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Speaker 1: Our two Clay end Buck kicks off. Now let's jump

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Speaker 1: right into it with an economic deep dive. Art Laugher

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Speaker 1: joins us. Now, doctor Art Lafer, former Reagan economic advisor,

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Speaker 1: a guy behind a Laugher curve makes sense and author,

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Speaker 1: brilliant minds, all that good stuff, Doctor Laffer.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure, my pleasure. Thank you for habbing me. By

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Speaker 3: the way, I love your show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you well.

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Speaker 1: You have excellent taste in radio as well as being

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Speaker 1: an economic piece. So tell us this, tell us this, sir,

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Speaker 1: if you would, if we were to give a you know,

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Speaker 1: not just the talking points obviously, that's why we have

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Speaker 1: you on to give us the reality of it, right,

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Speaker 1: the Biden Kamala economy of the last four years. If

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Speaker 1: you were prepping, let's say, Trump to go into a

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Speaker 1: debate and make the case about what it is, what

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Speaker 1: has actually gone wrong, what has gone right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what is your scorecard for the US economy under the

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Speaker 1: stewardship of Biden the last four years?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, if I were Trump doing this, I

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Speaker 3: would first place tell the story of what I did

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Speaker 3: as Trump during my first term. And it's my opinion

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Speaker 3: and as an economist, and I'm just talking about economics,

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Speaker 3: and that's it is. It was the single best first

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Speaker 3: term of any president in US history from the standpoint

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Speaker 3: of economics. And the energy policy was terrific. As you know,

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Speaker 3: we were energy independent because of decontrol because of his

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Speaker 3: policies there, Biden and Harris went the exact opposite direction. Also.

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Speaker 3: He also did an amazing job with Operation Warp Speed.

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Speaker 3: I mean he developed a vaccine in ten months, little

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Speaker 3: less than ten months. That was a phenomenal vaccine. By

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Speaker 3: spending some money and by getting rid of all the

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Speaker 3: red tape. People expected it would take six years or so,

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Speaker 3: and it didn't. He did it in ten months. I

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Speaker 3: mean amazing right to try, you know, the idea that

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Speaker 3: if you've got a terminal disease, you can try any

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Speaker 3: FDA approval. I think that was phenomenal as well. One

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Speaker 3: and Waltz was that medical transparency, price transparency. The executive order.

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Speaker 3: Trump did a phenomenal job on that. The Tax Cuts

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Speaker 3: and Jobs Act worked perfectly. I mean, it really did

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Speaker 3: pay for itself in the first two years, and it

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Speaker 3: brought the rates down me much more competitive, led to

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Speaker 3: firm economic growth, and there were no delays, no mistakes

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Speaker 3: made in that bill. The death tax was reduced quite substantially.

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Speaker 3: All of that was done, the personal income tax drop

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Speaker 3: superb job. And then you compare that with Biden, who

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Speaker 3: raised tax rates, who did a lot of spending. You know,

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Speaker 3: which I don't think should have been done, at least

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Speaker 3: a lot of it shouldn't have been. But Biden did

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Speaker 3: it the whole time there and just wasted them money.

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Speaker 3: And I think the operation of the Fed under Biden,

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Speaker 3: almost every single area of economics, Trump far exceeds Biden,

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Speaker 3: not only in volume but in direction. I think Trump

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Speaker 3: did tax cuts, Biden did tax increases of government spending.

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Speaker 3: Trump did tax spending cuts until the pandemic, and Biden

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Speaker 3: the role played by you know, by peace through strength,

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Speaker 4: Okay, I wanted to have you on, doctor Laffer, and

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I've gotten to meet you a couple

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Speaker 4: of times. You live in Nashville. I think you got

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Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty three grandkids, which I'm glad to

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Speaker 4: have your genes, because we need as much intelligence in

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Speaker 4: economics as we can. But I want to dive in

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Speaker 4: because you're so good at explaining this. You have advised

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Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, going back to Reagan.

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Speaker 3: First, I was in nineteen seventy. I was in the

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Speaker 3: White House at George Schultz's right hand person in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, going all the way back to nineteen seventy, I

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Speaker 4: look and hear Kamala Harris speak, and I think to myself,

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Speaker 4: she is functionally it seems to me economically illiterate, at

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Speaker 4: least with what she is saying publicly. She's talking about

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Speaker 4: price controls on grocery stores. You know this, Grocery stores

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Speaker 4: have one of the lowest level profits we've got in

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Speaker 2: She says that price.

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Speaker 4: Gouging is going on, and seems to be citing things

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Speaker 4: like what would happen with Hurricane Helene. We have laws

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Speaker 4: price cap regulations are associated with. Since nineteen seventy, where

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Speaker 4: does Kamala Harris rank to you from an economic policy perspective.

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Speaker 4: Let's say there's just people out there making a decision. Hey,

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Speaker 4: I just want the best economy out there, because I

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Speaker 4: think a rising tide lifts all votes. That's what the

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Speaker 4: president should do. That's what the federal government should do.

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Speaker 4: Where does Kamala rank in your experience?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm one hundred and six percent with you on

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Speaker 3: the rising tide the Kennedy model. Is this the perfect

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Speaker 3: if you judge her by Biden, that she was complicit

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Speaker 3: in all of the Biden policies, you know, she's a

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Speaker 3: big spending liberal Democrat, clear and simple, and buying votes

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Speaker 3: I mean, that would be the perfect example. Price controls

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Speaker 3: and price controls. I don't think she's aware of all

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Speaker 3: they just didn't work. They caused all sorts of dislocations,

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Speaker 3: trying to make excuses for why there was such high

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Speaker 3: That was exactly what happened. And they also caused the

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Speaker 4: What do you think, doctor Laffer, Let's pretend that COVID

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Speaker 4: doesn't happen Trump in February of twenty twenty, I think

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Speaker 4: we had the strongest economy in the history of the

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Speaker 4: United States, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic wages arising, inflation's one

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Speaker 4: in their pocket if COVID doesn't happen. And we're having

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Speaker 4: this conversation right now, how good do you think a

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Speaker 4: second term? Because I think Trump would have won without

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Speaker 4: COVID for sure, How good do you think a second

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Speaker 4: Trump term would have been for the economy? And where

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think everyone agrees with you that

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Speaker 3: had the best presidency ever in US history. His first

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Speaker 3: a lot more in deregulation, ten deregulations for everyone, the

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Speaker 3: second term was spectacular. I mean, Reagan cut the highest

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Speaker 3: It would have been pieced through strength, and the strength

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Speaker 1: We spiking an art Laffer and Art I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to say, if you could take take us

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Speaker 1: for a look ahead. Let's say that the American people

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Speaker 1: do the right thing and Donald Trump does win for

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Speaker 1: more years. A lot of it will be the reinstituting

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Speaker 1: But what would you add to that, or what would

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Speaker 1: Trump term two to really get things cooking again.

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Speaker 3: I really think price transparency, health transparency. You know, there

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Speaker 3: because we don't have price transparency. You don't know what

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Speaker 3: It's all hidden in insurance companies, policies, et cetera. And

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Speaker 3: we need price transparency, which I think Trump should do.

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Speaker 4: About the national debt and the concept he does debate

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Speaker 4: non incumbent election. Everything's different. I do think people want

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of you believe, and I do

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Speaker 1: Very likely, and I hope that that comes to pass. Also,

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Speaker 1: Biggest takeaways from all of you on that debate last night.

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Speaker 4: Interview, You're going to win. There's no point in doing

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Speaker 7: Why did you do that?

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Speaker 6: I don't see that rebuttle. And the second point is

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Speaker 6: we do not support that. Please quit bringing that up.

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Speaker 1: I hear Scott, those are pretty specific. I mean it's fine.

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Speaker 4: are somewhere around three hundred thousand children that we don't

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Speaker 4: even know where they are. Hopefully they're with their families,

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Speaker 4: but they are lost as a process of coming across

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Speaker 4: the border. But it's a good example of again a

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Speaker 4: rigged question that was set up to try to make

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Speaker 4: him look bad, whereas most of the Tim Walls questions

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Speaker 4: were like Senator, I mean, I mean, Governor, you've done

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Speaker 4: an amazing job in Minnesota. Could you please explain why

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Speaker 4: you're so good on healthcare? You know, also, in many ways.

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Speaker 1: I very obvious that the CBS anchors they're not worried

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Speaker 1: about family separation. And it comes to American citizens prosecutor

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Speaker 1: for non violent crimes for being obstructing a government proceeding

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Speaker 1: on January sixth and being held in solitary confinement, that's

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Speaker 1: family separation. Yeah, solitary confinement separates families. Over a thousand

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Speaker 1: Americans treated like al Qaeda terrorists because in a vast

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Speaker 1: majority of the cases they walked into a government building

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Speaker 1: during a riot and left, and you know, those families

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Speaker 1: are separated and those lives are destroyed, no concern whatsoever

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Speaker 1: from the CP And in fact, they cheered that on.

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Speaker 2: They want more of that.

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Speaker 1: They would like you and me, Clay to be separated

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Speaker 1: from our families by being thrown into prison for wrong think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Also I would build on what you just said, separation

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Speaker 4: of families. JD didn't do it, but a good pivot

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Speaker 4: there as well. I thought he pivoted pretty well and

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Speaker 4: talked about criminals and how they were going to be

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Speaker 4: the first to be deported. Also building on what you said.

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Speaker 4: But it's even worse than that. We're separating families because

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Speaker 4: illegals are murdering innocent people, or family relationships are being

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Speaker 4: ended forever or permanent separatory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and that's what we should be concerned about, is

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Speaker 4: protecting American citizens, not concerned with non citizens feelings. If

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Speaker 4: I have to rank in the priority, that's the way

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Speaker 4: that I would analyze it. But I thought it was

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Speaker 4: all yblematic of the unfair questioning that that's the angle

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Speaker 4: they did it through.

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Speaker 1: You have to people have to have some there's some

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Speaker 1: punishment or else a law means nothing right. And so

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Speaker 1: you can't tell you're not gonna make money from these

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Speaker 1: individuals were crossing illegally because they generally don't have any

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Speaker 1: if you don't detain, if you don't put them through

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Speaker 1: some kind of ilegal process. But what this is what

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Speaker 1: we have a wide open border because why not.

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Speaker 2: Just show up? Just show up, you'll get to stay,

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Speaker 2: and then you go.

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Speaker 1: To these sanctuary jurisdictions and they will give you resources

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Speaker 1: that are taken from Americans with the threat of imprisonment.

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Speaker 1: By the way, because that's what taxes are. They'll take

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Speaker 1: your home if you don't pay your taxes. They'll take

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Speaker 1: your freedom if you don't pay your income taxes, but

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Speaker 1: that money also then goes into the two of billions

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Speaker 1: and billions of dollars of people who, under our own

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Speaker 1: legal statutes are not allowed to be here. And we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be okay with the situation. You know, they'll

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Speaker 1: they'll lock you up for not paying your taxes. But

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Speaker 1: you better be willing to give free everything to all

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Speaker 1: these illegals who show up because they say so. You know,

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Speaker 1: the law is not the law with them. That much

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Speaker 1: is obvious.

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Speaker 2: Dan, and Long Island. What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Dan? Well, at a touch base, I listened to you

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Speaker 7: guys all the time, love the show. Thanks you though

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Speaker 7: that you normally tell us all the time, Clay, that

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Speaker 7: you read the time so that we don't have to.

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Speaker 2: Read it every morning.

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Speaker 7: Today, Yeah, today, for the first time I actually perused

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Speaker 7: through it. I was looking for info on the debate

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Speaker 7: and there was nothing to be found. I know the

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Speaker 7: debate was late, but it seemed to be in other

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Speaker 7: papers and the only blurb was in the front, bottom

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Speaker 7: quarter and he said you could find me on the website.

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Speaker 8: And I just took that as a a signal that

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Speaker 8: they really knew that they got them bucks kicked.

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Speaker 7: Last night and they really had nothing good to say,

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Speaker 7: so they didn't want to say anything.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks for calling in, Dan, and yeah, I read

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Speaker 4: the New York Times and the Washington Post every morning,

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Speaker 4: so none of you have to unless you want to.

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Speaker 4: I will say that one thing I have noticed, Buck,

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Speaker 4: is most newspapers have.

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Speaker 2: Crept even earlier and earlier.

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Speaker 4: They're so called print deadline, so that it used to

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Speaker 4: be when I was a kid, I was really upset

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Speaker 4: because the West Coast sports scores would not be in

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Speaker 4: the morning newspapers. So if you had a favorite team,

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Speaker 4: and my favorite team as a kid was Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 4: and they're playing let's say the Badgers, you wouldn't get

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Speaker 4: that score because the print paper deadline. Now, it seems

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Speaker 4: like the New York Times prints at like four o'clock

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Speaker 4: in the afternoon. I mean, so they have almost nothing

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Speaker 4: relating unless it happened really early in the day. They're

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Speaker 4: like a day behind in the print publication. For us

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Speaker 4: old people out there who still read the print, that's

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Speaker 4: why you have to go online. So I'm not trying

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Speaker 4: to defend them, but I do think that's the function

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Speaker 4: of the paper deadline.

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Speaker 1: We do have a lot of communist ground covered for

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Speaker 1: our audience. Between you reading the New York Times every

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Speaker 1: day and me watching Morning Joe as I drink my

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Speaker 1: crock at coffee in the morning, we we know what

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Speaker 1: they're putting out there, what Pravda is is trying to

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Speaker 1: force feed the Democratic.

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Speaker 4: Well, when I got over to your house and we

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Speaker 4: were in Miami last week, I walked in and there's

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Speaker 4: Joe Scarborough staring right back at him from your big

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Speaker 4: screen television.

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Speaker 2: In your living room.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're not you are you are behind

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Speaker 4: the enemy lines every day, Dave by the way, Springfield, Springfield, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Hey, clam Buck, Hey, I was just calling in. I

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Speaker 9: just wanted to say that, Uh, you know, I've been

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Speaker 9: a lifelong Democrat and I voted Democrat every presidential election

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Speaker 9: pretty much. And I thought that Advance won the debate

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Speaker 9: last night, and I was pretty annoyed by the media

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Speaker 9: a media a media media coverage of Walls winning. And

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Speaker 9: I just want to say I've been I listened to

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Speaker 9: Rush Limba, I've been listening to you guys, and I've

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Speaker 9: become a conservative. And I live in Massachusetts, so I

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Speaker 9: don't think my vote really matters that much.

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Speaker 2: But David. So, first of all, let me ask you

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Speaker 2: this question.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for listening, and we like to think that

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Speaker 4: this can happen, right if you listen to arguments that

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Speaker 4: over time you can start and say, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I think that argument's better than the other argument. I've

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Speaker 4: been willing to be persuaded that I voted incorrectly in

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Speaker 4: the past. I've an open mind. I think I wish

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Speaker 4: more voters did. And I understand you're in Massachusetts, which

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Speaker 4: is a Democrat stronghold, but you can still be very

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Speaker 4: impactful local elections everything else. How did you vote in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, I'm just kind of curious.

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Speaker 9: Oh, I voted for Biden. I actually ran for the

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Speaker 9: Democratic State Committee and was elected. So I was on

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Speaker 9: the Democratic State Committee.

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Speaker 4: And so what is there any one issue that has

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Speaker 4: pushed you to being willing to vote Republican over the

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Speaker 4: last four years? Because I do think while you feel

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Speaker 4: like you're not, you know, represented necessarily or not that common,

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Speaker 4: I actually think there are tens of thousands, if not

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Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of people listening to us right now

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Speaker 4: across the country that have had a similar political trajectory

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Speaker 4: to you. So I'm just kind of curious, what if

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Speaker 4: there was any one or two things that finally pushed

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Speaker 4: you to a different direction.

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Speaker 9: Well, I when I went to the University of Massachusetts,

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Speaker 9: I just noticed there was so much government waste. I

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Speaker 9: don't want my taxpayer dollars going to just wasteful bureaucracy

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Speaker 9: things that aren't helping the average citizens of Massachusetts or

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Speaker 9: the country. Immigration is a huge issue. I think it's

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Speaker 9: completely out of control, and I completely agree with Trump

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Speaker 9: on immigration. But you know, if Vance was the candidate,

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Speaker 9: I would be voting for Vance one hundred percent. Despite

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Speaker 9: his inexperience. I thought he was great last night, and

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Speaker 9: I see a future of respectful debate and a positive

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Speaker 9: conservatism that is going to be better for this country

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Speaker 9: than a road to communism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you for I appreciate you appreciate it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I appreciate him calling in.

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Speaker 1: Uh And you know, look, I know what it's like.

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Speaker 1: Davi is in the middle Massachusetts, which I think is

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Speaker 1: the most Democrat state in the entire country by by

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Speaker 1: red political registration, the blue the bluest I think it is.

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Speaker 1: It is a little bluer than California. Uh, but that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you don't have a role to play

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Speaker 1: as well by trying to make the Democrats more sane

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Speaker 1: around you, and trying to also provide some camaraderie to

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Speaker 1: the other conservatives there. I mean in New York City,

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Speaker 1: I was outnumbered something like eight to one. But you

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Speaker 1: know Fox News is in New York City. iHeart has

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Speaker 1: you know Russia Studio, Shawn Studio. I mean in New

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Speaker 1: York City, So, uh, you know there there are conservatives

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Speaker 1: even in the bluest of places, and they have a

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Speaker 1: role playing all this as well.

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Speaker 2: We have Owen in Surprise, Arizona Surprise.

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Speaker 8: Make sure taking my call, guys, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: First off, I want to say Arizona's going red this year.

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Speaker 8: They're not sticking with blue. I'm telling you right now.

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Speaker 8: I work outside. I work in all retirement communities. I

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Speaker 8: see these polls out there saying that you know, Kamala

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Speaker 8: is winning with seniors. Trust me, she's not winning with seniors.

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Speaker 8: Trust nothing but Trumps signs everywhere. She's not winning. Anyways,

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Speaker 8: the debate last night, I thought it was great. Vance

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Speaker 8: he I haven't really seen him speak that much, but wow,

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Speaker 8: he's a smart guy. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 8: president one day. I really do. Me and him are

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Speaker 8: about the same age, so it was kind of It's

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Speaker 8: kind of inspiring to see someone from my generation get

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Speaker 8: up there and put on a good show. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I thought he dominated. I thought the moderators were absolutely horrible.

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Speaker 8: I thought Walts was nervous and bug eyed, And I

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Speaker 8: will say that I do respect the I want to

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Speaker 8: say I respect Walt's when it comes to the unity

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Speaker 8: that was on display. You know, they shook hands, they

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Speaker 8: agreed to disagree at times. It was kind of nice.

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Speaker 8: I feel like the country really needs more of that,

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Speaker 8: Like we need to have discussions without beating the crap

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Speaker 8: out of each other. We can agree to disagree. We

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Speaker 8: should get back to that. As far as the bias

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Speaker 8: in the for the moderators, I have an easy solution.

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Speaker 8: Have Rachel Mannow host one debate and have Sean Hannity

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Speaker 8: post another. I think it's pretty simple. The country's aware

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Speaker 8: of it. Everyone knows that the media is biased, so

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Speaker 8: I think that would solve everything. But in reality, we

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Speaker 8: know that's.

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Speaker 2: Not going to happen. Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 4: I actually think Buck my solution has been the Republican

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Speaker 4: gets to pick the questioner of the Democratmocrat gets to

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Speaker 4: pick the questioner of the Republican.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, have you could also ratchet it up or

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Speaker 1: ratchet it down, depending on you know, respect would be

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Speaker 1: met with respect and ambush would be met with ambush.

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Speaker 1: I mean last night CBS, no honest person could watch

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Speaker 1: what was going on there and not say, yeah, these

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Speaker 1: anchors are trying to help Walls. It's very you know,

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Speaker 1: we do this for a living. Like I know, within

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Speaker 1: the first twenty seconds of a host questioning any guest,

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Speaker 1: does this host like the person? Are they letting them

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Speaker 1: speak to the Are they gonna let them speak or

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Speaker 1: is this an ambush?

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Speaker 2: You know right away?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you definitely do. We'll come back in a sec.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate all the calls out there. I do think

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Speaker 4: we're getting a lot of responses from people who liked

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Speaker 4: some on the left were unhappy with Tim Walls because

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Speaker 5: Show will continue to take some of your calls in

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Speaker 5: the third hour. Also, we are scheduled to be joined

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Speaker 5: by Trey Yanks, who has a brand new book out

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Speaker 5: Live from Israel, where certainly they had an unbelievable day

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Speaker 5: yesterday with the attack from Iran. Biden has come out Buck,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw it walking across an

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Speaker 5: airport tarmac and said that he does not believe that

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Speaker 5: Israel should attack inside of Iran. So we will see

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Speaker 5: whether or not Israel listens at all to the United

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Speaker 5: of Iran in a major way. That is certainly something

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Speaker 5: to be decided. We have the Jewish holiday Rashashan. I

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Speaker 5: believe that starts tonight, so that may factor in in

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Speaker 4: We come back. We'll take some more of your calls.

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Speaker 4: We'll continue to react to Tim Walls versus JD Vance

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Speaker 4: last night's VP debate. I got an argument for you.

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Speaker 4: I saw an emailer out there already asking me, how

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Speaker 4: do you think the optics and the cosmetics. Nothing from

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Speaker 4: the arguments itself, just how the guys looked is going

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Speaker 4: to play out going forward with independent voters. That's part one,

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Speaker 4: Part two. If you are in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania

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Speaker 4: where it feels like this race is going to be decided,

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Speaker 4: you had two Midwestern guys, Tim Walls, JD Vans. Who

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Speaker 4: do you think more reflected what the Midwest is like

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Speaker 4: and what that appeal might look like.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss coming back to