1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: listening to popping off. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 3: I know we were only supposed to watch, you know, 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 3: one episode at a time, but couldn't couldn't. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Can't stop, won't stop, had to watch all eight. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I had. I watched them all binge right through. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: It couldn't stop. So but you know, let me just 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: say this at first, and let me ask your opinion 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: on this. Do you feel as if maybe the premise 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: of the show was a little bit of a bait 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: and switch, because ultimately it's not really about the swinging part, 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: but I feel like that was the advertised to get 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: people to drop people in. 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's I mean, I think the main 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: point of why this show is working. And I'm I 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: saw this somewhere on the world wide Web, so I'm 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: not fully coming up with this opinion on my own, 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: but I so just giving credit to where credits do. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: I read it, And I was like, oh my gosh, 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: this resonated with me. Is when you go to think 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 3: about any other reality television show, Yes, it's people maybe 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: put together for certain reasons, or people knowing each other, 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: in advance and then they're bringing on friends or whatever. 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: But this is a group of women who joined something 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: mom Talk solely because of how many followers they all 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: had to continue to create clout, So none of them 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: actually really give two shits about the other people. They 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: just care about building themselves up, so nobody really cares 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: about Uh. 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Please, please God make me the biggest star. Yeah, I 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: mean wait, I think before every time we do a podcast, 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe we should do that. Please God, 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: make us the biggest podcast ever. 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: Please God make sure that this is. 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: You put it into the doctrine that we have the 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: following things. 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: But I yes, do. 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: I think we thought we were going to get more 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: on the swinging a million percent. But I think the 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: problem is is that the original women that were involved 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: allegedly in the swinging are not on this show. Like 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: when you even go to Jennifer afflex posts and you 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: see like them auditioning her to be the next girl 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: on mon Talk, it's because the original parties are no 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: longer there. 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: They're divorced. 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: They're the only like I mean, yes, we see sometimes 49 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: Demi or Whitney or even Layla and Macy in the 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: original mom Talk. 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: Videos, but Taylor is really the OG. She's the OG 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: of the SLC. 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: The OG of the SLC. That's good, But do you 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: think I just feel like like Hulu maybe just did 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bait and switch. I'm not 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: saying that the show didn't live up to expectations, because 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: clearly we loved it, We binged it, we watched all 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: eight episodes at once. I just think maybe there was 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bait and switch where people 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: were tuning in thinking they're going to get one thing 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: and then they just got something totally different. Like I 62 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: think the swinging scandal is what gets people to click 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: on it and watch. But they stay because it's. 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: Good, because they stay because it's good. 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: And I think, as you know, clearly it's number one 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: show on Hulu, so I feel like it's definitely, as 67 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: you pointed out, going to get picked up again. So 68 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: I think we will start to delve more into their 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: personal relationships, and you know, without giving things away, if 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: you haven't mentioned the entire season, and since we're solely 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: talking about episode two, you know, we're not gonna, you know, 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: throw away that some of the conversations that were had 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: at the end of the season, but we start digging 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: into their personal relationships and their marriages and their life 75 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: as the season progresses. So I wouldn't be surprised if 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: they pick up filming soon and just keep it going. 77 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: But before we even get into episode two, I want 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: to kind of give everybody an idea of what we're 79 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: working with on each one of the ladies social media followings. Okay, 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: So we've got Taylor, who you know, the og who 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: was the original one that outed the swinging scandal on TikTok. 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: She has four point two million followers on Instagram. She 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: has four hundred and sixty four thousand followers. Uh. Then 84 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: we've got Mikayla, who we already had on the pod 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 3: and I wish we had been able to watch watch 86 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: I know. 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: That was I was thinking that too. I had so 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: much like, damn, why couldn't we have watched all eight 89 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: episodes and then interviewed her because we just, you know, 90 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: we interviewed her before we knew we didn't Yeah, exactly 91 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know. So Michayla, please come back. 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Lots of questions, Mikayla, please come back. 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: But I was shocked to find out that Mikayla is 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: the second most on TikTok. She's two point five million 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: on Instagram, She's two hundred and eighty two thousand and 96 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: Something that we never really see on this show, which 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: is something she gets a lot of traction for on 98 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: her TikTok, is that she has chronic She has a 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: chronic condition with ezema that she really struggles with and 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: she's been unable to she was unable to leave her 101 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: house for a certain amount of times, like you see 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: her flare ups. 103 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: We don't see any of that on the show. 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: Well, but well, she talks about it a little bit. 105 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: There is like a reference. There was a reference to it. 106 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: And I do notice that there's a lot of times 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: when she doesn't have any makeup on. You know, the 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: other girls are all glammed out and she doesn't have 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: any makeup. But clearly it's because she's having a flare up, 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's probably she doesn't want to put 111 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: any makeup on. But I give her, I give her 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot of props, a lot of credit for just filming, 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, with a exema flare up and no makeup on. 114 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: A lot of housewives wouldn't do that. 115 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: No, then we have macy uh TikTok one point four 116 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: million Instagram one hundred and eighty thousand. She, I guess, 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: for lack of a better words, is kind of the 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: voice of reason of this group. 119 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: I guess she's the bridge. 120 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: She's the bridge. Yeah, that's a better way to put it. 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: She's the bridge. The storyline we never hear about from 122 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: her on this season that I learned through TikTok, which 123 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: I would have appreciated knowing while I was watching the show, 124 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: was that her first baby daddy, the one that she 125 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: got pregnant with when she was at BYU, and her 126 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: like year of being you know, I forget the word, 127 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: but like excommunicated from the church or whatever it was. 128 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: He died, Yeah, texting her in a car accident. I 129 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: can't believe there there's no mention of that on the show. 130 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much more shit that we could 131 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: have dug they could have dug into. 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: I was honestly flattery acid if if that's the correct word. 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: That it did not come up on the show because 134 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: I didn't learn about until I saw a TikTok she made. 135 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Did you send me that TikTok? Somebody sent me away. 136 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: We've been sending Emily and I have a full time 137 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: job of sending each other tiktoks. 138 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, here's the more, here's the more. 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: Oh shit, but I forgot going back to Mikaela. 140 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: Something else that's clearly not talked about throughout the season 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: is that she, yes, she got pregnant at sixteen, but 142 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: her husband he was at twenty two, I believe, So 143 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: that is another situation they don't really delve into on 144 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: the show. 145 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: Then we've got Whitney. 146 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: She has two million followers on TikTok. Instagram, she has 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy four thousand. I've seen a lot 148 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: of I mean, she's considered the villain of the season. 149 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: A lot of what she does is kind of absurd 150 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: to me, and even watching her tiktoks, but a big 151 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: portion of what I guess online is saying. But what 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: we haven't heard is that her husband, yes, he had 153 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: a porn addiction allegedly, but he dealt with all of 154 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: these issues growing up, and a big part of her 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: discussions have been about why she felt the need to 156 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: stay with him to support him through his childhood abuse. 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: So there's that. So We've got Whitney, then we have Jesse. 158 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: She has on TikTok not that great compared to the others. 159 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: Two hundred and sixty one thousand on TikTok Instagram, one 160 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety three thousand. She's been in the Tiktoks 161 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: for a while, but I'm kind of wondering if they 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: brought her in solely because they wanted her to do 163 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: her extensions. 164 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: They were like, eh, I mean, she doesn't have that 165 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: big of a following, but she does do extensions, so God, 166 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: she does do extensions. 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: We know that she is divorced, she's married again. They're 168 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: the probably the least Mormon of the group at this point, 169 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: and there's allegations of why she got a divorce that 170 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: does actually play it on the show. 171 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: But that's all I really know about her. But then 172 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: we get to me, to me, to me, who by 173 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: the way, to me, I like, okay, let me just 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: say this. I'm just gonna say this, and it might 175 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: be an unpopular opinion. Taylor does not give me main 176 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: character energy to me, does Taylor? I think we have 177 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: to remember is pregnant. That is true. I'm going to 178 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: give her a pass because she's pregnant and I and 179 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure she was dealing with that and she wasn't 180 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: feeling great. But to me, de Me was main character energy, 181 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: Like she was like like I felt like she was 182 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: more of what everybody is always fighting for, Queen Bee 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: of this group. 184 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she was so excited when they said 185 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: that maybe she should take over the Queen Bee. 186 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: I think Taylor's gonna. 187 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: Come and I mean, I we'll get into that in 188 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: a second, but hold on four hundred and fifty thousand 189 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: point six on TikTok Instagram's one hundred and seventy five thousand. 190 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: Her backstory that we didn't get to hear about was 191 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: the man that she is married to. Not only did 192 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: that affair happen, her husband was married to Angie Harrington. 193 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 3: So Angie Harrington is the girl who was a friend 194 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 3: of on Salt Lake City who to me kind of 195 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: looks like Sarah Paulson. 196 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: That yeah, well one season, right, one season she was 197 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: a one season friend. 198 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was a redhead. I think she came in 199 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: as Heather Gay's friend and then they had a falling out. 200 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: She had a new husband that was and like created 201 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: fake instagrams and shit like that. 202 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: But the other part. 203 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: That I didn't know, who knows if this is really true, 204 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: but I saw it on the on the talk on 205 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: the TikTok was that she met her husband to me, 206 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: met her husband when she was ten years old. 207 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: Okay, but what does that mean? I mean, what they 208 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: met at a birthday party or something. Probably they met 209 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: at the church at a church party. But they could 210 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: have met like innocently. It's not like he was trying 211 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: to date her when she was ten. 212 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: No, but still that is like bananas when you really 213 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: think about it, like, oh, we met when I was 214 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: ten and then. 215 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: And he was forty. 216 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even when they showed their kids ages, 217 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: you know. But they seem like a happy couple. They 218 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: seem really into each other. But I mean, what she 219 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: was ten and he was I think. 220 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Wait, is he the husband that they were speculating that 221 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: he has a two pay because it's always in a 222 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: different place. 223 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: The husband Whitney's husband, Oh, Whitney's husband. Oh yeah, no, 224 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: he's considered like the hot husband. 225 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: He is a hot husband. I think he used to 226 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: be a quarterback or something, right the NFL. Yeah, he 227 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: played in the NFL. Unclear unclear. No, I'm pretty sure 228 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: about that. 229 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: Oh well, I love it. Then we have Jennifer Hole, 230 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: who you know. I love that she's the only person 231 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: that gets a last name with her age next to 232 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: it every time they show it. 233 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Every time, it's like Jen Affleck and Jesse Yeah. 234 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: And Malayla and blah blah blah. 235 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: But then come to find out, not only do I 236 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: despise Jen Affleck's husband, but Jen Affleck's husband who is 237 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: the actual distant relative of Ben Affleck. 238 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: They've never met Ben Affleck. 239 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure they haven't. They're like second cousins twice removed, 240 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: and they in Utah, and they're devout Mormons. I doubt 241 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: that they're hanging out in the same circle. But then Jen. 242 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: Also shared on her TikTok that she was named after 243 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: Jennifer Lopez. Jennifer Lopez's name, I guess is Jennifer Lynn, 244 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: and so is this Jen. Her name is Jennifer Lynn. 245 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: So she is proud to say on her TikTok that 246 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: she is now the only Jennifer Lynn af f flack. 247 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: Then we've got Layla. She's at one hundred and fifteen 248 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: thousand on TikTok. 249 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Layela Laila, come on, get with the program. I'm surprised 250 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: they even let you around. 251 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: Layelah and then Instagram fifty four point five thousand. I 252 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: know the least amount about her, mainly because. 253 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: She didn't talk for the first seven episodes. 254 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: Because we haven't really gotten much of her. 255 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: But she is part of mom talk from the beginning, 256 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: like she I see her pregnant, I see it. So 257 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: she's she's been a part of this. But she's also 258 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: the youngest. But they all seem to pretty much like her. 259 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: But she's never had an orgasm. I mean, things have 260 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: been things have been a little rough for Layla, but 261 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: she's single now and ready to mingle. Yeah, do you 262 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: want to do you want to break down the husbands 263 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: before we get into this episode two, let's. 264 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: Break down the husband's all right, Dakota is a boyfriend, 265 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: not a husband of Ta. They have one child together, 266 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: ever true, as we see her pregnant on this season. 267 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: Dakota is a real estate agent and owns a tiling 268 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: company called Basin Tiling. 269 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: He also is allegedly a recovered addict, which I think 270 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: they said from ventanal. 271 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what it was. Yeah, that's why 272 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: he has such a problem with her drinking. I guess 273 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: was that the rationale. 274 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: I have to also say sometimes his eyes concerned me. 275 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm not like. 276 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: Saying you mean like they were a little little It's 277 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: this is a very toxic relationship. Very I am not 278 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: a doctor, but this relationship does not seem great. He 279 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: really wants to marry her. She does not want to. 280 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: At least she has learned a lot. Here's the thing 281 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: gotta say it. If I was going to pick a 282 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: friend from I mean, looking at her past, I never 283 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: would have thought Taylor would want to be one of 284 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: the people that had been like, that's the girl I 285 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: want to be friends with. 286 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's kind of one of my favorites. Okay, So 287 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: you mean, out of the cast, if you had to 288 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: hang out with one of them, you would pick Taylor. 289 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: I think Taylor and Demi. I would hang out with 290 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: Whitney because she's diabolical. Oh, like, I find her mind intriguing. 291 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: She's diabolical. 292 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: Well, now can you get into Connor please and explain. 293 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Yep. Connor is the husband to Whitney. Whitney and Connor 294 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: share two children together, Sedona and Liam, and she is 295 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: expecting her third child, Connor, works for Meta, which owns 296 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: and operates Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp, et cetera, which is right there. 297 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: They were actually building the building when I left Utah. 298 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: So he looks different in every episode. Just it's like 299 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: so like I feel like when they first walked into 300 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: the house, when they move back from why didn't he 301 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: have bleach blonde hair and it was long or something? 302 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: And then the next scene it wasn't long, and then 303 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: the next scene it wasn't blonde, And then and then 304 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: the next scene he didn't have a mustache, and then 305 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: the next one he did. 306 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Like he's in the witness protection program. 307 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: Like he is ever changing. 308 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: And listen, I know this is a touchy subject, especially 309 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: because you know your best friend gets a lot of 310 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: heat for this. 311 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: But Whitney's outfit choices a lot. 312 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: Are we talking about Gina? 313 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, okay, I I have Gina has way better style. 314 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: This Whitney has no style. She just finds saying that 315 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Gina has no style. I'm just saying, finds a frock. 316 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: A peasant frock, and puts it on and like and 317 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: super glues lace onto it or something. 318 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: He's giving like amish, Like once she said she wanted 319 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: to move it to the farm. Later episodes, I was like, 320 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, okay. But their other backstory is that 321 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: he was on tender. 322 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: That's why they moved to Hawaii. 323 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Apparently when things get rough with he makes these dramatic changes. 324 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: But then apparently she came back. 325 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: But she throughout this season, you see she thinks that 326 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: mom Talk will not actually be able to succeed without her. 327 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about the show. I'm talking about 328 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: the TikTok. But one thing Emily and I are both 329 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: very proud of. 330 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: Is what you're gonna say. 331 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, we both turned down that dil do. We did 332 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: post and Whitney did not. 333 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I just there there is just no 334 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: amount of money that I would do that. Shane even 335 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: asked me because he was watching that scene. He came 336 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: into the bedroom when I was watching it, and he goes, 337 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: is there any amount of money that you would do 338 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: that for? And I was like it would have to 339 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: be millions, Like there's this, I there's this. I can't 340 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: do that. 341 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: But also I want to check now that I've seen 342 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: all of their following numbers, like when they say twenty 343 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: thousand I'm wondering if they mean for multi old post 344 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: or like that's a one post TikTok that much more profitable, 345 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: profitable than Instagram. 346 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't have a TikTok. And 347 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: now I'm thinking, should I should I get my friends 348 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: together and make an old mom talk. 349 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: Let's let's get a Graham talk going? 350 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: Should I get like a golden golden talk started? 351 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: My gosh, Then we've got Zach Affleck. He's the husband 352 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: of jen They have two children, a daughter Nora a 353 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: son Lucas. In July, Jennifer announced on Instagram that Zach 354 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: was accepted into medical school. She is the breadwinner and 355 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 3: she is going to be paying for his med school 356 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 3: because he has gambled away the money allegedly that his 357 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: parents gave him for med school when his parents were 358 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: already doctors. Please, for the love of God, do not 359 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: let me go to this man as my physician. 360 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: And ten years from now when he has his license. 361 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: Next husband is Brett. He's a second husband to Demi. 362 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: He is forty six, she is twenty nine. They each 363 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: have children from previous relationships. Brett is currently a managing 364 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: partner at Armstrong consulting group. He was previously a quarterback 365 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: for the Oakland Raiders from three to five. I wonder 366 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: if that. 367 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: Means he was actually at the playing quarterback or he 368 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: was like the second string quarterback. 369 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, not that it really matters, but it does, 370 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: I mean it does. Yeah. 371 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: Then we've got Jordan, who is married to Jesse. Second 372 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: husband to Jesse. They share a blended family of three kids. 373 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: Jordan is a solar manager at Rise Energy. 374 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: That's I mean. I don't have a ton to say 375 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: about them, which is not great. Now. Not a lot 376 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: to say about Jacob either. I think I only saw 377 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: him pop up briefly. He's a second husband to Macy Neelye. Mason. 378 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Met Jacob while she was raising her son Hudson as 379 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: a single parent following the death of his father Eric. 380 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: They were married in twenty eighteen and share a daughter, Harlowe. 381 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: Jacob is a sales and finance consultant at AO two 382 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: Management in Utah. 383 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: And then we've got Jace, who's the husband to Mikayla Matthews. 384 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: Michala met Jace when she was sixteen. They have three 385 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: children together, Beckham, Haven and Tommy. Jace was employed as 386 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: a project manager at Waffle, Loove and Jah. However, michaela 387 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: revealed that he was fired due to this show's release. 388 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: I love that he's fired because of the show, but 389 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: not because he was twenty one when he got his 390 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: sixteen year old girlfriend pregnant. 391 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: No, that's fine, that's fine, that's acceptable. 392 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: Then Laylah Taylor, twenty three divorce shares two sons of 393 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 3: their ex husband. Taylor told Today that she and her 394 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: ex husband agreed that their sons would not appre appear 395 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: on screen in season one of the show. 396 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: Okay, can I say, can you imagine being twenty three 397 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: divorced and with two kids? What were you doing at 398 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: twenty three? I mean I was like just out of college, 399 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: still dumb, and. 400 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: I mean I think I was potentially at twenty four 401 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 3: getting my first divorce but no kids. 402 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: Like, can you imagine? Can you imagine to have been 403 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: getting divorced at that age and have two children? Yeah? 404 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 3: Because also in my first divorce, we had nothing Like 405 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: I had my neighbor do the divorce for me because 406 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: she like went to like one year of law school 407 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: and she was able to figure it out. 408 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: My first divorce I did myself because we had no 409 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: kids and no ascess. It was so easy. 410 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I think the only thing that we had 411 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: to separate was like some of our wedding gifts because 412 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: we made it over a year of being married. Yeah, 413 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: so then you don't have to return them. But there 414 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: was like our china. 415 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I think it gets it. 416 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: I was like, you can have the mugs, I'll take 417 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: the plates. 418 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Like, but that's why Shane and I don't get divorced now, 419 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: because it's just way too complicated. It's a lot of things. 420 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: It would be a lot, so we're just like that's 421 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: just too much. 422 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: Well, now we're on to episode two. It's eleven months 423 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: after Taylor's arrest. Taylor calls it the worst night of 424 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: her life. She was charged with aggravated assault and given 425 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: three years of probation, plus she is pregnant again after 426 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: being arrested. She and Dakota never actually broke up. They 427 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: both wanted this baby, even though she acknowledges it's not 428 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: the smartest decision. 429 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: Do you think? 430 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: So? 431 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: I have a question about LDS. Are you allowed to 432 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: be on birth control? 433 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? You are? I think you're wrong. No, I don't 434 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: think so, can you? 435 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: No? 436 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: I think it's isn't it. Yeah, I don't think you 437 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: can be on Shane. 438 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: I really don't think you can be on birth. I'm 439 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: gonna text him, text him and get back to me 440 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: on that. But like Taylor, clearly we're watching because of 441 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: you and you're not so smart decisions. But like, keep 442 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: on keeping on because it's we're enjoying it. 443 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: Google says, Okay. 444 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. Don't you find 445 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: it irresponsible that she got pregnant once, had a miscarriage, 446 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: but then got pregnant again even though she knows the 447 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: relationship isn't great, she doesn't want to marry him, and 448 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: she knows it's not a smart decision. 449 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: Well, I think what we're seeing here is clearly and 450 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: you know now I've gone back years and watched all 451 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: of her tiktoks with Tate, her first husband, and after 452 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: watching her relationship with her mother, I think she like 453 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: wants love, but there's so much guilt and anxiety and 454 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: all of these things surrounding the things that she's done 455 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: and how she feels about herself that in the moments 456 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: and oftentimes when you're in a very toxic relationship, the 457 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: good is so good, you think, oh, this is going 458 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: to be great, right, and then the bad is so bad. 459 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: It's like, there's no way you can imagine going another day. 460 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: That you're saying she got pregnant during one of those 461 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: good is good Yeah. 462 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the highs. Then Macey, Michaela, and Whitney 463 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: are together at a coffee slash tea shop. Whitney was 464 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 3: shocked to hear about Taylor's pregnancy, and Macy says Taylor 465 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: thinks with her vagina. They were all invited to Taylor's 466 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: baby shower, but Whitney wants to get back to what 467 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: mom talk was like before the scandal and arrests happened. Apparently, 468 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: brand deals have gone down since Taylor's arrest, and Macy 469 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: suggests that someone has to step up to keep the 470 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: group going. 471 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question when she talks about brand deals, 472 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: does that mean brand deals individually or do you think 473 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: they get group brand deals because they make so much 474 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: content together. Do they ever do brand deals as a group? 475 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm assuming they must. 476 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: I mean at least those jumps, those sweatsuits that they 477 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: all wear, because they have them in like every color 478 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: with their names on them. Yeah, while they're doing these dances. 479 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: It also like, as he launched these videos, I can't 480 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: even imagine if I was on mom Talk because I'd 481 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: be one of the bad dancer ones. 482 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: It would be in the back. 483 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: I would be like the Macy that's like in charge 484 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 3: of like just doing the heart like while the other 485 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: ones can like do all the moves and I'm like, 486 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: oh shit, but like some of them are quite good 487 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: at it. But Whitney's saying she wants it to be 488 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: back to the original mom Talk. I'm like, what was 489 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: the original mom Talk like before the scandal? 490 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do they just they just made content together, right, 491 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: like fun? 492 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 3: It's supposedly women empowerment, but like at this point, we're 493 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: not seeing many women empowered other than empowered to pay 494 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: for their husbands. 495 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know if that's true though. When 496 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: they say they're all the they all raise their hands 497 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: when they said who's the breadwinner? So you're gonna tell 498 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: me that Brett, the guy that's like a consultant or whatever, 499 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: Like she's making more money than he does. 500 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: Probably, and I mean Brett's forty six, right, So that's 501 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 502 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: You've had a long time to get your act together. 503 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: But also, like Whitney, if this group didn't exist and 504 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 5: you want to get it back, then that would mean 505 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: no television show for you to bug us on, and 506 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 5: I would be so sad without that. 507 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: Then we see Taylor with her mom, Leanne. They're going 508 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 3: shopping for baby necessities. Leanne has a hard time talking 509 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: to her daughter about her probation, saying Taylor's aged her 510 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: ten years. Did Coda's bring up the idea of marriage frequently? 511 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: Taylor's not sure if she's ready for it. She doesn't 512 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: want to get hurt again, and in her confessional she 513 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: breaks down, saying she doesn't feel like she deserves the 514 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: happy ending that Dakota is trying to give her. I'm 515 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: sorry to tell you this, Taylor. He's not going to 516 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 3: give you a happy ending. 517 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: No, he doesn't have it, and I'm toxic tailor. 518 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: But also I feel like Taylor's saying, Mom, don't buy 519 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: me anything, because most likely I'm going to get it 520 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: all for free to promote on the tiktoks. So we 521 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 3: don't need to be buying this. We're going to promote 522 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: it on the top. So we'll talk. Let's not spend 523 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: the forty four dollars on the baby trash can. 524 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: Let me tell you my toxic trait is when I 525 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: watch this show, I think I'm the same age as 526 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: these women, and then I realize that I'm probably older 527 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: than Leanne. 528 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure we're older than Leanne. 529 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: Don't you watch it if you think like I feel 530 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: like I could just fit right into this group. 531 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, no, I am older than Leanne. 532 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: Well, I did send you a text message, and I 533 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: just prefaced it just so you guys know. I'm really 534 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: pissed to you, Emily, And she's like why, And I said, 535 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: because you have the opportunity by being married to Shane 536 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: who is LDS, to be on this show. And Emily 537 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: is like, you know what, You're right, like I do, 538 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: and I feel like I dropped this opportunity. 539 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: Neither of us pointing out that nobody forty eight. 540 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: I forgot about that part that I'm old enough to 541 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: be everyone's mother. 542 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: In the In this community, you'd be on your sixteenth 543 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: marriage forty four kid exactly. 544 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, Shane texted me about birth control. Do you 545 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: want to hear it? Yeah? Oh? Also, I have zero 546 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: TikTok followers. Okay, I asked him, can you be on 547 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: birth control if you're LDS? Shane said yes, that's a 548 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: private matter for married couples to decide themselves. The only 549 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: guidelines I've ever read on the church counseling about family 550 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: and having children is couples should have as many children 551 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: as they can provide for financially, emotionally, and spiritually, but 552 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: that it is a decision for the couples to make 553 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: themselves and not others. 554 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: So I have a question for you, just why we're 555 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: in the talk of LDS. How does the church feel 556 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: about the fact that you are not LDS. 557 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I never asked him. Should I write 558 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: a letter? 559 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: Or is there ever a moment that Shane in your 560 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: marriage was like, come give this a try. 561 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: No, I will tell you. I'll give you a little background. 562 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: Before Shane and I got married, there were two deal breakers. 563 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: The one the first one was I'll marry you, but 564 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: do you expect me to convert to LDS? And he 565 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: said no. And the other one was do you want 566 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: to have more kids? Because I had no kid, I 567 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: had no children, And he said, yes, I want more kids. 568 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: So those were my two deal breakers. I've never been 569 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: pressured by Shane to convert. I go to church with 570 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: him occasionally sometimes I go a lot of times I don't. 571 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: But as far as the church, I do know when 572 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: we lived in Utah, the missionaries would always visit my 573 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: house because I was like the only non LDS person 574 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: probably in like one hundred mile radius, so they were 575 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: always at my house. 576 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: But do you think there's less pressure because Shane's parents. 577 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: Are not LDS. 578 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of what we're seeing as 579 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: these parties progress is that like these parents are putting 580 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: these pressure on these oh yeahs women like and because 581 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: he did that on his own. 582 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a different there is. I would say, 583 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: like when people say to me like, oh, your a 584 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: husband's in a cult or something like that, I'm like you, 585 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: my life is so normal. There is nothing weird about 586 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: anything in our life. And you're right, his parents aren't LDS. 587 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: His mom, if she was religious, would be Muslim. She 588 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: would be Muslim if she practiced a religion. And you know, 589 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: his dad is more of just like he's like very Buddhists, 590 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: you know, he's very zen. So I do think that 591 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: the LDS factor within our relationship is very small it's 592 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: basically just Shane and the kids go every once in 593 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: a while, and I go occasionally, so it's not a 594 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: huge part of our lives. 595 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: Right The mom Taught girls minus Taylor are filming content 596 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: at Macy's house. In this content video, they all pretend 597 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: to pray, Please Lord, make me the biggest star the 598 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: world has ever known. Jen Is remind the girls that 599 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: they need to make videos so they can pay the bills. 600 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: Then they all talk about the weirdest brand deals. You know, 601 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: it's twenty thousand to promote sex toys, but the Mormon 602 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: religion is very conservative, so it's a risk. And then 603 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: Layla and Demi are all for it. Macy doesn't think 604 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: they're paying her enough. Meanwhile, Jin says she would never 605 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: promote a sex brand. Jen, You'd never be allowed. Let's 606 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: be clear. 607 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't even step foot within, you know, anywhere 608 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: that has anything to do. Sorry, this is what happens 609 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: when I watch all eight episodes. 610 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: Well then, but by the way, speaking of Jin, can 611 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: you please fix that hair in the back of your 612 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: head right now that's sticking out? 613 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: Because did you notice? 614 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: Sorry? Jin, I was very confused because everybody is very 615 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: well quaffed this entire season, and unless Jin is doing 616 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: a TikTok video, we've got extension showing we've got we 617 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: barely got our hair washed. I'm like, she looks like 618 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: me on the freaking pod. I'm like, what is happening. 619 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: That's because she has to serve her husband at all times. 620 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: She doesn't have time, zero hair, just him sandwiches, and 621 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean she's she's. 622 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: Just paying bills, taking care of the kids and Zach, 623 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: and she doesn't have time for a shower. But you 624 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: notice that every time they're filming, and there are people, 625 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: there are housewives that do this too, when like I'd 626 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: be on Beverly Hills and I would come and I'd 627 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: be looking a mess. That are always like constantly like 628 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: touching your hair, like fixing your or being like that. 629 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: Like she is the least of like the conscious of 630 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: exactly what her appearance is, I think, which is refreshing, 631 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: which is actually being a mom, which is who we 632 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: all are. But I love that they're all noticing it 633 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: the entire time. But I am calling bullshit on twenty 634 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: thousand dollars post on Insta when you have two hundred 635 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: and seventy four thousand followers. 636 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: Did you look at her Instagram and see did she 637 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: posts anything about sex toy? She she did. It's there, 638 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: it's there. So is. 639 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: One of her premiere dresses, the red with the cutouts 640 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: and the and on the swing with the h. 641 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: It was a lot. That was a lot. 642 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: That was one of my favorite outfits of the season. 643 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: And it wasn't even during it. Then Demi reminds the 644 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: girls that because there's such a lack of knowledge around sex, 645 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: a lot of women don't even have an orgasm. Laila 646 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: raises her hand immediately, saying she never has. She got 647 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 3: married at nineteen and was married for three years, so 648 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: she hasn't had time to discover herself. Laylah went to 649 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: high school that was heavily populated with Mormons, and she 650 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: was baptized at sixteen years old. And then everyone jokes 651 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: that Jen is a porn star for her husband. Macy 652 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: reminds her they've all seen the nudes. 653 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: Oh wait, Jen Jen Affleck. Yes, well maybe that's why 654 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: her hair is always a mess. Yeah, she's got I mean, 655 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: she doesn't have time. She's got to make him chicken 656 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: pie and sex with him. 657 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 2: Come and sending videos of herself. 658 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: Wait was the photo that she showed everybody and they 659 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: said that was like a frontal? Was that like a 660 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: vagina shot? 661 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm assuming it must be naked photos. Then Demi was 662 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: inspired by Jen's nudes, so she decided to take nudes 663 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: for her husband as well. Then she proceeds to show 664 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 3: them to the entire crew. 665 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh it was to me that had the photos that 666 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: they brought out and showed. 667 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: But also Demi's nude, this entire not nude, but she 668 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 3: has just her bra and ninety percent of like the episodes. 669 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: I know, I know she's like, oh, you guys are early, 670 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: but also I'm like, if you're going to show your 671 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: bra off, it shouldn't be a nude one all the time. 672 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: Like at least like getting stacy. 673 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, like get some sexy bras, like those are my bras? 674 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: Like my when you're not going to see what I 675 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: have on underneath bras? Those aren't my pull my shirt 676 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 3: down every time to get miked bras. Then Taylor's parents, 677 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: Leanne and Jeremy are visiting our house and Taylor breaks 678 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: the news that. 679 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: Dakota is moving in. 680 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: Uh and the church teaches that you should not live 681 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: with a partner outside of marriage, so her parents are 682 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: not supportive of this decision, the parents being more upset 683 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: about this man moving in than being pregnant. 684 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: Yes, I know, they're like, it's fine if you want 685 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: to have children together, but you can't live together. 686 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: But do you think it's because they don't want one? 687 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: They already know that they've been arrested, that she's been 688 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: arrested two. They know that most likely she's going to 689 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: be paying for their life. 690 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I we never. 691 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 3: Heard what Dakota does for a living until we got 692 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: on the pod today. But I am confused, Like, okay, baby, fine, 693 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: moving in? Absolutely not. 694 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's not living together before marriage. 695 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: Did you live with Shane before marriage? No, because we 696 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: got married like immediately. We just went to the courthouse 697 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,479 Speaker 1: and got married and then had a big wedding later. 698 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: Okay, I did live with Edwin before getting married, and 699 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: I do actually recommend living with your person before getting 700 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: married if you can. 701 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean I think we did, like briefly. It was 702 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: very brief because we got married really quickly. But we 703 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: just got married really quickly for tax purposes. He's not sure. 704 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: He's like, if I could file married and joint. It 705 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: would really save on taxes, so let's. 706 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: Figure this shit out. Then Dakota shows up while Leanne 707 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 3: and Jeremy are there. He starts bringing in his boxes, 708 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: and of course the parents don't offer to help, but 709 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: they let their pregnant daughter carry them in. Dakota's boxes 710 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: are labeled things like Dakota's cool shit and here I come. 711 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 3: Jeremy definitely doesn't take it easy on him. He calls 712 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: out Dakota for knocking up his daughter and moving in before. 713 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: Mary's he's a stepdad though, right, that's not her real dad, 714 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: that's her stepdad. I don't know if Leanne is still 715 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: married from the get No, I think that's the stepdad. 716 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then Taylor and Dakota say that their values 717 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 3: and plans really align with one another, and I'm very 718 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: confused by this. 719 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: Was it values that threw you off? Yeah? 720 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 3: The values and then for example they both want to 721 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 3: marry someone LDS so they could go to church and 722 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 3: raise their family with those values. But to me, Dakota 723 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 3: moving in with one simple box is full of red flags. 724 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 3: Like it just makes me love this show. But like 725 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 3: he didn't even need he didn't even need a moving. 726 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 3: Vanni just had like his four boxes that he probably 727 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 3: brought from Jenna's house or whatever. 728 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, I just need to get buy a 729 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: box of shit, of cool shit from your house and 730 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: move it over to Taylor's, which is. 731 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: Like his fortnight. 732 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, his rooms cube. 733 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 2: A couple fenties. Yeah, include going, he's. 734 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 4: Got a hoodie, a pair of pants, a room excube, 735 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: and his PlayStations. 736 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 3: Then Macey and Taylor are shopping for Taylor's upcoming baby shower. 737 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: Taylor admits she's afraid to see all the girls again. 738 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 3: Macy gives her some reassurance, saying she wanted to reach 739 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 3: out to Taylor more than ever after the rest and 740 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: Macy's concerned that Dakota never takes accountability for his actions. 741 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 3: She witnessed Dakota called Taylor and effing slut. When her 742 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: ex husband showed up to an event where the girls 743 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: were at two weeks before Taylor got pregnant. She called Macy, 744 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 3: telling her she wanted out of the relationship. 745 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: Pretty much. 746 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: Macy just flat out tells Taylor that she does not 747 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: like Dakota. 748 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: You know what, neither do I. 749 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 3: And then, although a Taylor appreciates Macy's blutoness. 750 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: It's hard for her to hear and accept this. 751 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 3: Then Whitney at her mom's house with her younger sister Lexi. 752 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 3: They get into the vibrater conversation and then they get 753 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: into the sex talk where the mom kind of like 754 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 3: where she shares her first sexual experience as a horror movie. 755 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: I was like, well, it's because your husband doesn't want 756 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 3: to be having sex. 757 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: Exactly as to be the bearer of bad news. He 758 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: has a Jason mask on. 759 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 2: But they didn't have sex, said in high school. But 760 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: you know what, neither. 761 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: Did I no sex I did, I mean not that 762 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 3: I can remember. 763 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if we did, it was like a one 764 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: off class. 765 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: But like I still knew that there was like supposed 766 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: to be pleasure at some point. 767 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, when we lived in Utah, Shane's daughters 768 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: had there was an opportunity for sex ad at their school, 769 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: so I know they have it in the public schools 770 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: in Utah. 771 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: But you know, her mom says she feels guilty that 772 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 3: she didn't have those conversations. I don't know if she's guilty, 773 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 3: but she said, I wish I would have had more 774 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 3: of a conversation with you, And then it made me wonder, like, Whitney, 775 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 3: has your mom had an orgasm? She should ask maybe 776 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 3: if she used one of the vibrators from the gram. 777 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: Yes, she should give her mom a vibrator for Christmas. 778 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 3: But I also don't need to see Whitney's mom making 779 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 3: dry biscuits while Whitney's talking about promoting dil dos. 780 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 781 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: I don't need to see all the baking during No, No, No, 782 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 3: did you? 783 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: I didn't even really notice that she was baking. I mean. 784 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 3: No, I don't know if it's baking or making. I've 785 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 3: never made a biscuit. 786 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: I've never well, I did because it's on the episode 787 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: of Orange John either I saw there's some biscuit making. 788 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 3: Then we see Taylor and Dakota on a date. He 789 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 3: asked if Macey was talking shit when she saw her, 790 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 3: and she was, like she always does. He's convinced she 791 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 3: doesn't like him and it's just being petty about it. 792 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 3: Taylor defends Macy, saying she's the only one she's really 793 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: confided in. At this point, I'm still stuck whatever this 794 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 3: Macy situation is. Macy, I think is just trying to 795 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 3: be a good friend to Taylor. Then Whitney and Layla. 796 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Are in the salt cave. I've never heard of a 797 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: salt cave that was new to me. 798 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 3: Well with two children too, Yeah, I like how they 799 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: kept running around and like touching the alarms and stuff, 800 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 3: and Whitney was unaware. Whitney doesn't want to promote the 801 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 3: fake friendships are portraying online. But I'm like you already 802 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: that's actually what Mom Talk was, So. 803 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: Yes, and you want to and you want it to 804 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: be back to its original version, and you want to 805 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: be the queen Bee of it. So what are you 806 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. 807 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 3: And then Layla's confessional, she says this is typical Whitney. 808 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 3: She'll avoid someone she has tension with rather than talk 809 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: to them and solve it. 810 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Whitney. 811 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: Layla thinks it's important that everyone in Mom Talks stays 812 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 3: strong and united. But I do want to point out 813 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 3: that a lot of the tiktoks they show us in 814 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 3: between scenes have Macy in the middle. Yeah, Macy is 815 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: in the middle a lot. Yeah, Macy's in the middle. 816 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: Then it's the day of the Taylor's baby shower. All 817 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: the girls from Mom Talk besides Whitney show up. They 818 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,479 Speaker 3: seem really supportive of Taylor and would like to join 819 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 3: them and mom talk again. Macy's not a fan of Dakota. 820 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 3: We know Whitney didn't give Taylor a heads up that 821 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: she wasn't coming to the shower, and obviously Taylor noticed 822 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 3: she wasn't there. 823 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: You know who else noticed? Leanne just the best I know. 824 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: Wait, don't have my mom call you and you piss 825 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 2: me off about something. 826 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait either. That will be fun, Hi, Emily, 827 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: it's please have your dad call. 828 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 3: But then Whitney tells her it's a conversation she needs 829 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 3: to have with Taylor, not her, which we doubt ever 830 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 3: really happened. Right, but Taylor's mom immediately calling Whitney tells 831 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: me everything I need to know about why Taylor is 832 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 3: the way she is and why we see the things 833 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 3: that we say. 834 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: Leanne know. Leanne needs to do something about those hair extensions, Leanne, 835 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: They're they're they're giving like Alexis Bellino. Extensions is what 836 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: it's doing. It's like me, your hair, your real hair 837 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 1: isn't that long, but then you get twenty four inch 838 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: like extensions. 839 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 3: Leanne is as bummed as us that she's not a 840 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: part of mom Talk. 841 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: She's trying, she's given her best. 842 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well we loved it. It was a 843 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: little piece of heaven. Thank you so much mom Talk 844 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 3: for all of this enjoyment. Keep tuning in to Popping 845 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: Off or we will give you, guys, all of our 846 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: hot takes on all of these episodes and please watch. 847 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: Thanks guys for listening.