1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hi in Hello football fan, Jerold Pal, Dave Damashek here. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the Dave Damaschek Football Program. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: You can watch it on YouTube, NFL dot com. You 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: can listen to it on iTunes or Stitcher or NFL 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: dot com Slash Podcasts. We look at the world of 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: pro football and the game called life and now moved 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, everybody, 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: what's happening? DJ Bucky here? Moved the sticks on a Tuesday. 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Interesting week in the NFL. Some good games, yeah, very 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: good games. A lot of uh compelling games, some good 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: some good endings, some good football games. Playoff picture starting 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: to crystallize a little bit. Buck. But before we get 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: to rehashing some of those games, let's set the table 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: of some of the topics. I want to hit on 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: this on today's episode. Jeff Fisher, what happened there with 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: the Rams? Where they go in the future. Definitely want 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: to touch on that. The quarterback situation this upcoming draft. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: I thought we could touch on that a little bit. 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Some interesting names have have been the quarterback market. Break 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: that down a little bit and did a little study, 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: a little homework on the thirty two current starting quarterbacks 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL and found some interesting information on there. Um. 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: But before we get to these games, but Jeff Fisher surprised, 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: not surprised this thing went down the way it did. 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I am not surprised. And the reason I'm not surprised. 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: I was at the game on Sunday and I remember 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: remarking to the people that were sitting next to me 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: that this is the kind of game that we'll get 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: a coach fired, particularly when they haven't had a lot 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: of success and you ride in a long, extended losing streak, 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: You're in a new city, and the team was with 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: the fan base was festive and energized, and then you 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: kind of laid a number of duds in front of 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: the home fans. It was just not a very inspiring performance. 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: And so I knew that his job would be in jeopardy. 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know that he would be fired the next day. 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: But I think here's what it is. You're talking about 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: a guy who's been there for five years and they 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: haven't had a winning record, they haven't been to the playoffs, 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: and even though they've been afforded a number of picks, 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: and you would say that this roster is talented, there's 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: still something missing, either is the development or the voice 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: or the game planning. There's something missing from the Rams 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: because I think we all would say that they're underachieving 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: based on what you see from them when you look 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: at the roster from one. Yeah, I know he wanted to. 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: He placed a lot of the blame on the on 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: the offense, right he said, we our our our issues 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: are there, can't score points, can't finish drives, turn the 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: ball football over all, true, no question, Even more disappointing 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: to me than the offense. The image of this season 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: for the Rams. To me, this this was when I 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: knew it was over. He made he got fired after 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: this last week it gets Atlanta. This was over the 55 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: second that Sean Payton called a trick play at the 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: end of that game, and and it was fist pumping 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and striking up the band on the side. Because that's 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: where it went from, you're losing games, You're getting embarrassed. 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: You got embarrassed in that game against the New Orleans 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: Saints and Williams there was a little friction on the 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: sideline between Jeff Fisher and Greg Williams. That's when I 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: was like, it's over. So some people believe, and probably 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: is the case in Jacksonville, that you don't make changes 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: during the season. You want to just write it out. 65 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: I think we all know that the change is coming 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: there with Gus Bradley, but they're gonna let him continue 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: on through the season. I actually think in this case 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: he was smart by the Rams to let him go, 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: because now you've bought yourself really kind of a month 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: ahead of the curve from whatever openings are around the 71 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: league come up. You can do your homework, you can 72 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: be upfront about it to these agents and start reaching out. 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: You can't talk to the to the candidates themselves, but 74 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: you can gauge interest in a Jim Harbaugh age interest 75 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: if you want to go, you know, with John Gruden's 76 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: name gets thrown out there and you can you can 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: kind of find out if you've got any shot at 78 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: these big dogs. If you don't have them, you can 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: really start digging in and doing your homework and research 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: on some of these other top candidates, maybe a Kyle 81 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan as a coordinator, uh, some kind of an offensive 82 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: mind to bring in there. So I think it gives 83 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: you a little bit of a head start, it was 84 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: inevitable and and I just thought that game. I know 85 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: what you think, but that game against New Orleans that 86 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: was when to me, I was like, this is what 87 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: this has done. I started kind of coming downhill when 88 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: you start out three and one and people were excited 89 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: about what they were able to do. He had gone 90 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: with case keenom uh, he said, case Keenum gave him 91 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: the best chance to win. Suddenly they kind of reverse 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: course and put Jared Golf in, and I want to 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: see what the young guy could do. And I think 94 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: it just never necessarily worked out some of the issues 95 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: or concerns that we have about Jared or any young quarterback. 96 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: Internet situation kind of came to fruition new offensive coordinator 97 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: at a quarterback coach who doesn't have necessarily a lot 98 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: of experience. How can they help those guys get ready? 99 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: But the advantages of making the move now you talk 100 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: about not only getting the head coach, but having a 101 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: full allotment of coaches available for you. So when you 102 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: interview your head coach, he's going to give you a 103 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: list of offensive coordinators and position coaches and guys that 104 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: he wanted to bring with him. Well, the sooner you're 105 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: able to kind of get to that process, the better 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: the chance that he can get it, because guys are 107 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna take sometimes the best, the first job that comes open, 108 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: they're gonna take because they want to make sure they 109 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: have job security. This gives the RAMS an opportunity to 110 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: build the best possible staff that you can to a 111 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: kind of get them off to nine and get them 112 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: back into the mix. And this is something I said 113 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I got a lot of blowback from people, 114 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: but it's interesting. So this is a very coveted job. 115 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: You've got l A which is a great place to live, 116 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: which I think is people to understand how big that 117 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: important that is with people. You've got an extremely patient 118 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: and wealthy owner who will give you anything you want. 119 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: You're gonna have unbelievable facilities, all that kind of stuff. 120 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure they will have as much money as they 121 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: need to go out and free agency do whatever they 122 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: want to do. And he's obviously been patient. You haven't 123 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: had a winning season and Jeff Fisher survived as long 124 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: as he did, so you've got those planes in place. 125 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: You've got some stars on the defensive side of the ball. 126 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is one of the three four best players 127 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: in the entire league is really good player a good players. 128 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: So they've got some good places on defense. And there's 129 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people around the league that believe that 130 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: Jared Goff can be successful. I don't think he's ever 131 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a top five quarterback buck, but I think 132 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: he can be a serviceable starting guy. He's young, he 133 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: going to continue to grow and get better. So I 134 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: tweeted out that this was this was an attractive job, 135 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: and people hit me up like, oh, are you kidding me? 136 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: The owner doesn't care, the quarterback stinks, nobody wants this job. 137 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not something that I'm like, this 138 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: is not like I talked to people, to personnel guys 139 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: and two coaches, and they've been waiting for this job 140 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: to come open. Everyone. It's not me saying this. This 141 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: is from everybody around the weak that's been keeping their 142 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: eye on this thing. Everyone has an eye on that job. 143 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: And I think the interesting thing will be, Uh, you 144 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: talked about an offensive mine. So say you decide that 145 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna hire an offensive minded coach, what does he 146 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: elect to do? Does he elect to blew up the 147 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball and bring his own guys. 148 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Does he try and keep it rolling with Greg Williams, 149 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: So maybe he says, Okay, I got that side in place. 150 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't have to necessarily change. They have continuity on 151 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: that side. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna be 152 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: the head coach and I'm gonna focus on building up 153 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: this offense. So say it said Kyle Shanahan that comes 154 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: in got a young quarterback. The comparison that I made 155 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: for Jerry Golf coming into the league was very similar 156 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: to Matt Ryan. Kyle Shannon hand if he's the coach, 157 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: the top candidate has shown he's taking young quarterbacks and 158 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: put him in offense is where they can succeed. We 159 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: saw that with r G three. We've also seen him 160 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: work with Matt Shob down in Houston to become what 161 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I think is a pedestrian guy who was a two 162 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: time Pro bowler as part of that offense. So his 163 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: system is adaptable enough that young quarterbacks can thrive and 164 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: if they can get enough weapons on the outside. I 165 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: know you're committed to Tabon Austin, but get a true 166 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: number one receiver, someone that can complement him, someone that 167 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: can be a difference make on the outside. The Rams 168 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: has some things where they can make a quick turnaround 169 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: and be in the mix. We've seem to standard has 170 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: been seven and seven and nine. I think they can 171 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: get over seven and nine with the right coach and 172 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: the right plan in place. I agree with you. How 173 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: about when you look at some of the names and 174 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: and the first name that came up obviously was Hardball, right, 175 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: So my thing was Jim Harball played for the Chargers. 176 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Coach at us D has you know, some roots here 177 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: in southern California, so I think it would be an 178 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: attractive thing for him to come back CALIFORNI it I 179 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: just think the timing doesn't work out with having just 180 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: been just second year at Michigan. I think that's a 181 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: little more difficult. Maybe it's a case where you wait 182 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: for maybe this job opens up in three years and 183 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: they're in a new stadium and maybe a little more 184 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: did you come back as a hero? Yeah that then 185 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: you've got your five years in at Michigan. Maybe that's 186 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: more likely to happen. I was just throwing some numbers 187 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: out to people that I'm like, man, I don't know 188 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: that if you're horrible and they offered you ten million 189 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: a year, and I was talking to somebody and they're 190 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: like ten million a year. They might offer him fifteen 191 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: million a year. That's nothing to to stand Crocky, to 192 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: scratch that check. If that's what it takes in. And 193 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to get your new stadium built and create 194 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: some excitement, if you gotta pay so instead of paying 195 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: the ten you paying fifteen five million years what you're 196 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: paying a guard? You know what I mean? Like, what's 197 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: more valuable to your organization getting Jim Harba going signing 198 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: a five million dollar average guard in free agency? And 199 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: anyone that has been to the stadium is seeing the 200 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: brand's play up live. Um, l A is a little different. 201 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: LA has to be about stars, has to be about winning. 202 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: I know we say all fan bases are about winning, 203 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: but in l A, they absolutely expect to see a 204 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: certain level of product when it's on the field. On 205 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: the hardwood. With the Rams, they played boring and they're 206 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: fine with the team winning in a boring fashion, but 207 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: they weren't winning. So the first task is to find 208 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: a way to energize the offense, teach them how to 209 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: play winning football. And whoever is the top guy, whoever 210 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: is the guy that is the leader of the team, 211 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: has to show these young guys how to be professionals 212 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: and how to play winning football. I would say that 213 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: as much as I like Jeff Fisher, sometimes the players 214 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: coach thing can work against you when you have young 215 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: guys that don't necessarily show up and do all the 216 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: things you need to do. All right, let's scratch Jim 217 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Harbaugh off the list. Okay, we've got Kyle Shanahan. We've 218 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: seen a lot of the names for the for the 219 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: coordinators in the NFL that could potentially happen. I just personally, 220 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: even though Kyle shana I think would could be a 221 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: good fit there, I don't think it's has enough sex 222 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: appeal for what they're looking for out here for the 223 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: splash right right, wrong or different than just is what 224 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: it is. But I was thinking back down to college. 225 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: So you want somebody in college that's got a pretty 226 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: good name, has a pretty good resume. I mean, I 227 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: think you obviously would start at the top statan Nick 228 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: Sabans where you would try and just throw out that 229 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: big number. He won't. I don't think he'll do it, 230 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: So you cross him off the list. There was a guy. 231 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: There was a coach though, that was in the Rams 232 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: locker room not too long ago, and I think he 233 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: was down here recruiting, and so he had just popped 234 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: in there, and it was just kind of weird to me, 235 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: David Shaw from Stanford. If you're David Shaw and it's 236 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: always talk about maybe potentially making the leap to the NFL, 237 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: getting back into the NFL, you stay in California. Don't 238 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: you stay in California? Buck. It's a huge pay day there. 239 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: The fan bases knows who he is because he's he's 240 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: beating the tar out of USC for almost his entire 241 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: time up there. He's got pro experience, he's an offensive guy. 242 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: He's losing an all time great player at their university. Really, 243 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: if you look at Christian McCaffrey moving on, you've got 244 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Washington who is now kind of emerged as a little 245 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: bit of a power um. You've got USC backup to 246 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: full scholarships. Now, I'm just I'm I'm just kind of 247 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: adding all these things together and saying, if if David 248 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Shaw was ever going to make the move, if he 249 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: was presented with this opportunity, I think it would be 250 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: tempting I think he has to listen. He has to 251 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: entertain it. I love the setup that he has at Stanford. 252 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: This is album Marty. He probably could be the coach 253 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: there for the next ten to fifteen years, I would think. 254 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: But if he flames out here, he'd probably go back. 255 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's a good point. Uh. He's 256 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: seeing golf up close and personal. They won the Big 257 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Game every year when he was up there, Uh at Stanford, 258 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: so he understands what he's dealing with. He would understand 259 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: what he's getting to the style of play that he 260 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: he wants to put smash mouth football. You've got Todd Gurley. 261 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: It kind of fits a personnel and he's also used 262 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: to doing more with less when it comes to skill 263 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: guys on the perimeter. No disrespect to the Cardinal and 264 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: their receivers, but they don't necessarily have marquee names on 265 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: the outside. He'll fit right in with what they got 266 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: playing with the guys that he would have to inherit 267 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: with the ransom. Sure he would upgrade and try and 268 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: get some guys. Uh. It certainly could be in play. Also, 269 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: his dad has been a long time NFL coach. Um, 270 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of how much control, because I 271 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: think he would want to ask him say so in 272 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: terms of the players and what he's putting together an organization. 273 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: It's a name that has been bandied about. It is 274 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: certainly one that will come into play. I don't love it. 275 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I like it, I don't love it in terms of 276 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: him and the fit and all that other stuff like that. Okay, 277 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm just doing it. Was an interesting name and the 278 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: only other name in college that I was looking at. 279 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, urban Meyer's not going anywhere. But the guy 280 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: coming off of a down year who I've always thought 281 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: personally could be a good NFL coach is D'Antonio. Oh, 282 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: you said, D'Antonio, You know where I thought you were going. 283 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: Where do you think I thought you're going with Brian Kelly? 284 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Yeah, Brian Kelly, that roughier rough. I don't 285 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: know if his personality would play that well in the 286 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: NFL locker room, but I don't think so. You know 287 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: better than I don't think so. So. Yeah, But D'Antonio, 288 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: I think's organized, detailed, smart guy. I thought you'd be interesting. 289 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: He won't. I don't think you'll do it either. So 290 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: if you look at some other candidates. If we mentioned Shanahan, 291 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: give me give me your voice out of this bunch here. 292 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you four names. You tell me who 293 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: would be your first choice, Kyle Shanahan, Josh McDaniels, Jim 294 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: Schwartz or Terrell Austin m hmm. I don't like the 295 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels thing because he's already worked with the organization. 296 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he had okay results with Sam Bradford and 297 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: then he went on. I also don't like the fact 298 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: about that with the New England tree, I haven't seen 299 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: any of the code. I've seen a lot of fruit. 300 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: I have seen a lot, have seen a lot um. 301 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: I have ste O'Brien first place man, Texans rolling. Yeah, 302 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: they're very average, very average, and you don't get it, 303 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: like you don't get the bonus packed Like it's kind 304 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: of like when you go by the toy you don't 305 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: get the accessories, so you don't get Josh McDaniels and 306 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: a little bonus. Bill Belichick comes in as a consultant 307 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: every whatever. Um. Jim Schwartz is interesting, And here's why 308 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I would say Jim Schwartz is intriguing. He's been in 309 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: a similar situation when he herod in Detroit. Detroit was down. 310 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: Detroit had a young quarterback that they had to get 311 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: up and going. He was able to get him going. 312 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: They went to the playoffs. Um it was up and 313 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: down a little bit. He is a little loosey goosey 314 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: in terms of how his team's play, but I think 315 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: he's certainly learned from that experience. I think he's continued 316 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: to learn from the experience in Philadelphia, he's witnessed from 317 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: the other side how to get a young quarterback ready 318 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: to go. I think he could bring some things and 319 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: also his defense. His defense would be a nice fit 320 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: with the personnel that they have. Well, you talk about 321 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: being a fit for the personnel, I mean where Jim 322 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: Schwartz grew up under Jeff Fisher, grew up with Gregg 323 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was around Greg Williams. So that's a 324 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: good point. So you wouldn't schematically defensively, it would be 325 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: a very similar point. So I don't know, and I 326 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: could you sell that. That's what I think. See, I'm 327 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: a big Jim. Everybody knows that listen to the show, 328 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: that I'm a big Jim Schwartz. But I don't know 329 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: if you necessarily have to sell. Because here's I think 330 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: the thing where we hear all the people, all the 331 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: punnis will say, oh, you've gotta get an offensive guy. Whatever, 332 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: that's not true. You need to get the best guy 333 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: who is the best leader of the team, because you 334 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: gotta coach all three phases. You have to be the 335 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: guy that kind of delegates and dust stuff. But whoever 336 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: you bring in, particularly if he's a defensive guy, he 337 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: has to come with an offensive guy ready to go. 338 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: And so who is the hot offensive coordinator or someone 339 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: that you can bring to get this offense going. The 340 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: name that is looming out there is North Turner. Because 341 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: North Turner has had a lot of success. He wants 342 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: to come back to Southern California. Most people presume, um 343 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: he's done it with a number of quarterbacks. The system 344 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of works. He likes Southern California, he has USC ties, 345 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: and he was the head coach of the Charger. So 346 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: maybe someone who is of a defensive ilk can come 347 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: back and maybe bring North Turner with him, and that 348 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: can satisfy the masses. The main thing is they have 349 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: to find a way to jump stop the jump start 350 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: the offense, and they have to do it with guys 351 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: who are experienced in the league, the guys who at 352 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: the top of the offensive food. Shame for the Rams 353 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: right now, we're inexperienced and didn't have enough to get 354 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: those guys going. Yeah, you know, you talk about who 355 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: are the coaches that are going to be available, and 356 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: with the rules the way they are, unless you're on 357 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: a staff that gets wiped out, you're stuck where you are. 358 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: So you get a great head coach. But it could 359 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: be a challenge if there aren't a bunch of firings, 360 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: which it looks like might not be a big gear 361 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: of changes now San Diego, there's some talk that maybe 362 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: Mike McCoy's gone. You've got Ken wizzen Hunt there who's 363 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: been a successful in that coordinator's roll, you know, So 364 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. Maybe that's somebody that you 365 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: could keep an eye on. Um, you know, Greg Roman 366 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: still out there on the street right now. If he 367 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: got let go on Buffalo is more of a smash, 368 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: you know. I don't think that they've been together before. 369 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he was in Buffalo when when Schwartzy 370 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,119 Speaker 1: was there. Maybe it might have been No he wasn't. 371 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Schwartzy was a DC there and I think he can't 372 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: think Greg Roman came the next year. But um so 373 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: there's you know, see see what changes take place? Man 374 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: that the when you look around the league, there's always 375 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: a couple of surprise firings. You know what. We'll see 376 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: what those are. Um you know, I think Chicago hasn't 377 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: been winning games, but I think they've been competitive. They 378 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: have been. That's a weird spot too. That's also a 379 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: weird spot because like with Chicago, you're trying to orchestrate 380 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: a rebuild and you're trying to figure out how to 381 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: do it. Do you jettison your quarterback? If you do 382 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: bring in a new quarterback, who is that quarterback going 383 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: to be? I think the pieces that they've acquired the 384 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: last couple of years have been fine, But you're right, 385 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: there haven't been a lot of wins. Uh. You learned 386 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: about friction in the front office. Canda hey coach and 387 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: the young general manager get along. There's some things I 388 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: think obviously in terms of thinking about the jobs that 389 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: could come open, Jacksonville is one that should and probably 390 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: will come open after Gus Bradley hasn't been able to 391 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: kind of get that engine started. Um, and then you 392 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: always talk about surprise that you've heard names from Cleveland, 393 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: the Jets and some other squads. Uh, it'll be interesting 394 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: to see how Black Monday shakes out. One of the 395 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: things I'm looking at, Um, it's kind of under the radar. 396 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I guess a little bit here, but let me see here. 397 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: I want to see what the record was last year. 398 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Last year the Saints were seven and nine, or they're 399 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: five and eight right now. I mean, they've been average 400 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: for a long time now, they haven't been like we're 401 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: still giving them a pass based on the ability to 402 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: the year in two thousand and fourteen, six and ten, 403 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: seven and nine. They're five and eight right now, and think, good, 404 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: how long? How long can you sustain it? The thing 405 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: is he just signed, he just ainked the new deal. 406 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: Yet thousand thirteen they were eleven and five. So that's 407 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: the last winning year was. I mean, that's a that's 408 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: an eternity though in the NFL it's a long time, 409 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: but I mean, that'd be a name that if he did, 410 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, I believe it. I think I think Sean 411 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: Paigne's daughter is going to Pepperdine or something. Too, So 412 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, what would you have to here's the question. 413 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: If you're the Rams, I'm just going just going with 414 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: this thing now. If you're the Rams, knowing that you 415 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: would love an offensive coach, a big name even better, Gosh, 416 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: you don't have a first round pick though, so I 417 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: don't know what what round theoretically what round pick would 418 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: you part with for Sean Payton? For a coach man 419 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: I love his ability to design? Would you give next 420 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: year's second round pick? So not this this, not this 421 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: upcoming draft? Will say next year's second round pick. I'm fine. 422 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: I'm fine giving up a second round pick for him. 423 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm fine giving up would do it all day. I'm 424 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: finally giving him a second round pick for him because 425 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: I know offensively he can do it. The one thing 426 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton that I would have to ask, who's 427 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: coming with you on DC because Rob Ryan's might be 428 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: available bringing back Reunion because he hasn't been able to 429 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: get the defense right the last few years. He's tried 430 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: it Greg. At the end of Greg Williams run, then 431 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: you had Rob Ryan, you have Dennis Salon. Now they 432 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: still haven't been able to necessarily get the stops to 433 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: be a playoff contender, so he needs to have that. 434 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: But from an offensive standpoint, he's perfect in terms of 435 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: what he brings um to the table. Terrell Austin would 436 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: be interesting. I'm just curious who Terrell has assembled as 437 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: his designated offensive guys. Who would be as offensive coordinator, 438 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: who would be as guy. I will say this and 439 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, and I know a lot of 440 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: people haven't investigated it, but it's been interesting to see 441 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: all of the interim coaches that have been named him 442 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: have all been special teams coaches. I'm wondering how long 443 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: will it be before special teams coaches begin to get 444 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: serious consideration for head coaching jobs, because at the end 445 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: of the day, you want your head coach to be 446 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: responsible for all three facets of the game. Maybe you 447 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: can get a guy that is a former special teams 448 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: coach who has the ability to find an offensive coordinator 449 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: and a defense coordinator that can do their jobs, and 450 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: he just manages the game while kind of keeping the 451 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: bird's eye view, much like John Harball. But here's the thing. 452 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: I've been around, you know several teams. You've been around 453 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: a bunch of teams as well, special teams coaches different different, 454 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: Some of the quirkiest, weirdest human could be different. So 455 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: John Harball has been fantastic. I don't know how. And 456 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: John Harball is sharp and and business like, just saying 457 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't think all special teams coaches are cut out 458 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: of that same cloth as John Harball. That not meaning. 459 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: The first first thing that comes mind is a guy 460 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: who was interviewed for a couple of jobs. Keith Armstrong 461 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: down in Atlanta has been a guy that's been a 462 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: long time Special teams coach who has had some nibbles 463 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: when it comes to head coaching. Um, you gotta be 464 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: nuts to cover a kick. And you got a little 465 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: bit different coach from Kansas City, Dave Top He's interviewed 466 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: a few times for jobs. I just think it's interesting 467 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: as the position, as the game evolves that I don't 468 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that we've seen these special teams 469 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: coaches get opportunities as interim How long before more of 470 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: these guys really get a legitimate shot at getting one 471 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: of those head coaching jobs, Because I think the head 472 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: coach is more than just being a great play call it. 473 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know if just necessarily being a great 474 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator truly prepares you to be 475 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: a head coach. I think there's some certain skills, and 476 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is the best example because Andy was never 477 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: coordinated before you get a gig, and he's had success 478 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: to two places, no question. Um all right, before we 479 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: get to these games, I don't even really games are 480 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: kind of old news. It's too uh Kaiser to me, 481 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: it was interesting Shaun Kaiser from Notre Dame decided to 482 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: enter the draft, and it got me thinking because there's 483 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: some other quarterbacks that have some decisions to make, Some 484 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: underclassmen um in this uh in college football right now 485 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: that could come out. It's not doesn't look like a 486 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: great quarterback class to Shaun Watson is coming out, um 487 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: not coming off of a great year. But uh. Anyways, 488 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: with Kaiser got me thinking about who's starting in the 489 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: NFL right now, the thirty two positions. Um So when 490 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: I put the list together on there, a couple of 491 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: teams had, you know, kind of figured out Chicago. I 492 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: still list Cutler down there as their quarterback until they 493 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: make a change. I think if he was healthy, he 494 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: would be out on the football field. So I put 495 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: Cutler in there with um with Minnesota, the uncertainty with Teddy, 496 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: I ended up just having Bradford in there. Quarterbacks. When 497 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I listed the thirty two quarterbacks was it was pretty interesting. 498 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: I went through and said, Okay, how many these guys 499 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: came out when they were seniors, how many came out 500 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: when they were underclassmen? And where were they selected? So 501 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: in the NFL, right now, buck thirty two starting quarterbacks, 502 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: thirteen of them came out as underclassman. Okay. Of those thirteen, 503 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: ten of them were picked in the top ten. Actually 504 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: uh ten of them were picked in the top three, 505 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: so ten of them were either the first, second, or 506 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: third pick in the in the draft. The three that 507 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: were picked outside of the top ten of underclassman. Ben 508 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was the eleventh pick, so he was right on 509 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: the doorstep Aaron Rodgers, who we thought could be the 510 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: first pick in that draft, and everybody knows, ended up sliding. 511 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: He was a twenty four pick. And the only underclassman 512 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: that's currently starting in the NFL that came out early 513 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: as an underclassman and was not selected in the first 514 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: round was Brock Osweiler, who was the second round pick. 515 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: Fifty seven overall by Denver. So what I'm getting at 516 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: with the point here, and actually before I get to that, 517 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: let me go back through the rest of this list. 518 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: So that's the thirteen guys are underclassman. Of the of 519 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: the guys that stayed four years that are starting for 520 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: their teams you had, I'll just go through them here 521 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: so you can you get a feel for where they 522 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: were picked. Jamie. We have three guys that were the 523 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: first pick overall of the seniors of sorry, uh, two 524 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: of them overall. You had Carson Palmer and Eli Manning, 525 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: both first pick overall, both as seniors. Um, you had 526 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was the second pick overall. Matt Ryan the 527 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: third pick, Philip Rivers the fourth pick, Ryan Tannehill the 528 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: eighth pick. These are all four year guys. Cutler the 529 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: eleventh pick. Flacco eighteen. Drew Brees was in the second 530 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: round at thirty two. Dalton second round thirty five, car 531 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: second round thirty six. That's a in the Kaepernick second 532 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: round thirty six. That's a pretty good collection of second 533 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: round quarterbacks. Then we go third round, Russell Wilson seventy five. 534 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was a fourth rounder one oh two, Petty 535 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: who I listed for the Jets, you know whatever you 536 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: wanna do their fourth round one oh three, Dak Prescott 537 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: fourth round one, thirty five. You have Tyrod Taylor six 538 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: round one, eight Brady six round one, and Simeon seventh 539 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: round to fifty. So when I put that all together, 540 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: a couple of points that I came away with. Number one, 541 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: if you're an underclassman and you're coming out, you better 542 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: have the belief that you're gonna be a first round pick. 543 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: You have to be a first round pick. If you're 544 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: gonna come out and you're gonna be a third, fourth 545 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: round pick, it doesn't There's not really much that shows 546 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: you there that you're gonna be a starter in the NFL. 547 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: The one that is starting outside the first round of 548 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: broadcost Sweller. I know he got paid well, but it 549 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: hasn't been an illustrious ride here. Um. The other thing 550 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: is if you stay all four years and you get 551 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: picked outside of the first round, you could be fine. 552 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Look at all these guys when you start going through 553 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: him outside the first round, Dalton Carr, Russell, Wilson's, Kirk Cousins, 554 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, These guys are really really good 555 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: football players picked outside the first a couple of rounds. 556 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: So to me, if you're if you're making that decision, 557 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: likely Deshaun Kaiser, somebody hopefully has told him there's a 558 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: team out there that will take you in the first round. 559 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: You will go in the first round of this draft. 560 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: If not, you're making a mistake. I think for the 561 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: quarterback position in particular, you need certain assurances when it 562 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: comes to coming out early. The assurances are that you're 563 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a first round pick, that you're gonna have 564 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of go to a team that 565 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily horrible, so you're gonna have an opportunity 566 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: to win games, or you go to a situation where 567 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: you have a veteran quarterback in place. What you mentioned 568 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: to me is fascinating. Underclassman ten of the thirteen, we're 569 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: in the top three. That means, or it should suggest 570 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: that their talents were superior to everyone else in the 571 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: draft class. Not because they were manufactured and pushed up, 572 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: but they were that good athletically physically armed talent that 573 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: they married it. Going at the top of the board, 574 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 1: I mean ten out of thirteen and top three. That's significant. 575 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: And the other guys that you mentioned, two of those 576 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: guys are first round picks. Two of those guys are 577 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: also like the Hall of famers and Big Ben Roethlisberger 578 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers eleven and twenty four respectively. Brock Oswalder 579 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: was scary when he came out. He had only had 580 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: fifteen collegiate starts. He's only like prior to this season, 581 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: he had only had twenty two starts since high school. 582 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, too on this So I'm all 583 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: those guys. So I mentioned ten of the thirteen you 584 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: talked about in the top three, one of them one 585 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: of the three that wasn't in the top three. You 586 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: have to take into account. Ben Roethlisberger might be the 587 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: third Hall of Fame quarterback taken in that draft. Eli 588 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: Manning will have a case with his Super bowls, Philip 589 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: Rivers with all of his career numbers, and then Roethlisberger. 590 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: So that was the best quarterback draft we've had in 591 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: how yeah? I mean? So you're talking about that. So 592 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: now back to the seniors, because we've talked about this 593 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to seniors and why seniors or fourth 594 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: year players are really coveted at the quarterback position. The experience, 595 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: the reps, the maturity. There's something to be in a 596 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: field general for a significant amount of time during your 597 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: collegiate days, learning how to win, learning how to lead 598 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: um a team and your teammates, and handle those confrontations 599 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: that you must have if you're the leader. I think 600 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: the only way you can get those is to be 601 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: in those experiences enough to learn how to craft that. 602 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: Because when you come to the NFL and you're dealing 603 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: with older players, veteran players, those guys still need to 604 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: be kept in check and put in line. The quarterback 605 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: has to kind of set at the table for that. 606 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: The other thing, the lower picks, the guys that were 607 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: taking in the second round that we're seniors, the Daltons, 608 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: the Derrek carrsh even Colin Kaepernick who had success early 609 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: in his career. There's something about the expectation level that 610 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: is different from a second round pick. As a first 611 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: round pick. Those guys weren't expected to come in and 612 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: start right away, lighted up. The pressure in the spotlight 613 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: is a little different. They've had success because a lot 614 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: of those times they end up going to teams that 615 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: were solid solidly constructed, played to their skill sets in 616 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: the fourth round. Kirk Cousins, the Dak Prescott's um, even 617 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady's guys that people missed on, but they 618 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: were allowed the opportunity to kind of sit and wait 619 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and patiently kind of work their way up the roster. 620 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: It didn't necessarily happened for Dak Prescott, but that was 621 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: the expectation for him to kind of serve as a 622 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: red shirt this year. Behind Tony Romo. He played quicker. 623 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: The team is pretty solid on the offense. He's been 624 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: able to kind of manage the bus and do some 625 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: things without flashing his talent. I just believe that after 626 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: seeing Dak Prescott, after seeing Carson Wentz have some success, 627 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: teams are going to be looking for that kind of guy, 628 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: that experience guy who's had to played a lot of games, 629 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: who can give them an opportunity to maybe play quicker 630 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: and have success in the funny thing, I know this 631 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: guy has been up and down this year, but you 632 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: could say that Cody Kessler has been serviceable for the 633 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: Browns when he's been able to stay healthy. Some of 634 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: that may be due to the reps that he had 635 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: three year starter four year guy as a collision. I'm 636 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: not saying that he's the best, but I'm saying he 637 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: was able to step in and post decent numbers because 638 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: he had the experience that he got from SC How 639 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: about that, though there the number one, the one one, 640 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: so first overall picks, I think there's what let's see, 641 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: there's uh six, seven, eight, nine, So there's nine current 642 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: starters in the league right now that we're the number 643 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: one overall pick. Nine of the thirty two were deemed 644 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: to be the best player in their draft class. It's interesting. 645 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: So I mean, just you know, my thing is if 646 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: they have to be clear and apparent that that guy 647 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: has that kind of talent the Matthew Staffords, the guys 648 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: who are transcendent players, like guys that you know you're like, oh, yeah, 649 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: that's what a number one overall she looked like. And 650 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: you can't necessarily push those guys with the board. And 651 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: so that will be interesting when you bring it back 652 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: full circle. We talked about Deshaun Kaiser Kaiser Wasson, maybe 653 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: the kid from North Carolina. If he decides to come out. 654 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: Younger guys say they're sitting at the top, do any 655 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: of those guys exhibit the kind of qualities that you 656 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: look for in the number one overall pick. Now Wasson 657 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: has a little more time to change the narrative. But 658 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: right now I think we're confidently saying not number one overall. 659 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: But maybe he's somebody that there's a lot of teams 660 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: I know that do not view him as a first 661 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: round pick. He can, with his resume, could end up 662 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: being one of these guys that Derek carrs And that's 663 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: maybe in that in the thirties that you don't have 664 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: to necessarily put the pressure on him. But he's got 665 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: a lot of experience. He's won a lot of football 666 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: games that kicks off the charts. He's intelligent, all that stuff. 667 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: He checks all those boxes, checks at the boss already graduate. 668 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing for him. And I kind of 669 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: said when I was doing a review, I looked at 670 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: Watson Mayfield and Lamar Jackson last year for our notebook, 671 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: And the thing that I'll say about Deshaun Wasson is 672 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: he always plays well in very very big games. He 673 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: plays he has these seminal moments where everyone remembers how 674 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: he played what he did last year against Alabama. Now 675 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: when you go back and look at the tape, not 676 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: only that game, but of the previous games. He's always 677 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: been able to step his game up. So now and 678 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: playing in Ohio state team, if he's able to get 679 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: past that and maybe take on Alabama or Washington, two 680 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: big stage games, he has an opportunity to be like man, 681 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: this is a big game player, huge for him. The 682 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: bigger the moment, the better he plays, and it can 683 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: change the way we view him because they look it's 684 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: not all perfect, but when it comes to playing ball, 685 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: he plays it at a level that we need to 686 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: play it, particularly when we're get in the playoffs. And 687 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the other thing. For Deshaun Kaiser, here's what I'll say, 688 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: and I still can see him being the guy that 689 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: experiences that Carson Wentz like Rose. Physically, he's everything that 690 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: you talk about. Six four pounds, can run around, big arm, 691 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: throws a beautiful ball. At his best, he looks like 692 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: he has the talent of a top ten guy. At 693 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: his worst. When he struggled this year, you just worry 694 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: about the confidence and can he kind of get himself 695 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: out of ruts that young guys typically experienced when they 696 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: go to bad teams. When I look at the three 697 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: of the guys that we've kind of softly talked about. 698 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: If I was to take a dart and take a 699 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: flyer on a guy, typically you always go with bigger, 700 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: stronger talent. Yeah, I'm more apt to take a look 701 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: at him because he looks like the prototypical guy that 702 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: stands at the front of the room as the number 703 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: one overall pick. I'm not saying he's great there, but 704 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, of those guys, I could see him enjoying 705 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: a magic carpet ride up the charts. Yeah. I went 706 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: to that first game against Texas. I thought he looked 707 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: like the first overall pick, and then the season kind 708 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: of got away from him and kind of tailed off 709 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: a little bit there at the end. So he'll be instant. 710 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm used to really dig in and study him. But 711 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: we don't have any time really to get into these games. 712 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: But we'll have time in this next Episode's fine. They 713 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: look they can watch our previews. Yeah, we do good. 714 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: They watch our previews for next week's game. So we 715 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: we we we laid it out for you last week. 716 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: Had the games we're gonna playoffs. We're not surprised that 717 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: any of the results necessarily happen, So make sure you 718 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: check out all of that content on the our YouTube channel, 719 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks. Yeah, we got NFL dot com slash 720 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: mts video if you want to catch it on there 721 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: as well. Our Juna fell asleep during that quarterback. He 722 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: knocked out because his team has Yeah, he said Tom Brady, 723 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: Patriot fan who cares the quarterbacks. Jimmy was gonna fall off, right, 724 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: We got Jimmy, Jimmy Gagan unless quarterback in the grounds 725 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: next year again, let's him there we go. All right, 726 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: we'll get into that. I'll have a lot of stuff 727 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: to get into in this next episode. We gotta pick 728 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: the college games on Thursday. Right, yeah, man, it's an 729 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: kick save I'm reading. Okay, So I'm gonna focus on 730 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: that one that I had been focused. I'm a focus now. 731 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be focused on these NFL picks. Last week 732 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: it was a big win for the Move the Sticks 733 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: podcast finally concentrated. All right, let's keep that. Let's keep 734 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: our spot there top that perch. All right, that's gonna 735 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: do it for us, everybody. 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