1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz. We can review Ben 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Ferguson with you. And these are the big stories that 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: you might have missed that we talked about this week. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Number one, the corporate media covering and trying to tell 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: you because Michael Cohen lies so much, maybe that means 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: he's actually being honest during the Trump trial. So will 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: this Jedi mind trick work on the jurors? We're going 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: to talk about it. Also, can Democrats actually put politics 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: aside for a moment and get on board with protecting 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: IVF with a federal bill center Cruz talks about the 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: important legislation that he has proposed. And finally Anthony Blincoln 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: lying saying we have not withheld arms from Israel. Well, 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: guess who says he's lying? The White House saying yes, 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: we did pause the shipments. We'll have all of that. 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: It's the weekend review and it starts right now. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: The prosecution's argument is Michael Cohen is a liar, but 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: he's a thief too. Like that. That's kind of a problem. 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: But you know what, the corporate media is so corrupt 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: they're trying to defend him. Listen to Lawrence O'Donnell from 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: MSNBC trying to explain that the fact that that Cohen 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: was stealing from Trump, it's really not a problem. 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: It's okay. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: Inside the core room, even there, almost every day you 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: have the strength of. 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 5: Beyond mortal men. 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: What was worth it to you today? What did you see? 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: What did you hear? 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: Well, you know, the courtroom is where I began as 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 5: a writer and a reporter a long time ago. So 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 5: this is a homecoming for me in terms of a workplace. 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: The shocking thing at the end of that cross examination, 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: and I just can't tell you how just how stunning 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 5: it was, because it's the thing that I was waiting for. 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 5: I saw everything, Todd Blanche. I've seen every minute of 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 5: cross examination. I've seen every single question he's asked. And 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: he sat down and ended his cross examination without asking 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 5: a single question about the one hundred and thirty thousand 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 5: dollars that appears on the Alan Weiselberg notes about how 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 5: they were structuring the payment to Michael Cohen. He asked 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: about the fifty thousand dollars that's irrelevant to the one 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 5: hundred thirty thousand dollars, and that's where he very effectively 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 5: got Michael Cohen to say to agree that, yes, he 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: stole thirty thousand dollars. Later, when Cohen was asked about 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: that on redirect by the prosecution, it didn't really sound 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 5: like stealing thirty thousand dollars. It sounded a lot like 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: Michael Cohen doing the little that he could within that 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: calculation to rebalance the bonus he thought he deserves, and 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 5: it still came out as less than the bonus he 49 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 5: thought he deserved and the bonus you've gotten the year before. 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I love how he's like justifying the stealing 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: because he thought he. 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Was trying to rebalance the bonus. You know, if you 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: steal from your employer, you're just trying to rebalance what 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: they're paying you because you know you're worth more, so 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: steal away. That is MSNBC's defense. 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not a big deal to pay people 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: in brown paper bags for work, right. That's also very 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: normal apparently in the minds of MSNBC as well, So 59 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: we'll completely overlook that as well. Final question on this, 60 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, You're right not going to take the stand 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: that I think is obviously a smart decision as you 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: described it. I think it was in the last podcast 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the one before that he's not going. 64 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: To which is what we predicted on this podcast before 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: that decision was made. I said on this podcast the 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: chances that Donald Trump will go on the stand or 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: zero point zero zero percent. 68 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: Well that was proven right. 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: He's not going on the stand because his lawyers are 70 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: not incompetent in committing malpractice. 71 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: So when you're looking at this now, now, what do 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: you think is going to happen? What's your gut? 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: I remain worried. Listen on the merits. This case is frivolous, 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: and I will point out also that the judge one 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: of the things he did is he blocked the Trump 77 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: campaign from putting on the witness stand the former chairman 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: of the FEC Brat Smith. Bratt Smith is a law professor, 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: is one of the most well respected campaign finance experts 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: in the country. Campaign finance law is famously complicated, and 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Bratt Smith was prepared to testify that paying hush money 82 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: does not constitute a campaign expense. If that's correct, the 83 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: entire case goes out the window. And it's interesting. So 84 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: after the judge blocked him from testifying, Smith did an 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: interview did an interview with the Washington Examiner, where he 86 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: described what he would have testified to and Smith said, 87 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: here's what Smith said. Quote judges instruct the juries on 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: the law, and they don't want a battle of competing 89 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: experts saying here's what the law is. They feel it's 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: their province to make that determination. The problem, of course, 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: is that campaign finance law is extremely complex, and just 92 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: reading the statute to people isn't really going to help 93 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: them very much. The goal of his testimony, Smith said 94 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: was quote to lay out the ways the laws has 95 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: been interpreted in ways that might not be obvious. As 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: an example, Smith cited the phrase quote for the purpose 97 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: of influencing an election, which has been heard during much 98 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: analysis of the trial. Quote you read the law and 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: it says that anything intended for the purpose of influencing 100 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: an election is a contribution or an expenditure, Smith explained. 101 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: But that's not, in fact the entirety of the law. 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: There is the obscure and separate from the definitional part 103 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: idea personal use, which is a separate part of the 104 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: law that says you can't divert campaign funds to personally 105 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: unth use. That has a number of specific prohibitions like 106 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: you can't buy a country club membership, you can't normally 107 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: pay yourself a salary or living expenses, you can't go 108 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: on vacation, all those kinds of things. And then it 109 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: includes a broader general prohibition that says you can't divert 110 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: campaign funds to any obligation that would exist even if 111 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: you were not running for office. What's the point of 112 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: that quote? We would have liked to flag that exception 113 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: for the jury and to talk a little bit about 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: what it means. And also we would have talked about 115 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: quote for the purpose of influence in an election is 116 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: not a subjective test like what was my intention? It's 117 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: an objective test. So hiring campaign staff is for the 118 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: purpose of influencing an election, Renting space for your campaign office, 119 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: buying ads, maybe doing polling, printing up bumper stickers, travel 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: to campaign rallies, renting venues for campaign rallies. All those 121 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: things exist only because you're running for office. But under 122 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: the personal use rules, a lot of things candidates do 123 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: running for office are not considered campaign expenditures. Things like 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: paying for a weight loss program or a gym membership, 125 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: nicer clothes, teeth whitening, or all that sort of thing. 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: It may be true that you do those things in 127 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: part to help get yourself elected, and you might not 128 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: do them otherwise because but they are not obligations that 129 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: exist simply because you're running for office. Lots of people 130 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: do those things. And what he argued is that in 131 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: this instance, I can tell you it is my personal 132 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: belief is that clearly paying hush money or paying for 133 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: a non disclosure agreement does not constitute a campaign expense. 134 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: That's what the former FEC chairman would have testified to quote. 135 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: To use an example I've often used, it's not a 136 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: campaign expense. If a business person is running for office 137 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: and his businesses are getting sued, and he goes to 138 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: his company's lawyers and say, I wish to settle these 139 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: lawsuits against us. We've got some wage employment lawsuits and 140 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: a woman is alleging sexual harassment. We've got thirty six 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: thousand employees. But we've got to make these three complaints 142 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: and the press will make a big deal about them. 143 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: So I want you to settle these. And the company 144 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: lawyers say, no, these are great cases, we should win, 145 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: we shouldn't settle them. He says, I don't care. I'm 146 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: running for office. I don't want press stories on it. 147 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: I want them you to settle them quietly. Well, he 148 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: cannot use campaign funds to pay that settlement, even though 149 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: he's clearly doing it for the purpose of influencing his campaign. 150 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of similar to what went on here. Smith 151 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: continued quote, So my personal belief is that this clearly 152 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: would not have been a campaign expenditure, never had to 153 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: be reported, and therefore was not misreported. And you know 154 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: what the judge said, The jury can't hear a word 155 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: of that because it demonstrates he didn't say this part, 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: but because it demonstrates that the prosecutor's case is utter, 157 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: incomplete garbage. 158 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: Lastly, on this issue center, the war on truth is really, 159 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: I think incredible. You can see it. And you mentioned 160 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: this earlier. In the media's coverage of the Trump case. 161 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: You had MSNBC. You and I were texting back and 162 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: forth on this because it was it was a headline 163 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: that was so laughable, and the headline was how Michael 164 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Cohen's pass lies make him a more credible witness. And 165 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: they weren't the only ones to try to pull this, 166 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, Jedi mind trick on people. The new York 167 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: Times had a headline it says, when Michael Cohen's lies 168 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: helped the case against Trump, what world are we living 169 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: in where this is what the media comes up with afterwards? 170 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: A spinnet Well, listen number one, The media unfortunately regularly lies. 171 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,479 Speaker 2: They engage in lies. They view their role as propagandas 172 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: it's not. They're not interested in the truth. They're not 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: interested in reporting both sides. They're not interested in facts. 174 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: They frame their mission as saving democracy, which means pushing 175 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: this country to the left. This is concerns Donald Trump. 176 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: It means doing everything you can to destroy Trump and 177 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: make sure, no matter what, that he's not re elected 178 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: president of the United States. The spins are rather pitiful, 179 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: the idea that, well, you know what, Cohen lies so 180 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: much that he's really a believable witness, Like that's just weird. 181 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: And I got to say, the media's lies about Cohen's 182 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: lies making him more credible are so absurd. It just 183 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: shows they're really bad liars. 184 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 186 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. I'm 187 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: thankful that you're doing this. I'm thankful that you're teaming up. 188 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: I hope that Democrats will say this is a non 189 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: political issue and we should push for this because everybody 190 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: needs to be able to have this and that right 191 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: and be protected. Have you heard from Democrats? Are they 192 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: going to get on board? Because this doesn't seem political 193 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: to me. I know so many people that have voted 194 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden have done IBF of course, voted for 195 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. It's not political. 196 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: It's onting to have a family. 197 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: So we filed the legislation today. Today, Katie Britta and 198 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: I have an op ed in the Wall Street Journal, 199 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 2: So you should go and read the op ed we 200 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: wrote in the Wall Street Journal. It's in today's journal today. 201 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm in New York on Monday, I'm going to be 202 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: in New York City with Katie. We're gonna do a 203 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: number of media interviews starting early in the morning talking 204 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: about this legislation. I think it is really important legislation. 205 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: This should be legislation that passes the Senate one hundred 206 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: and nothing. Every Senator agrees with the substate policy. Katie 207 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: and I are going to try to pass it, and 208 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: we're going to go to the Senate floor and seek 209 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: to pass it. And what I do not know is 210 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: if the Democrats will block it. And if they block it, 211 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: it would be, even for today's Democrat party, an incredibly 212 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: cynical move, because what it would be is the Democrats saying, 213 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: you know what, we want to have the issue. We 214 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: want to accuse Republicans of trying to ban IVF, and 215 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: so we're going to prevent you from protecting. 216 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: IVF so we can say you want to ban it, so. 217 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: Then we can falsely claim you want to ban it. 218 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: That would be the only conceivable reason the Democrats could 219 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: object is if they do not want to protect IVF. Now, 220 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: the Democrats have their own bill that they claim is 221 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: about IVF, but it actually is an abortion bill focused 222 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 2: on their broader abortion agenda, and they know that this 223 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: is a very narrow bill that puts in clear, ironclad 224 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: protections for IVF. As I said, every Senator, Republican and 225 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: Democrat agrees with that policy. So the only question is 226 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: will the Democrats play politics so much that they will 227 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: oppose a policy that they agree with because they don't 228 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: want to give up on the issue. 229 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 230 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: I hope not but we'll see, we'll see what the 231 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: Democrat reaction to it is. 232 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: Is this one of those moments where vertical listeners, people 233 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: that share this show on social media should definitely reach 234 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: out to their centers and say, hey, this is a nonpartisan, 235 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: non political issue, we're asking to support it, and call 236 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: with that spirit in mind of their senator, no matter 237 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: where they live. 238 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, Look, this is something IVF has support. Nearly 239 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: ninety percent of American support IVF. IVF is profoundly profamily. 240 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: It is. 241 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: It is a miracle. Look for most of human history, 242 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: if parents are not able to conceive that they're just 243 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: left childless and in sorrow, and it is through the 244 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: miracles of science that that parents who struggle with infertility 245 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: are able to be moms and dads and raise raise 246 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: babies and children. That that is a wonderful, beautiful thing. 247 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: And I hope we see some bipartisan unity the next 248 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: week or two. 249 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: We'll find out, Senator. 250 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: I hope you have great success on this built We're 251 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: going to keep everybody updated on it as it moves forward. Finally, 252 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: I do have to call out the media. This week 253 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: was one heck of a week in New York City. 254 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: Where you're headed. And it made me laugh because the 255 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: media now seems to be hedging their bets that Donald 256 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Trump may win in a New York court because of 257 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: the disaster that's been this trial with brag at the 258 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: end and with Cohen, to the point where even CNN 259 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: said this, take a look. 260 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: If I'm enjuring. I've been warned that Michael Cohen lies. 261 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 4: The prosecutors have said this, They've set it up. I'm 262 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: prepared for that. I'm prepared for He's lied in the 263 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: past repeatedly. I don't know if a jury is prepared 264 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: for he lied to this jury two days ago, but 265 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: now he's really telling the truth. 266 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 6: If you have a cooperating witness that can't tell the truth, 267 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: that a plea elocution, that means that that witness is 268 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 6: basically worseless. 269 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: He test right, He lied to the judge in this 270 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: priority case. 271 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 6: And then Todd blanches cross examination. So basically, whenever you 272 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 6: get into a problem, it's always blamed somebody else. Blame 273 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 6: President Trump, blame the judge. How many places do you 274 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: have to go where this guy has lied many times 275 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 6: under oath and it's always somebody else's fault. It's not 276 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 6: his fault. And that's pretty powerful evidence to a jury 277 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: to say you shouldn't believe anything this guy says it. 278 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 6: And if you have to rely on his testimony in 279 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: any fashion whatsoever in order to convict Donald Trump, i e. 280 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 6: In order to fix Donald Trump's intent, you have a 281 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 6: reasonable dobt. You can't have anything else but a reasonable doubt. 282 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Seven people are on that panel. Seven And this is 283 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: how they've been covering the Trump trial the entire time. 284 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: It's the center of the world for Democrats. They wanted 285 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: to be guilty. They've gone all in with their most 286 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: brilliant minds, and now at the very end they're like, Yeah, 287 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna happen because this guy's a liar 288 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: and the whole case is a joke. 289 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: Look, they are obsessed with the Trump trial. CNN covers 290 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: it from from dawn to dust, constantly, breathlessly. They get 291 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: so excited when Stormy Daniels is on the stand and 292 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: talking about sex with the president. Oh that makes their 293 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: cold little hearts go pitter patents at CNN. But it 294 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: says something when even CNNA is like, Wow, this case 295 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: is weak and it only takes one They are getting 296 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: very very nervous, and here play the second clip. 297 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 7: Anderson, let me ask you, if I could put you 298 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 7: in the jury box, having just witnessed that piece of 299 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 7: cross examination, do you have doubts that that conversation happened 300 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 7: the way Michael Cohen testified on his direct examination that. 301 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: I think it's absolutely absolutely, I think it's devastating. I 302 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 4: mean for Michael Cones's credibility on this, I mean, in 303 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: this one particular topic, whether it's you know, he just didn't, 304 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's hard to I don't know. Yes, 305 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: I think if I was a juror in this case 306 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: watching that, I would think this guy's making this up 307 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: as he's going along, right, or he's making this particular 308 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 4: story up. You know, Todd Blas is pointing out you 309 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: were testifying just on Tuesday in this court, you know, 310 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: and all morning along he's been pointing out, you know, 311 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: inconsistencies in Michael Cones's testimony, or at least questionable aspects 312 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: of Michael Cones's testimony, but nothing that you would necessarily 313 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: as a juror think, Okay, that's clearly a lie. Maybe 314 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: that's just a miss he was misunderstanding, or you know, 315 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: he was dragging or whatever this one. Todd Blam's clearly 316 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: saved this to write before the lunch break. 317 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm assuming because it was. 318 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: Just so well crafted and just point by point walking 319 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 4: through this story which at first seemed you know, why 320 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: why this seems like a ridiculous story. It's some'm fourteen 321 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: year old at sending him, you know, nasty text messages 322 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: and he's going to call it Keith Schiller about it. 323 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: And then you realize you look at the he showed 324 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 4: the phone logs that the prosecutor had shown, and it's 325 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: the phone call that that that that that Michael Cohen 326 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 4: had previously talked about. I think it is severely damaging 327 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: to Michael Cone's testimony. 328 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this has got to be like their worst 329 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: day ever at CNN went to watch this and they're 330 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: saying there, going, look, Mike Cohen's a liar. 331 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: The whole case is a shame. Look. 332 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm actually wondering if CNN, like like if the hosts 333 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: had become day drinkers now, like like if they're they're 334 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: slamming back to Kila shops, the sadness that they're saying 335 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: it now. 336 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: Listen to be clear, Trump could still be convicted. 337 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: Sure, this is a wildly left wing prosecutor, this is 338 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: a wildly left wing judge, and this is a jury 339 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: drawn from a New York jury pool, so presumably it 340 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: is an overwhelmingly democrat jury. I don't believe any conviction 341 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: if there is one, will stand up on appeal. But look, 342 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: given how bad things went, we could see an acquittal. 343 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: Last question on this, will Trump be on the stand 344 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: before the end of this trial? 345 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely not? Zero points zero zero, zero percent chance. 346 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: Why? 347 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: Number one, the criminal defendant has no burden a proof. 348 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: It is the prosecution that has the burden of proof. 349 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 2: The prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that 350 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: the defendant committed the crime. Number two, Any defendant has 351 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: a Fifth Amendment right protected in the Constitution not to 352 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: testify at his own trial, and most defendants choose not to. 353 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: But number three, for any lawyer to put Donald J. 354 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: Trump on the stand under oath and to open a 355 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: up to cross examination, and by the way, cross examination 356 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: about damn near anything, particularly with a left wing judge 357 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: who's a partisan, who is not going to corral in 358 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: the cross examination, you are inviting disaster. To be clear, 359 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: there is no chance Donald Trump would be put on 360 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: the stand, it would be lunacy to do so. I 361 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: don't know if the Trump team will have other witnesses 362 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: they put on or not. They might, they might not, 363 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: but it is an absolute certainty Trump will not be 364 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: one of them. And hopefully this circus will be over soon. 365 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 3: As before. 366 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation 367 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: on this topic, you can go back and dow the 368 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. 369 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: I want to get back to the big story number 370 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: three of the week you may have missed. He's absolutely right, 371 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: and it's sad that Anthony Blagan can sit there and 372 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: straight up lie. And one of the lies that he told, 373 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: and I want to get your reaction to it, is 374 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: he said that we we haven't withheld any weapons. Well, 375 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: the White House says he's a liar. Here's Jean Pierre 376 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: on the fifteenth. 377 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 8: And we have said that it is one pause, one 378 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 8: pause on these bombs, one package, one shipment, and that 379 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 8: is obviously connected to RAFA and the potential of what 380 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 8: could happen in Rauffa, and we've been very clear about that. 381 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: So who's lying? Senator the White House or blinking or 382 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: is the White House calling Blinking out for his lie? 383 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: Well, listen, Blinking is spinning like crazy. 384 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: And understand when Joe Biden went on TV and threatened 385 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: to cut off the weapons, that surprised the administration. They 386 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: didn't know that he was going to freelance like that. 387 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: And so they're trying to do clean up on that. 388 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: But they're still holding the damn weapons. They're not sending them, 389 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: so they're trying to spend that they're sending. Now, we 390 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: sent other weapons that it's just the current shipment that 391 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: we're threatening. 392 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: I got to say, so, look, the first part of 393 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: that cross. 394 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: Examination, when I was focused on on the Washington Post story, 395 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: and you and I covered this in a pod I 396 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: don't know about a week or two ago. The most 397 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: damning conclusion of that story that they were offering intelligence 398 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: and where senior Hamas officials were and where AMAS territunnels 399 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: were in exchange for not going into Rafa is the 400 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: necessary implication that they had that information, they knew where 401 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: the senior Hamas leaders were, and they were not telling Israel. Now, 402 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: I will say Blincoln gave a categorical denial, and maybe 403 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: maybe he's right, I do not know. I know that 404 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: that story appeared in multiple media outlets simultaneously, so someone 405 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: was deliberately and directly putting it forward. And if Blncoln 406 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: was lying, then he perjured himself because he was under 407 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: oath and he was unequivocal in what he said. He 408 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: said they didn't offer Israel anything not to enter Rafa. Now, 409 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: I think the chances that Blincoln is is is not 410 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: telling the truth there are very very high. But you know, 411 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: these issues have a way of over time, the truth 412 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: comes out and tender. 413 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: Look, there's the people that don't understand how leaks work 414 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: in Washington. I think it's so you understand, there's sometimes 415 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: are leaks that come out that is like one person 416 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: that's genuinely leaking something. Then there's other strategic leaks that 417 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: are done on purpose where you can't use their names. 418 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: And look, I've been a part of that where they're like, hey, 419 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: well you go to this reporter and this, and then 420 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: three other people go to other reporters and then they say, hey, 421 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: we want to get this message out there for in 422 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: a few days from now. We want to let them 423 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: know this is coming down the pipeline. When you have 424 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: four people, it's organized. It's it's an administration's decision to 425 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: send people out to give a heads up on something 426 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: and to get it in the newspaper, to get it 427 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: in print, which is exactly what you were quoting. 428 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: No, that's exactly right. Anytime you have four people that 429 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: are going to multiple outlets. It wasn't just the Washington Post. 430 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: I quoted the Post, but but I think it was Reuters. 431 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: It was several places. There's a decision, and someone has 432 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: made a decision, we want to drive this story. And 433 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: when four people are going, you're sending okay, you you, you, 434 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: and you you guys go talk and push that story. 435 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: So somebody pushed that story, and those four people who 436 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: pushed it. By the way, the reporters know who those 437 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: four people are, and they now know that one or 438 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: the other is directly lying. Either the four people who 439 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: talked to them were lying to them, or Tony Blincoln 440 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: just committed perjury. One of the other has to be 441 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: the case, so that in time there may be real 442 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: consequences to Blinken's testimony on that. The rest of it, though, listen, 443 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: I gotta say, when we got into for example, the 444 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: Iranian oil. I found it stunning that the Secretary of 445 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: State didn't know, didn't care how much oil are they selling? 446 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: Or I don't know how much were they selling. I 447 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: don't know how much are they now. 448 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: I don't know how. 449 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: Many ships were in the ghost fleece before. I don't 450 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: know how many ships are there now. 451 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: I don't know. 452 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: It's because they don't give a damn. They don't care. 453 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: When you looked at you and he goes you tell me, 454 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're the secretary of State. You're the one 455 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: that's supposed to be up on all of this information 456 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: on the sanctions. 457 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: Should know more than you should know on this. Am 458 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: I right? 459 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: If he cared? He does not care. The overwhelming foreign 460 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: policy objective of Joe Biden and this entire administration, and 461 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: sadly most of the Democrats in Congress is continuing to 462 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: appease Iran an inter renew Iran nuclear deal, even while 463 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: Iran is trying to murder Mike Pompeo. The former US 464 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: Secretary of State, Raisi, who Blincoln just put out a statement, 465 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: you know, commemorating and commiserating his death. Rayisi was trying 466 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: to murder Blincoln's predecessor and like was trying to murder 467 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: him two days ago. 468 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: It is stunning. 469 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: And so because they desperately want to deal with Iran, 470 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: he doesn't care how much oiled it. By the way, 471 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: this is the same administration that's doing everything they can 472 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: to cut off oil and gas production and sales in 473 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: the United States. This is the same Joe Biden that 474 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: halted new permits to export LNG. So if it's a 475 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: ma can selling oil and guests, they know who's doing it, 476 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: they want to stop it. But if it's a homicidal 477 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: religious theocrat who hates Israel, who hates America, who chants 478 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: death to America, death to Israel, he can sell as 479 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: much oil as he wants. What you know, what's one 480 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars to a psychopath who wants to murder 481 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: us all. 482 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Senator, one other question I do want to ask you about, 483 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: and that involves some of Anthony Blincoln, but just a 484 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: broader shock. The Biden administration issued condolences to Iran. You 485 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: were just talking about the Iranian order oil and the 486 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: Biden State Department sent official condolences for the Iranian president, 487 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: who is known as the butcher of Tehran. And yet 488 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: the US is offering official condolences and they say this 489 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: is standard protocol since win. 490 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, look, as I asked on Twitter, only slightly tongue 491 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: in cheek, I said, you know, you should have seen 492 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: the condolence letter the State Department put out when Adolf 493 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: Hitler died. But like, we don't mourn the loss of 494 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: mass murderers. Understand, Rayisi was a mass murder by the 495 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: way he murdered children in his own country. He was 496 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: he was in charge of making the morals police in 497 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: Iran even stricter. You know the groups that we see online, 498 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: things like Queers for Palestine. Race is the guy in 499 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: charge of murdering homosexuals. He's the one that takes you 500 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: to the top of a tall building, or actually his 501 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: goons are to be fair, it's it's probably not him personally, 502 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: but his goons take you to the top of a 503 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: tall building and throw you off. He's the one that 504 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: that that that that that if a you know, woman 505 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 2: removes her her head covering, and and and that that 506 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: that is in charge of administering the beatings and whipping 507 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: and capital punishment. 508 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: He is a monster, by the way. 509 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: He is also directly responsible for the murders of hundreds 510 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: of US servicemen and women. He is directly respectible for 511 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: October seventh, for the murder of twelve hundred Israelis. He 512 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: is directly responsible for leading this viciously anti Semitic, hateful regime. 513 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: The world should celebrate that Rayisi is dead, but this 514 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: administration is not celebrating. And to be clear, the United 515 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 2: Nations flew their flags at half staff. That's what you 516 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: do when you commemorate the loss of a world leader. 517 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: That's what you do when you commemorate the loss of 518 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: someone who is to be revered, who is to be admired. 519 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: And in this United Nations they are such vicious anti Semites. 520 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: Rayisi fits the bill. 521 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wonder if these guys were in 522 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: charge when we killed Asam Bin Lauden, would they have 523 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: then sent condolences to al Qaida? 524 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: And notice Blincoln didn't condemn what the ued did? I mean, 525 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: I gave him the opportunity. He's like, well, well, I 526 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: need to know the context? What context? Flag poll halfway up? Okay, 527 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: you got all the context? Good or bad? You agree? 528 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Look, 529 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: I mean that's he doesn't want to condemn it. Why 530 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: because he agrees with it. 531 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Sentner, 532 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 533 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcast 534 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 535 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: day when you listen to Verdict. 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