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Speaker 1: Hello, my love. It is La La Kent. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Give Them La La podcast. I'm podcasting today

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Speaker 1: from the Graduate Hotel in Nashville, Tennessee. In this fabulous bed,

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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton's photo painting picture is hanging above me. I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling all the fabulous vibes. I feel like it's the

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Speaker 1: perfect person to be hanging above my head because she

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Speaker 1: has amazing boobs. And when I get home from tour,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting my boobs done just to celebrate the fact

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Speaker 1: that I'm a national best seller, the fact that I

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Speaker 1: completed my first podcast tour. So she's giving me great

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Speaker 1: tig old bitty vibe. Dolly Parton's a bad bitch. She

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Speaker 1: is a bad bitch. She's amazing, amazing. So we only

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Speaker 1: have two, no, three more shows left, one tonight in

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Speaker 1: Nashville in Yes, but by the time this airs, we

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Speaker 1: will have completed Nashville. Yes, we will have completed New

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Speaker 1: Orleans and we will have we'll be waiting on Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling so far?

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Speaker 2: Like right now at this moment, we haven't done Nashville,

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Speaker 2: so I think we have five shows done.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling? It's such a weird feeling because

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Speaker 1: like for me, and I say this in my shows,

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Speaker 1: because it is surreal, Like when I go on stage

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Speaker 1: and everyone's showing me all the love in the world

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Speaker 1: and just people who have supported me for so long,

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Speaker 1: I go into the zone of like why because I

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Speaker 1: don't recognize the fact, Like when people come up to

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Speaker 1: sharing your story. It's still a bit surreal to me

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Speaker 1: because I just feel like I'm talking on this microphone

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Speaker 1: and like I don't know where this is going. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who's listening to it, you know, like I

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Speaker 1: pop up on TV, but I don't know who's watching.

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Speaker 1: Like it just hasn't yet hit me that, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: people know who I am and what I'm going through.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? No, it does make sense.

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Speaker 2: And it's been really cool to watch you meet these

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Speaker 2: people on this tour, these people who watch and support

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Speaker 2: you and talk to them because you do. You know,

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Speaker 2: you have a couple VIP things where you talk to

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Speaker 2: some kind of like in an intimate setting and then

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Speaker 2: you go into the meet and greet.

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Speaker 1: And then the show.

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Speaker 2: But it's been really neat to watch you meet these

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Speaker 2: people who support you and love you.

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Speaker 1: And how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Because I know that was one of your main goals

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Speaker 2: on this tour was you were like, I literally just

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Speaker 2: want to meet these people who have been supporting me

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Speaker 2: for so long.

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Speaker 1: It feels amazing. Like there was one woman who came

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Speaker 1: to a show and her her mom had passed away

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Speaker 1: and she was just going through it and that's my

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Speaker 1: time to like really connect with my people in person.

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Speaker 1: Another girl said I inspired her to get sober and

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Speaker 1: she's thirteen months sober and she brought her AA book

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Speaker 1: and had me sign it and like, I wrote a note,

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Speaker 1: and it's just, you know, that's when you remember what

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Speaker 1: this life is about.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's not about all of the things that are portrayed

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. It's not about all these things that we

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Speaker 1: watch on TV, whether it's vander Pump Rules, Housewives, Keeping

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Speaker 1: Up with the or the Kardashians. It's about those moments

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Speaker 1: where we can connect and get real and get vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: I love the meet and greets that we're doing because

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Speaker 1: the people that I get to connect within the meet

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Speaker 1: and greets, those people get to see, like Lauren from Utah,

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Speaker 1: like my truest self where I'm not trying to entertain you,

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Speaker 1: not trying to perform. I'm just like a bitch trying

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Speaker 1: to connect. I like those moments. I've heard a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because you like listen and you hear a

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Speaker 1: You're in it. But I'm sort of off to the side.

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Speaker 2: So after people meet you, I can they walk away

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Speaker 2: and I can kind of hear what they say, and

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Speaker 2: I hear a lot of she's so nice, and I

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Speaker 2: hear a lot of she's so tiny, ok, And it's

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Speaker 1: But I think people are you are nice?

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Speaker 2: That was my first You're sweet and real, and that

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Speaker 1: I went into that interview and I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, Jessica, just like she's a bad bitch, so

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Speaker 2: she's probably gonna be mean, and it's okay, don't take

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Speaker 1: And then I walked out of my interview with you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm was like, what was that.

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Speaker 2: She's like the nicest woman I've ever met, And I

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Speaker 2: but I think you because it's an energy. You can't

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Speaker 2: feel the energy until you're in front of people. I agree,

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Speaker 2: and they feel the kind energy and it's like game

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Speaker 1: It's really cool. I just love meeting meeting all of

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Speaker 1: you guys. I mean the fact, like so many people

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Speaker 1: have been like I listened to your podcast every week,

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Speaker 1: and no one's forcing them to do that. Yeah, no

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Speaker 1: one's forcing them to buy give them La la products.

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Speaker 1: Like they're doing that because they mess with me. They

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Speaker 1: like me, I have great products you do. It's just

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Speaker 1: so sweet. It is sweet. So I always feel the

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Speaker 1: need the second I step on the stage and it's

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Speaker 1: still even five shows in, Like I get on stage

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Speaker 1: and I have to take a moment, and I have

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Speaker 1: a moment because it is very overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to see all those people and hear them, and.

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Speaker 1: When you have a group of people who owe you

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Speaker 1: fucking nothing. Yeah, they don't know me from Adam, Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: they know me because of what they've seen and they've

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Speaker 1: gathered and there's like a glimpse of like, oh I

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Speaker 1: relate to her in this way or we're bonded in

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Speaker 1: this way. But like they're coming and showing up obviously

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Speaker 1: because they want to have a great night out. But

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Speaker 1: we're in Nashville Tennis right now. There's a million things

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Speaker 1: they could be going to entertain themselves with. And they

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Speaker 1: chose me, and I've chosen them, and you've chosen them.

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Speaker 2: It's really great. This has been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for the rest of the shows. I

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Speaker 2: think Nashville will be fun.

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Speaker 1: I have a really fun guest for New Orleans. Oh yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a freaking epic guest. And then in Texas

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Speaker 1: my guest is I'll just tell you, guys, my best

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Speaker 1: friend since childhood. We've been friends for thirty one years

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Speaker 1: and she's just a brilliant, beautiful spirit. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people know her as the hot girl from Grown Ups,

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Speaker 1: the Adam Sanmer movies. She had like a seven page

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Speaker 1: I still look up to her. She's my soulmate. And

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Speaker 2: And you guys are like, say, well, you guys are sisters.

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Speaker 2: When I first met her and saw you two together,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, oh, these are like sisters. What

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Speaker 2: is her Instagram handle so people who are going to

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Speaker 1: She's awesome, you guys said, awesome. It's I'm Madison, but

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Speaker 1: she spells it like medicine, so I'm Medicine. I am Madison,

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Speaker 1: D I C I N my little brilliant superstar.

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Speaker 2: She's great and talk about energy, you guys, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: feel it when she's on stage with Laala, and it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be really sweet to see their connection for you

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Speaker 2: guys to see their connection. And also the games since

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Speaker 2: you guys have known each other for so long. I

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Speaker 2: think the games are going to be fun.

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Speaker 1: The games will be fun because I want to bring

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Speaker 1: other like best friends up and see who knows their

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Speaker 1: best friend best. Yes, I just the tour, even though

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Speaker 1: She's home with Gig, they're having the best time. I

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Speaker 1: just I miss her terribly. How did you feel yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Because yesterday was Mother's Day and I thought that might

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Speaker 2: be a really hard day for you, but surprisingly to me,

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Speaker 2: you were very positive and you face timed them and like,

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Speaker 1: excited for today's podcast episode, I interviewed and talked to

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Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of New York. We deep dive into

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Speaker 1: her book, Being a Mom, her sobriety Journey, which is

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Speaker 1: always I love talking about sobriety. It's one of my

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Speaker 1: most favorite topics. And by the way, you guys, I

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Speaker 1: have gotten a lot of messages being like, can you

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Speaker 1: please redo the episode of you talking about sobriety because

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Speaker 1: he whose name we shall not mention this is there,

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Speaker 1: these are their words, not mine, is so annoying. We

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Speaker 1: cannot listen to his voice. He constantly cuts you off,

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Speaker 1: and it's torture so please redo it because we will

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Speaker 1: those episodes, that type of episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's great because we've gotten multiple dms about

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Speaker 2: that and they're like, I really it helps me, but

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Speaker 2: I don't want to listen to it right now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so their words not mine. Just I know.

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Speaker 2: I took screenshots and one day we can read them

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Speaker 2: all because they're kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: They're amazing, They're great. You guys are hilarious. That's another thing.

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Speaker 2: You're Your crew is wild, like you guys get Buck wild,

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Speaker 2: and you're fun and you're positive and like I just

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Speaker 2: it's been great.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: This tour has been amazing too, because I was worried

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Speaker 3: Hi, babe, I'm so happy to be here. I feel

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Speaker 1: Well, we would get into trouble together. I felt like

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Speaker 1: Good. I'm so happy to hear that they're good because

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Speaker 3: They love being on camera.

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Speaker 3: It took photo shoots to get to that picture, but

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Speaker 3: Yes, and yes, we literally you do judge books by

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Speaker 1: You know? I do know? And how? And the writing?

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Speaker 1: Right, No, I can imagine. I mean I went through

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Same. I was like, what why is she? Like,

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Speaker 1: So how old were you when you had kir twenty four?

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Speaker 1: What's the age difference between you and Rob? All of

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Speaker 3: to make more. And I know that sounds very backwards,

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00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of there's a lot of relationships

436
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: where it does work and the woman is the breadwinner.

437
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 3: And of course it's twenty twenty two. But me personally,

438
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: I want I mean, look, I haven't even been dating,

439
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: so you know, I mean, I'd probably take anything at

440
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: this point, but but I think long term, I would

441
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: want the guy to make more money than me, you know,

442
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 3: unless I like start making an insane amount of money.

443
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: But it's New York, you know what you're You're right.

444
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: If we're talking about my bank account now, then yeah,

445
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: he's got to be making more money than me, otherwise

446
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: we may be in deep shit.

447
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 3: We don't want to. We don't want to. Yeah, we

448
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 3: know I need, Like I've been paying my own damn

449
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 3: rent for too long.

450
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: Ready, right, And so you've had married to the mob

451
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: since you were twenty five.

452
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 3: I've had it since I was twenty two.

453
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: Twenty fucking two. You are so badass, thank you? And

454
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: what made you start it? Like was it that you

455
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: were just extremely passionate about like streetwear or was it

456
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: you wanted to have a business and that was just

457
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: the direction you were pulled in.

458
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think it was fate and like the universe

459
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: and like just I mean, of course, I was totally

460
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: into fashion. I was into streetwear. I was you know,

461
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: Rob had a life. I was hanging out with like

462
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: all our friends, and it was all dudes that had

463
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: their own brands. And I'm like, these guys are making

464
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: they have these brands. It's not like rocket Science. They're

465
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: making T shirts and sweatshirts and some one off little

466
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: items like I can do this, but I'll do it

467
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: like with my perspective on the streetwear world that's very

468
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: male dominated. And it really just started with like four

469
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: T shirts and I didn't have any expectations. I was

470
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: just having fun at first. And I really this is

471
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: why I really did it, because the guys were getting

472
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: free trips all over the world, and I was like,

473
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: I want to travel for free. I want someone to

474
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 3: pay for my fucking airfare to go to Japan or

475
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: like Germany or whatever, because these guys are all getting

476
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: free trips and I love traveling.

477
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It just made Married to the mob

478
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: an even cooler. Story that you started because you were like,

479
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: I just want to fucking travel for free by.

480
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got a lot of free trips. This

481
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: is great.

482
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So tell me the moment that fucking Rihanna posted. Okay,

483
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: can I just tell you When I see anybody who's

484
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: at the level of Rihanna and they're repping something by

485
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: a Bravo LB, I don't know why I take that

486
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: as a win for myself as well, because I'm like, yes, bitch.

487
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: But when I saw that, I was like, we've all

488
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: fucking made it. I love that.

489
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: I love that it's a sisterhood. I wish other people,

490
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: other people. I wished other women on the network would

491
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: think like that.

492
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I died. Okay, So for the listeners, if

493
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: you've been living under rock, that's my saying. If like

494
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on. Rihanna posted she had

495
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: like the cute bucket hat on with the sunglasses, and

496
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: then she had a T shirt that said MTTM.

497
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: It said bitch mom, but it was my shirt.

498
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: Oh and then a bitch Okay, so then it was

499
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: tagged married to the mob was tag though, and you.

500
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: Yes, And she also if you didn't notice her manicure

501
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: matched the graphic, which is like mind blowing to me.

502
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, did she do that on purpose? Or she

503
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: had that manicure and then put it on like how

504
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: Like she's epic. She's just the most epic bitch.

505
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: I was so on fire for you when that happened,

506
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: Like that's got to be surreal. Like I'm telling you,

507
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: if Rihanna was just like walking around with Laala's face

508
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: on her, I'd be like, you can't fuck with me.

509
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm literally untouchable. Now.

510
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: It was incredible, Like it really was, because you know,

511
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: not only was she like I'm team Leah, she was

512
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 3: also like co signing my brand, you know, and she's

513
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: more in the brand before, you know, but for her

514
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: to put it and plug it on total Instagram, obviously,

515
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: sales were crazy that day, that whole you know week.

516
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: But she's just she's the best.

517
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm a part of the Bravo network, but

518
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm also an uber fan. I watch every single Real

519
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: Housewives franchise ever and obviously when you stepped on it

520
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: was like a breath of fresh air. Now we're sitting

521
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: here with our thumbs up, our asses being like where

522
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: we at y'all, Like, I need it for my soul.

523
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: I know, do we know anything?

524
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: Not? Really? Yeah, I mean it's a bummer, but I

525
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: think the two, like Rony's is kind of cool. I

526
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: think it's a good idea. I personally have no idea

527
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: which show all be on, Like, I kind of want

528
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 3: to be on Legacy because I want to be Like

529
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: I'm assuming Diirinda will be on. I'm assuming, you know,

530
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: I want to be with Diirinda Tinsley. Maybe they'll make

531
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: up at some point, I'm not I'm not saying I

532
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 3: know that they're going to be on the show. I

533
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: don't even know what the format is or anything. But

534
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know anything, really.

535
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: Don't I I want you and Tinsley back on my television. Yes,

536
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I want Tinsley to make up with Derinda, but it

537
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: also makes for great TV that they're at each other's throats.

538
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: True.

539
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: See, I can watch from like a viewer standpoint and

540
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: also like being a part of it. And by the way, like,

541
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's happening with vander Pump. I'm

542
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: sitting here twiddling my thumbs being like, what are we doing?

543
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: Where are we at?

544
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

545
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: So that's just how I feel. I want you guys back.

546
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: I feel like all the people that they like threw

547
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: off need to come back or like need a new

548
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: you guys all need a new show together or something like.

549
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: I just want you like when you first ventured onto

550
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: the scene, Like I want that cast back.

551
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: I know that was a good season.

552
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: That was fun, it was a great season. So let's

553
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: venture back into your book because I'm super super hyped

554
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: for you, and being a published author is like it's

555
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: no joke and it's pretty huge. And you said that

556
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: you talk about being a mom in your book. Where

557
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: were you as far as like, because I know you've

558
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: struggled with drugs and alcohol, I completely relate to that.

559
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: Where were you in life when kir was born?

560
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: So I was. I had definitely stopped doing like super

561
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: hard drugs, you know, because I figured, like it's going

562
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: to kill me. But I was like drinking a lot.

563
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: I was definitely doing like blow and taking pills, and

564
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, for me, that was like not not hardcore,

565
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: and I was partying. I was just at the club

566
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: every night, like I was still doing Mob, but Mob

567
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: was like so new and I was making it work

568
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: for me. I could, you know, go to sleep at

569
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: six am or four am and wake up at eleven

570
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: or new and do my emails and do my work

571
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: or whatever. So I was definitely like in the midst

572
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: of being a party girl. And then I got pregnant,

573
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: and then it was really easy for me to not

574
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: drink during my pregnancy. I don't know why. I just

575
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: like felt like those hormones were so good for me.

576
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: Like I felt great being pregnant, and it was one

577
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: of the happiest times in my life, like me and

578
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: Rob were getting along, and I don't know, I felt

579
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: so purposeful and like I had something to plan for

580
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: and like, I don't know, had someone else to like

581
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: live for, you know. But then once I had her,

582
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: I had such depression. I had such postpartum.

583
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what does someone do? Because were you breastfeeding?

584
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking.

585
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I bressed that for like fifteen months

586
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: or something.

587
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: And did you feel like postpartum? Forgive me if I'm

588
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: like being stupid with this question, but I remember postpartum

589
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: being something and where you and I are pretty close

590
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: in age, I believe did you feel like you could

591
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: talk about it?

592
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: I felt like at that time, I felt so isolated,

593
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: like and I felt so like I didn't know what

594
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: I was doing. I had a newborn, I had my business.

595
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: Me and Rob were fighting. I was like so mad

596
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: at him because he was like like going to spending

597
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: so much time at work. I felt like so much

598
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: was falling on me. And I didn't know actually at

599
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: the time about postpartum, Like I just thought I was

600
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: needed to. I don't know, like I actually don't know.

601
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: I just I started drinking again, you know, I started.

602
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: I started drinking very soon after, and that's like when

603
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: it got really dark, and then I stopped drinking and

604
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: got sober when she was too, and didn't drink for

605
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: like almost a decade.

606
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that you started you picked

607
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: up again on the season right before before.

608
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like trying to kind of stop because

609
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I'm on a reality show,

610
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: Like I can't be the train wreck, Like I like

611
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: this is my worst nightmare, Like I have to stop again.

612
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: But it was already too late. Like Pandora's box was open.

613
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: I was not stopping again, and you know I had to,

614
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: like I couldn't close it.

615
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you you had like conquered your alcoholism,

616
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of times like we feel like, oh,

617
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: I've grown out of it, Like I don't even crave

618
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: it anymore, so I can have a drink. Did you

619
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: feel like that happened to you?

620
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: That's exactly how I felt. I was like, I'm in

621
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: a different place. I have all my shit together, I'm

622
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: emotionally mentally stable and feeling awesome, and I know that

623
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I really think I can drink regularly now.

624
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: And that was such a fucking lie, Like that was

625
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: such a my brain playing tricks on me.

626
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: I love having this conversation with you, because you know,

627
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: I remember when I first got sober, I was in

628
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: the rooms really often. You know, it was like I

629
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: was die hard for it. And then you know, you're

630
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: a year in, two years in, and you start pulling

631
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: back on the meetings, not because you feel like you

632
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: don't need them, but just life happens, and yeah, right,

633
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: And so when I can have conversations with other strong

634
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: women who have chosen in the path of sobriety, it

635
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: like it's taking a piece of the program and I'm

636
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: like implementing it into this podcast.

637
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: So having a meeting right now, like I.

638
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: Know, I love it.

639
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: It's so cool.

640
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: I have to say when and I know I can

641
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: say this to you. But when you guys were at

642
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: that like clambake or whatever and you started losing your shit.

643
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was epic. That was like I

644
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: feel like, that's like me, Like I felt all those

645
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: things like this is the thing the alcohol, let me

646
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: do it right. That's how I wasn't drunk. I would

647
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: have been wanting to do all of that, but I

648
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't because my other brain, my brain is going, Nope,

649
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: you can't do that because there's rules and we're civilized

650
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: and society and you don't act that way. But then

651
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: when I drink, it's like, Nope, I'm doing this and

652
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fucking do cartwheels and hump the floor and

653
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: fucking tear shit down. And that's really what I felt

654
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: like in that moment, Like actually.

655
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled for you that you're sober, but you

656
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: were a mother fucking vibe in that moment.

657
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm happy that the year I drank what we

658
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: had some great I got to drink with fucking the

659
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: best of them, Like we did I got to drink

660
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: with like Sonia morph like I got to get blackout

661
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: drunk with Durinda, Like it's pretty epic, and we had

662
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: some great moments for TV and I got I was, yeah,

663
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm totally like the teeky torches everything, Like I not

664
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: a terrible job as a person in a relapse, Like

665
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: it was pretty good.

666
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was phenomenal. Happy that you're

667
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: sober now. And I feel like without those moments, like

668
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: so often we sit here and we question moments that

669
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: happened to us and we want to sit here and

670
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: like dwell on them. But I feel like without them,

671
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be where we are today. And I mean,

672
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: you're a fantastic mother. You're such an amazing example for

673
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: a strong independent woman, Like how incredible for your daughter.

674
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: Well, I feel the same way about you, by the way,

675
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: thank you.

676
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: And I never used to think that way until I

677
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: had Ocean, and I just look at mothers differently now,

678
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: and you know, even single mothers, Like I know you

679
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: have a co parent, which is great, but like you're

680
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: doing the damn thing on your own, and I know

681
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: it can't be easy raising a teenager, Like what is

682
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: she like, what is she into?

683
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: She's actually just she just left the apartment. She was

684
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: she was very excited today because she is on Honor

685
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: Roll and she wanted a bait puddy and it's very expensive,

686
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: but I was like, because you're on the Honor Roll,

687
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: I will get this for you. Then she without me knowing,

688
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: said to her dad, can I have a presence on

689
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: the Honor Roll and got him to get her a

690
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: Supreme backpack. I'm like, you're a little hype east like,

691
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: but she has her own style and then she has

692
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: like true religion gene. She's very into her oh, because

693
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: true religion is back. It's like these kids want to

694
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 3: wear like Y two K stuff, like it's right anyway,

695
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: She's into fashion, and she's into hanging out with her

696
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: friends and her friend group, and you know, she does

697
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: well in school, so I'm happy about that.

698
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: But that's really all you can ask for.

699
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: And she's a well adjusted, happy kid. It's like, no,

700
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: she doesn't speak five languages. I don't think she's going

701
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: to Harvard like whatever, but she's she's doing great. But

702
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 3: she's happy. And she's also like she feels good about

703
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: who she is and she's not going to other people

704
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: to feel good, or drugs or anything like, thank God,

705
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: that's all I needed. That's all I wanted, was my daughter.

706
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: That's what every parent just praised to God for every night, exactly.

707
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have it. So I'm grateful because I

708
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: don't know how i'd emotionally be able to handle having

709
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: a teenager like me.

710
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, bitch, I'm trying to stay sober. I

711
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: can't keep your ass sober too.

712
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: Exactly, I would be in the grave. I do not

713
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: know how my parents handle it, like I do not,

714
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: But it's scared. I mean definitely when you're in meetings

715
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: and stuff and they're I mean, look, I'm sober, my

716
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: mother is sober. You know, my sister's sober. My dad

717
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: needs to be sober, and you know this is a

718
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: family disease too. So I definitely get scared. But I

719
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: have that conversation with her, like, hey, Keky, I know

720
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna experiment, but like you should know that it's

721
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: dangerous for you. You could have the gene.

722
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: I think that's amazing that you're already having that conversation

723
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: with her, because I'm gonna have to have that conversation

724
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: with ocean.

725
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: At some point, of course, you definitely are.

726
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: God, how fucking terrifying being a parent now?

727
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I remember Keiki's like first birthday. It

728
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: seems like I don't know, I just I wish I

729
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: had like held on to those moments more or something

730
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: when she was younger, like she still like wants to

731
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: cuddle with me sometimes. I'm really lucky, like we have

732
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: a good relationship. Doesn't hate me. But it's like, but

733
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: it's sad when they get older, they're like, because like

734
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: the young they're like, where does the little girl go?

735
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: She's gone, Okay, I know this is a really stupid question,

736
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: but does it really fly by?

737
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? It does. I mean also like I feel like

738
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: I didn't really enjoy being a parent til she was

739
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: like six or something. Like I was like, oh my god,

740
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: this is so hard, and I sleep and I you know,

741
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: but then when I see little pictures of her like

742
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: as like a four year old, like hanging on me

743
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: and hugging me, and I'm just like, oh my god,

744
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: I miss that And I didn't like I didn't like

745
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: savor it enough or something. I guess it's hard to do,

746
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 3: but like because you're doing, you're doing life and doing

747
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: everything and it's like fucking hard parenting, but it does

748
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: fly by. It really does. Like it's crazy, like looking

749
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: at pictures of her when she's little or videos of

750
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: her when she's little, like I forget, like how sassy

751
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: she was. It's really funny.

752
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: And they come how they are Like Ocean. I can

753
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: teach her the basics like be nice to people, be kind,

754
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: but her personality is just she came out the cookie that.

755
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: Way exactly, just like we did.

756
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: Totally right, yes, Like there's no thing when when people

757
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: comment on like how my mom raised me, I'm like,

758
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: that bitch had no fucking control exactly.

759
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my mother definitely didn't either.

760
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: Right, I'm like, don't blame this on the mama, because

761
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: now I look at Ocean, I'm like, I'm not responsible

762
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: for anything she does in the future.

763
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I feel like I want to ask

764
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: you questions, but this is your podcast.

765
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: So don't you have a podcast, Leah?

766
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: You know what, I had a podcast for many years

767
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: and then I was like sick of like talking, but

768
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: then like me and but now me and my sister

769
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 3: we have a podcast coming out me and my sister.

770
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: Well, I would love to be a guest on it.

771
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: We're gonna be a guest on it, and I'm gonna

772
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: ask you a bunch of questions and talk about you.

773
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking open book. So before I let you go,

774
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: I have the corniest question in the world. And when

775
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: people asked me this, I hated the question, but I'm

776
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: gonna do it to you anyway. If people can take

777
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: one thing away from your book Chaos Theory, what would

778
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: you want them to take away from it?

779
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: Probably that if they are questioning where they are in life,

780
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: or dealing with addiction issues or mental health issues, or

781
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: like in a fucking toxic relationship, you can turn things

782
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: around and like, you're not alone, but you can turn

783
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: things around.

784
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: I love that. That like hit me pretty hard because

785
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: you know you can. We always think that we're not

786
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: going to be okay and we're going to be fucking okay.

787
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we turn it around and we make it better.

788
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: We do.

789
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: We make it better than it was before that very part. Yeah,

790
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: when when everything when we break and we get broken,

791
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: we put ourselves back together even better version than before.

792
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 3: So it's good when you get broken.

793
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: I fucking co sign on that. Where can people purchase

794
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: the book and where can people follow you?

795
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: You can purchase Chaos Theory at you know, your local

796
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: independent bookstore, or if you want to just order it

797
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: on Amazon, you can do that or Barny Nobles, and

798
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: you can follow me on instagraund ask Leah mom.

799
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I really fucking adore you question. Lala, You're amazing. Thank

800
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: you so much Leah for being on my podcast.

801
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, Lala,