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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff Mom Never told you?

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Speaker 1: From housetop works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Is this Kristen and this is Molly, So Molly.

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Speaker 1: Today we're talking about women's magazines and guilty pleasure, guilty Pleasures,

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Speaker 1: and recently, the magazine Glamour received a ton of reader

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Speaker 1: mail and national spotlight for this photo of a model

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Speaker 1: plus size model named Lizzie Miller, size twelve, and it

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Speaker 1: was kind of a sideshot of her. She was sitting down,

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Speaker 1: she was naked in the nude, the buff, and it

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Speaker 1: showed something that they're now referring to as her belly flap. Now,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I kind of say, size twelve model

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Speaker 1: does not sound like a plus size, doesn't sound plus size.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get to that. We'll get to that later on, Okay,

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Speaker 1: in the episode. But yeah, there was this huge, you know,

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Speaker 1: outpouring of praise for Glamour for showing a real, real

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Speaker 1: woman's body with actual not They didn't photoshop out her

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Speaker 1: belly flap. She actually had a little little thigh thigh

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Speaker 1: fat um and uh, you know, just it reflected more

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Speaker 1: of a normal woman's body than say, you know, Kate Moss. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so now's the outpouring positive? Oh yeah, it was very positive.

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Speaker 1: They were saying, oh, thank you so much, Glamour, if actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, showing a real woman's body, we can actually

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Speaker 1: relate to this. And Lizzie Miller got all this wonderful

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Speaker 1: at tension, and Vogue is also promised to like start

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Speaker 1: showing more quote unquote plus size models and they're um

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Speaker 1: in their magazines as well. But then, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: this whole question though. I mean, if there was such

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Speaker 1: a huge outpouring of love for a single photo in Glamour,

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Speaker 1: what does that about women's magazines and where we are today?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it was such a breath of fresh

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Speaker 1: air to actually see some semblance of a real woman's body,

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Speaker 1: what kind of messages are we getting from these magazines? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: And the reason I asked you what the outpoint was

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Speaker 1: like because I remember, um, you know that my bible

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Speaker 1: growing up with seventeen magazine. I mean, it wasn't my

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Speaker 1: real Bible. I don't want to offend religious people, but

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Speaker 1: the world. I read seventeen magazines. Remember one time they

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Speaker 1: put in kind of this chubby model. Not I mean,

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Speaker 1: she wasn't chubby, she looked real. But they got just

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Speaker 1: as many letters, they said, from people who didn't like

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Speaker 1: seeing someone like that in a magazine as they different

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Speaker 1: people who are like, yes, thank you someone who looks

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Speaker 1: like me. So it's almost like we want these standards

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Speaker 1: of perfection in the magazines, but then as soon as

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Speaker 1: off by it. Emily, I would agree that it seems

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Speaker 1: like a lot of women's magazines do portray this unattainable

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Speaker 1: ideal of women's beauty. You know, that's gonna keep us

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Speaker 1: buying all of those products that their advertisers are hawking.

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Speaker 1: And in general, you can you can break down most

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Speaker 1: women's magazines into these main categories. You've got sex, relationships, fashion, beauty,

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Speaker 1: But how how are all of these topics really shaping

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Speaker 1: um our ideas about ourselves as women? Because if we

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Speaker 1: go back to the olden days of women's magazines. They

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Speaker 1: were far site different than the ones that we have today,

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Speaker 1: right right, I mean they were still driven by women's

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Speaker 1: So you would get your Lady mag and you would

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Speaker 1: Sex Toilet, a weekly collection of literary pieces principally designed

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Speaker 1: the preevious Lady's Afternoon Visitor, and then the Mother's Magazine,

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Speaker 1: which there's still another's magazine. But one thing that was

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Speaker 1: journal started by Lucy Stone, who you remember, remember from

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Speaker 1: portraying you know, the ideal woman is having all of

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Speaker 1: And the year before the femininistique came out, we have

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Speaker 1: We have Helen Gurley Brown take over as the editor

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Speaker 1: of Cosmopolitan magazine, probably the most I think stereotypical women's magazine.

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Speaker 1: Like when we're talking about women's magazine today, that's what

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Speaker 1: fringe publications. Oh yeah. I would say that Cosmo was

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Speaker 1: my version of Playboy because they were hidden under my bed,

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Speaker 1: Kristen who people who are about age. But at that

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