1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal Hell that for me. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Edo steak? 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Is that woo woom? 8 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: And then and tie. 9 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: name is ty hilden Brandt. That fine gentleman over there 11 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: in the heart of the Midwest, Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein, 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: Sure yeah, need a health check. I'm sorry. 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Sinus watched twenty twenty two. 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Sinus Watch twenty twenty two. How we doing? 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm all right. I can't complain, Tye. There's a lot 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: that's going on in the world that makes me feel 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: extremely fortunate. And if the worst thing I have going 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a boo boo in my 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: my sinuses, and right, yeah, a sinus boo boo. You know, 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm pumping the fluids. I'm trying to sleep, I'm trying 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: to lay down. I'm gonna go get some soup for lunch. Uh. 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: It's it's the off season, so we get to get weird, 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: we get to get fun. So I do this for 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: a living. I can't even begin to complain to. 25 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: Me well, look, today we are going to pick up 26 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: where we left off. Yeah, on the show we did 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: earlier in this week, you had five questions for me 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: and then a couple to try and make me uncomfortable. 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Yes, as you often do. 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: I have five questions for you and then some that 31 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: probably won't make you nearly as uncomfortable, but are intended 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: to prod a little bit deeper. 33 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: You you told me no pizza and no relationship questions, 34 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: and that really kind of hurt that, really like you 35 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to steer into what I consider to be 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: my wheelhouse as a non pizza rea owner and as 37 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: a non licensed relationship expert. But that's okay. 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's the off sets some good college football question 39 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: We're trying to broaden your horizons dance. We'll get into 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: all that and much much more. We appreciate your support 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: throughout this long, cold dolgrums of an off season, but 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: it is starting to warm up various quadrants of the country. 43 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: We appreciate you stuff and on by, don't forget to 44 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: subscribe to the show. Listen the whole way through right 45 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: in at Saliverboat gmail dot com. 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I'm I'm I've had better days physically, 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm we're starting our strength training, our 63 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: dual strength training together and maybe that's going to uh, 64 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna it's gonna really up our looks in ten ADP. 65 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: If not four k ty, I'm willing to go four kay. 66 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've got the internet for four K, 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: but I'm willing to try. 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Well, we can record it at it. 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm good with that last banally solid giveaway dot Com. 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: We've got a new item up for the contest. It 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: is an AJ brownstegned old Miss Minnie helmet. So I'll 72 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: giveaway dot com a few quick and easy steps. That's 73 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: all you need to go through to get your name 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: in the hat. Oh lest I forget this show. All 75 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: of our shows driven by our good friends over at Geico. Yes, 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: we appreciate their support. Dan, all right, with all that 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: out of the way, do you just want me to 78 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: dive into my questions? 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is there any news you want to discuss? 80 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Adidas is apparently opening up the nil coffers. Did you 81 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: see that? 82 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: I saw the headline? What does that mean for us 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: as college football fans? 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: That means Adidas schools will have opportunities with their athletes 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: across various sports to become essentially Adidas influencers. And I'm 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: sure the bigger athletes with the bigger social followings, with 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: the bigger public awareness Q ratings will be front and center. 88 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Adidas huge company and going to proverbial bat 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: for Adidas schools, So that was a reality. I think 90 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: we're all prepared for. I know Nike has already jumped 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: into things, especially with Oregon and NIL and set up 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: I think it's called Division Street, which provides opportunity NIL opportunities, 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: so sort of part for the course. I think we're 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: going to see more companies jumping through it. I saw, 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Saint Peter's some guard for Saint Peter's, 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: I think has a Buffalo Wild Wings deal after they 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: upset Kentucky, which is really like to me, the spirit 98 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: of things with NIL, where you know, all athletes that 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: you know have a certain degree of visibility should be 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: able to capitalize on that, but especially ones that sort 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: of become overnight names, that are able to capitalize on 102 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: moments on becoming sensations. And so yeah, it seems seems 103 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: like a big win. And I'm sure we're going to 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: get into it with some of your questions, but yeah, 105 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: Adidas officially jumping into the fold. 106 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: I saw that, Nico. I'm not even gonna try the 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: last name. 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Yam a Lava, Yama Lava something like that. 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like I am a Leavin And indeed 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: he did spurning the spurning some other programs that were 111 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: associated with his recruitment and decides to go to Tennessee. Now, 112 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: there was some scuttle butt about the trust whatever we're 113 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: calling that, the trust, the collective, Yeah, that the collective, 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: the eight million dollar potential sure for Nico, an unnamed Nico, 115 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: I guess still unnamed Nico, but we all know it's him. 116 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Regardless of all, that a pretty big yet for Josh Hypel. 117 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: Huge, humongous for Tennessee. And I assume, you know, the 118 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: hope is to build around him with offensive linemen and 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: receivers who are seeing the explosivity of Josh Hypel's system, 120 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, sending receivers deep, really going for playing with pace. 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: It's an exciting brand of football, for sure. And that 122 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: was just year one last year with a with a 123 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: transfer quarterback and Hendon Hooker. So yeah, it's obvious that 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: there is an interesting ceiling for Tennessee. The nil stuff. 125 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend like I understand the intricacies 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: of the deal he signed. I'm sure that eight million 127 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: figure is a best case scenario. Yeah, right, But I 128 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: don't know if that's a market setting figure. I don't 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: know how that figures to affect a big defensive tackle 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: or a big corner or a big receiver or other 131 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: SEC schools, SEC schools. It's going to be all over 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: the place, but that it is an interesting parameter to 133 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: the market for a five star quarterback, of which there 134 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: are a couple of other big ones. Malachi Nelson's committed 135 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: to USC and Arch Manning is the other big fish 136 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: and he remains uncommitted, And I think about Georgia, Alabama, 137 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Texas appear to be the big players as of the 138 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: time of recording in his recruitment. I won't pretend like 139 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I am fully up to date on the class of 140 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but in terms of where the market is, 141 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. It'll correct itself. Maybe it's low. Who knows, 142 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Maybe Nico will be a Heisman caliber quarterback and it'll 143 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: prove he'll prove to be more of a fifteen million 144 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: dollar type quarterback with how much he brings in and 145 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: how much better recruiting classes are, with how much he 146 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: gets Tennessee boosters excited about donating to the school and 147 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: more enrollment into the school. There's all sorts of, you know, 148 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: different tentacles to a successful football team within a university. 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: So hoping for the best for him. Disappointed as an 150 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: Oregon fan and maybe we'll get into Oregon a little 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: bit later on. But appointed as an organ fan. And 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I can tell you this as a Duck fan, I 153 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: could very easily say, psh, what does college football come to? 154 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Oregon lost out on a West Coast quarterback because of 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: booster money. But if Oregon had secured him, my reaction 156 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: would have been like, psh, it's college football in twenty 157 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: twenty two. 158 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: Get with the program, everybody program? Yeah yeah, so. 159 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: No, I I am nothing if not a fan of 160 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: high level college football. Hopefully that comes across and a 161 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: strong Tennessee would be a fun thing to watch given 162 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: the style that they're going to be playing with. 163 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: Two other items very quickly that I think warrant mentioning. 164 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't think we've discussed either. Yeah, Ulysses Bentley. 165 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where did he end up? What? 166 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: Ole Miss? 167 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 168 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: He's going Ole Miss. So, in case you haven't been 169 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: paying attention, Lane Kiffin has put together a nice little 170 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: roster of transfers. Yeah, portal king, he's been the portal king. 171 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: First it was Jackson Dart and Zach Evans. Now adding 172 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: Ulysses Bentley the fourth to the equation, Yeah, is pretty 173 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 2: damn interesting. Certainly they've got options in the backfield now, 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: and yeah, just infinitely curious to see how Lane uses 175 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: both those guys. It'd be very interesting. 176 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the big story with Old Miss last year 177 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: was the the direction of the defense is heading in 178 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: because for all the points Ole Miss can and will 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: certainly always score, given the talent on offense and on 180 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: the offensive coaching staff, they don't want to be playing 181 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: that Arkansas game every week. They don't want to be 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: playing fifty three to fifty two every week. And so 183 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: it's terrific that these guys are coming in because there's 184 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: every reason to given how you'll be featured in that 185 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: offense as a running back, as a receiver, quarterback, whatever. 186 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's the curiosity about the defense. They 187 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: lose DJ Dirkin, right, he goes over to Texas A 188 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: and M. So no, it'll it'll be fascinating because Lane 189 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: Kiffin is somebody who will stay current with how to 190 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: acquire players, how to build rosters. He is not going 191 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: to follow the Dabbo model of this is the way 192 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: I do things and this is how I'm going to 193 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: do things moving forward, even though Dabbo has now talked 194 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: about more flexibility in terms of roster construction. 195 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: And last, but certainly not least, Emery Jones go into 196 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: the portal, saw that. Yeah, it originally looked as if 197 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: he were going to stay. Billy Napier encouraged him to stay, 198 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: but ultimately Emory Jones decides he wants to go quote 199 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: to a stable place that will welcome me, is excited 200 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: to have me there and the right situation and fit. 201 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: He told that to ESPN and a phone interview this 202 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: past weekend. Speculation has been that ASU could be a 203 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: landing spot for him, if only because there was a 204 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: sudden following of Emory Jones on social media by some 205 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: at ASU. There were some other schools that also followed, dude. 206 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: I think Rice and Arkansas State North Texas smaller programs 207 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: by comparison to ASU. But Emory Jones is a kid 208 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: who's played for Florida. I don't know if he's quite 209 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: lived up to the hype that he brought with them 210 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: when was originally flipped by Dan Mullen. Ye'll come down 211 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: to Gainesville. But nonetheless still a name out there, you'd 212 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: have to think, if you're ASU, it's appealing, if only 213 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: because they're so damn finnick quarterback, You'll take whatever you 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: can get. 215 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: M h. Yeah, And of course BILLI and Napier had 216 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: his own history at ASU, one of the places that 217 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: helped to jump start his career, so interesting connection there. 218 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: Also saw JT. Daniels still out there. I think both 219 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Emery Jones and JT. Daniels were in a similar situation 220 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: where they wanted to graduate first. They just they had 221 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: a limited number of credits left and so they wanted 222 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: to finish out the winter semester. So JT. Daniels down 223 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: to at the least time of recording, West Virginia, Oregon 224 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: State and MISSOI I don't know if you have that 225 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: in front of you, all interesting fits. Of course, Johnathan 226 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: Smith has done a very good job with quarterbacks. West 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: Virginia certainly certainly in need of better quarterback play. I 228 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: know they've got a freshman they're pretty high on, but 229 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: in terms of experience and upside, JT. Daniels certainly brings that. 230 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: Miszoo obviously losing Connor bayslack to I believe Indiana God, 231 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: you gotta keep track of a lot in twenty twenty two. 232 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: But they themselves have intriguing, young, unproven quarterbacks in the future, 233 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: so a year of JT. Daniels postgraduate might not be 234 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: the worst thing for Miszoo, especially with how they've been 235 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: building things out on offense. They just landed what the 236 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: number one or two receiver in the country and Luther 237 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: Burden in this last class, so two pretty big names 238 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: out there looking to certainly improve what a quarterback room 239 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: looks like at a number of places. 240 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Alrighty, Dan, shall we dive into questions? 241 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm ready, let's do it. 242 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: Let's dive in. I dusted off that sound. I finally 243 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: got my sounds ready to go here. I am excited. 244 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: These are thank you. These are five questions that I've 245 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: had on my mind that I've been wanting to ask you. 246 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: I jotted them down. Yeah, but I haven't been able to. 247 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: There's been a lot to talk about it as a 248 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: lot going on. Sure, so we're gonna take this week. 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: It's for us. It's our time, Dan, question number one 250 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: College football in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty two. Yeah, 251 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: would you agree that it feels a little bit different 252 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: than it has in the past. 253 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: Uh, it feels uniquely different. Sure, I was. 254 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: Gonna say, just agree with me. I'm going somewhere with this. 255 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm with you. Yes, it feels different. 256 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: We have nil we have we just read off news 257 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: about the transfer portal. 258 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: It's still going. 259 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: We have coaching changes. Conference realignment felt like an eternity 260 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: ago Texas and Oklahoma and then the Big Twelve. It's 261 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: like a whole thing. It's going on out there. And 262 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: you know what that means. You've been around the media 263 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: game for quite some time. That means hot takes. Yeah, 264 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: I means hot takes oftentimes very bad opinions out there 265 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: floating around the internet. 266 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, one thing you forgot is 267 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: just the availability of games. That games are so much 268 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: more available in a more complicated way, sometimes with streaming, 269 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: oh ye, with announcers bouncing all over now too, and 270 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: so there's a lack of familiarity and yeah, and that's 271 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: affecting things in terms of realignment and TV deals and yeah, 272 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: it's all over the place that there is a certain 273 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: amount of commercialization and millions upon millions, if not gotting 274 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: into the billions of dollars in the sport that you 275 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: know it. It brings about opinions. 276 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: Let's say I want to know which popular opinion? Yeah, 277 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: which hot take that you Dan Rubinstein mostly believes. Is 278 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: BS something that you're tired of hearing? It seems to 279 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: have gone somewhat mainstream. Right, you're not buying it, you're 280 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: not into it, And you can't answer the playoff. You 281 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: can't answer the playoff because everybody knows where you stand 282 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: on that. 283 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fine. What do you think? So you're 284 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: asking me? Given the state of things, people's hot takes 285 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: are all over the place with college football? Which hot take? 286 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: And I'm a big proponent of naming names. I don't 287 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: know if you have any names that you want to 288 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: throw out who takes? No, I don't necessarily have. I 289 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of smart people who are Again, 290 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't have the names I wish I did. I'm 291 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: a fan of naming names. But there appears to be 292 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: a sentiment. There appears to be a sentiment of college 293 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: football is not ruined. Like I'm gonna zag with this, right, 294 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: there's like a fan sentiment that all of this nil 295 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: and transfer portal is ruining college football. And then there's 296 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: pushback from writers that it's essentially this. Everybody always cries wolf, 297 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: everybody always says something's going to ruin college football. But 298 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: college football has always been changing. College football always has 299 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: new quirks and wrinkles and movement across the sport, and 300 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: you're still going to watch. My pushback is the fear 301 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: of fans is warranted. So this is sort of a 302 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: backlash to the backlash. I don't even know what I'm 303 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: doing right here. I am saying I think we should 304 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: be taking not the people who are crying wolf, not 305 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: the people who are saying the sport is being ruined. 306 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is there are people for which nil 307 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: for which the over commercialization, for which the transfer portal, 308 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: with players moving all over the place, coaches moving all 309 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: over the place, that this is a tipping point for 310 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: some people. I still think they're going to watch people 311 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: who are turned off by the realities of college football. 312 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: I think there are going to be people, a not 313 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: insignificant percentage of people. Also, you could add in like 314 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: the dominance by a very small select group within the 315 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: sport that brings about hot takes, not even necessarily with 316 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: the playoff, just be like college football sort of the 317 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: same thing every year, right, it's Alabama against too LSU 318 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: against Clemson against Ohio State, whatever. So people push back 319 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: with that. I think fans who are raising these concerns 320 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: about the changes being too dramatic to the sport, I 321 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: think there's something to it. I don't think college football 322 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: is bulletproof. I think football as a sport is in 323 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: a pretty good place in terms of fan interest, but 324 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: that's mostly because of the NFL. I don't care about 325 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: TV ratings. I don't really care about attendance. There's all 326 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: sorts of metrics that you can use. I'm saying it 327 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: would be foolish to ignore people raising these concerns right now, 328 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of writers are ignoring these concerns. 329 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of writers are saying players have 330 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: played for free and haven't been able to monetize and 331 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do this, or that players haven't 332 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: had the freedom of movement, and whether right or wrong, 333 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: I think people that are raising these concerns, fans of 334 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: whatever team, fans of big teams, small teams, whatever, I 335 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: think they should be listened to. I think there is 336 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: something about the sport and We've talked about this before, 337 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: and I know I keep cutting you off as you 338 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: begin to talk. No, it's fine. There's something about the 339 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: sport that has become regularly anti fan, which I think 340 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: is a problem. And I think the thing that we've 341 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: talked about before is college football in two thousand and 342 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: five was pretty difficult to follow. In twenty twenty two, 343 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: you have to be dedicated to following the sport and 344 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: the intricacies of movement, both of teams, coaches, players, what 345 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: nil deals mean or don't mean, and all of the 346 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: legislation around the sport. You need to stay current with 347 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: it or you will be left behind. And that's kind 348 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: of an anti mainstream fan sentiment, which I don't think 349 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: is the healthiest thing for the sport. I don't know 350 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: what it means. I just don't think college football is 351 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: especially pro fan. 352 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: It means you should go to solid verbal dot com. 353 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: Click the subscribe link we do for episodes per week 354 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: all throughout the off season. YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah right. 355 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: I also don't think it's a binary choice. 356 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 357 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: And I feel like, oftentimes I'll stick with you on 358 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: this point, oftentimes raising concerns unintentionally puts you on the 359 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: side of being anti something. Sure, right, fans have concerns 360 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: about Nil. Maybe you're an Akron fan. 361 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 362 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: We just mentioned a few minutes ago. Iye, you're an 363 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Akron fan, and maybe NIL. All this stuff coming out 364 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: the transfer portal that scares the crap out of you, 365 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: because not only can some of those players potentially be 366 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: siphoned away from your program b Lord by other programs 367 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: in the area that might have some moerey to throw, 368 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: but also if you do get to the stage where you, 369 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: let's say, develop a legitimate pro prospect at defensive end 370 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: or running back or wide receiver or quarterback, now suddenly 371 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: there's an immediate market elsewhere at a bigger place for 372 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: their services. Understand that fans perspective, though, I think those 373 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 2: concerns does not necessarily mean the fan is anti change. 374 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: It just means that they're got real concerns, and. 375 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: I hear it. 376 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't like labeling folks as being anti 377 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: when they bring up valid. 378 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: Points That said. 379 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the counter argument would be, there's so 380 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: much money in this damn thing, we don't really care 381 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: what you think it's going to change whether you like 382 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: it or not. And so that may also emphasize the 383 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: second part of your point about college football becoming a 384 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: little bit more anti fan. 385 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I just and look, there is no college football. 386 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: There is no entity making decisions. That's not the NC DOUBLEA, 387 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: it's not the College Football Playoff. It's just the idea 388 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: of the sport as a whole has gotten further and 389 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: further away from making it easy to consume. And so 390 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: that's again Soliverble dot com. Please do subscribe and follow 391 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: and do whatever you need to do on your subscribe 392 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: your subscription service. But I think there is that sentiment 393 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: among writers, whether they work for ESPN or the athletic 394 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: or sports illustrator whatever, that like, players finally have a voice, 395 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: and they can finally have the ability to make money, 396 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: and they finally have an ability to move around. I 397 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: don't disagree with the upside of any of that. But again, 398 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: it's not amazing for the sport as a whole to 399 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: have year by year dramatic movement across the sport because 400 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: college football is the size of a professional sport but 401 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: does not have similar contracts and representation as the NFL, 402 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: as the NBA, as the NHL as Major League Baseball, 403 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: and so there is a structure, unfair as it may 404 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: be to a lot of those sports, there is an 405 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: understood structure to how and when players and not coaches, 406 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: but players can move around. And so this is all 407 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: so very new that a lot of writers. Again, whether 408 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: it's Andy Stables, Nicole Hourback or Ari Wassmer, any of 409 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: these people, I don't know, but there is that sentiment 410 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: that says, relax, you're still gonna watch football. And I 411 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's 412 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly true, because people are kind of sick of trying 413 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: and sick of being told the college football playoff or 414 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: recruiting is the most important thing, and that there nine 415 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: to three season of the seven and five season. They 416 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: should just be happy with that and then see their 417 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: star linebacker transfer to a bigger school and see their 418 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: star quarterback transfer. Look, both of our schools have been 419 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: the beneficiaries. You're both of our quarterbacks. Our team's quarterbacks 420 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: were transfers from other schools. Oregon bigger than Boston College. 421 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: Of course, the biggest Oregon transfer quarterback in recent in 422 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: recent history came from Eastern Washington. But it's a reality 423 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: that is not super appealing to the masses to me 424 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: from what I can tell, and so don't know how 425 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: you fix it. But that's the take of everything will 426 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: be fine, You'll still watch football. 427 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: It's the meme of the dog in the burning house. 428 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: Maybe not that drastic, but right, I think that's what 429 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: you're pointing out. 430 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more important to listen to fans, 431 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: reasonable smart fans, raising these concerns than where we collectively 432 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: as people who cover the sport do. 433 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: I will tell you, you know, just through the off 434 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: season and through some of the stuff that I've been 435 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: reading to keep myself current on college football, the one 436 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: point that I think is emphasized and re emphasized, and 437 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 2: if ever there were any doubt, you shouldn't because college 438 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: football is just built a little bit differently. Right, The 439 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: power of the rivalry in college football. Yeah, the power 440 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 2: of the rivalry in college football is still the engine 441 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: that makes this whole thing go. Sure, and you know, 442 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: whether it's a Texas and Texas, A and m thing 443 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 2: or Pitt and Penn State, or you know, I don't know. 444 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: There are plenty of rivalries that have fallen by the 445 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 2: wayside over the years. You know, I hope whatever we 446 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: do that that is committed to memory because we didn't 447 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: lose that. We just can't lose that aspect of college football. 448 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: It really is what makes it unique and special. 449 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: It's even the second tier rivalries too, right, It's it's 450 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: there's a shared history between Mississippi State and Florida, between 451 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: Oregon and Washington State, between Michigan State Penn State, which 452 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: is let's what the Langrand Trophy, that is a true 453 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: rivalry game sort of there is. There's that even Notre 454 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: Dame Stanford when Stanford's good, there's that shared history of like, 455 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: oh man, remember that game three years ago that was wild. 456 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: I remember Christian McCaffrey went wild running. Like there is 457 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: something about even those second tier rivalries that we lose it. 458 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent on that, and you know, 459 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: on prope playoff, but I will say you know that 460 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 2: that is the guts of college football. That is what 461 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: makes this special. Any fan who tells you differently doesn't 462 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: know what they're talking about. The rivalries are ultimately what 463 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: power this thing. So all right, yeah, let's get to 464 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: question numeroal dos. 465 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 466 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: You got into this business on your own free will, Dan, 467 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: That's true. Happily you sent out tapes, you hustled. You 468 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: eventually became the SI tour guy m SI being Sports Illustrated. 469 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, eight nine. And I did it 470 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: independently in two thousand and six. 471 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went around to a bunch of different college 472 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: football stadiums. 473 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't just college. 474 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: Football, you did other events too, But yep, you know, 475 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: college football is really where it started for you, and 476 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: you had the privilege of going to a bunch of 477 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: the pre eminent college football cathedrals, let's say true around 478 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: our great nation. So much talk on this show many 479 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: other shows, is what's the best stadium you've ever been to? 480 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: What's the coolest game day environment? Oh, it's the grove, 481 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: it's the it's state college. What's the worst game day experience? 482 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: Just bathing in the jacuzzi of negativity here, Tyhu, you 483 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: just listen. 484 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: You've had a two month sinus infection at this point. 485 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: That's true. 486 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: If we went a little darker, we're trying to vibe 487 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: with you. 488 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: Just work with me. Okay, So I'll say this. When 489 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: you say stadium, you want to say in game, like 490 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: within the stadium or the overall experience, because the SI 491 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Tour Guide show was built around tailgating and culture around 492 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: game day, not just how it is inside of a stadium. 493 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 2: You can you can answer this however you want, Okay, 494 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: however you want, I'll take either or both, Okay. 495 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: So there are a number of factors here, right, There's 496 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: like how fun was it to tailgate? How fun was 497 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: it to spend time in this college town, which I 498 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: didn't get to do all the time, because there are 499 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: certain like even South Bend, and like flew because I 500 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: was living in La flew into Chicago, drove to South 501 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Bend for the game, drove back to Chicago, And so 502 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: I didn't stay overnight in South Bend, and I didn't 503 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: stay overnight in a lot of places just because of flying. 504 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: In travel convenience, the most inconvenient travel to get to 505 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: a game was is clear to me, and that's Penn State. 506 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Penn State was the absolute worst place to get to 507 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: from Los Angeles because basically I did want to take 508 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: connecting flights, so I had to fly to Pittsburgh or Philly. 509 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Flew to Pittsburgh and drove the most miserable stretch of 510 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: a state I've ever driven. And this is nothing to 511 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: do with the people of Western PA or Central Pa 512 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: or what the cities, the towns, whatever. It's just dark 513 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: and miserable and not wide lan like. It's just a 514 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: miserable travel experience to drive to and from I guess 515 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh to State College and back. That was awful. 516 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: Beaver Stadium was quite fun. There was a wide variety 517 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: of persons outside, like I don't know if you tailgate 518 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: on the cow pastures. I don't know what that situation 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: is in State College, but State College probably had or 520 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: that specific tailgate probably had the widest variance in these 521 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: people are awesome and these people are terrible and I 522 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: want to get away from them. And the only other 523 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: place that I had that sort of dramatic variance in 524 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: fans whor I was like, these people are great, I'm 525 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: so glad I came across them tailgating, and I need 526 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: to get away from these humans as quickly as humanly possible. 527 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: Was Tennessee. Really Now, I went to a Tennessee Florida game, 528 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: and I got to go to Niland and I was 529 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: on the field and I got to see I think 530 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: it was a checkerboard game of some kind. It was incredible. 531 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: The experience inside Beaver Stadium at Penn State and the 532 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: experience inside Neeland were both terrific. But those are the 533 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: places with the widest variants of fans where I'm like, 534 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: these people are horrific and I want to get away. 535 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: I assume you can empathize a little bit with that. 536 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: Penn State's an enormous school, so of course you're going 537 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: to get people that rub you that way, right. 538 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of a perfect cross section between Philly 539 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: fans and Pittsburgh fans. There's a pretty heavy New York influences. 540 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: Well I would say New York, New Jersey probably, yeah. 541 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's it's understandable, to say the least. 542 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: So that's more travel and fans I was. There are 543 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 1: places that I was definitely surprised by how much I 544 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: liked the stadium experience, Like I went into it probably 545 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: too negatively. Like I had a really good time at 546 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: Iowa and Iowa City. The tailgate wasn't anything special. I'll 547 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: tell you the most the two most disappointing places, and 548 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: it's the context is important here. The two most disappointing 549 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: places were probably Clemson in West Virginia. I had a 550 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: great time in the tailgates at Clemson in West Virginia, 551 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: but the games themselves, I had heard so much about 552 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: Death Valley and they're running, you know, the Robin Howard's 553 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: rock and running down the hill and all that stuff. Clemson, 554 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I want to say two thousand and eight, and this 555 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: may have just been the tail end of Tommy Bowden 556 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: or he was already fired and Dabble was the interim. 557 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: They played Maryland, maybe Danny O'Brien Maryland in two thousand 558 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: and eight, and it was just not a great game. 559 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: It was an early kickoff and it was just the 560 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: energy was not all that great. And Clemson's not an 561 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: especially easy place to get to from LA. But that's 562 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: a me thing that doesn't matter for you know, Clemson 563 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: as a whole. But this was Clemson before it was Clemson. 564 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: I didn't have an amazing time. I really liked hanging 565 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: out in the town of Clemson in the tailgate and 566 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: West Virginia was another early kick had a great time 567 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: with Mountaineer fans. Drank like moonshine at nine forty four 568 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: am or something like that it was a big East 569 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: game against Rutgers. And this is probably eight, so I 570 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: think Pat White was still there. Pat McAfee was still there. 571 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: And it was like a very ho hum like twenty 572 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: four seventeen, twenty seven to seventeen game, and it was early. 573 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: The crowd wasn't especially into it. I almost fell asleep 574 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: in the press box again a me thing, but I 575 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: came away. Look, if I had gone to that, the 576 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: the Honey Badger LSU West Virginia game that was like 577 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: a yellow out, if you remember, I would have had 578 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: a stellar time at West Virginia. This was just the 579 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: choice of game I went to, though, so this is 580 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: more on me than it is on West Virginia, more 581 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: on Clemson. But those were those were two memories where 582 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, early kick, not a lot of energy, not 583 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of juice. I don't know, not into it. 584 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: Every school has them, that's just those are the games 585 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: that I happened to go to. I at Penn State, 586 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: I went to a big game that was a Notre 587 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: Dame Jimmy classon game. That was what that was how 588 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: we met correct. And then the Tennessee game was a 589 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: Florida game. It was a t bow game, so that 590 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: was it was. There was a lot of energy, a 591 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of juice in those stadiums, but that was that 592 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: was the fan variants. Texas A and M was actually 593 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: a little bit disappointing, but it was another one of 594 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: those matchups. But Texas A and M had Chick fil 595 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: A in the press box, so that goes a long way. 596 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: That goes a long way. But I I didn't spend 597 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: that much time in college station. I flew in and 598 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: out of Houston. Oregon State didn't do a lot for me. 599 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: It was a fun game because I got to go 600 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: see an Oregon Oregon State game Platypus Cup, win the 601 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: platte But Corvallis fine, But you know, didn't I stayed outside, 602 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: like in the Salem area, so I didn't really spend 603 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: that much time, uh in a in Corvallis. But yeah, 604 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: there are just some places out there, like you go 605 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl. There's not much juice in the 606 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl for an average UCLA game, so that, yeah, 607 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: to me, it was There were definitely places where the 608 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: games weren't that big, but you could tell this was 609 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: a fully dedicated operation by the fan base, by the 610 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: school right to blowing it out like LSU was LSU 611 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: South Carolina. It was an inconsequential game. It was rainy, 612 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: it was an incredible experience, and so there were places 613 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: like that. You know, Washington had that. Washington was very 614 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: energetic in a place that I suggest a lot of 615 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: people try and get to. If you're if you're hopping 616 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: around the country going to college football games, yeah, that's 617 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I think the best. I went to a big o'hig 618 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: state game which was very fun at the shoe. I 619 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: think it was Ohio State Penn State. Even though was 620 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: pretty low scoring, that was great. It was just a 621 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: great time. Yeah, in the big ten, I would just 622 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: suggest that people go to Camp Randall when you ask me, 623 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to end this on a more positive note. 624 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, there are there are those sort of juiceless places. 625 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: But I'm sure it has more to do with my 626 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: selection of game than the place itself. Next question, Dan, 627 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: all right, was that an acceptable answer to you? 628 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: Of course? Okay, of course it's our damn show. 629 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 1: Okay, do whatever we want. Your question again, I want 630 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: to make sure I hit him. 631 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Oregon is seventy six in Bill Connolly's Returning Production index. Now, yeah, 632 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean everything, but it's a guide. I think 633 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: it is especially important to note Oregon because not only 634 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: are they losing a lot offense, especially, but they also 635 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: lost Mary Crystobaal who goes to Miami, and they're employing 636 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: a first time head coach and Dan Lanning who doesn't 637 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: really have have a ton of familiarity with the Pacific Northwest. 638 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: West Coast pac twelve. You're correct. Yeah, he was at 639 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: ASU briefly when he was very young. That's it. 640 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you take all those factors into consideration. I 641 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: think you also got a factor in a schedule that 642 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: to me looks kind of tricky. Sure, not the least 643 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: of which is Labor Day weekend when they're. 644 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: Wait, does it? I feel like, well, it's not to 645 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: take a look at it. 646 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: If you take a look at it, it is certainly 647 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: not the hardest schedule that they could play. But I 648 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: think that first month of action will be very trying. Sure, 649 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: because anytime you open up with Georgia, they got a 650 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: BYU team that brings a lot back by you should 651 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: be pretty good. Again. Yeah, Eastern Washington, They've got a 652 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: game later in the year, I believe against Utah, that's 653 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 2: at home. But it's like there are you could find 654 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: land mines in that schedule. So I have to ask 655 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 2: the question here in your mind. I don't know how 656 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: closely you've paid attention to it. It is late March. 657 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 2: Based on what you know now, what is the range 658 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: of possible outcomes for this Oregon team going into next season? 659 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: And furthermore, oh, which of those outcomes or which possible 660 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: thing that could happen would actually leave you concerned about 661 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: Dan Lanninger whether he can do the job at organ. 662 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: There's very little that he could or couldn't do in 663 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: year one that will have me worried unless there is 664 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: a locker room abandonment issue that he is not the 665 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: grown up in the room. And it's becoming clear right 666 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: away that to me would be the only thing in 667 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: year one be like, oh man, he can't handle coaching 668 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: a major program as a head coach. The variety of 669 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: outcomes hinges on what I assume to be Bo Nicks 670 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: and whatever the ratio of good Bow to bad Bo is. 671 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was at Auburn. Auburn fans 672 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: can certainly weigh in that it was like a forty 673 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: sixty experience, a thirty to seventy experience, certainly with the 674 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: way he finished his career. There, you know, the Texas 675 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: A and M game. He made some plays, but they 676 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown. I did score, they didn't get 677 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: into the end zone. So it was arguably his worst 678 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: statistical performance of his career, and it was his second 679 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: to last game, his penultimate game at Auburn. But three 680 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: of those four games how he finished his Auburn career 681 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: were pretty promising. The Old miss game, the Arkansas game, 682 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: and at least the first half of that Mississippi State game. 683 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: So if Oregon gets seventy thirty good bow to bad Bo, 684 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: that's an outcome in which Oregon with a very experienced 685 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: offensive line, promising receivers, a good but thin running back 686 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: room Byron Cardwell's a new full time guy with Travis 687 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: Steim moving to USC and CJ. Verdella entering the draft. Defensively, 688 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: the lines in a decent place. Linebacker has those two 689 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: five stars. Secondaries a little bit thin, but they brought 690 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: in at least a transfer at corner. They were hit 691 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: by the portal a little bit. They lost a key corner, 692 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 1: a rotation defensive lineman. They lost guys in the portal. 693 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: The big thing to me is going to be I 694 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: think the schedule is fantastic. The Georgia game, who cares whatever, 695 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: it's game one, it's on the road, it's playing in Atlanta, 696 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: but they're road games within the PAC twelve at Wazoo 697 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: new full time head coach and Jake Tickert. At Arizona, 698 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: which still has a long ways to go, but improving, 699 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: At Cal which has not had an offense and has 700 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: not really been anything beyond a vague Bowl threat. At Colorado, 701 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: which is trending in the wrong direction. And at Oregon State, 702 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: which is feisty but shouldn't be deep enough or talented 703 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: enough to beat Oregon. Now they do have Utah and 704 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: Washington in it looks like consecutive weeks. They have Ucla 705 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: after a bye week, but that's it's in Eugene. I 706 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I think the schedule's fun. 707 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: It's a good home schedule. It's a good home schedule. 708 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: It's a really good road home split. 709 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 2: You know, you could definitely make the case that Utah 710 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: is going to be loaded again. They'll be decent. Maybe 711 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: Ucla gets better. I don't know. Right, I think Stanford 712 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 2: has to get better. You would think they have to 713 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: get better. I don't know, right. So you know, as 714 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: we've seen time and again with some of these PAC 715 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: twelve schedules, sometimes it's the games you don't know, the 716 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: games that don't jump out at you in March, that 717 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: are the ones that end up taking you down. 718 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: The problem for me with Oregon and I think there 719 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: is a lot of upside because I still think they're 720 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: more talented than anybody on their schedule. So that's a 721 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: good place to start on their Pack twelve schedule. Excuse me, 722 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: not more talented than Georgia first time head coach, first 723 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: time full play calling, offensive coordinator, and quarterback transfer. Which 724 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: we use the word cocktail last episode about rivalry games, 725 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: and you know, the spiciest, most balanced cocktails. It doesn't 726 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: feel like an especially promising cocktail because there's so much unknown. 727 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: What is the vision Dan Lanning has for his offense? 728 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: What is the vision Kenny Dillingham has for his offense? 729 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: After spending time with both cosmels On and Mike Norvell, 730 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: and I am just never a huge fan in having 731 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: to talk yourself into a QB. Now there have been 732 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: guys who have gone from fine to really good or 733 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: after thought to surprisingly good after two three years of 734 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: playing or being a backup and not being able to 735 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: crack a starting lineup. You look at like what Will 736 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: Levis did at Kentucky. He transfers to Kentucky they need 737 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: a quarterback post Terry Wilson. Expectations. The bar wasn't set 738 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: particularly high with Terry Wilson. I think it was Eddie 739 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: Grant was the offensive coordinator at Kentucky. They just sort 740 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: of handed the ball off a lot, and Liam Conan 741 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: will Levis fully and completely soared past all expectations. Last 742 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: year Kentucky went ten and three. 743 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: Will Levis said, like you could not have imagined Will Levis. 744 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: I think he was sixty six percent right. 745 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: And you know, Wandelle Robinson comes in like that was 746 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: a surprise that you had to talk yourself into. Will 747 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: Levis and Liam Cohen succeeding together and they exceeded expectations, 748 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: and that happens like I would imagine Pitt fans were 749 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: fine with Kenny Pickett heading into last year, like he's experienced, 750 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: He's a calming influence, he knows the system, he's comfortable 751 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: in the ACC. He's one of the best quarterbacks in 752 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: the ACC. Completely exceeds expectations last year. Right, So there 753 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: are those situations. The problem is those seem to be 754 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: exceptions to the rule when you have to talk yourself 755 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: into a quarterback of like, oh well, maybe it's a 756 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: fresh start. Oh well, maybe he looks like he did 757 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: at the end of his career. Oh well, maybe he 758 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: just needs the you know, the lack of pressure at 759 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: all in that voice specifically. Yeah, that's a problem to 760 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: me if you're talking yourself into a quarterback with his 761 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: known flaws and what they're up against in terms of 762 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: the unknown. I don't know. I think the best case 763 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: scenario for Oregon is they lose to they lose to Georgia, 764 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: and they lose to Utah and they're able to sneak 765 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: out the rest of their schedule go ten and two 766 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: because bo Nicks has decent enough command and he's not 767 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: the reason they lose games, not necessarily the reason they 768 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: win games, but he does enough to so that every 769 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: Oregon fan and every college football fan watched their games 770 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: and says, prey solid ten two way one. 771 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 2: Right. 772 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: I think the PAC twelve is in a place, right now, 773 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: and I'm terribly concerned about the quarterback room moving forward. 774 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: The thing that would actually concern me. You asked about 775 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 1: what would be concerning about Dan Lanning in year one? 776 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: What does he do at quarterback for the future? Right now, 777 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: Oregon has three former blue chip quarterbacks in that room, Bonix, 778 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: Jay Butterfield, and Ty Thompson. You would be hard pressed 779 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: to find an Oregon fan confident in the position moving forward. Now, 780 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: Oregon's major target in this current recruiting cycle, as we mentioned, 781 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: is going to Tennessee. At least that's what we figure 782 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: is going to happen. He's going to end up at Tennessee. 783 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: There are other interesting quarterback prospects on the West Coast. 784 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't follow it particularly closely. If Dan Lanning fully 785 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: strikes out in terms of bringing in an interesting, high 786 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: ceiling type quarterback in this class and has to depend 787 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: on the portal once again, I mean, who do we 788 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: suspect is going to be out there? We could talk about, 789 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, Miller Moss and Hudson Cart and all these 790 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: guys that are you know, former blue chip guys who 791 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: are sitting on the bench. But if he is not 792 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: able to secure a quarterback of the future in this class, 793 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be concerned, but I'd file it away thinking 794 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: huh huh, because I know you need time to build 795 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: up those relationships as a head coach and your offensive coordinator, 796 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: and nobody knows what Oregon system is going to be, 797 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: so that's more difficult for quarterbacks to know. Like, you 798 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: have an idea of what Tommy Reese is gonna do 799 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: at Notre Dame with a new full time head coach, 800 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: You have an idea at Brian Kelly and like, what's 801 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: his name? Who's the offensive coordinator for LSU Denbrock, Denbrock, 802 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking to bored, Mike Denbrock, you have an ideal, 803 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: you know what Billion Apier's probably gonna do ish at Florida. 804 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: Oregon's the mystery there, and so they have work to 805 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: do in explaining and showing future quarterbacks what Oregon's offense 806 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: is going to be. So that would be the concern 807 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: to me near one that that Dan Lanning does not 808 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: lock in a promising quarterback of the future. 809 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: That was a very thoughtful answer, Dan, Thank you, Thank 810 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: you toy for sharing that with me. 811 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: Let's move on and if you fast forwarded past all 812 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 1: of my Oregon gibberish. Welcome back, Welcome back. 813 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: Question four. Yeah, gonna begin the part of this episode 814 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: where we start to take you a little bit out 815 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 2: of your comfort zone. Yeah, rank your top five players 816 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 2: in the upcoming NFL draft. 817 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: To find top five like who I think should go 818 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: one through five or my five favorite players who are 819 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: mocked to be first round ish. 820 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: I don't think either you or I are qualified to 821 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 2: actually do the mock draft thing. 822 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: No, definitely not. 823 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 2: I'm not asking that question from that perspective. I am 824 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: essentially saying, yes, of the guys who are projected to 825 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 2: go highly in next month's draft, sure, give me your 826 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: top five, top five guys that you saw him in college. 827 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: And like a lot of us are convinced every year 828 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: when you know, somebody drops a little to Patrick Mahomes 829 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 2: or whoever, I mean, he didn't drop very far, but 830 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Guys who we see in college, we know 831 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 2: they're going to be good in the pros. But you 832 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: know who kind of fits that bill as we go 833 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: into the draft. 834 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: It's pretty straightforward to me, both of the inside linebackers 835 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: who are mocked to be first round guys, and maybe 836 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: there are more than two, but Devin Lloyd and n 837 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: Kobe Dean were absolute joys to watch as they destroyed 838 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 1: the hopes and dreams of offenses that Utah and Georgia faced. 839 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: Love Evan Neil. Love somebody that is that athletic at 840 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: that size. I don't know if you saw what Evan 841 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: Neil looks like with like just underwear on, just you know, 842 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: his combine pant. No, I'm telling you, like physically, there 843 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: is something that is so terrifying about somebody who is 844 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what his current measurement is, like. 845 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 2: Six seven, three thirty seven. I can tell you there 846 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 2: is definitely a moment in time in the not too 847 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: distant past where a six to seven linebacker with his 848 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: shirt off kind of looks like a blob. 849 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: You mean you mean linemen lineman? 850 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: Excuse me, yeah, yeah, Evan Neil. Evan Neil looks like 851 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 2: you play in the NBA. Yes, I mean he's ridiculous. 852 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: Yes, there is something so impressive about just being a 853 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: big dude and opping a fat dude with carrying all 854 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: that weight and that's that's three thirty five or whatever 855 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: that he's down to from I think what he played 856 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: at which was close to like three sixty. I think 857 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: during the season Aaron Donald was that way too. We're like, oh, 858 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: he's three hundre pounds these two hundred ninety punds whatever 859 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: he is. He's like, he's two hundred ninety pounds of 860 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: must soul of good mass. And so guys like that 861 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 1: are so impressive to me that they're able to perform 862 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: athletically the way that they are and build themselves up 863 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: to that point. So Evan Neil is there, Both of 864 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: those linebackers are there. Drake London. I just feel so 865 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: bad for Drake London was completely and fully unstoppable, made 866 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: essentially what amounted to a bad decision to go to 867 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: USC because of how everything turned out at USC, and 868 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: was just not playing in consequential games for the most part. 869 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: And so I just am hopeful for him that he's 870 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: healthy and ends up somewhere where he can immediately impact 871 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: winning because I just feel bad because he was unstoppable. 872 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: Everybody knew the ball was going to him, didn't matter. 873 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: Drake London and probably Kaveon Thibodeau just because I'm a 874 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: dumb Oregon homer. Caveon Thibodeau was beat up for a 875 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: good chunk of last year, didn't even play in that 876 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: Ohio State win. So I'm hopeful for him and for Oregon, 877 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: and that's something that you know, Oregon can recruit around, 878 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: not just his success in college, but his success and 879 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: getting drafted highly and going to the pros. Because Oregon 880 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: has had, like, very quietly, a good amount of success 881 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: at defensive line in the draft recently with Eric Armstead 882 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: and DeForest Buckner. So I'm hopeful that that Kveon Thibodeau 883 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: keeps that going. There's other guys I like, I don't. 884 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of drafting running backs and 885 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: receivers generally speaking, in the first round. I think the 886 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: focus should be on lineman quarterback. I see a lot 887 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: of people seem to love, you know, Mina Kimes loves 888 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: Malik Willis and hopes that he ends up with the Seahawks. 889 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: I hope it works out for him too. Uh. He 890 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: just seems like a very fun player and hopefully has 891 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: a good NFL career. I hope it. You know, Kenny 892 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: Pickett and his tiny hands, I hope that works out 893 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: for him. 894 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: I don't really like it. I mean, I like, but yeah, 895 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 2: in terms of draft ability. For whatever it's worth coming 896 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: from me, I don't really like any of the quarterbacks 897 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 2: this year. 898 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: I just I'm a corral Yeah, Sam Howell. 899 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 2: No, I'm good. I'm good. If my team needs a quarterback, 900 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: I say, take something else. My team does need a 901 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 2: quarterback desperately, We're stuck with Daniel Jones. I think for it. 902 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 1: So you just want Jimmy Garoppolo. Is that what you're 903 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: looking for? 904 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 2: No, just take lineman. It's a deep lineman draft. There 905 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 2: are a lot of good linemen. 906 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 1: Take lineman the guy from Mississippi State, NC State. 907 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 2: Take defenders like build from the lines out and actually 908 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 2: build the team right. But don't I don't know, I don't. 909 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 2: I don't want any of these quarterbacks. 910 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: Who else you're gonna miss other than Kyle Hamilton who's 911 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: projected to be. 912 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 2: Like Kyle Hamilton? Is my answer? He might be my 913 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: one through three. I love me some Kyle Hamilton. Some 914 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: other names that I think jump out to me. Yes, 915 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 2: and kind of going through the sex well, I mean 916 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: you mentioned Devin Lloyd, n Kobe Dean, yep, I you 917 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 2: know he kind of took those from me. I would 918 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: also throw out as just like another name that I 919 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 2: feel badly for, David o'jabo hurt his leg. 920 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: I saw that in Michigan opposite, which sucks. You know 921 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: that that sucks so bad, like it's Achilles something. Yeah, 922 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 1: super serious, right, super serious. 923 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: Although they're saying a six month recovery, which apparently they 924 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 2: can do that now in six months. But David o'jabo, 925 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: I think, is a name that you know, I want 926 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 2: to succeed. Aiden Hutchinson. I don't know if you mentioned him, 927 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: but Aiden Hutchinson, with the impact that he had, maybe 928 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 2: not so much in the playoffs, but certainly throughout the 929 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: course of the season and his college career at Michigan, 930 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 2: is another guy that's really easy to root for, as 931 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 2: is George carl Loftis. George carloftis like sort of came 932 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 2: out of nowhere in a sense. It was very dominant. 933 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: I think he was hurt his sophomore year, I want 934 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: to say, and bounce back in a big way. Yeah, 935 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 1: he bounced back to a big way, damn. 936 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: But it's not like there was a ton of preseason steam. 937 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: George carl loftis the way there was on Kaevon Thibodeau, right, 938 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 2: right totally. The season that he had definitely opened some eyes. 939 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'd probably throw those three guys out there. Hutchinson, 940 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 2: carloftis so jabo in addition to Hamilton, and if I'm 941 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: going to throw one other guy on there, I'll go 942 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 2: to corner. 943 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was gonna be my bonus. Jonas continue. 944 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: I know everybody's in on Sauce Gardner, and I get 945 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 2: that he's got great size, He's super as a cover corner. 946 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: Remember when Notre Dame decided to throw it at him. 947 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do, I do. I was gonna say 948 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 2: extingly though, And he's a guy who also was battling injury. 949 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 2: He's a guy who I remember when he came out 950 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 2: of high school, many folks in the recruiting world were saying, 951 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: much like they did with Adrian Peterson, if you want 952 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 2: to go pro now, somebody would take him and he 953 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 2: could probably play at that level. So, you know, been 954 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 2: a bit of a mixed bag at LSU. No one 955 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: doubts the talent, and I'm curious to see what he 956 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 2: can do at the next level, and I'm rooting for him. 957 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 2: So with your five off the board, those are my 958 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 2: next five. 959 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: Done all right. 960 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 2: Final football question, Daniel hey May, what is your analysis 961 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 2: of the purported Joe Buck for the Penn State Purdue 962 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 2: game trade that went down apparently between ESPN and Purdue. 963 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 2: So like, there's a Fox, ESPN and Fox. What did 964 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 2: I say, Yeah, Purdue? No, like definitely different ESPN and Fox. 965 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 2: In case you have not been keeping yourself up to 966 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: date with what's going on in the sports media world, 967 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 2: Joe baka Troy ak beIN leaving Fox going over to 968 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 2: ESPA to do Monday Night football big deal in sports 969 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 2: media circles. But as part of that move to bring 970 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: Joe Buck over to ESPN from Fox, it's been reported 971 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 2: that there was a trade. That there was a trade. 972 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 2: This requires some understanding of how games get allotted and 973 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 2: how games get assigned out to different networks throughout the 974 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 2: course of a given week. I'm not going to go 975 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: into all of that. 976 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: There's a draft. I believe it's a draft. Yeah, it's 977 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: a whole thing. 978 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 2: Kind of cool. I didn't know about it until I 979 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 2: read about this, but yeah, it's like a whole a 980 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 2: whole thing that they built in so that the networks 981 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 2: can pick off the games that makes sense to them. 982 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 2: But as part of that. Apparently the game that was 983 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 2: traded to Fox from ESPN as part of this Joe 984 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 2: Buck acquisition. I guess we can say, yeah, was Penn 985 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: State Purdue. 986 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: What do you think I think I would watch it 987 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: regardless Joe Bucker the game, the game, so Aidan O'Connell's back, right, 988 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: He's back Aiden O'Connell. So he went to the same 989 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: high school as Jody with an eye, So I've got 990 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: a soft spot there. He's sting. This receiving room is 991 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 1: not going to be as good this year without David Bell. 992 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 2: It also got Brady Allen, who they're bringing in. 993 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: I am I am thinking for the money, ESPN probably 994 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: got the better of the deal because Monday night football 995 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: is such a good cornerstone franchise, broadcast franchise. But I 996 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: guess I'm happy for Fox that they got Penn State Perdue. 997 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, like it just kind of seems like, 998 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: given where these teams are right now, it's kind of 999 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: like a B game like this. This was not a 1000 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: because the original rumor was what Penn State, Ohio State 1001 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: something like that. Now, Notre Dame, Ohio State, notme Ohio State. 1002 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: Right to open up the year, and that I think 1003 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,320 Speaker 1: Burke Magnus, who runs things for ESPN, came out and 1004 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: denied that specific story. Was al Michaels not traded at 1005 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: a certain point Oswald the Rabbits during his Disney because 1006 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: he was at ABC and then went to NBC, And 1007 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: so this is this is not the first trade that 1008 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: you know asset to be named later. So Oswald the 1009 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: Rabbit I think was an original property of Disney that 1010 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: perhaps I think Universal had ownership over and Disney wanted 1011 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: him back. So Oswald the Rabbit is now back in 1012 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: the Disney archive. I believe I got that story right. 1013 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: I like it. The fascinating thing to me is just 1014 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: more broadly speaking with the broadcast movement, is Thursday Night 1015 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: is now Amazon? Correct? Correct, Thursday Night NFL is now Amazon. 1016 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: The college tie in is Kirk herb Street is calling 1017 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: that game with al Michaels. Right. 1018 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 2: Was al Michaels announced as the I believe so I 1019 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 2: think Kirkhurbstreet tweeted it out or instagrammed it out that 1020 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 2: al Michaels and Kirkhurbstreet will be calling the Thursday night 1021 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: Amazon game, which I. 1022 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: Think is being produced by NBC. So I think al 1023 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: Michaels is still going to work with his familiar NBC crew, 1024 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: but has left NBC and is not doing Sunday Night. 1025 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 2: They're probably pay I'm assuming. 1026 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: They're probably playing him a pretty penny. Yeah, So kirkhurb 1027 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: Street now will be doing what Thursday night football Game 1028 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: Day and Saturday Night Football. That's a haul. Yeah, that's 1029 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: and announcers And like our pal Adam Amine has been 1030 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: calling multiple sports multiple days and this is not a 1031 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: new thing. But to do a three four hour live 1032 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: show on Saturday morning, after a turnaround on Friday, doing 1033 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: the Thursday night game different sport, and then traveling again 1034 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: potentially Saturday afternoon to call the night game, that's a lot. 1035 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: So you have Joe Buckentreigman to Monday Night Football ESPN, 1036 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 1: kirkhurbs Street to Amazon in addition to his ESPN responsibilities. 1037 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen with the Fox guys, 1038 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: because now you're going to have openings at Fox, Like 1039 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: is Joe Davis going to now do NFL games? Is 1040 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: Gus Johnson going to do NFL games? Are they doubling 1041 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: up college and NFL? I don't know. I don't know 1042 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: those are the two big names doing college. 1043 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 2: It'll be very interesting to see. I'm sort of hung 1044 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 2: up on the trading of assets in different universes. 1045 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that possibility. Okay, so let me take 1046 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: it to you and make it personal. Please. If ESPN 1047 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: came to me and said, we are throwing a million 1048 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: dollars at you to spearhead a new college football podcast, 1049 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: you have to leave the solid vert give them any ideas. 1050 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 1: But well, I'm letting you know this. I know they 1051 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: take our stuff. What would commiserate value be for me? 1052 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: If ESPN went to you and said, we understand, we 1053 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: fully decap the Soliverble, the tandem that is tyinged in right, 1054 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: how can we make this right from an asset perspective 1055 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: because we know the Soliverble is under contract with whoever. 1056 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,439 Speaker 2: Well, I mean for. 1057 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: You have ESPN, you have Disney, you have ABC, you 1058 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: have all the properties within that umbrella. 1059 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: For starters, I need the nft of the original ESPN 1060 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 2: two logo because I don't know what they did with 1061 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 2: that thing, but that lives in infamy. 1062 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 1: I love that. 1063 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the scratchy yeah, yeah, it's just it's got a 1064 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 2: street feel to it. I need that so I need that. However, 1065 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: they can signify that I have ownership of the mod. 1066 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: Well, think about specific things since think about like the 1067 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: ESPN things, the physical things that are meaningful to you, 1068 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned ESPN two. Would you want like Carl 1069 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: Ravitch's leather jacket when they were trying to make ESPN 1070 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: two cool, or like Susie Kolver's like remember they were 1071 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: they had him dressed down. I don't know if it's 1072 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,280 Speaker 1: Keith Ober and somebody like what are the physical ESPN 1073 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 1: or Disney or I guess ABC if it was if 1074 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: a TV show was produced by ABC, Like would you 1075 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: want the tool time set in your house? Wow? That 1076 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 1: was an ABC show? No? 1077 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 2: No, no, no? 1078 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: Would you want a display case of like Arkles glasses? 1079 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 2: There really is an open playbook here in terms of 1080 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 2: things that you would ask for. The broader question is 1081 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 2: what are you worth? 1082 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You know how so it have 1083 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: to be worth it to ESPN? 1084 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 2: How aggressive could we get this? I mean, could we 1085 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,919 Speaker 2: get the rights to Family Matters? It's not we It's 1086 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 2: not we could I but it's now just you could 1087 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 2: sOliver old media, Like do you want. 1088 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: To syndicate Family Matters? On what would we get we 1089 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: get the rights to that? No, that's probably too much step. 1090 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 2: By step little Suzanne Summers? Could we do that? Okay? 1091 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: So I don't think you could get step by Step. 1092 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you get family matters. 1093 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: But Boy Meets World? What about Boy Meets the World 1094 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 2: too much? 1095 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: BMW's too much? Which could you have a negotiation about 1096 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: hanging with mister Cooper? I think that becomes interesting? Wow, 1097 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: like B level tgif Yeah? What are the other pieces 1098 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: of ESPN memorabilias like old X game stuff? Like do 1099 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: you want Mike Patrick and his audio archive? Do you want? Like? Uh? 1100 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like other ESPN physical things 1101 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: that would be meaningful to you as a token in 1102 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: your home, Like would you want Keith Jackson's yellow ABC jacket. See, 1103 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm not big on the memorabilia thing, okay, but I 1104 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: tell you what I wouldn't mind having. I wouldn't mind 1105 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: having exclusive ownership of all the ESPN commercials they've done 1106 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: over the years. Oh that's good, But what would you 1107 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: do with it? 1108 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'd resell them on the internet 1109 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 2: and money off it. But all right, you know the 1110 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 2: Y two K with Charlie Steiner. 1111 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: How about this? How about this? 1112 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 2: It's never iffy if it's Griffy with Kenny Maine. 1113 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: What if ESPN agreed to cast you in one of 1114 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: those commercials like and you got to choose any past 1115 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: or present ESPN personality and team. You know, oh, their kneecap, 1116 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: their knee cap in me, I quit up here in 1117 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: the commercial. 1118 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: I quit my job for this. 1119 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: I know that's true. 1120 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 2: So if they're taking you away, they're ending the business. 1121 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 2: We're done. It's done. I don't have the Donzo sound, 1122 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 2: but we're done, right, So you got to make it 1123 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 2: worth my while. 1124 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 1: Is there anybody at ESPN or ABC, Slash Disney that 1125 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: you would replace me with? That you would that would 1126 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: just be a swap. See, now that's interesting, a clean swap. 1127 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: So they just hired Pete Thamil. We don't really know Pete. 1128 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know Pete. Yeah, yeah, Bill Connolly, ESPN. 1129 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,439 Speaker 2: Bill Connolly's an interesting poll. 1130 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's bringing Rubenstein energy though it's different. 1131 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: You have all the people on air, right, all the 1132 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: people that call college games, Like, do you think you 1133 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: could replace me with a A Niche shroff a Dave Pash. 1134 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Do you think you would do the show with Bill Walton? 1135 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: I think Bill Walton would do the show with Bill Walton. 1136 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 2: I don't think there's not there's not enough microphones for 1137 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 2: that one. 1138 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: You could go outside of football and hire somebody calling 1139 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,479 Speaker 1: you want to the show? They rod, No, No, I don't. 1140 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't you know. I mean, if we could somehow 1141 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 2: incorporate the Jack Fowlers skill. Sure, if we could somehow 1142 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 2: incorporate Fouler into this now, he's probably I don't mean 1143 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 2: to be derogatory towards you. Uh, I don't think you'll 1144 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 2: take it as such, But Fowler's got more value than you. 1145 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 2: So could I get him on a limited basis to 1146 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 2: be part of the content of. 1147 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 1: The show, recurring like a recurring guest, kind of like. 1148 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,919 Speaker 2: We had with Bill c Sure, Like, could I bring 1149 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 2: him on for a Patreon show? People would pay for that? 1150 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Fitness tips with Chris? People would pay for fitness tips 1151 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 2: with Chris. You've seen his biceps on Instagram. You know 1152 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 2: what that's all about. Sure, this is a very complex question. 1153 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 2: I did not expect you to turn it around on me. 1154 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: Oh man, I will be putting together a list of demands, 1155 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 2: and like a good athletic director, I will keep it 1156 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 2: in my top drawer in the event that's something cataclysmic 1157 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 2: like this were to occur. 1158 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: What if it was like a demand that every opening 1159 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Day you get to watch every single baseball game with 1160 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Tim Kirkchin. 1161 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I like Tim Kirkchin. But again, you're nuking 1162 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 2: my business. 1163 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 1: No, I know, no, I know. I'm just trying to 1164 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: come up with something appealing to you as a human. 1165 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 2: All Right, I have I have two other questions written 1166 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 2: down here. We're gonna do one. Do you want me 1167 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 2: to do the bug one or the uh sleep deprivation one? 1168 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 2: Sleep deprivation Dan Rubinstein. 1169 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that was the wrong button. No, that's right, 1170 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 1: leave that in there. I'll leave it in. 1171 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 2: They'll both stay in. What is the latest you have 1172 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 2: voluntary What is the latest you have voluntarily stayed up 1173 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 2: stayed awake? Yeah, in the last twelve months. 1174 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Well, I've had an infant voluntarily stayed up. So that 1175 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: was not my choice. That was because I had anice. 1176 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 2: You had to society life. 1177 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Yes, right from my teet. The latest I have probably 1178 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: stayed up has probably been no later than twelve thirty am. 1179 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 2: Did you see the ball because I was New Year's Eve. 1180 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: No, of course, but I never do that. I was 1181 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: probably watching a movie or like I got hooked on, 1182 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: like Drive to Survive or some show that I just 1183 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: wanted to keep watching. U. There are times because I 1184 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: played tennis on Thursday nights. I don't know if you 1185 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: ever did this when you were because you played softball, 1186 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you ever did like a 1187 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: more rigorous like sport physical activity. 1188 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 2: How dare you? 1189 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I went there. When you're done playing, you're 1190 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: still juiced up. Yeah, I don't know if Like I 1191 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: remember talking to my dad about this when he would 1192 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: like play poker until like ten to eleven at night 1193 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 1: with a bunch of buddies, but he was thinking about 1194 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: all of his hands and he still had a lot 1195 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: of energy from playing, so he would be up till 1196 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: one two am. It's not that. 1197 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 2: Different than when you watch a really high level college 1198 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 2: football game that runs deep into the night and you're 1199 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 2: into it and it just takes after the national championship, 1200 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 2: we were pretty jazzed up. 1201 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: We were just late. Did we stay up that night? 1202 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: That was one of my later nights. I was close 1203 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 1: to midnight I was past twelve thirty twelve. That was Eastern. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1204 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm in God's time zone now, yeah, somewhere in that, 1205 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: in that realm, that twelve thirty realm. I just don't 1206 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: have it in me. Like even those late games, the 1207 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Pac twelve games. I get up early and watch him 1208 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: in the morning that I miss. There's there's no Pac 1209 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: twelve game. And I'm pretty good now because I have 1210 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: the YouTube TV. I'm pretty good. Now. I'll just you know, 1211 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: throw it to the cloud DVR. I'll avoid my phone, 1212 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I'll charge in another room, I'll avoid even if it's 1213 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: an organ game. I'll just get up at five and 1214 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, skim through it then. So now there, I 1215 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: don't have it. I just I'm trying to think. I 1216 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: don't think, and I know it's not a fantastic answer. 1217 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: What the latest you stayed up? Is what? 1218 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 2: I've been up very late doing what? Nothing in particular, 1219 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 2: But I've been up till three four? 1220 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: So what are you doing at two forty four am? 1221 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 2: Going down a YouTube rabbit hole? Sure, clicking around on 1222 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 2: the computer, playing around on the phone. 1223 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Yep? 1224 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 2: Nothing. 1225 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Are you doing that in bed? Are you doing that 1226 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: in a living room? 1227 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Mostly in the living room, I'd say, yeah, yeah, mostly 1228 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 2: in the living room, but nothing exciting. I mean, I'm 1229 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 2: a man, and you. 1230 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 1: Can function after two three hours of sleep? No? 1231 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 2: No, no, See when I was working thiserious day job, yeah, 1232 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 2: and I was up and down and just unable to 1233 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 2: sleep through the night because of stress and the crushing 1234 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 2: weight of the job. 1235 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: I was like, you can listen to it in full detail. 1236 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 2: Com you know. I was getting sleep, just not in 1237 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 2: any kind of continuous fashion. And you had to function 1238 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 2: the next day, so you did it. But no, can 1239 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 2: I function? I only have two hours of sleep? Not really? 1240 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Are you watching anything now? 1241 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 2: Any shows? 1242 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1243 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 2: Solid? Wife Kate watched Inventing Anna? 1244 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 1: No you? Why are you addressed a paw? Yeah? 1245 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, she watched that. I didn't watch it. I just 1246 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 2: saw some of the interviews with the real Anna that 1247 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Kate watched after the fact, and I've decided I'm not 1248 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 2: really interested watching that show. Okay, So yeah, I went 1249 01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 2: back and I watched Jack Ryan season one again again again, Yeah, okay, 1250 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 2: second time. Season one good, Season two, I Get back 1251 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 2: to You. Season two left a little bit to be desired, 1252 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 2: So I watched that was in a mood I am 1253 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 2: waiting to get rolling on Marvelous Missus Maisel. 1254 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: Hmm, I'm current. It's good latest season. But the latest 1255 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: season only had eight episodes. But yeah, yeah, I'm. 1256 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 2: Waiting, waiting to get caught up on that one. And 1257 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 2: then there are a couple others that have been sent 1258 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 2: to me. I watch Hacks that I tell you watch Hacks. 1259 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it's really good, right, it was good? Yeah, yep. Yeah. 1260 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 2: But as for current stuff that I'm watching, sort of 1261 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 2: an open book. I really could go for something to 1262 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 2: fill that void of like a Jack Ryan type of show. 1263 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm dangerously close to rewatching Breaking Bad, dangerously close. 1264 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1265 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,919 Speaker 1: And also, do you watch Better Call Saul? No? Did 1266 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: you do Breaking Bad? 1267 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 2: I did Breaking Bad? 1268 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to do Better Call Saul? Better Call. 1269 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 2: I started it, I couldn't get into it. 1270 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: Keep you gotta keep going. It's so good. The new 1271 01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: season starts I think next month time. I'm jacked about it. Yeah, 1272 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: there it is, Yeah, there it is. I've been saving 1273 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: that sound drop for quite some time. 1274 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you pulled it out at the right time, Thank you. 1275 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I was just a little little treat for people who've 1276 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 1: been paying attention to this entire time. Got ah, Yeah, 1277 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 1: that's I stayed up late the other night, Friday night, 1278 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: I think, watching a couple of the newer south Park episodes. 1279 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 1: There was an episode about city city people moving to 1280 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: south Park and all they only say, like seven words, 1281 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,959 Speaker 1: people moving from the city and driving up real estate 1282 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: prices in south Park, in which Cartman becomes a real 1283 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: estate agent south Park Realty Group and all of the 1284 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: city folk they come in and all they say is 1285 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: bottled water MacBook pro pilates Tesla bottled water, Tesla plates MacBook. 1286 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's pretty great as a city person 1287 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 1: currently moving to a nonhu suburb. Anyway, Uh, it was 1288 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 1: good and I stayed up pretty late for me watching it. 1289 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 1: Very boring. 1290 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Daniel, thank you for imparting some of your wisdom on us. 1291 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 1: I try Hey. 1292 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 2: Always appreciated. We appreciate you out there in the for Ballerhood, downloading, listening, 1293 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 2: supporting the show. Hopefully you made it the full way through. 1294 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 2: We appreciate you hanging around. 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Okay? Are you feeling good? 1317 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 2: No? 1318 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,240 Speaker 1: What network is it on? 1319 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 2: I think it's on Paramount Plus Great. 1320 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Do you own it or will you be pirrating this game? 1321 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 2: I don't own Paramount Plus. It was not included in 1322 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 2: the trade for you. 1323 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: But are you a subscriber? 1324 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 2: I do have a four ninety nine month subscription for 1325 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,759 Speaker 2: you spend just from March, just after March. I'm done, okay, 1326 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 2: but I just bought it for World Cup qualifying. 1327 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Look at you, all right, it's all the time I have. 1328 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 2: Anyway, if you're into that, you can go on Discord. 1329 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,799 Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking about it there in the meantime. 1330 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Thank you Dan for that guy over there, my good 1331 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 2: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilde Brand. We will 1332 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 2: be back with you next week. In the meantime, as always, 1333 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 2: stay solid, Peace,