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Speaker 2: You don't fool championships. That should always be the expectation.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, actually, go ahead. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 2: Richard Sherman Podcast, presented by our friends and partners over

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Speaker 2: at Brightley, Getting us right, keeping it tight. Had a

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Speaker 2: really fun game tonight the Cleveland Browns and the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Jameis Winston. I mean, if nothing else, he's always fun

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Speaker 2: to watch. Jamis is always fun to watch. It's always

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Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of yards. He's gonna get to

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Speaker 2: if they didn't start, if they started Jamis to this

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Speaker 2: season at the beginning, they might be in playoff contention.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's beat two really good teams in their division.

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Speaker 2: He's beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, he beat the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 2: and he just plays at a really high level. Mitchell

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Speaker 2: and I know he had three interceptions. He he forced

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Speaker 2: behind on a second pick six. I think Elies Moore

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Speaker 2: could probably tap him down and ended that play. But

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Speaker 2: I mean outside of that, he pushed the ball down

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Speaker 2: to field four hundred and ninety seven yards. You just

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Speaker 2: don't see that very often. I think it's a Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns record, at least in the modern times. Broke the

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Speaker 2: record for your offensive output. And I think he's sending

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Speaker 2: a message to Brown's fans and that front office that hey,

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Speaker 2: maybe he's auditioning for other teams, and other teams were saying,

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Speaker 2: if you need a bridge quarterback or somebody who deserves

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Speaker 2: a career rejuvenation or turnaround, I think Jamis deserves it.

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Speaker 2: You know again, I always sit there and get flack

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Speaker 2: for comparing him to Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones, But

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Speaker 2: I think he's better than both. If I'm being honest,

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Speaker 2: I think he's a better quarterback than both of those guys.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think he gets the same kind of

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Speaker 2: for five thousand yards in the season, thirty plus touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he had the thirty interceptions and that kills him.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at a lot of these other guys,

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Speaker 2: they're throwing a lot of interceptions. They're throwing a lot

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Speaker 2: They're not taking a kind of risks. They're not as

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Speaker 2: productive as Jamis is. And if you talk about these receivers,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they love playing with Jameis Winston. You look

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Speaker 2: at Jerry Judy today in his revenge game against the

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Nine catches for two hundred and thirty five

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Speaker 2: yards in a touchdown, and he could have had more.

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Speaker 2: Jamis missed him on one of them. Elijah Moore eight

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Speaker 2: in the same game, and it's not like he's doing

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Speaker 2: it with the most elite weapons in the world. You know,

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy is a good player. He was highly touted

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Speaker 2: coming out of Alabama. But Elijah More also highly touted.

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Speaker 2: But they had not been as productive as as expected

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Speaker 2: when they came into the league. And look at him,

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Speaker 2: look at him under young Jamis. But huge win for

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Speaker 2: the Broncos and young bow Knicks. Eighteen thirty five two

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Speaker 2: ninety four yards. The one touchdown had two interceptions. You

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Speaker 2: can't you can't try Denzel Award too many times. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the heck of it played by Denzel Award on a

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Speaker 2: deep post post covering memes. He made a number of

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Speaker 2: really cool plays in this game. The Denver Broncos did

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Speaker 2: enough to win the game. Jalilmakloughlin really started to get

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Speaker 2: Javonte Williams and Michael Burton get the goal line touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Marvin Mems has a huge play ninety three yard touchdown,

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Speaker 2: ends the game with three catches for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: five yards. Courtland Sutton another one hundred yard game for him,

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Speaker 2: but the huge plays were the Nick Benito and Jakwan

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Speaker 2: McMillan touchdowns. Obviously, this defense gave up a ton of yards.

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Speaker 2: Vance Joseph puts these boys in really difficult situations and

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it was a long

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Speaker 2: when you're giving up the kind of passes that I

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Speaker 2: think it was. Levi Wallace was given up in this game.

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Speaker 2: I feel for him because the fans are gonna beat

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Speaker 2: you up. You're gonna beat yourself up. You gotta go

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Speaker 2: back and watch that tape. It's not a lot of answers.

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Speaker 2: It's hard positions he's getting put in covering the receiver

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Speaker 2: the day, Jerry Judy could have ran any route in

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Speaker 2: the world and had all the space. If the pressure

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Speaker 2: doesn't get home, that's the weakness of the coverage. I

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Speaker 2: think Dance Joseph knows that when he calls it. They

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's just something that Denver is gonna

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Speaker 2: would look to exploit that. But huge game, huge win

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Speaker 2: for Sean Payton and at Denver Broncos, Huge revenge game

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Speaker 2: for Jerry Judy. Happy for him. I'm sure he would

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Speaker 2: have wanted to help his team get this win, but

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Speaker 2: one of his career high in a game coming back

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Speaker 2: to Denver, showing these fans what he's really capable of

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Speaker 2: when he has a quarterback, they can get him the

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Speaker 2: ball when he needs it, how he needs it. I

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Speaker 2: think it was positive on both sides. Browns go back

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Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh to play the Steelers, see if they could

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Speaker 2: steal another win from them in this division. The Broncos

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Speaker 2: head to a very well deserved bye week late in

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Speaker 2: the season. That's kind you love, Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely are the beneficiaries of that rich and

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Speaker 1: you know, more talk about Jamis here.

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Speaker 2: This guy.

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Speaker 1: There's no way, and I know we've already talked about

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Speaker 1: previous segments, there's no way this guy is not a

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Speaker 1: throw all these quarterbacks into the ring. Jamis is going

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Speaker 1: to be one of the top thirty two in the league,

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Just to show you how

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Speaker 1: he can elevate the people around him, This was the

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Speaker 1: mean both of these guys, both Elijah Moore and Jerry

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Speaker 1: Judy were considered I mean, I don't want to call

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Speaker 1: him bus but underwhelming out of college for their draft

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Speaker 1: very thankful to have a mature Jamis Winston a season

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston back there, who's taken a lot of steps

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Speaker 1: since his days in Tampa Bay. This guy's really impressed me, man,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's If he's not the starter in

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Speaker 1: to be a starter somewhere else because there's at least

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Speaker 1: a dozen teams that would love to have him right now, Richard,

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Speaker 1: this is a huge one for the Broncos. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the AFC playoff picture is it's pretty much closed out

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Speaker 1: this one big time. But we saw some flaws in

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Speaker 1: them defensively. I mean, their defense was this highly touted

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Speaker 1: we saw some flaws. Fortunately for them, they came up

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Speaker 1: But what really impressed me today about them is boeckx.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy the second half of the season,

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Speaker 1: and I know he's not the Vegas favorite to win

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Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year. I mean's that honor goes

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Speaker 1: to Jadon Daniels right now per DraftKings. But Richard, I

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Speaker 1: make the case for Bonis here. How is he not

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Speaker 2: Well, Jadon Daniels has just been more consistent throughout the season. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: he had the three game skid or four games skid

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Speaker 2: obviously in this NFC East, you know they've lost games,

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Speaker 2: But I think people give Jadeen more credit for just

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Speaker 1: Game time, Richard, Let's talk a little bit about your

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have the guys to wave the

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Speaker 2: It's an unfortunate hit. It happens. This is the National

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Speaker 2: Oh well, with this player safety. They don't really care

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Speaker 1: can tell that was not his intent, and you know

429
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: the way he handled it was like a man. So

430
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: kudos to him for the way he handled it after

431
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: the fact. Richard, Let's talk a little bit about this

432
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 1: MVP race. We talked last night about it, and you

433
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: said Josh Allen should not be the leader or is

434
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: not going to win the MVP, is what you said.

435
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: But DraftKings and Vegas in general thinks differently. They have

436
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: Josh Allen as the leader of the clubhouse at a

437
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: minus two twenty five odds, with the closest person next

438
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 1: to him Sakwon Barkley at plus three point fifty, followed

439
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: by Lamar Jackson at nine hundred, Goff at twelve hundred,

440
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: and Mahomes at twenty eight hundred.

441
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: You have that much conviction you're.

442
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: Still seeing after seeing this and hearing this, you still

443
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: believe Josh Allen is not going to win the MVP.

444
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, because I just don't know what it's based off

445
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: on of anymore. You know, it used to be based

446
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: off of elite stats and and you know, really really

447
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: special performances, and Josh Allen's team is having a special performance,

448
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: and he's performed special in certain games. Not that he's

449
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: playing bad football by any stretcher down imagination. He's playing

450
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: really good football. But MVP level used to be held

451
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: to a higher regard. And just like last year, everybody

452
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 2: was killing me because I was like, Josh Allen has

453
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: forty what do you have? Forty four touchdowns? Last year

454
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: forty four total touchdowns at about forty three hundred passing yards.

455
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: He did have the eighteen interceptions. That was that was

456
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: the red herring that but I was like, that's a

457
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 2: great season, Like that's an impactful season. That's a season

458
00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: worthy of MVP consideration. And this season he has to

459
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: end up with a lot I can't say a lot

460
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: less touchdowns, but he has twenty passing touchdowns, only five interceptions,

461
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: which is a huge improvement, three hundred and thirty four

462
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: rush yards, six touchdowns, and he still has five games

463
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: to go, so you know that twenty six hundred and

464
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: ninety one yards will probably get closer to four thousand

465
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: if he what is that Let's see if he gets

466
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty a game. Five games, that'll be yeah,

467
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 2: it'd be right under right, about forty three hundred something

468
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: like that. But I just don't understand it when the numbers.

469
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about anything but the numbers. Guys, just

470
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: like I was last year when I said, Lamar with

471
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: twenty four passing touchdowns is gonna be the MVP, and

472
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: they told me, yes, I sound crazy, I'm stupid. I'm

473
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: an idiot because I don't think he should get it

474
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: because those numbers aren't really all inspiring compared to his

475
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: MVP season where he had I think, I believe thirty

476
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: six passing touchdowns and I think he had I'd have

477
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: to go back and look, but eight or nine rushing

478
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: touchdowns and he just had a lot more that you

479
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: looked at the stat line and he said MVP. Like,

480
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: if you look at it and you say, hey, completion percentage,

481
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: does he lead the league? Is he top five? No

482
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: passing yards saying, no passing touchdowns, no interceptions, He's probably

483
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: close to up there. But then you look at Burrow

484
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: and Lamar and you're just like, Burrow is just being

485
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: let down at this point. But we're gonna get to

486
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: him later. Then you look at Sakwan Barkley. Over twelve games,

487
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 2: he has fifteen hundred pretty much fifteen hundred rushing yards,

488
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: averaging one hundred and twenty four yards a game, almost

489
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five yards a game, eleven rushing touchdowns,

490
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 2: which should be fifteen if it wasn't for the tush

491
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: push and them giving it to Jalen Hurts from the

492
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: one yard line four or five times, two hundred and

493
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: seventy five touches, seventeen hundred scribbage yards. That's starting to

494
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: sound like an MVP numbers with five games to go.

495
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: So if you say he averages what he averages for

496
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: the next five games, what is that six hundred or

497
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: so yards, So that put him over two thousand yards

498
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: for a running back. That would sound like an MVP season.

499
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: He'd probably be leading the league in all those categories. MVP.

500
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, don't get mad at me,

501
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: because the numbers are the numbers. Guys MVPs usually lead

502
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: the league. Now it's become such a popularity contest of

503
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: hey man, everybody's making a lot of noise about these

504
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: guys making special plays that the numbers don't even matter

505
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: anymore when I let's get to Lamar Jackson. When I

506
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: sit there and say, man, Lamar Jackson's having an MVP season.

507
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: He has almost six hundred more yards passing yards than

508
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, nine more passing touchdowns, two less interceptions, three,

509
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: it is completing a higher percent of his higher percentage

510
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: of his passes, has almost three hundred plus more rushing yards.

511
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: Don't call me crazy, these are the numbers. His team

512
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: is eight and five. Sure, could he have run a

513
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: little bit more last week? Sure, give you that. And

514
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: will he win MVP without his team being a one

515
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: or two seed? Probably not. But the numbers are the numbers.

516
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: And just like Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow is being let

517
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: down in such a criminal way by his defense, and

518
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: it's it's really sad. I mean to score thirty three

519
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: plus and four games and lose all four of them,

520
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: to have MVP numbers over twelve games, and to be

521
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: four and eight. They showed a stat where the quarterbacks

522
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: had you know, I think it was three thousand plus yards,

523
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: thirty touchdowns, or it might have been just thirty plus touchdowns,

524
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 2: five interceptions over twelve games. And I don't think it

525
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: was Tom, it was Aaron, it was Peyton, it was

526
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: all of them. And it was ten wins, eleven wins,

527
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: nine wins, I think nine was the least. And then

528
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: it was Joe Burrow at four wins, and it's just like,

529
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: my goodness, what a wasted year for him. And I

530
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: can't imagine how he feels because you're looking at that

531
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: tape and trying to see what else he could have

532
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: done more. But again, you look at his stats. Thirty

533
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: three hundred passing yards leads the NFL, thirty passing touchdowns

534
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 2: leads the NFL. Five interceptions MVP. If Josh Allen had

535
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: those numbers, I'd be sitting there saying, you guys are silly.

536
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: Give him the award, walk away like it's done. But

537
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: he has ten less touchdown pass ten less, like that's

538
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: a huge number to have less than it. And I

539
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: don't understand people are acting like I'm hating. I really

540
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen. We just had the game, we we

541
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: talked to him. He's a great human being. He's playing

542
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: phenomenal football right now. But is it MVP level. I

543
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: don't Maybe I'm I'm looking at something different than you guys,

544
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: maybe I'm looking at at something. And yes, I've watched

545
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills play. Yes, I understand how dependent they

546
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: are on Josh Allen performing at a high level to

547
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: win these games. All right fully understand that. But but

548
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: do the numbers not matter anymore? If they don't, then okay,

549
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: then you got it. Then then then maybe then maybe

550
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna go to Jared Golf because they'll they'll mess

551
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: around and get the one seed in the NFC. He'll

552
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: have seventy one percent completion percentage, twenty nine hundred passing yards,

553
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: twenty two passing touchdowns, nine interceptions like they're they're eleven

554
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: and one though, you know, like what what? What is

555
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: the criteria? Now? I'm just baffled, I'm bamboos with I'm flummocks.

556
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

557
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: I do have a lot of respect for Josh Allen.

558
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: I think he should certainly be up there in this conversation.

559
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: But to me, it's like.

560
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: The season that Saquon Barkley's had is unbelievable. He looks

561
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: like he looks like he did at Penn State when

562
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: he was just running all over people left and right

563
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: every game, and the way he's elevated and provided such

564
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: a new dimension to this Eagles offense. Richard, It's you

565
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: can just see it happening. I mean, it's repetitive. This

566
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles team with him at the at the running

567
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: back position, they just grind people down and by that

568
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: and mid to late third quarter, you can just see

569
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: the tie turn.

570
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: And shift to the Eagles.

571
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there are gonna be anywhere close to

572
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: ten and two without him, and just the way he's

573
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: been playing. If he does not win the MVP, what

574
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: in the world is it going to take for a

575
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: running back to win an because there hasn't been in

576
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: a running back since twenty twelve when Adrian Peterson won it.

577
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 2: Right, And that's what I'm saying, Like, if you just

578
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: look at the numbers, I just don't understand it. Because

579
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: if you tell me a running back has literally rushed

580
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: for over two thousand yards, and obviously it's seventeen game season,

581
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: it used to be more rare over sixteen games. But

582
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: still give them credit because it's still over one hundred

583
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: yards a game. And you say that Josh Allen finishes

584
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: in the positions that he is in now, he'd beat

585
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: thirteenth in passing yards, tied for sixth and passing touchdowns.

586
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't. I don't know, because

587
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: because what does it mean to be MVP most valuable

588
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: player in the National Football League If you're saying just

589
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: the most valuable player in the league to his team,

590
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: just Saquan is the most valuable player right now, to

591
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: his team. Take him off. They're different. Take Josh Allen

592
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: off of Buffalo. They're a lot different too. They're bad.

593
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: You take Joe Burrow off the Cincinnati Bengals right now,

594
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they might get relegated. I don't. We don't

595
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: do relegations, but if you follow Major League soccer at all,

596
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: but teams get sent back to the developmental league if

597
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: they're not competing hard enough, and if they didn't have

598
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and T Higgins, let's not

599
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: disrespect tea, they might be relegated. Mitchell, So I just

600
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he gets hot and has a

601
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: few three hundred yard games and really pats those stats

602
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: and gets into the top five in those categories. But

603
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: I just don't, you know, I don't understand the fixation

604
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: where it's like like he's a he's the like clear favorite.

605
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: You know, it'd be different if it's like, oh, they're

606
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: all But you're saying he's a clear favorite. What numbers justify?

607
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: You know? That's that's all I'm saying, Josh. If he's

608
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: gonna win it, he's gonna win it. Just like last

609
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: year I said this and Lamar still won it. Lamar

610
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: deserves it this year, and now the people are gonna

611
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: tell me he's not gonna win it. I just like,

612
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

613
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Because there's a quarterback captain and a team with the

614
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: better record Richard, and I mean, to his credit, they

615
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: catch a pass for a touchdown, throw a touchdown pass,

616
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: and rush for a touchdown pass last night.

617
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: So really cool. But then if you say, if your

618
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: quarterback captaining a quarterback a team to a better record

619
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: than Jared Golf is doing the same.

620
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: Thing, I agree, and I'm all aboard that. Jared Goff

621
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: for MV. You already know.

622
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: That rich if he wouldn't have thrown those five interceptions,

623
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: it would be a lot, it wouldn't It would.

624
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of these divisional races right now.

625
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: Let's start with the NFC West I know that's near

626
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: and dear to your heart. And right now the Seattle

627
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks have a game lead over the Cardinals and the

628
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: Rams with the forty nine ers two games back. Richard,

629
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: do you like I mean bias aside, do you like

630
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: this team to come out of the NFC wise?

631
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Well, I was about to switch hats, but I don't

632
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: even feelex hands right now, I do. I just this

633
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: game against Arizona Cardinals this week is gonna tell us

634
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: a lot if they win that, and I feel really

635
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: good about their chances to come out of this NFC West,

636
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: barring barring some some disaster down the stretch. You look

637
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: at Leonard Williams playing defense, playing really, really, really fantastic

638
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: defensive football. That defense just seems like it's it's feasting.

639
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 2: Their energy is high, they're swarming. Ernest Jones has looked

640
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: like a godsend coming in and really really making his

641
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: name known and making his impact. Tyrese Knight got a

642
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: turnover last week, making his presence known, flying around, hitting

643
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: everything moving. They're just better fits in this game than

644
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: the backers before. Tyrone Dotson, you know who's now with

645
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. They just look like they're doing the

646
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: things that Mike McDaniel, I mean, Mike McDonald envisioned when

647
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: he got this defense together. I think when they play

648
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: like this, their offense will eventually come. If they give

649
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Geno time, he will get it done. Arizona is one

650
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: of those teams that brings a lot of pressure. It'll

651
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: be exotic. I'm sure sure Gannon will figure some things

652
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: out and really come up with a great plan. If

653
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: they can stop the run, it's gonna be important. James

654
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: Connor has been known to close game out. If they

655
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: can stop the run and beat Arizona again, and Mitchell,

656
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna be feeling sitting pretty pretty good in a

657
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: good spot going down the stretch.

658
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Speaker 1: The other team to worry about there is the La Rams.

659
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you give Matthew Stafford any opportunity and

660
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: he can be dangerous. But the Seattle Seahawks team has

661
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: looked completely different over this last three game winning strike streak,

662
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: so you got to give them a lot of credit.

663
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: And like you said, this game this weekend is going

664
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Speaker 1: to be the divider. If they can go up two

665
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: games on Arizona and just have to worry about La

666
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: down the stretch, really, that would be a huge, huge

667
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: weight off their chest, no question. Let's talk about my

668
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: NFC North. I know you're coming into town this Thursday

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Speaker 1: to watch my Detroit Lions take on the Green Bay Packers.

670
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Right now, Richard, as good of a season as Detroit

671
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: Lions can have. It's been a dream season. Eleven wins

672
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: and one loss, best start to the season in franchise history.

673
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: And you'd think they just have a cake walk for

674
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: the division title. But that is just not the case

675
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: at all. The Minnesota Vikings are a game back, green

676
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Bay pay Packers are two and obviously this Thursday is

677
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: a huge opportunity for the Packers. You know, I love

678
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. I am very much so worried about

679
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: them for these next two games because they need to

680
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: get healthy. They've brought in four new bodies to this

681
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: defense right now. If you look at the roster from

682
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, and I know I'm I'm

683
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: talking to a guy who has been filing the forty

684
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: nine ers for the past several years. But this season,

685
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: let alone, you don't have much sympathy for the injury bug.

686
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: But this Detroit Lions team is decimated with injuries. They've

687
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: got to find a way to beat the Green Bay

688
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: Packers and get to the long week because they're going

689
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: to have nine to ten days off to get healthy.

690
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: It's so crucial that they get to win this Thursday

691
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: and then they can rest up a little bit on

692
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: a mini half by week before Buffalo comes into town.

693
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Speaker 1: These next two games are going to mean a lot

694
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Speaker 1: for the division. Richard, who do you do you like

695
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: the Lions? Can you boost my confidence a little bit here?

696
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel good about what the Lions are going

697
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: to do. It's a division game, so even if you're

698
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: fully healthy, it's going to be a dogfight, So don't

699
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be an ugly just like every other

700
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: division game is going to be ugly. It's going to

701
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: be close. It's going to come down to the wire.

702
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: Do you trust your running backs and your offense to execute.

703
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: I think they're going to lean on the run game

704
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: with David Montgomery and Jamior Gibbs running a football. Your

705
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: boy Sam la Porter will have some matchups that he

706
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: can find. They don't bring a ton of pressure, but

707
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: when when Jeff Haffley does bring pressure, it usually gets

708
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: home and it usually is right on time. But this

709
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: offensive line, this is what they're built for. This is

710
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: your time to shine. That time of possession is going

711
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: to be the most important thing in this game. And

712
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: you just need that defense to get a few stops.

713
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: You need a few stops. You need them to drive

714
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: down the field getting the red zone. You need red

715
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: zone stops, you need third down stops, you need to

716
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: be masters on third down. Yes, they can score some points,

717
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: but again, Jordan Love can be really, really like all

718
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: pro level fantastic when he's threatening a needle and completing

719
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: some really outrageous passes that that very few quarterbacks can make.

720
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: But then you look on the other side and he'll

721
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: throw the ball to the other team a lot. And

722
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: the guys that are healthy. Talking about Kirby Joseph and

723
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: Brian Branch, your safeties, there's eleven picks between those two alone.

724
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: So if they can do what they've done all season.

725
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Kirby Joseph has seven, Brian Branch has four. If they

726
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: can do what they've done all season, then I think

727
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: he'll be fine. If they can just get one or

728
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: two turnovers, give that offense one or two extra possessions

729
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: to really grind that clock down and just get out

730
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: of here with a win, get you to that bye week.

731
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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be it's gonna be fun, fun day.

732
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: But this is a tough opponent and their defense can

733
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: turn the ball over. Xavier McKinney ended the program has

734
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: I think he has seven interceptions now and he finds

735
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: a way to get that ball. So Jared's gonna have

736
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: to be very careful putting the ball up around his

737
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: vicinity because he will come down with it. I'm sure

738
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: they'll they'll push the envelope some with Jamison Williams down

739
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: the field, but I'm in ross. Saint Brown will be

740
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: working that intermediary area, and so will Sam Laporter. But

741
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: I think Laporta and Jamier Gibbs are gonna have to

742
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: be the keys in that passing game this week for

743
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: you guys to come out with a win.

744
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Speaker 1: Richard I will be in attendance and you will be

745
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Speaker 1: there as well. That's this week's Thursday Night football preview,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by our friends and partners at Amazon

747
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Speaker 1: Prime Video. Make sure you guys tune in this Thursday

748
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: at seven pm to watch Richard in the Gang. I

749
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: hopefully I can get some screen time on there, Richard,

750
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: with in my seats, I'll be yelling my face off

751
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: goal lines. We'll see what happens there, Richard. Let's talk

752
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: about the AFC North. These Steelers. I mean, we've talked

753
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: about them enough, and they've certainly deserved to be so

754
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: prevalent in our conversations. But they've proven to so many

755
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: people how good Mike Tomlin is as a head coach.

756
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, not many folks thought that much of this

757
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: team coming into the season. Not many people knew it

758
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: was going to be to make of Justin Fields and

759
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. They've got a two game lead over the

760
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. I don't think a whole lot of folks

761
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: would have seen this company. Do you think that they

762
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: can hold off to Baltimore Ravens down the stretch with

763
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: this two game lead?

764
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: I do, I do, because the Baltimore Ravens just keeps

765
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: stumbling down the stretch and they have tough games coming up.

766
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: That loss to Philly was really, really, really damning to

767
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: their hopes of winning this division because that would have

768
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: gave him a chance. You know, I thought the Browns

769
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: beating this Pittsburgh Steelers really was a mulligan for the

770
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, like they gave them another opportunity. They were

771
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: right there still one game back, and then they lose

772
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: to the Philadelphia Eagle. Is a really tough game and

773
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: put themselves in a very difficult situation and they're not

774
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: in control of their own destiny. They're gonna need some help.

775
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: They're gonna need some Pittsburgh Steelers losses coming up in

776
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: the future for them to have a chance. But the

777
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers have done a phenomenal job and Mike Tomlin

778
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: has his hands all over it. He's just look at

779
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: these games when they needed the defense to play well

780
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: and keep the score low. The defense has played well,

781
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: kept the score low. When Russell Wilson's needed to do

782
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: more and have a career night, you know, second most

783
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: yards in his career, he scores forty four points when

784
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow scores thirty eight. Even when the defense is

785
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: having a tough night, they find a way to get turnovers.

786
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: You know. TJ. Watt is relentless. He's gonna find a

787
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: way to impact the game in some way. They find

788
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: a way to score on defense, and that's what's made

789
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: this season really special for the Pittsburgh Steelers George Pickens. Obviously,

790
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: Tomlin talks about his maturity level with some of these

791
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: penalties and just unnecessary things he does, but his talent

792
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: is undeniable. He's made huge, huge plays for this team,

793
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: especially on a deep ball. Calvin Austin has been a

794
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: revelation in the past game. Always been a speedy, you know,

795
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: return guy who can impact the game that way. But

796
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: this season, Russell Wilson has trusted him to put it

797
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: past the ball, given him the ball, give him opportunities

798
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: down the field, and he's really taken advantage of him.

799
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Speaker 2: So I don't see him catching them right now, you know,

800
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: with how well they're playing and on both sides of

801
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: the ball, when when one side struggles, the other side

802
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: usually picks up the weight. And they're going to be

803
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: a really tough out in the playoffs.

804
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Speaker 1: Let's take it to the NFC South, so we've got

805
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: really a two team battle between the Atlanta Falcons and

806
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Falcons have been struggling of reason.

807
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: They off to a six and three started lost three

808
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: in a row, and meanwhile, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have

809
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: overcome a lot of adversity, losing both Chris Godwin and

810
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and back to back weeks, but they've been

811
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: able to weather that injury storm and now one two

812
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: straight and tied it up with the Atlanta Falcons. The

813
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: momentum seems to be swinging to Tampa Bay. Do you

814
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: think Tampa can pull this off down the stretch? Yeah,

815
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 1: I mean Baker, Baker is a reason. Baker is doing

816
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: whatever is necessary to get the job done. And again

817
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Mike Evans comes back. Baker. They talked about it on

818
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: the broadcast. Baker knows exactly the amount of yards Mike

819
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Evans needs to get a thousand yards and he said

820
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: he needs ninety nine point two a game, I think

821
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: he said, and he's gonna make sure he gets it.

822
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Speaker 1: He had over one hundred and this game really incredible.

823
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: One hand catching the end zone and he just brings

824
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: so much gravity and he opens up so many things

825
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: in this offense. You've seen Bucky getting getting a lot

826
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: more space in a run game because Mike Evans is

827
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: back in the lineup, and even though he gets all

828
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: this attention, he still has one hundred yards eight catches. Defensively,

829
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Speaker 1: they got a veteran defense that's gonna make enough plays

830
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Speaker 1: when they need him, got banged up in the secondary.

831
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Speaker 1: Our guy Jordan Whitehead.

832
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: Out for the season with I think a torn pet

833
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: Mike Edwards, who just came back, a guy who's been

834
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: with Tampa for a while, they know him, one of

835
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: their favorite guys gets injured with a hamstring, and so

836
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 2: they have to overcome those things, and I think they'll

837
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: be fine. Richard.

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Speaker 1: This past week, Matt Eberflus got fired, I guess a

839
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. And there's a bunch of other

840
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: coaches that are on the hot seat right now. Brian

841
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: Dable with the Giants, Antonio Piers and Doug Peterson. All

842
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: these teams are two to ten. You know, I don't

843
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: know how much can be blamed on day Ball and

844
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Antonio Piers. A lot more of that looks at the

845
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: roster construction. Doug Peterson's been dealing with, you know, the

846
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: issues I think with Trevor Lawrence and other things in Jacksonville.

847
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: But who do you think of these three as the

848
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: first to go next?

849
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll just give him my opinions on it. I

850
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: don't think Brian Dave Ball needs to be fired. I

851
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: think I don't think he was giving a fair shot.

852
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: You signed Daniel Jones to a deal that is not

853
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: the quarterback he would pick. I don't think you know.

854
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure he makes the best of a situation with

855
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 2: what he's got. But like you said, roster construction has

856
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: been an issue, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

857
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: We all saw the behind the scenes videos talking about

858
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. Oh oh, he'll be fine. He won't get

859
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: the money and he won't have an impact, and people

860
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: don't do a running back. Well, he went somewhere else

861
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: and had an MVP season, and I'm sure Dave Bo

862
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: would love to have Saquon Barkley and his abilities on

863
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: this offense this year, along with everything else he didn't

864
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: have it. He made the best of the situation that

865
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: he had. They're gonna need to show up this offensive line. Unfortunately,

866
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence, arguably their best player, goes out with a

867
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: dissocated elbow. You lose your left tackle and just been

868
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: a rash of injuries. I think you have to start over,

869
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: and Dave Bo deserves the ability to come draft a

870
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: really good young quarterback and help him develop and run

871
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: an offense, pick a tailor made guy for his system

872
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: and then see how it goes. Get an offensive lineman

873
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: or two and free agency and then see how it goes.

874
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he deserves to be fired without seeing

875
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: how he would do with a young quarterback who's really

876
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: talented and that he picks.

877
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: And what about Antonio Peers. I mean, I feel like

878
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: it's almost the same story with him. He was the

879
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: interim head coach right last year and then ultimately took over,

880
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: and I think his background being a former player, really

881
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: rejuvenated that team. He brought a lot of energy and

882
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: you can tell he's an energetic coach that is very passionate.

883
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Do you think he is the right fit in Vegas.

884
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: I think he's the perfect fit in Vegas. I think

885
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: they they set him up for failure, and if you

886
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: fire him, it's such bs.

887
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: It's such bs because you didn't give him a good

888
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: enough team to do anything more than what they're doing.

889
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: They had the Kansas City Chiefs eleven and one number

890
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: one record in AFC on the ropes done for But

891
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: he's had to do this with Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell.

892
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: These aren't necessarily elite quarterbacks. They've done a really serviceable job.

893
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: They had Davonte for a little while, they traded him away.

894
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: You let Josh Jacobs go, and so you knew that

895
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: this this wasn't going to be an attractive job this

896
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: off last offseason. So did you just give it to

897
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce so that he could bite the bullet this season,

898
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: just to fire him until it was a more attractive position.

899
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: When you have a high draft pick and you can

900
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: get a quarterback of the future and you can you

901
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: can go move on like that. If they do that,

902
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: I'd be so pissed off because that's total bs. You

903
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: set the man up for failure, expected him to fail,

904
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: fired him for failing with no chance to Yeah, I

905
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: hope not. I hope. I don't think he sho should

906
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: be fired. Same situation when Dave Bowl, except he hasn't

907
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: gotten enough time to even build a team. I mean,

908
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: draft some really good players and and see what we

909
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: could do. So have a high draft pick this year,

910
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll get a quarterback. I'm sure they'll try

911
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: to attract some more playmakers on the defensive side of

912
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: the football. Helps help out your pass rush, help out

913
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: your offensive line and let's see what happens. But he

914
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: hasn't been given a fair shake. So if they fire

915
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: him without giving them a fair shake, then this was

916
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: just this is just a setup. This is a poison

917
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: peel setup job that you guys just wanted him to

918
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: bridge until they got a pick, until more attractive coaches

919
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: come come knocking at your door because you have the

920
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: number one or number two or number three pick of

921
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: the draft. So no, Doug Peterson, I mean, he's not

922
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: gonna fix Trevor Lawrence. Nothing's gonna fix him, and they're

923
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: gonna keep blaming him as long as he's there for

924
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence's shortcoming. So I mean, I think he should

925
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: go just just so that he doesn't have to continue

926
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: to deal with that because no matter what, that's what

927
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna do. They're gonna blame him when they lose.

928
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: And then if a new coach comes in, they'll and

929
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: a new you know, highly touted offensive court come in

930
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: and they struggle again, then people will start to finally say,

931
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: maybe the quarterback isn't isn't the guy.

932
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: What's going on at Jacksonville's just wild because this team

933
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: was in the playoffs a couple of years ago, they

934
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: were they were red hot. I mean I think there

935
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: was even a poll going into last season which organization

936
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: would you rather be the Jacksonville Jaguars or Detroit Lions,

937
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: And the majority of folks picked the Jaguars. So like

938
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: this team was set up for success too. You had

939
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: a high end quarterback and number one pick, you had

940
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: the other number one pick and Tevon Walker. They had

941
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: all these these guys that were supposed to blossom into

942
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: stars and they just haven't. And it's just been this

943
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: downward spiral and I don't know when they're going to

944
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: be able to rise back up. Rich They they've it's

945
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: so surprising to me. But point being, it's your to

946
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: echo you here. They're going to use Doug Peterson as

947
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: a shield. I mean, he's going to be the one

948
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: taking the blame for this, and ultimately I would not

949
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: be surprised at all to see him the next dominal

950
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: to fall in terms of coaching firings. Richard, let's move

951
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: on to buy or sell. I'm gonna it states some

952
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: statements of fact to you and then ask you to

953
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: buy or sell them. We've got some good ones to

954
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: go around. I'm gonna start with this. If you're a

955
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: head coach, the Bears job opening is an appealing one

956
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: bye or sell.

957
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: Bye bye bye bye, like like was it in sync

958
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: or was that Backstreet Boys?

959
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Bye bye? That was I think it was in sync?

960
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah bye, Well might have been Backstreets. That's what I'm saying.

961
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: We don't want to offend anybody. They have be careful.

962
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: Bye. It's really attractive job. They have good players on defense,

963
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: they have good players on offense. You got a quarterback

964
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: that's starting to figure it out. You just need some

965
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: structure in the system in place. Swift looked like a really,

966
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: really serviceable, good running back. Bye. I think I think

967
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: somebody can step in there and make them a playoff contender.

968
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: Right now, let's move to the Falcons with the struggle

969
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins, your boy Kirk. Oh, the Falcons should

970
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: start Michael pennockx Junior buy or sell.

971
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: Sale, sale, unless, unless we're trying to get people fired,

972
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: because if you're sitting fifty million dollars on the bench,

973
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: somebody gotta go. Somebody got to answer to that. And

974
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: not that Penix wouldn't be a you know, an upgrade

975
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: or whatever, but you're paying Kirk fifty million dollars to

976
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 2: play quarterback right now. He struggled with this game, Sure,

977
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: you got to stick with him. He's also thrown for

978
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: five hundred in a game, so you have to stick

979
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: with him. And if you concede that he's not the

980
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: guy right now, which I don't think is the right

981
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: way to go about it, somebody gotta go. Richard.

982
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold has the Minnesota Vikings out to a ten

983
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: and two start. I don't think many people saw this coming.

984
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: He is completely rejuvening his career. After bouncing around from

985
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: team to team over the last couple of seasons, it

986
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: seems like he's found a home in Minnesota. The problem

987
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: is Minnesota just spent a top first round pick and

988
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy who went down with the injury this year.

989
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's going to be a free agent at the

990
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: end of the season, is undoubtedly going to want to raise.

991
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: The Vikings.

992
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: Should give this man a raise and bring him back

993
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: by or sell bye bye.

994
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: You go with the known commodity over the potential unknown.

995
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: And I think he'll be fine, you know, I don't think. Yeah,

996
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what he'll ask for,

997
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: but I'm sure he won't. I'm not sure about anything,

998
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: because you deserve what we deserve. They go to the playoffs.

999
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: If they somehow make a deep run into the playoffs

1000
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: and you don't bring him back, that would sound pretty

1001
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: dumb to me. But we have to figure out what

1002
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: the number is. You know, is it thirty five million,

1003
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: is it forty million? Is it fifty million? Now? Is

1004
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: it a year to year d and you're just grooming

1005
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: McCarthy to replace him? But I don't think you go

1006
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: into the year next year with rehabbing McCarthy as your

1007
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: number one quarterback if you've made a deep playoff run

1008
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: with Sam Darnold, I think that would be a mistake.

1009
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, the team and the fans

1010
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: would want to see Sam Donald run it back again

1011
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: if they're able to do something in the playoffs. Now,

1012
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: if they have a first a one and done playoff run,

1013
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: who knows. You know, it's still been a pretty good season,

1014
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: a pretty successful season by most metrics, So I don't know.

1015
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: I think I think I buy that they should bring

1016
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: him back.

1017
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: We already talked about the Detroit Lions and their injuries.

1018
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: Richard they've faced tough opponents coming up. We've already discussed

1019
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: that too. Buy or sell. The Lions will not have

1020
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: the one seed in the NFC when all is sudden done.

1021
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: By no so so sell that, Sell that, Metchell, sell

1022
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: that because they're a tough team, but they're gonna be

1023
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: beat the crap one into the playoffs. They're gonna need

1024
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: to buy. They're gonna they're gonna work their behinds off

1025
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: to get it because with that schedule, it's just a

1026
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: rough and ragged season at the end, and then to

1027
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: end it with San Francisco in Minnesota.

1028
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: Minnesota, it's a galllet, it's a gollleut and and and

1029
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna be beat up.

1030
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: So I think they can find a way to get

1031
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: get it done. You know, I gotta go look at

1032
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: Philly's schedule and see who they have. I think they

1033
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: play the Commanders again, But yeah, I think they can

1034
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: figure out a way to win those games, especially if

1035
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: they win against Green Bay. I think they they'll have

1036
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: some answers for Buffalo. It's not in Buffalo, thank goodness,

1037
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: and and it's in Detroit that that'll change some things

1038
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: for me. I think they can go to Chicago and

1039
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: win the little turmoil going on there in San Francisco's

1040
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: you know, Ben beat up, but they'll probably be getting

1041
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: healthier at that point. Minnesota will be fighting for their

1042
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: lives at the end. So it's gonna be tough, but

1043
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: they can do it. It is gonna be tough, Richard.

1044
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: I feel like I know the answer to this one,

1045
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask it anyways. On we heard on

1046
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football to Night, Troy Aikman was talking about

1047
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: playing in the snow. We played one time in the

1048
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: snow when he played for Dallas, and he said it

1049
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: was the most funny has ever had. That was because

1050
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback and he said no one else

1051
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: could really move, so he was just doing his same

1052
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: thing and it was just a slower game. But Richard,

1053
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: I know you've had experience playing in the snow. I

1054
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: know you've had one game against Minnesota that probably was

1055
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: some of the worst conditions you've ever played in your life.

1056
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: But buy or sell playing football in the snow is

1057
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: indeed fun.

1058
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: Sell the heck out of that. Sell it all, sell

1059
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: it all, don't leave, don't leave any crumbs. I played corner,

1060
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: the hardest position on the field. So you're telling me

1061
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 2: it's the worst conditions. You can move in one slip

1062
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: and it's over, and you got to try to walk on.

1063
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: You got to try to ice skate and cover receivers

1064
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: that you don't know which direction they're going. They can

1065
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: turn on them die and if you make one mistake,

1066
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 2: it's over. Short quarterback, it's fun. Hey, they're not pass

1067
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: rushers can get there as quick. You probably get hit

1068
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: a lot less. Your receivers are running slow, so it's

1069
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: easier to hit them on the run. Cool. Not at

1070
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: my position. My position, it makes it even more stressful

1071
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: and even more chaotic. Sale.

1072
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: We'll have to take Troy Aikman up on that.

1073
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: Then, very sure.

1074
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: We got to move to your power ranks here. Man,

1075
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: this is the part of the show that I want

1076
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: it again. I'm giving you this Honolulu Blue watch for

1077
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: you to wear on Thursday and hope that you'll continue

1078
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: to show love to my team.

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Speaker 2: Richard.

1080
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: How do you stack them this week?

1081
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: This week, Mitchell, I'll go with your Honolulu Blue Detroit Lions.

1082
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: At one, I was lied to watch the Kansas City

1083
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: Chiefs play the Raiders. I don't think they should have

1084
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: won that game. But they did win that game, so

1085
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: what they should happen did happen. But I can't put

1086
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: them at two right there with that performance. I'll give

1087
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: Buffalo that nod even though they have two losses. In

1088
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: Kansas City only has one. I know people are gonna

1089
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: talk about that. Kansas City at three. Actually where am I? Yeah? Actually?

1090
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 2: Actually Philadelphia at three, Kansas City at four. Wow. Yeah,

1091
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: Philadelphia beating Baltimore was a big deal. So I'll put

1092
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: Philadelphia at three, Chiefs at four, Green Bay at fix

1093
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: so we can have a top five matchup in our

1094
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: power rankings this week.

1095
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure the Steelers fans in Minnesota fans will

1096
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: feel slighted, but we can't fit everyone in there that

1097
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: we can't.

1098
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: Feel everybody, and somebody will come out this week, somebody

1099
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: will fall through. Well, let's Desroit loses and they'll stay.

1100
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: But well, Richard, that concludes. That concludes week thirteen. Next

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: time I see you, we will be in Detroit. I

1102
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Speaker 1: know you got a guest on tomorrow. Richard sign us

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Speaker 1: off as we conclude week thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys for joining us again. Thank you guys,

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Speaker 2: everybody that's watching, Everybody that's watched any episodes. We really

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving and

1107
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: have a wonderful December. Play those Christmas gams, obviously starting

1108
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: with Mariah Carey. All I Want for Christmas is you.

1109
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: It has to be top of the playlist, but rocking

1110
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: around the Christmas Tree Brenda Lee has to be in

1111
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: there too. You know, you might want to put Silent

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Speaker 2: Night by the Temptations if you know what it s

1113
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Speaker 2: you're doing. But we appreciate you joining us. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: up button if you knew or you got to clue.

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