1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to this week's episode of A 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Numbers Game with Riyan Gerdoski. I appreciate everyone for listening 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: in and checking it out. As always, By the way, 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: I would like to ask you to sign up for 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: my national popular newsletter in that popnewsletter dot com to 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: get a third a free subscription for all the data 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: I am going to break down on this very special episode. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: So on Monday, Trump was sworn in as the forty 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: seventh President of the United States. I'm sure you've heard 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: about it, coming the first president since Grover Cleveland to 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: serve two non consecutive terms. Immediately after being sworn in, 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: he signed a flory of executive orders and executive actions 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: on everything from energy policy to DEI to immigration. He 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: kind of flooded the finish line with enough stuff so 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: that the media, Democrats, and the liberal nonprofits having to 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: play ketchup. This is enormously important because you know, at 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: some points, as there's so many executive orders coming at 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Democrats that they have to pick and choose which ones 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: are they going to fight. I think that the most 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: important one and the one that they are choosing to fight, 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: and I guess quote the most quote unquote controversial executive 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: order was on immigration to end birthrights citizenship for illegal immigrants. 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: The executive order states, and it's important that you understand 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: the language of the executive order. The executive order states, 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment has always excluded from birthright citizenship persons 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: who were born in the United States but not quote 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Consistent with this understanding, the 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: Congress has further specified legislation that a person born in 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: a national and citizen of the United States, as Section 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: eight fourteen oh one, generally nearing the Fourteenth Amendment. Among 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: the categories of individuals born in the United States and 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: not subject to the jurisdiction thereof of the village of 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: the United States. Citizenship does not automatically extend to the 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: person born in the United States when one, that person's 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: mother was unlawfully present in the country and the father 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: was not a citizen or a lawful permanent resident at 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: the time of the person's birth, or two, when the 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: person's mother's presence of the United States at the time 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: of said person's birth was lawful but temporary. Such as 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: not limited to visiting the United States under a visa 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: waiver program or student visa or tourist visa. That says 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: that not only does an illegal alien someone who is 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: not lawfully present in the country does not automatically get 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: birthright citizenship, but student visas and tourist visas do not 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: get birthright citizenship. This is critically important because an entire 47 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: industry has been created overseas all over the world to 48 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: sit there and to get citizenship for non citizens. It 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: is a multi billion dollar industry, as I'll describe further. 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: Congressman Babin from Texas's thirty six congressional district has already 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: tried to codify the executive order, and he's submitted a bill. 52 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: It's unlikely to pass, but it would be very important 53 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: if it came to a vote and all the Republicans 54 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully a few Democrats support it. Now, several Democratic 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: attorney generals have already sued the term administration over the 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: executive Order. They said that filing it is wrong because 57 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: of denied citizenship, and in the court case. In the 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: court case submitted by the State of Illinois, it says 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: that it's wrong in part because just too many children 60 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: are born to illegal or from illegal alien parents, and 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: that would be problematic. In twenty twenty two, this is 62 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: what the court, this is the Democratic defense for birthright citizenship. 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: This is what it says. Nationally, in twenty twenty two alone, 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: they were approximately two hundred and fifty five thousand births 65 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: of citizen children to non citizen mothers without lawful status 66 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: quote undocumented, and approximately one hundred and fifty three thousand 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: births to two undocumented parents. My guess is the one 68 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: hundred thousand difference between one hundred and two thousand difference 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: between having just an undocumented mother and having undocumented two 70 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: parents is that the one hundred thousand were coming in 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: alone and have a husband back in another nation, that 72 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: they were waiting for them for the baby born. Because 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: once you're born, you get citizenship. You can then apply 74 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: for a green card for your relatives. That is why 75 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: it is an anchor baby. It is literally anchoring the 76 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: entire family to the United States. But I want to 77 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: think about the number for a second. This is the 78 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: data point I want my listeners to remember. Two hundred 79 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: and fifty five thousand births from non citizen mothers is 80 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: one in thirteen seven point five percent. For all my 81 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: math nerds out there, one in thirteen children born in 82 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: the United States have an illegal alien parent. That is 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: getting a new Miami every two years. So five new 84 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: miamis full of children to illegal alien parents every single decade. 85 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: They once again will get the right to vote when 86 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: they turn eighteen years old. They will get the right 87 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: to sit there and five for different political policies. They 88 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: will get the right of American welfare state. Everything from 89 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: education and hospitalization to the prison system to the roads. 90 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean everything that the American welfare system pays for it. 91 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: They will be entitled to a new Miami every two years. Now, 92 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: this has become an entire cottage industry. As I said, 93 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: it's called birth tourism. People there are overseas, there are agencies, 94 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: and there are human smugglers who receive thousands, if not 95 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: tens of thousands, upwards of fifty thousand dollars per woman 96 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: to smuggle them in and nine months pregnant, get them 97 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: into a hospital and they sure they have a baby. 98 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: There's high destination cities for this New York City, Miami, 99 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and the countries that are primarily not the 100 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: only ones doing this, But the big countries where this 101 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: is becoming cottage industry is Mexico, Nigeria, Russia, Turkey, South Korea, 102 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: and China. China is a very big one. As of 103 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, women in China were paying travel agencies and 104 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: human smugglers fifty thousand dollars to create a package where 105 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: they we get a hotel, a flight, they get out 106 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: tourist visa and get to the United States in one 107 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: way or another in order to have a baby here 108 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: and get citizenship. Now think about that there, and that 109 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: year twenty fifteen there were ten thousand Chinese nationals who 110 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: gave birth And do the math. Ten thousand, fifty thousand 111 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: dollars a person is a half a billion dollars from 112 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: one country in one year. It's not bad scheddar when 113 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: you think about it. We hope that this is not 114 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: for any nefarious reasons. We all that these are just 115 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: people sitting there and saying, hey, look those dumb Americans. 116 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: They have a giant loophole in their immigration system that 117 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: we can take advantage of and ultimately get into the 118 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: US and get citizenship. We hope. We really don't know 119 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: there is a specially large loophole in a territory called 120 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: the North Mariana Islands, which is about seven thousand miles 121 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: away from the for lower forty eight of the United States, 122 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: and it's about three thousand miles away from mainland China, 123 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: so it's squarely basically squarely in the Middle Pacific. It 124 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: was a very important area during World War Two for 125 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: any history bus out there, but it's become an important 126 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: place for birth tourism in the United States state because 127 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: it's a territory of the United States, every child born 128 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: on the island is automatically an American citizen, right and 129 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: the first child born in twenty twenty five, the child 130 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: that made the newspapers, as you know, bringing in the 131 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: new Year of just a few weeks ago, was from 132 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: a thirty year old tourist from Shanghai, China. Is one 133 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: of the thousands of children from Maine in China who 134 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: are born on the island in the last decade. That 135 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: is because in two thousand and nine, President Obama waived 136 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the visa requirement for Chinese nationals and Russian nationals to 137 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: come to the island, so they can come. In twenty nineteen, 138 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: it was revoked for Russia, but not for China. So 139 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: for a decade, Russians and Chinese were able to come 140 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: to the North America Islands without a visa, completely unrestricted 141 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: and have a child there. The number of children from 142 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: China being born on the island increased from less than 143 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: ten per year to over six hundred. Ninety five percent 144 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: of all foreign born children on the island are Chinese nationals. 145 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: The mothers or Chinese nationals, and there's no visa requirement, 146 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: there's no flagging, there's one hospital has very much overwhelmed 147 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the system. There are now more Chinese nationals having children 148 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: on the islands, and there are natives from the North 149 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Maria on the islands. I don't know what they're called 150 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: North Marianna's or Mary. I don't know, I doe, but 151 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: whatever whatever that is, there are more Chinese nationals than 152 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: there are North marin arans. I simply I'm saying marin aarosauce. 153 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: It's very problematic, but whatever that is, they are having 154 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: more babies Chinese nationals. Has become so bad that certain 155 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: members of Congress have sat there and waived this towards 156 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: the Biden administration of the last four years to no avail. 157 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: President Trump's executive order closes that loophole. President Trump single 158 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: handedly is working to sit there and try and close 159 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: that loophole along with all the others, through ending birth 160 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: tourism and birthright citizenship for illegal aliens, non citizens via 161 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: the holders tours. It's critical. It's critical to national security, 162 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: it's critical to who we are as a country. It's 163 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: critical to the idea. You fundamentally believe American citizenship is 164 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: important and it is the greatest benefit you could have 165 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: in this world. And that is how it's being treated 166 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: by the cartels. That is how it should be treated 167 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: by our government. Unfortunately, especially since Barack Obama was president 168 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, it is not. Obviously, birth 169 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: tourism is a huge issue for the entire country. It 170 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: is especially huge issue for the North Mariana Islands. And luckily, 171 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: our guest this week has been one of the few 172 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: members of Congress to be raising this issue time and 173 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: time again. We're going to talk to Congressman Tom Tiffany 174 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Wisconsin next. He's been in Congrest twenty since twenty twenty, 175 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: and he's been one of the long voices in the wood. Though. 176 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Let's get the Congress and Tom Tiffany about the situation 177 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: there about birth tourism, about Trump's executive order. Will be 178 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: right back after these messages. My guest this week is 179 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Congressman Tom Tiffany, who represents the Wisconsin seventh congressional district 180 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty. He's been one of the few congressmen 181 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: really raising the issue over the last few years. So 182 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: thank you for being non congress from Tiffany. Ryan, it's 183 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: good to join you. So, the policy of opening up 184 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: the North Mariana Islands to the Chinese without a visa 185 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: seems to be strange because it's in the middle of 186 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean. It's not like right next to China. 187 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: They don't have a ton of I guess Chinese nationals 188 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: who had lived there before we had taken it over, 189 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: and they need to, you know, go there to see 190 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: family members. It's a very strange policy, and I've already 191 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: done a little bit of background from my audience. But 192 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: tell me, is it just Chinese nationals who are moving 193 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: there who just want an American citizenship or are Has 194 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: any research been done on whether or not these are 195 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: Chinese politicians, political families, military and military families is any 196 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,479 Speaker 1: of that known, whether or not they're getting American citizenship. 197 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really an unusual situation, but it highlights, 198 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, the many facets of our immigration system here 199 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: in America. But this was set up as an Obama 200 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: policy from two thousand and nine where they said you 201 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: don't have to get a visa if you're a Chinese 202 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: national or you're a Russian national to be able to 203 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: come on to the Marianna Islands. And I think it 204 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: was twenty nineteen when the loophole for the Russians was closed, 205 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: not for the Chinese. In answer to your question, do 206 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: we know if there's military members or others. I don't 207 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: know the answer to that, and I don't know if 208 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: the State Department has. 209 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Really looked seriously into it. So I'm not sure it's 210 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: so odd that Obama picked Russia and China, considering he 211 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: was so hawkish on especially Russia, a little bit of China. 212 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: But the warning signs for both countries are there. It's 213 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: not Mongolia, it's not a country we never talk about. 214 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. The national security concern should be 215 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: off the charts. Ryan when you think about okay, here 216 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: it comes these Chinese nationals. They don't need a visa. 217 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: They go to the Mariana Islands, and all of a 218 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: sudden you have hundreds of babies being more in the 219 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: native population, and yet they don't do anything to stop. 220 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: It's really it's really odd, you know. 221 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I understand the number one from ten to six hundred 222 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: over the course of a few years, ten China and 223 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: he's nationally being born on the island to over six hundred. 224 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: You've said during committee hearings, it's larger than the number 225 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: of natives being born on the island. Let's say so 226 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: a woman from China, as was the case, the first 227 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: baby born in twenty twenty five was born was a 228 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Chinese national from Shanghai, thirty yeld Chinese national Shanghai. The 229 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: baby gets gets citizenship obviously because she's having a baby 230 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: in the American territory. Can then the baby and her 231 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: moved to American mainland with no issues whatsoever. 232 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know the answer to that question, 233 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: but I'm sure that under how the Biden administration has 234 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: interpreted immigration policy, I believe the answer to that is yes. Now, 235 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: this is what President Trump is going to put a 236 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: stop to. Is the birthright citizenship, and this is one 237 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: of the best examples of it, where this child that 238 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: was born first one of twenty twenty five, if this 239 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 2: would have been in place, this child would no longer 240 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: have citizenship in America. 241 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: Right well, yeah, yeah, that would be extremely important to 242 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: bring close to this loophole. When you and you've been 243 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: in office since twenty twenty, when you brought this up 244 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: to the Biden administration officials, what did they say? They 245 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: ignored us? Really they yeah, they ignored us and just 246 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean there really was no response. They were just like, 247 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: we can do this and go away. I mean that's 248 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: basically what they did. I mean, it's like all other 249 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: facets of immigration policy. They just swept it under the 250 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: rug and said, yeah, we could do this. I mean 251 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: we heard may Orcus say it so many times. There's 252 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: not a problem at the porter. Don't worry, We've got 253 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: it under control. I mean, they simply ignored us. What 254 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: did your I mean, you have been unique in the 255 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Congress for raising awareness on this issue repeatedly. What have 256 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: your do your Republican colleagues? Are they aware considering how 257 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: hawkish we have become on China and we how away 258 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: we are, especially since I don't know a little thing 259 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: called COVID about China and how China acts and reacts 260 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: towards things. Are your Republican colleagues aware of this, because 261 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know about this until I listened to your 262 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: committee hearings, and I know that committee hearings aren't you know, 263 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: don't have the same audience audiences like the Super Bowl does, 264 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: so are they aware? Yeah? 265 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Virtually no one knew about this before we brought it 266 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: up a few years ago. But we are driving some 267 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: awareness because, as you've said, Ryan, we brought it up 268 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: a few times in different contexts on the Judiciary Committee. 269 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: And now with the issue of birthright citizenship being front 270 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: and center, and you can bet it's going to stay 271 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: front and center. This issue, the example of the Mariana Islands, 272 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: is going to get much much more attention, and I 273 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: think far more members of Congress are now going to know. Okay, 274 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: this is one of the examples of why birthright citizen 275 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: Ghyptian be happening. You're listening to it's a numbers game 276 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: with Ryan Gerdusky. We'll be right back after this message. 277 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: What have the natives of this island? Because island only 278 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: has one hospital and I believe one airport. This is 279 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: a perfect microcosm of the country as a whole where 280 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: you've seen mass immigration overloading the infrastructure of a single place, 281 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: especially a small place that I've read some articles in 282 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: some local newspapers, But have the I mean, there's a 283 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: delegate obviously for the North Marion Islands. Have they been 284 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: concerned at all about the overwhelming number of people coming. 285 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: It might be part of the reason you haven't heard 286 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: much about it because the delegate was just changed in 287 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: the last election. The previous one was a Democrat and 288 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: he defended it. Now it is a Republican and she 289 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: is saying, yes, there are real concerns here and we 290 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: need to do something about it. So the delegate was 291 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: unhelpful in regards to this prior to Jane. Now there 292 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: is a your one of your colleagues, has colleagues from Texas, 293 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: has offered a bill to make the end of birthright 294 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: citizenship in legislation for illegal immigrants and trying to get 295 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: some real hard legislation regardless of what the Supreme Court rules. 296 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: I guess Supreme Court rules against Trump doesn't really matter. 297 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Trying to get this in law so that way, if 298 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: the next president comes and waves, the next Democratic president 299 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: comes and waives the birthright citizenship rule that Trump's trying 300 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: to put in, there will actually be some teeth to it. 301 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: What is the reaction from the member your colleagues about 302 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: Trump's executive order, Because when it comes to immigration, unlike 303 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: some other issues, Republicans really run the gamut on policy. 304 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: You have some very very very pro amnesty Republicans and 305 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: some other Republicans who want to lock down the border. 306 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: We're going to find out because Representative Babin just to 307 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: introduce that as we're speaking here, Ryan, he just introduced 308 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: it this morning. I was at the press conference, gave presentation, 309 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: and so we are trying to put it in statuting. 310 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: What you're referencing. Okay, this lasts for four years to 311 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: the Trump administration. If we want this to be enduring, 312 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: we need to get it in statute, and hopefully we 313 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: are going to be able to do that. But I 314 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: think this is going to be challenging the courts, and 315 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: I think the left is taking a real risk here 316 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: because when you read the language, and I don't know 317 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: if you have or not, Brian, if you go back 318 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: and look at the text from eighteen sixty eight when 319 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: this was passed as a constitutional amendment. It was clearly 320 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: a post slavery constitutional amendment that was put in place, 321 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: and they were very clear in the language that they said, 322 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: this does not apply to foreigners. That's the term they're 323 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: used at the time. And I don't know how you 324 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: could have a more apt description of a foreigner than 325 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: somebody that's coming from that's a citizen outside the uni 326 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: United States of America. And I think this Supreme Court, 327 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: unless you know, Roberts goes all crazy on this, I 328 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: don't see how the Supreme Court could rule any other 329 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: way than that birthright citizenship is a figment of the 330 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: left's imagination and the progressive courts of the last five decades. 331 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's not even just foreigners. Native Americans 332 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: didn't qualify, and that is in the original interpretation of 333 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: the fourteen Amendment. But then again, the fourteenth Amendment has 334 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: become this, you know, it's become this ever loving gobstopper 335 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: from Charlie and the chocolate factor for the left of 336 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: these are every kind of policy want. Well, it's just 337 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: it's in the fourteen Amendment. You just have to keep 338 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: looking it up until you find it. The interesting thing 339 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: about the executive but for the executive order, is that 340 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm read in twenty twenty twenty to fifteen, China alone, 341 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: the industry of birth tourism in just was a half 342 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: a billion dollar a year industry among the world. And 343 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: that was in twenty fifteen. The whole world, especially big 344 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: countries that sent a lot of nine month pregnant women 345 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: to the United States, Turkey, Brazil, Russia, China, obviously Mexico, 346 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: it must be a multi billion dollar semi human smuggling enterprise. 347 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: And once again we don't know. I mean, El Chapo's 348 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: children were born in the United States. I believe I 349 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: might be just missaying on it. I'm pretty sure that 350 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: they American citizenship has been offered to definitely the children 351 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: of foreign leaders or terrorist organization people were working in 352 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: terrorist organizations. It's amazing that it's taken to this point 353 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: for anyone to sit there and uh and and waive 354 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: and have and have a moment of clarity for you know, 355 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: for the Trump administration about this, and that they're still 356 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: pushback at least on a national security aspect, which is 357 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: one one of the few areas that there's some decent bipartisanship. 358 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: Do you think Ryan that in highlights the how things 359 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: have to get so bad sometimes in order for there 360 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: to be reborn. And I think that's what's happened here. 361 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: And people are finding out the many facets of illegal immigration. 362 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: And it took a president as strong as Donald Trump 363 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 2: is committed as Donald Trump to take action on something 364 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: like this. Everybody would run in fear. Donald Trump does 365 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: not run in fear from the left. I mean, he's 366 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: proven that since he came down the escalator back in 367 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. And it's taken somebody like him to take 368 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: on these issues that have been turned on their head 369 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: over the decades. As we talk about this was passed 370 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: in eighteen sixty eight. It did not contemplate having people 371 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: claiming birthright citizenship just because you had a child in America. 372 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: But that's how it's been turned on its head here 373 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: in the twentieth century, and it's finally gotten so bad 374 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: that people are willing to take action. I would make 375 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: one other point here. I said four years ago. I 376 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: think it was in a judiciary hearing that the what 377 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: has been going on through the Biden years is the 378 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: largest human trafficking operation since slavery, and I was roundly 379 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: chastised for saying that, wouldn't you agree that that's the truth? 380 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: One? I think that I think that what is coming 381 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: into question really is that the Left wants us to 382 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: rethink the purpose of nationhood, Like why are we a country? 383 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: What makes the country if we're just an idea? Right, 384 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: If America is just an idea, like the left likes 385 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: us that they're in, say, well, we can just email 386 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: that idea around the world and then they could just 387 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: make it their own country. No, we are an immensely 388 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: prosperous place and immensely safe place if you look at 389 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: like the world as large, because of the people who 390 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: live here, and and the right of citizenship is the 391 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: big the right to be an American citizen is the 392 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: biggest privilege on this earth in my opinion. So to 393 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: give it away so easily and to and to allow 394 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: human traffickers, as you said, to just you know, create 395 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar industry out of it, a black 396 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, black market industry, and to say nothing of 397 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: it because it helps, I think feed the left. Bottom 398 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: line on challenging the idea of nationhood is just so 399 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: damning in my opinion, and so corrosive to their thought process. 400 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think your characterization is accurate. That I mean, 401 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: they're they're giving away citizenship cheaply. 402 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: Right. 403 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: It's it's like a it's like penny candy. And the 404 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: Mariana Islands are a really good example of you know, Okay, 405 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: we're just going to give these away. We're going to 406 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: make a visa change administratively in two thousand and nine. 407 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: And oh, this is one of the ramifications. Okay, no problem, 408 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: Chinese nationals are coming in. Oh, the Chinese communist government 409 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: might be our adversary. Huh, we really don't care. And 410 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: if you want to know who understands the value of 411 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 2: American citizenship, it's those cartels, right, Yeah, when they charged 412 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: five ten thousand, we've heard as high as fifty thousand 413 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: dollars to some Chinese nationals coming across the Mexican border 414 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: that they charge them. They know how much it's worth, 415 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: don't they. 416 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Right? And you know, Congress, when I'm from New York City, 417 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: my whole life. At the Roosevelt Hotel where they were 418 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: having all the migrants, there was a ward for pregnant women. 419 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: There was a huge thing. There was an increase in 420 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I read this from the CDC a few like a 421 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: month or two ago. There was a fifty percent increase 422 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: in the number of Venezuelan nationals having children in America 423 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four. When President 424 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: Biden was flown buying them in on the one app 425 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: they had this huge amount because they said, there's that 426 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: this is our chance. It is oftentimes and maybe I'm 427 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. It 428 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: is oftentimes the fact that foreign nationals and foreign cartels 429 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: understand the laws better than Americans do. And I would 430 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: honestly venture to be better than some members of Congress do. 431 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: The President company excluded Congress on Tiffany. 432 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't be surprised. El Chapo's kids who 433 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: are probably American citizens while. 434 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: We were talking. They were born in Los Angeles and 435 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: then they returned to Mexico. So yes, they got the 436 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: citizenship visa, the birthright citizenship for non citizens like and 437 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: people know status here. 438 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: El el Choppol may be a really bad guide, but 439 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: he ain't dumb. 440 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: Is he right? And according to the law that we 441 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: have on the books, think like this to the listeners. 442 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: El Chapo's children were born in Los Angeles, got American citizenship. 443 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: They had no visa status to be here. They can 444 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: if he ever gets out of jail, spot for him 445 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: for citizenship and he can never be deported. I just 446 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: but like, think about how ludicrous that whole in that 447 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: system is. What is the defense from the left? Is 448 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: it just that I think you said beforehand that Trump 449 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: was the only willing to take this on the fear 450 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: of being called a racist in America amongst Republicans is 451 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: palpable or was previous to Donald Trump. I think that 452 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: that fear is gone because they accused of being everything 453 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: under the sun for ten years. Now do you what 454 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: is the defense for the left? I mean, in the 455 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: court case, in the court documents that this, I think 456 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: it was Illinois put out the one of the lawsuits. 457 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: They said, you can't do this because there's just too 458 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: many children being born to non citizens. It's one in thirteen, 459 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand a year. On the other 460 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: side of the aisle, do you think there's any of 461 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: your Democratic colleagues who see this as problematic? 462 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: I think you see, you know how many people voted 463 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: for voted for the Lake and Riley Act. There's probably 464 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: about fifty something like that that voted for the Lake 465 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: and Riley Act. On the Democrat side, they at least 466 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: understand that, they at least understand there's political peril right, 467 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: that their next election has become tougher if they don't vote. 468 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: They understand at a minimum that. So I think there 469 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: are some people that they on the Democrat side, but man, 470 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: most of them this is this is a plank. This 471 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: is a plank in their. 472 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Party platform. 473 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the party platform. I mean, this is a 474 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: plank in the platform. Much like transgenderism and other stuff 475 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: like that. It is a plank in the platform at 476 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: this point, and if you don't adhere to it, we 477 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: are going to come and get you. And I hope, honestly, 478 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: for the sake of the country, I wish they would 479 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: change their ways. But for the sake of US Republicans 480 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: winning elections, don't change your We'll go that way. And 481 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: by the way, all people got to watch is you 482 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: saw the new ranking member on Judiciary, Jamie Raskin. I mean, 483 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: you couldn't get anybody more radical than Jamie Raskin to 484 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: chair the Judiciary Committee. Where they forced Jerry Nadler out, 485 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: And I mean that's a clear message that they are 486 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: going to stay the course on this issue, that people 487 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: should come in worry racing borders. They believe in globalism. 488 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: I mean, that's who they are at this point. 489 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's really ironic when you say Nadler 490 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: as almost like a centrist, thoughtful person. That shows how 491 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: far Congress has really moved. What can people do? What 492 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: can constituents do to raise awareness about this? There is 493 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: a bill, what's the name of the bill they can 494 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: call their congressman is that they're in co sponsored. It 495 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: would be great if they had one hundred percent of 496 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: the Republican members and there's thirteen Democrats in Republican seats. 497 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: They talked to my first episode podcast that what could 498 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: they do to kind of galvanize Congress to really start 499 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: moving on this issue. 500 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: It's the Birthright Citizenship Act. So yes, they should contact 501 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: their congressional representatives say tell them, hey, you need to 502 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: sign on to this. But more broadly, we're going to 503 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: probably take up a version of HR two, which you 504 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: remember from last session, best Secure the Border bill that 505 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: ever passed through a House of Congress. Died in the Senate. 506 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a version of that. People have to 507 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: stay after us. As you said earlier, there's people that 508 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: get a little squeamish on this issue. You want me 509 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: to Yeah, that's up to you. They need to stay 510 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: after in regard to this. You know, November fifth, we 511 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: elected Donald Trump and all the rest. We have majorities 512 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: then majorities, but people have to stay after us. The 513 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: fight is not over, and you got to stay after 514 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: us Republicans to follow through on what you expected us 515 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: to do when you voted on November fifth. 516 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: Now, Congressman, you have been a leader on this issue. 517 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow your information? Get I 518 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: guess newsletters from you, emails from you guys, or just 519 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: follow you on social media. They want to keep hearing 520 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: about this issue, and honestly any border security issue, which 521 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: you've been extremely good on. 522 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, just go to at Rep. Tiffany. I got a 523 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: great communications team that's always putting out good stuff, as 524 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: you see, And just go to at Rep. Tiffany t 525 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: I F F A N Y and you'll find us there. 526 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: By the way, we also put out a weekly newsletter 527 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: and it is one of the best that's out here 528 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: in Congress. It's called the Tiffany Telegram, comes out every 529 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: Friday in your email inbox. It's hard hitting, it's substantive. 530 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: We don't just talk about Okay, it's maple syrup season 531 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: in northern Wisconsin. 532 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: Though, that's maple syrup season Wisconsin. I don't know, is 533 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: that a real thing. 534 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: No, we had twenty five below. We got to get Okay, 535 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: we're a few months now, we're a few months away 536 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: from that, Ryan, But we really do put substantive stuff 537 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: in that Tiffany Telegram. There you go for that, Go 538 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: to my congressional website and you'll see the sign up 539 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: on Great. 540 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for leading on this issue, think for talking 541 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: about this issue, and thank you for being on this podcast. 542 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: Great to join you, Ryan, Thank you for listening this weekend. 543 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: Every week, you can check out my podcast on the 544 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 545 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: Please like and subscribe and tune in next week.