1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston hod Kuwitz. Were coming to 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: you from socially distant locations at lambeau Field and West 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: At the beginning of this week, we heard from both 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: head coach Matt Lafleur and general manager Brian Guda Counts. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: They held their season ending news conferences, so we will 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: will hit on some of the big topics from there, 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: and the biggest one, quite frankly, is the lack of 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: equivocation if I said that correctly, with how both the 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: head coach and general manager feel about Aaron Rodgers as 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of this team. They made a commitment 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: to him verbally publicly on Monday, not just for one 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: but for multiple years to come, and uh, they really 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: mince no words in that direction. Equivocation is a perfect 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: word to use their Mike one, It's an excellent word. 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: But too, You're exactly right. I mean, the Packers really 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: made no bones about it. Aaron Rodgers is their quarterback 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: for two thousand, twenty one and into the future. That 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: is their expectation that is their plan. That is the 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: way they are operating into this offseason. And it is 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: interesting and you find yourself kind of almost laughing a 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: little bit that we're talking about a guy that in 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: a few days time will become a three time NFL 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: m v P, A guy that had one of the 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: most statistically successful seasons in NFL history, with his one 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: point five pass rating being second only to himself in 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, forty eight touchdown passes, a franchise record, 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: a seventy point seven completion percentage a franchise and personal 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: best for him, Mike, there's no bones about it. When 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has a season like this. The Green Bay Packers, 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: when asked the question what's next, what is the future hold, 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Obviously the future is gonna be Aaron Rodgers. And you 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: want to know one of the reasons why, I think 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: you can say that so confidently, look at the Tampa 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers this week. Tampa Bay Buccaneers weren't even a 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: playoff team last year. They add a forty two forty 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: three year old Tom Brady this season. Now they're in 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The quarterback position has advanced, it's evolved 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and I think you've seen with the way that Rogers 41 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: has taken care of himself and the fact that he 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: has been able to adapt his play style to being 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, understanding what he can do and 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: what he can't do from when he was twenty seven, 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is still at the peak of his powers, 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: and for the foreseeable future, he will be the quarterback 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. Yeah, so, everyone of course is asking, well, then, 48 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: what was all the big hullabaloo and everything, And let's 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: let's just we'll go back a little bit to the 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: postgame news conference after the loss to Tampa Bay. I mean, one, 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: it was extremely emotional time. Everything is very raw. At 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: that point. Aaron Rodgers head confessed, I believe on the 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: radio show, the Pat mcafe's show, that he does that 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: he had really just gotten done shedding some tears with 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: teammates over over a really really disappointing, incredibly disappointing loss. 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of what he said after the 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: game when he said there are a lot of uncertain futures, 58 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: myself included, I really think he just he wasn't going 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: to put himself above any of his teammates. That he 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: knows there's uncertainty about Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams and 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: these guys who are in the final years of their contracts, 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Corey Lindsley, you know, players like that, and he wasn't 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: just gonna say, well, yeah, there's all sorts of uncertainty 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: about them, but I know exactly what's going on with 65 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: me right after, you know, this loss to the Tampa 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. I really think that's all that he was saying. 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: And of course, you know those words because he is 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: he is always very calculated. He doesn't just say things 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: on a whim. But I do think in this particular case, 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: the context of coming, you know, just coming off of 71 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: that loss and everything that was wrapped up in it, 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: and and the fact that the fact that Rogers Rogers 73 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: was just not going to make any declarative statements in 74 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: uh in a business as he likes to say, that 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: has no absolutes. I think that's why this ended up 76 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: taking off the way in which it did. And then 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: we didn't hear from Matt Luthleur Brian Goudakunst right away 78 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: because they're they're dealing with some changes in the coaching 79 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: staff and whatnot, which we're going to talk about here 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: later in the show. So it was sort of the 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: this week of speculation and everything all swirling around. You know, 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: what's Rogers thinking or what's going to happen with Aaron Rodgers. 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: This franchise, this organization has no no hesitation, there's no 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: question in their minds that this team and this franchise 85 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: is moving forward for multiple years here with Aaron Rodgers 86 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: at quarterback, and they're expecting to continue to contend and 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: get back in the same position that they were with 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: the hope that they're going to finish the deal one 89 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: of these times and get back to the Super Bowl. Yeah, 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: when you're this close, when you've gone back to back 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: NFC Championship games and you have the reigning m v 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: P soon to be reigning MVP as your quarterback, that 93 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: is obvious. Say the path that you want to snowbild 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Snowmobile down almost got it out the way I wanted 95 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: it to. Uh, there were there were three things that 96 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: came to a head last week, Mike that I think 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: created this perfect storm. One, it was the NFC Championship Game. 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: Certainly a lot of eyeballs on it. However, many millions 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: of people watched it, forty seven million, whatever the number was. 100 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: But afterwards there's no super Bowl right away, there's a 101 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: bye week. I think it was a slow week. I 102 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: don't mean to like throw media under the bus. Understand, 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: everybody's got a job to do. You and I have 104 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: a job to do. But the fact of the matter was, 105 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: I think it gave more people time to sort of 106 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: just let it marinade and probably sat a little too long. 107 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: And that's the narrative. You've got too. You and I 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: have said this. I know I've written this an insider inbox. 109 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: When people talking absolutes, I am the number one advocate 110 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: against absolutes because the problem is, in our society, everybody 111 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: wants to guarantee if I get hired somewhere, I want 112 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to have a guarantee that I'm going to be there 113 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: for the next twenty years. That would be a great 114 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that though. Always people want a 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: declarative statement that, Okay, if we signed player X, that 116 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: means we're winning the Super Bowl next year. There's no guarantees. 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: And the problem is is we as a society, I think, 118 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: as human beings, always want to gravitate we want to 119 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: grip absolutes, and Aaron Rodgers is not going to offer 120 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: you those. He doesn't paint himself into a box with 121 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: his words because he knows how quickly things can change. 122 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: He's seen it here in Green Bay in recent years, 123 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: and over the last thirteen years as a starting quarterback. 124 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: The situation changes in the National Football League. The last 125 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: time I checked, Curly Lambo still isn't playing the game today. 126 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: It evolves. There's new players, there's new coaches and and 127 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been a part of one of the 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: greatest runs in NFL history here, but he understands there's 129 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna be an end game for him too. What he 130 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: does know is what's staring him directly in the face, 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: and it's the same process he goes through every year, 132 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: talking with management, being able to step away from the 133 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: game a little bit, clearing his head. You gotta also 134 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: remember my third point to all this was, these guys 135 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: just got done playing football in a practical, practically a 136 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: vacuum for six months. We tested for the first time 137 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: in COVID on July. Mike, today's February second. It's been 138 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: a long time. There's a lot of emotions that go 139 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: into the season and then there was a lot of 140 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: disappointment to after that game. So I think Aaron Rodgers 141 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: really laid it all there. I'm glad he did the 142 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: appearance with McAfee. I know he kind of seemed like 143 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: he was kind of having fun with him there, that 144 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't kind of playing it off like he wasn't 145 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna do it. But at the end of the day, 146 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: he expected to be back for next season, so no 147 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: reason why he wouldn't be back, And Brian Goodakinsten Matt 148 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: Lafleur put their words behind that. Yeah, I think it's 149 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: interesting when you when you the discussion that you bring 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: up here with regard to the absolutes and guarantees and whatnot. 151 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: What we're facing here is that everybody wanted to say 152 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: last April, when the Packers drafted Jordan's Love in the 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: first round and traded up to selected him, everybody wanted 154 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: to say, well, that's a guarantee that Jordan's Love is 155 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: the next quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. I'm not saying, 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: and I think you and I talked about this at 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: the time, there isn't necessarily a guarantee of that either. 158 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Jordan's Love may never become the starting quarterback of the 159 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, and that may not be his fault whatsoever. 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Go back to what Aaron Rodgers said when he first 161 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: after the draft to face the media and was processing 162 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: what he called the reality that he doesn't necessarily control 163 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: whether or not he finishes his career in Green Bay 164 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: and he was just being realistic about that. But what 165 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: did he also say? That I can try to make 166 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: it really really hard for them to get rid of me, 167 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, And he reiterated on the McAfee show that 168 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: his leverage is how he plays. The control that Aaron 169 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: Rodgers has over the situation is if he continues to 170 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: play at an m v P level, why would the 171 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Packers move on? They are not going to necessarily move on. 172 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: He is going to do which he did this year 173 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to do moving forward. He's 174 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: going to make this decision about the future, about a 175 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: potential future for Jordan's Love in Green Bay as difficult 176 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: as possible on the decision makers with the Packers, because 177 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: if he keeps playing like this, you would be foolish 178 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: to move on from him. And if Jordan's Love never 179 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: becomes the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. From 180 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: the front office's point of view, I think that's okay 181 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: because that's gonna mean that Aaron Rodgers did everything that 182 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: they were hoping that he would do. And then Jordan 183 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: loves Future is the one that also has no guarantees 184 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: and absolute and I am I making sense there you are, Mike, 185 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: because the thing is is, Jordan's Love wasn't on a 186 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: one year contract. He's not going to become an unrestricted 187 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: free agent this Obviously, this guy is tied to the Packers. 188 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: He is contractually has an agreement with the Packers through 189 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty four that could be extended into 190 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty five with the fifth year option. That's 191 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: how this game works, or only three He's here for 192 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: a while, is my point. And Brian good Con said 193 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: something very interested. It was the first time I think 194 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: he's talked about this, was that if you look at 195 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: the lineage of what they did with Ron Wolf and 196 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: then it went into the Aaron Rodgers area, with the 197 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: exception of maybe a few years there with Doug Peterson, 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: although that's when they were sort of testing the waters 199 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: with Achille Smith. Then with Tim Couch, but for the 200 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: most part throughout Rogers, throughout Forest tenure, they had an 201 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: NFL starting caliber quarterback on the roster in addition to five. 202 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: They did it with Mark Brunell. They did it with 203 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Matthew Hasselbeck. They did it uh with with being able 204 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: to to you know, develop Aaron Brooks the way they did, 205 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: and then he ended up back with Mike McCarthy in 206 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: New Orleans. And they were so stocked at the position 207 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: they let a guy named Kurt Warner walk and go 208 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: into m v PS for somebody else. Just no, it's true. 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: And then when two thousand five came around, when I'm younger, 210 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: when I'm a little west hod it it is like 211 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: a long time between two thousand and two thousand five, 212 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: but it was only the span of five years. They 213 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: go and draft Aaron Rodgers and then he ends up 214 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: being the next guy. The success sort of far with 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the way that the way that Goodkins laid 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: this out, They're gonna keep looking for young quarterbacks because 217 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: they don't want to be caught with their pants down here. 218 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: And I wrote about this inn inbox. Mike, I don't 219 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: even know if you've got a chance to read this yet. 220 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: But people need to stop looking at the Jordan's Love 221 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: pick like the Packers just set a first round draft 222 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: pick on fire. He's an investment. He might end up 223 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: being an All Pro quarterback here, he might not. Either way, 224 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: he's not going to diminish his value. There is still 225 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: going to be a return that they could get, whether 226 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: it's on the field or if it's for future draft capital. 227 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: And as Brian Gooding has talked about, if it if 228 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: the time comes and they want to go find somebody 229 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: else and maybe take another guy, he put that precondition 230 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: out there already because you need to have somebody else ready. 231 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: And this will be the last point I make on this. 232 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Some people talk about the Indianapolis thing being the right 233 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: way to do it. Peyton Manning was the guy two 234 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: thousand eleven, the neck injury happens, they go to and 235 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: fourteen and then they get Andrew Luck. A lot of 236 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: people lost their jobs, Mike in that one year gap 237 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: between Manning to Luck. Yeah, the Colts were able to 238 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: find another franchise quarterback who unfortunately his career was shortened 239 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: by injuries. But the GM was out, the head coach 240 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: was out. That was an implosion of an organization. I 241 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: think if we're really being honest with ourselves, we would 242 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: agree that the Colts still haven't found their footing over 243 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: the last nine years. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think as 244 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: we move forward here, if Rogers continues to play at 245 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: this level with the mastery of Matt Lafleur's offense that 246 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: he showed in the second season and in winning what 247 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 1: I believe he's going to obviously win the m v P. 248 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: When it's announced at the end of this week that 249 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna start to probably hear more comparisons to the 250 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo situation with New England Patriots. And I like 251 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: what you said about about the investment there, not only 252 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: because yeah, there'll be a lot of uns certainty about 253 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Jordan's love's future. As I brought up before, there aren't 254 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: gonna be any guarantees with his future one way or another. 255 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: But there was a year in there where the New 256 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: England Patriots won a Super Bowl but Jimmy Garoppolo had 257 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: to start four games because Tom Brady was suspended, and 258 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: he chalked up some wins for the New England Patriots 259 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: that set them on the path to what became a 260 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship. Now, I don't expect Aaron Rodgers to 261 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: get suspended anytime soon, but there is a chance obviously 262 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: that he could get injured and miss some games. And 263 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: maybe that's you know, Brian goodakun stand this Packers franchise. 264 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: They want to be ready for whatever whatever possibilities, whatever 265 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: eventualities come about, and they don't want a season to 266 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: be completely derailed because Aaron Rodgers might have to miss 267 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: two or three or five games. And that's that's where 268 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: the that's where the investment right now appears to be 269 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: in Jordan's love and they want to continue to develop 270 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: him and they want the quarterback position to be to 271 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: be stocked like it was in the Brett Farber Now, 272 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Brett Farve never missed a start, right, I mean he 273 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: started every game. Um, we've seen Aaron Rodgers missed some 274 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: time with injuries, and the Packers don't want to get 275 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: don't want to get caught where a limited term injury 276 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: completely throws a season off the rails because they don't 277 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: have a quarterback who can go out and win football games. 278 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: That's kind of where they're sitting right now. If you 279 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: are a Packers fan who watched two thousand thirteen play 280 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: out and think it's not a good plan to have 281 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback and waiting that that's the one, that's the 282 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: one litmus test that you need to go back and 283 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: think of. It didn't work out with b. J. Coleman 284 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: and Graham Harrold, so they signed Seneca Wallace at the 285 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: start of the season after Seneca had not played in 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. He ends up getting hurt. They do 287 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: bring in Scott Tolzine, but he was signed at the 288 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: last minute off of coming out of his time in 289 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: San Diego, I believe, or maybe with the Fort Afferent 290 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Point San Francisco. They had to basically prey a that 291 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills cut Matt Flynn and he came on 292 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: the market for him with a background of their offense 293 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: to be able to keep the ship afloat enough so 294 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: Rogers could come back for one of the most storied 295 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: moments in his time as a starting quarterback, Instill. The 296 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: Packers win eight seven and one and ended up also 297 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: getting dispatched from the playoffs. You gotta have a plan, 298 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: and and this was the plan. You can agree with 299 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: the first round pick. You cannot agree with them using 300 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: a first round pick, but the Packers needed to find 301 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: answers at that position. And I think, if we're really 302 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: being honest with ourselves, Mike, for the first time and 303 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: maybe the last fifteen sixteen years, the Packers have the 304 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: best succession policy in place. If somebody think would happen 305 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: with Tim Boyle on this roster still who also could 306 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: be a future asset and then having Jordan's love. Yeah, absolutely, 307 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: uh quickly here West Serious x M NFL radio channel 308 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: eighty eight is the only radio outlet dedicated to the 309 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: National Football League seven days a week, three sixty five 310 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: days a year. All Right, what we said we would 311 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: move on to the issues with the code staff, so 312 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: we will do that. The Matt Lafleur has decided that 313 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: there will be both a new defensive coordinator and a 314 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: new special teams coordinator for for the Packers. Mike Petton 315 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: is not being brought back to coordinate the defense, and 316 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: Seawan Meninga also not brought back, and the decision on 317 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: special teams has already been made. Maurice Drayton, who was 318 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: the assistant coach and actually interviewed for the coordinator position 319 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: two years ago, and Matt Lafleur was first hired, uh 320 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: la Fleur putting all of his confidence into Mo Drayton 321 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: to get the Packers Special Teams back on track. Yeah, 322 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: if we're talking about Rodgers and you know, kind of 323 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: an emphatic answer that la Fleur and and good Aunts 324 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: gave towards his future. I don't think la Fleur could 325 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: have really built up Murray Straiton any better than he 326 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: did at his news conference on Monday. I mean, he 327 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: really put him over as an excellent communicator, a guy 328 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: with really high energy. Something I've heard around the building too. 329 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I've only interviewed Murray Straton once with was actually when 330 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: he got hired from Indianapolis and eighteen. But he's a 331 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: guy no around the building has commanded a lot of respect. 332 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: People really enjoy them. And certainly there is an enthusiasm 333 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: and energy that that Matt Lafleur is expecting him to 334 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: bring to the Special Teams unit. And I don't want 335 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: to put words in Matt Lafleur's mouth. I don't want to, 336 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, say that you know, mistakes remain anything, but 337 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: it did kind of sound like when he talked about 338 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: interviewing Drayton a few years ago, he wished he would 339 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: have known what he knows now about the guy. You 340 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: can just tell that that there's just something there that 341 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily that he didn't take that seriously last time 342 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: he interviewed him, but there's just more information that told 343 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: him not only is this guy the right fit for 344 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: our special teams unit, but if we don't jump on it, 345 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be organizing coordinating a special teams unit 346 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL somewhere else. He has a great resume. 347 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: I think you look at his past history, it's fascinating. 348 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: I mean, he's coached everywhere around the world, let alone 349 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: just the National Football League. But his big end was 350 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: his time in Indianapolis. He interned there, he had it up, 351 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: catching on as their assistant, had two really strong years. 352 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: You can look at all the statistics that they had, 353 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: and then he came over as the assistant to Ron 354 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: Zook in two thousand and eighteen. So I know fans 355 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: sometimes they have to fight this thing well they're just 356 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: promoting from within. But I really do believe like this 357 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: is a positive new step for for Green Bay trying 358 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: to get things set up right. And and also, let's 359 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: be honest, Mike. With Drayton being able to be here 360 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons, I think he has a 361 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: really hands on thought. We haven't had a chance to 362 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: talk to him yet, but I have to imagine he 363 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: really has some for him to be able to impress 364 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: the floor to get the job. You'd have to imagine 365 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: that he has a note pad of of things they 366 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: need to do to get Special Teams back on track. Yeah, 367 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: I mean, and I under I understand the skepticism and 368 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: the questions from fans saying, hey, you know, the Special 369 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: Teams had a lot of issues this past year. You 370 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: decided to move on, But yet you're just promoting somebody 371 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: who was an assistant coach and was and was part 372 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: of those struggles. The way I look the way I 373 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: look at it is this Matt, Matt Lafleur is well 374 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: aware of that. He's well aware that of of the 375 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: outside perception and the fact that this could this could 376 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: look like a risky decision that you're just promoting somebody 377 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: from within who was a part of the struggles. I 378 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: think because he's making that decision, you have to look 379 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: at it as that is an indication of how much 380 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: confidence he has in Drayton that he can fix some 381 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: things and that he can get things going back in 382 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: the right direction, because the the easier thing to do, 383 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: from a public perception standpoint would be to just get 384 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: rid of everybody who is associated with the struggles and 385 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: completely start over. And the fact that Matt Lafleur is 386 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: not doing that and he understands the public perception and 387 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: the potential risk that goes along with that, I think 388 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: that just speaks to to how how much you know 389 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: the elevated level of confidence that he has in Drayton 390 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: and that he wants to He wants to let this 391 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: this experienced coach who hasn't been in a big position 392 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: of authority before, to to spread his wings and to 393 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: put his stamp on something. And that's the opportunity that 394 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: he's giving him. Now. It's a results based business, right, 395 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Maury Straiton is going to have to get 396 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things that went wrong last season squared 397 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: around on the on the Packers special teams. He's gonna 398 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: be judged by those results. But but I do think 399 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur's confidence in him speaks, uh speaks volumes because 400 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: of the perception of what this decision is and sometimes 401 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I think too we being on the outside, we sometimes 402 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: get a little too um bent out of shape about 403 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: what the past year indicated as far as statistics and 404 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: all these other things. When a new coaches is hired. 405 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example of that. You look 406 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: at Alex van Pelt, who is there as I believe 407 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach in Cincinnati. They had a rough year 408 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: a year ago, but yet he ends up getting promoted 409 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: to an offensive coordinator position this past year with Cleveland, 410 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: and then now here he is and the Browns are 411 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: able to be back in the playoffs and everything like that. 412 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes that stuff just happens. You know, you have to 413 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: be in the rights that suation, with the right players 414 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: in the right scheme. I I just you know, again, 415 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: I've covered enough special teams over the years to realize 416 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: when it's going well and when it's not going well, 417 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: and there is talent there. I think you look at J. K. 418 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: Scott and you see the leg talent that he has. 419 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Mason Crosby had another career season. I mean, there are 420 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: things to build off of. But for me, I just 421 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: think it gets back down to the basics. I've been 422 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: hitting this home all week long, getting your coverage units 423 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: short up, figuring out what your approach and philosophy is 424 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: going to be with the gunners. What are your jammers 425 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: doing to give your returner on punts a little bit 426 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: more time? Because yeah, punt returns weren't what they needed 427 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: to be, But did the punt returner have all the 428 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: opportunities to get the ball cleanly and step one two 429 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: yards up field? Those are all the things that dictate 430 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: whether or not you can eventually get those explosive plays 431 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: and everything else you're looking for. Yeah. Absolutely, well as 432 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: far as defensive coordinator is concerned, Matt Lafleur is from 433 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: what he said, certainly undergoing a very extensive search. It 434 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: sounds like he's going to be interviewing a lot of 435 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: different candidates. I don't think it's appropriate necessarily for us 436 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: to talk about those candidates if the Packers you don't 437 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about your application. Oh yeah, that's right. 438 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: I slipped that in there internal while I was trying 439 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: to take the weekend off. But uh um, But I 440 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: think what I want to focus on here initially is 441 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: is what Matt Lafleur said about this move at defensive 442 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: coordinator and what he's looking for, because he absolutely did 443 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: not talk about XS and os and scheme and this 444 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: and that with regard to um his vision for the 445 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: defense moving forward. He talked about He talked about a mentality. 446 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: He talked about a mindset. And he's not gonna get 447 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: hung up on whether these different coordinator candidates if they 448 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: want to focus on a three four or four three 449 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: or or you know too you know um cover two, 450 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: you know too deep safety. Look, I mean, he's not 451 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: he's not going to get into that. It's it's it's 452 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: about a it's about a mentality. There's a there's a 453 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: way that Matt Lafleur wants his defense to look out 454 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: on the field in a way that he wants them 455 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: to play, regardless of how they're doing the XS and 456 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: ohs part of it, and he just he he wants 457 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: to see that mentality not necessarily something that has to 458 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: develop over the course of sixteen games. He wants to 459 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: see it as as the mentality from day one of 460 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: the season and then you go from there. That's the 461 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: impression I got from his comments. It's the way you 462 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: coach it, the way you practice it, and ultimately what 463 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: the team looks like when you step on the field. 464 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned this a few times, Mike. I think Mike 465 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: Petton's tenure in Green Bay I view it as a success. 466 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: I think that he he had an important role here. 467 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Uh when you go back to the the off season, 468 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: the winter of two thousand eighteen, that was the only 469 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: thing that was really certain about the defense about the 470 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: team was what the defense was and in what that 471 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: vision was going to be. I do also believe that 472 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: at this point this might be the right time for 473 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: for Matt Lafleur to go this way. He's a guy 474 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: now that has won twenty six regular season games in 475 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: two seasons. He knows what it's like to be in 476 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: the head coaching seat. He understands all the decisions that 477 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: have to get made beyond what the call is on 478 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: first and ten from and for that reason, it probably 479 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: was time for him to get his defensive coordinator, get 480 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: a guy that that he either is familiar with or 481 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: someone that impresses him. Give him the opportunity now to 482 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: really complete the staff on his own way. And that's 483 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: why this is going to be interesting, because you know, 484 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, when they made the move from Don Caper's 485 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: the Petton You kind of had an idea. Okay, this 486 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: is what they're looking for, this is what the talent is. 487 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: How are they going to be able to promote it? 488 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: What is the next step going to be? I think 489 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, Petton did improve where the 490 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: Packers want to improve. They reduced the amount of explosive place. 491 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: They were better in a lot of different areas, particularly 492 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: the red zone. But now, how do you take a 493 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: defense that finished top ten ninth overall, has been up 494 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: there and scoring. How can you take the things that 495 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay has been doing well in accentuate that become 496 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: the dominant unit that they feel they can be because 497 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: Mike the allent's there. When you look at sa Darius 498 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: Smith back to back Pro Bowl seasons, I think Rashaan 499 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: Gary is going to be a really special player in 500 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: this league. They have to figure out some stuff with 501 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: the inside linebackers. But Adrian Amos and Darnell Savage, they're 502 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: right where the Packers need them to be. And I 503 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: don't even need to talk about JR. Alexander The guys probably, 504 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: if not already there in the conversation for the best 505 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: cornerback in the National Football League, and Kenny Clark's in 506 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: the fold long term to recently signed a multi year contract, 507 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: so he's gonna be around for a while as as 508 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: one of those lynch pins in the middle, another pro 509 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: bowler that they have. So the talent is there. It's 510 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out, Okay, what is our what 511 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: is our mindset going to be when we're on the field, 512 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's where whoever this individual is, however 513 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: they carry themselves, and I'm sure everything that people will 514 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: say about them, that they've worked with in their associates, 515 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to hear all of it and 516 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: and get a new feel for what this defense is 517 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: gonna look like. Yeah. Absolutely, well, at some point in 518 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: the coming days here. We don't know if it will 519 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: be in a couple of days, we don't know if 520 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: it will be a week or more, But some time 521 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: in the coming days there will be an announcement on 522 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator for the Packers, and it will 523 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: be an interesting story to follow through the off season 524 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: and into next season to see just what things look 525 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: like and how things potentially change with that. We're going 526 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: to call it a rap on this edition of Packers 527 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: on script and be sure to continue following all of 528 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team on packers dot com. For West, 529 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See you next time.