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Speaker 2: Me well, look, today we are going to pick up
Speaker 2: where we left off. Yeah, on the show we did
Speaker 2: earlier in this week, you had five questions for me
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Speaker 1: Yes, as you often do.
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Speaker 1: You you told me no pizza and no relationship questions,
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Speaker 2: out of the way, do you just want me to
Speaker 2: dive into my questions?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is there any news you want to discuss?
Speaker 1: Adidas is apparently opening up the nil coffers. Did you
Speaker 1: see that?
Speaker 2: I saw the headline? What does that mean for us
Speaker 2: as college football fans?
Speaker 1: That means Adidas schools will have opportunities with their athletes
Speaker 1: across various sports to become essentially Adidas influencers. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure the bigger athletes with the bigger social followings, with
Speaker 1: the bigger public awareness Q ratings will be front and center.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Adidas huge company and going to proverbial bat
Speaker 1: for Adidas schools, So that was a reality. I think
Speaker 1: we're all prepared for. I know Nike has already jumped
Speaker 1: into things, especially with Oregon and NIL and set up
Speaker 1: I think it's called Division Street, which provides opportunity NIL opportunities,
Speaker 1: so sort of part for the course. I think we're
Speaker 1: going to see more companies jumping through it. I saw,
Speaker 1: you know, the Saint Peter's some guard for Saint Peter's,
Speaker 1: I think has a Buffalo Wild Wings deal after they
Speaker 1: upset Kentucky, which is really like to me, the spirit
Speaker 1: of things with NIL, where you know, all athletes that
Speaker 1: you know have a certain degree of visibility should be
Speaker 1: able to capitalize on that, but especially ones that sort
Speaker 1: of become overnight names, that are able to capitalize on
Speaker 1: moments on becoming sensations. And so yeah, it seems seems
Speaker 1: like a big win. And I'm sure we're going to
Speaker 1: get into it with some of your questions, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Adidas officially jumping into the fold.
Speaker 2: I saw that, Nico. I'm not even gonna try the
Speaker 2: last name.
Speaker 1: Yam a Lava, Yama Lava something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like I am a Leavin And indeed
Speaker 2: he did spurning the spurning some other programs that were
Speaker 2: associated with his recruitment and decides to go to Tennessee. Now,
Speaker 2: there was some scuttle butt about the trust whatever we're
Speaker 2: calling that, the trust, the collective, Yeah, that the collective,
Speaker 2: the eight million dollar potential sure for Nico, an unnamed Nico,
Speaker 2: I guess still unnamed Nico, but we all know it's him.
Speaker 2: Regardless of all, that a pretty big yet for Josh Hypel.
Speaker 1: Huge, humongous for Tennessee. And I assume, you know, the
Speaker 1: hope is to build around him with offensive linemen and
Speaker 1: receivers who are seeing the explosivity of Josh Hypel's system,
Speaker 1: you know, sending receivers deep, really going for playing with pace.
Speaker 1: It's an exciting brand of football, for sure. And that
Speaker 1: was just year one last year with a with a
Speaker 1: transfer quarterback and Hendon Hooker. So yeah, it's obvious that
Speaker 1: there is an interesting ceiling for Tennessee. The nil stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend like I understand the intricacies
Speaker 1: of the deal he signed. I'm sure that eight million
Speaker 1: figure is a best case scenario. Yeah, right, But I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a market setting figure. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that figures to affect a big defensive tackle
Speaker 1: or a big corner or a big receiver or other
Speaker 1: SEC schools, SEC schools. It's going to be all over
Speaker 1: the place, but that it is an interesting parameter to
Speaker 1: the market for a five star quarterback, of which there
Speaker 1: are a couple of other big ones. Malachi Nelson's committed
Speaker 1: to USC and Arch Manning is the other big fish
Speaker 1: and he remains uncommitted, And I think about Georgia, Alabama,
Speaker 1: Texas appear to be the big players as of the
Speaker 1: time of recording in his recruitment. I won't pretend like
Speaker 1: I am fully up to date on the class of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but in terms of where the market is,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating. It'll correct itself. Maybe it's low. Who knows,
Speaker 1: Maybe Nico will be a Heisman caliber quarterback and it'll
Speaker 1: prove he'll prove to be more of a fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollar type quarterback with how much he brings in and
Speaker 1: how much better recruiting classes are, with how much he
Speaker 1: gets Tennessee boosters excited about donating to the school and
Speaker 1: more enrollment into the school. There's all sorts of, you know,
Speaker 1: different tentacles to a successful football team within a university.
Speaker 1: So hoping for the best for him. Disappointed as an
Speaker 1: Oregon fan and maybe we'll get into Oregon a little
Speaker 1: bit later on. But appointed as an organ fan. And
Speaker 1: I can tell you this as a Duck fan, I
Speaker 1: could very easily say, psh, what does college football come to?
Speaker 1: Oregon lost out on a West Coast quarterback because of
Speaker 1: booster money. But if Oregon had secured him, my reaction
Speaker 1: would have been like, psh, it's college football in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two.
Speaker 2: Get with the program, everybody program? Yeah yeah, so.
Speaker 1: No, I I am nothing if not a fan of
Speaker 1: high level college football. Hopefully that comes across and a
Speaker 1: strong Tennessee would be a fun thing to watch given
Speaker 1: the style that they're going to be playing with.
Speaker 2: Two other items very quickly that I think warrant mentioning.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've discussed either. Yeah, Ulysses Bentley.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where did he end up? What?
Speaker 2: Ole Miss?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He's going Ole Miss. So, in case you haven't been
Speaker 2: paying attention, Lane Kiffin has put together a nice little
Speaker 2: roster of transfers. Yeah, portal king, he's been the portal king.
Speaker 2: First it was Jackson Dart and Zach Evans. Now adding
Speaker 2: Ulysses Bentley the fourth to the equation, Yeah, is pretty
Speaker 2: damn interesting. Certainly they've got options in the backfield now,
Speaker 2: and yeah, just infinitely curious to see how Lane uses
Speaker 2: both those guys. It'd be very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the big story with Old Miss last year
Speaker 1: was the the direction of the defense is heading in
Speaker 1: because for all the points Ole Miss can and will
Speaker 1: certainly always score, given the talent on offense and on
Speaker 1: the offensive coaching staff, they don't want to be playing
Speaker 1: that Arkansas game every week. They don't want to be
Speaker 1: playing fifty three to fifty two every week. And so
Speaker 1: it's terrific that these guys are coming in because there's
Speaker 1: every reason to given how you'll be featured in that
Speaker 1: offense as a running back, as a receiver, quarterback, whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's the curiosity about the defense. They
Speaker 1: lose DJ Dirkin, right, he goes over to Texas A
Speaker 1: and M. So no, it'll it'll be fascinating because Lane
Speaker 1: Kiffin is somebody who will stay current with how to
Speaker 1: acquire players, how to build rosters. He is not going
Speaker 1: to follow the Dabbo model of this is the way
Speaker 1: I do things and this is how I'm going to
Speaker 1: do things moving forward, even though Dabbo has now talked
Speaker 1: about more flexibility in terms of roster construction.
Speaker 2: And last, but certainly not least, Emery Jones go into
Speaker 2: the portal, saw that. Yeah, it originally looked as if
Speaker 2: he were going to stay. Billy Napier encouraged him to stay,
Speaker 2: but ultimately Emory Jones decides he wants to go quote
Speaker 2: to a stable place that will welcome me, is excited
Speaker 2: to have me there and the right situation and fit.
Speaker 2: He told that to ESPN and a phone interview this
Speaker 2: past weekend. Speculation has been that ASU could be a
Speaker 2: landing spot for him, if only because there was a
Speaker 2: sudden following of Emory Jones on social media by some
Speaker 2: at ASU. There were some other schools that also followed, dude.
Speaker 2: I think Rice and Arkansas State North Texas smaller programs
Speaker 2: by comparison to ASU. But Emory Jones is a kid
Speaker 2: who's played for Florida. I don't know if he's quite
Speaker 2: lived up to the hype that he brought with them
Speaker 2: when was originally flipped by Dan Mullen. Ye'll come down
Speaker 2: to Gainesville. But nonetheless still a name out there, you'd
Speaker 2: have to think, if you're ASU, it's appealing, if only
Speaker 2: because they're so damn finnick quarterback, You'll take whatever you
Speaker 2: can get.
Speaker 1: M h. Yeah, And of course BILLI and Napier had
Speaker 1: his own history at ASU, one of the places that
Speaker 1: helped to jump start his career, so interesting connection there.
Speaker 1: Also saw JT. Daniels still out there. I think both
Speaker 1: Emery Jones and JT. Daniels were in a similar situation
Speaker 1: where they wanted to graduate first. They just they had
Speaker 1: a limited number of credits left and so they wanted
Speaker 1: to finish out the winter semester. So JT. Daniels down
Speaker 1: to at the least time of recording, West Virginia, Oregon
Speaker 1: State and MISSOI I don't know if you have that
Speaker 1: in front of you, all interesting fits. Of course, Johnathan
Speaker 1: Smith has done a very good job with quarterbacks. West
Speaker 1: Virginia certainly certainly in need of better quarterback play. I
Speaker 1: know they've got a freshman they're pretty high on, but
Speaker 1: in terms of experience and upside, JT. Daniels certainly brings that.
Speaker 1: Miszoo obviously losing Connor bayslack to I believe Indiana God,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep track of a lot in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: But they themselves have intriguing, young, unproven quarterbacks in the future,
Speaker 1: so a year of JT. Daniels postgraduate might not be
Speaker 1: the worst thing for Miszoo, especially with how they've been
Speaker 1: building things out on offense. They just landed what the
Speaker 1: number one or two receiver in the country and Luther
Speaker 1: Burden in this last class, so two pretty big names
Speaker 1: out there looking to certainly improve what a quarterback room
Speaker 1: looks like at a number of places.
Speaker 2: Alrighty, Dan, shall we dive into questions?
Speaker 1: I'm ready, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's dive in. I dusted off that sound. I finally
Speaker 2: got my sounds ready to go here. I am excited.
Speaker 2: These are thank you. These are five questions that I've
Speaker 2: had on my mind that I've been wanting to ask you.
Speaker 2: I jotted them down. Yeah, but I haven't been able to.
Speaker 2: There's been a lot to talk about it as a
Speaker 2: lot going on. Sure, so we're gonna take this week.
Speaker 2: It's for us. It's our time, Dan, question number one
Speaker 2: College football in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: would you agree that it feels a little bit different
Speaker 2: than it has in the past.
Speaker 1: Uh, it feels uniquely different. Sure, I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna say, just agree with me. I'm going somewhere with this.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm with you. Yes, it feels different.
Speaker 2: We have nil we have we just read off news
Speaker 2: about the transfer portal.
Speaker 1: It's still going.
Speaker 2: We have coaching changes. Conference realignment felt like an eternity
Speaker 2: ago Texas and Oklahoma and then the Big Twelve. It's
Speaker 2: like a whole thing. It's going on out there. And
Speaker 2: you know what that means. You've been around the media
Speaker 2: game for quite some time. That means hot takes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I means hot takes oftentimes very bad opinions out there
Speaker 2: floating around the internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, one thing you forgot is
Speaker 1: just the availability of games. That games are so much
Speaker 1: more available in a more complicated way, sometimes with streaming,
Speaker 1: oh ye, with announcers bouncing all over now too, and
Speaker 1: so there's a lack of familiarity and yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: affecting things in terms of realignment and TV deals and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all over the place that there is a certain
Speaker 1: amount of commercialization and millions upon millions, if not gotting
Speaker 1: into the billions of dollars in the sport that you
Speaker 1: know it. It brings about opinions.
Speaker 2: Let's say I want to know which popular opinion? Yeah,
Speaker 2: which hot take that you Dan Rubinstein mostly believes. Is
Speaker 2: BS something that you're tired of hearing? It seems to
Speaker 2: have gone somewhat mainstream. Right, you're not buying it, you're
Speaker 2: not into it, And you can't answer the playoff. You
Speaker 2: can't answer the playoff because everybody knows where you stand
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fine. What do you think? So you're
Speaker 1: asking me? Given the state of things, people's hot takes
Speaker 1: are all over the place with college football? Which hot take?
Speaker 1: And I'm a big proponent of naming names. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you have any names that you want to
Speaker 1: throw out who takes? No, I don't necessarily have. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of smart people who are Again,
Speaker 1: I don't have the names I wish I did. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of naming names. But there appears to be
Speaker 1: a sentiment. There appears to be a sentiment of college
Speaker 1: football is not ruined. Like I'm gonna zag with this, right,
Speaker 1: there's like a fan sentiment that all of this nil
Speaker 1: and transfer portal is ruining college football. And then there's
Speaker 1: pushback from writers that it's essentially this. Everybody always cries wolf,
Speaker 1: everybody always says something's going to ruin college football. But
Speaker 1: college football has always been changing. College football always has
Speaker 1: new quirks and wrinkles and movement across the sport, and
Speaker 1: you're still going to watch. My pushback is the fear
Speaker 1: of fans is warranted. So this is sort of a
Speaker 1: backlash to the backlash. I don't even know what I'm
Speaker 1: doing right here. I am saying I think we should
Speaker 1: be taking not the people who are crying wolf, not
Speaker 1: the people who are saying the sport is being ruined.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is there are people for which nil
Speaker 1: for which the over commercialization, for which the transfer portal,
Speaker 1: with players moving all over the place, coaches moving all
Speaker 1: over the place, that this is a tipping point for
Speaker 1: some people. I still think they're going to watch people
Speaker 1: who are turned off by the realities of college football.
Speaker 1: I think there are going to be people, a not
Speaker 1: insignificant percentage of people. Also, you could add in like
Speaker 1: the dominance by a very small select group within the
Speaker 1: sport that brings about hot takes, not even necessarily with
Speaker 1: the playoff, just be like college football sort of the
Speaker 1: same thing every year, right, it's Alabama against too LSU
Speaker 1: against Clemson against Ohio State, whatever. So people push back
Speaker 1: with that. I think fans who are raising these concerns
Speaker 1: about the changes being too dramatic to the sport, I
Speaker 1: think there's something to it. I don't think college football
Speaker 1: is bulletproof. I think football as a sport is in
Speaker 1: a pretty good place in terms of fan interest, but
Speaker 1: that's mostly because of the NFL. I don't care about
Speaker 1: TV ratings. I don't really care about attendance. There's all
Speaker 1: sorts of metrics that you can use. I'm saying it
Speaker 1: would be foolish to ignore people raising these concerns right now,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of writers are ignoring these concerns.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of writers are saying players have
Speaker 1: played for free and haven't been able to monetize and
Speaker 1: haven't been able to do this, or that players haven't
Speaker 1: had the freedom of movement, and whether right or wrong,
Speaker 1: I think people that are raising these concerns, fans of
Speaker 1: whatever team, fans of big teams, small teams, whatever, I
Speaker 1: think they should be listened to. I think there is
Speaker 1: something about the sport and We've talked about this before,
Speaker 1: and I know I keep cutting you off as you
Speaker 1: begin to talk. No, it's fine. There's something about the
Speaker 1: sport that has become regularly anti fan, which I think
Speaker 1: is a problem. And I think the thing that we've
Speaker 1: talked about before is college football in two thousand and
Speaker 1: five was pretty difficult to follow. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: you have to be dedicated to following the sport and
Speaker 1: the intricacies of movement, both of teams, coaches, players, what
Speaker 1: nil deals mean or don't mean, and all of the
Speaker 1: legislation around the sport. You need to stay current with
Speaker 1: it or you will be left behind. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of an anti mainstream fan sentiment, which I don't think
Speaker 1: is the healthiest thing for the sport. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it means. I just don't think college football is
Speaker 1: especially pro fan.
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Speaker 2: I also don't think it's a binary choice.
Speaker 1: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: And I feel like, oftentimes I'll stick with you on
Speaker 2: this point, oftentimes raising concerns unintentionally puts you on the
Speaker 2: side of being anti something. Sure, right, fans have concerns
Speaker 2: about Nil. Maybe you're an Akron fan.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We just mentioned a few minutes ago. Iye, you're an
Speaker 2: Akron fan, and maybe NIL. All this stuff coming out
Speaker 2: the transfer portal that scares the crap out of you,
Speaker 2: because not only can some of those players potentially be
Speaker 2: siphoned away from your program b Lord by other programs
Speaker 2: in the area that might have some moerey to throw,
Speaker 2: but also if you do get to the stage where you,
Speaker 2: let's say, develop a legitimate pro prospect at defensive end
Speaker 2: or running back or wide receiver or quarterback, now suddenly
Speaker 2: there's an immediate market elsewhere at a bigger place for
Speaker 2: their services. Understand that fans perspective, though, I think those
Speaker 2: concerns does not necessarily mean the fan is anti change.
Speaker 2: It just means that they're got real concerns, and.
Speaker 1: I hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't like labeling folks as being anti
Speaker 2: when they bring up valid.
Speaker 1: Points That said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the counter argument would be, there's so
Speaker 2: much money in this damn thing, we don't really care
Speaker 2: what you think it's going to change whether you like
Speaker 2: it or not. And so that may also emphasize the
Speaker 2: second part of your point about college football becoming a
Speaker 2: little bit more anti fan.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I just and look, there is no college football.
Speaker 1: There is no entity making decisions. That's not the NC DOUBLEA,
Speaker 1: it's not the College Football Playoff. It's just the idea
Speaker 1: of the sport as a whole has gotten further and
Speaker 1: further away from making it easy to consume. And so
Speaker 1: that's again Soliverble dot com. Please do subscribe and follow
Speaker 1: and do whatever you need to do on your subscribe
Speaker 1: your subscription service. But I think there is that sentiment
Speaker 1: among writers, whether they work for ESPN or the athletic
Speaker 1: or sports illustrator whatever, that like, players finally have a voice,
Speaker 1: and they can finally have the ability to make money,
Speaker 1: and they finally have an ability to move around. I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with the upside of any of that. But again,
Speaker 1: it's not amazing for the sport as a whole to
Speaker 1: have year by year dramatic movement across the sport because
Speaker 1: college football is the size of a professional sport but
Speaker 1: does not have similar contracts and representation as the NFL,
Speaker 1: as the NBA, as the NHL as Major League Baseball,
Speaker 1: and so there is a structure, unfair as it may
Speaker 1: be to a lot of those sports, there is an
Speaker 1: understood structure to how and when players and not coaches,
Speaker 1: but players can move around. And so this is all
Speaker 1: so very new that a lot of writers. Again, whether
Speaker 1: it's Andy Stables, Nicole Hourback or Ari Wassmer, any of
Speaker 1: these people, I don't know, but there is that sentiment
Speaker 1: that says, relax, you're still gonna watch football. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly true, because people are kind of sick of trying
Speaker 1: and sick of being told the college football playoff or
Speaker 1: recruiting is the most important thing, and that there nine
Speaker 1: to three season of the seven and five season. They
Speaker 1: should just be happy with that and then see their
Speaker 1: star linebacker transfer to a bigger school and see their
Speaker 1: star quarterback transfer. Look, both of our schools have been
Speaker 1: the beneficiaries. You're both of our quarterbacks. Our team's quarterbacks
Speaker 1: were transfers from other schools. Oregon bigger than Boston College.
Speaker 1: Of course, the biggest Oregon transfer quarterback in recent in
Speaker 1: recent history came from Eastern Washington. But it's a reality
Speaker 1: that is not super appealing to the masses to me
Speaker 1: from what I can tell, and so don't know how
Speaker 1: you fix it. But that's the take of everything will
Speaker 1: be fine, You'll still watch football.
Speaker 2: It's the meme of the dog in the burning house.
Speaker 2: Maybe not that drastic, but right, I think that's what
Speaker 2: you're pointing out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more important to listen to fans,
Speaker 1: reasonable smart fans, raising these concerns than where we collectively
Speaker 1: as people who cover the sport do.
Speaker 2: I will tell you, you know, just through the off
Speaker 2: season and through some of the stuff that I've been
Speaker 2: reading to keep myself current on college football, the one
Speaker 2: point that I think is emphasized and re emphasized, and
Speaker 2: if ever there were any doubt, you shouldn't because college
Speaker 2: football is just built a little bit differently. Right, The
Speaker 2: power of the rivalry in college football. Yeah, the power
Speaker 2: of the rivalry in college football is still the engine
Speaker 2: that makes this whole thing go. Sure, and you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's a Texas and Texas, A and m thing
Speaker 2: or Pitt and Penn State, or you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: There are plenty of rivalries that have fallen by the
Speaker 2: wayside over the years. You know, I hope whatever we
Speaker 2: do that that is committed to memory because we didn't
Speaker 2: lose that. We just can't lose that aspect of college football.
Speaker 2: It really is what makes it unique and special.
Speaker 1: It's even the second tier rivalries too, right, It's it's
Speaker 1: there's a shared history between Mississippi State and Florida, between
Speaker 1: Oregon and Washington State, between Michigan State Penn State, which
Speaker 1: is let's what the Langrand Trophy, that is a true
Speaker 1: rivalry game sort of there is. There's that even Notre
Speaker 1: Dame Stanford when Stanford's good, there's that shared history of like,
Speaker 1: oh man, remember that game three years ago that was wild.
Speaker 1: I remember Christian McCaffrey went wild running. Like there is
Speaker 1: something about even those second tier rivalries that we lose it.
Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent on that, and you know,
Speaker 2: on prope playoff, but I will say you know that
Speaker 2: that is the guts of college football. That is what
Speaker 2: makes this special. Any fan who tells you differently doesn't
Speaker 2: know what they're talking about. The rivalries are ultimately what
Speaker 2: power this thing. So all right, yeah, let's get to
Speaker 2: question numeroal dos.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: You got into this business on your own free will, Dan,
Speaker 2: That's true. Happily you sent out tapes, you hustled. You
Speaker 2: eventually became the SI tour guy m SI being Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, eight nine. And I did it
Speaker 1: independently in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went around to a bunch of different college
Speaker 2: football stadiums.
Speaker 1: Wasn't just college.
Speaker 2: Football, you did other events too, But yep, you know,
Speaker 2: college football is really where it started for you, and
Speaker 2: you had the privilege of going to a bunch of
Speaker 2: the pre eminent college football cathedrals, let's say true around
Speaker 2: our great nation. So much talk on this show many
Speaker 2: other shows, is what's the best stadium you've ever been to?
Speaker 2: What's the coolest game day environment? Oh, it's the grove,
Speaker 2: it's the it's state college. What's the worst game day experience?
Speaker 1: Just bathing in the jacuzzi of negativity here, Tyhu, you
Speaker 1: just listen.
Speaker 2: You've had a two month sinus infection at this point.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: If we went a little darker, we're trying to vibe
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: Just work with me. Okay, So I'll say this. When
Speaker 1: you say stadium, you want to say in game, like
Speaker 1: within the stadium or the overall experience, because the SI
Speaker 1: Tour Guide show was built around tailgating and culture around
Speaker 1: game day, not just how it is inside of a stadium.
Speaker 2: You can you can answer this however you want, Okay,
Speaker 2: however you want, I'll take either or both, Okay.
Speaker 1: So there are a number of factors here, right, There's
Speaker 1: like how fun was it to tailgate? How fun was
Speaker 1: it to spend time in this college town, which I
Speaker 1: didn't get to do all the time, because there are
Speaker 1: certain like even South Bend, and like flew because I
Speaker 1: was living in La flew into Chicago, drove to South
Speaker 1: Bend for the game, drove back to Chicago, And so
Speaker 1: I didn't stay overnight in South Bend, and I didn't
Speaker 1: stay overnight in a lot of places just because of flying.
Speaker 1: In travel convenience, the most inconvenient travel to get to
Speaker 1: a game was is clear to me, and that's Penn State.
Speaker 1: Penn State was the absolute worst place to get to
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles because basically I did want to take
Speaker 1: connecting flights, so I had to fly to Pittsburgh or Philly.
Speaker 1: Flew to Pittsburgh and drove the most miserable stretch of
Speaker 1: a state I've ever driven. And this is nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the people of Western PA or Central Pa
Speaker 1: or what the cities, the towns, whatever. It's just dark
Speaker 1: and miserable and not wide lan like. It's just a
Speaker 1: miserable travel experience to drive to and from I guess
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh to State College and back. That was awful.
Speaker 1: Beaver Stadium was quite fun. There was a wide variety
Speaker 1: of persons outside, like I don't know if you tailgate
Speaker 1: on the cow pastures. I don't know what that situation
Speaker 1: is in State College, but State College probably had or
Speaker 1: that specific tailgate probably had the widest variance in these
Speaker 1: people are awesome and these people are terrible and I
Speaker 1: want to get away from them. And the only other
Speaker 1: place that I had that sort of dramatic variance in
Speaker 1: fans whor I was like, these people are great, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad I came across them tailgating, and I need
Speaker 1: to get away from these humans as quickly as humanly possible.
Speaker 1: Was Tennessee. Really Now, I went to a Tennessee Florida game,
Speaker 1: and I got to go to Niland and I was
Speaker 1: on the field and I got to see I think
Speaker 1: it was a checkerboard game of some kind. It was incredible.
Speaker 1: The experience inside Beaver Stadium at Penn State and the
Speaker 1: experience inside Neeland were both terrific. But those are the
Speaker 1: places with the widest variants of fans where I'm like,
Speaker 1: these people are horrific and I want to get away.
Speaker 1: I assume you can empathize a little bit with that.
Speaker 1: Penn State's an enormous school, so of course you're going
Speaker 1: to get people that rub you that way, right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of a perfect cross section between Philly
Speaker 2: fans and Pittsburgh fans. There's a pretty heavy New York influences.
Speaker 1: Well I would say New York, New Jersey probably, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's it's understandable, to say the least.
Speaker 1: So that's more travel and fans I was. There are
Speaker 1: places that I was definitely surprised by how much I
Speaker 1: liked the stadium experience, Like I went into it probably
Speaker 1: too negatively. Like I had a really good time at
Speaker 1: Iowa and Iowa City. The tailgate wasn't anything special. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the most the two most disappointing places, and
Speaker 1: it's the context is important here. The two most disappointing
Speaker 1: places were probably Clemson in West Virginia. I had a
Speaker 1: great time in the tailgates at Clemson in West Virginia,
Speaker 1: but the games themselves, I had heard so much about
Speaker 1: Death Valley and they're running, you know, the Robin Howard's
Speaker 1: rock and running down the hill and all that stuff. Clemson,
Speaker 1: I want to say two thousand and eight, and this
Speaker 1: may have just been the tail end of Tommy Bowden
Speaker 1: or he was already fired and Dabble was the interim.
Speaker 1: They played Maryland, maybe Danny O'Brien Maryland in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, and it was just not a great game.
Speaker 1: It was an early kickoff and it was just the
Speaker 1: energy was not all that great. And Clemson's not an
Speaker 1: especially easy place to get to from LA. But that's
Speaker 1: a me thing that doesn't matter for you know, Clemson
Speaker 1: as a whole. But this was Clemson before it was Clemson.
Speaker 1: I didn't have an amazing time. I really liked hanging
Speaker 1: out in the town of Clemson in the tailgate and
Speaker 1: West Virginia was another early kick had a great time
Speaker 1: with Mountaineer fans. Drank like moonshine at nine forty four
Speaker 1: am or something like that it was a big East
Speaker 1: game against Rutgers. And this is probably eight, so I
Speaker 1: think Pat White was still there. Pat McAfee was still there.
Speaker 1: And it was like a very ho hum like twenty
Speaker 1: four seventeen, twenty seven to seventeen game, and it was early.
Speaker 1: The crowd wasn't especially into it. I almost fell asleep
Speaker 1: in the press box again a me thing, but I
Speaker 1: came away. Look, if I had gone to that, the
Speaker 1: the Honey Badger LSU West Virginia game that was like
Speaker 1: a yellow out, if you remember, I would have had
Speaker 1: a stellar time at West Virginia. This was just the
Speaker 1: choice of game I went to, though, so this is
Speaker 1: more on me than it is on West Virginia, more
Speaker 1: on Clemson. But those were those were two memories where
Speaker 1: I'm like, early kick, not a lot of energy, not
Speaker 1: a lot of juice. I don't know, not into it.
Speaker 1: Every school has them, that's just those are the games
Speaker 1: that I happened to go to. I at Penn State,
Speaker 1: I went to a big game that was a Notre
Speaker 1: Dame Jimmy classon game. That was what that was how
Speaker 1: we met correct. And then the Tennessee game was a
Speaker 1: Florida game. It was a t bow game, so that
Speaker 1: was it was. There was a lot of energy, a
Speaker 1: lot of juice in those stadiums, but that was that
Speaker 1: was the fan variants. Texas A and M was actually
Speaker 1: a little bit disappointing, but it was another one of
Speaker 1: those matchups. But Texas A and M had Chick fil
Speaker 1: A in the press box, so that goes a long way.
Speaker 1: That goes a long way. But I I didn't spend
Speaker 1: that much time in college station. I flew in and
Speaker 1: out of Houston. Oregon State didn't do a lot for me.
Speaker 1: It was a fun game because I got to go
Speaker 1: see an Oregon Oregon State game Platypus Cup, win the
Speaker 1: platte But Corvallis fine, But you know, didn't I stayed outside,
Speaker 1: like in the Salem area, so I didn't really spend
Speaker 1: that much time, uh in a in Corvallis. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there are just some places out there, like you go
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl. There's not much juice in the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl for an average UCLA game, so that, yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, it was There were definitely places where the
Speaker 1: games weren't that big, but you could tell this was
Speaker 1: a fully dedicated operation by the fan base, by the
Speaker 1: school right to blowing it out like LSU was LSU
Speaker 1: South Carolina. It was an inconsequential game. It was rainy,
Speaker 1: it was an incredible experience, and so there were places
Speaker 1: like that. You know, Washington had that. Washington was very
Speaker 1: energetic in a place that I suggest a lot of
Speaker 1: people try and get to. If you're if you're hopping
Speaker 1: around the country going to college football games, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I think the best. I went to a big o'hig
Speaker 1: state game which was very fun at the shoe. I
Speaker 1: think it was Ohio State Penn State. Even though was
Speaker 1: pretty low scoring, that was great. It was just a
Speaker 1: great time. Yeah, in the big ten, I would just
Speaker 1: suggest that people go to Camp Randall when you ask me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to end this on a more positive note.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there are there are those sort of juiceless places.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure it has more to do with my
Speaker 1: selection of game than the place itself. Next question, Dan,
Speaker 1: all right, was that an acceptable answer to you?
Speaker 2: Of course? Okay, of course it's our damn show.
Speaker 1: Okay, do whatever we want. Your question again, I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I hit him.
Speaker 2: Oregon is seventy six in Bill Connolly's Returning Production index. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean everything, but it's a guide. I think
Speaker 2: it is especially important to note Oregon because not only
Speaker 2: are they losing a lot offense, especially, but they also
Speaker 2: lost Mary Crystobaal who goes to Miami, and they're employing
Speaker 2: a first time head coach and Dan Lanning who doesn't
Speaker 2: really have have a ton of familiarity with the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1: West Coast pac twelve. You're correct. Yeah, he was at
Speaker 1: ASU briefly when he was very young. That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you take all those factors into consideration. I
Speaker 2: think you also got a factor in a schedule that
Speaker 2: to me looks kind of tricky. Sure, not the least
Speaker 2: of which is Labor Day weekend when they're.
Speaker 1: Wait, does it? I feel like, well, it's not to
Speaker 1: take a look at it.
Speaker 2: If you take a look at it, it is certainly
Speaker 2: not the hardest schedule that they could play. But I
Speaker 2: think that first month of action will be very trying. Sure,
Speaker 2: because anytime you open up with Georgia, they got a
Speaker 2: BYU team that brings a lot back by you should
Speaker 2: be pretty good. Again. Yeah, Eastern Washington, They've got a
Speaker 2: game later in the year, I believe against Utah, that's
Speaker 2: at home. But it's like there are you could find
Speaker 2: land mines in that schedule. So I have to ask
Speaker 2: the question here in your mind. I don't know how
Speaker 2: closely you've paid attention to it. It is late March.
Speaker 2: Based on what you know now, what is the range
Speaker 2: of possible outcomes for this Oregon team going into next season?
Speaker 2: And furthermore, oh, which of those outcomes or which possible
Speaker 2: thing that could happen would actually leave you concerned about
Speaker 2: Dan Lanninger whether he can do the job at organ.
Speaker 1: There's very little that he could or couldn't do in
Speaker 1: year one that will have me worried unless there is
Speaker 1: a locker room abandonment issue that he is not the
Speaker 1: grown up in the room. And it's becoming clear right
Speaker 1: away that to me would be the only thing in
Speaker 1: year one be like, oh man, he can't handle coaching
Speaker 1: a major program as a head coach. The variety of
Speaker 1: outcomes hinges on what I assume to be Bo Nicks
Speaker 1: and whatever the ratio of good Bow to bad Bo is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was at Auburn. Auburn fans
Speaker 1: can certainly weigh in that it was like a forty
Speaker 1: sixty experience, a thirty to seventy experience, certainly with the
Speaker 1: way he finished his career. There, you know, the Texas
Speaker 1: A and M game. He made some plays, but they
Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown. I did score, they didn't get
Speaker 1: into the end zone. So it was arguably his worst
Speaker 1: statistical performance of his career, and it was his second
Speaker 1: to last game, his penultimate game at Auburn. But three
Speaker 1: of those four games how he finished his Auburn career
Speaker 1: were pretty promising. The Old miss game, the Arkansas game,
Speaker 1: and at least the first half of that Mississippi State game.
Speaker 1: So if Oregon gets seventy thirty good bow to bad Bo,
Speaker 1: that's an outcome in which Oregon with a very experienced
Speaker 1: offensive line, promising receivers, a good but thin running back
Speaker 1: room Byron Cardwell's a new full time guy with Travis
Speaker 1: Steim moving to USC and CJ. Verdella entering the draft. Defensively,
Speaker 1: the lines in a decent place. Linebacker has those two
Speaker 1: five stars. Secondaries a little bit thin, but they brought
Speaker 1: in at least a transfer at corner. They were hit
Speaker 1: by the portal a little bit. They lost a key corner,
Speaker 1: a rotation defensive lineman. They lost guys in the portal.
Speaker 1: The big thing to me is going to be I
Speaker 1: think the schedule is fantastic. The Georgia game, who cares whatever,
Speaker 1: it's game one, it's on the road, it's playing in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: but they're road games within the PAC twelve at Wazoo
Speaker 1: new full time head coach and Jake Tickert. At Arizona,
Speaker 1: which still has a long ways to go, but improving,
Speaker 1: At Cal which has not had an offense and has
Speaker 1: not really been anything beyond a vague Bowl threat. At Colorado,
Speaker 1: which is trending in the wrong direction. And at Oregon State,
Speaker 1: which is feisty but shouldn't be deep enough or talented
Speaker 1: enough to beat Oregon. Now they do have Utah and
Speaker 1: Washington in it looks like consecutive weeks. They have Ucla
Speaker 1: after a bye week, but that's it's in Eugene. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think the schedule's fun.
Speaker 2: It's a good home schedule. It's a good home schedule.
Speaker 1: It's a really good road home split.
Speaker 2: You know, you could definitely make the case that Utah
Speaker 2: is going to be loaded again. They'll be decent. Maybe
Speaker 2: Ucla gets better. I don't know. Right, I think Stanford
Speaker 2: has to get better. You would think they have to
Speaker 2: get better. I don't know, right. So you know, as
Speaker 2: we've seen time and again with some of these PAC
Speaker 2: twelve schedules, sometimes it's the games you don't know, the
Speaker 2: games that don't jump out at you in March, that
Speaker 2: are the ones that end up taking you down.
Speaker 1: The problem for me with Oregon and I think there
Speaker 1: is a lot of upside because I still think they're
Speaker 1: more talented than anybody on their schedule. So that's a
Speaker 1: good place to start on their Pack twelve schedule. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: not more talented than Georgia first time head coach, first
Speaker 1: time full play calling, offensive coordinator, and quarterback transfer. Which
Speaker 1: we use the word cocktail last episode about rivalry games,
Speaker 1: and you know, the spiciest, most balanced cocktails. It doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like an especially promising cocktail because there's so much unknown.
Speaker 1: What is the vision Dan Lanning has for his offense?
Speaker 1: What is the vision Kenny Dillingham has for his offense?
Speaker 1: After spending time with both cosmels On and Mike Norvell,
Speaker 1: and I am just never a huge fan in having
Speaker 1: to talk yourself into a QB. Now there have been
Speaker 1: guys who have gone from fine to really good or
Speaker 1: after thought to surprisingly good after two three years of
Speaker 1: playing or being a backup and not being able to
Speaker 1: crack a starting lineup. You look at like what Will
Speaker 1: Levis did at Kentucky. He transfers to Kentucky they need
Speaker 1: a quarterback post Terry Wilson. Expectations. The bar wasn't set
Speaker 1: particularly high with Terry Wilson. I think it was Eddie
Speaker 1: Grant was the offensive coordinator at Kentucky. They just sort
Speaker 1: of handed the ball off a lot, and Liam Conan
Speaker 1: will Levis fully and completely soared past all expectations. Last
Speaker 1: year Kentucky went ten and three.
Speaker 2: Will Levis said, like you could not have imagined Will Levis.
Speaker 2: I think he was sixty six percent right.
Speaker 1: And you know, Wandelle Robinson comes in like that was
Speaker 1: a surprise that you had to talk yourself into. Will
Speaker 1: Levis and Liam Cohen succeeding together and they exceeded expectations,
Speaker 1: and that happens like I would imagine Pitt fans were
Speaker 1: fine with Kenny Pickett heading into last year, like he's experienced,
Speaker 1: He's a calming influence, he knows the system, he's comfortable
Speaker 1: in the ACC. He's one of the best quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the ACC. Completely exceeds expectations last year. Right, So there
Speaker 1: are those situations. The problem is those seem to be
Speaker 1: exceptions to the rule when you have to talk yourself
Speaker 1: into a quarterback of like, oh well, maybe it's a
Speaker 1: fresh start. Oh well, maybe he looks like he did
Speaker 1: at the end of his career. Oh well, maybe he
Speaker 1: just needs the you know, the lack of pressure at
Speaker 1: all in that voice specifically. Yeah, that's a problem to
Speaker 1: me if you're talking yourself into a quarterback with his
Speaker 1: known flaws and what they're up against in terms of
Speaker 1: the unknown. I don't know. I think the best case
Speaker 1: scenario for Oregon is they lose to they lose to Georgia,
Speaker 1: and they lose to Utah and they're able to sneak
Speaker 1: out the rest of their schedule go ten and two
Speaker 1: because bo Nicks has decent enough command and he's not
Speaker 1: the reason they lose games, not necessarily the reason they
Speaker 1: win games, but he does enough to so that every
Speaker 1: Oregon fan and every college football fan watched their games
Speaker 1: and says, prey solid ten two way one.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I think the PAC twelve is in a place, right now,
Speaker 1: and I'm terribly concerned about the quarterback room moving forward.
Speaker 1: The thing that would actually concern me. You asked about
Speaker 1: what would be concerning about Dan Lanning in year one?
Speaker 1: What does he do at quarterback for the future? Right now,
Speaker 1: Oregon has three former blue chip quarterbacks in that room, Bonix,
Speaker 1: Jay Butterfield, and Ty Thompson. You would be hard pressed
Speaker 1: to find an Oregon fan confident in the position moving forward. Now,
Speaker 1: Oregon's major target in this current recruiting cycle, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: is going to Tennessee. At least that's what we figure
Speaker 1: is going to happen. He's going to end up at Tennessee.
Speaker 1: There are other interesting quarterback prospects on the West Coast.
Speaker 1: I don't follow it particularly closely. If Dan Lanning fully
Speaker 1: strikes out in terms of bringing in an interesting, high
Speaker 1: ceiling type quarterback in this class and has to depend
Speaker 1: on the portal once again, I mean, who do we
Speaker 1: suspect is going to be out there? We could talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, Miller Moss and Hudson Cart and all these
Speaker 1: guys that are you know, former blue chip guys who
Speaker 1: are sitting on the bench. But if he is not
Speaker 1: able to secure a quarterback of the future in this class,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be concerned, but I'd file it away thinking
Speaker 1: huh huh, because I know you need time to build
Speaker 1: up those relationships as a head coach and your offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: and nobody knows what Oregon system is going to be,
Speaker 1: so that's more difficult for quarterbacks to know. Like, you
Speaker 1: have an idea of what Tommy Reese is gonna do
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame with a new full time head coach,
Speaker 1: You have an idea at Brian Kelly and like, what's
Speaker 1: his name? Who's the offensive coordinator for LSU Denbrock, Denbrock,
Speaker 1: I was thinking to bored, Mike Denbrock, you have an ideal,
Speaker 1: you know what Billion Apier's probably gonna do ish at Florida.
Speaker 1: Oregon's the mystery there, and so they have work to
Speaker 1: do in explaining and showing future quarterbacks what Oregon's offense
Speaker 1: is going to be. So that would be the concern
Speaker 1: to me near one that that Dan Lanning does not
Speaker 1: lock in a promising quarterback of the future.
Speaker 2: That was a very thoughtful answer, Dan, Thank you, Thank
Speaker 2: you toy for sharing that with me.
Speaker 1: Let's move on and if you fast forwarded past all
Speaker 1: of my Oregon gibberish. Welcome back, Welcome back.
Speaker 2: Question four. Yeah, gonna begin the part of this episode
Speaker 2: where we start to take you a little bit out
Speaker 2: of your comfort zone. Yeah, rank your top five players
Speaker 2: in the upcoming NFL draft.
Speaker 1: To find top five like who I think should go
Speaker 1: one through five or my five favorite players who are
Speaker 1: mocked to be first round ish.
Speaker 2: I don't think either you or I are qualified to
Speaker 2: actually do the mock draft thing.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not.
Speaker 2: I'm not asking that question from that perspective. I am
Speaker 2: essentially saying, yes, of the guys who are projected to
Speaker 2: go highly in next month's draft, sure, give me your
Speaker 2: top five, top five guys that you saw him in college.
Speaker 2: And like a lot of us are convinced every year
Speaker 2: when you know, somebody drops a little to Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: or whoever, I mean, he didn't drop very far, but
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Guys who we see in college, we know
Speaker 2: they're going to be good in the pros. But you
Speaker 2: know who kind of fits that bill as we go
Speaker 2: into the draft.
Speaker 1: It's pretty straightforward to me, both of the inside linebackers
Speaker 1: who are mocked to be first round guys, and maybe
Speaker 1: there are more than two, but Devin Lloyd and n
Speaker 1: Kobe Dean were absolute joys to watch as they destroyed
Speaker 1: the hopes and dreams of offenses that Utah and Georgia faced.
Speaker 1: Love Evan Neil. Love somebody that is that athletic at
Speaker 1: that size. I don't know if you saw what Evan
Speaker 1: Neil looks like with like just underwear on, just you know,
Speaker 1: his combine pant. No, I'm telling you, like physically, there
Speaker 1: is something that is so terrifying about somebody who is
Speaker 1: I don't know what his current measurement is, like.
Speaker 2: Six seven, three thirty seven. I can tell you there
Speaker 2: is definitely a moment in time in the not too
Speaker 2: distant past where a six to seven linebacker with his
Speaker 2: shirt off kind of looks like a blob.
Speaker 1: You mean you mean linemen lineman?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, yeah, yeah, Evan Neil. Evan Neil looks like
Speaker 2: you play in the NBA. Yes, I mean he's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yes, there is something so impressive about just being a
Speaker 1: big dude and opping a fat dude with carrying all
Speaker 1: that weight and that's that's three thirty five or whatever
Speaker 1: that he's down to from I think what he played
Speaker 1: at which was close to like three sixty. I think
Speaker 1: during the season Aaron Donald was that way too. We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's three hundre pounds these two hundred ninety punds whatever
Speaker 1: he is. He's like, he's two hundred ninety pounds of
Speaker 1: must soul of good mass. And so guys like that
Speaker 1: are so impressive to me that they're able to perform
Speaker 1: athletically the way that they are and build themselves up
Speaker 1: to that point. So Evan Neil is there, Both of
Speaker 1: those linebackers are there. Drake London. I just feel so
Speaker 1: bad for Drake London was completely and fully unstoppable, made
Speaker 1: essentially what amounted to a bad decision to go to
Speaker 1: USC because of how everything turned out at USC, and
Speaker 1: was just not playing in consequential games for the most part.
Speaker 1: And so I just am hopeful for him that he's
Speaker 1: healthy and ends up somewhere where he can immediately impact
Speaker 1: winning because I just feel bad because he was unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew the ball was going to him, didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Drake London and probably Kaveon Thibodeau just because I'm a
Speaker 1: dumb Oregon homer. Caveon Thibodeau was beat up for a
Speaker 1: good chunk of last year, didn't even play in that
Speaker 1: Ohio State win. So I'm hopeful for him and for Oregon,
Speaker 1: and that's something that you know, Oregon can recruit around,
Speaker 1: not just his success in college, but his success and
Speaker 1: getting drafted highly and going to the pros. Because Oregon
Speaker 1: has had, like, very quietly, a good amount of success
Speaker 1: at defensive line in the draft recently with Eric Armstead
Speaker 1: and DeForest Buckner. So I'm hopeful that that Kveon Thibodeau
Speaker 1: keeps that going. There's other guys I like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of drafting running backs and
Speaker 1: receivers generally speaking, in the first round. I think the
Speaker 1: focus should be on lineman quarterback. I see a lot
Speaker 1: of people seem to love, you know, Mina Kimes loves
Speaker 1: Malik Willis and hopes that he ends up with the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: I hope it works out for him too. Uh. He
Speaker 1: just seems like a very fun player and hopefully has
Speaker 1: a good NFL career. I hope it. You know, Kenny
Speaker 1: Pickett and his tiny hands, I hope that works out
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: I don't really like it. I mean, I like, but yeah,
Speaker 2: in terms of draft ability. For whatever it's worth coming
Speaker 2: from me, I don't really like any of the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: I just I'm a corral Yeah, Sam Howell.
Speaker 2: No, I'm good. I'm good. If my team needs a quarterback,
Speaker 2: I say, take something else. My team does need a
Speaker 2: quarterback desperately, We're stuck with Daniel Jones. I think for it.
Speaker 1: So you just want Jimmy Garoppolo. Is that what you're
Speaker 1: looking for?
Speaker 2: No, just take lineman. It's a deep lineman draft. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of good linemen.
Speaker 1: Take lineman the guy from Mississippi State, NC State.
Speaker 2: Take defenders like build from the lines out and actually
Speaker 2: build the team right. But don't I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want any of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Who else you're gonna miss other than Kyle Hamilton who's
Speaker 1: projected to be.
Speaker 2: Like Kyle Hamilton? Is my answer? He might be my
Speaker 2: one through three. I love me some Kyle Hamilton. Some
Speaker 2: other names that I think jump out to me. Yes,
Speaker 2: and kind of going through the sex well, I mean
Speaker 2: you mentioned Devin Lloyd, n Kobe Dean, yep, I you
Speaker 2: know he kind of took those from me. I would
Speaker 2: also throw out as just like another name that I
Speaker 2: feel badly for, David o'jabo hurt his leg.
Speaker 1: I saw that in Michigan opposite, which sucks. You know
Speaker 1: that that sucks so bad, like it's Achilles something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: super serious, right, super serious.
Speaker 2: Although they're saying a six month recovery, which apparently they
Speaker 2: can do that now in six months. But David o'jabo,
Speaker 2: I think, is a name that you know, I want
Speaker 2: to succeed. Aiden Hutchinson. I don't know if you mentioned him,
Speaker 2: but Aiden Hutchinson, with the impact that he had, maybe
Speaker 2: not so much in the playoffs, but certainly throughout the
Speaker 2: course of the season and his college career at Michigan,
Speaker 2: is another guy that's really easy to root for, as
Speaker 2: is George carl Loftis. George carloftis like sort of came
Speaker 2: out of nowhere in a sense. It was very dominant.
Speaker 1: I think he was hurt his sophomore year, I want
Speaker 1: to say, and bounce back in a big way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he bounced back to a big way, damn.
Speaker 2: But it's not like there was a ton of preseason steam.
Speaker 2: George carl loftis the way there was on Kaevon Thibodeau, right,
Speaker 2: right totally. The season that he had definitely opened some eyes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'd probably throw those three guys out there. Hutchinson,
Speaker 2: carloftis so jabo in addition to Hamilton, and if I'm
Speaker 2: going to throw one other guy on there, I'll go
Speaker 2: to corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was gonna be my bonus. Jonas continue.
Speaker 2: I know everybody's in on Sauce Gardner, and I get
Speaker 2: that he's got great size, He's super as a cover corner.
Speaker 1: Remember when Notre Dame decided to throw it at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do, I do. I was gonna say
Speaker 2: extingly though, And he's a guy who also was battling injury.
Speaker 2: He's a guy who I remember when he came out
Speaker 2: of high school, many folks in the recruiting world were saying,
Speaker 2: much like they did with Adrian Peterson, if you want
Speaker 2: to go pro now, somebody would take him and he
Speaker 2: could probably play at that level. So, you know, been
Speaker 2: a bit of a mixed bag at LSU. No one
Speaker 2: doubts the talent, and I'm curious to see what he
Speaker 2: can do at the next level, and I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 2: So with your five off the board, those are my
Speaker 2: next five.
Speaker 1: Done all right.
Speaker 2: Final football question, Daniel hey May, what is your analysis
Speaker 2: of the purported Joe Buck for the Penn State Purdue
Speaker 2: game trade that went down apparently between ESPN and Purdue.
Speaker 2: So like, there's a Fox, ESPN and Fox. What did
Speaker 2: I say, Yeah, Purdue? No, like definitely different ESPN and Fox.
Speaker 2: In case you have not been keeping yourself up to
Speaker 2: date with what's going on in the sports media world,
Speaker 2: Joe baka Troy ak beIN leaving Fox going over to
Speaker 2: ESPA to do Monday Night football big deal in sports
Speaker 2: media circles. But as part of that move to bring
Speaker 2: Joe Buck over to ESPN from Fox, it's been reported
Speaker 2: that there was a trade. That there was a trade.
Speaker 2: This requires some understanding of how games get allotted and
Speaker 2: how games get assigned out to different networks throughout the
Speaker 2: course of a given week. I'm not going to go
Speaker 2: into all of that.
Speaker 1: There's a draft. I believe it's a draft. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Kind of cool. I didn't know about it until I
Speaker 2: read about this, but yeah, it's like a whole a
Speaker 2: whole thing that they built in so that the networks
Speaker 2: can pick off the games that makes sense to them.
Speaker 2: But as part of that. Apparently the game that was
Speaker 2: traded to Fox from ESPN as part of this Joe
Speaker 2: Buck acquisition. I guess we can say, yeah, was Penn
Speaker 2: State Purdue.
Speaker 1: What do you think I think I would watch it
Speaker 1: regardless Joe Bucker the game, the game, so Aidan O'Connell's back, right,
Speaker 1: He's back Aiden O'Connell. So he went to the same
Speaker 1: high school as Jody with an eye, So I've got
Speaker 1: a soft spot there. He's sting. This receiving room is
Speaker 1: not going to be as good this year without David Bell.
Speaker 2: It also got Brady Allen, who they're bringing in.
Speaker 1: I am I am thinking for the money, ESPN probably
Speaker 1: got the better of the deal because Monday night football
Speaker 1: is such a good cornerstone franchise, broadcast franchise. But I
Speaker 1: guess I'm happy for Fox that they got Penn State Perdue.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it just kind of seems like,
Speaker 1: given where these teams are right now, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a B game like this. This was not a
Speaker 1: because the original rumor was what Penn State, Ohio State
Speaker 1: something like that. Now, Notre Dame, Ohio State, notme Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Right to open up the year, and that I think
Speaker 1: Burke Magnus, who runs things for ESPN, came out and
Speaker 1: denied that specific story. Was al Michaels not traded at
Speaker 1: a certain point Oswald the Rabbits during his Disney because
Speaker 1: he was at ABC and then went to NBC, And
Speaker 1: so this is this is not the first trade that
Speaker 1: you know asset to be named later. So Oswald the
Speaker 1: Rabbit I think was an original property of Disney that
Speaker 1: perhaps I think Universal had ownership over and Disney wanted
Speaker 1: him back. So Oswald the Rabbit is now back in
Speaker 1: the Disney archive. I believe I got that story right.
Speaker 1: I like it. The fascinating thing to me is just
Speaker 1: more broadly speaking with the broadcast movement, is Thursday Night
Speaker 1: is now Amazon? Correct? Correct, Thursday Night NFL is now Amazon.
Speaker 1: The college tie in is Kirk herb Street is calling
Speaker 1: that game with al Michaels. Right.
Speaker 2: Was al Michaels announced as the I believe so I
Speaker 2: think Kirkhurbstreet tweeted it out or instagrammed it out that
Speaker 2: al Michaels and Kirkhurbstreet will be calling the Thursday night
Speaker 2: Amazon game, which I.
Speaker 1: Think is being produced by NBC. So I think al
Speaker 1: Michaels is still going to work with his familiar NBC crew,
Speaker 1: but has left NBC and is not doing Sunday Night.
Speaker 2: They're probably pay I'm assuming.
Speaker 1: They're probably playing him a pretty penny. Yeah, So kirkhurb
Speaker 1: Street now will be doing what Thursday night football Game
Speaker 1: Day and Saturday Night Football. That's a haul. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: and announcers And like our pal Adam Amine has been
Speaker 1: calling multiple sports multiple days and this is not a
Speaker 1: new thing. But to do a three four hour live
Speaker 1: show on Saturday morning, after a turnaround on Friday, doing
Speaker 1: the Thursday night game different sport, and then traveling again
Speaker 1: potentially Saturday afternoon to call the night game, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: So you have Joe Buckentreigman to Monday Night Football ESPN,
Speaker 1: kirkhurbs Street to Amazon in addition to his ESPN responsibilities.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen with the Fox guys,
Speaker 1: because now you're going to have openings at Fox, Like
Speaker 1: is Joe Davis going to now do NFL games? Is
Speaker 1: Gus Johnson going to do NFL games? Are they doubling
Speaker 1: up college and NFL? I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: those are the two big names doing college.
Speaker 2: It'll be very interesting to see. I'm sort of hung
Speaker 2: up on the trading of assets in different universes.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that possibility. Okay, so let me take
Speaker 1: it to you and make it personal. Please. If ESPN
Speaker 1: came to me and said, we are throwing a million
Speaker 1: dollars at you to spearhead a new college football podcast,
Speaker 1: you have to leave the solid vert give them any ideas.
Speaker 1: But well, I'm letting you know this. I know they
Speaker 1: take our stuff. What would commiserate value be for me?
Speaker 1: If ESPN went to you and said, we understand, we
Speaker 1: fully decap the Soliverble, the tandem that is tyinged in right,
Speaker 1: how can we make this right from an asset perspective
Speaker 1: because we know the Soliverble is under contract with whoever.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean for.
Speaker 1: You have ESPN, you have Disney, you have ABC, you
Speaker 1: have all the properties within that umbrella.
Speaker 2: For starters, I need the nft of the original ESPN
Speaker 2: two logo because I don't know what they did with
Speaker 2: that thing, but that lives in infamy.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the scratchy yeah, yeah, it's just it's got a
Speaker 2: street feel to it. I need that so I need that. However,
Speaker 2: they can signify that I have ownership of the mod.
Speaker 1: Well, think about specific things since think about like the
Speaker 1: ESPN things, the physical things that are meaningful to you,
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned ESPN two. Would you want like Carl
Speaker 1: Ravitch's leather jacket when they were trying to make ESPN
Speaker 1: two cool, or like Susie Kolver's like remember they were
Speaker 1: they had him dressed down. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: Keith Ober and somebody like what are the physical ESPN
Speaker 1: or Disney or I guess ABC if it was if
Speaker 1: a TV show was produced by ABC, Like would you
Speaker 1: want the tool time set in your house? Wow? That
Speaker 1: was an ABC show? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no?
Speaker 1: Would you want a display case of like Arkles glasses?
Speaker 2: There really is an open playbook here in terms of
Speaker 2: things that you would ask for. The broader question is
Speaker 2: what are you worth?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You know how so it have
Speaker 1: to be worth it to ESPN?
Speaker 2: How aggressive could we get this? I mean, could we
Speaker 2: get the rights to Family Matters? It's not we It's
Speaker 2: not we could I but it's now just you could
Speaker 2: sOliver old media, Like do you want.
Speaker 1: To syndicate Family Matters? On what would we get we
Speaker 1: get the rights to that? No, that's probably too much step.
Speaker 2: By step little Suzanne Summers? Could we do that? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I don't think you could get step by Step.
Speaker 1: I don't think you get family matters.
Speaker 2: But Boy Meets World? What about Boy Meets the World
Speaker 2: too much?
Speaker 1: BMW's too much? Which could you have a negotiation about
Speaker 1: hanging with mister Cooper? I think that becomes interesting? Wow,
Speaker 1: like B level tgif Yeah? What are the other pieces
Speaker 1: of ESPN memorabilias like old X game stuff? Like do
Speaker 1: you want Mike Patrick and his audio archive? Do you want? Like? Uh?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like other ESPN physical things
Speaker 1: that would be meaningful to you as a token in
Speaker 1: your home, Like would you want Keith Jackson's yellow ABC jacket. See,
Speaker 1: I'm not big on the memorabilia thing, okay, but I
Speaker 1: tell you what I wouldn't mind having. I wouldn't mind
Speaker 1: having exclusive ownership of all the ESPN commercials they've done
Speaker 1: over the years. Oh that's good, But what would you
Speaker 1: do with it?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'd resell them on the internet
Speaker 2: and money off it. But all right, you know the
Speaker 2: Y two K with Charlie Steiner.
Speaker 1: How about this? How about this?
Speaker 2: It's never iffy if it's Griffy with Kenny Maine.
Speaker 1: What if ESPN agreed to cast you in one of
Speaker 1: those commercials like and you got to choose any past
Speaker 1: or present ESPN personality and team. You know, oh, their kneecap,
Speaker 1: their knee cap in me, I quit up here in
Speaker 1: the commercial.
Speaker 2: I quit my job for this.
Speaker 1: I know that's true.
Speaker 2: So if they're taking you away, they're ending the business.
Speaker 2: We're done. It's done. I don't have the Donzo sound,
Speaker 2: but we're done, right, So you got to make it
Speaker 2: worth my while.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody at ESPN or ABC, Slash Disney that
Speaker 1: you would replace me with? That you would that would
Speaker 1: just be a swap. See, now that's interesting, a clean swap.
Speaker 1: So they just hired Pete Thamil. We don't really know Pete.
Speaker 1: I don't know Pete. Yeah, yeah, Bill Connolly, ESPN.
Speaker 2: Bill Connolly's an interesting poll.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's bringing Rubenstein energy though it's different.
Speaker 1: You have all the people on air, right, all the
Speaker 1: people that call college games, Like, do you think you
Speaker 1: could replace me with a A Niche shroff a Dave Pash.
Speaker 1: Do you think you would do the show with Bill Walton?
Speaker 2: I think Bill Walton would do the show with Bill Walton.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's not there's not enough microphones for
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: You could go outside of football and hire somebody calling
Speaker 1: you want to the show? They rod, No, No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I mean, if we could somehow
Speaker 2: incorporate the Jack Fowlers skill. Sure, if we could somehow
Speaker 2: incorporate Fouler into this now, he's probably I don't mean
Speaker 2: to be derogatory towards you. Uh, I don't think you'll
Speaker 2: take it as such, But Fowler's got more value than you.
Speaker 2: So could I get him on a limited basis to
Speaker 2: be part of the content of.
Speaker 1: The show, recurring like a recurring guest, kind of like.
Speaker 2: We had with Bill c Sure, Like, could I bring
Speaker 2: him on for a Patreon show? People would pay for that?
Speaker 2: Fitness tips with Chris? People would pay for fitness tips
Speaker 2: with Chris. You've seen his biceps on Instagram. You know
Speaker 2: what that's all about. Sure, this is a very complex question.
Speaker 2: I did not expect you to turn it around on me.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I will be putting together a list of demands,
Speaker 2: and like a good athletic director, I will keep it
Speaker 2: in my top drawer in the event that's something cataclysmic
Speaker 2: like this were to occur.
Speaker 1: What if it was like a demand that every opening
Speaker 1: Day you get to watch every single baseball game with
Speaker 1: Tim Kirkchin.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like Tim Kirkchin. But again, you're nuking
Speaker 2: my business.
Speaker 1: No, I know, no, I know. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: come up with something appealing to you as a human.
Speaker 2: All Right, I have I have two other questions written
Speaker 2: down here. We're gonna do one. Do you want me
Speaker 2: to do the bug one or the uh sleep deprivation one?
Speaker 2: Sleep deprivation Dan Rubinstein.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that was the wrong button. No, that's right,
Speaker 1: leave that in there. I'll leave it in.
Speaker 2: They'll both stay in. What is the latest you have
Speaker 2: voluntary What is the latest you have voluntarily stayed up
Speaker 2: stayed awake? Yeah, in the last twelve months.
Speaker 1: Well, I've had an infant voluntarily stayed up. So that
Speaker 1: was not my choice. That was because I had anice.
Speaker 2: You had to society life.
Speaker 1: Yes, right from my teet. The latest I have probably
Speaker 1: stayed up has probably been no later than twelve thirty am.
Speaker 2: Did you see the ball because I was New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1: No, of course, but I never do that. I was
Speaker 1: probably watching a movie or like I got hooked on,
Speaker 1: like Drive to Survive or some show that I just
Speaker 1: wanted to keep watching. U. There are times because I
Speaker 1: played tennis on Thursday nights. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever did this when you were because you played softball,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you ever did like a
Speaker 1: more rigorous like sport physical activity.
Speaker 2: How dare you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I went there. When you're done playing, you're
Speaker 1: still juiced up. Yeah, I don't know if Like I
Speaker 1: remember talking to my dad about this when he would
Speaker 1: like play poker until like ten to eleven at night
Speaker 1: with a bunch of buddies, but he was thinking about
Speaker 1: all of his hands and he still had a lot
Speaker 1: of energy from playing, so he would be up till
Speaker 1: one two am. It's not that.
Speaker 2: Different than when you watch a really high level college
Speaker 2: football game that runs deep into the night and you're
Speaker 2: into it and it just takes after the national championship,
Speaker 2: we were pretty jazzed up.
Speaker 1: We were just late. Did we stay up that night?
Speaker 1: That was one of my later nights. I was close
Speaker 1: to midnight I was past twelve thirty twelve. That was Eastern. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in God's time zone now, yeah, somewhere in that,
Speaker 1: in that realm, that twelve thirty realm. I just don't
Speaker 1: have it in me. Like even those late games, the
Speaker 1: Pac twelve games. I get up early and watch him
Speaker 1: in the morning that I miss. There's there's no Pac
Speaker 1: twelve game. And I'm pretty good now because I have
Speaker 1: the YouTube TV. I'm pretty good. Now. I'll just you know,
Speaker 1: throw it to the cloud DVR. I'll avoid my phone,
Speaker 1: I'll charge in another room, I'll avoid even if it's
Speaker 1: an organ game. I'll just get up at five and
Speaker 1: you know, skim through it then. So now there, I
Speaker 1: don't have it. I just I'm trying to think. I
Speaker 1: don't think, and I know it's not a fantastic answer.
Speaker 1: What the latest you stayed up? Is what?
Speaker 2: I've been up very late doing what? Nothing in particular,
Speaker 2: But I've been up till three four?
Speaker 1: So what are you doing at two forty four am?
Speaker 2: Going down a YouTube rabbit hole? Sure, clicking around on
Speaker 2: the computer, playing around on the phone.
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: Are you doing that in bed? Are you doing that
Speaker 1: in a living room?
Speaker 2: Mostly in the living room, I'd say, yeah, yeah, mostly
Speaker 2: in the living room, but nothing exciting. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: a man, and you.
Speaker 1: Can function after two three hours of sleep? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, See when I was working thiserious day job, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was up and down and just unable to
Speaker 2: sleep through the night because of stress and the crushing
Speaker 2: weight of the job.
Speaker 1: I was like, you can listen to it in full detail.
Speaker 2: Com you know. I was getting sleep, just not in
Speaker 2: any kind of continuous fashion. And you had to function
Speaker 2: the next day, so you did it. But no, can
Speaker 2: I function? I only have two hours of sleep? Not really?
Speaker 1: Are you watching anything now?
Speaker 2: Any shows?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Solid? Wife Kate watched Inventing Anna?
Speaker 1: No you? Why are you addressed a paw? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she watched that. I didn't watch it. I just
Speaker 2: saw some of the interviews with the real Anna that
Speaker 2: Kate watched after the fact, and I've decided I'm not
Speaker 2: really interested watching that show. Okay, So yeah, I went
Speaker 2: back and I watched Jack Ryan season one again again again, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: second time. Season one good, Season two, I Get back
Speaker 2: to You. Season two left a little bit to be desired,
Speaker 2: So I watched that was in a mood I am
Speaker 2: waiting to get rolling on Marvelous Missus Maisel.
Speaker 1: Hmm, I'm current. It's good latest season. But the latest
Speaker 1: season only had eight episodes. But yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Waiting, waiting to get caught up on that one. And
Speaker 2: then there are a couple others that have been sent
Speaker 2: to me. I watch Hacks that I tell you watch Hacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's really good, right, it was good? Yeah, yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But as for current stuff that I'm watching, sort of
Speaker 2: an open book. I really could go for something to
Speaker 2: fill that void of like a Jack Ryan type of show.
Speaker 1: I'm dangerously close to rewatching Breaking Bad, dangerously close.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also, do you watch Better Call Saul? No? Did
Speaker 1: you do Breaking Bad?
Speaker 2: I did Breaking Bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to do Better Call Saul? Better Call.
Speaker 2: I started it, I couldn't get into it.
Speaker 1: Keep you gotta keep going. It's so good. The new
Speaker 1: season starts I think next month time. I'm jacked about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there it is, Yeah, there it is. I've been saving
Speaker 1: that sound drop for quite some time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you pulled it out at the right time, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I was just a little little treat for people who've
Speaker 1: been paying attention to this entire time. Got ah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I stayed up late the other night, Friday night,
Speaker 1: I think, watching a couple of the newer south Park episodes.
Speaker 1: There was an episode about city city people moving to
Speaker 1: south Park and all they only say, like seven words,
Speaker 1: people moving from the city and driving up real estate
Speaker 1: prices in south Park, in which Cartman becomes a real
Speaker 1: estate agent south Park Realty Group and all of the
Speaker 1: city folk they come in and all they say is
Speaker 1: bottled water MacBook pro pilates Tesla bottled water, Tesla plates MacBook.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's pretty great as a city person
Speaker 1: currently moving to a nonhu suburb. Anyway, Uh, it was
Speaker 1: good and I stayed up pretty late for me watching it.
Speaker 1: Very boring.
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Speaker 1: I try Hey.
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 2: I think it's on Paramount Plus Great.
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Speaker 2: I don't own Paramount Plus. It was not included in
Speaker 2: the trade for you.
Speaker 1: But are you a subscriber?
Speaker 2: I do have a four ninety nine month subscription for
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