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Speaker 1: So on Monday, Trump was sworn in as the forty
Speaker 1: seventh President of the United States. I'm sure you've heard
Speaker 1: about it, coming the first president since Grover Cleveland to
Speaker 1: serve two non consecutive terms. Immediately after being sworn in,
Speaker 1: he signed a flory of executive orders and executive actions
Speaker 1: on everything from energy policy to DEI to immigration. He
Speaker 1: kind of flooded the finish line with enough stuff so
Speaker 1: that the media, Democrats, and the liberal nonprofits having to
Speaker 1: play ketchup. This is enormously important because you know, at
Speaker 1: some points, as there's so many executive orders coming at
Speaker 1: Democrats that they have to pick and choose which ones
Speaker 1: are they going to fight. I think that the most
Speaker 1: important one and the one that they are choosing to fight,
Speaker 1: and I guess quote the most quote unquote controversial executive
Speaker 1: order was on immigration to end birthrights citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: The executive order states, and it's important that you understand
Speaker 1: the language of the executive order. The executive order states,
Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment has always excluded from birthright citizenship persons
Speaker 1: who were born in the United States but not quote
Speaker 1: subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Consistent with this understanding, the
Speaker 1: Congress has further specified legislation that a person born in
Speaker 1: the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is
Speaker 1: a national and citizen of the United States, as Section
Speaker 1: eight fourteen oh one, generally nearing the Fourteenth Amendment. Among
Speaker 1: the categories of individuals born in the United States and
Speaker 1: not subject to the jurisdiction thereof of the village of
Speaker 1: the United States. Citizenship does not automatically extend to the
Speaker 1: person born in the United States when one, that person's
Speaker 1: mother was unlawfully present in the country and the father
Speaker 1: was not a citizen or a lawful permanent resident at
Speaker 1: the time of the person's birth, or two, when the
Speaker 1: person's mother's presence of the United States at the time
Speaker 1: of said person's birth was lawful but temporary. Such as
Speaker 1: not limited to visiting the United States under a visa
Speaker 1: waiver program or student visa or tourist visa. That says
Speaker 1: that not only does an illegal alien someone who is
Speaker 1: not lawfully present in the country does not automatically get
Speaker 1: birthright citizenship, but student visas and tourist visas do not
Speaker 1: get birthright citizenship. This is critically important because an entire
Speaker 1: industry has been created overseas all over the world to
Speaker 1: sit there and to get citizenship for non citizens. It
Speaker 1: is a multi billion dollar industry, as I'll describe further.
Speaker 1: Congressman Babin from Texas's thirty six congressional district has already
Speaker 1: tried to codify the executive order, and he's submitted a bill.
Speaker 1: It's unlikely to pass, but it would be very important
Speaker 1: if it came to a vote and all the Republicans
Speaker 1: and hopefully a few Democrats support it. Now, several Democratic
Speaker 1: attorney generals have already sued the term administration over the
Speaker 1: executive Order. They said that filing it is wrong because
Speaker 1: of denied citizenship, and in the court case. In the
Speaker 1: court case submitted by the State of Illinois, it says
Speaker 1: that it's wrong in part because just too many children
Speaker 1: are born to illegal or from illegal alien parents, and
Speaker 1: that would be problematic. In twenty twenty two, this is
Speaker 1: what the court, this is the Democratic defense for birthright citizenship.
Speaker 1: This is what it says. Nationally, in twenty twenty two alone,
Speaker 1: they were approximately two hundred and fifty five thousand births
Speaker 1: of citizen children to non citizen mothers without lawful status
Speaker 1: quote undocumented, and approximately one hundred and fifty three thousand
Speaker 1: births to two undocumented parents. My guess is the one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand difference between one hundred and two thousand difference
Speaker 1: between having just an undocumented mother and having undocumented two
Speaker 1: parents is that the one hundred thousand were coming in
Speaker 1: alone and have a husband back in another nation, that
Speaker 1: they were waiting for them for the baby born. Because
Speaker 1: once you're born, you get citizenship. You can then apply
Speaker 1: for a green card for your relatives. That is why
Speaker 1: it is an anchor baby. It is literally anchoring the
Speaker 1: entire family to the United States. But I want to
Speaker 1: think about the number for a second. This is the
Speaker 1: data point I want my listeners to remember. Two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty five thousand births from non citizen mothers is
Speaker 1: one in thirteen seven point five percent. For all my
Speaker 1: math nerds out there, one in thirteen children born in
Speaker 1: the United States have an illegal alien parent. That is
Speaker 1: getting a new Miami every two years. So five new
Speaker 1: miamis full of children to illegal alien parents every single decade.
Speaker 1: They once again will get the right to vote when
Speaker 1: they turn eighteen years old. They will get the right
Speaker 1: to sit there and five for different political policies. They
Speaker 1: will get the right of American welfare state. Everything from
Speaker 1: education and hospitalization to the prison system to the roads.
Speaker 1: I mean everything that the American welfare system pays for it.
Speaker 1: They will be entitled to a new Miami every two years. Now,
Speaker 1: this has become an entire cottage industry. As I said,
Speaker 1: it's called birth tourism. People there are overseas, there are agencies,
Speaker 1: and there are human smugglers who receive thousands, if not
Speaker 1: tens of thousands, upwards of fifty thousand dollars per woman
Speaker 1: to smuggle them in and nine months pregnant, get them
Speaker 1: into a hospital and they sure they have a baby.
Speaker 1: There's high destination cities for this New York City, Miami,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and the countries that are primarily not the
Speaker 1: only ones doing this, But the big countries where this
Speaker 1: is becoming cottage industry is Mexico, Nigeria, Russia, Turkey, South Korea,
Speaker 1: and China. China is a very big one. As of
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, women in China were paying travel agencies and
Speaker 1: human smugglers fifty thousand dollars to create a package where
Speaker 1: they we get a hotel, a flight, they get out
Speaker 1: tourist visa and get to the United States in one
Speaker 1: way or another in order to have a baby here
Speaker 1: and get citizenship. Now think about that there, and that
Speaker 1: year twenty fifteen there were ten thousand Chinese nationals who
Speaker 1: gave birth And do the math. Ten thousand, fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a person is a half a billion dollars from
Speaker 1: one country in one year. It's not bad scheddar when
Speaker 1: you think about it. We hope that this is not
Speaker 1: for any nefarious reasons. We all that these are just
Speaker 1: people sitting there and saying, hey, look those dumb Americans.
Speaker 1: They have a giant loophole in their immigration system that
Speaker 1: we can take advantage of and ultimately get into the
Speaker 1: US and get citizenship. We hope. We really don't know
Speaker 1: there is a specially large loophole in a territory called
Speaker 1: the North Mariana Islands, which is about seven thousand miles
Speaker 1: away from the for lower forty eight of the United States,
Speaker 1: and it's about three thousand miles away from mainland China,
Speaker 1: so it's squarely basically squarely in the Middle Pacific. It
Speaker 1: was a very important area during World War Two for
Speaker 1: any history bus out there, but it's become an important
Speaker 1: place for birth tourism in the United States state because
Speaker 1: it's a territory of the United States, every child born
Speaker 1: on the island is automatically an American citizen, right and
Speaker 1: the first child born in twenty twenty five, the child
Speaker 1: that made the newspapers, as you know, bringing in the
Speaker 1: new Year of just a few weeks ago, was from
Speaker 1: a thirty year old tourist from Shanghai, China. Is one
Speaker 1: of the thousands of children from Maine in China who
Speaker 1: are born on the island in the last decade. That
Speaker 1: is because in two thousand and nine, President Obama waived
Speaker 1: the visa requirement for Chinese nationals and Russian nationals to
Speaker 1: come to the island, so they can come. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: it was revoked for Russia, but not for China. So
Speaker 1: for a decade, Russians and Chinese were able to come
Speaker 1: to the North America Islands without a visa, completely unrestricted
Speaker 1: and have a child there. The number of children from
Speaker 1: China being born on the island increased from less than
Speaker 1: ten per year to over six hundred. Ninety five percent
Speaker 1: of all foreign born children on the island are Chinese nationals.
Speaker 1: The mothers or Chinese nationals, and there's no visa requirement,
Speaker 1: there's no flagging, there's one hospital has very much overwhelmed
Speaker 1: the system. There are now more Chinese nationals having children
Speaker 1: on the islands, and there are natives from the North
Speaker 1: Maria on the islands. I don't know what they're called
Speaker 1: North Marianna's or Mary. I don't know, I doe, but
Speaker 1: whatever whatever that is, there are more Chinese nationals than
Speaker 1: there are North marin arans. I simply I'm saying marin aarosauce.
Speaker 1: It's very problematic, but whatever that is, they are having
Speaker 1: more babies Chinese nationals. Has become so bad that certain
Speaker 1: members of Congress have sat there and waived this towards
Speaker 1: the Biden administration of the last four years to no avail.
Speaker 1: President Trump's executive order closes that loophole. President Trump single
Speaker 1: handedly is working to sit there and try and close
Speaker 1: that loophole along with all the others, through ending birth
Speaker 1: tourism and birthright citizenship for illegal aliens, non citizens via
Speaker 1: the holders tours. It's critical. It's critical to national security,
Speaker 1: it's critical to who we are as a country. It's
Speaker 1: critical to the idea. You fundamentally believe American citizenship is
Speaker 1: important and it is the greatest benefit you could have
Speaker 1: in this world. And that is how it's being treated
Speaker 1: by the cartels. That is how it should be treated
Speaker 1: by our government. Unfortunately, especially since Barack Obama was president
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, it is not. Obviously, birth
Speaker 1: tourism is a huge issue for the entire country. It
Speaker 1: is especially huge issue for the North Mariana Islands. And luckily,
Speaker 1: our guest this week has been one of the few
Speaker 1: members of Congress to be raising this issue time and
Speaker 1: time again. We're going to talk to Congressman Tom Tiffany
Speaker 1: Wisconsin next. He's been in Congrest twenty since twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and he's been one of the long voices in the wood. Though.
Speaker 1: Let's get the Congress and Tom Tiffany about the situation
Speaker 1: there about birth tourism, about Trump's executive order. Will be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages. My guest this week is
Speaker 1: Congressman Tom Tiffany, who represents the Wisconsin seventh congressional district
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty. He's been one of the few congressmen
Speaker 1: really raising the issue over the last few years. So
Speaker 1: thank you for being non congress from Tiffany. Ryan, it's
Speaker 1: good to join you. So, the policy of opening up
Speaker 1: the North Mariana Islands to the Chinese without a visa
Speaker 1: seems to be strange because it's in the middle of
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean. It's not like right next to China.
Speaker 1: They don't have a ton of I guess Chinese nationals
Speaker 1: who had lived there before we had taken it over,
Speaker 1: and they need to, you know, go there to see
Speaker 1: family members. It's a very strange policy, and I've already
Speaker 1: done a little bit of background from my audience. But
Speaker 1: tell me, is it just Chinese nationals who are moving
Speaker 1: there who just want an American citizenship or are Has
Speaker 1: any research been done on whether or not these are
Speaker 1: Chinese politicians, political families, military and military families is any
Speaker 1: of that known, whether or not they're getting American citizenship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really an unusual situation, but it highlights,
Speaker 2: you know, the many facets of our immigration system here
Speaker 2: in America. But this was set up as an Obama
Speaker 2: policy from two thousand and nine where they said you
Speaker 2: don't have to get a visa if you're a Chinese
Speaker 2: national or you're a Russian national to be able to
Speaker 2: come on to the Marianna Islands. And I think it
Speaker 2: was twenty nineteen when the loophole for the Russians was closed,
Speaker 2: not for the Chinese. In answer to your question, do
Speaker 2: we know if there's military members or others. I don't
Speaker 2: know the answer to that, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: the State Department has.
Speaker 1: Really looked seriously into it. So I'm not sure it's
Speaker 1: so odd that Obama picked Russia and China, considering he
Speaker 1: was so hawkish on especially Russia, a little bit of China.
Speaker 1: But the warning signs for both countries are there. It's
Speaker 1: not Mongolia, it's not a country we never talk about.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. The national security concern should be
Speaker 2: off the charts. Ryan when you think about okay, here
Speaker 2: it comes these Chinese nationals. They don't need a visa.
Speaker 2: They go to the Mariana Islands, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you have hundreds of babies being more in the
Speaker 2: native population, and yet they don't do anything to stop.
Speaker 2: It's really it's really odd, you know.
Speaker 1: I understand the number one from ten to six hundred
Speaker 1: over the course of a few years, ten China and
Speaker 1: he's nationally being born on the island to over six hundred.
Speaker 1: You've said during committee hearings, it's larger than the number
Speaker 1: of natives being born on the island. Let's say so
Speaker 1: a woman from China, as was the case, the first
Speaker 1: baby born in twenty twenty five was born was a
Speaker 1: Chinese national from Shanghai, thirty yeld Chinese national Shanghai. The
Speaker 1: baby gets gets citizenship obviously because she's having a baby
Speaker 1: in the American territory. Can then the baby and her
Speaker 1: moved to American mainland with no issues whatsoever.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know the answer to that question,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure that under how the Biden administration has
Speaker 2: interpreted immigration policy, I believe the answer to that is yes. Now,
Speaker 2: this is what President Trump is going to put a
Speaker 2: stop to. Is the birthright citizenship, and this is one
Speaker 2: of the best examples of it, where this child that
Speaker 2: was born first one of twenty twenty five, if this
Speaker 2: would have been in place, this child would no longer
Speaker 2: have citizenship in America.
Speaker 1: Right well, yeah, yeah, that would be extremely important to
Speaker 1: bring close to this loophole. When you and you've been
Speaker 1: in office since twenty twenty, when you brought this up
Speaker 1: to the Biden administration officials, what did they say? They
Speaker 1: ignored us? Really they yeah, they ignored us and just
Speaker 1: I mean there really was no response. They were just like,
Speaker 1: we can do this and go away. I mean that's
Speaker 1: basically what they did. I mean, it's like all other
Speaker 1: facets of immigration policy. They just swept it under the
Speaker 1: rug and said, yeah, we could do this. I mean
Speaker 1: we heard may Orcus say it so many times. There's
Speaker 1: not a problem at the porter. Don't worry, We've got
Speaker 1: it under control. I mean, they simply ignored us. What
Speaker 1: did your I mean, you have been unique in the
Speaker 1: Congress for raising awareness on this issue repeatedly. What have
Speaker 1: your do your Republican colleagues? Are they aware considering how
Speaker 1: hawkish we have become on China and we how away
Speaker 1: we are, especially since I don't know a little thing
Speaker 1: called COVID about China and how China acts and reacts
Speaker 1: towards things. Are your Republican colleagues aware of this, because
Speaker 1: I didn't know about this until I listened to your
Speaker 1: committee hearings, and I know that committee hearings aren't you know,
Speaker 1: don't have the same audience audiences like the Super Bowl does,
Speaker 1: so are they aware? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Virtually no one knew about this before we brought it
Speaker 2: up a few years ago. But we are driving some
Speaker 2: awareness because, as you've said, Ryan, we brought it up
Speaker 2: a few times in different contexts on the Judiciary Committee.
Speaker 2: And now with the issue of birthright citizenship being front
Speaker 2: and center, and you can bet it's going to stay
Speaker 2: front and center. This issue, the example of the Mariana Islands,
Speaker 2: is going to get much much more attention, and I
Speaker 2: think far more members of Congress are now going to know. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is one of the examples of why birthright citizen
Speaker 2: Ghyptian be happening. You're listening to it's a numbers game
Speaker 2: with Ryan Gerdusky. We'll be right back after this message.
Speaker 2: What have the natives of this island? Because island only
Speaker 2: has one hospital and I believe one airport. This is
Speaker 2: a perfect microcosm of the country as a whole where
Speaker 2: you've seen mass immigration overloading the infrastructure of a single place,
Speaker 2: especially a small place that I've read some articles in
Speaker 2: some local newspapers, But have the I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: delegate obviously for the North Marion Islands. Have they been
Speaker 2: concerned at all about the overwhelming number of people coming.
Speaker 2: It might be part of the reason you haven't heard
Speaker 2: much about it because the delegate was just changed in
Speaker 2: the last election. The previous one was a Democrat and
Speaker 2: he defended it. Now it is a Republican and she
Speaker 2: is saying, yes, there are real concerns here and we
Speaker 2: need to do something about it. So the delegate was
Speaker 2: unhelpful in regards to this prior to Jane. Now there
Speaker 2: is a your one of your colleagues, has colleagues from Texas,
Speaker 2: has offered a bill to make the end of birthright
Speaker 2: citizenship in legislation for illegal immigrants and trying to get
Speaker 2: some real hard legislation regardless of what the Supreme Court rules.
Speaker 2: I guess Supreme Court rules against Trump doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: Trying to get this in law so that way, if
Speaker 2: the next president comes and waves, the next Democratic president
Speaker 2: comes and waives the birthright citizenship rule that Trump's trying
Speaker 2: to put in, there will actually be some teeth to it.
Speaker 1: What is the reaction from the member your colleagues about
Speaker 1: Trump's executive order, Because when it comes to immigration, unlike
Speaker 1: some other issues, Republicans really run the gamut on policy.
Speaker 1: You have some very very very pro amnesty Republicans and
Speaker 1: some other Republicans who want to lock down the border.
Speaker 2: We're going to find out because Representative Babin just to
Speaker 2: introduce that as we're speaking here, Ryan, he just introduced
Speaker 2: it this morning. I was at the press conference, gave presentation,
Speaker 2: and so we are trying to put it in statuting.
Speaker 2: What you're referencing. Okay, this lasts for four years to
Speaker 2: the Trump administration. If we want this to be enduring,
Speaker 2: we need to get it in statute, and hopefully we
Speaker 2: are going to be able to do that. But I
Speaker 2: think this is going to be challenging the courts, and
Speaker 2: I think the left is taking a real risk here
Speaker 2: because when you read the language, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if you have or not, Brian, if you go back
Speaker 2: and look at the text from eighteen sixty eight when
Speaker 2: this was passed as a constitutional amendment. It was clearly
Speaker 2: a post slavery constitutional amendment that was put in place,
Speaker 2: and they were very clear in the language that they said,
Speaker 2: this does not apply to foreigners. That's the term they're
Speaker 2: used at the time. And I don't know how you
Speaker 2: could have a more apt description of a foreigner than
Speaker 2: somebody that's coming from that's a citizen outside the uni
Speaker 2: United States of America. And I think this Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: unless you know, Roberts goes all crazy on this, I
Speaker 2: don't see how the Supreme Court could rule any other
Speaker 2: way than that birthright citizenship is a figment of the
Speaker 2: left's imagination and the progressive courts of the last five decades.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's not even just foreigners. Native Americans
Speaker 1: didn't qualify, and that is in the original interpretation of
Speaker 1: the fourteen Amendment. But then again, the fourteenth Amendment has
Speaker 1: become this, you know, it's become this ever loving gobstopper
Speaker 1: from Charlie and the chocolate factor for the left of
Speaker 1: these are every kind of policy want. Well, it's just
Speaker 1: it's in the fourteen Amendment. You just have to keep
Speaker 1: looking it up until you find it. The interesting thing
Speaker 1: about the executive but for the executive order, is that
Speaker 1: I'm read in twenty twenty twenty to fifteen, China alone,
Speaker 1: the industry of birth tourism in just was a half
Speaker 1: a billion dollar a year industry among the world. And
Speaker 1: that was in twenty fifteen. The whole world, especially big
Speaker 1: countries that sent a lot of nine month pregnant women
Speaker 1: to the United States, Turkey, Brazil, Russia, China, obviously Mexico,
Speaker 1: it must be a multi billion dollar semi human smuggling enterprise.
Speaker 1: And once again we don't know. I mean, El Chapo's
Speaker 1: children were born in the United States. I believe I
Speaker 1: might be just missaying on it. I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: they American citizenship has been offered to definitely the children
Speaker 1: of foreign leaders or terrorist organization people were working in
Speaker 1: terrorist organizations. It's amazing that it's taken to this point
Speaker 1: for anyone to sit there and uh and and waive
Speaker 1: and have and have a moment of clarity for you know,
Speaker 1: for the Trump administration about this, and that they're still
Speaker 1: pushback at least on a national security aspect, which is
Speaker 1: one one of the few areas that there's some decent bipartisanship.
Speaker 2: Do you think Ryan that in highlights the how things
Speaker 2: have to get so bad sometimes in order for there
Speaker 2: to be reborn. And I think that's what's happened here.
Speaker 2: And people are finding out the many facets of illegal immigration.
Speaker 2: And it took a president as strong as Donald Trump
Speaker 2: is committed as Donald Trump to take action on something
Speaker 2: like this. Everybody would run in fear. Donald Trump does
Speaker 2: not run in fear from the left. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: proven that since he came down the escalator back in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. And it's taken somebody like him to take
Speaker 2: on these issues that have been turned on their head
Speaker 2: over the decades. As we talk about this was passed
Speaker 2: in eighteen sixty eight. It did not contemplate having people
Speaker 2: claiming birthright citizenship just because you had a child in America.
Speaker 2: But that's how it's been turned on its head here
Speaker 2: in the twentieth century, and it's finally gotten so bad
Speaker 2: that people are willing to take action. I would make
Speaker 2: one other point here. I said four years ago. I
Speaker 2: think it was in a judiciary hearing that the what
Speaker 2: has been going on through the Biden years is the
Speaker 2: largest human trafficking operation since slavery, and I was roundly
Speaker 2: chastised for saying that, wouldn't you agree that that's the truth?
Speaker 1: One? I think that I think that what is coming
Speaker 1: into question really is that the Left wants us to
Speaker 1: rethink the purpose of nationhood, Like why are we a country?
Speaker 1: What makes the country if we're just an idea? Right,
Speaker 1: If America is just an idea, like the left likes
Speaker 1: us that they're in, say, well, we can just email
Speaker 1: that idea around the world and then they could just
Speaker 1: make it their own country. No, we are an immensely
Speaker 1: prosperous place and immensely safe place if you look at
Speaker 1: like the world as large, because of the people who
Speaker 1: live here, and and the right of citizenship is the
Speaker 1: big the right to be an American citizen is the
Speaker 1: biggest privilege on this earth in my opinion. So to
Speaker 1: give it away so easily and to and to allow
Speaker 1: human traffickers, as you said, to just you know, create
Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar industry out of it, a black
Speaker 1: you know, black market industry, and to say nothing of
Speaker 1: it because it helps, I think feed the left. Bottom
Speaker 1: line on challenging the idea of nationhood is just so
Speaker 1: damning in my opinion, and so corrosive to their thought process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think your characterization is accurate. That I mean,
Speaker 2: they're they're giving away citizenship cheaply.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's it's like a it's like penny candy. And the
Speaker 2: Mariana Islands are a really good example of you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're just going to give these away. We're going to
Speaker 2: make a visa change administratively in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: And oh, this is one of the ramifications. Okay, no problem,
Speaker 2: Chinese nationals are coming in. Oh, the Chinese communist government
Speaker 2: might be our adversary. Huh, we really don't care. And
Speaker 2: if you want to know who understands the value of
Speaker 2: American citizenship, it's those cartels, right, Yeah, when they charged
Speaker 2: five ten thousand, we've heard as high as fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to some Chinese nationals coming across the Mexican border
Speaker 2: that they charge them. They know how much it's worth,
Speaker 2: don't they.
Speaker 1: Right? And you know, Congress, when I'm from New York City,
Speaker 1: my whole life. At the Roosevelt Hotel where they were
Speaker 1: having all the migrants, there was a ward for pregnant women.
Speaker 1: There was a huge thing. There was an increase in
Speaker 1: I read this from the CDC a few like a
Speaker 1: month or two ago. There was a fifty percent increase
Speaker 1: in the number of Venezuelan nationals having children in America
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four. When President
Speaker 1: Biden was flown buying them in on the one app
Speaker 1: they had this huge amount because they said, there's that
Speaker 1: this is our chance. It is oftentimes and maybe I'm
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. It
Speaker 1: is oftentimes the fact that foreign nationals and foreign cartels
Speaker 1: understand the laws better than Americans do. And I would
Speaker 1: honestly venture to be better than some members of Congress do.
Speaker 1: The President company excluded Congress on Tiffany.
Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't be surprised. El Chapo's kids who
Speaker 2: are probably American citizens while.
Speaker 1: We were talking. They were born in Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: then they returned to Mexico. So yes, they got the
Speaker 1: citizenship visa, the birthright citizenship for non citizens like and
Speaker 1: people know status here.
Speaker 2: El el Choppol may be a really bad guide, but
Speaker 2: he ain't dumb.
Speaker 1: Is he right? And according to the law that we
Speaker 1: have on the books, think like this to the listeners.
Speaker 1: El Chapo's children were born in Los Angeles, got American citizenship.
Speaker 1: They had no visa status to be here. They can
Speaker 1: if he ever gets out of jail, spot for him
Speaker 1: for citizenship and he can never be deported. I just
Speaker 1: but like, think about how ludicrous that whole in that
Speaker 1: system is. What is the defense from the left? Is
Speaker 1: it just that I think you said beforehand that Trump
Speaker 1: was the only willing to take this on the fear
Speaker 1: of being called a racist in America amongst Republicans is
Speaker 1: palpable or was previous to Donald Trump. I think that
Speaker 1: that fear is gone because they accused of being everything
Speaker 1: under the sun for ten years. Now do you what
Speaker 1: is the defense for the left? I mean, in the
Speaker 1: court case, in the court documents that this, I think
Speaker 1: it was Illinois put out the one of the lawsuits.
Speaker 1: They said, you can't do this because there's just too
Speaker 1: many children being born to non citizens. It's one in thirteen,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand a year. On the other
Speaker 1: side of the aisle, do you think there's any of
Speaker 1: your Democratic colleagues who see this as problematic?
Speaker 2: I think you see, you know how many people voted
Speaker 2: for voted for the Lake and Riley Act. There's probably
Speaker 2: about fifty something like that that voted for the Lake
Speaker 2: and Riley Act. On the Democrat side, they at least
Speaker 2: understand that, they at least understand there's political peril right,
Speaker 2: that their next election has become tougher if they don't vote.
Speaker 2: They understand at a minimum that. So I think there
Speaker 2: are some people that they on the Democrat side, but man,
Speaker 2: most of them this is this is a plank. This
Speaker 2: is a plank in their.
Speaker 1: Party platform.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the party platform. I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: plank in the platform. Much like transgenderism and other stuff
Speaker 2: like that. It is a plank in the platform at
Speaker 2: this point, and if you don't adhere to it, we
Speaker 2: are going to come and get you. And I hope, honestly,
Speaker 2: for the sake of the country, I wish they would
Speaker 2: change their ways. But for the sake of US Republicans
Speaker 2: winning elections, don't change your We'll go that way. And
Speaker 2: by the way, all people got to watch is you
Speaker 2: saw the new ranking member on Judiciary, Jamie Raskin. I mean,
Speaker 2: you couldn't get anybody more radical than Jamie Raskin to
Speaker 2: chair the Judiciary Committee. Where they forced Jerry Nadler out,
Speaker 2: And I mean that's a clear message that they are
Speaker 2: going to stay the course on this issue, that people
Speaker 2: should come in worry racing borders. They believe in globalism.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's who they are at this point.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's really ironic when you say Nadler
Speaker 1: as almost like a centrist, thoughtful person. That shows how
Speaker 1: far Congress has really moved. What can people do? What
Speaker 1: can constituents do to raise awareness about this? There is
Speaker 1: a bill, what's the name of the bill they can
Speaker 1: call their congressman is that they're in co sponsored. It
Speaker 1: would be great if they had one hundred percent of
Speaker 1: the Republican members and there's thirteen Democrats in Republican seats.
Speaker 1: They talked to my first episode podcast that what could
Speaker 1: they do to kind of galvanize Congress to really start
Speaker 1: moving on this issue.
Speaker 2: It's the Birthright Citizenship Act. So yes, they should contact
Speaker 2: their congressional representatives say tell them, hey, you need to
Speaker 2: sign on to this. But more broadly, we're going to
Speaker 2: probably take up a version of HR two, which you
Speaker 2: remember from last session, best Secure the Border bill that
Speaker 2: ever passed through a House of Congress. Died in the Senate.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a version of that. People have to
Speaker 2: stay after us. As you said earlier, there's people that
Speaker 2: get a little squeamish on this issue. You want me
Speaker 2: to Yeah, that's up to you. They need to stay
Speaker 2: after in regard to this. You know, November fifth, we
Speaker 2: elected Donald Trump and all the rest. We have majorities
Speaker 2: then majorities, but people have to stay after us. The
Speaker 2: fight is not over, and you got to stay after
Speaker 2: us Republicans to follow through on what you expected us
Speaker 2: to do when you voted on November fifth.
Speaker 1: Now, Congressman, you have been a leader on this issue.
Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow your information? Get I
Speaker 1: guess newsletters from you, emails from you guys, or just
Speaker 1: follow you on social media. They want to keep hearing
Speaker 1: about this issue, and honestly any border security issue, which
Speaker 1: you've been extremely good on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just go to at Rep. Tiffany. I got a
Speaker 2: great communications team that's always putting out good stuff, as
Speaker 2: you see, And just go to at Rep. Tiffany t
Speaker 2: I F F A N Y and you'll find us there.
Speaker 2: By the way, we also put out a weekly newsletter
Speaker 2: and it is one of the best that's out here
Speaker 2: in Congress. It's called the Tiffany Telegram, comes out every
Speaker 2: Friday in your email inbox. It's hard hitting, it's substantive.
Speaker 2: We don't just talk about Okay, it's maple syrup season
Speaker 2: in northern Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Though, that's maple syrup season Wisconsin. I don't know, is
Speaker 1: that a real thing.
Speaker 2: No, we had twenty five below. We got to get Okay,
Speaker 2: we're a few months now, we're a few months away
Speaker 2: from that, Ryan, But we really do put substantive stuff
Speaker 2: in that Tiffany Telegram. There you go for that, Go
Speaker 2: to my congressional website and you'll see the sign up
Speaker 2: on Great.
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Speaker 1: about this issue, and thank you for being on this podcast.
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