WEBVTT - Five Lingering Questions (For Dan)

0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal Hell that for me.

0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm a man, I'm forty.

0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:10.639
<v Speaker 1>be happy.

0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:12.080
<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for a day?

0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Edo steak?

0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that woo woom?

0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.080
<v Speaker 1>And then and tie.

0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.319
<v Speaker 2>name is ty hilden Brandt. That fine gentleman over there

0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:29.040
<v Speaker 2>in the heart of the Midwest, Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein,

0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Sure yeah, need a health check. I'm sorry.

0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Sinus watched twenty twenty two.

0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Sinus Watch twenty twenty two. How we doing?

0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm all right. I can't complain, Tye. There's a lot

0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that's going on in the world that makes me feel

0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.200
<v Speaker 1>extremely fortunate. And if the worst thing I have going

0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.240
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit of a boo boo in my

0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.000
<v Speaker 1>my sinuses, and right, yeah, a sinus boo boo. You know,

0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm pumping the fluids. I'm trying to sleep, I'm trying

0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to lay down. I'm gonna go get some soup for lunch. Uh.

0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the off season, so we get to get weird,

0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.920
<v Speaker 1>we get to get fun. So I do this for

0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.360
<v Speaker 1>a living. I can't even begin to complain to.

0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Me well, look, today we are going to pick up

0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.920
<v Speaker 2>where we left off. Yeah, on the show we did

0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.120
<v Speaker 2>earlier in this week, you had five questions for me

0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.080
<v Speaker 2>and then a couple to try and make me uncomfortable.

0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, as you often do.

0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I have five questions for you and then some that

0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>probably won't make you nearly as uncomfortable, but are intended

0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.280
<v Speaker 2>to prod a little bit deeper.

0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>You you told me no pizza and no relationship questions,

0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and that really kind of hurt that, really like you

0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to steer into what I consider to be

0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.160
<v Speaker 1>my wheelhouse as a non pizza rea owner and as

0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a non licensed relationship expert. But that's okay.

0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the off sets some good college football question

0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.800
<v Speaker 2>We're trying to broaden your horizons dance. We'll get into

0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.680
<v Speaker 2>all that and much much more. We appreciate your support

0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.320
<v Speaker 2>throughout this long, cold dolgrums of an off season, but

0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.560
<v Speaker 2>it is starting to warm up various quadrants of the country.

0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.880
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you stuff and on by, don't forget to

0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.440
<v Speaker 2>subscribe to the show. Listen the whole way through right

0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.960
<v Speaker 2>in at Saliverboat gmail dot com. Let us know if

0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you have any thoughts or feedback or questions, what have

0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you things that we should cover as we progress here

0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.920
<v Speaker 2>through the off season. We always welcome that feedback. Verballers

0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.920
<v Speaker 2>dot Com, of course, is where you can find all

0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.040
<v Speaker 2>of our bonus content that get access to this show,

0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.640
<v Speaker 2>all of our shows a little bit early. We also

0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.000
<v Speaker 2>video all of these shows, so not only can you

0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.680
<v Speaker 2>hear Dan's gravelly voice, but you can also see the

0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.160
<v Speaker 2>sites of fatherhood if you go to verballers dot com.

0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Wait, see the sites of Fatherhood. I'm I'm wearing this

0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.919
<v Speaker 1>exhaustion on my face, a little bit d in HD,

0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.639
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit fair. That's okay, that's real, that's real.

0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean at certain points we all wear our lives

0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.679
<v Speaker 1>on our faces. And you had a mysterious day job

0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:58.359
<v Speaker 1>that left you physically not your best, and so yeah,

0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.840
<v Speaker 1>here we are. I'm I'm I've had better days physically,

0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.600
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna I'm we're starting our strength training, our

0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.680
<v Speaker 1>dual strength training together and maybe that's going to uh,

0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna it's gonna really up our looks in ten ADP.

0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.679
<v Speaker 1>If not four k ty, I'm willing to go four kay.

0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've got the internet for four K,

0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:16.360
<v Speaker 2>but I'm willing to try.

0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, we can record it at it.

0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm good with that last banally solid giveaway dot Com.

0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:27.040
<v Speaker 2>We've got a new item up for the contest. It

0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.079
<v Speaker 2>is an AJ brownstegned old Miss Minnie helmet. So I'll

0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.760
<v Speaker 2>giveaway dot com a few quick and easy steps. That's

0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.640
<v Speaker 2>all you need to go through to get your name

0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:41.240
<v Speaker 2>in the hat. Oh lest I forget this show. All

0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.960
<v Speaker 2>of our shows driven by our good friends over at Geico. Yes,

0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.920
<v Speaker 2>we appreciate their support. Dan, all right, with all that

0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.440
<v Speaker 2>out of the way, do you just want me to

0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:53.560
<v Speaker 2>dive into my questions?

0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is there any news you want to discuss?

0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Adidas is apparently opening up the nil coffers. Did you

0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:59.040
<v Speaker 1>see that?

0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw the headline? What does that mean for us

0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.120
<v Speaker 2>as college football fans?

0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:11.200
<v Speaker 1>That means Adidas schools will have opportunities with their athletes

0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:16.240
<v Speaker 1>across various sports to become essentially Adidas influencers. And I'm

0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.000
<v Speaker 1>sure the bigger athletes with the bigger social followings, with

0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the bigger public awareness Q ratings will be front and center.

0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.400
<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, Adidas huge company and going to proverbial bat

0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.240
<v Speaker 1>for Adidas schools, So that was a reality. I think

0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.760
<v Speaker 1>we're all prepared for. I know Nike has already jumped

0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.200
<v Speaker 1>into things, especially with Oregon and NIL and set up

0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it's called Division Street, which provides opportunity NIL opportunities,

0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.000
<v Speaker 1>so sort of part for the course. I think we're

0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.680
<v Speaker 1>going to see more companies jumping through it. I saw,

0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Saint Peter's some guard for Saint Peter's,

0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I think has a Buffalo Wild Wings deal after they

0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.240
<v Speaker 1>upset Kentucky, which is really like to me, the spirit

0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:02.080
<v Speaker 1>of things with NIL, where you know, all athletes that

0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you know have a certain degree of visibility should be

0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.279
<v Speaker 1>able to capitalize on that, but especially ones that sort

0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of become overnight names, that are able to capitalize on

0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:17.520
<v Speaker 1>moments on becoming sensations. And so yeah, it seems seems

0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:18.840
<v Speaker 1>like a big win. And I'm sure we're going to

0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.760
<v Speaker 1>get into it with some of your questions, but yeah,

0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Adidas officially jumping into the fold.

0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I saw that, Nico. I'm not even gonna try the

0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:28.200
<v Speaker 2>last name.

0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Yam a Lava, Yama Lava something like that.

0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks like I am a Leavin And indeed

0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:39.520
<v Speaker 2>he did spurning the spurning some other programs that were

0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:45.880
<v Speaker 2>associated with his recruitment and decides to go to Tennessee. Now,

0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.599
<v Speaker 2>there was some scuttle butt about the trust whatever we're

0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.720
<v Speaker 2>calling that, the trust, the collective, Yeah, that the collective,

0:05:54.120 --> 0:06:00.919
<v Speaker 2>the eight million dollar potential sure for Nico, an unnamed Nico,

0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess still unnamed Nico, but we all know it's him.

0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Regardless of all, that a pretty big yet for Josh Hypel.

0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Huge, humongous for Tennessee. And I assume, you know, the

0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.919
<v Speaker 1>hope is to build around him with offensive linemen and

0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.200
<v Speaker 1>receivers who are seeing the explosivity of Josh Hypel's system,

0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, sending receivers deep, really going for playing with pace.

0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.200
<v Speaker 1>It's an exciting brand of football, for sure. And that

0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.279
<v Speaker 1>was just year one last year with a with a

0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.000
<v Speaker 1>transfer quarterback and Hendon Hooker. So yeah, it's obvious that

0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.279
<v Speaker 1>there is an interesting ceiling for Tennessee. The nil stuff.

0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to pretend like I understand the intricacies

0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.400
<v Speaker 1>of the deal he signed. I'm sure that eight million

0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.520
<v Speaker 1>figure is a best case scenario. Yeah, right, But I

0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's a market setting figure. I don't

0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.520
<v Speaker 1>know how that figures to affect a big defensive tackle

0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.400
<v Speaker 1>or a big corner or a big receiver or other

0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.360
<v Speaker 1>SEC schools, SEC schools. It's going to be all over

0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the place, but that it is an interesting parameter to

0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the market for a five star quarterback, of which there

0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.000
<v Speaker 1>are a couple of other big ones. Malachi Nelson's committed

0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to USC and Arch Manning is the other big fish

0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and he remains uncommitted, And I think about Georgia, Alabama,

0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Texas appear to be the big players as of the

0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.800
<v Speaker 1>time of recording in his recruitment. I won't pretend like

0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I am fully up to date on the class of

0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:25.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, but in terms of where the market is,

0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.000
<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating. It'll correct itself. Maybe it's low. Who knows,

0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Nico will be a Heisman caliber quarterback and it'll

0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.960
<v Speaker 1>prove he'll prove to be more of a fifteen million

0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.720
<v Speaker 1>dollar type quarterback with how much he brings in and

0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.440
<v Speaker 1>how much better recruiting classes are, with how much he

0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.200
<v Speaker 1>gets Tennessee boosters excited about donating to the school and

0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.000
<v Speaker 1>more enrollment into the school. There's all sorts of, you know,

0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.560
<v Speaker 1>different tentacles to a successful football team within a university.

0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.160
<v Speaker 1>So hoping for the best for him. Disappointed as an

0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Oregon fan and maybe we'll get into Oregon a little

0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.200
<v Speaker 1>bit later on. But appointed as an organ fan. And

0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you this as a Duck fan, I

0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:09.000
<v Speaker 1>could very easily say, psh, what does college football come to?

0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Oregon lost out on a West Coast quarterback because of

0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:17.120
<v Speaker 1>booster money. But if Oregon had secured him, my reaction

0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.480
<v Speaker 1>would have been like, psh, it's college football in twenty

0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:19.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty two.

0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Get with the program, everybody program? Yeah yeah, so.

0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.040
<v Speaker 1>No, I I am nothing if not a fan of

0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.600
<v Speaker 1>high level college football. Hopefully that comes across and a

0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.720
<v Speaker 1>strong Tennessee would be a fun thing to watch given

0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the style that they're going to be playing with.

0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Two other items very quickly that I think warrant mentioning.

0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we've discussed either. Yeah, Ulysses Bentley.

0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, where did he end up? What?

0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss?

0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.600
<v Speaker 2>He's going Ole Miss. So, in case you haven't been

0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.720
<v Speaker 2>paying attention, Lane Kiffin has put together a nice little

0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.640
<v Speaker 2>roster of transfers. Yeah, portal king, he's been the portal king.

0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.400
<v Speaker 2>First it was Jackson Dart and Zach Evans. Now adding

0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Ulysses Bentley the fourth to the equation, Yeah, is pretty

0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.839
<v Speaker 2>damn interesting. Certainly they've got options in the backfield now,

0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, just infinitely curious to see how Lane uses

0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.400
<v Speaker 2>both those guys. It'd be very interesting.

0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the big story with Old Miss last year

0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.520
<v Speaker 1>was the the direction of the defense is heading in

0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.079
<v Speaker 1>because for all the points Ole Miss can and will

0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.280
<v Speaker 1>certainly always score, given the talent on offense and on

0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the offensive coaching staff, they don't want to be playing

0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.439
<v Speaker 1>that Arkansas game every week. They don't want to be

0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.600
<v Speaker 1>playing fifty three to fifty two every week. And so

0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it's terrific that these guys are coming in because there's

0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.840
<v Speaker 1>every reason to given how you'll be featured in that

0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.320
<v Speaker 1>offense as a running back, as a receiver, quarterback, whatever.

0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's the curiosity about the defense. They

0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.680
<v Speaker 1>lose DJ Dirkin, right, he goes over to Texas A

0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and M. So no, it'll it'll be fascinating because Lane

0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Kiffin is somebody who will stay current with how to

0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.360
<v Speaker 1>acquire players, how to build rosters. He is not going

0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to follow the Dabbo model of this is the way

0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I do things and this is how I'm going to

0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.040
<v Speaker 1>do things moving forward, even though Dabbo has now talked

0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.560
<v Speaker 1>about more flexibility in terms of roster construction.

0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.839
<v Speaker 2>And last, but certainly not least, Emery Jones go into

0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:24.280
<v Speaker 2>the portal, saw that. Yeah, it originally looked as if

0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.920
<v Speaker 2>he were going to stay. Billy Napier encouraged him to stay,

0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:32.880
<v Speaker 2>but ultimately Emory Jones decides he wants to go quote

0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.080
<v Speaker 2>to a stable place that will welcome me, is excited

0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.360
<v Speaker 2>to have me there and the right situation and fit.

0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.960
<v Speaker 2>He told that to ESPN and a phone interview this

0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:47.800
<v Speaker 2>past weekend. Speculation has been that ASU could be a

0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.560
<v Speaker 2>landing spot for him, if only because there was a

0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.160
<v Speaker 2>sudden following of Emory Jones on social media by some

0:10:55.320 --> 0:11:00.280
<v Speaker 2>at ASU. There were some other schools that also followed, dude.

0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I think Rice and Arkansas State North Texas smaller programs

0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.160
<v Speaker 2>by comparison to ASU. But Emory Jones is a kid

0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.880
<v Speaker 2>who's played for Florida. I don't know if he's quite

0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.400
<v Speaker 2>lived up to the hype that he brought with them

0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.080
<v Speaker 2>when was originally flipped by Dan Mullen. Ye'll come down

0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.240
<v Speaker 2>to Gainesville. But nonetheless still a name out there, you'd

0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.600
<v Speaker 2>have to think, if you're ASU, it's appealing, if only

0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.360
<v Speaker 2>because they're so damn finnick quarterback, You'll take whatever you

0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:28.760
<v Speaker 2>can get.

0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.560
<v Speaker 1>M h. Yeah, And of course BILLI and Napier had

0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.319
<v Speaker 1>his own history at ASU, one of the places that

0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.800
<v Speaker 1>helped to jump start his career, so interesting connection there.

0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Also saw JT. Daniels still out there. I think both

0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Emery Jones and JT. Daniels were in a similar situation

0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.280
<v Speaker 1>where they wanted to graduate first. They just they had

0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.720
<v Speaker 1>a limited number of credits left and so they wanted

0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to finish out the winter semester. So JT. Daniels down

0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to at the least time of recording, West Virginia, Oregon

0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.080
<v Speaker 1>State and MISSOI I don't know if you have that

0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.560
<v Speaker 1>in front of you, all interesting fits. Of course, Johnathan

0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Smith has done a very good job with quarterbacks. West

0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Virginia certainly certainly in need of better quarterback play. I

0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.360
<v Speaker 1>know they've got a freshman they're pretty high on, but

0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in terms of experience and upside, JT. Daniels certainly brings that.

0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Miszoo obviously losing Connor bayslack to I believe Indiana God,

0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.679
<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep track of a lot in twenty twenty two.

0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:23.280
<v Speaker 1>But they themselves have intriguing, young, unproven quarterbacks in the future,

0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.760
<v Speaker 1>so a year of JT. Daniels postgraduate might not be

0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.679
<v Speaker 1>the worst thing for Miszoo, especially with how they've been

0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.040
<v Speaker 1>building things out on offense. They just landed what the

0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.080
<v Speaker 1>number one or two receiver in the country and Luther

0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Burden in this last class, so two pretty big names

0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.120
<v Speaker 1>out there looking to certainly improve what a quarterback room

0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.800
<v Speaker 1>looks like at a number of places.

0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, Dan, shall we dive into questions?

0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, let's do it.

0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Let's dive in. I dusted off that sound. I finally

0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.840
<v Speaker 2>got my sounds ready to go here. I am excited.

0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.520
<v Speaker 2>These are thank you. These are five questions that I've

0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.680
<v Speaker 2>had on my mind that I've been wanting to ask you.

0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I jotted them down. Yeah, but I haven't been able to.

0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.439
<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot to talk about it as a

0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.720
<v Speaker 2>lot going on. Sure, so we're gonna take this week.

0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:20.200
<v Speaker 2>It's for us. It's our time, Dan, question number one

0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:26.559
<v Speaker 2>College football in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty two. Yeah,

0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.120
<v Speaker 2>would you agree that it feels a little bit different

0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:30.560
<v Speaker 2>than it has in the past.

0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Uh, it feels uniquely different. Sure, I was.

0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Gonna say, just agree with me. I'm going somewhere with this.

0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm with you. Yes, it feels different.

0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.160
<v Speaker 2>We have nil we have we just read off news

0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.240
<v Speaker 2>about the transfer portal.

0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.040
<v Speaker 1>It's still going.

0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:49.199
<v Speaker 2>We have coaching changes. Conference realignment felt like an eternity

0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.480
<v Speaker 2>ago Texas and Oklahoma and then the Big Twelve. It's

0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.560
<v Speaker 2>like a whole thing. It's going on out there. And

0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what that means. You've been around the media

0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:02.760
<v Speaker 2>game for quite some time. That means hot takes. Yeah,

0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I means hot takes oftentimes very bad opinions out there

0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.360
<v Speaker 2>floating around the internet.

0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And by the way, one thing you forgot is

0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.480
<v Speaker 1>just the availability of games. That games are so much

0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.800
<v Speaker 1>more available in a more complicated way, sometimes with streaming,

0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.760
<v Speaker 1>oh ye, with announcers bouncing all over now too, and

0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.160
<v Speaker 1>so there's a lack of familiarity and yeah, and that's

0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.480
<v Speaker 1>affecting things in terms of realignment and TV deals and yeah,

0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it's all over the place that there is a certain

0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.400
<v Speaker 1>amount of commercialization and millions upon millions, if not gotting

0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.040
<v Speaker 1>into the billions of dollars in the sport that you

0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.560
<v Speaker 1>know it. It brings about opinions.

0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's say I want to know which popular opinion? Yeah,

0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:48.760
<v Speaker 2>which hot take that you Dan Rubinstein mostly believes. Is

0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:54.080
<v Speaker 2>BS something that you're tired of hearing? It seems to

0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.520
<v Speaker 2>have gone somewhat mainstream. Right, you're not buying it, you're

0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.880
<v Speaker 2>not into it, And you can't answer the playoff. You

0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.280
<v Speaker 2>can't answer the playoff because everybody knows where you stand

0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:03.560
<v Speaker 2>on that.

0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's fine. What do you think? So you're

0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.360
<v Speaker 1>asking me? Given the state of things, people's hot takes

0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.720
<v Speaker 1>are all over the place with college football? Which hot take?

0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'm a big proponent of naming names. I don't

0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.200
<v Speaker 1>know if you have any names that you want to

0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.560
<v Speaker 1>throw out who takes? No, I don't necessarily have. I

0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.520
<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot of smart people who are Again,

0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the names I wish I did. I'm

0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a fan of naming names. But there appears to be

0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a sentiment. There appears to be a sentiment of college

0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.800
<v Speaker 1>football is not ruined. Like I'm gonna zag with this, right,

0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.400
<v Speaker 1>there's like a fan sentiment that all of this nil

0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and transfer portal is ruining college football. And then there's

0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:52.040
<v Speaker 1>pushback from writers that it's essentially this. Everybody always cries wolf,

0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody always says something's going to ruin college football. But

0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.880
<v Speaker 1>college football has always been changing. College football always has

0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.640
<v Speaker 1>new quirks and wrinkles and movement across the sport, and

0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you're still going to watch. My pushback is the fear

0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of fans is warranted. So this is sort of a

0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 1>backlash to the backlash. I don't even know what I'm

0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.840
<v Speaker 1>doing right here. I am saying I think we should

0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 1>be taking not the people who are crying wolf, not

0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the people who are saying the sport is being ruined.

0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.120
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is there are people for which nil

0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:32.800
<v Speaker 1>for which the over commercialization, for which the transfer portal,

0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>with players moving all over the place, coaches moving all

0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.760
<v Speaker 1>over the place, that this is a tipping point for

0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.200
<v Speaker 1>some people. I still think they're going to watch people

0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.760
<v Speaker 1>who are turned off by the realities of college football.

0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I think there are going to be people, a not

0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>insignificant percentage of people. Also, you could add in like

0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the dominance by a very small select group within the

0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.360
<v Speaker 1>sport that brings about hot takes, not even necessarily with

0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the playoff, just be like college football sort of the

0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.160
<v Speaker 1>same thing every year, right, it's Alabama against too LSU

0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.400
<v Speaker 1>against Clemson against Ohio State, whatever. So people push back

0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:10.439
<v Speaker 1>with that. I think fans who are raising these concerns

0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.600
<v Speaker 1>about the changes being too dramatic to the sport, I

0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.680
<v Speaker 1>think there's something to it. I don't think college football

0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.240
<v Speaker 1>is bulletproof. I think football as a sport is in

0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good place in terms of fan interest, but

0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.240
<v Speaker 1>that's mostly because of the NFL. I don't care about

0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.520
<v Speaker 1>TV ratings. I don't really care about attendance. There's all

0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>sorts of metrics that you can use. I'm saying it

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:36.080
<v Speaker 1>would be foolish to ignore people raising these concerns right now,

0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of writers are ignoring these concerns.

0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of writers are saying players have

0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.600
<v Speaker 1>played for free and haven't been able to monetize and

0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to do this, or that players haven't

0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:52.120
<v Speaker 1>had the freedom of movement, and whether right or wrong,

0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I think people that are raising these concerns, fans of

0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever team, fans of big teams, small teams, whatever, I

0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.199
<v Speaker 1>think they should be listened to. I think there is

0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.399
<v Speaker 1>something about the sport and We've talked about this before,

0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and I know I keep cutting you off as you

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.159
<v Speaker 1>begin to talk. No, it's fine. There's something about the

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:15.200
<v Speaker 1>sport that has become regularly anti fan, which I think

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.120
<v Speaker 1>is a problem. And I think the thing that we've

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 1>talked about before is college football in two thousand and

0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.960
<v Speaker 1>five was pretty difficult to follow. In twenty twenty two,

0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.679
<v Speaker 1>you have to be dedicated to following the sport and

0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the intricacies of movement, both of teams, coaches, players, what

0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.960
<v Speaker 1>nil deals mean or don't mean, and all of the

0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.919
<v Speaker 1>legislation around the sport. You need to stay current with

0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it or you will be left behind. And that's kind

0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of an anti mainstream fan sentiment, which I don't think

0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:49.920
<v Speaker 1>is the healthiest thing for the sport. I don't know

0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.879
<v Speaker 1>what it means. I just don't think college football is

0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.040
<v Speaker 1>especially pro fan.

0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It means you should go to solid verbal dot com.

0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Click the subscribe link we do for episodes per week

0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.399
<v Speaker 2>all throughout the off season. YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah right.

0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I also don't think it's a binary choice.

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:08.600
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not.

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.520
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like, oftentimes I'll stick with you on

0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:17.960
<v Speaker 2>this point, oftentimes raising concerns unintentionally puts you on the

0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:23.719
<v Speaker 2>side of being anti something. Sure, right, fans have concerns

0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.440
<v Speaker 2>about Nil. Maybe you're an Akron fan.

0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.639
<v Speaker 2>We just mentioned a few minutes ago. Iye, you're an

0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Akron fan, and maybe NIL. All this stuff coming out

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.679
<v Speaker 2>the transfer portal that scares the crap out of you,

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 2>because not only can some of those players potentially be

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.159
<v Speaker 2>siphoned away from your program b Lord by other programs

0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.399
<v Speaker 2>in the area that might have some moerey to throw,

0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.679
<v Speaker 2>but also if you do get to the stage where you,

0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.800
<v Speaker 2>let's say, develop a legitimate pro prospect at defensive end

0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 2>or running back or wide receiver or quarterback, now suddenly

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.480
<v Speaker 2>there's an immediate market elsewhere at a bigger place for

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:03.639
<v Speaker 2>their services. Understand that fans perspective, though, I think those

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.479
<v Speaker 2>concerns does not necessarily mean the fan is anti change.

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 2>It just means that they're got real concerns, and.

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I hear it.

0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I don't like labeling folks as being anti

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.400
<v Speaker 2>when they bring up valid.

0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Points That said.

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess the counter argument would be, there's so

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.679
<v Speaker 2>much money in this damn thing, we don't really care

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 2>what you think it's going to change whether you like

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:31.399
<v Speaker 2>it or not. And so that may also emphasize the

0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 2>second part of your point about college football becoming a

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:35.080
<v Speaker 2>little bit more anti fan.

0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, I just and look, there is no college football.

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>There is no entity making decisions. That's not the NC DOUBLEA,

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.199
<v Speaker 1>it's not the College Football Playoff. It's just the idea

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of the sport as a whole has gotten further and

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>further away from making it easy to consume. And so

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.760
<v Speaker 1>that's again Soliverble dot com. Please do subscribe and follow

0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and do whatever you need to do on your subscribe

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:05.360
<v Speaker 1>your subscription service. But I think there is that sentiment

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.400
<v Speaker 1>among writers, whether they work for ESPN or the athletic

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 1>or sports illustrator whatever, that like, players finally have a voice,

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and they can finally have the ability to make money,

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and they finally have an ability to move around. I

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.480
<v Speaker 1>don't disagree with the upside of any of that. But again,

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.359
<v Speaker 1>it's not amazing for the sport as a whole to

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.399
<v Speaker 1>have year by year dramatic movement across the sport because

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.199
<v Speaker 1>college football is the size of a professional sport but

0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>does not have similar contracts and representation as the NFL,

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.440
<v Speaker 1>as the NBA, as the NHL as Major League Baseball,

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and so there is a structure, unfair as it may

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 1>be to a lot of those sports, there is an

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.360
<v Speaker 1>understood structure to how and when players and not coaches,

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but players can move around. And so this is all

0:21:55.600 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 1>so very new that a lot of writers. Again, whether

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>it's Andy Stables, Nicole Hourback or Ari Wassmer, any of

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>these people, I don't know, but there is that sentiment

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that says, relax, you're still gonna watch football. And I

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 1>overwhelmingly true, because people are kind of sick of trying

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and sick of being told the college football playoff or

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.400
<v Speaker 1>recruiting is the most important thing, and that there nine

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.919
<v Speaker 1>to three season of the seven and five season. They

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 1>should just be happy with that and then see their

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>star linebacker transfer to a bigger school and see their

0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 1>star quarterback transfer. Look, both of our schools have been

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the beneficiaries. You're both of our quarterbacks. Our team's quarterbacks

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 1>were transfers from other schools. Oregon bigger than Boston College.

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Of course, the biggest Oregon transfer quarterback in recent in

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:56.639
<v Speaker 1>recent history came from Eastern Washington. But it's a reality

0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.040
<v Speaker 1>that is not super appealing to the masses to me

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>from what I can tell, and so don't know how

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you fix it. But that's the take of everything will

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.440
<v Speaker 1>be fine, You'll still watch football.

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 2>It's the meme of the dog in the burning house.

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not that drastic, but right, I think that's what

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 2>you're pointing out.

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's more important to listen to fans,

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:26.200
<v Speaker 1>reasonable smart fans, raising these concerns than where we collectively

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:27.439
<v Speaker 1>as people who cover the sport do.

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I will tell you, you know, just through the off

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>season and through some of the stuff that I've been

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 2>reading to keep myself current on college football, the one

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 2>point that I think is emphasized and re emphasized, and

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.479
<v Speaker 2>if ever there were any doubt, you shouldn't because college

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 2>football is just built a little bit differently. Right, The

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>power of the rivalry in college football. Yeah, the power

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.479
<v Speaker 2>of the rivalry in college football is still the engine

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 2>that makes this whole thing go. Sure, and you know,

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:04.640
<v Speaker 2>whether it's a Texas and Texas, A and m thing

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.239
<v Speaker 2>or Pitt and Penn State, or you know, I don't know.

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 2>There are plenty of rivalries that have fallen by the

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.919
<v Speaker 2>wayside over the years. You know, I hope whatever we

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>do that that is committed to memory because we didn't

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>lose that. We just can't lose that aspect of college football.

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It really is what makes it unique and special.

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>It's even the second tier rivalries too, right, It's it's

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>there's a shared history between Mississippi State and Florida, between

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Oregon and Washington State, between Michigan State Penn State, which

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>is let's what the Langrand Trophy, that is a true

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>rivalry game sort of there is. There's that even Notre

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Dame Stanford when Stanford's good, there's that shared history of like,

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>oh man, remember that game three years ago that was wild.

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.959
<v Speaker 1>I remember Christian McCaffrey went wild running. Like there is

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>something about even those second tier rivalries that we lose it.

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you one hundred percent on that, and you know,

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>on prope playoff, but I will say you know that

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 2>that is the guts of college football. That is what

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>makes this special. Any fan who tells you differently doesn't

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>know what they're talking about. The rivalries are ultimately what

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 2>power this thing. So all right, yeah, let's get to

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 2>question numeroal dos.

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it.

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>You got into this business on your own free will, Dan,

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>That's true. Happily you sent out tapes, you hustled. You

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>eventually became the SI tour guy m SI being Sports Illustrated.

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and seven, eight nine. And I did it

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>independently in two thousand and six.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I went around to a bunch of different college

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 2>football stadiums.

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't just college.

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Football, you did other events too, But yep, you know,

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>college football is really where it started for you, and

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>you had the privilege of going to a bunch of

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the pre eminent college football cathedrals, let's say true around

0:25:56.359 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>our great nation. So much talk on this show many

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 2>other shows, is what's the best stadium you've ever been to?

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>What's the coolest game day environment? Oh, it's the grove,

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 2>it's the it's state college. What's the worst game day experience?

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Just bathing in the jacuzzi of negativity here, Tyhu, you

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>just listen.

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>You've had a two month sinus infection at this point.

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 2>If we went a little darker, we're trying to vibe

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 2>with you.

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Just work with me. Okay, So I'll say this. When

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you say stadium, you want to say in game, like

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>within the stadium or the overall experience, because the SI

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Tour Guide show was built around tailgating and culture around

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 1>game day, not just how it is inside of a stadium.

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.719
<v Speaker 2>You can you can answer this however you want, Okay,

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>however you want, I'll take either or both, Okay.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>So there are a number of factors here, right, There's

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>like how fun was it to tailgate? How fun was

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it to spend time in this college town, which I

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to do all the time, because there are

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>certain like even South Bend, and like flew because I

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>was living in La flew into Chicago, drove to South

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Bend for the game, drove back to Chicago, And so

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't stay overnight in South Bend, and I didn't

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>stay overnight in a lot of places just because of flying.

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>In travel convenience, the most inconvenient travel to get to

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a game was is clear to me, and that's Penn State.

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Penn State was the absolute worst place to get to

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>from Los Angeles because basically I did want to take

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 1>connecting flights, so I had to fly to Pittsburgh or Philly.

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Flew to Pittsburgh and drove the most miserable stretch of

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>a state I've ever driven. And this is nothing to

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>do with the people of Western PA or Central Pa

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>or what the cities, the towns, whatever. It's just dark

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and miserable and not wide lan like. It's just a

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>miserable travel experience to drive to and from I guess

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>from Pittsburgh to State College and back. That was awful.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Beaver Stadium was quite fun. There was a wide variety

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of persons outside, like I don't know if you tailgate

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>on the cow pastures. I don't know what that situation

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>is in State College, but State College probably had or

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 1>that specific tailgate probably had the widest variance in these

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>people are awesome and these people are terrible and I

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>want to get away from them. And the only other

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 1>place that I had that sort of dramatic variance in

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>fans whor I was like, these people are great, I'm

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>so glad I came across them tailgating, and I need

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to get away from these humans as quickly as humanly possible.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Was Tennessee. Really Now, I went to a Tennessee Florida game,

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and I got to go to Niland and I was

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.239
<v Speaker 1>on the field and I got to see I think

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it was a checkerboard game of some kind. It was incredible.

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>The experience inside Beaver Stadium at Penn State and the

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>experience inside Neeland were both terrific. But those are the

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>places with the widest variants of fans where I'm like,

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>these people are horrific and I want to get away.

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I assume you can empathize a little bit with that.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Penn State's an enormous school, so of course you're going

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>to get people that rub you that way, right.

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's sort of a perfect cross section between Philly

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>fans and Pittsburgh fans. There's a pretty heavy New York influences.

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Well I would say New York, New Jersey probably, yeah.

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, it's it's understandable, to say the least.

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's more travel and fans I was. There are

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.239
<v Speaker 1>places that I was definitely surprised by how much I

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>liked the stadium experience, Like I went into it probably

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>too negatively. Like I had a really good time at

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Iowa and Iowa City. The tailgate wasn't anything special. I'll

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>tell you the most the two most disappointing places, and

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it's the context is important here. The two most disappointing

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>places were probably Clemson in West Virginia. I had a

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>great time in the tailgates at Clemson in West Virginia,

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>but the games themselves, I had heard so much about

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Death Valley and they're running, you know, the Robin Howard's

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>rock and running down the hill and all that stuff. Clemson,

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to say two thousand and eight, and this

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>may have just been the tail end of Tommy Bowden

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>or he was already fired and Dabble was the interim.

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.719
<v Speaker 1>They played Maryland, maybe Danny O'Brien Maryland in two thousand

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and eight, and it was just not a great game.

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>It was an early kickoff and it was just the

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>energy was not all that great. And Clemson's not an

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 1>especially easy place to get to from LA. But that's

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a me thing that doesn't matter for you know, Clemson

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>as a whole. But this was Clemson before it was Clemson.

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have an amazing time. I really liked hanging

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>out in the town of Clemson in the tailgate and

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia was another early kick had a great time

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>with Mountaineer fans. Drank like moonshine at nine forty four

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>am or something like that it was a big East

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>game against Rutgers. And this is probably eight, so I

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>think Pat White was still there. Pat McAfee was still there.

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And it was like a very ho hum like twenty

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>four seventeen, twenty seven to seventeen game, and it was early.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>The crowd wasn't especially into it. I almost fell asleep

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:03.239
<v Speaker 1>in the press box again a me thing, but I

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>came away. Look, if I had gone to that, the

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the Honey Badger LSU West Virginia game that was like

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a yellow out, if you remember, I would have had

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a stellar time at West Virginia. This was just the

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>choice of game I went to, though, so this is

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>more on me than it is on West Virginia, more

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>on Clemson. But those were those were two memories where

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, early kick, not a lot of energy, not

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of juice. I don't know, not into it.

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Every school has them, that's just those are the games

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that I happened to go to. I at Penn State,

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I went to a big game that was a Notre

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Dame Jimmy classon game. That was what that was how

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>we met correct. And then the Tennessee game was a

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Florida game. It was a t bow game, so that

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>was it was. There was a lot of energy, a

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of juice in those stadiums, but that was that

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>was the fan variants. Texas A and M was actually

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit disappointing, but it was another one of

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>those matchups. But Texas A and M had Chick fil

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>A in the press box, so that goes a long way.

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>That goes a long way. But I I didn't spend

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that much time in college station. I flew in and

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>out of Houston. Oregon State didn't do a lot for me.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a fun game because I got to go

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>see an Oregon Oregon State game Platypus Cup, win the

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>platte But Corvallis fine, But you know, didn't I stayed outside,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like in the Salem area, so I didn't really spend

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that much time, uh in a in Corvallis. But yeah,

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>there are just some places out there, like you go

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to the Rose Bowl. There's not much juice in the

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Rose Bowl for an average UCLA game, so that, yeah,

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, it was There were definitely places where the

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>games weren't that big, but you could tell this was

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a fully dedicated operation by the fan base, by the

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>school right to blowing it out like LSU was LSU

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. It was an inconsequential game. It was rainy,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it was an incredible experience, and so there were places

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, Washington had that. Washington was very

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>energetic in a place that I suggest a lot of

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>people try and get to. If you're if you're hopping

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>around the country going to college football games, yeah, that's

0:32:58.520 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the best. I went to a big o'hig

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>state game which was very fun at the shoe. I

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>think it was Ohio State Penn State. Even though was

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty low scoring, that was great. It was just a

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>great time. Yeah, in the big ten, I would just

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>suggest that people go to Camp Randall when you ask me,

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to end this on a more positive note.

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there are there are those sort of juiceless places.

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure it has more to do with my

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>selection of game than the place itself. Next question, Dan,

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, was that an acceptable answer to you?

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Of course? Okay, of course it's our damn show.

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, do whatever we want. Your question again, I want

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I hit him.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Oregon is seventy six in Bill Connolly's Returning Production index. Now, yeah,

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean everything, but it's a guide. I think

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it is especially important to note Oregon because not only

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>are they losing a lot offense, especially, but they also

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>lost Mary Crystobaal who goes to Miami, and they're employing

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>a first time head coach and Dan Lanning who doesn't

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 2>really have have a ton of familiarity with the Pacific Northwest.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>West Coast pac twelve. You're correct. Yeah, he was at

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>ASU briefly when he was very young. That's it.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you take all those factors into consideration. I

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>think you also got a factor in a schedule that

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>to me looks kind of tricky. Sure, not the least

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>of which is Labor Day weekend when they're.

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Wait, does it? I feel like, well, it's not to

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>take a look at it.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>If you take a look at it, it is certainly

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>not the hardest schedule that they could play. But I

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>think that first month of action will be very trying. Sure,

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 2>because anytime you open up with Georgia, they got a

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>BYU team that brings a lot back by you should

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>be pretty good. Again. Yeah, Eastern Washington, They've got a

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>game later in the year, I believe against Utah, that's

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.959
<v Speaker 2>at home. But it's like there are you could find

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 2>land mines in that schedule. So I have to ask

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the question here in your mind. I don't know how

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>closely you've paid attention to it. It is late March.

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Based on what you know now, what is the range

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 2>of possible outcomes for this Oregon team going into next season?

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>And furthermore, oh, which of those outcomes or which possible

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>thing that could happen would actually leave you concerned about

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Dan Lanninger whether he can do the job at organ.

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>There's very little that he could or couldn't do in

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>year one that will have me worried unless there is

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a locker room abandonment issue that he is not the

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>grown up in the room. And it's becoming clear right

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>away that to me would be the only thing in

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 1>year one be like, oh man, he can't handle coaching

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a major program as a head coach. The variety of

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>outcomes hinges on what I assume to be Bo Nicks

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and whatever the ratio of good Bow to bad Bo is.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was at Auburn. Auburn fans

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>can certainly weigh in that it was like a forty

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty experience, a thirty to seventy experience, certainly with the

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 1>way he finished his career. There, you know, the Texas

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>A and M game. He made some plays, but they

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't score a touchdown. I did score, they didn't get

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>into the end zone. So it was arguably his worst

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>statistical performance of his career, and it was his second

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>to last game, his penultimate game at Auburn. But three

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>of those four games how he finished his Auburn career

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>were pretty promising. The Old miss game, the Arkansas game,

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and at least the first half of that Mississippi State game.

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>So if Oregon gets seventy thirty good bow to bad Bo,

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that's an outcome in which Oregon with a very experienced

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, promising receivers, a good but thin running back

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>room Byron Cardwell's a new full time guy with Travis

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Steim moving to USC and CJ. Verdella entering the draft. Defensively,

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>the lines in a decent place. Linebacker has those two

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>five stars. Secondaries a little bit thin, but they brought

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>in at least a transfer at corner. They were hit

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>by the portal a little bit. They lost a key corner,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a rotation defensive lineman. They lost guys in the portal.

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>The big thing to me is going to be I

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>think the schedule is fantastic. The Georgia game, who cares whatever,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's game one, it's on the road, it's playing in Atlanta,

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>but they're road games within the PAC twelve at Wazoo

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>new full time head coach and Jake Tickert. At Arizona,

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>which still has a long ways to go, but improving,

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>At Cal which has not had an offense and has

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>not really been anything beyond a vague Bowl threat. At Colorado,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>which is trending in the wrong direction. And at Oregon State,

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>which is feisty but shouldn't be deep enough or talented

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>enough to beat Oregon. Now they do have Utah and

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Washington in it looks like consecutive weeks. They have Ucla

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>after a bye week, but that's it's in Eugene. I

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think the schedule's fun.

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a good home schedule. It's a good home schedule.

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a really good road home split.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, you could definitely make the case that Utah

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>is going to be loaded again. They'll be decent. Maybe

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Ucla gets better. I don't know. Right, I think Stanford

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 2>has to get better. You would think they have to

0:37:56.320 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 2>get better. I don't know, right. So you know, as

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we've seen time and again with some of these PAC

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>twelve schedules, sometimes it's the games you don't know, the

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 2>games that don't jump out at you in March, that

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>are the ones that end up taking you down.

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>The problem for me with Oregon and I think there

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.439
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of upside because I still think they're

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>more talented than anybody on their schedule. So that's a

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>good place to start on their Pack twelve schedule. Excuse me,

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>not more talented than Georgia first time head coach, first

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>time full play calling, offensive coordinator, and quarterback transfer. Which

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>we use the word cocktail last episode about rivalry games,

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the spiciest, most balanced cocktails. It doesn't

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like an especially promising cocktail because there's so much unknown.

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>What is the vision Dan Lanning has for his offense?

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>What is the vision Kenny Dillingham has for his offense?

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>After spending time with both cosmels On and Mike Norvell,

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and I am just never a huge fan in having

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to talk yourself into a QB. Now there have been

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>guys who have gone from fine to really good or

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>after thought to surprisingly good after two three years of

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>playing or being a backup and not being able to

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>crack a starting lineup. You look at like what Will

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Levis did at Kentucky. He transfers to Kentucky they need

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback post Terry Wilson. Expectations. The bar wasn't set

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 1>particularly high with Terry Wilson. I think it was Eddie

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Grant was the offensive coordinator at Kentucky. They just sort

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of handed the ball off a lot, and Liam Conan

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>will Levis fully and completely soared past all expectations. Last

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>year Kentucky went ten and three.

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Will Levis said, like you could not have imagined Will Levis.

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I think he was sixty six percent right.

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Wandelle Robinson comes in like that was

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a surprise that you had to talk yourself into. Will

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Levis and Liam Cohen succeeding together and they exceeded expectations,

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>and that happens like I would imagine Pitt fans were

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>fine with Kenny Pickett heading into last year, like he's experienced,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>He's a calming influence, he knows the system, he's comfortable

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>in the ACC. He's one of the best quarterbacks in

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the ACC. Completely exceeds expectations last year. Right, So there

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>are those situations. The problem is those seem to be

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>exceptions to the rule when you have to talk yourself

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>into a quarterback of like, oh well, maybe it's a

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>fresh start. Oh well, maybe he looks like he did

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>at the end of his career. Oh well, maybe he

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>just needs the you know, the lack of pressure at

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>all in that voice specifically. Yeah, that's a problem to

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>me if you're talking yourself into a quarterback with his

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>known flaws and what they're up against in terms of

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>the unknown. I don't know. I think the best case

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>scenario for Oregon is they lose to they lose to Georgia,

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and they lose to Utah and they're able to sneak

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>out the rest of their schedule go ten and two

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>because bo Nicks has decent enough command and he's not

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>the reason they lose games, not necessarily the reason they

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>win games, but he does enough to so that every

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Oregon fan and every college football fan watched their games

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and says, prey solid ten two way one.

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the PAC twelve is in a place, right now,

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm terribly concerned about the quarterback room moving forward.

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>The thing that would actually concern me. You asked about

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.919
<v Speaker 1>what would be concerning about Dan Lanning in year one?

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>What does he do at quarterback for the future? Right now,

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Oregon has three former blue chip quarterbacks in that room, Bonix,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Jay Butterfield, and Ty Thompson. You would be hard pressed

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to find an Oregon fan confident in the position moving forward. Now,

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Oregon's major target in this current recruiting cycle, as we mentioned,

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>is going to Tennessee. At least that's what we figure

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. He's going to end up at Tennessee.

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>There are other interesting quarterback prospects on the West Coast.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't follow it particularly closely. If Dan Lanning fully

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>strikes out in terms of bringing in an interesting, high

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>ceiling type quarterback in this class and has to depend

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>on the portal once again, I mean, who do we

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>suspect is going to be out there? We could talk about,

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, Miller Moss and Hudson Cart and all these

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>guys that are you know, former blue chip guys who

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>are sitting on the bench. But if he is not

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>able to secure a quarterback of the future in this class,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be concerned, but I'd file it away thinking

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 1>huh huh, because I know you need time to build

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>up those relationships as a head coach and your offensive coordinator,

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and nobody knows what Oregon system is going to be,

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>so that's more difficult for quarterbacks to know. Like, you

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>have an idea of what Tommy Reese is gonna do

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>at Notre Dame with a new full time head coach,

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>You have an idea at Brian Kelly and like, what's

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>his name? Who's the offensive coordinator for LSU Denbrock, Denbrock,

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking to bored, Mike Denbrock, you have an ideal,

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what Billion Apier's probably gonna do ish at Florida.

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Oregon's the mystery there, and so they have work to

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>do in explaining and showing future quarterbacks what Oregon's offense

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>is going to be. So that would be the concern

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.839
<v Speaker 1>to me near one that that Dan Lanning does not

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>lock in a promising quarterback of the future.

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 2>That was a very thoughtful answer, Dan, Thank you, Thank

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>you toy for sharing that with me.

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on and if you fast forwarded past all

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.959
<v Speaker 1>of my Oregon gibberish. Welcome back, Welcome back.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Question four. Yeah, gonna begin the part of this episode

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>where we start to take you a little bit out

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 2>of your comfort zone. Yeah, rank your top five players

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>in the upcoming NFL draft.

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>To find top five like who I think should go

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>one through five or my five favorite players who are

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>mocked to be first round ish.

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't think either you or I are qualified to

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 2>actually do the mock draft thing.

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>No, definitely not.

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not asking that question from that perspective. I am

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 2>essentially saying, yes, of the guys who are projected to

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:55.439
<v Speaker 2>go highly in next month's draft, sure, give me your

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 2>top five, top five guys that you saw him in college.

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 2>And like a lot of us are convinced every year

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 2>when you know, somebody drops a little to Patrick Mahomes

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>or whoever, I mean, he didn't drop very far, but

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers. Guys who we see in college, we know

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.360
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be good in the pros. But you

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 2>know who kind of fits that bill as we go

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>into the draft.

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty straightforward to me, both of the inside linebackers

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>who are mocked to be first round guys, and maybe

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>there are more than two, but Devin Lloyd and n

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Kobe Dean were absolute joys to watch as they destroyed

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the hopes and dreams of offenses that Utah and Georgia faced.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Love Evan Neil. Love somebody that is that athletic at

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that size. I don't know if you saw what Evan

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Neil looks like with like just underwear on, just you know,

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:49.359
<v Speaker 1>his combine pant. No, I'm telling you, like physically, there

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>is something that is so terrifying about somebody who is

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what his current measurement is, like.

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Six seven, three thirty seven. I can tell you there

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 2>is definitely a moment in time in the not too

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>distant past where a six to seven linebacker with his

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>shirt off kind of looks like a blob.

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>You mean you mean linemen lineman?

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, yeah, yeah, Evan Neil. Evan Neil looks like

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you play in the NBA. Yes, I mean he's ridiculous.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there is something so impressive about just being a

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 1>big dude and opping a fat dude with carrying all

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that weight and that's that's three thirty five or whatever

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 1>that he's down to from I think what he played

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>at which was close to like three sixty. I think

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>during the season Aaron Donald was that way too. We're like, oh,

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 1>he's three hundre pounds these two hundred ninety punds whatever

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>he is. He's like, he's two hundred ninety pounds of

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>must soul of good mass. And so guys like that

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>are so impressive to me that they're able to perform

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 1>athletically the way that they are and build themselves up

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to that point. So Evan Neil is there, Both of

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>those linebackers are there. Drake London. I just feel so

0:45:55.960 --> 0:46:00.919
<v Speaker 1>bad for Drake London was completely and fully unstoppable, made

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>essentially what amounted to a bad decision to go to

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>USC because of how everything turned out at USC, and

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>was just not playing in consequential games for the most part.

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And so I just am hopeful for him that he's

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>healthy and ends up somewhere where he can immediately impact

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>winning because I just feel bad because he was unstoppable.

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew the ball was going to him, didn't matter.

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Drake London and probably Kaveon Thibodeau just because I'm a

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>dumb Oregon homer. Caveon Thibodeau was beat up for a

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>good chunk of last year, didn't even play in that

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State win. So I'm hopeful for him and for Oregon,

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's something that you know, Oregon can recruit around,

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>not just his success in college, but his success and

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>getting drafted highly and going to the pros. Because Oregon

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>has had, like, very quietly, a good amount of success

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>at defensive line in the draft recently with Eric Armstead

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and DeForest Buckner. So I'm hopeful that that Kveon Thibodeau

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>keeps that going. There's other guys I like, I don't.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a huge fan of drafting running backs and

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>receivers generally speaking, in the first round. I think the

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>focus should be on lineman quarterback. I see a lot

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 1>of people seem to love, you know, Mina Kimes loves

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Malik Willis and hopes that he ends up with the Seahawks.

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I hope it works out for him too. Uh. He

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>just seems like a very fun player and hopefully has

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a good NFL career. I hope it. You know, Kenny

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Pickett and his tiny hands, I hope that works out

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>for him.

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't really like it. I mean, I like, but yeah,

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 2>in terms of draft ability. For whatever it's worth coming

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 2>from me, I don't really like any of the quarterbacks

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:31.919
<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I just I'm a corral Yeah, Sam Howell.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm good. I'm good. If my team needs a quarterback,

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I say, take something else. My team does need a

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 2>quarterback desperately, We're stuck with Daniel Jones. I think for it.

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 1>So you just want Jimmy Garoppolo. Is that what you're

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>looking for?

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>No, just take lineman. It's a deep lineman draft. There

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of good linemen.

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Take lineman the guy from Mississippi State, NC State.

0:47:54.960 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Take defenders like build from the lines out and actually

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 2>build the team right. But don't I don't know, I don't.

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want any of these quarterbacks.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Who else you're gonna miss other than Kyle Hamilton who's

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>projected to be.

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Like Kyle Hamilton? Is my answer? He might be my

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 2>one through three. I love me some Kyle Hamilton. Some

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 2>other names that I think jump out to me. Yes,

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 2>and kind of going through the sex well, I mean

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Devin Lloyd, n Kobe Dean, yep, I you

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.800
<v Speaker 2>know he kind of took those from me. I would

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 2>also throw out as just like another name that I

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 2>feel badly for, David o'jabo hurt his leg.

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw that in Michigan opposite, which sucks. You know

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>that that sucks so bad, like it's Achilles something. Yeah,

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.240
<v Speaker 1>super serious, right, super serious.

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Although they're saying a six month recovery, which apparently they

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 2>can do that now in six months. But David o'jabo,

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, is a name that you know, I want

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 2>to succeed. Aiden Hutchinson. I don't know if you mentioned him,

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 2>but Aiden Hutchinson, with the impact that he had, maybe

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 2>not so much in the playoffs, but certainly throughout the

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>course of the season and his college career at Michigan,

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 2>is another guy that's really easy to root for, as

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 2>is George carl Loftis. George carloftis like sort of came

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere in a sense. It was very dominant.

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I think he was hurt his sophomore year, I want

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 1>to say, and bounce back in a big way. Yeah,

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 1>he bounced back to a big way, damn.

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's not like there was a ton of preseason steam.

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>George carl loftis the way there was on Kaevon Thibodeau, right,

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 2>right totally. The season that he had definitely opened some eyes.

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'd probably throw those three guys out there. Hutchinson,

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 2>carloftis so jabo in addition to Hamilton, and if I'm

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>going to throw one other guy on there, I'll go

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:41.280
<v Speaker 2>to corner.

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was gonna be my bonus. Jonas continue.

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I know everybody's in on Sauce Gardner, and I get

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that he's got great size, He's super as a cover corner.

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember when Notre Dame decided to throw it at him.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I do, I do. I was gonna say

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 2>extingly though, And he's a guy who also was battling injury.

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 2>He's a guy who I remember when he came out

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>of high school, many folks in the recruiting world were saying,

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 2>much like they did with Adrian Peterson, if you want

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>to go pro now, somebody would take him and he

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 2>could probably play at that level. So, you know, been

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a mixed bag at LSU. No one

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 2>doubts the talent, and I'm curious to see what he

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>can do at the next level, and I'm rooting for him.

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So with your five off the board, those are my

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:29.399
<v Speaker 2>next five.

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Done all right.

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Final football question, Daniel hey May, what is your analysis

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 2>of the purported Joe Buck for the Penn State Purdue

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 2>game trade that went down apparently between ESPN and Purdue.

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 2>So like, there's a Fox, ESPN and Fox. What did

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I say, Yeah, Purdue? No, like definitely different ESPN and Fox.

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 2>In case you have not been keeping yourself up to

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 2>date with what's going on in the sports media world,

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Joe baka Troy ak beIN leaving Fox going over to

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 2>ESPA to do Monday Night football big deal in sports

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 2>media circles. But as part of that move to bring

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Joe Buck over to ESPN from Fox, it's been reported

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that there was a trade. That there was a trade.

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:26.879
<v Speaker 2>This requires some understanding of how games get allotted and

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 2>how games get assigned out to different networks throughout the

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 2>course of a given week. I'm not going to go

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 2>into all of that.

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a draft. I believe it's a draft. Yeah, it's

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>a whole thing.

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Kind of cool. I didn't know about it until I

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 2>read about this, but yeah, it's like a whole a

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 2>whole thing that they built in so that the networks

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>can pick off the games that makes sense to them.

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 2>But as part of that. Apparently the game that was

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 2>traded to Fox from ESPN as part of this Joe

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Buck acquisition. I guess we can say, yeah, was Penn

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 2>State Purdue.

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 1>What do you think I think I would watch it

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>regardless Joe Bucker the game, the game, so Aidan O'Connell's back, right,

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>He's back Aiden O'Connell. So he went to the same

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.239
<v Speaker 1>high school as Jody with an eye, So I've got

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>a soft spot there. He's sting. This receiving room is

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 1>not going to be as good this year without David Bell.

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 2>It also got Brady Allen, who they're bringing in.

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I am I am thinking for the money, ESPN probably

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 1>got the better of the deal because Monday night football

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>is such a good cornerstone franchise, broadcast franchise. But I

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm happy for Fox that they got Penn State Perdue.

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like it just kind of seems like,

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>given where these teams are right now, it's kind of

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>like a B game like this. This was not a

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>because the original rumor was what Penn State, Ohio State

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.839
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Now, Notre Dame, Ohio State, notme Ohio State.

0:52:59.880 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Right to open up the year, and that I think

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Burke Magnus, who runs things for ESPN, came out and

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:09.839
<v Speaker 1>denied that specific story. Was al Michaels not traded at

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a certain point Oswald the Rabbits during his Disney because

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>he was at ABC and then went to NBC, And

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>so this is this is not the first trade that

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you know asset to be named later. So Oswald the

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Rabbit I think was an original property of Disney that

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 1>perhaps I think Universal had ownership over and Disney wanted

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>him back. So Oswald the Rabbit is now back in

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the Disney archive. I believe I got that story right.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I like it. The fascinating thing to me is just

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 1>more broadly speaking with the broadcast movement, is Thursday Night

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 1>is now Amazon? Correct? Correct, Thursday Night NFL is now Amazon.

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>The college tie in is Kirk herb Street is calling

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that game with al Michaels. Right.

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Was al Michaels announced as the I believe so I

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 2>think Kirkhurbstreet tweeted it out or instagrammed it out that

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 2>al Michaels and Kirkhurbstreet will be calling the Thursday night

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Amazon game, which I.

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Think is being produced by NBC. So I think al

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Michaels is still going to work with his familiar NBC crew,

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 1>but has left NBC and is not doing Sunday Night.

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 2>They're probably pay I'm assuming.

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>They're probably playing him a pretty penny. Yeah, So kirkhurb

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Street now will be doing what Thursday night football Game

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Day and Saturday Night Football. That's a haul. Yeah, that's

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and announcers And like our pal Adam Amine has been

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 1>calling multiple sports multiple days and this is not a

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:42.840
<v Speaker 1>new thing. But to do a three four hour live

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>show on Saturday morning, after a turnaround on Friday, doing

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the Thursday night game different sport, and then traveling again

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:55.640
<v Speaker 1>potentially Saturday afternoon to call the night game, that's a lot.

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So you have Joe Buckentreigman to Monday Night Football ESPN,

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 1>kirkhurbs Street to Amazon in addition to his ESPN responsibilities.

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going to happen with the Fox guys,

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:09.799
<v Speaker 1>because now you're going to have openings at Fox, Like

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:12.120
<v Speaker 1>is Joe Davis going to now do NFL games? Is

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Gus Johnson going to do NFL games? Are they doubling

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>up college and NFL? I don't know. I don't know

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>those are the two big names doing college.

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 2>It'll be very interesting to see. I'm sort of hung

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 2>up on the trading of assets in different universes.

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I love that possibility. Okay, so let me take

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>it to you and make it personal. Please. If ESPN

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>came to me and said, we are throwing a million

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>dollars at you to spearhead a new college football podcast,

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to leave the solid vert give them any ideas.

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:56.839
<v Speaker 1>But well, I'm letting you know this. I know they

0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>take our stuff. What would commiserate value be for me?

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>If ESPN went to you and said, we understand, we

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 1>fully decap the Soliverble, the tandem that is tyinged in right,

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 1>how can we make this right from an asset perspective

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>because we know the Soliverble is under contract with whoever.

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean for.

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 1>You have ESPN, you have Disney, you have ABC, you

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 1>have all the properties within that umbrella.

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.880
<v Speaker 2>For starters, I need the nft of the original ESPN

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 2>two logo because I don't know what they did with

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:33.280
<v Speaker 2>that thing, but that lives in infamy.

0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the scratchy yeah, yeah, it's just it's got a

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 2>street feel to it. I need that so I need that. However,

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 2>they can signify that I have ownership of the mod.

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, think about specific things since think about like the

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>ESPN things, the physical things that are meaningful to you,

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you mentioned ESPN two. Would you want like Carl

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Ravitch's leather jacket when they were trying to make ESPN

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>two cool, or like Susie Kolver's like remember they were

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:01.440
<v Speaker 1>they had him dressed down. I don't know if it's

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Keith Ober and somebody like what are the physical ESPN

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 1>or Disney or I guess ABC if it was if

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a TV show was produced by ABC, Like would you

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:13.719
<v Speaker 1>want the tool time set in your house? Wow? That

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.240
<v Speaker 1>was an ABC show? No?

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:15.920
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no?

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Would you want a display case of like Arkles glasses?

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>There really is an open playbook here in terms of

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 2>things that you would ask for. The broader question is

0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:24.920
<v Speaker 2>what are you worth?

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. You know how so it have

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to be worth it to ESPN?

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 2>How aggressive could we get this? I mean, could we

0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.919
<v Speaker 2>get the rights to Family Matters? It's not we It's

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 2>not we could I but it's now just you could

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 2>sOliver old media, Like do you want.

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>To syndicate Family Matters? On what would we get we

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 1>get the rights to that? No, that's probably too much step.

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 2>By step little Suzanne Summers? Could we do that? Okay?

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think you could get step by Step.

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you get family matters.

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 2>But Boy Meets World? What about Boy Meets the World

0:57:58.160 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 2>too much?

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 1>BMW's too much? Which could you have a negotiation about

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>hanging with mister Cooper? I think that becomes interesting? Wow,

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 1>like B level tgif Yeah? What are the other pieces

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of ESPN memorabilias like old X game stuff? Like do

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you want Mike Patrick and his audio archive? Do you want? Like? Uh?

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of like other ESPN physical things

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that would be meaningful to you as a token in

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 1>your home, Like would you want Keith Jackson's yellow ABC jacket. See,

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not big on the memorabilia thing, okay, but I

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I wouldn't mind having. I wouldn't mind

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 1>having exclusive ownership of all the ESPN commercials they've done

0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 1>over the years. Oh that's good, But what would you

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>do with it?

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe I'd resell them on the internet

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and money off it. But all right, you know the

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Y two K with Charlie Steiner.

0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>How about this? How about this?

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 2>It's never iffy if it's Griffy with Kenny Maine.

0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 1>What if ESPN agreed to cast you in one of

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>those commercials like and you got to choose any past

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>or present ESPN personality and team. You know, oh, their kneecap,

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>their knee cap in me, I quit up here in

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the commercial.

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I quit my job for this.

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I know that's true.

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>So if they're taking you away, they're ending the business.

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 2>We're done. It's done. I don't have the Donzo sound,

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:31.760
<v Speaker 2>but we're done, right, So you got to make it

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 2>worth my while.

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Is there anybody at ESPN or ABC, Slash Disney that

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you would replace me with? That you would that would

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>just be a swap. See, now that's interesting, a clean swap.

0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>So they just hired Pete Thamil. We don't really know Pete.

0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Pete. Yeah, yeah, Bill Connolly, ESPN.

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Bill Connolly's an interesting poll.

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's bringing Rubenstein energy though it's different.

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>You have all the people on air, right, all the

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>people that call college games, Like, do you think you

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:08.400
<v Speaker 1>could replace me with a A Niche shroff a Dave Pash.

1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you would do the show with Bill Walton?

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Bill Walton would do the show with Bill Walton.

1:00:15.000 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's not there's not enough microphones for

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that one.

1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:22.920
<v Speaker 1>You could go outside of football and hire somebody calling

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:27.479
<v Speaker 1>you want to the show? They rod, No, No, I don't.

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't you know. I mean, if we could somehow

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 2>incorporate the Jack Fowlers skill. Sure, if we could somehow

1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:42.320
<v Speaker 2>incorporate Fouler into this now, he's probably I don't mean

1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to be derogatory towards you. Uh, I don't think you'll

1:00:45.000 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 2>take it as such, But Fowler's got more value than you.

1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:56.240
<v Speaker 2>So could I get him on a limited basis to

1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 2>be part of the content of.

1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:00.080
<v Speaker 1>The show, recurring like a recurring guest, kind of like.

1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:02.919
<v Speaker 2>We had with Bill c Sure, Like, could I bring

1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:05.040
<v Speaker 2>him on for a Patreon show? People would pay for that?

1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Fitness tips with Chris? People would pay for fitness tips

1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:10.600
<v Speaker 2>with Chris. You've seen his biceps on Instagram. You know

1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:15.040
<v Speaker 2>what that's all about. Sure, this is a very complex question.

1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I did not expect you to turn it around on me.

1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I will be putting together a list of demands,

1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and like a good athletic director, I will keep it

1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:26.400
<v Speaker 2>in my top drawer in the event that's something cataclysmic

1:01:27.240 --> 1:01:28.160
<v Speaker 2>like this were to occur.

1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:31.040
<v Speaker 1>What if it was like a demand that every opening

1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Day you get to watch every single baseball game with

1:01:33.960 --> 1:01:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Tim Kirkchin.

1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like Tim Kirkchin. But again, you're nuking

1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 2>my business.

1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:40.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I know, no, I know. I'm just trying to

1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:42.600
<v Speaker 1>come up with something appealing to you as a human.

1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 2>All Right, I have I have two other questions written

1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:48.560
<v Speaker 2>down here. We're gonna do one. Do you want me

1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:54.200
<v Speaker 2>to do the bug one or the uh sleep deprivation one?

1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Sleep deprivation Dan Rubinstein.

1:01:57.560 --> 1:02:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that was the wrong button. No, that's right,

1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:02.400
<v Speaker 1>leave that in there. I'll leave it in.

1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:05.400
<v Speaker 2>They'll both stay in. What is the latest you have

1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:10.800
<v Speaker 2>voluntary What is the latest you have voluntarily stayed up

1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:15.080
<v Speaker 2>stayed awake? Yeah, in the last twelve months.

1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've had an infant voluntarily stayed up. So that

1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:24.160
<v Speaker 1>was not my choice. That was because I had anice.

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:25.680
<v Speaker 2>You had to society life.

1:02:25.880 --> 1:02:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, right from my teet. The latest I have probably

1:02:33.520 --> 1:02:38.840
<v Speaker 1>stayed up has probably been no later than twelve thirty am.

1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Did you see the ball because I was New Year's Eve.

1:02:41.560 --> 1:02:43.840
<v Speaker 1>No, of course, but I never do that. I was

1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:46.000
<v Speaker 1>probably watching a movie or like I got hooked on,

1:02:46.080 --> 1:02:49.120
<v Speaker 1>like Drive to Survive or some show that I just

1:02:49.200 --> 1:02:51.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted to keep watching. U. There are times because I

1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:53.800
<v Speaker 1>played tennis on Thursday nights. I don't know if you

1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:56.600
<v Speaker 1>ever did this when you were because you played softball,

1:02:56.600 --> 1:02:58.240
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if you ever did like a

1:02:58.280 --> 1:03:00.920
<v Speaker 1>more rigorous like sport physical activity.

1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:01.760
<v Speaker 2>How dare you?

1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I went there. When you're done playing, you're

1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:09.000
<v Speaker 1>still juiced up. Yeah, I don't know if Like I

1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:10.720
<v Speaker 1>remember talking to my dad about this when he would

1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:12.640
<v Speaker 1>like play poker until like ten to eleven at night

1:03:12.720 --> 1:03:14.560
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of buddies, but he was thinking about

1:03:14.560 --> 1:03:15.800
<v Speaker 1>all of his hands and he still had a lot

1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of energy from playing, so he would be up till

1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:20.120
<v Speaker 1>one two am. It's not that.

1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Different than when you watch a really high level college

1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:25.360
<v Speaker 2>football game that runs deep into the night and you're

1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:28.480
<v Speaker 2>into it and it just takes after the national championship,

1:03:28.480 --> 1:03:29.560
<v Speaker 2>we were pretty jazzed up.

1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:31.720
<v Speaker 1>We were just late. Did we stay up that night?

1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:34.600
<v Speaker 1>That was one of my later nights. I was close

1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to midnight I was past twelve thirty twelve. That was Eastern. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm in God's time zone now, yeah, somewhere in that,

1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in that realm, that twelve thirty realm. I just don't

1:03:48.080 --> 1:03:49.960
<v Speaker 1>have it in me. Like even those late games, the

1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Pac twelve games. I get up early and watch him

1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in the morning that I miss. There's there's no Pac

1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:59.880
<v Speaker 1>twelve game. And I'm pretty good now because I have

1:03:59.880 --> 1:04:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the YouTube TV. I'm pretty good. Now. I'll just you know,

1:04:02.760 --> 1:04:05.280
<v Speaker 1>throw it to the cloud DVR. I'll avoid my phone,

1:04:05.320 --> 1:04:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll charge in another room, I'll avoid even if it's

1:04:07.760 --> 1:04:10.160
<v Speaker 1>an organ game. I'll just get up at five and

1:04:10.440 --> 1:04:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, skim through it then. So now there, I

1:04:13.960 --> 1:04:17.760
<v Speaker 1>don't have it. I just I'm trying to think. I

1:04:17.800 --> 1:04:20.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think, and I know it's not a fantastic answer.

1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:22.080
<v Speaker 1>What the latest you stayed up? Is what?

1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I've been up very late doing what? Nothing in particular,

1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:31.560
<v Speaker 2>But I've been up till three four?

1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So what are you doing at two forty four am?

1:04:35.960 --> 1:04:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Going down a YouTube rabbit hole? Sure, clicking around on

1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the computer, playing around on the phone.

1:04:42.120 --> 1:04:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

1:04:44.280 --> 1:04:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you doing that in bed? Are you doing that

1:04:46.320 --> 1:04:47.280
<v Speaker 1>in a living room?

1:04:47.840 --> 1:04:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Mostly in the living room, I'd say, yeah, yeah, mostly

1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:53.400
<v Speaker 2>in the living room, but nothing exciting. I mean, I'm

1:04:53.400 --> 1:04:54.240
<v Speaker 2>a man, and you.

1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Can function after two three hours of sleep? No?

1:04:57.720 --> 1:05:01.920
<v Speaker 2>No, no, See when I was working thiserious day job, yeah,

1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and I was up and down and just unable to

1:05:05.640 --> 1:05:08.960
<v Speaker 2>sleep through the night because of stress and the crushing

1:05:09.000 --> 1:05:11.080
<v Speaker 2>weight of the job.

1:05:12.160 --> 1:05:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you can listen to it in full detail.

1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Com you know. I was getting sleep, just not in

1:05:21.240 --> 1:05:24.400
<v Speaker 2>any kind of continuous fashion. And you had to function

1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the next day, so you did it. But no, can

1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I function? I only have two hours of sleep? Not really?

1:05:30.800 --> 1:05:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you watching anything now?

1:05:33.400 --> 1:05:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Any shows?

1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1:05:36.080 --> 1:05:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Solid? Wife Kate watched Inventing Anna?

1:05:39.400 --> 1:05:41.760
<v Speaker 1>No you? Why are you addressed a paw? Yeah?

1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she watched that. I didn't watch it. I just

1:05:44.160 --> 1:05:46.840
<v Speaker 2>saw some of the interviews with the real Anna that

1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Kate watched after the fact, and I've decided I'm not

1:05:49.560 --> 1:05:54.880
<v Speaker 2>really interested watching that show. Okay, So yeah, I went

1:05:54.920 --> 1:06:00.320
<v Speaker 2>back and I watched Jack Ryan season one again again again, Yeah, okay,

1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:03.520
<v Speaker 2>second time. Season one good, Season two, I Get back

1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:06.400
<v Speaker 2>to You. Season two left a little bit to be desired,

1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:09.280
<v Speaker 2>So I watched that was in a mood I am

1:06:09.320 --> 1:06:12.960
<v Speaker 2>waiting to get rolling on Marvelous Missus Maisel.

1:06:13.760 --> 1:06:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Hmm, I'm current. It's good latest season. But the latest

1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:19.080
<v Speaker 1>season only had eight episodes. But yeah, yeah, I'm.

1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Waiting, waiting to get caught up on that one. And

1:06:22.760 --> 1:06:24.520
<v Speaker 2>then there are a couple others that have been sent

1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to me. I watch Hacks that I tell you watch Hacks.

1:06:27.400 --> 1:06:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's really good, right, it was good? Yeah, yep. Yeah.

1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:33.480
<v Speaker 2>But as for current stuff that I'm watching, sort of

1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:35.880
<v Speaker 2>an open book. I really could go for something to

1:06:35.920 --> 1:06:38.520
<v Speaker 2>fill that void of like a Jack Ryan type of show.

1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm dangerously close to rewatching Breaking Bad, dangerously close.

1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:47.919
<v Speaker 1>And also, do you watch Better Call Saul? No? Did

1:06:47.920 --> 1:06:48.720
<v Speaker 1>you do Breaking Bad?

1:06:48.840 --> 1:06:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I did Breaking Bad?

1:06:49.600 --> 1:06:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to do Better Call Saul? Better Call.

1:06:51.520 --> 1:06:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I started it, I couldn't get into it.

1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Keep you gotta keep going. It's so good. The new

1:06:55.360 --> 1:07:01.000
<v Speaker 1>season starts I think next month time. I'm jacked about it. Yeah,

1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:05.400
<v Speaker 1>there it is, Yeah, there it is. I've been saving

1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that sound drop for quite some time.

1:07:06.720 --> 1:07:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you pulled it out at the right time, Thank you.

1:07:09.160 --> 1:07:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I was just a little little treat for people who've

1:07:10.720 --> 1:07:14.560
<v Speaker 1>been paying attention to this entire time. Got ah, Yeah,

1:07:14.600 --> 1:07:16.720
<v Speaker 1>that's I stayed up late the other night, Friday night,

1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, watching a couple of the newer south Park episodes.

1:07:19.040 --> 1:07:21.960
<v Speaker 1>There was an episode about city city people moving to

1:07:22.080 --> 1:07:25.640
<v Speaker 1>south Park and all they only say, like seven words,

1:07:25.880 --> 1:07:27.959
<v Speaker 1>people moving from the city and driving up real estate

1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:30.560
<v Speaker 1>prices in south Park, in which Cartman becomes a real

1:07:30.680 --> 1:07:34.480
<v Speaker 1>estate agent south Park Realty Group and all of the

1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:37.360
<v Speaker 1>city folk they come in and all they say is

1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:43.480
<v Speaker 1>bottled water MacBook pro pilates Tesla bottled water, Tesla plates MacBook.

1:07:44.000 --> 1:07:46.720
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good. It's pretty great as a city person

1:07:46.880 --> 1:07:51.800
<v Speaker 1>currently moving to a nonhu suburb. Anyway, Uh, it was

1:07:51.840 --> 1:07:55.560
<v Speaker 1>good and I stayed up pretty late for me watching it.

1:07:56.120 --> 1:07:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Very boring.

1:07:56.960 --> 1:07:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Daniel, thank you for imparting some of your wisdom on us.

1:07:59.560 --> 1:08:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I try Hey.

1:08:00.840 --> 1:08:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Always appreciated. We appreciate you out there in the for Ballerhood, downloading, listening,

1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:08.720
<v Speaker 2>supporting the show. Hopefully you made it the full way through.

1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:14.040
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you hanging around. If you have saliverble at

1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:16.160
<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com, if you've got anything further that you

1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like to share on the content of this show, or

1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:21.760
<v Speaker 2>really anything that we do here, don't forget to subscribe

1:08:21.800 --> 1:08:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to the show. Don't forget to tell your friends to

1:08:23.920 --> 1:08:26.439
<v Speaker 2>subscribe and follow the show as well. That stuff really

1:08:26.439 --> 1:08:29.000
<v Speaker 2>does help. So I'll giveaway dot Com. As I said

1:08:29.040 --> 1:08:31.120
<v Speaker 2>at the very top of the show, you can go

1:08:31.160 --> 1:08:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and sign up to win that sign mini helmet from

1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:36.160
<v Speaker 2>aj Brown the Old Miss Variety. It's a white helmet.

1:08:36.160 --> 1:08:37.920
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool. Yeah.

1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:39.479
<v Speaker 2>And last, but not at least for ballers, dot com

1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:41.000
<v Speaker 2>is a where you can find all the bonus stuff

1:08:41.000 --> 1:08:43.880
<v Speaker 2>that we're proud of the video of this show. Get

1:08:43.880 --> 1:08:46.439
<v Speaker 2>an early access to this show, Get access to Discord.

1:08:46.439 --> 1:08:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Discord's been popping off as per usual. Many of you

1:08:50.640 --> 1:08:53.080
<v Speaker 2>are listening to this on Thursday. There's a big US

1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:53.920
<v Speaker 2>soccer match tonight.

1:08:54.800 --> 1:08:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh who is the Is this men's or women?

1:08:57.400 --> 1:08:58.080
<v Speaker 2>The Mexico game?

1:08:58.160 --> 1:08:58.559
<v Speaker 1>This is that?

1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:01.360
<v Speaker 2>This is an Azteca.

1:09:00.520 --> 1:09:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Men's are women's men's men's? Okay? Are you feeling good?

1:09:05.240 --> 1:09:05.320
<v Speaker 2>No?

1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:07.240
<v Speaker 1>What network is it on?

1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I think it's on Paramount Plus Great.

1:09:12.080 --> 1:09:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you own it or will you be pirrating this game?

1:09:14.160 --> 1:09:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't own Paramount Plus. It was not included in

1:09:16.640 --> 1:09:17.240
<v Speaker 2>the trade for you.

1:09:17.320 --> 1:09:18.680
<v Speaker 1>But are you a subscriber?

1:09:18.720 --> 1:09:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I do have a four ninety nine month subscription for

1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:25.759
<v Speaker 2>you spend just from March, just after March. I'm done, okay,

1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:28.000
<v Speaker 2>but I just bought it for World Cup qualifying.

1:09:28.920 --> 1:09:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Look at you, all right, it's all the time I have.

1:09:31.040 --> 1:09:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, if you're into that, you can go on Discord.

1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:34.799
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be talking about it there in the meantime.

1:09:35.600 --> 1:09:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Dan for that guy over there, my good

1:09:37.120 --> 1:09:40.719
<v Speaker 2>friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilde Brand. We will

1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:44.040
<v Speaker 2>be back with you next week. In the meantime, as always,

1:09:44.040 --> 1:09:45.439
<v Speaker 2>stay solid, Peace,