WEBVTT - INSTANT REACTION: LeBron James signs with Philadelphia 76ers | NBA

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<v Speaker 1>The volume. All right, welcome to hips to night here

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<v Speaker 1>at the volume Heavy Friday, everybody. Oh Bob, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are having a great end to your week. I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys from Houston. I am in a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>here for my brother's wedding. I was hoping Lebron would

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<v Speaker 1>have made his decision a little bit earlier so that

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<v Speaker 1>I could be nice and comfortable in my studio right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But alas he took his time, he made a decision,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to the Philadelphia seventy six ers. An

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely shocking outcome. I would have had this one fourth

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<v Speaker 1>at highest in terms of likelihood. Obviously all eyes were

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<v Speaker 1>on Cleveland Golden State in Miami. But Lebron's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Philadelphia seventy six er today. I really just

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<v Speaker 1>want to have an instant reaction first impressions. This is

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<v Speaker 1>so out of left field for me. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>that was consistently on the list. Jackson and I were

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<v Speaker 1>talking before we started recording, how like Obviously there was

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<v Speaker 1>the Bob Meyer's appearance on the podcast, and Rich Paul

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<v Speaker 1>was consistent that Philly was on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's just for me personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really hard time envisioning Lebron going to Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>so it just is a place that I haven't spent

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of time mentally kind of like thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we're gonna do just an instant reaction, first

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<v Speaker 1>impression stuff today. I want to talk about the fit questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the Lebron talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>he was thinking about retiring. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the where I think they stack in the east, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of first impressions. We'll talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>what potential trades could be on the in the on

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<v Speaker 1>the horizon for them in terms of continuing to build

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<v Speaker 1>out this team.

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<v Speaker 2>And then tomorrow morning, what.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do is we'll do like a more detailed let me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me sleep on it for a day and let

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<v Speaker 1>me think about some things, and we'll put together a

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<v Speaker 1>more you know, kind of second impressions type of a

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<v Speaker 1>show tomorrow morning. You guys know the joke before we

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<v Speaker 1>That helps us a lot. All right, let's talk some basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this was kind of out left field, out

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<v Speaker 1>of left field for me. Lebron ends up tweeting an explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, I thought I was done when the season ended.

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<v Speaker 1>A very fascinating kind of look at how he was

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<v Speaker 1>contemplating his basketball mortality there for a minute. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>ready to announce it, and I knew I needed some

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<v Speaker 1>time to really decide. But I was pretty sure I

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<v Speaker 1>played my last game. I was honest at that last

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<v Speaker 1>press conference when I said I needed to look at

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<v Speaker 1>myself and decide if I still love this game. I

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<v Speaker 1>still truly love this game, and I have more to give.

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<v Speaker 1>The last few weeks have been really special. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been able to have no clue what to do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>take real time to just think. I've had an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>few months with all the people I love trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure it all out. This is my last decision. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going for money, I'm not going for family. What

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<v Speaker 1>am I really playing for? At this point? I still

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<v Speaker 1>want to sacrifice. I still want to work, I still

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<v Speaker 1>want to grind. I still want to compete, to win,

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<v Speaker 1>and to have a chance at the feeling of winning

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<v Speaker 1>another championship. I believe I can help make the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six ers a championship team. And I am so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to energize a new fan base and to start

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible journey one last time. Thank you La Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>al Forever love in Northeast Ohio will always be home.

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<v Speaker 1>And then some emojis. I thought the piece of about

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<v Speaker 1>the mortality piece was fascinating to me about this because

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<v Speaker 1>he went on that trip when he was celebrating with

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen Calves and he talked about I think

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Jefferson and Shanning Frye were talking about how like

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron was still like clearly dieting and clearly you know,

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<v Speaker 1>carrying around a big jug of water and still doing

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<v Speaker 1>all the workouts and stuff. And I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the important details there is that like being one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best basketball players of all time, if not the best,

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<v Speaker 1>takes an enormous amount of work, Like being a forty

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<v Speaker 1>one year old who still is a top ten playoff

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<v Speaker 1>player in the league takes an enormous amount of work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he was just contemplating whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually worth it for him to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one thing that can drive that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a love for the game. And you know, combine that

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<v Speaker 1>with his competitiveness and his desire to win, and here

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<v Speaker 1>we are. We're gonna get to watch Lebron James play

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<v Speaker 1>basketball for at least one more season. It's a player

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<v Speaker 1>option for that second season. So I think that's just

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<v Speaker 1>there in case he wants to retire, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to see Lebron with the Philadelphia's seventy six ers.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's dig in a little bit to the fit,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was some reasons why I didn't, like mentally

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<v Speaker 1>kind of enter the headspace of Lebron being a sixer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of just had to do with that

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<v Speaker 1>basketball fit. Like Lebron, I talked about this idea, like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see Lebron succeed, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see him succeed being Lebron. I want to see him

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<v Speaker 1>succeed being a version of himself that kind of maximizes

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<v Speaker 1>what he's great at, and like hide some of his

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<v Speaker 1>specific weaknesses, and that's why I looked at some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other places. You know, like, Okay, Lebron at this

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<v Speaker 1>point is still a great playmaking talent. The Lakers' lineups

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<v Speaker 1>when Lebron was on the floor by himself, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was commanding the offense last year, were some of the Lakers'

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<v Speaker 1>most successful groups. And so that's what it had me

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about Golden State in Miami in particular, because he

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<v Speaker 1>would just be the secondary ball handler in both of

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<v Speaker 1>those situations as opposed to some of these other situations

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<v Speaker 1>where he would struggle with usage. And I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 1>all seen the tweets that have been going around in

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<v Speaker 1>the last little bit, like a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>questioning whether or not the usage rates of all these

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<v Speaker 1>guys kind of makes sense fitting with each other. Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>last year twenty seven percent usage. Tyrese Maxi last year

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine percent usage. VJ edgecomb as a rookie getting

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<v Speaker 1>pick and roll reps, getting opportunities to attack us at

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen percent usage last year, Jalen Brown thirty five percent usage,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the highest usage players in the league last year.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what it looks like when Joel Embiid is

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and available. He had a thirty two percent usage

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<v Speaker 1>rate last year. So like, it's definitely like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a clunky fit in that specific respect. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to start in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>framing of them as a contender, because does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they were all high usage players, does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean that they can't play together? No, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that at all. What it does mean, though, is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to be a challenge, meaning that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a wider range of outcomes. Jackson made this point

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<v Speaker 1>before we started recording, and I thought it was really smart.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, the Knicks probably have the narrowest range

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<v Speaker 1>of outcomes for all the different versions of themselves that

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<v Speaker 1>they can be this year. Right, Like their ceiling is

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<v Speaker 1>not astronomically high, but their floor is, like it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>right there by their ceiling, we just know what the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks are going to be. The Sixers, certainly with their talent,

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<v Speaker 1>have a higher ceiling than the Knicks, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>have a lower floor than the Knicks because of that

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<v Speaker 1>wide range of outcomes based on whether or not these

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<v Speaker 1>guys actually fit together, based on these guys whether or not.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are able to piece together an offense that

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<v Speaker 1>is greater than the sum of their parts rather than

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<v Speaker 1>lesser than the sum of their parts. And it really

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to a couple of different things. So Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James last year had a bad jump shooting season. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think you'll have a better jump shooting season this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Lebron certainly is not a pure jump shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. We talked about it at various points.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brown was a forty fifth percentile spot up player

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<v Speaker 1>last year. He was not a good spot up player.

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<v Speaker 1>So if this turns into we're gonna run spread pick

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<v Speaker 1>and roll with Tyre Smaxey and Joel Embiid and Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Brown and Lebron James are standing off the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of like like dribbling the ball off

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<v Speaker 1>the floor slowly, slowly getting into pick and roll everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else is standing around, then yeah, you're gonna get diminishing

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<v Speaker 1>returns there. Because now what you're doing is you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James for all the things he's great at to

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<v Speaker 1>be a spot up shooter. You're asking Jalen Brown for

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<v Speaker 1>all the things he's great at to be a spot

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<v Speaker 1>up shooter. It puts a very it puts together a

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<v Speaker 1>very diminishing return type of outcome for those guys. The

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<v Speaker 1>same thing goes for you know, like certainly when Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>is looking to attack, Tyri Smaxy can shoot. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot up player. But outside of a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>very specific situations, if you are just running spread, pick

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<v Speaker 1>and roll, it's going to lead to diminishing returns. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you take advantage of the skill sets of

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<v Speaker 1>all of these guys in that universe? You have to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of what each of their aggregate skill sets

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<v Speaker 1>add up to. So you don't have a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>jump shooting talent in that lineup, but what you do

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<v Speaker 1>have is a lot of speed. You have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of size, like Lebron and Jalen Brown are very physically imposing,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have guys that can beat people off the dribble,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also have guys that can overpower people. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you actually have quite a bit of aggregate like

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<v Speaker 1>just offensive skill overall, like a combination of ball handling ability,

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<v Speaker 1>playmaking ability, shot making ability. Right, So what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do with this group is get up the floor

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<v Speaker 1>early in the clock we'll talk about transition in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but focusing on the half court getting up early in

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<v Speaker 1>the clock so that you can have multiple attacks. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we talked about a lot, if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys remember in the playoffs, was when you start to

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<v Speaker 1>run into a elite defenses, you don't see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like one drive, kick, wide open three. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen because the elite defenses they tend to flatten that

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<v Speaker 1>first drive a little bit, so it doesn't really break

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<v Speaker 1>the defense down that much, and then they close out

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<v Speaker 1>so well that often we talked about the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>stacking drives. You need to stack drives against elite defenses,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning like one guy attacks barely breaks down the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and the next guy attacks further breaks down the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the next guy attacks really breaks down the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe a fourth attack. Even if you get

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<v Speaker 1>it early enough in the clock and you get an

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<v Speaker 1>open look. That is going to be the strength of

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<v Speaker 1>this Sixers team when they need to break down elite defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>If they get the ball up early and they get

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<v Speaker 1>multiple attacks and they trust each other, like I make

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<v Speaker 1>this first move, I don't have a great look for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but I bet the defense just a little bit, keep

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<v Speaker 1>it moving the next guy attacks. If they take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of their cumulative, their aggregate offensive skill by breaking defenses down,

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<v Speaker 1>by stacking attacks, they're gonna be really, really difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>guard when they get to the highest levels of the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Playoffs against the best defenses in the league. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>if they walk the ball up and they get into

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<v Speaker 1>just one two attacks in a possession and everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is standing around, now you're relegating guys like Jaylen Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and Lebron James to being spot up shooters, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lead to diminishing returns.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't even talked about Joel Embid yet. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be in and out of the lineup a

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<v Speaker 1>lot next year. So that's why kind of focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>those four guys. But it's the same thing. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get Joel Embiid the basketball, if you go

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<v Speaker 1>to him early, like late in the clock, after you

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<v Speaker 1>walk it up and he's backing a dude down with

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<v Speaker 1>eleven to ten on the shot clock and everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is just spotting up, there's gonna be diminishing returns. You

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be nights where guys take bad shots. Lebron's

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated with shots selection Jalen Brown gets marginalized in a

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<v Speaker 1>MAXI will have games where he's not super involved, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are gonna be games where it looks

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<v Speaker 1>growth in the investment. If they this is where I

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<v Speaker 1>think Lebron's leadership is gonna be key. If Lebron gets

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<v Speaker 1>in there and all these guys sit down and they

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<v Speaker 1>look at each other and they go, if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>achieve our ultimate goal, we have to trust each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to lean on each other, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>to be greater than the s of our parts by

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<v Speaker 1>making personal sacrifice, and they embrace that journey. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>there will be bad nights, it'll have a happy ending

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<v Speaker 1>because by the time they get through the eighty two games,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time they get through multiple playoff series, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a moment where they're like, Okay, we know how

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<v Speaker 1>to do this now because we've made the investment, we've

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<v Speaker 1>made the sacrifice, and now we're piecing this all together.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the cool things about this too, like from

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<v Speaker 1>the standpoint of getting through the eighty two when you

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<v Speaker 1>have that many good basketball players, you can structure your

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<v Speaker 1>lineups in a way where there's just always really good

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<v Speaker 1>players on the court. So there can be units where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, Tyrese Maxi's off the floor, Anthony Simon's

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<v Speaker 1>is in, or Justin Edwards is in, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look and beads off the floor. Ariel huck Porti's in.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like you have Areal huck Porti and you

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<v Speaker 1>have Anthony Simons or you of Justin Evers. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you also have Lebron James and Jaln Brown on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>right or Lebron's off the floor, Jalen Brown's off the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>We're leaning on old school Tyrese Maxi, Joel and and

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<v Speaker 1>be two man game, right, Like, they're gonna have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to constantly have a lot of pressure on the

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<v Speaker 1>defense because they have such a depth of shot creation talent.

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<v Speaker 1>How many teams in the NBA have four all Star level,

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<v Speaker 1>like the all Star level shot creation talents. How many

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the NBA have four dudes that are like

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<v Speaker 1>all NBA level talents that can create offense. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be where the uh, where the upside is there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is gonna be a wide range of outcomes

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<v Speaker 1>as far as like the the the kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the bench groups as you as you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have Dean Wade.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dean Wade is gonna start several games too,

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<v Speaker 1>as Lebron James is dealing with, you know, health related

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<v Speaker 1>issues throughout the year. That's like a guy who can

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately start games. So like a sixth starter that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a nice piece from from Bob Meyer's helping

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<v Speaker 1>this summer. Aaron hug Porty at the center rotation. The

0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.400
<v Speaker 1>center rotation is a little tricky because Joel Embiid's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be in and out of the lineup obviously with health

0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.000
<v Speaker 1>related stuff. Hug Porty at least is fast enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to keep up in the open floor with

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<v Speaker 1>these guys. Den Bona is a guy I actually like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can block some shots, you can finish around the basket,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a little thin in the center rotation. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the trade market a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>do wonder if the Sixers will be active in the

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<v Speaker 1>trade market to acquire a little bit more center depth,

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<v Speaker 1>especially speed at the center position. But at the guard position.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird because they're thinn right, you have VJ. Edgecomb,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Tyrese Maxi. Anthrony Simons is your backup guard.

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<v Speaker 1>LeBaron Filon will see how much he ends up playing

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a rookie this year. It's a you're

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<v Speaker 1>skinny and you're small, but you're lightning fast. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>very very fast group. One of the things I like

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<v Speaker 1>about that group I talked about this with if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys remember Toronto last year. I like the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>having like, oh, we have speed guards that if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a slow person on the or we target the

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<v Speaker 1>slow person and we're going at them every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we also have power players where it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you try to match speed, we're targeting the smalls. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's the like when I imagine a lot of Tyree Maxey

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James two man game. Imagine a scenario where I

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<v Speaker 1>need to have big, strong forwards on the floor that

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<v Speaker 1>can hang with the Jlen Brown, that can hang with

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<v Speaker 1>the Lebron James. But I also need speed on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor that can hang with Tyree Maxy, that can hang

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<v Speaker 1>with VJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Edgecombe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now those guys are on the floor simultaneously, how are

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<v Speaker 1>they able to guard actions that interchange with those two groups. Well,

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.280
<v Speaker 1>if they switch, now Lebron can attack a size mismatch,

0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Tyras Maxey can attack a speed mismatch. If they don't switch,

0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that's where you get those natural openings, Like they're hedging

0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and recovering. Now Tyres maxis slipping out and he's wide

0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.960
<v Speaker 1>open for three on a little behind the back pass

0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:59.360
<v Speaker 1>from Lebron or oh Lebron setting the screen they're showing

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<v Speaker 1>at the level, Well, Naxi's able to throw a little

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<v Speaker 1>pocket passer, a little thing over the top of Now

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Lebron's leading a four on three right, Like, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic from this team that I think has the potential

0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.399
<v Speaker 1>to make them really hard to guard. Going back to

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that idea being like greater than the some of your

0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.760
<v Speaker 1>parts rather than lesser than the some of your parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting multiple guys involved in actions is an easy way

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, Right. If I'm just running a standard

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pick and roll where I'm using a role

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.159
<v Speaker 1>player on one part of the action, you're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to coalesce around the star and get them to get

0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.920
<v Speaker 1>rid of the basketball. But if I have two stars

0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 1>involved in the action and they play very different possession

0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of position groups. It makes the defense make some complicated decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Get into horn sets and three man action, whether it's

0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.679
<v Speaker 1>stack or it's double drag or various things that you

0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.159
<v Speaker 1>can run out of horns. Get three of your stars

0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.800
<v Speaker 1>involved in the action. Now we're cooking with grease, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine. You can imagine a situation where it's

0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Tyrese Maxi in a horn set with Lebron James and

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.440
<v Speaker 1>joelmb or double drag with those two guys, it can

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>just get really really difficult to guard. And so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of potential here, but there's also potential for

0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it to be clunky, and that's going to be the

0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.840
<v Speaker 1>job of these guys. It's going to be so important

0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.440
<v Speaker 1>for them early in the season to get together talk

0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:19.760
<v Speaker 1>about sacrifice, talk about their the journey that this season

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.840
<v Speaker 1>is going to take them through, and how difficult it's

0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be at times as everyone's kind of stepping on.

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Each other's toes.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they buy into that bigger picture, the potential

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.960
<v Speaker 1>is just off the charts. So looking at like just overall,

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.440
<v Speaker 1>how they stack up in the rest of the Eastern Conference,

0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of question marks right, So, like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what to make it Indiana. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how healthy Tyres Max is going to be.

0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much the difference between a Zubots

0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and a Miles Turner is going to impact that team

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.840
<v Speaker 1>without having a traditional five out look like Miles Turner's

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.480
<v Speaker 1>ability to shoot was a big part of what made

0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the Pacers good. We still don't know what's going on

0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>with Kawhi Leonard, whether or not he's going to be

0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.399
<v Speaker 1>able to play next year at all, whether it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>for the Clippers or it'll be for toront Now, like

0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.880
<v Speaker 1>that hangs in the air to me, if I look

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>at the East right now, I think, if I just assuming,

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of making this argument easier, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to assume Kawhi Leonard is going to be a Raptor

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 1>next year and he's going to be able to play.

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<v Speaker 1>My initial impression is those three teams are your top, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Knicks, the Toronto Raptors, and the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six ers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think from there there's just too many question marks.

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.560
<v Speaker 1>The Celtics. Can Paul George stay healthy, Can Jason Tatum

0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 1>stay healthy. Is there center rotation good enough? Are they

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.119
<v Speaker 1>able to get enough dribble penetration? That was one of

0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the biggest weaknesses of that team, right, So, like Boston

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 1>had problems pressuring the rim, they end up losing their

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 1>best rim pressuring player in Jalen Brown. But Boston has

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.679
<v Speaker 1>the ability to make trades, right, So Boston's kind of

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.919
<v Speaker 1>a question mark right now. Looking at Indiana, like we

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.120
<v Speaker 1>just said, question marks centering around whether or not they're

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>able to make whether or not they're able to recapture

0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.640
<v Speaker 1>some of that magic from two years ago. We can

0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 1>go down the line Charlotte, Like Charlotte's really deep with

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<v Speaker 1>talent and tons of shooting, but they're light on shot

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 1>creation talent, like guys that can break the defense down.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a big question mark. Miami, who the hell

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 1>knows what's gonna go on with Giannis and Baham and

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>their fit and whether or not they're able to accumulate

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>enough ball handling talent. Are they gonna get tomarta Row's

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<v Speaker 1>and are they gonna get Bradley beal Right, So once

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<v Speaker 1>I get off those top three, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>question marks. As for that top three though, I think

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.119
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks and the Raptors are the most static in

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<v Speaker 1>that group, meaning like I kind of know.

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<v Speaker 2>What to expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Like plugging Kawhi into Toronto is a very simple dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>He is going to be the guy that helps close

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<v Speaker 1>his games with his shot making. He is a natural

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<v Speaker 1>defensive fit alongside Scottie Barnes. They certainly don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of top end talent that Philly has, but Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>addresses some very specific needs and they impressed me so

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<v Speaker 1>much in that Cavs series. I just think Toronto is

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate contender in that in that Eastern Conference at

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<v Speaker 1>the top and then the Knicks, they really just won

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<v Speaker 1>the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they get a.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorable draw in their playoff path?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>But did I think they matched up really well with

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<v Speaker 1>the Spurs and did I pick them to win that series?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we can't discount the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>have the continuity and they certainly have enough talent that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be in the mix. But it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about that ceiling versus floor dynamic. I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>Sixers have, as currently constructed before any trades, a higher

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling than any of those two teams in that tier,

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks or the Raptors.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a lower floor than the other teams in

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<v Speaker 1>those tiers. So it's very much going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air kind of season for Philly. As

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<v Speaker 1>for how they stack up against San Antonio and Oka See,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel comfortable putting them on that tier yet

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<v Speaker 1>because of that volatility. You know how I said the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks are kind of like a known commodity to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The Spurs and the Thunder are both known commodities as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I put them in that top tier of contenders

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<v Speaker 1>in the league I think. I think okay See and

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio are kind of in a tier by their own. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>do I think the Sixers ceiling is high enough to

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<v Speaker 1>compete with okay See in San Antonio, Yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think their ceiling is that high. But I

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<v Speaker 1>won't put them in that tier until I see them

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<v Speaker 1>realize that ceiling in a more consistent way throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, because I do think it'll be clunky. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think there will be ups and downs. Again, another

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<v Speaker 1>piece of this too, And this is the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>we'll say, and we'll call it a day, and then we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk more tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But first of all, I want to credit Bob Myers.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Myers played this so well. I was talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson before we got going, Like the whole situation is

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating to me because he very clearly is still very

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<v Speaker 1>motivated to try to do this, but for whatever reason

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>it didn't want to do it with Joe Lacob. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation for another day. We'll talk Warriors tomorrow, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell are the Warriors gonna do now? It

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<v Speaker 1>is a sad story there in the Bay Area with

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<v Speaker 1>the end of Steph Curry's prime, But clearly Bob Myers

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to do this still, but just not do

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<v Speaker 1>it for Golden State. So he's building a team in

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<v Speaker 1>Philly and then look at how active he was. He

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>sees the opportunity to go after Jalen Brown. Everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>in the league undervaluing Jalen Brown because they're listening too

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<v Speaker 1>much to their analytics departments. Bob Myers jumps in there

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<v Speaker 1>and makes a deal. Right, he gets on Rich Paul's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the one guy who went on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and was sitting there talking with them, right, So like

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<v Speaker 1>he was actively hustling this situation, and again it was

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<v Speaker 1>a complicated decision, Lebron said to himself and his tweets,

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<v Speaker 1>so like someone needed to sell Lebron on this, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Myers was the visionary, and he sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>with he got with Lebron and he made a pitch

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<v Speaker 1>and he won that race. And so credit credit to

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Myers. But if you look a little deeper into

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<v Speaker 1>it too, so like, so let's say, let's say things

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<v Speaker 1>are clunky. Let's say that we get thirty games into

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<v Speaker 1>the season and it's just super underwhelming. They're seventeen and thirteen.

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>The offense looks like shit. Everyone looks kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily unhappy, but let's just say frustrated. What's good

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<v Speaker 1>about their situation is the Sixers have plenty of draft

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<v Speaker 1>compensation to move around. They are well equipped to make

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<v Speaker 1>trades to pivot in season if they need to. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at these guys, all of them are

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<v Speaker 1>easily tradeable assets outside of maybe Joel Embiid, But Joel

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<v Speaker 1>Embiid puts you in the market of other high Like

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you needed to trade Joel because he had

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<v Speaker 1>another severe knee issue, Like you could attach draft compensation

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<v Speaker 1>to him and go after larger salaries, liking Anthony Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>who we know Lebron still wants to play with, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Or let's say you want to make a smaller move

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<v Speaker 1>that like tweaks, the fit better. All of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are are desirable, like VJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Edge Comb.

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<v Speaker 1>Every team would love to have VJ. Edgecomb, Jaylen Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly think is a tradable asset Tyres MAXI tradeable

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<v Speaker 1>asset Lebron James Right. So, like the whole point is

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<v Speaker 1>is like this team is set up to pivot if

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<v Speaker 1>they need to as well. I think they're gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>it a good long runway. But you have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to make tweaks and to do what needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>done to try to capitalize on this championship window. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I always say, don't overthink it. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>shit ton of talent here. Is it gonna be clunky

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<v Speaker 1>at times?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Is there a wide range of potential outcomes? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there gonna be nights where we look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and go what in the world was Lebron thinking? But

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<v Speaker 1>there are also gonna be nights when we look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and we go holy shit, because there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>talent here. Don't overthink it. This is a ton of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of our top contenders in the league

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<v Speaker 1>this season, and I personally can't wait to see it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sleep on it tonight, come up with as

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<v Speaker 1>much additional kind of thoughts on some of the big

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<v Speaker 1>picture ramifications of this. We'll talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other teams involved. We will have an episode tomorrow. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I have for today, though, guys, again, as always

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<v Speaker 1>a sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and I will see you tomorrow morning.