 21: the sideline. I'm going to receive the ball. So at

1723
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 21: the end of the day, that right there, my mentality

1724
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 21: is just just different from any any other receiver.

1725
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: I can get down and dirty. I can do anything.

1726
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 21: So that right there, my mentality alone, can can just

1727
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 21: do it everything like as a receiver, just just my

1728
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 21: mentality and honestly, next question.

1729
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,440
Speaker 3: We'll do two more questions here. First one starting from Taylor.

1730
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 23: Kyles iveon congratulations man, welcome to New England. Before the draft,

1731
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 23: Elliot Wolf mentioned the team didn't really have a true

1732
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 23: ex that guy could line up on the back side

1733
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 23: and winning one on one coverage. Seemed like that was

1734
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 23: a place you had a lot of success in college.

1735
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 23: So do you feel like you can be that guy.

1736
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 2: For this offense?

1737
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 21: Yes, sir, I could be anything, honestly, whatever coach Mayo

1738
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 21: want me to be, I could be just that right there.

1739
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 21: I could be ex Wow, your h you no matter

1740
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 21: to me? And what allowed you to thrive in those

1741
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 21: one on one matchups? Would you say, uh, honestly, my mentality,

1742
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 21: Mama and Taldy went. I line up against that corner

1743
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 21: and I know it's game over.

1744
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: So welcome to New England for sure.

1745
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,560
Speaker 3: Question from Doug Kyde.

1746
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 9: On I saw that you were on Cam Newton seven

1747
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 9: on seven team. What was your relationship like with Cam

1748
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 9: Newton and has ever spoken to you about his time

1749
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 9: in New England.

1750
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, Mama.

1751
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 21: Actually, Cam Newton is like a big brother relationship. Before

1752
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 21: the draft, we were just talking and telling me. He

1753
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 21: was just telling me just just to keep my head

1754
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 21: down and keep working, you know. And I talked to

1755
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 21: him about Boston. I was just telling him because when

1756
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 21: I was when I was there on a visit, I

1757
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 21: was talking to a lot of people about Cam and

1758
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 21: it was just a lot of good things saying about him,

1759
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 21: and I was just telling him, laying the message and

1760
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 21: stuff like that.

1761
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: We were just laughing about it. But that's really it awesome.

1762
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 9: Thank you and congrats again.

1763
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 5: All right, that's the initial Baker interesting experience. Yeah, that's

1764
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 5: exactly the.

1765
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 7: Experience.

1766
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 5: A lot of confidence, a lot of confidence. If you

1767
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 5: want a confident guy, I think you just got him.

1768
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I do like the confidence. I think there's

1769
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 7: a swag that goes with that position in cornerback. You know,

1770
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 7: receivers corners, they go one on one a lot. But yeah,

1771
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 7: he's he'll get humbled a little bit. That's an experience

1772
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 7: right there. That guy was He was a lot. Yeah,

1773
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 7: that was a lot.

1774
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 5: I mean I can see a guy like that being

1775
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 5: at Alabama and like this isn't I want to play

1776
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 5: and getting out of there and going to a place

1777
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 5: where you know he can get on the field all

1778
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 5: the time. And you know the numbers show that once

1779
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 5: he did. Ah, you know, he produced. But yeah, I

1780
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 5: mean I think to be a wide receiver or a

1781
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 5: cornerback in this league, you have to have that type

1782
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 5: of confidence.

1783
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, Fred quote here just reading through from the beast.

1784
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 6: You know, he struggled to see meaningful snaps in Alabama's

1785
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 6: offense and he said, I just needed to touch the ball.

1786
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 6: So that's about right now.

1787
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 8: It's one of those schools that is a feeder of

1788
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 8: wide receivers. So there's a lot of guys you know

1789
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 8: that are are transfer in transfer out of these big schools.

1790
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 8: And you know, a guy like Jamison Williams transferred into

1791
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 8: Alabama and from our house date, it was a star

1792
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 8: at Alabama, you know, So it goes both ways that

1793
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 8: these guys just sometimes coaching staffs have favorites and it's

1794
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 8: not you and you have to move on.

1795
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1796
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he you know, he definitely believes in himself.

1797
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,520
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. So that was that was interesting,

1798
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 5: apparently doing it from his car. Yeah, probably the quietest

1799
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 5: place right now he could find to do it.

1800
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 6: So many podcasts are recorded these days, it's nice and

1801
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 6: contained space with the sound.

1802
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was interesting. And then we had also

1803
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 5: the guard Yeah, Leaden Robinsonadon Robinson. We have that queued up.

1804
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 5: Matt Morrell. Yeah, let's let's might as well knock these off.

1805
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 3: The first question from Mike Grease, Hi, Laiden, how you

1806
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 3: doing doing?

1807
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 2: Doing great?

1808
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 5: Well?

1809
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: Start us out laden with just what is what has

1810
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: this day been like for you? What is it like

1811
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: when you hear your name called? You know, when they

1812
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: call you.

1813
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 26: I mean, it's been great just having a blessing with

1814
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 26: just being here with me and my family and everybody

1815
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 26: that's been close to me my whole life, and just

1816
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 26: having that feeling of the call. It was great and

1817
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 26: it was a blessing in disguise, and it could have

1818
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 26: been from a better place leading them.

1819
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Can you tell us where you are and who's with

1820
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: you today?

1821
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 26: So I'm in Galveston, Texas at this beach house out here,

1822
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 26: and it's pretty nice. It's amazing, you know, Wendy, and

1823
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 26: it's fishing sometimes it's really good. Just ring with my grandfather,

1824
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 26: my uncles, my mom, my cousins, and my godmother.

1825
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: It's just a great surrounding of love.

1826
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,520
Speaker 3: Next question, Doug kaide.

1827
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 9: Laden, congratulations. Can you just tell, you know, awesome Patrick's

1828
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 9: fans a little bit about your game?

1829
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

1830
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 26: Just about my game is you know, I'm a grinder

1831
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 26: and instilled in me for years for a long time,

1832
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 26: especially with my coaching staff particising them. You know, just

1833
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 26: bring to just be a grinder, just going there and

1834
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 26: be tough, be gritty and go after people over and

1835
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 26: over and over and over again.

1836
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: Uh, that's how I do my play style.

1837
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 26: You know, growing up I always looked up to Larry

1838
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 26: Allen So and then I love the way that he

1839
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 26: played the game and great some bread off Salon and

1840
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 26: like Quinin Nelton, Chrystal Instroom and the guys like that.

1841
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 26: You know, you see their film and they're popping off

1842
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 26: a tape with their effort and strain and finishes.

1843
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: And that's how I kind of modeled my game.

1844
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 9: And one other quick question, what kind of contact did

1845
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 9: you have with the Patriots before the draft and what

1846
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 9: was that contact like?

1847
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 26: Uh, the contact was, Uh was great. I mean I

1848
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 26: talked to everybody a lot at the Senior Bowl. Then

1849
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 26: we talked at the we kind of visit at the

1850
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 26: Combine a little bit, and then they did interview me

1851
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 26: at A and M before the Pro day, So it

1852
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 26: was kind of like we met a lot and you know,

1853
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 26: got to know me a lot and know where my

1854
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 26: football mom was at too.

1855
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 2: As well, and then it was just great communication of everything.

1856
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1857
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: Next question, so if you will Kel, congratulations again.

1858
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 24: I was just curious, Uh, what is what has kind

1859
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 24: of been your impression of the Patriots before this moment

1860
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 24: and what is it like to kind of hear your

1861
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 24: name called within that organization?

1862
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 26: Well, you know, the impression of the Patriots, you know,

1863
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 26: just a championship chairmpmpionship program. You know, just going there

1864
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 26: and when I visited, because it was one of my

1865
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 26: thirty visits, I mean, it was a great feeling and

1866
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 26: loved the coaches just going around the facility and you

1867
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 26: see all the previous players and all the accolades and

1868
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 26: just tradition of the Super Bowl championships that they had

1869
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 26: in there. You know, that's a winning program and they

1870
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 26: you know, we're doing everything that we can to try

1871
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 26: to get this back on the road to becoming a

1872
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 26: winning to becoming the Super Bowl contending team.

1873
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 24: Again, and then sorry, just one more. Obviously, Drake may

1874
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 24: was the first overall pick for the Pick Pass this year.

1875
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 24: What do you know about him and what's kind of

1876
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 24: your impression of now getting to play with someone like him.

1877
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 26: Oh, you know, Drake Mazy got picked in the top

1878
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 26: in the top ten of the quarterbacks, so it was

1879
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 26: really good just seeing him get drafted there. I don't

1880
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 26: know much about him because you know, in the SEC,

1881
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 26: we didn't really play North Carolina. The only time we

1882
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 26: played North Carolina I believe was in the in the

1883
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 26: Orange Bowl a couple of seasons ago. So you know,

1884
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 26: I really don't know much about him, but I can't

1885
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 26: wait to get to know much about him and just

1886
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 26: get to know him as a person, get to know

1887
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 26: him as a player, and see his mindset, because you know,

1888
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 26: I played with a lot of different quarterbacks and you

1889
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 26: get a feel for different guys, and I just can't

1890
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 26: wait to get to know him and and just see

1891
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 26: him on the field.

1892
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 3: Thank you, and welcome to New England.

1893
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1894
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 25: Next question, Mark Daniels Heyl, Congratulations, I see that you

1895
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 25: started at right guard at Texas A and M.

1896
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 18: Are you coming to the NFL as a right guard.

1897
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 25: What type of versatility do you have and are you

1898
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 25: comfortable playing any other positions on the line.

1899
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, sir, I'm very comfortable playing in positions.

1900
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 26: Whatever the team needs to me's that's what I'm gonna do,

1901
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 26: because you know, you always learning anything, you know, I've

1902
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 26: been I played a couple of snaps at left in

1903
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 26: camp sometimes and I play and also I will snap

1904
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 26: the ball after practice every day just in case, just

1905
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 26: to get those rips. So you know, I'm always open

1906
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 26: to anything to help the team out. I'm a versatile

1907
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 26: guy and just anything they needed me, I'm gonna do.

1908
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, Congruts, thank you so much.

1909
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 3: And next question Taylor Kyles.

1910
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 23: Laden Congratulations, welcome to New England. Manius. Of course, I

1911
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 23: was curious about your interactions with Alex van Pelt, if

1912
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 23: you had any, and what he kind of told you

1913
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 23: about your potential fitting this offense. You know a lot

1914
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 23: of wide zone play action kind of stuff from what

1915
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 23: we do on the outside.

1916
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 26: Just you know, just coming in and just you know,

1917
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 26: understanding everything and basically just getting after it, you know,

1918
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 26: just like running off the ball and getting after everything.

1919
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 26: You know, That's the main thing with they talked to

1920
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 26: me about out there, you know, because you know a

1921
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 26: lot of people talked about my play style and how

1922
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 26: like coming off the ball and how is you know,

1923
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 26: just my greatest attribute, And they're right, that is my

1924
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 26: greatest attribute. I got things I need to work on,

1925
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 26: and I'm gonna get them done, and I'm gonna work

1926
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 26: on because I know what I have to work on.

1927
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 26: But you know, just just society to be there, that's

1928
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 26: just everything. You know, I'm just decided I have to

1929
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 26: be there and get to work and just go crazy.

1930
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 26: And speaking of which, what are some of those improvements

1931
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 26: for your game? If you don't mind me asking, just

1932
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 26: the improvements of my game, you know, just basically the

1933
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 26: technical side of the pass protection because you know, you know,

1934
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 26: I got some good reps in but you know, there's

1935
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 26: a lot of reps that I could have improved on better.

1936
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: And I've seen that and I broke down that film

1937
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: and I know what I need to get better at.

1938
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 26: And so now you know, I just got to get

1939
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 26: in there and then attack all my weaknesses and then

1940
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 26: make them my strengths.

1941
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: All congratulations, Yeah, man, thank you, thank you.

1942
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 3: It's like that's all the questions for today, so thank

1943
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us.

1944
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 5: All right, so that's Laden Robinson and his first encounter

1945
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 5: with the New England media is welcome to New England. Yeah,

1946
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 5: welcome to New England.

1947
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 7: You know, because congratulations, man, I wasn't supposed to say

1948
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 7: that was just a question to say anything. It's a

1949
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 7: press conference, ask a question, right, I've done those for

1950
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 7: twenty five years. I've never once done that once and

1951
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 7: I can honestly tell you that I am.

1952
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 8: Also curiously, I'm just trying to play the other side

1953
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 8: a little bit. These are people that once next season

1954
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 8: comes around, we try to establish a poor wist, so

1955
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,440
Speaker 8: God forbid we be human beings and say some pleasantries

1956
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 8: before we get into the question.

1957
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 7: And that's all you're trying to do. What like that,

1958
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 7: trying to suck up. Just ask your question. It's not

1959
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 7: your job, they're not your friends. There are people you're covering.

1960
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 7: Ask your question and move on for the next person

1961
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 7: so they can ask their question.

1962
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 5: You'll see him in the locker room and you'll say

1963
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 5: it and you can say hello and introduce yourself.

1964
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 7: And that's a congratulations time. Did you welcome into New England.

1965
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 6: No, you didn't get the hell out.

1966
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 7: I remember then.

1967
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 5: I remember when we had that web you said, congratulate,

1968
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 5: thank you. Now you're my favorite media member.

1969
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 6: It is a welcome to New England. Is the new

1970
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 6: I'm just curious that was our initial like press conference, bugaboo,

1971
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 6: just curious.

1972
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 8: I mean when I was in journalism school, one of

1973
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 8: my professors said that if he ever heard me say,

1974
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 8: talk about talk about your feelings on this, asked a question, yeah,

1975
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 8: that he will personally call me himself and yell at

1976
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 8: me talk about you on lawn order.

1977
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 5: That would be an objection because no question was asked.

1978
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, oh there you go, Yeah sustained.

1979
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, is there a question?

1980
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 6: Is there a question which tomorrow you need a law order?

1981
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeap?

1982
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 5: All right, So that's that's great. We're waiting for the

1983
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 5: Patriots next pick, but it won't be during this show

1984
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 5: as of now, because they don't have a pick until

1985
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 5: the sixth round and we're still in the fifth round.

1986
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, not even on the ticker all the way one

1987
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 8: eighty yeah, but they do.

1988
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 5: They do have two picks in the sixth round, so

1989
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 5: you never know. They can move into the bottom of

1990
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 5: the fifth some body that they're intrigued with down there.

1991
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 5: I don't see. I don't think it's likely, but we'll see.

1992
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 6: No, like I said, last year was nuts, like day three,

1993
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 6: Well they have nine guys, I mean, especially when you

1994
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 6: get to this point, you're kind of out of steam.

1995
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 6: And then they just were like rattling off pick after pick.

1996
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 6: I know, Pop Douglas gave us a little all right,

1997
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 6: that's exciting, you know.

1998
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,799
Speaker 8: I mean last year was that draft was after Gonzo,

1999
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 8: between Gonzo and Pop Douglas. That was a rough run

2000
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 8: for me. I was, I was pretty disappointed. And then

2001
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 8: they saved the draft with with Pop.

2002
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2003
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 6: I mean that, you know that the new guard there,

2004
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 6: he seems you know, he seems like a good dude.

2005
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 6: I just that that is the one pick I think

2006
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 6: you could probably question about.

2007
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 7: That was like the polar opposite though in terms of

2008
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 7: the press free, like very.

2009
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,959
Speaker 6: I'm with my whole family here in a beautiful place.

2010
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 7: Very you know, just very straightforward, very focused, you know,

2011
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,799
Speaker 7: Whereas Baker was like in his car kind of looking around,

2012
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 7: you know, obviously had a lot of colorful things to say,

2013
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,919
Speaker 7: this guy was a little bit more conservative. Yah Robinson.

2014
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 7: So yeah, two different personalities, but offensive.

2015
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 6: Lineman and a wide receiver kind of embodies those personalities, right, absolutely.

2016
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2017
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 8: I thought that he described his own playing style very accurately,

2018
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 8: which is not have.

2019
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 6: You ever disagreed with someone with their own playing style

2020
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 6: and like that's not you?

2021
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 8: Uh No, I mean sometimes like some guy you know,

2022
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 8: always get to oh, who did you model your game after?

2023
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 8: And I always feel like that sets up unfair expectations

2024
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 8: because they always say it's always going to be a

2025
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 8: good player, Like, it's not, Oh, I modeled my game

2026
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 8: after Kishon Booty, It's going to be I modeled my

2027
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 8: game after Keenan Allen.

2028
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 5: You know, tell me about your self awareness, you, sir,

2029
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 5: are no Keenan Allen.

2030
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2031
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the Ace ticket hutline Web Brady,

2032
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 5: I'm eight five five pats five hundred and of course

2033
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 5: web radio at pitches dot com is the email address

2034
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 5: Jason's been holding on from Florida. What's up, Jason? Hey?

2035
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 26: How you doing?

2036
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 14: Can you hear me?

2037
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: We can?

2038
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 2: Yep?

2039
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 10: Awesome, Hey, great coverage.

2040
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 27: I love the draft now and I would say past nations.

2041
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 10: One question for you, how.

2042
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 27: Do you think may how are they going to handle

2043
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 27: Drake may bring training camp.

2044
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 16: If he appears to.

2045
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 27: Be the clear cut best quarterback.

2046
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 14: Are they gonna start him week one?

2047
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 27: It's obviously going to be a difficult decision, probably a

2048
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 27: lot of pressure on Mail, but like here, yeah, it's it's.

2049
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 5: A good question to handle that. Yeah, well I'll let

2050
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 5: you hang up because your phone stinks. But anyway, no

2051
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 5: good question if he if he's if he is the

2052
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 5: clear cut, do you start him? And I think, first

2053
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 5: of all, I think would everyone agreed probably the reps

2054
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 5: will be split pretty much between him and per set

2055
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 5: ZAPPI getting.

2056
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 8: Some I wonder if he's clear second team for a

2057
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 8: little bit, just to not as any sort of mischief,

2058
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 8: like I remember Max tricky year. Cam was always first,

2059
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 8: but Mac would then go on like a twenty reperunt, right,

2060
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 8: And so obviously they were giving all the developmental opportunities

2061
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 8: to Mac. But when it looked like, you know, looked

2062
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 8: like Cam was the starter in air quotes, and I

2063
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 8: think Cam himself said it after he got cut. He

2064
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 8: was like, I probably should have realized this guy's I'm

2065
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 8: getting five reps and then this guy's getting twenty five reps.

2066
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 8: The order didn't really necessarily matter in that guy.

2067
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 6: My thing is I think follow Jacoby Brissett around, like

2068
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 6: attach yourself at the hip to Jacoby Brissett. But I

2069
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 6: think that there'll be some inconsistencies from Drake main practice,

2070
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 6: but they'll probably be some wow moments too where he

2071
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 6: just like in corks a couple of balls and you see.

2072
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 6: But I'd be really surprised to see him make that

2073
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 6: push that Matt Mac just look kind of comfortable right

2074
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 6: from the get go, especially in the pocket. I mean,

2075
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 6: it sounds weird to say now I think Drake May's

2076
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 6: gonna have those things like the simple.

2077
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 5: Well, what would you have to see to say we

2078
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 5: got to start this guy right away?

2079
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 6: I need to see him in the pocket, comfortable, getting

2080
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 6: the ball out, quick, hitting guys in stride right away,

2081
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 6: you know, which is kind of what Mac what I thought,

2082
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 6: Mac did?

2083
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 8: I think that's really it is the timing, you know,

2084
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 8: is he because it's I don't think it's gonna be

2085
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 8: a talent thing. It's gonna be between the ears of

2086
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:58,480
Speaker 8: is he understanding the play the play calls, understanding the playbook,

2087
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 8: understanding the checks, things he has to do with the

2088
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage, throwing on time, throwing with anticipation, you know,

2089
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 8: those types of things. I I it's not gonna be Oh,

2090
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 8: this guy doesn't have a good enough arm.

2091
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 7: Comes out on time consistently, And I don't I mean,

2092
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 7: it's a great question that the caller asked. I. I

2093
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 7: don't know if he's head and shoulders the best. I

2094
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 7: don't know if he'll start week one. You know, they

2095
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 7: might just not want to start him right away, Yeah,

2096
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 7: which I would be disappointed.

2097
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 6: And if he's if you know, you want to see

2098
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 6: him a least get a chance.

2099
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 7: No, what I'm saying is if he is clearly the

2100
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 7: best quarterback, then he should play. But I don't, you know,

2101
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that that will be the case.

2102
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Now.

2103
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing. And I was gonna mention it

2104
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 5: yesterday and we ran out of time. But if he does,

2105
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 5: if and when he does play and say, okay, you're

2106
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 5: gonna you're gonna start from this point on, I hope

2107
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 5: they don't make the same mistake they.

2108
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: Made with Mac.

2109
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 5: And that mistake is that leash that they had on

2110
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 5: him and not you know, being afraid to allow to

2111
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 5: make him make mistakes. You have to do that. You

2112
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 5: have to understand your limitations and make those mistakes so

2113
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 5: you learn, and I think I.

2114
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 7: Think they will. I think they I think it's different.

2115
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 5: Careful.

2116
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

2117
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 7: I know exactly what your point is. And you're thinking

2118
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 7: back to like the first you know, six or eight weeks,

2119
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 7: where it was they threw the ball all over the place,

2120
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 7: but you know, in a very controlled way. I just

2121
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 7: think that that was best for Mac. Yeah, and I

2122
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 7: think this that wouldn't necessarily be best for Drake May.

2123
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 7: In my opinion, I think it's the opposite.

2124
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 8: I'm actually a little bit concerned that they're going to

2125
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 8: try to take away the gunslinger in Drake May, and

2126
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 8: even as he matures it throughout the rest of his career,

2127
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 8: he's gonna have a little bit of Josh Allen in

2128
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 8: him where he's gonna make some mistakes and turn the

2129
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 8: ball over a little bit. But if you if you

2130
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 8: harness that and you pull them in, then that's taking

2131
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 8: away his superpower you got. He's gonna be one of

2132
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 8: those guys that's gonna be volatile at times and you

2133
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 8: have to just ride the wave and know that at

2134
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 8: the end you're gonna put up thirty five. You know,

2135
01:35:58,439 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 8: hopefully obviously, so.

2136
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 7: You got you might be right. I think that they'll

2137
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 7: look at it different like Mac. I think if you

2138
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 7: would let him, if he had taken the leash off,

2139
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 7: then it would have unraveled a lot before, would have

2140
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 7: looked like it did well.

2141
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 5: And then maybe we'd know a little bit sooner too.

2142
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe.

2143
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 7: So I think they handled Mac right because I think

2144
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,640
Speaker 7: they played to his limitations. Now what they did in

2145
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 7: year two and year three is a different story. I

2146
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 7: mean the rookie year. But if if Drake May is

2147
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 7: showing an understanding of the offense right away, I want

2148
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 7: him to play as a rookie. It doesn't have to

2149
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 7: be week one, but I want him to play meaningful games.

2150
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 10: You know.

2151
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 6: You know it's gonna be funny though, is that he'll

2152
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 6: have those reps where he doesn't quite know what he's

2153
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 6: doing or way to go to the ball, and he'll

2154
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 6: just tuck it and start running and it'll it'll look

2155
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 6: kind of impressive. Then you'll have half the media is

2156
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 6: going to say, well, he didn't know what he's doing

2157
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 6: all and the other house is going to say, man,

2158
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 6: he looks good on the hoof, you know that.

2159
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Speaker 7: I mean, he's that kind of player. Yeah, and that

2160
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 7: will happen in games, like he's an excellent runner, yeah, excellent.

2161
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 5: Driver, yeah, but in practice they're going to have to

2162
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 5: tell him you can't run, you know, You've got to

2163
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 5: have complete the play.

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01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, but he is a really good runner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: That's something that I haven't talked a ton about with

2167
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 8: him because I think that there's so much to talk

2168
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 8: about with the passing, both on the good and the

2169
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 8: bad end with him, that we've take up most of

2170
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 8: our time doing that. But over the last two years,

2171
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 8: I think in twenty twenty two, he might have like

2172
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 8: sixteen rushing touchdowns over the last two years or something

2173
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 8: like that. You know, not only is he a good

2174
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 8: runner that he can pick up first downs on third

2175
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 8: and five, but he's also a good goal line runner.

2176
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Speaker 8: If you want to use him like that, that you

2177
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 8: can have him be you know what Cam Newton was

2178
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty where he's punching it in for you

2179
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 8: as well.

2180
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Speaker 5: Let's go to Joe in Texas. Hey, Joseph, Hey, how

2181
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 5: y'all doing you know? Yep?

2182
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 28: Hey, Joe, all right, I got a couple of questions

2183
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 28: about time into each other. How confident are y'all that

2184
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 28: will be a winning team this season on a scale

2185
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 28: from one to ten with the way the offseason is

2186
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 28: going so far. Also, we had a sliver of hope

2187
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 28: with the seven win streak with Mac a couple of

2188
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 28: years ago before things went tower the season after. How

2189
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 28: much are y'all gonna have to see now that we've

2190
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 28: had that experience getting let down to actually have confidence

2191
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 28: in us being a legitimate playoff contender again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have a lot of confidence that will

2193
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 5: be a winning team this year, but I do have

2194
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 5: I'm very, very hopeful that we'll have the indications that

2195
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 5: the team's on the on the rise, that there's hope

2196
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 5: for the future. But I don't think it's going to

2197
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 5: translate to you know, above five hundred or you know,

2198
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 5: getting close to the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 6: I hope I'm wrong, right, But well, you want to

2200
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 6: see you want to see these offensive line pieces come together,

2201
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 6: and to say, out of all these draft picks and

2202
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 6: free agents that we've signed over the last couple years

2203
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 6: on the offensive line, if we can get through this

2204
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 6: year and into this year, and hopefully these guys are

2205
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 6: the ones that are under contract, Like, hey, we feel

2206
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 6: like we've got an offensive line.

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01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 10: Now.

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01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 6: If these rookie wide receivers step in and bump some

2209
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Speaker 6: of the guys that we've been disappointed in off the roster,

2210
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 6: and those guys are contributing, and it seems like, you know,

2211
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, you get the thing

2212
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 6: that everybody wanted, which is that the offensive line is

2213
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 6: in place. We've got some weapons, we're ready for Drake

2214
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 6: may now to take the keys, and he has stuff

2215
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 6: to work with and the protection.

2216
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 7: Those are all the examples of the things that we

2217
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 7: always say, well know when we see it. I don't

2218
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 7: have a number to quantify it. I don't I can't

2219
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 7: put a finger on what I would say is progress.

2220
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 7: But all those things that you just said. If Baker

2221
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 7: and Polk are there instead of Jalen Raeger and Juju

2222
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,600
Speaker 7: Smith Schuster, that's a sign of development. If you have

2223
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 7: maybe seven guys who start on the offensive line instead

2224
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 7: of you know, the twenty eight that did last year

2225
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 7: or whatever it was, that's a sign of development. I

2226
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 7: don't know what the record will be at the end

2227
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 7: of the year. It probably won't be all that much different,

2228
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 7: but that will be a lot more encouraging to me.

2229
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 7: I mean, this has taken obviously aside from the only

2230
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 7: thing that really matters and Drake May. You know, you

2231
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 7: can have some of those things happen or none of

2232
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 7: those things happen. If Drake May is c J. Stroud,

2233
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 7: you're going to be better both on the field, record

2234
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 7: wise and development wise. But I'm assuming that you're not

2235
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 7: going to get that meteoric. Yeah, you know, but rise

2236
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 7: into the league.

2237
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 5: Like Paul said, you're gonna have to see it. I mean,

2238
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 5: if you'll see it, you'll know if Bassett starts and

2239
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 5: the Patriots are two and six and then they put

2240
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Speaker 5: in Drake May, and Drake May wins four or five

2241
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 5: games down the stretch will be like sky high.

2242
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 7: Well I would be sky high. But even if Drake

2243
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 7: May goes in and goes two and six as well.

2244
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 7: But Javon Baker's catching a couple of passes here and there,

2245
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 7: and Jalen Polk is doing this over there, and you know,

2246
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 7: maybe Kaylen Wallace is playing some tackle. Maybe he's the

2247
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 7: swing tackle and he you know, when someone gets hurt

2248
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 7: and he has to play and it doesn't fall apart.

2249
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,839
Speaker 7: Those are things that I think would be really encouraging

2250
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 7: like again, you could have the same record, but you

2251
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 7: know it, you know, you kind of know when you

2252
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 7: see it, when when you're plugging in Verderian Lowe and

2253
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 7: you know he's not the answer, and Calvin Anderson and

2254
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 7: or whatever was going on with him last year with

2255
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 7: that mysterious illness, and it's just one different guy after another,

2256
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 7: Conor McDermott, and you know who knows who's playing guard.

2257
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 7: There's they're alternating series with guards. You remember that, Remember

2258
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 7: that period where Strange was playing one series and then

2259
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 7: Mafia would come in the net, Like that's not ideal.

2260
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Matt gro said, the worst thing is

2261
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,879
Speaker 8: to not have any tackles and and you're you're scrambling

2262
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 8: at tackle, and that's what that's what they were doing

2263
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 8: last year. I understand people calling in. Everybody thinks I

2264
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 8: pick on the callers. I'm not picking on the callers,

2265
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,560
Speaker 8: but I it's hard for us to sit here, I

2266
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 8: think and say that their four wins better, they're three

2267
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 8: wins better, they're five wins better. Even in I don't

2268
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 8: even know if I could say that at the end

2269
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 8: of training camp, like I don't know when we're gonna

2270
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 8: like I don't really do well with that. We so

2271
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 8: much of it is so random too, right, It's just

2272
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 8: to Paul's point, it's just all about how does it look?

2273
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 8: You know, who's playing, and is it developing? And does

2274
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 8: Jalen does it finally look like they hit on a

2275
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 8: receiver with Jalen Polk and Javon Baker, And you know,

2276
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 8: how about the offensive line? Is the defense you know,

2277
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 8: still a really good defense, and it's not necessarily gonna

2278
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 8: result in like they're gonna win ten games next year.

2279
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 7: If the same exact team played the same exact schedule

2280
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 7: last year, all the same personnel, everybody that got hurt

2281
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 7: got hurt. Yeah, every guy that was available for every game.

2282
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 7: I'm not telling you they would have gone four and thirteen.

2283
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 2: Again.

2284
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 7: They might only won two games, they might have won six.

2285
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 7: I'll like, there's such a randomness to it with so

2286
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 7: many of those games come down to the last. How

2287
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 7: many times does Bill tell you it came down to

2288
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 7: a couple of plays and unfortunately they made the plays. Yeah, Now,

2289
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 7: I'm not telling you they could have played the whole

2290
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 7: season over again and gone thirteen and four instead of

2291
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 7: four and thirteen. That wasn't possible, but it was possible

2292
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 7: that they could have won five to six seven games

2293
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 7: based on the way the game the game's unfolded, and

2294
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,759
Speaker 7: they might only won two if they unfolded differently.

2295
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 6: Sometimes they get shut out at least once.

2296
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 7: I remember the one here six nothing against the child?

2297
01:42:58,439 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 7: Is that the only one?

2298
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 5: Jay in Minnesota? What's up? Jay?

2299
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 29: Hello, guys, we'll be having a good Saturday. I called

2300
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 29: him yesterday to catch twenty two and I asked Evan

2301
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 29: and Alex about the prototype receiver that were best fit

2302
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 29: Drake May and I was kind of shocked that so

2303
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 29: many teams passed up on Ady Mitchell, and he felt

2304
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 29: so far, I'm not so with the whole pick really,

2305
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 29: but I'm kind of wondering why they would go with

2306
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 29: Baker over his teammates, says Walker.

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01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 16: Knowing that he went two picks later.

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Speaker 29: I think, I feel like that's a lot of development

2309
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 29: that they already have, and I'm kind of concerned why

2310
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 29: they didn't pick them. But I can also see why

2311
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 29: Paul is concerned with Baker because those outward receivers, you know,

2312
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 29: who are talking a lot. They can either go for

2313
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 29: a thousand yards d season or they could barely make

2314
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 29: it out of training account. So I kind of see

2315
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 29: the concern. But I'm wondering why they don't go with,

2316
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:52,839
Speaker 29: says Walker.

2317
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think they're going to hope that they

2318
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 6: developed chemistry. And it's just two years together. I mean,

2319
01:43:58,800 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 6: how much did they play together too?

2320
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 7: Years ago?

2321
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 8: Honestly, last year they didn't play a ton together because

2322
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 8: tes Walker, he was ineligible for a while because of

2323
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:06,919
Speaker 8: a transfer.

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01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 6: You make it up, you go with the better player.

2325
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 6: I mean, you know it'll be quick before he has

2326
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 6: as much experience playing, you know, with Drake as what

2327
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 6: test Ive.

2328
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 7: Been on records saying, I like Baker more than Walker anyway,

2329
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 7: but I am I'm not gonna lie that guy's name

2330
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 7: as much. He was a little bit much. Really interesting.

2331
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 7: Just back to the draft, Spencer Rattler just went to

2332
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:28,719
Speaker 7: the Saints.

2333
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 8: I think it's the first quarterback.

2334
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, a record since shows the record long streak of

2335
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 7: well Over. Get him quick, get one hundred and thirty

2336
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 7: picks or something.

2337
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 8: I just think that, you know, back to one hundred

2338
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 8: and forty picks. Walker and Baker quickly they clearly And

2339
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 8: when I asked grow about this, he taught he said

2340
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 8: that you know, that's the league, and tested catches and

2341
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 8: finishing in traffic and that type of stuff is the league.

2342
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 8: And the biggest knock on Tess Walker is his hands.

2343
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 8: Tons of drops on film and I really struggled to

2344
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 8: finish through contact at the Senior Bowl against you know,

2345
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 8: NFL caliber corners just not no. Like, they're very, very

2346
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 8: different types of players. Like Tess Walker is this developmental

2347
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 8: vertical threat. Javon Baker is a much more physical player.

2348
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 8: It's not that different than the conversations we were having

2349
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 8: about Jalen Polk and some of the other guys, you know,

2350
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 8: a Lad McConkey or a Troy Franklin or somebody like that.

2351
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 8: So they they're clearly going after a certain type of receiver,

2352
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 8: you know, physical, tough, good catch radius, good hands, you

2353
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 8: know that type of player versus you know, a guy

2354
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 8: like Ted Walker, who's really just a one trick pony.

2355
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 5: John's in LA. What's up, John?

2356
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 27: Hey, I just wanted to say to everybody, thank you

2357
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 27: so much for the draft coverage that like from them

2358
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 27: in the middle of last season through today. It's unbelievably great.

2359
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 27: Evans made a great difference eposed to Alex bart and

2360
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 27: and all of your guys work Mastis and Paul and

2361
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,440
Speaker 27: everybody curtain.

2362
01:45:59,160 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 5: Calls being great.

2363
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 8: We don't have to give Barth credit though he's a

2364
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 8: different stations.

2365
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 5: Well, he's an insider, so he's got a leg up

2366
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 5: on just kidding.

2367
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 27: Well, he's been like revolutionized, really good and appreciate it

2368
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 27: quick thing.

2369
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 14: Of course, of course, thank you. If each of you

2370
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 14: had one guy.

2371
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 29: One pick that you could just overrule and take somebody else.

2372
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 27: And I'll go for Fred Firstconi everybody else, well, no, you.

2373
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 5: Know what I would have I would have liked to

2374
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 5: have seen them take Christian Mahogany the BC guard instead

2375
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 5: of uh, yeah.

2376
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: There you go.

2377
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good one, I might say, Uh, probably

2378
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 6: the big TCU tight end over the over the guard.

2379
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the guard is probably the pick that

2380
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 8: bugs me the most just because of the position. Yeah,

2381
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 8: but I feel like they they kind of missed the

2382
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 8: run on the tackles on day two a little bit.

2383
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 8: And how much would it have cost them to move

2384
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 8: up ten picks to take Kingsley's to Matia from the Chiefs,

2385
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 8: you know, or you know one of those guys that

2386
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 8: was maybe a little bit earlier. I know that that's

2387
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 8: kind of overcomplicating it because now you're trading up and

2388
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 8: you're doing other things. But I don't hate Wallace. I

2389
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 8: just think that his ceiling is kind of like swing tackle,

2390
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 8: you know, OT three. I don't really see him as

2391
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 8: starting caliber on the at least on the outside. Maybe

2392
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 8: at guard he could be a starting guard, but at tackle,

2393
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 8: I think that that's pushing it a little bit. Where

2394
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 8: they had moved up like ten picks or so, they

2395
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 8: might have been able to grab one of those last

2396
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 8: starting caliber trade type of guards.

2397
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 7: I would answer just by saying, I really like, you

2398
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 7: know pretty much all the picks so far. I would

2399
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 7: maybe I just would say, just to give you one

2400
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 7: is is at Ni Mitchell instead of Jalen Polk. But

2401
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 7: I know what everybody's talking about with with Mitchell. There

2402
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 7: might be red flags all over the place for him,

2403
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 7: So I think he might have been off the board.

2404
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 5: Being Fresno writes in the Javon Baker quotes are a riot.

2405
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 5: The guy might the guy might be a total maniac.

2406
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 5: Wonder if Mayo's regime will be more permissive with this

2407
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 5: sort of stuff than Bill was.

2408
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 6: There's good and bad with that, Yeah, I mean that's

2409
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 6: he got to get him out there, see, I mean

2410
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 6: come out.

2411
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 5: He's got to get out there and show it. I

2412
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 5: mean it's all talk until you do it. And he's

2413
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 5: going to learn that real quick.

2414
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it's and he's stepping into a place

2415
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 6: where there's just a lot of competition. And I won't

2416
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 6: say there's you know, high level competition, but you know

2417
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 6: there's professional NFL receivers in this group that have had

2418
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 6: that have played in this at this level. So you know,

2419
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 6: it's it's it's no easy task to come in and

2420
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 6: take Juju smith Schuster's job, even though I think he

2421
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 6: probably should. And you know, same with Taekwon Thornton. I

2422
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 6: mean he's he's pouring everything he has into this season too,

2423
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 6: So I think it's it's gonna all cold. I say, Paul,

2424
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 6: iron sharpen, what iron sharpens, iron tires of iron itself.

2425
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 7: So there you correct. So here's a you know, I

2426
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 7: know we only have like ten or fifteen minutes here,

2427
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 7: but Juju, I wonder, you know, like they've made a

2428
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 7: lot of like the amount of app space that they've

2429
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 7: sort of maintained just eat it. I wonder if they're

2430
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:05,560
Speaker 7: playing it on you know, we got we got a

2431
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 7: couple of guys here. I wonder if they're just playing

2432
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 7: a bite in the bullet and eating that cap space,

2433
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 7: because he would be the one guy, like you said,

2434
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 7: like they have a lot of NFL receivers and there

2435
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,839
Speaker 7: that he would be the one I would say qualifies

2436
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 7: as that. Like I don't think Jalen Rager has ever

2437
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 7: been in an NFL caliber. He's a first round pick,

2438
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 7: had all kinds of pedigree, but he's never really done

2439
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,759
Speaker 7: it as a wid wide receiver. And this is multiple

2440
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 7: spots now, It's not like the Pageots drafted him and

2441
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 7: hasn't worked out. He's been in Philly, he's been in Minnesota,

2442
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 7: he's been here. Yeah, you know when aside from returning

2443
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 7: a kick for a touchdown, I don't really think he's

2444
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 7: done much as an NFL player. I would say the

2445
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 7: same with Taekwon Thowton, the second round pick, been here

2446
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 7: a couple of years, hasn't really created a niche for himself.

2447
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 6: But I'd say going deeper Osborne and Bourne and I'm

2448
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 6: trying to push those down question, trying to push down

2449
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 6: the depth chart, trying to get on the field, not

2450
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 6: just off the roster, but you know, trying to get

2451
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 6: get those reps so that we can get to that

2452
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 6: point like.

2453
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 7: We talked about.

2454
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 8: No, you're right, Osborne Douglas Bourne are on this team,

2455
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 8: and now the two rookies are going to be on

2456
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:02,600
Speaker 8: the team. I mean, you're not going to cut a

2457
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 8: fourth round pick unless he's an absolute disaster. So, uh,

2458
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 8: those five guys, and are you going to keep a

2459
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,759
Speaker 8: sixth receiver? Maybe that's where you have to keep Juju

2460
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 8: just because of the money situation, is the sixth receiver.

2461
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 8: But then you know that's it for Taekwon, which I'm

2462
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 8: not saying it.

2463
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 7: But did you just cut? Like that wasn't that hard?

2464
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2465
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 7: Like there's a lot of bodies, there's a lot of names,

2466
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 7: but no one. But it's kind of no one. I

2467
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 7: don't think that anybody. I don't be really disappointed. Now

2468
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 7: we'll get because we get you know, people that are

2469
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 7: going to question everything. You know, we'll get. You know,

2470
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 7: how could they let go of Booty? You know there too?

2471
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 7: You know what, people didn't get his foot down? What

2472
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 7: are you gonna do? People will be upset about fulger

2473
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:44,679
Speaker 7: mask claim it's because you didn't get his foot in bound.

2474
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 8: His whole career would have been different if he just

2475
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 8: got his foot in It's like Nikhil Harry on the

2476
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 8: fumbles against Kansas City.

2477
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 5: You know man or you know Polke will have a

2478
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 5: good dame. What about Pop?

2479
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: You know?

2480
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 7: Right?

2481
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 5: Chris writes in Why All the Haiti says, it's clear.

2482
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 5: I think that it's a aren't that they are drafting

2483
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 5: around their new quarterback. These two wide receivers have great hands,

2484
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,719
Speaker 5: they track the ball and are tough at the catch point.

2485
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 5: I think the Patriots are gonna get some of We

2486
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 5: got our guys. It also sends a message to the

2487
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 5: wide receiver and o line depth chart that you are

2488
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 5: all on notice and everyone's not going to be on

2489
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 5: the team next year. With that said, who do you

2490
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 5: think are some surprise or not so surprise cuts for

2491
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 5: those positions this year? But it's a little early for

2492
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 5: that question.

2493
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 7: I like it A wide receiver, yeah, I don't think

2494
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 7: you're gonna get a surprise cut, No surprise. I think

2495
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 7: Evan just gave you the depth chart, and I don't

2496
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 7: think there'll be any surprises.

2497
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 5: I mean, if Bourne got cut, I'd be surprised.

2498
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:38,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be a surprise.

2499
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 6: I don't think Osborne too.

2500
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 7: Osborne, the two rookies, and probably to Mario Douglas. I

2501
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 7: think those would be the only surprises.

2502
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 5: And I think right now they're lost.

2503
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 7: I think they're all going to be here.

2504
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it. This is a rebuild draft. Let's

2505
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 5: all wait and see them develop before we start criticizing

2506
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 5: the process. This seems different than other drafts for this,

2507
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 5: I'm excited it.

2508
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 2: There you go.

2509
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean i'd look. I mean, you can't really

2510
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 6: even look at the defense for surprise cuts at this point,

2511
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 6: but you know, you look into the the offensive line,

2512
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 6: you know, is Cold Strange and and Antonio Maffi.

2513
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 8: I really do wonder about so Cold Strange has the

2514
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 8: is coming off an injury also, and there's some reports

2515
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,560
Speaker 8: out there already that he might not be ready for

2516
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 8: training camp.

2517
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 7: Zoe said he was ahead of schedule the other day. Okay,

2518
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 7: what's like, what's what's the schedule?

2519
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe that made this report about him not necessarily

2520
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 8: being ready.

2521
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 7: I believe that more than what I heard.

2522
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 8: Well, that was that was from February at the Combine,

2523
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 8: and uh, you know, between that and the fact that

2524
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 8: he's just been injured, a lot, like he's that guy.

2525
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 8: He's had a durability and issue at this point, like.

2526
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 7: He's got like a kind of a size strength kind

2527
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 7: of yeah problem. Yeah.

2528
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 8: I do wonder if maybe they just cut their losses.

2529
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 8: They're like, well, that was a bad pick, and we're

2530
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 8: we're moving on.

2531
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 6: It's so disappointing how that all went down. Like I

2532
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 6: just in training camp, like the first day of pads.

2533
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 6: You're you're excited to see some contact, to see some

2534
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 6: real football quote unquote, and then just like that, he's

2535
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 6: over and Dante's inferno getting checked out and he's taking some.

2536
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 7: Steps and you're like, is he okays? You know, he's

2537
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 7: not getting carted off? And here we are.

2538
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 8: You know, Yeah, that's what that pick was.

2539
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 5: Chad's in Illinois. What's up, Chad? Chad?

2540
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 7: Chad?

2541
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 5: Okay, hold it on that one.

2542
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 6: I gotta tell Hardy my story about Zoe.

2543
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 7: He'd appreciate that. Yeah he does.

2544
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 5: Franklin writes in pretty sure, you guys already discussed this,

2545
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 5: but I strongly feel Thornton's time with the team is over.

2546
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 5: On the one hand, I feel bad for him because

2547
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 5: it's not his fault he got overdrafted, but On the

2548
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 5: other hand, I'm not exactly sad at saying Addio's to

2549
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 5: the last remnant of Bill's terrible wide receiver picks.

2550
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 7: Fair.

2551
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is doing a lot of bench pressing.

2552
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 7: Now, what I don't think is fair as what I'm

2553
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 7: starting to hear a little of, Like, you know, this

2554
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 7: draft was so refreshing, so different. Yeah, it's like, yeah,

2555
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 7: it's it's kind of amazing when you have the third

2556
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 7: pick in every rounds.

2557
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 5: But the needs were so obvious, and they got three

2558
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 5: guys at those.

2559
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 7: Bill Belichick, right, you know, mystery, couldn't do anything, couldn't

2560
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 7: tie your shoes. Evidently somehow stumbled into six titles. When

2561
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 7: he was on the he was on the McAfee thing.

2562
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 5: I agree, I agree.

2563
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 6: I love when Paul's on Bill side of the street.

2564
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 7: No, I agree, because I'm going to criticize Bill a

2565
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 7: little bit too here. But he was doing the McAfee

2566
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 7: thing the other night. He was kind of critical of

2567
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 7: Drake May. But wha did he have Drake May and

2568
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 7: his big board?

2569
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that was right up there.

2570
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 7: Five five overall, not fifth quarterback. Bill had a big

2571
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 7: boy five overall.

2572
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 6: Well, there was some speculation if it was like his.

2573
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, but that's what it was attached

2574
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 7: to his name.

2575
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 9: It was.

2576
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was some rumors or whatever you want to

2577
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 8: call it, that it was actually field the eights is board.

2578
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 8: That might be, but he he wasn't going to put

2579
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 8: himself in front of the board if he didn't feel

2580
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 8: like if he thought that Drake May was really like

2581
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 8: fifty eight, he wouldn't have allowed that to go out there. Yeah,

2582
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 8: and you know he talked to but he said good

2583
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 8: and bad about it a guy, and he did.

2584
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 7: He did good and bad. And I thought I thought

2585
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 7: he was pretty critical of Drake May. But he was

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01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 7: pretty critical I thought of all of the quarter I

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01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 7: agree with Frank thought he was pretty critical of all

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01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 7: of them.

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01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 5: I think I think the only thing he did different

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01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 5: maybe with May than he did with the others is

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01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 5: what you know, he compares himself to Josh Allen, which.

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01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 7: I don't really like. I'd like to see I'm not

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01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 7: telling you that that's not true. I'd like to see that.

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01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 5: Oh I saw it.

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01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 6: You saw Drake May say that.

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01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 7: I'm like, like, Josh saw Bill say Oh, No, I

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01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 7: saw Bill say it. I haven't. I haven't seen where

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01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 7: Drake May has said it.

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Speaker 5: I've seen other people, million people.

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01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he compares himself to that's what he said.

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01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 8: I don't know if he I think saying that he

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01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 8: compares himself to Josh Allen is strong. It's kind of

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01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 8: like how Jalen Polka said that his favorite player to

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01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 8: watches Keenan Allen. Like he's not saying that he's as

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01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 8: good as Keenan all and he's saying, like, that's the

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01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 8: guy I look up to that I hope to be someday.

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01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 8: I think Drake May might have said that he hopes

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01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 8: to even if Josh said that, then I would I

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01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 8: would give Bill some slack.

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Speaker 7: I haven't even heard.

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01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 6: I hadn't heard that either, but.

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01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 7: I mean that makes sense.

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01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 6: It's I mean, how many guys came out and I'd

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01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 6: like to, you know, be like Tom Brady, Like you know.

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01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 8: That if somebody asks you what quarterback do you emulate?

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01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 8: What quarterback do you watch that you like the most,

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01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 8: And he says Josh Allen, that doesn't mean that he's

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01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 8: comparing yourself to Josh.

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01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 5: But that's a little bit different. If somebody asks you

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01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 5: what quarterback do you fashion yourself you know.

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01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 8: Right right, you know, or yeah, no, this was I

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01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 8: think was more of like what Polk was asked about yesterday,

2624
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 8: like which receivers in the league do you watch that

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01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 8: you try to.

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01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 6: You know, emulate Eagles took Jeremiah Trotter junior. That's that's

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01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 6: that's nice.

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01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 18: That's nice.

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01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 7: Like Jet's just traded John Franklin Myers to Denver for

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01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 7: a sixth round pick.

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01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 8: What wow, salary dump.

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01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's pretty good player.

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01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 5: All right, Well, listen, that's gonna be it for our

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01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 5: draft coverage, at least on this show. But the draft

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01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 5: coverage on Patriots dot Com and all our social media

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01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 5: channels continues, you know, all today, and you know, throughout

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01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 5: next week we'll have all kinds of stuff about the

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01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 5: draft picks that the Patriots took, and then tomorrow too. Yeah,

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01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 5: so you'll be you know, signing the guys off the

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01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 5: street after this, the guys that didn't get drafted, and

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01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 5: who knows who you get there. So I appreciate everybody

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01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 5: watching and listening over the weekend. Matt Morrell, thank you

2643
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 5: for the help. Everybody else in the control room, thank you.

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01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 5: So we're gonna say goodbye, but stick to patriots dot

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01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 5: com and the Patriot's social accounts for the rest of

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01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 5: the day to see who else the Patriots choose. We

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01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 5: will talk to you on Tuesday.

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