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Speaker 2: And of course two am Pacific, five AM Easter and

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Speaker 2: the Dance Sensation sweep in the nation. What kind of

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Speaker 2: But we begin with the NBA Finals, which you know,

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Speaker 2: there's like been four games played in seventeen days. I

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Speaker 2: think since May twenty eighth is at seventeen. My math's

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Speaker 2: not great. Days eighteen nineteen days, okay, fair enough, But

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Speaker 2: I gave the NBA Finals short shrift Friday night because

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Speaker 2: this doesn't have any drama. This doesn't have any oomph,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't have any curb appeal. And as far as

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Speaker 2: the game on you know Friday night, we whoa, we

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Speaker 2: might have a series. No, please don't start with that. Please,

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Speaker 2: we've got bupkis. We don't have a series. Should the

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Speaker 2: MAVs win in Boston? Should and they're seven point underdogs,

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Speaker 2: although some MAVs money's come in.

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Speaker 3: You're six and a half in some spots, and you

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Speaker 3: head back to Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I think the game would be played Tuesday for a

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Speaker 2: theoretical potential Game six, and Dallas wins that game, and

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Speaker 2: then you head back to Boston for Game seven. Maybe

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Speaker 2: we'll have a conversation as to whether or not there

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Speaker 2: would be high drama basketball in TD Garden in Game seven,

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Speaker 2: but we're a million miles away from that. It's not

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Speaker 2: worth talking about. I don't feel like that's in the cards.

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Speaker 2: And you know, at the same time, I shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: giving the series as much short shrift as I gave

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Speaker 2: it on Friday night. I give the mask credit, but

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Speaker 2: that win was a dud by Boston, and I think

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Speaker 2: you could clearly see in their eyes. And I know

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Speaker 2: it's against a lot of practice psychology with a lot

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Speaker 2: of license, but I do it all the time. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: I'll have my come up on some day. Perhaps I'll

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Speaker 2: be going to Hell on a scholarship. But it was

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Speaker 2: an embarrassing effort for the Celtics. The MAVs scored twenty

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Speaker 2: two points in the paint in the first quarter. Only

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Speaker 2: hold that thought because I'll come to the one coaching

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Speaker 2: So give the mass some credit, but I think it

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Speaker 2: was a Boston dud each way, anyway you slice it.

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Speaker 2: I think what happens Monday night the Celtics they take

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Speaker 2: a deep breath, they regroup, they'll move the ball better

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Speaker 2: on offense with purpose. They'll go back to that coming

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Speaker 2: at you in waves, swarming defense where they communicate, switch, help,

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Speaker 2: contest just about everything. They're athletic. They don't need to

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Speaker 2: double Luca. The MAVs played desperate Friday. They played with

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Speaker 2: much greater effort, and so we even Luca played some defense.

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Speaker 2: But just remember in the first three games, when the

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Speaker 2: Game four, that might have been a little that might

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Speaker 2: the MAVs actually had their way in the paint.

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Speaker 3: They outscored Boston.

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Speaker 2: Sixty to twenty six in the paint, and Boston came

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Speaker 2: has really needed Kyrie and Luca to be able to

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Speaker 2: the Dallas dual as it were, they've they've been more effective. Uh,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't hit a three to save their lives, but

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Speaker 2: they were twenty one of thirty inside the arc. Now,

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Speaker 2: they told us that Porzingis was technically available for Game four,

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Speaker 2: but then end of the game. I'm guessing you're gonna

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Speaker 2: see him on the floor in game five. That's just

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Speaker 2: my thoughts. So what does Boston have to do to

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Speaker 3: Well, shoot the ball better.

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Speaker 2: I know that sounds simplistic, but that's really basically basically

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Speaker 2: what it is. When you take as many three pointers

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Speaker 2: as the Celtics do, they live and die by the three.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they die by it too. But when the Boston

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Speaker 2: Celtics are making their threes, that also creates space to

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Speaker 2: drive and post up. But when they're not, that space

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Speaker 2: closes up. It gets harder to get into the system.

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Speaker 2: Believe it or not, Boston, the Celtics do have a

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Speaker 2: pretty sophisticated offensive system that ranked as the best in

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Speaker 2: to be the antidote into the games at which Boston

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Speaker 2: didn't shoot well, and he was because he has this

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Speaker 2: unique skill set that really creates matchup advantages every time

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Speaker 3: He missed the other game because.

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Speaker 2: Of the injury, and we'll see what his availability is

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the series. But I would be

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Speaker 2: very surprised if Kristaps Porsingis is not on the floor

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Speaker 2: Monday night. Now, all I think that has to happen

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Speaker 2: and excuse me, Boston just has to show up. And

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Speaker 2: I am not convinced to the least that the ghosts

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Speaker 2: that haunt Kyrie Irving in Boston, he doesn't solve those

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Speaker 2: anytime soon. All Right, he hadn't beaten his former team.

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Speaker 2: I think in ten or eleven tries has not won

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Speaker 2: a game in Boston, any game that Kyrie has played

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Speaker 2: would be a really significant upset, a very significant road upset,

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Speaker 2: which would then bring the series back to Boston. I

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Speaker 2: think I think Boston is gonna is gonna ride Dallas

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Speaker 2: like a stick horse on Monday Night.

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Speaker 3: That's just my It's an opinion, all right.

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Speaker 2: Even if they don't, and I'm equivocating here to work

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Speaker 2: with me, I still think the conversation about we really

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Speaker 2: it all around it all, it all revolves around the

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Speaker 2: ifs this and then that conversation scenario, and I fifths

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Speaker 2: and butts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a

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Speaker 2: merry Christmas. You got to get to a game seven

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Speaker 2: for there to be a real conversation. That means Dallas

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Speaker 2: has to win two more games in a row. After winning,

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Speaker 2: they will have to win three in a row. No

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Speaker 2: one's ever come back, because you've heard of a thousand

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Speaker 2: times now from a three to zero deficit in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: In the NBA Finals, I think all the times there

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Speaker 2: have been three zero deficits, there's only been two or

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Speaker 2: three where somebody even forced a fourth game. I checked

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Speaker 2: out a seventh game. So there is my non gratuitous

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Speaker 2: look at the NBA Finals, and we shall see what

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Speaker 2: we shall see. Can Luca play defense again? His defense

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Speaker 2: actually was was pretty good in Game four, but again

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Speaker 2: it was against the Boston team that looked like they're

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Speaker 2: on a walk about Jason Tatum. He was aggressively trying

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Speaker 2: quiet his critics. He scored fifteen points on four to

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Speaker 2: He tried, but there was a seismicch mismatch there and

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Speaker 2: that was exposed somewhat. The only other thing, too, is

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Speaker 2: the MAVs really killed the Celtics in the hustle stats

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Speaker 2: because they wanted it more, they played harder, they played desperate.

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Speaker 2: So uh, and I want I should he have some

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Speaker 2: props to Derek Lively. He was all over the offensive class.

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Speaker 2: He had seven rebounds to go along with his eleven points.

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Speaker 2: But again the impression I can't get out of my

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Speaker 2: they look like they were maybe disinterested isn't the word,

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Speaker 2: but they did not like to look like the Celtics

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Speaker 2: we shall see Sunday night, Monday night. I keep saying

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Speaker 3: But we're we're going to find out.

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Speaker 2: And I know I'm sort of dragging this out because

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Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is that's really the narrative

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Speaker 2: dragging it out. And I would be shocked, beyond shocked

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Speaker 2: But explain to the folks, obviously, you and I go back.

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Speaker 6: No, you're you're right. Sometimes I just think everyone knows

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Speaker 6: screaming and yelling that you hit a thirty to one shot. People.

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Speaker 6: So what's all that noise over there? I got to

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Speaker 6: try that. So, uh, there's a lot of little things

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Speaker 6: going on.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And I always look at those second everything's going on

436
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Speaker 6: in the casino rather than just look at the wind,

437
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Speaker 6: I always look at the ways that that things go

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Speaker 6: down in the casino. So I just try to when

439
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Speaker 6: I go into the casino, I looked so much. I

440
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Speaker 6: looked so differently at it, Bernie. I look at it

441
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 6: as hey, what can I do here? How can I

442
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Speaker 6: try to get over get the lowest house edge, or

443
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Speaker 6: you know, trying to make it with bonuses, or I

444
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Speaker 6: walk around and look at the different kind of big

445
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Speaker 6: payouts and progressives which could be positive play for the player.

446
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Speaker 6: But I understand people want to come to town. You

447
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Speaker 6: want to end this gambling everywhere? Every state has almost

448
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Speaker 6: almost every state of casinos. Now I understand the thrill

449
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Speaker 6: of it, but I also understand, like the old ABC

450
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Speaker 6: Wild World of Sports, the agony of defeat. So just

451
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Speaker 6: be careful, you're.

452
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Speaker 2: Going down the hill. Hey, before I let you on,

453
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: just ever so quickly, and then we're way overdue for lunch. Hey,

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Speaker 2: say hi to your buddy Fats, the guy you introduced

455
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Speaker 2: me to over Don de Marco's that day. He's been

456
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Speaker 2: following the show a lot in tweeting. I like that guys,

457
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: good dude, and hopefully I'll get together again.

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Speaker 6: You have to remind me which guy was that I

459
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Speaker 6: was there?

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Speaker 2: Well, he goes by Fats on Twitter. I wish I

461
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Speaker 2: could remember his name in the New Jersey guy. I

462
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: think he's uh anyway.

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Speaker 6: I should Fats on Twitter. No, No, he's a really

464
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Speaker 6: good guy. Yeah, yes, he's on Twitter. It's Fat. You right,

465
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Speaker 6: you're absolute. There's a couple of different Fats. It's amazing.

466
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Speaker 6: Most of the Fats I know are all Jim rats

467
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Speaker 6: and they're healthy guys. He's one of them.

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Speaker 9: He is.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, let's not imply he's fat, he's uh,

470
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Speaker 2: he gets after it, Yeah, he gets.

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Speaker 6: No good guys. And then that you're talking about one

472
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Speaker 6: of the old school restaurants here in town, even though

473
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Speaker 6: it hasn't been here so long.

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Speaker 3: But al and Allan Mike Scalli at Great Guys.

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Legends, You and I and Jim Fist another

476
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Speaker 2: name of name dropping right and left with fights for

477
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Speaker 2: a godfathers in the industry. Crack always appreciate you coming on, Bud,

478
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: and I've been traveling a lot so of you. Let's

479
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Speaker 2: connect here the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely preseason football around the corner.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk and well, by the way, one last thing,

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Speaker 2: crack Yep, you're still there.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you become a fixture on this network. Won't

484
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Speaker 3: be long. Now tell the folks where they can find you.

485
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Speaker 3: On Sunday morning.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we're gonna have a countdown. The kickoff will

487
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Speaker 6: be starting in August. And preseason football has been this God,

488
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Speaker 6: it's been stupid the last couple of seasons. I mean

489
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Speaker 6: literally last year. I think we went seventeen and five

490
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Speaker 6: on my releases on my plays last year. It's all

491
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Speaker 6: about information, it's all about having the beat reporters and stuff.

492
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Speaker 6: It's all about knowing what the coaches are going to do.

493
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Speaker 6: Do they want to win? Do they not want to win?

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna have all that countdown the kickoff with myself,

495
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Speaker 6: Jeff Schwartz and Brian. I'll look forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Crack enjoy the rest of the evening, big fellow, We'll

497
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Speaker 3: talk soon, Thank you, sir. All Right?

498
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Speaker 2: Is Bill Krackenberger, the crack Man, the legend. You know him,

499
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Speaker 2: you love him. He's truly a fixed ure, owns the

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Speaker 2: room anywhere he goes. Just a great guy. And you

501
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: hear him Sunday Mornings. Third season, that show is really

502
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Speaker 2: blown up on Sunday Mornings, as has the Saturday show

503
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Speaker 2: coming up. Former basketball player announced his retirement from his

504
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Speaker 2: second job. We'll explain coming out, but first let's go

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Speaker 2: to a guy, the chef. The chef, Now, the chef.

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Speaker 2: You were just in Vegas. I was gonna buy you

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Speaker 2: a beer.

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Speaker 10: Man, what I overestimated the free time I had. I

509
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Speaker 10: was actually with my family on the one basically the

510
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Speaker 10: entire Yes, I was one hundred and ten degrees and yeah,

511
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Speaker 10: I was sitting in a beach chair ankled or neck

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Speaker 10: deep in water. Good, well, good for you with a

513
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Speaker 10: beer in my hand. But I legitimately did want to

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Speaker 10: come see you. I just you know, it just the

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Speaker 10: time it's got by me.

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Speaker 3: If you enjoyed your time, it's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, you come to one hundred and

518
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Speaker 2: ten degree, whether you just put on your jacket, go

519
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Speaker 2: about your business right exactly.

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Speaker 10: And yeah, those craps tables though. I went to Sunset

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Speaker 10: Station and oh yeah that was it was. It was

522
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Speaker 10: a rough time.

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Speaker 3: I live about eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: Well no Sunset station over on Sunset Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: lots of good eateries in there.

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Speaker 3: All right, what we got tonight?

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Speaker 10: Anyway, they did just go final in Omaha. There was

528
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Speaker 10: a lengthy rain. Delight to be again the Florida Texas

529
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Speaker 10: A and M opening round A game. The Aggies do

530
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Speaker 10: eventually win it, though, three to two. To win that

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Speaker 10: first round matchup Kentucky with a game winning home run

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Speaker 10: with two outs in the tenth inning, as they were

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Speaker 10: able to beat NC State five to four. In the

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Speaker 10: Stanley Cup Final, Edmonton a blowout win against the Florida

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Speaker 10: Gators eight to one or Florida Panthers, excuse me eight

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Speaker 10: to one. As the Panthers lead the Stanley Cup Final

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Speaker 10: three to one, they force a game five in Florida.

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Speaker 10: On Tuesday, Conor McDavid his first career Stanley Cup goal

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Speaker 10: as he had a four point performance three assist to

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Speaker 10: goal along with that goal. Dylan Holloway with two goals

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Speaker 10: and an assist. Zach Hyman also with a couple of assists.

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Speaker 10: US Open Golf bryceon Desshambo currently in the lead by

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Speaker 10: three strokes. He shot a third round sixty seven, so

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Speaker 10: right now for the tournament he is seven under par

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Speaker 10: Rory McRoy is tied for second place at four under.

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Speaker 10: American Patrick Cantley also for under parr. NFL news T

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Speaker 10: Higgins has now signed his franchise tax so he will

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Speaker 10: report to camp for Cincinnati next month. In soccer, it's

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Speaker 10: the Euro Soccer tournament. Well have Chris Perherfetza World of

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Speaker 10: Soccer coming up later tonight. But Spain scoring three times

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Speaker 10: in the first half, he won three nil. They won

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Speaker 10: three nil over Croatia. Switzerland beat Hungary three to one.

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Speaker 10: Italy over Albania to one despite allowing a goal in

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Speaker 10: the first thirty seconds. At Major League Baseball, concerning news,

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Speaker 10: for the Dodgers. Yoshinobo Yamamoto had to leave after two

556
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Speaker 10: innings tonight triceps tightness, so he had to leave the game.

557
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Speaker 10: As LA playing the Kansas City Royals, and they eventually

558
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Speaker 10: do lose to Kansas City seven to two. Elsewhere in

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Speaker 10: Major League Baseball, Clubs over the Cardinals five to one,

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Speaker 10: Blue Jay shout out the Guardians nothing, Angels over the

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Speaker 10: Giants four to three, Nationals beat the Marlins four nothing.

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Speaker 10: Orioles over the Phillies six to two, Brewers top the

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Speaker 10: Reds three to one. Tigers of the Ball went over

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Speaker 10: the Astros thirteen to five. The Mets beat the Padres

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Speaker 10: five to one, and the Braves over the Rays nine

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Speaker 10: to two. Red Sox Yankees. That big rivalry game, it's

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Speaker 10: Boston winning it eight four. Mariners beat the Rangers seven

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Speaker 10: to five, Rocky sixteen to four, Winners over the Pirates

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Speaker 10: and the White Sox. Or don't they beat the Diamondbacks

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Speaker 10: nine to two.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie so A little triceps tightness for

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Speaker 2: Yama Modo, that's not good. I had a little triceps

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Speaker 2: tightness earlier in the night when I was crushing a

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Speaker 2: large pizza.

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Speaker 3: That's his story. For a different day though.

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Speaker 2: All right, I see, don Mark, you may have heard

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Speaker 2: of this guy's name is Charles Barkley, and there's only

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Speaker 2: one Charles Barkley. He's believe it or not. He's been

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Speaker 2: on the air for twenty four years. He started at

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Speaker 2: TNT for Crying out Loud back in two thousand. The

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Speaker 2: y two k tired as a player. Just prior to that,

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Speaker 2: he was a tremendous player in the NBA, tremendous two

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Speaker 2: way players, a tremendous player at Auburn I talked about

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Speaker 2: on Friday Night. He got cut by Bobby Knight in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty four Olympic team. But he's gone on

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Speaker 2: to really move the needle in the broadcast world. He's

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Speaker 2: won four Sports Emmys. He is, you know, a great

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Speaker 2: guest whenever he appears on various shows. And he's unique

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Speaker 2: because Charles Barkley is one of the only people that

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Speaker 2: if he says something, he means it. He's known for

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Speaker 2: his blunt honesty. He's not afraid to call a player out.

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Speaker 2: If the player is playing poorly, he'll say he's playing badly.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't like a coach's decision, he'll say he

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Speaker 2: doesn't like it. If he's bothered by social events or

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Speaker 2: current events, he'll speak out. He is he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: a he has a filter from the standpoint, he's polished

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Speaker 2: enough and he's an artful communicator, but he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: a filter in terms of if he wants to say something,

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Speaker 2: he says it. There have been a few times where

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Speaker 2: he's bluntless, has got him into a little bit of trouble.

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Speaker 2: But the show, along with Ernie Johnson and Kenny Smith

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Speaker 2: and Shaquille O'Neal, it's just like four guys sitting around

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Speaker 2: a bar and they've got chemistry and it's coming doing

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00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: it apparently one more year. So Charles Barkley dropped a

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Speaker 2: bomb the other day. Basically, it was very stunning. No

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Speaker 2: one expected to hear this coming. Right after Game four

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Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals on Friday, he said he plans

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Speaker 2: to retire from television after the twenty four to twenty

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Speaker 2: five season.

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Speaker 3: There was no warning. He was a little.

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Speaker 2: Emotional about it. He said he has talked about leaving

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Speaker 2: T and T for other networks. Due to Warner Brothers

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Speaker 2: and Discovery's going to lose the NBA rights after next year.

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Speaker 2: It appears that way, but it sounded to me a

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Speaker 2: little bit that maybe he's just kind of ready to

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Speaker 2: give up the microphone. And here's a quote from Charles.

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Speaker 2: Barkley says, there's been a lot of noise around our

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Speaker 2: network the last few months. I just want to say,

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Speaker 2: I talk to other networks, but I ain't going nowhere

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Speaker 2: other than T and T. But I have made the

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Speaker 2: decision myself no matter what happens, next year is going

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Speaker 2: to be my last on television. I just want to

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Speaker 2: say thank you to my NBA family. You guys have

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Speaker 2: been great to me. My heart is full of joy

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Speaker 2: and gratitude. Blah blah, blah blah, you know the usual.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Then T and T issued a nice response, Charles

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: You know, we love you. A mutual laborage inside. They

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Speaker 2: all that Michigan's okay. All good now, I'm sure they man,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not going to bore you with it. Barkley's

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00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: made no bones about the fact that he's been unhappy

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Speaker 2: with the entire process because TNT is on the verge

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Speaker 2: of losing its NBA package to NBC in theory. In theory,

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Speaker 2: T and T could still try to match NBC's big

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00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: or maybe negotiate a smaller deal with the league, but

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00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: there been indications from Warner Brothers that the network will

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Speaker 2: pursue cheaper deals in other sports such as college football,

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00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: maybe even tennis. Barkley doesn't like that, and that's his

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Speaker 2: right not to like that. But in only the inimitable

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Speaker 2: fashion that Charles Barkley can portray, he's describing as bosses

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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: and the leaders of the company as Colt clowns and decrying,

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Speaker 2: you know what this is gonna mean for the Inside

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Speaker 2: the NBA show. He did have the right to opt

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Speaker 2: out of his deal with TNT should the network lose

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Speaker 2: its rights. He's gone as far as suggesting his production

646
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Speaker 2: company he can't take over the Inside the NBA, but

647
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't believe that was ever gonna be in the cards. Instead,

648
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley has decided to retire, and again, he's just

649
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: like Jerry West or just like Bill Walton. A lot

650
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: of the folks maybe never saw Charles Barkley play, but

651
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: he has earned a following.

652
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: Because of his broadcast.

653
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: Work in the last twenty four twenty four years, even

654
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: though he had a Hall of Fame playing career with

655
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: three organizations, the Sixers, Sons and Rockets.

656
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: Real quickly, I want to go around the room.

657
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: I want to ask a simple question, Chef, you go first,

658
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: You heard what Barkley said.

659
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: Do you believe him?

660
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: Or do you think he has a come up and

661
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: in the next twelve to eighteen months, because remember they're

662
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: been to do it one more year and then he

663
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: says he's out after twenty twenty five. After twenty twenty five,

664
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: have we seen after Charles Barkley behind the mic or

665
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: do you think he comes back?

666
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 10: I think money talks. So if some network, whether it's

667
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 10: NBC or Amazon, shows him the right number, I do

668
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 10: think he would have a hard time at turning that down.

669
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 10: So I think he's just voicing frustration about how not

670
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 10: only is impossible that TNZ will lose the NBA, but

671
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 10: they've kept him and his inside the NBA crew really

672
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 10: in the dark about the negotiations. That seems to be

673
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 10: what he's upset about. So yes, I think I think

674
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 10: that's him voicing his frustration over how that process has

675
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 10: played out, as opposed to him really being dead set

676
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 10: on retiring. So that's how least how I've seen it.

677
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 10: So I think it is possible he retires, but again,

678
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 10: if he's show him the money, I don't see how

679
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 10: he turns it down, given how he seems to like

680
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 10: to live a pretty pretty opulent life right now.

681
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: So well fair enough, and he's got a few shekels. No,

682
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: no real issue there. I do believe him though, with

683
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: respect to the fact he sees himself as a T

684
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: and T guy. He's been there twenty four years and

685
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: I think moving on, he's got a lot of emotion

686
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: invested a T and T. So to start up with

687
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: another network, I don't know if that's going to be

688
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: his jam Bree. What are your thoughts on the issue.

689
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 9: I'm actually I agree. I think that he's if when

690
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 9: he's ready to retire, he's just going to retire. I

691
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 9: don't I don't think he needs to kind of do

692
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 9: like the al Michaels thing and go like the prime

693
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 9: route and like or you know, join another network, right. Yeah,

694
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 9: that's just it's just not the same, and I think

695
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 9: it's just keep the legacy.

696
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: Do you think maybe he wants to be a professional golfer? Now, yeah,

697
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: maybe that swing.

698
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 10: Yes, it's a thing of beauty.

699
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: Charles.

700
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: I know you're listening. It's a thing of beauty, all right.

701
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: Actually it's a thing of beauty. If you're trying to

702
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: kill a snake and am.

703
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: I cut you off? You got the last word. No, no, So.

704
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 9: That that was pretty much like I said. I just

705
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 9: think that he's if like and all this drama just

706
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 9: surrounding all the networks and streaming, it's it's just never ending.

707
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 9: So I think it's it's a good time for him.

708
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: Save the drama for your mama, Mark Ramsey, let's get

709
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: you in on this quickly.

710
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 8: I think if they're able to get his whole team

711
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 8: together as Shack and Aaron, Ernie and the Jet, if

712
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 8: they were able to get them.

713
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 10: Off again, sports studios in laws.

714
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 8: If they were able to get them all together, I

715
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 8: think he would come back. Other than that he's gonna

716
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 8: he would leave.

717
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think there's a sentimentality factor there. I do.

718
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: But I also think Charles is his own man, and

719
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: when he's had enough, he's had enough. It'll be interesting

720
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: to watch. I think when you look at his comments,

721
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: there's a veiled emotional anger there, buried in like, Hey,

722
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: this didn't have to happen. They've been futzing around with

723
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: this now for about sixty days, and I don't like

724
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: the way this is going down, and I don't want

725
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: to start over with someone else. So I think all

726
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: of you bring up good points. My gut tells me

727
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: he after twenty twenty five, he may be done. Barring

728
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: something completely unforeseen, maybe TT jumps back in the game,

729
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: but they could have done that already. All right, coming

730
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: up now, remember top of the hour in seventeen minutes.

731
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Speaker 2: We have in Mark Medina every Saturday night Medina Magic

732
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: Marcus Our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru, and Mark's been

733
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: with me a good couple of years now every Saturday night, midnight,

734
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: fifty two weeks of the year, midnight Pacific, and we're

735
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: gonna talk about a lot tonight. We've got to dive

736
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: back into the Lakers' coaching search, and we'll get into

737
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: the finals, and.

738
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Jerry West.

739
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: I only met Jerry West one time, and it's always

740
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: bothered me that there's this narrative that Jerry West only

741
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: won one championship, but not necessarily his fault. He's not

742
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: like Lebron where you're gonna blame everybody else when you

743
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: lose and take all the credit when you win. West

744
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: is a different dude. He was an extraordinary human being.

745
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: And I want to share with you perhaps the most painful,

746
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: perhaps the most painful NBA Finals loss, where it happened,

747
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: how it happened, and what Jerry's role was coming up

748
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: and might give you a glimpse into a perspective on

749
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Speaker 2: how truly special Jerry West was. I'm Bernie Frattle. We

750
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: are coming to you live from the Las Vegas Fox

751
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Tirack dot Com studios.

752
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: Keep it locked right here.

753
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports RADIOW,

754
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: We're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

755
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from me tyrack dot

756
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Speaker 2: Com studios here in Las Vegas. Coming up top of

757
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: the hour, Medina Magic Mark Medina on our Fox Sports

758
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: Radio NBA Guru will dive into a lot of subject

759
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: matter this week, on court issues and off court issues.

760
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: We lost a legendary.

761
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: Human being the other day, and I will tell you

762
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: that it was announced on Wednesday morning that Jerry West

763
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: had passed it the way of and passed at the

764
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: passed away at the age of eighty six. I don't

765
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: think there's anybody that didn't know. He was one of

766
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: the most influential players figures in NBA history. Played for

767
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers for fourteen seasons, then went on to be

768
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: a coach an executive. I referred to him Friday Night

769
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: as the Simon Cowell of basketball. Simon Cowell, as you know,

770
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: was the creator behind the American Idol and had a

771
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: similar show in Great Britain. If you know anything about

772
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: Simon Coll's history, he had this ability to not only

773
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: ascertain whether or not someone could really sing, really sing,

774
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: but he had the ability and impressions to project that

775
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: that person's talent would become commercially successful, and he.

776
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: Was almost never wrong.

777
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: He took a chance on a wrestler who created a

778
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: hit single in Great Britain thirty years ago and had

779
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: sold the main copies and it wasn't even a singer,

780
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: but Simon Coll k new.

781
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Speaker 3: He was doing.

782
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: That was Jerry West. But Jerry West was a phenomenal

783
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: player long before he became a front office executive and

784
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: et cetera. He hadn't played in the NBA since nineteen

785
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: seventy four. That's fifty years, and everybody has heard a

786
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: thousand times by now that the Lakers had been to

787
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: I believe eight finals and he'd only won one.

788
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: Not fair.

789
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 2: Perhaps the most famous game was nineteen sixty nine Game seven.

790
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: They lost by single basket on their home court at

791
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: home with the Forum. Bill Russell's final game as a Celtic.

792
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: It remarked the sixth consecutive time that the Lakers had

793
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: lost to the Celtics. No fault to Jerry West. He

794
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: had forty two points, thirteen rebounds, twelve assists in a

795
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Game seven. Jerry West was named the first ever Finals MVP.

796
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: Averaged thirty eight points in that series, first ever Finals

797
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: MVP in a losing effort. By the way, the Lakers

798
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: missed eight team free throws that night. Wilt and Baylor

799
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: combined to miss sixteen of those.

800
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: Had they just made two more free throws.

801
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: Well, Jerry West isn't the type of guy that's gonna

802
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: remind anybody of that, But I will, I will coming up.

803
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna dive heavily into the NBA. There's a lot

804
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: to get to guess. There's actually a Game five on Monday.

805
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 2: Laker's got to find a coach and we'll talk about

806
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 2: Jerry West as well. So keep it locked right here.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox

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Speaker 3: Is always news.

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Speaker 2: So without further ado, let me just say this, it's

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Speaker 2: that time, Mandina Magic.

822
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Speaker 3: Our Fox Sports Radio. NBA Google clearly has his finger

823
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: on the pulse.

824
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: Mark so much to get to this week, but and

825
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: I realized there's a finals game will be played.

826
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 3: Monday, Game five.

827
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that in just a second as well.

828
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: But I kind of lost track this week. Mark there

829
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: was there any NBA coaching news around the Lakers.

830
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: I just wasn't paying attention.

831
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Speaker 7: It's honestly, it's the same as last week. It's ongoing

832
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Speaker 7: that they're still talking at candidates.

833
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Speaker 6: J J.

834
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Speaker 7: Redick may or may not cut the job, wait and see.

835
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, breaking news.

836
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: I understand he the JJ Reddick after four score in

837
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: seven years, finally actually interviewed formerly with the Lakers.

838
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Speaker 3: What are your most telling you? How did that go?

839
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Speaker 7: I want to be clear, he has already talked with

840
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 7: the Lakers. He talked with Rob Polinka at the NBA

841
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 7: Draft combine. I believe he talked with Rob a few

842
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 7: other times, so they've had conversations. I think that today's

843
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 7: meeting is more about meeting more people and having more

844
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Speaker 7: in depth discussions. And you know, like with all meetings,

845
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 7: they go well, but we'll see one in the next step.

846
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 7: So if I had to make a prediction here, and

847
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Speaker 7: I will, he will be named the head coach, It'll

848
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 7: be after the NBA Finals are over. But I think

849
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 7: right now it's a matter of trying to find the

850
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 7: right coaching staff around him, and also seeing if there's

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Speaker 7: any concerns about the lack of head coaching experience and

852
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 7: if that overwhelms the positive parts about you know former

853
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 7: NBA player. He gets along well with Lebron James because

854
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 7: of the podcast, and he is a smart basketball savvy mind.

855
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 7: But I do think that not only was the interview

856
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 7: about JJ and gain and know him even more, it

857
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 7: was about trying to get a gauge on what would

858
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 7: be the right coaching staff that's possible to fill out

859
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Speaker 7: so that he can't overcome his lack of NBA head

860
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Speaker 7: coaching experience.

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Speaker 2: And who knows, maybe we'll wake up tomorrow and find

862
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: out they're getting ready to throw a bag at Bobby Hurley.

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00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: Why not right now, just for what it's worth. And

864
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: I never believe that Danny Hurley was going to take it.

865
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: We don't need to go back down that road. But

866
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: and I do think it was not a good look

867
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 2: for the Lakers, But I don't think they should feel

868
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: embarrassed by that. Has there been any fallout whatsoever with

869
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: respect to the way that whole situation went down when

870
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley said no.

871
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 3: I'll pass.

872
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think it was embarrassing.

873
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 7: I think the Lakers took a swing, and they gave

874
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 7: a generous offer. They could have offered even more money,

875
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 7: but I think in fairness, they've still still offered him

876
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 7: enough that would make him you know, I think top

877
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 7: five or six among all NBA head coaches. And you know,

878
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 7: when you look at people like Steve or Great Popolar Chiv,

879
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 7: they're going to make more money for a reason they've

880
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 7: wont championships in the NBA. The second part is that

881
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 7: I think that Dan Hurley's rejection had more to do

882
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 7: with the fact of two things. He's got a good

883
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 7: thing at Yukon and you know, his wife understandably, so

884
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 7: like with all partnerships, player own decisions, and I think

885
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 7: those factors outweighed any of the negative concerns about the Lakers.

886
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 7: And look, the Lakers are not above criticism. They have

887
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 7: a lot of questions about, you know, how their front

888
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 7: office dynamic is, what their vision is for a coaching staff,

889
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 7: especially because of the quick turnover. You know, when you

890
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 7: look at Frank Vogel and Darvin Ham some of their

891
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 7: missus with roster construction the last few seasons. But I

892
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 7: would not rank this on top of that, but I

893
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 7: think that it does lend into question that if Dan

894
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 7: Hurley was their top choice, I understand why it would be.

895
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 7: Why distant process didn't happen earlier. But I think the

896
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 7: Lakers will tell you that they had talks earlier. It

897
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 7: was just it wasn't until you know, two weeks ago

898
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 7: they fell or last week that they felt that there

899
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 7: was actual momentum and a chance to bring him in

900
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 7: for a meeting. But you know, regardless, they're back to

901
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 7: where they were before with talking more agan with J. J.

902
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 7: Riddick and trying to see whether cats are available. But

903
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 7: here's the problem, Bernie, there's not really other cannons available.

904
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 7: You know, James Barrego's available, Kenny Atkinson's available, Scott Brooks

905
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 7: is available. You know, Terry Stotts is available. All those

906
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 7: coaches haven't had coaching experience. But there's not a home

907
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 7: run higher that's available. Because Tyler would agree to an

908
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 7: extension with the Clippers, you know, well before the Lakers

909
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 7: had any shot whatsoever. And then Hurley's back at yukon.

910
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: Storr with Mark Mondina Medina Magic every Saturday night midnight

911
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattles show them in Night Pacific, Mark,

912
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: I got to ask you to caller brought it up

913
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: on my midnight hour segment Friday night and Frankly, I've

914
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: broached this gentleman's name before, Mark Jackson. Why can't he

915
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: at least get a conversation, because if I'm Rob Polinka,

916
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I've got to at least talk to Mark Jackson given

917
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: his experience.

918
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: You played in the league.

919
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Take it away, you know the question I'm trying to ask.

920
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: Rather than me stumble around, go ahead, take it away.

921
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think this is just for the Lakers

922
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 7: answer this is frankly every twenty nine other teams, of

923
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 7: of courseately Golden State Warriors. I think that there it's

924
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 7: clear that, yes, Mark Jackson, former player, he knows his stuff.

925
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 7: He has players that will respect for him and play

926
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 7: for him. But I think that the reason why the

927
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 7: Warriors let him go back in twenty eleven is they

928
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 7: felt that his offensive system ironically was outdated, even though

929
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 7: he is one of the most brilliant point cards in

930
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 7: this game. But you know, when Steve Kirk took over,

931
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 7: mostly with the same personnel, all of a sudden, they

932
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 7: became this offensive juggernaut. I think the second part is

933
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 7: that there's a feeling that when it comes to assistance

934
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 7: and behind the scenes scenes team staffers, there will be

935
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 7: people to tell you that he didn't treat them the

936
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 7: right way. And I think that that's carried, you know,

937
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 7: basically since then. I mean, there's a reason why he

938
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 7: hasn't been back in a head coaching position. And then

939
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 7: I think the other thing, and you know, Mark will

940
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 7: be the first to admit this, you know, when the Lakers,

941
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 7: with the Lakers position they want to do any justice

942
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 7: and asking if he wants to be an assistant coach

943
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 7: because he doesn't want to be.

944
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 10: No.

945
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: No, But but.

946
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: For me, again, it's just an esoteric throwaway comment. Doesn't

947
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: cost anything to have a conversation with a guy. Nine

948
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 2: years have passed, ten years of past.

949
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: Let's move on.

950
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to beat a dead horse necessarily, Mark

951
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Game five, I have his Monday Celtics MAVs. I give

952
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: the mass credit. They played desperate, lucally, even played defense.

953
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: But I really think Boston rides him like a stick

954
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: horse on Monday Night.

955
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

956
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 11: No?

957
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 7: I think that's also what's gonna happen. You know, the

958
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 7: Boston Sealers, for better or worse, for this season, their

959
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 7: quality of play depends on that they feel that they

960
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 7: have to try and that they feel challenged and they're

961
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 7: up three to zero against Dallas, they let their foe

962
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 7: with the gas. I don't think that they're going to

963
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 7: repeat the same mistakes in Game five, but I will

964
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 7: say I think to Game five will be more competitive

965
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 7: than it had been the first three games, because I

966
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 7: think you're going to see a better version of Luca

967
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 7: Doctrich that's not gonna play to the refs. He's playing

968
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 7: better defense along with his usual offensive brilliance, and I

969
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 7: think the rest of the team will play better too.

970
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 7: But I think even with Dallas playing at their best,

971
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 7: and even if Chriss Porzingis isn't available because of his injury,

972
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 7: I think the Celtics they have too much talent depth

973
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 7: to overcome that.

974
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 6: All that.

975
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 7: You know, apologize the Laker fans, but I think we'll

976
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 7: be seeing on Monday Night the Celtics hoisting their eighteenth

977
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 7: championship trophy to now set the league record for most

978
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 7: titles over the Lakers seventeen.

979
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: Wrapping it up with Mark Medein and Medina Magic every

980
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: Saturday night midnight Pacific on the Bernie Frattle Show, Mark,

981
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: I have to invoke.

982
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: The name Jerry West.

983
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: I mean that worse one time, but this I know

984
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: when I say what I'm about to say, you should

985
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: be able to relate to this. I'm talking to this

986
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: guy and I'm observing his eye contact and his demeanor

987
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: as he's listening to what I'm saying, and I'm like,

988
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 2: oh my god.

989
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 3: I'm around the ore.

990
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: He had well beyond just a player and as a

991
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: human being, et cetera. He was listening to what you

992
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: had to say, and you're thinking to yourself, I better

993
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: measure my words carefully. This guy's too smart. Did you

994
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: get that impression to the first time.

995
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: You met him?

996
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 7: Oh, one hundred percent. He loved basketball and he was

997
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 7: a perfectionist, both for better and for worse. Mostly for better.

998
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's the best NBA executive editor editor.

999
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1000
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 7: He You know, he wore losing on his sleeve. He

1001
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 7: never forgot about the disappointments with all those finals losses

1002
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 7: against Boston in his career, and nothing was ever good enough.

1003
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 7: You know, when he got Shaquille O'Neil, he had to

1004
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 7: go to the hospital shortly afterwards because of exhaustion. But yeah,

1005
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 7: I felt that experience too. I think that the fascinating

1006
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 7: part about Jerry West was that he was Obviously he

1007
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 7: was brutally honest about everything, but he also wanted to

1008
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 7: know what you thought about things that you're thinking when

1009
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 7: he would ask you questions, why does he want to

1010
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 7: know what I think? I'm a reporter and he's the

1011
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 7: best NBA executive editor ever. But I think it was

1012
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 7: two things. One, he wanted to see what you're made

1013
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 7: of and see if you know your homework and know

1014
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 7: your stuff, and he would tell you if you did

1015
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 7: or not. I think secondly, he's like any smart executive

1016
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 7: informationist currency and he wants to know the most about it,

1017
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 7: and reporters sometimes have information that's useful. But I think

1018
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 7: the second thing is that he was just very authentic.

1019
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 7: He would share his emotions about things. You know, he

1020
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 7: would have some heavy conversations with me about you know,

1021
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 7: losing his brother David the Korean War and deal with

1022
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: the Depression and dealing with some of his health issues

1023
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 7: the last few years. But he also talked about joyful

1024
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 7: things about you know, his son Johnny for example, rising

1025
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 7: the ranks in the Golden State Warriors front office, and

1026
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 7: just seeing a lot of players that he respect compete

1027
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 7: on a night tonight basis, talk about algend Bale or

1028
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 7: when he passed, and how great of a teammate he

1029
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 7: was and one of his favorite people ever. And the

1030
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 7: late Kobe Bryant was gracious when he was about to

1031
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 7: eclipse him for the Lakers all time scoring record in

1032
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 7: twenty ten, and was always gracious you know after his

1033
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 7: passing too, And so yeah, it was just a very

1034
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 7: enriching experience talking to Jerry West because who he was

1035
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 7: as a person and who he was as an executive,

1036
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 7: all the real deal across the board. I think another

1037
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 7: interesting thing talking to Jamal Wilkes for an interview, it

1038
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 7: was sports keetaz that he had all the different experiences

1039
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 7: with Jerry West, idolizing him seen as a player, playing

1040
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 7: for him as a coach that you frankly wasn't a

1041
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 7: great experience because he was very demanding and Jerry West

1042
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 7: is the first submit that he wasn't cut out to

1043
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 7: be a coach, but also playing for him as an

1044
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 7: executive because he was just very keen on knowing how

1045
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 7: to assemble a roster. And he also dealt with Gain

1046
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 7: trade about Jerry West. But they were able to overcome

1047
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 7: that part because there was just so much respect for

1048
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 7: each other.

1049
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: And I think above and beyond all and you certainly

1050
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: touched on it. He was an authentic, genuine human being.

1051
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 2: He struggled with depression his entire life because he hated losing.

1052
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever completely reconciled it. He would

1053
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: withdraw from social interactions. He even go for days and

1054
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: not talk to his wife or his family. Here's why

1055
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: I share that, not in the pejorative but in a

1056
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: positive because West had enough intestinal fortitude to share his

1057
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: demons and share his battles, because he was trying to

1058
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: tell people it's okay, you can seek help. And he

1059
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: was a spokesman for how to deal with lifelong depression.

1060
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 7: You got the last word, Yeah, I mean, you hit

1061
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: on it really well. And he dealt with those issues.

1062
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 7: But I think that he is a success story with

1063
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 7: being able to find appropriate outlets to still, you know,

1064
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 7: be a winner. And I don't just mean with how

1065
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 7: he competed, but you know, he poured his soul into

1066
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 7: basketball because it was a safe haven and something he enjoyed.

1067
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 7: But he also did a lot of things with the

1068
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 7: community Northern Trust Open for example, that golf tournament he

1069
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 7: was the executive director on for a few years and

1070
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 7: one of the driving forces beyond the fact that he

1071
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 7: loved the golf even though he would make a mad

1072
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 7: when he would miss putts, it raised funds for military families,

1073
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 7: and that tied into the grief that he dealt with

1074
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 7: with losing his brother David in the Korean War. And yeah,

1075
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 7: it was just he lived a very enriching life for

1076
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 7: eighty six years old. Obviously, I'd hope and everyone would

1077
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 7: hope that it could be more than eighty six because

1078
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 7: even last year he was at Summer League watching games

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Speaker 7: as if he's just a scout trying to break into

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00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 7: the business. He would go to Clipper games even though

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 7: he's just a consultant, because he just loved the game

1082
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 7: and he loved to get feedback to whichever team he

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Speaker 7: was working for. So he lived a full life. But

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Speaker 7: because of how great of a life he lived, I

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00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 7: just wish that he could have kept doing it forever

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00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 7: and ever, but unfortunately that's not the way life works.

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00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: Mark great stuff is always Once again, when we sign

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Speaker 2: off on Saturday, you just never know what the news

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Speaker 2: cycle is going to bring the following week.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see you again. June twenty second, Market calendar's peeps.

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Speaker 7: Mark, thanks, but I appreciate you as always.

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Speaker 3: That is Mark Medina, Medina Magic.

1093
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: We bring him on every Saturday night, our NBA Fox

1094
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Guru. We have him on midnight Pacific time

1095
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: every Saturday.

1096
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the WNBA.

1097
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: Invoke the word politics, not because I said it, but

1098
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: a star player for the Dallas Wings had some very

1099
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: interesting comments recently and what her thoughts were on the

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00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: women's Olympic basketball team.

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00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 3: This might really surprise you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle, were Comedy live from the La Vegas

1103
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Tireck dot com studios. Keep it locked,

1104
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: All right, back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Company, live from the tarret dot Com studios here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. As you may have heard, Tuesday, the

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Speaker 2: US Olympic women's basketball team announced their roster. The selection

1109
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: committee chair Jennifer Rozzotti talked about the criteria.

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Speaker 3: But it seems like I've seen so many comments about

1111
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 3: this that they change up, They make.

1112
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: It up as they go along. Might find me of

1113
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 2: a Woody Allen movie. You know, Woody Allen made about

1114
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: fifty movies. They're very clever. They just simply are. They

1115
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: deal with the fallibilities of the human condition in a

1116
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: humorous way that very few have been able to. But

1117
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: one of the original movies he ever made was a

1118
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: million years ago. It was called Bananas, and it has

1119
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: to do with a young reporter who just got his

1120
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: first job as a newspaper. And of course it's played

1121
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: by Woody Allen, and he's dispatched on to San Salvador

1122
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: to report on the war.

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00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah it's a movie, okay.

1124
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: And so while he's there, he becomes smitten with this

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00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: young lady and he really likes her, and he's trying

1126
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: to impress her, and he's trying to convince her he's

1127
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: a world traveler. And so he's telling him, telling her

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00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: all the places he's been, and she says, well, have

1129
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 2: you been to Denmark? Because of course I've been to Denmark.

1130
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: I've even been to the Vatican. She goes Vatican, the

1131
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: Vaticans in Rome, I know, but you know, they were

1132
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: doing so well that has seted a billing in Denmark. Also,

1133
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: that's how I feel about the USA Basketball selection committee

1134
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: and the way they keep changing their mind In three

1135
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: or four days they kept talking and became a long

1136
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 2: winned word salad. I'm not going to go into the

1137
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark omission per se as much tonight, but what

1138
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: I am going to get into a little later is

1139
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: does this reveal the complexities beyond the court and the

1140
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: debate that's raging having to do with the WNBA as

1141
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: a societal entity. A very talented guard for the Dallas

1142
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: Wings by the name of Marique Obinbaballe. Easy for me

1143
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: to say, she's a veteran, that she's been in league

1144
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: about five years. She's averaging about twenty seven points a game.

1145
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: At least.

1146
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: She played her college hoops at Notre Dame. She said

1147
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: the other day on a podcast hosted by Shannon Sharp

1148
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: and Chad Ocho Cinco that she quote took her name

1149
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: out of the pool for US women's basketball Olympic team

1150
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: months ago, and she said she thinks quote politics goes

1151
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: into the selection of the squad.

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: She I think very interesting. Now.

1153
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: Oguin Bwily has been one of the top scorers in

1154
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: the league in her five six years all with the

1155
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: Dallas Wings. She talks about the vibe she feels when

1156
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: it comes to that stuff it doesn't really have much

1157
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: to do with your game. It's like they want to

1158
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 2: decide who they feel like fits with the team.

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Speaker 3: I love it when people speak the truth.

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00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, she's at least speaking her truth, and it came

1161
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: off as very genuine. She also went on to say

1162
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 2: it's subjective who they think should be on the team,

1163
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: because everybody's great in the WNBA.

1164
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: So who they choose is who they choose.

1165
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: You really can't control that. Now, again, this is a

1166
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: veteran player, a guard who's been in the league six

1167
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: seven years and five six years. And let's also remember

1168
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: that she's a prolific player, averaging twenty seven points a game.

1169
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: And you know, I talked about this last night, that

1170
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: it is subjective, all right. And if it happened to

1171
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley in nineteen eighty four when Bobby nightcut him

1172
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: from the Olympic team, that team went under win the

1173
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: gold medal in Los Angeles, And if it could happen

1174
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: to Isaiah Thomas he was omitted from the team in

1175
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two. I think the committee said, well, if

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00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: we want Michael Jordan, he's not going to play. If

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas is there, well, there's a lot of plausible

1178
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: deniability and no one has ever really admitted it. But

1179
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: come on, right, I mean, there's an old joke that

1180
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: if two people are in an elevator and somebody passes gas,

1181
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: everybody know who did without saying a word. So we

1182
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: know what happened there in nineteen ninety two. So it

1183
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: happened to Caitlin Clark. Okay, I'm not upset by the decision,

1184
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: but if you're gonna tell me that she didn't deserve it,

1185
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: they're objective through some personal feelings. And if they're talking

1186
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: about statistics, and you know, the top scorers, et cetera,

1187
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: the top players.

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00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: Look, Ark is.

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Speaker 2: Thirteenth in the WNBA in points per game, not bad

1190
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: for a rookie after her first month, she's fourth, and

1191
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: assists per game. When you look at Sabrina Ionesco, she's eighth,

1192
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: Kelsey Plumb she's eleventh, Jeweloyd fourteenth, all great.

1193
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: Players, they're all on the Olympic squad.

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: They have less assists than Katelyn Clark, who's been in

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01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: the league all of about fifteen minutes. Clark is second

1196
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: and three pointers made to ahead of Tarassi in her

1197
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: first ten games. Caitlin Clark scored more than one hundred

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01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: and fifty points, had more than fifty rebounds and fifty assists.

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Speaker 2: The only other person to accomplish that feat in the

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01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: history of the twenty seven years of the WNBA was

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01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: Sabrina Ionescu. By the way, Kitlin Clark also became the

1202
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: first rookie and only the fourth player ever in the

1203
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: league to record thirty points, five rebounds, five assists, and

1204
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 2: three steals and three blocks.

1205
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: In a single game.

1206
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark moves the needle all right, and not just

1207
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: because she's popular and she was the number one draft

1208
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: pick in the all time leading scorer in college or

1209
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: a various other reasons that seemed to trigger people now.

1210
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: Just hours before she found out she wasn't gonna be

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Speaker 2: on the Olympic team. The other day, Clark did another thing,

1212
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: a rookie w NBA record tying. She had seven threes

1213
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: in a game, scored thirty points in front of just

1214
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: under twenty one thousand people in Washington, DC. They hosted

1215
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever. The night before, that same team hosted

1216
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: the Chicago Sky They drew about nine thousand. What do

1217
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: you think the difference was? All right, Okay, I get it.

1218
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: Picking a roster is always subjective, But is it based

1219
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: on popularity? Is it based on the best twelve players?

1220
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: Does it really matter at this point in the end,

1221
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: Like I said, if it can happen to Charles Barklay

1222
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: and Isaiah Thomas, it can happen to Kaitlin Clark, and

1223
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: I think that puts her in a pretty good company.

1224
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: Everything that has been happening to Kitlin Clark is a

1225
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: massive sign of respect, period. And when a great player

1226
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: in the league like Erique Ogaman Wally speaks out the

1227
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: way she did the other day and speaks truth, you

1228
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: have to pay attention. You have to pay attention. So

1229
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: what does this all mean? What is Caitlin Clark's I

1230
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: won't use the word snub, doesn't feel like a snub.

1231
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: It might be because I from what I'm hearing, the

1232
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: players on their roster don't want her there. And if

1233
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: you have information of the country, please feel free to

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: share it because I'm not ask sourced on this as

1235
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: I am on other things. But what does this really mean?

1236
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: What does it reveal beyond the court And I'm gonna

1237
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: give you some thoughts in terms of the aftermath of

1238
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: leaving Clark off. How she's responded. How does NBC Sports

1239
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: feel about this? They're broadcasting the games, but first let's

1240
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: go back to our guy, the chef, Kevin Wyrett, with

1241
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: the latest.

1242
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, the College World Series in Omaha went deep into

1243
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 10: the night, and that's because the game between Florida and

1244
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 10: Texas A and M delayed by several hours as they're

1245
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 10: opening round matchup went almost at one o'clock in the

1246
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 10: morning in Omaha. But the Aggies do hold off the

1247
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 10: Gators by a final score of three to two in

1248
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 10: that opening round matchup. Kentucky with the walk off home

1249
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 10: run with two outs to go in the tenth as

1250
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 10: they beat NC State five to four. NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs,

1251
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 10: the Edmonton Oilers pound the Florida Panthers eight to one

1252
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 10: to force a fifth game in Florida on Tuesday, So

1253
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 10: the Oiler's staying alive. As Conor McDavid his first career

1254
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 10: Stanley Cup goals at three assists part of a four

1255
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 10: point performance. In golf US Open, it's Bryson Deshamble in

1256
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 10: the lead at seven under par as he's now ahead

1257
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 10: by three strokes. Royan McElroy tied at four second place.

1258
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 10: He shot a third round sixty seven to three under

1259
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 10: par on Saturday, European Soccer Tournament Euro twenty twenty four

1260
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 10: at Spain with three goals in the first half as

1261
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 10: they beat Croatia three nails. Switzerland over a Hungary three

1262
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 10: to one. Italy beats Albania two to one, Despital having

1263
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 10: a goal in the first thirty second of that contest.

1264
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 10: NFL tee Higgins signing his franchise tag with the Cincinnati Bengals,

1265
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 10: so now he's gonna be at camp, which begins next month.

1266
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 10: Major League Baseball, Yoshi Nobo Yamamoto had to leave his

1267
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 10: start after two innings. He had triceips tightness as the

1268
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 10: Dodgers didn't get any better for them as the game

1269
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 10: went along. They fall to the Kansas City Royals seven

1270
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 10: to two. Astros pitcher Justin Verlanders scratched from today start

1271
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 10: and Detroit beats the Houston Astros thirteen to five. Cubs

1272
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 10: over the Cardinals five to one a showta Emon Naga

1273
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 10: tossed seven innings. He's now seven to one with an

1274
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 10: ERA of one point eighty nine. The Mariners over the

1275
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 10: Texas Rangers seventy five Mets win their fourth game in

1276
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 10: a row. They beat the Padres five to one, Orioles

1277
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 10: over the Philadelphia Phillies six to two, and the game

1278
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 10: of twin the Athletics and Minnesota Twins was rained out

1279
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 10: back to you, Bernie.

1280
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: Right FM up.

1281
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: Those vocal cords were an hour away from another performance

1282
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: by the chef, Kevin Wyret All Right. So, Caitlyn Clark

1283
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: about a week ago had a very interesting seventy two hours. First,

1284
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: she was knocked to the floor from behind by an

1285
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: elbow to the back and a non basketball player player

1286
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: basically received zero repercussions.

1287
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: And then a.

1288
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: Couple of days after that, she was left off the

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: women's basketball roster for the upcoming Paris Olympics. In that decision,

1290
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: while that set off another round of heated opinions, all

1291
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: kinds of water cooler talk, all kinds of talk across

1292
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: sports talk radio, including the show, all kinds of talk

1293
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: on TV, there was plenty of conjecture as to the

1294
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: sociological aspects and psychological aspects of the decision. And just

1295
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: like everything else surrounding Kitlin Clark in the WNBA, people

1296
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: dig beneath the surface because there are multiple things that

1297
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: can be true. I've said that thousand times. I can

1298
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: hold two thoughts concurrently. So let's take a look at

1299
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: this from an objective standpoint. If it's possible, was leading

1300
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark off the roster likely the best decision from

1301
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: a basketball perspective, Well, you can.

1302
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 3: Certainly make that case. Absolutely.

1303
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: This is a veteran team with lots of really good guards.

1304
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: They're very stacked at the guard position. Even though I

1305
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: think one of the guards, Chelsea Gray at the aces,

1306
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: I think you only play like one game this year.

1307
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: But regardless, these are established veteran players that have international experience,

1308
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: that have plenty of WNBA experience, and I know that

1309
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: there are possibilities that there could be withdraws, there could

1310
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: be injuries, there could be players that beg off for

1311
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: whatever reason. So there's this narrative out there that Clark's

1312
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: inclusion is still possible. But the truth of the matter

1313
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: is the squad that they want to bring in has

1314
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: players with more international experience than Caitlin Clark. And they

1315
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: say USA is top job in Paris is to win

1316
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: the goal because they've done at every Olympics since nineteen

1317
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: ninety six and their selections show a clear preference for

1318
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: veteran experience, and they say, well, you know.

1319
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: The way to grow the game is to win gold medals. Well,

1320
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 3: you have won seven in a row. Why haven't you

1321
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 3: really grown the game? You have, but you haven't.

1322
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: You can't tell me you're growing the game if you

1323
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 2: lose ten million every year. Now you're gonna lose fifty

1324
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: million this year. That's what's been projected. We're gonna get

1325
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: to that later in the show. I'm gonna break that

1326
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: down based on reports that I've observed. Now they're flying charter,

1327
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, due to health and safety reasons. But be

1328
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: that as it made. It's a decision they make, and

1329
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: they just continue to bleed money. So as long as

1330
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: Santa claus It wants to piss away good money after bad,

1331
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: who am I to say anything? And I to be

1332
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: fair of the WNBA is pretty good product, all right.

1333
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: They play a good pure form of basketball. They play hard,

1334
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: they hustle, Rivalries are forming. You're started to learn more

1335
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: of the players' names. But you know, I don't know

1336
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: what's going to change in the next twenty five years

1337
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: in terms of them making money. We'll see. I want

1338
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: to give it up to Caitlin Clark. She's been tremendously

1339
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: poised and dignified and professional about the situation. She's twenty

1340
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: two years old. If you haven't observed that this young

1341
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: lady shows a level of grace and maturity way beyond

1342
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: her years, you haven't been paying attention because you don't

1343
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: like her. You're triggered if you're going to do anything

1344
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 2: you can to get under your skin, including some reporters

1345
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: who I thought had repidile lams. I'm not gonna mention

1346
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: their names. They're so desperate to get under her skin.

1347
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: And I don't know what exactly they need to hear.

1348
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: Maybe they can tell us. But Clark took the decision

1349
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 2: to stride, saying, quote, honestly, no disappointment. I don't know

1350
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: if I believe that, but she's staying the right things,

1351
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: But honestly, no disappointment. It just gives me something to

1352
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 2: work for.

1353
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 3: It's a dream. Hopefully one day I can be there.

1354
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 3: She's going to be all right.

1355
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,839
Speaker 2: Two or three weeks ago, I gave a pretty biting

1356
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: commentary on many, many great Hall of Fame athletes in

1357
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: four or five different sports that had a slow start

1358
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: for their professional careers. Let's not forget Steph Curry. When

1359
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: he joined the league, he was considered too slight. You

1360
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: weigh one hundred and seventy pounds and were real questions.

1361
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 2: It took a year or two. They almost traded him

1362
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: and kept Monte Ellis. He's now one hundred and ninety

1363
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: pounds and the rest is history. You don't think Kaitlyn

1364
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: Clark can get stronger, and she's plenty quick enough to

1365
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: get her Okay, she might not be lightning fast. Birds

1366
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: can fly to but they can't play basketball. The bottom

1367
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: line is is Kaitlin Clark is a prolific passer, great

1368
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: court sense. She's two steps ahead of her teammates half

1369
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: the time.

1370
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 3: She can shoot.

1371
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: She wouldn't have put up those numbers unless she knew

1372
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: what she was doing. And she's getting bum rushed, he's

1373
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: getting charged, she's getting blitzed every play. They're showing her

1374
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: the ultimate suit of respect, and the truth of the

1375
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: matter is she's handled it gracefully. Nobody way. She's not

1376
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: the only rookie they're going after the other one. Some

1377
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: of the other ones do, but not like this, and

1378
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: you know that, don't act like they're not How does

1379
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: the NBC Sports feel about this? I don't care what

1380
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 2: anybody says. If you don't think they're gonna take a hit,

1381
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: a viewer ship hit because of this, then once again

1382
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: you got your own agenda. You don't care about the facts.

1383
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: Your mind's made up. This has actually been the primary

1384
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: basis for folks wanting to have Caitlin Clark on the team.

1385
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: The media rites, well, they fund the vast majority of

1386
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: the entire Olympic movement, and they've done so for probably

1387
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: fifty years or longer, and Caitlin Clark, whether you like

1388
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: it or not, has been the foremost driver in a

1389
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: really obvious growth in attendance viewership records across this year,

1390
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: both in college basketball and pro women's basketball the WNBA.

1391
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear there's a correlation, there's a

1392
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: cause of effect that Caitlin Clark's presence would have further

1393
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: advanced that situation in many ways, codified what's already been

1394
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: a breakthrough for the WNBA this year.

1395
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,480
Speaker 3: NBC Sports and their parent.

1396
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: Comcast, they want a ratings resurgence because they had Olympics,

1397
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 2: the most recent Olympics in Tokyo and Beijing, and I

1398
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: think that's something to do with that. Of course, they

1399
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: had very low ratings. They want a resurgence. It's a

1400
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 2: situation now where okay, we now have to discuss whether

1401
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: our business goals and putting quote unquote, I say this

1402
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: in their quotes, the best team on the floor because

1403
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: it's objective, are in direct conflict with one another. What

1404
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: do you do the old joke about the golden rule,

1405
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 2: who has the money makes the rules? Okay, there is

1406
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: a downside to arguing the TV argument because even if

1407
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: Kitlin Clark had been selected for the team, I know

1408
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: here we go to making it up again, she may

1409
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: not have played many minutes again due to the greater

1410
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 2: level of international experience, I should say among our teammates. Okay,

1411
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: I get that she might have rode the bench. Get

1412
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: on a couple of minutes. They're gonna win the goal anyway,

1413
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: she gonna But guess what, how many minutes is she

1414
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: going to play by not being on the team? So

1415
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 2: how does that solve any problem? They created their own

1416
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: dilemma for NBC Sports and marketing it because whether you

1417
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: like it or not, Caitlin Clark was a super star.

1418
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 2: Are in college and she's gonna be one in the WNBA. Eventually,

1419
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: She's already done enough early on to show you. She's

1420
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: shown you enough flashes to prove she belongs. Is she

1421
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 2: one of the best twelve players in the NBA? Nope,

1422
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: probably not, but let's see how this plays out. You

1423
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 2: want to ride her epitaph thirty days into the season.

1424
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: Was Charles Barkley, one of the best players in the

1425
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four Olympic team. When Bobby and I cut him,

1426
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: I sure as hell think so.

1427
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: You should have seen the dude at Auburn.

1428
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 2: They may have called him the round mount to rebound,

1429
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: but he played at both ends of the floor like

1430
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: a wild man. He played with his pants on fire,

1431
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: like it was raining gasoline. He would have helped that

1432
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: team now they won the gold medal.

1433
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1434
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: Was Isaiah Thomas, one of the best twelve players in

1435
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety two Olympic team. Come on, you really

1436
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: have to ask that question. So why do you have

1437
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: to keep making it up? Are you one of the

1438
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: best twelve or the argument? Who would you take off

1439
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: the roster? I can name two players I take off

1440
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 2: right now, but I'm not gonna name them, so I

1441
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,480
Speaker 2: don't trigger people to drive off the road into a pole.

1442
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 3: Has nothing to do with anything.

1443
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: That's just I to find an argument because you don't

1444
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: like Kitlin Clark in the first place. Facts hashtag facts.

1445
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: Now there's another narrative, and I don't know. I'm not

1446
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: smart enough to know this. Okay, all the fans, all

1447
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: the supporters, all the advocates of Caitlin Clark, and even

1448
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: Kitlyn Clark herself, there's this new narrative brewing that over

1449
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 2: the long term, based on what happened Tuesday, this might

1450
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: be the best decision for Caitlyn Clark because what's going

1451
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: to happen is the WNB is going to shut down

1452
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: for a month to accommodate the Olympics, and so by

1453
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark not having to travel to Paris and play

1454
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 2: in Paris, she could take a break, an extended break.

1455
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: She hasn't had one in fourteen months. She went directly

1456
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: from finishing her college career at Iowa right to the

1457
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: WNBA draft and two days later she's in training camp

1458
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: in the preseason, started the regular season, and now her

1459
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 2: regular season pressure with the Indiana fever and all the

1460
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: media requests she's feeling every day and all the things

1461
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: and air she's taking, it's got to be exhausting. I

1462
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: believe she's probably deep down relishing the opportunity to rest,

1463
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: to rest mentally and physically rest. She loves competing. It's

1464
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: going to be a great month, though, for her to

1465
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,520
Speaker 2: get healthy rest, maybe get a little time away from basketball,

1466
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: a little time away from the media and all the craziness.

1467
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: Just get a little peace and quiet. So those are

1468
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: all the narratives. Make it up as you go along.

1469
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: Pick the one you like most at the end of

1470
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: the day, and I'll say this, I'll say this. Look,

1471
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a mistake now if they go

1472
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: back and add her to the team, and she's going

1473
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 2: to create a whole new distraction and completely vitiates all

1474
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: the things they said before.

1475
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 3: Her not being one of the.

1476
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: Best twelve, her not having an international experience, she's not

1477
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: going to play she needs.

1478
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: Okay, the decision has been made. Live with it. As

1479
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: you can see.

1480
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: Forty years later, it hasn't hurt Barkley a whole hell

1481
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: of a lot not being on that Olympic team.

1482
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 3: Right, So let's let this play.

1483
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: The thing that bothers me the most about the Caitlin

1484
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: Clark negativity is that she's been in the league all

1485
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 2: of about a minute and a half and you can't

1486
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: wait to Burier. Give her time, let the career play out.

1487
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm not predicting she's going to be a Hall of Famer.

1488
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: She might be.

1489
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: She's already setting records, she's adapting, she's doing better than

1490
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: you think she is, and people want to see her

1491
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: play beyond that. Again, you got your own agenda. I

1492
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: can't fix that. Did a Major League Baseball player check that?

1493
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 2: Did a Major League Baseball umpire have his whole agenda?

1494
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: And does it lead to a larger narrative that I'll

1495
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: discuss at the top of the hour. Sports betting scandals, Well,

1496
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: we are now past the sixth anniversary of the overturning

1497
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: of PASSPA, which created the opportunity for states to legalize betting,

1498
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: and I believe now we have thirty eight But did

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: an umpire play by his own rules and find himself

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Speaker 2: in hot water?

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Speaker 3: This is an interesting discussion.

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Speaker 2: I already fried it. Well, we are a company alive

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Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirect dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back at

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Here are company

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Speaker 2: live from the tyrat dot Com studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Will take you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern,

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01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 2: just getting rolled and coming up top of the hour.

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01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: Very good commentary. Recently, my buddy Jay Cornegay at Westgate

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Speaker 2: executive at.

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Speaker 3: The super Book.

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Speaker 2: He runs the super Book was quoted in the tooth

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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: of the matter is legalized. Sports betting is more popular

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01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: than ever, but it's still in its infant stages. It

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01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: all changed back in May twenty eighteen when the US

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01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: Supreme Court struck down what was called the Professional and

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: Amateur Sports Protection Act, which George Bushen acted in the nineties.

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01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: It's called PASPA. Six years of pass bames of dollars

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: of revenue. Later thirty eight states, we are reaching a

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: moment of reckoning. You're hearing about players banned for life.

1522
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: Now you're hearing about basketball players and investigations. And now

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01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 2: it's happened an umpire. Major League Baseball recently disciplined an

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01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,839
Speaker 2: umpire by the name of Pat Hoberg for violating gambling rules.

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: They announced Friday, they've disciplined him ten days after, just

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: ten days after they levied a lifetime ban on a

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01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: player and suspended four others for one year. Now, according

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01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: to people, I'm not incriminating Holberg. I don't know what happened.

1529
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how they're disciplining him. But he has

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: an umpire in the game this season, he's denied betting

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01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: on baseball. This is his story that has to play

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01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: itself out. But apparently back during spring training, Major League

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: Baseball had an investigation regarding mister Holberg an umpire, major

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01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 2: League Baseball umpire, and whether or not he potentially violated

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,520
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball sports betting policies. Now, apparently the investigation

1536
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 2: didn't find the evidence that the games that he umpired

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01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: were compromised or manipulated. That's a quote, But Major League

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01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 2: Baseball determined somewhere along the line that they needed to

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01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: deal with hence the discipline and the fact he hasn't

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01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: on part of game all year. This was mister Holberg's response, quote,

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: I'm appealing Major League Baseball's determination that actually be disciplined

1542
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 2: for violating sports betty policies. The appeal is pending, and

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01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: so it would not be appropriate to discuss the case

1544
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: if it's found. If is the operative word here that

1545
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: Hilbert bet on baseball, he's in violation of Rule twenty one,

1546
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 2: which punishes people who gamble on games in which they

1547
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: were involved with with a lifetime ban. They bet on

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01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 2: games that they weren't involved in. That's a year long expansion.

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01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: Now that's not a word suspension. Okay, you all know

1550
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: about Tim Donahey, the NBA referee in twenty oh seven

1551
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: sentenced to fifteen months in prison. I'm not going down

1552
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: that road with this, but here's where I am going

1553
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: on top of the hour. Sports betting scandals, I guess

1554
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: they're inevitable. We've had players, we've had front office people,

1555
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: we've had employees, we had players for the Lions.

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01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm now an umpire involved. We'll discuss this coming up

1557
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 3: at the top of the hour. Keep it locked.

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,240
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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man, the Bernie fratle show

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Speaker 2: should be. You know, sports betting is as popular as ever.

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 2: The handle is in the billions, and a whole new

1572
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: legions of people who've never done it before are doing it,

1573
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 2: and people who've always done it continue to do it.

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01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 3: And you know, it.

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01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: Can cross several spheres. I remember years and years ago

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: when I covered the Detroit Tigers. I walked in to

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01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: the clubhouse one day, about two hours before a game,

1578
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 2: and I heard dots of yelling and screaming going back

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01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: and forth.

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01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 3: They were having their Fantasy Football League draft.

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01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: Now, is that gambling, No, but it fed that kind

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01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: of spirit. I don't know if they'd do that in

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01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: the clubhouse today. But there's high sensitivity, there's high alert.

1584
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 2: There's actually high concern now about the fact that sports

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01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 2: betting is crossing several spheres, and there's concern and there's danger,

1586
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 2: it's reaching, you know, certain redline aspects. I just got

1587
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: a tweet from a gentleman. Homer nineteen sixty seventy says

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01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: gambling on pro sports provides increasing opportunit unities for games

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: to be compromised. I've always maintained, don't get players to

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01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: throw games. Get to the officials who saw us before

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01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 2: with NBAF Tim donnalk yeek can only get worse. I

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01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 2: don't agree, I respectfully don't agree that that's gonna happen.

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: It happened with Donnick. He's not wrong, but that was

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01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: also eighteen years ago. We have a whole different set

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01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: of checks and balances now to watch things. You saw

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: what happen a year ago now with the Alabama baseball coach,

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01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: and I mean, it's amazing how big brother is watching

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: in a way you can only imagine so other you're

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01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 2: gonna throw games. But I do think this though. He

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01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: brings up a good point, and that is increasing opportunities, right,

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01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: Instead of for games to be compromised, I would change

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01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: that sentence to increasing opportunities for fans to look at

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01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: skance and people to wonder. Okay, wait a minute now,

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01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: because I can't tell you how many times I've been

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01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: sitting in a sportsbook and somebody will throw a pick

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01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 2: and somebody.

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01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: In the back goes, oh it scave fixed.

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01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 2: Okay, no one wants to hear that, but you hear

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01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: it all the time. But this is not a new conversation.

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago, there was a group of lawyers that

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01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: were representing all the US major pro sports teams and

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01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: the NCAA, and there was a legal fight in the

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01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: state of Delaware over Delaware's bid to expand sports betting

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01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,839
Speaker 2: in the state. But the attorneys for the sports groups

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01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: laid out this warning. And this is again back in

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01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine.

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01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: Here's the quote.

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01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 2: Sports lotteries involving single game betting threatened the integrity of

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01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: professional and amateur sports and are fundamentally at odds with

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: the principal. The principal dot dot dot that the outcomes

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01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: of professional and collegiate athletic contests must be perceived by

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01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 2: the public as being determined solely on the basis of

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01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: honest athletic competition. So when you hear about a John

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01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: day Porter suspended for life because he's in hawk and

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: he has to, you know, help outcomes of games to

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01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,520
Speaker 2: pay off his gambling debts, or you hear this situation

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01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: evolving the San Diego Padres player last week.

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 3: Well back in.

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01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: Two thousand and nine, the leagues in the NCAA prevailed

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01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: in that case. At that time, Delaware was kept from

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01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: allowing single game betting single game betting, but the decision

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: became moot. Nine years later, in May of twenty eighteen,

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01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 2: the US Supreme Court struck down PASPA, which against stands

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01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 2: for the Professional Amateur Sports Protection Act. Six years have

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: gone by, billions of dollars in revenue has been created.

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 3: But it feels when you.

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01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: Peruse various publications, it feels like there's a real reckoning

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01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: happening right now. And there are signs and I was

1639
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 2: perhaps in denial about this, that floodgates could open. It's

1640
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: not just that the legal gambling industry is this giant,

1641
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: huge monster and it's married to pro leagues and it's

1642
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 2: only getting stronger. Let's face it, there is a direct

1643
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: correlation between the property, the popularity of professional college sports

1644
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: and legalized betting.

1645
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 3: Period.

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01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: Why the hell do you think people are watching a

1647
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: Monday night football game when the score is forty two

1648
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 2: to three and the game's decided because someone's got the

1649
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 2: over forty five and a half and they need a

1650
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: field goal or something that happen to get that game over,

1651
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 2: or maybe they got a prop at on one of

1652
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: their running backs and you just need to catch one

1653
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: more pass or gain three more yards to catch that.

1654
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 3: Those eyeballs stay glued.

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01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 2: They have benefited. Baseball has benefited immensely. Football has benefited immensely,

1656
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: and so have college sports. Okay, but the integrity concerns

1657
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 2: that were raised fifteen years ago by a team of

1658
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 2: lawyers are now being thrust back into the spotlight, and

1659
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 2: it's being made prominent by you know, we are finding

1660
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: now they're catching these because we have a loose regulation technology,

1661
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: you've got mobile betting which can be tracked, and there's

1662
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: such a demand, by the way, still for the illegal market,

1663
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: and there's all kinds of nuanced rules for players. And

1664
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: then you know, they say that don't understand, which is

1665
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: complete bologney. There are rookie symposiums, there are team meetings,

1666
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 2: there are seminars NFL players, NBA players, Major League Baseball

1667
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,799
Speaker 2: play If you don't know what the rules are regarding

1668
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: sports betting, vs. V. As it pertains to your sport,

1669
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: you haven't been paying attention. Okay, But be that as

1670
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: it may. These scandals this past week, some people are saying,

1671
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: are only the beginning. I don't know, man, Maybe I'm

1672
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: in denial. Maybe I don't want to see it happen

1673
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: because I know too, you know, I know the big

1674
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: great sportsbook directors in town from you know, Chuck Spasido

1675
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: at Stations, Jay Cornegie over at the Westgate, Tony Miller

1676
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: at the Golden Nugget right on down the line. These guys,

1677
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: if they're really and if they've been on my show,

1678
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: maybe I need to get Tony back on to talk

1679
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 2: about this.

1680
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 3: They're really on the case. They are really on the case.

1681
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is said quote, despite

1682
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: all the efforts, it's bound to happen. Legalized sports betting

1683
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: is in its infant stages. There's a lot of naive

1684
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: people who believe they can circumvent policies that's already been proven.

1685
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Jay's wright operators have a vested interest in keeping these

1686
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: games true and fair.

1687
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 3: Integrity is our product. It's absolutely true.

1688
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: We don't want to accept wagers on something that's predetermined

1689
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: you don't want to compromise the market and create an

1690
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: unfair situation for the player and certainly not for the house.

1691
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: All right Now, since past was a repeal in twenty eighteen,

1692
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: the violations have been basically limited to violation league rules.

1693
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Like, for instance.

1694
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 2: There were several NFL players that were suspended for placing

1695
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: non NFL bets on mobile betting apps within team facilities.

1696
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 2: That happened with the Lions. You know what happened there,

1697
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: especially the receiver. But two weeks ago there were three

1698
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: major betting scandals that came to a head. We talked

1699
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: about it on my show. San Diego Potter's infielder Tikipedio

1700
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: Marcano was banned for life by Major League Baseball for

1701
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: betting on baseball, and four other players were suspended. Ipe Misahara,

1702
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: the former interpreter and confidant of one Shohe Otani, who

1703
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:15,440
Speaker 2: illegally wagered millions that he stole from his buddy Otani.

1704
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: By the way, sports betting is illegal in California. He

1705
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 2: pleaded guilty, and an illegal bookie tied to former Toronto

1706
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,520
Speaker 2: Raptors player John k Porter was also arrested by federal authorities.

1707
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: That's three in the last what sixty days, it's thirty days.

1708
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: When you ban a player for life, that's as strong

1709
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: up message as it can. It can be okay, even

1710
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 2: if you're not the best player in baseball. You depend

1711
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: Marcano's not right. You probably never heard of him. You

1712
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: banned that guy for life. The intended effect is that

1713
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: it's a deterrent. Other people see that and they say,

1714
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 2: oh boy, I don't know, man, I kind of got

1715
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: a good thing happening here.

1716
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to threw this up.

1717
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 2: Now, Missahara, who stole seventeen million from Otani and compiled

1718
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: more than forty million in gambling losses. He's facing over

1719
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: thirty years in federal prison after his guilty plea, and

1720
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball said in a statement that it revealed

1721
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: that Shoheo Tani is a victim of fraud. Now, when

1722
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: I was hosting the Ben Mala Show about a month ago,

1723
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: I tell me I took some callers that are convinced

1724
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: tiny knew more than he was telling them. I have

1725
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: no idea. I'm not going down that road. I'm not

1726
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: doing that. But you see a year, what these optics create,

1727
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: they create an impression, perhaps even an illusion that there

1728
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: is more funny stuff going on, whether it's true or not.

1729
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: All right, I think when you look at the experts

1730
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: in the business, they really believe they sort of dodged

1731
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: the bullet with Epamsahara, because if it had really been

1732
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: Shoheo Tani making the bets and not an interpreter, this

1733
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: would have blown up to be a national scandal ten

1734
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: times worse than the White Sox.

1735
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 3: Of nineteen nineteen. I believe that.

1736
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Back in April, John Tay Porter banned for life by

1737
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: the NBA after league investigation showed he passed injury information

1738
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: to gamblers and then he would intentionally leave games early

1739
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: to pay off gambling debts. What do I mean by that?

1740
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: So you know what a prop bet is. A prop

1741
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: bet is a side bet having nothing to do with

1742
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: the outcome of the game and everything to do with

1743
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 2: individual statistics for players for individual prop bets. So you

1744
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: may say, all right, I'm going to bet johntay Porter

1745
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: tonight to make under two and a half three pointers.

1746
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Then he takes himself out of the game two minutes in,

1747
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: and that's going to cash, and it kind of flies

1748
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: under the radar. But if Porter's giving that inside information

1749
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: to known gamblers, well, now we got a problem. And

1750
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is in exiting these games

1751
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: early he allowed him to pay off gambling debts. But

1752
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 2: the bookie who allegedly placed the prop bets, that was,

1753
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: you know, as a result of Porters inside information. He

1754
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: was arrested last Monday by federal authorities in New York.

1755
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: He was attempting to board a flight to Australia. So

1756
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now you got a lot of

1757
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: intrepid reporters. You have a lot of journalistic types that

1758
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: are looking into this. And it's also possible that inside

1759
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: information isn't just about in the NBA or Major League Baseball.

1760
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: It could leak into college too. We don't know that now. Look,

1761
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 2: thirty eight states offer some form of league life sports betting,

1762
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: and the revenues have climbed. I mean, we're talking about

1763
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 2: from one and a half billion in twenty seventeen to

1764
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: eleven billion last year according to the American Gaming Association.

1765
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: Here at Crackman outed me earlier. People love the bet,

1766
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 2: They get high making the bet, It feeds their competitive juices,

1767
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 2: It allows them to enjoy the viewing participation, they feel

1768
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: like they're involved in some way. I think when the

1769
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: Supreme Court made their ruling in twenty eighteen, one of

1770
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 2: the theories is they didn't anticipate the explosion of mobile betting. Okay,

1771
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: Without mobile betting, a lot of these violations would not

1772
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,440
Speaker 2: necessarily be violations.

1773
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 3: Okay.

1774
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Now, mobile betting operators are mandated to ensure that any

1775
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 2: bet placed by a customer who who is claiming to

1776
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: be in a state with legal lized sports betting, that

1777
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 2: was made in that state, and by the person who

1778
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: owns the account. You see where I'm going with that.

1779
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 2: So an NFL player could be betting vicariously through a player,

1780
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: or any professional athlete vicariously could be betting through a

1781
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: player with an account set up under another name. But

1782
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 2: with more regulated betting, we're seeing now these cases are

1783
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 2: coming to the surface because these investigators and these detection

1784
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 2: abilities are you don't want to know. They're amazing, all right,

1785
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: They are very accurate. You are very much on their radar,

1786
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 2: and this is not something that you want to mess

1787
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 2: with or tamper with. You're fooling yourself. You're fooling yourself.

1788
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 2: So I don't want to throw cold water on what

1789
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 2: clearly has been a positive aspect to enhancing the viewing

1790
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 2: participation of professional in college sports. But there is a

1791
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: reckoning there, honestly is a reckoning that is taking place

1792
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 2: right now, and we are seeing it in I don't

1793
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 2: think it's going to I don't think it's going to

1794
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 2: go away anytime soon. It's almost like, what's next. I

1795
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: think I was wrong about a year ago. I think

1796
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 2: I told people, I said, I don't know, man, they'll

1797
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 2: get this, They'll they'll get on top of this.

1798
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 3: But the optics are changing.

1799
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 2: And since then, you've had two people inside of ninety

1800
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 2: days Band for Life, and you've had the game's the

1801
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 2: biggest star shoe. How Tani compromised by this? Speaking of

1802
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: another major League Baseball star, it's about time you about

1803
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,879
Speaker 2: time you recognize how good this rookie is. He is really,

1804
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 2: really good. His name rhymes with Paul Skeins of the

1805
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates. I gotta tell you what this dude is.

1806
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Do it. It's unheard of.

1807
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fradderwick Company Live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

1808
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 2: Tiret dot Com Studios. Keep it locked right here here

1809
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1810
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

1811
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: We are coming to live from the Tiret dot Com

1812
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas, and in about thirty eight minutes,

1813
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 2: the dance sensation sweep in the nation. What kind of

1814
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 2: brand new fool you followed by what my name? You

1815
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 2: don't want to miss that Rockers screwed to night. We've

1816
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 2: got the chef, Kevin Wyatt, Mark Ramsay, and of course

1817
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Brie will be joining us as well. In the bottom

1818
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: of the hour. After Chef's performance and update, I will

1819
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 2: be diving into the WNBA and their financial headaches. It's

1820
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 2: not all negative. There could see me some light at

1821
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 2: the end of the tunnel. Speaking of money, if you

1822
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 2: saw the movie Moneyball, to me, it's one of the

1823
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: all time classics. I think it came out in twenty

1824
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: ten and I've probably seen it twenty times.

1825
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 3: I read the book. I thought Jonah Hill really pulled

1826
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 3: it off with that.

1827
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 2: Brad Pitt really pulled it off. But it's a class movie.

1828
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is money can't buy

1829
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 2: what Paul Skeens has. He played his college baseball at

1830
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 2: LSU actually started out at air Force six y six, dude,

1831
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 2: one hundred miles per hour. Okay, they started keeping stats

1832
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 2: on every pitch in two thousand and eight for Velocity.

1833
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 2: The only guy in his major league baseball history to

1834
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 2: strike out a guy did it about a month ago.

1835
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 3: Three straight pitches, all over one hundred miles an hour.

1836
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 3: And he is dating a gymnast from LSU.

1837
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say his life is good right now, before

1838
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 2: you get into the stats, look in only his second start,

1839
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: twenty two years old. He flashed in the spring training,

1840
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: and I don't know whether Dick so long to call

1841
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 2: him up, but his second start, he faced the Cubs,

1842
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 2: a second straight town. He struck out eleven hitters over

1843
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 2: six scoreless innings. And this is a team that had

1844
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 2: just seen him like a week before, all right, and

1845
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 2: he even got into a little trash talk. And his

1846
01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 2: fifth major league baseball start, he faced Shohey Otani, and

1847
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 2: this is the story I just tell you told you

1848
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: Schemes blew three straight one hundred mile an hour fastballs

1849
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,759
Speaker 2: right past the best hitter in baseball. When Otani also

1850
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 2: got the better I gotta be fair. His next at bat,

1851
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 2: he's sent one hundred mile an hour pitch over the

1852
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 2: centerfield fence. Okay, it was great theater. It was a

1853
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 2: great theater. This is a guy that just got drafted,

1854
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 2: eleven months on the field and he's facing off against

1855
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 2: the greatest player in baseball right now, I think Otani is,

1856
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 2: and he went toe to toe with him. And then

1857
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 2: just the other night, his sixth career start, Paul Skeins

1858
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: is at exactly six starts. He fanned eight Saint Louis

1859
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 2: Cardinals and got a standing ovation from the good people

1860
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 2: of Saint Louis, one of the great baseball towns in America,

1861
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: for throwing another six scoreless innings. The game recognized game.

1862
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 2: They saw what Paul Skeins has and they were all

1863
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 2: about it. So, Paul Skeins, this is freak show stuff. Okay,

1864
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 2: his stat line through six starts, he's three and oligent starter.

1865
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 2: He's pitched thirty three and he has struck out forty

1866
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 2: six hitters in thirty three innings. This is major League Baseball.

1867
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 2: This is in the Hoboken Zephyrs. Here he struck out

1868
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 2: forty six guys. He's only allowed nine er in runs. Now,

1869
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 2: he hasn't thrown enough innings to qualify in all the

1870
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 2: major statistical categories yet. But he's got an e area

1871
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,480
Speaker 2: of two point four to three, So if he were eligible,

1872
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 2: that would rank tenth in the major leagues. His twelve

1873
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: point five strikeouts twelve and a half strikeouts per nine innings,

1874
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: and the aggregate would rank first in the major leagues. Now,

1875
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: every time we do this, we all look for comparisons.

1876
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 2: Who can we compare him to just to give perspective. Well,

1877
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: remember a while ago they compared Caitlin Clark to Pete

1878
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: Pete Merrivitch, and people lost their mind, not saying he

1879
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 2: was as good as Pete Merrivich. What they were saying

1880
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 2: is is their accomplishments in our statistics were comparable. So

1881
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,440
Speaker 2: you had to bring in some sort of comparative analysis

1882
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 2: to contextualize what was happening here. The easiest one, Steven

1883
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 2: Strasburg out of San Diego State fifteen years ago, was

1884
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: the number one pick overall, and he was absolutely living

1885
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 2: up to the hype early in his career. He had

1886
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 2: a very similar start through six outings, and you know,

1887
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 2: obviously he had a he had injuries and things that

1888
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 2: plagued him. But there's your comp all right. Now, last

1889
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 2: year there was a pitcher named Yuri Perez. He was

1890
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 2: electric and he had great six starts to start the season,

1891
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 2: but he was not striking out people like Paul skeins Is.

1892
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, Jose Fernandez had the same type of

1893
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: startup with Miami. Same goes for back in twenty fifteen,

1894
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 2: Noah Cindigard. But if you really want a comp and

1895
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 2: baseball baseball peeps will know this, I bet Bree know this,

1896
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: I bet Mark knows this. Roy Oswald back in early

1897
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 2: two thousands was phenomenal his first six starts back in

1898
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 2: two thousand and one. But see, he'd already been a reliever.

1899
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 2: He'd had eight relief of appearances before they said, this

1900
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 2: guy's too good, we got to make him a starter.

1901
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,759
Speaker 3: So what's the bottom line.

1902
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 2: We are witnessing an incredibly, incredibly impactful start for this

1903
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: generational prospect. We have no idea if this run is

1904
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 2: going to continue, but the fact that he's already legitimately

1905
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 2: good major league baseball starter. When he was in college

1906
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 2: baseball last year at this time, helping LSU win the

1907
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 2: national championship, he gets drafted. He spent a little bit

1908
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: of time in spring in the minor leagues to get

1909
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 2: used to the lifestyle.

1910
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 3: And.

1911
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 2: He has changed really the fortunes so far of the

1912
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates. If the Pirates can start to win or

1913
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 2: continue to win, who knows. Given this expanded playoff format

1914
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 2: Paul Skemes has been so impactful. What does the Pirates

1915
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 2: become buyers at the trade deadline? I'm not predicting that,

1916
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: but what I am saying is this. This is a

1917
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 2: guy twenty two years old, and if you haven't noticed,

1918
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 2: he has taken the war world by storm in Major

1919
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 2: League Baseball. If you get a chance watch him pitch,

1920
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Speaker 2: you will not be disappointed. If you get a chance,

1921
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 2: go see him pitch. I haven't seen him in person,

1922
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 2: but my buddy Larry Sorenson, who has been on the

1923
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 2: show ten year major leaguer and his current role is

1924
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 2: as the color analyst for Wake Forest Baseball and football,

1925
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 2: He's seen him pitch in person many times and he says, man,

1926
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 2: you don't want to grab a bat against this guy.

1927
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: So all right.

1928
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 2: Coming up after the chef's performance, the NBA, the Dutch

1929
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 2: check that the WNBA is having one of its best

1930
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: seasons ever. Viewership's at an all time high twenty six years.

1931
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 3: This is it's peak.

1932
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 2: Compared to last May, merchandise sales for the WNBA is

1933
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 2: up eight hundred percent, the league pass subscription is up

1934
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 2: three hundred percent. And yet, yet, according to the Washington Post,

1935
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 2: the WNBA and the twelve teams that comprise the WNBA

1936
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 2: are expected to lose roughly fifty million dollars this year.

1937
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: So the league is booming, but the reality of it

1938
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 2: is one great season isn't going to fix its balance sheet.

1939
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about the relationship with the NBA

1940
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 2: and the WNBA. What's happening there. Take a little bit

1941
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: behind the curtain and we're down the road. There actually

1942
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:23,839
Speaker 2: could be a light at the end of the tunnel.

1943
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 2: We shall see. But when I heard I already know that.

1944
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 2: I already knew that the WNBA was you know, had

1945
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 2: had averaged about ten million dollars in losses.

1946
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Speaker 3: Per year for twenty six years.

1947
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 2: But when I heard that they were poised to lose

1948
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars this year, I said, I got to

1949
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 2: look into this because they are having a renaissance when

1950
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 2: it comes to eyeballs and attendants and TV ratings and

1951
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 2: all those things.

1952
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 3: So we'll take a look at this coming up.

1953
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 2: But first, yes, you know me love me, can't leave

1954
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 2: without the chef stiffer his performance at his update.

1955
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 3: Maybe you know you the for me? You know all

1956
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 3: that I want to be and.

1957
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 11: And her simultane as you and me and you and

1958
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 11: you simultane love him me there two or three sm

1959
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 11: So what are your saucier ones there, chef, get those

1960
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 11: voices over.

1961
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 3: I think the week in the Vegas Sun, did you well?

1962
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 10: Oh, it absolutely did. And I practiced my singing all

1963
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 10: week and I had to make sure I get off.

1964
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 10: That performance paid off for all of our wonderful listeners

1965
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 10: this week when I made my return, so happy, you.

1966
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: Know, we set the record straight. Of course, south Park

1967
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: one of the great shows of all time. Uh, Kenny Cartman,

1968
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 2: you know the whole BUSHBOOKA but this is not the chef.

1969
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,520
Speaker 2: This is actually our chef and white.

1970
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 10: And that's absolutely me. Yeah.

1971
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 3: There ain't no gap, no way, there are no screab

1972
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 3: We don't want no scrubs.

1973
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 10: Man, anyway, no scrubs in the Edmonton Oilers side of things.

1974
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 10: In that NHL Stanley Cup final eight to one, Wow

1975
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 10: Florida Panthers, though still up ahead of this series three

1976
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 10: games to one, but the Oilers do avoid elimination force

1977
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 10: a fifth game in Sunrise on Tuesday. Connor McDavid a

1978
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 10: four point night, including his first career Stanley Cup goal.

1979
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 10: He had three assists and four Edmonton Dylan Holloway two

1980
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 10: goals in an assist. Zach Hyman also with a couple

1981
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 10: assists as well. In the College World Series, we had

1982
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 10: a game and late at night. In fact, it was

1983
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 10: actually early in the morning local time when that Florida,

1984
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 10: Texas A and M contest finally came to an end

1985
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 10: after a lengthy rain delay. And it is the Aggie.

1986
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 10: He's holding off the Gators three to two in the

1987
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 10: opening roundy with a walk off shot with two outs

1988
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 10: ago in the tenth inning as it's Mitchell Daily the

1989
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 10: hero for the Wildcats. They take down the NC State

1990
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 10: Wolfpack five to four. In the US Open, Bryson Deshambeau

1991
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 10: shoots a third round sixty seven. He is seven under

1992
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 10: four of the tournament and he's ahead by three strokes.

1993
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 10: Roy McElroy tied a four second place in the NFL.

1994
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 10: The Bengals wide receiver T Higgins. He signed his franchise tax.

1995
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 10: He will be in camp next month. We got a

1996
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 10: lot of soccer going on right now, the Euro twenty

1997
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 10: twenty four Championships, as Spain gets three goals in the

1998
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 10: first half to beat Croacht to three. Nail Switzerland beats

1999
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 10: Hungary three to one. In Italy over Albania two to one.

2000
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 10: In Major League Baseball, Yoshi Noble Yamamoto leading after two

2001
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 10: innings tonight in his start for the Dodgers as he

2002
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 10: had to deal with triceups tightness and I didn't get

2003
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 10: any better four Los Angeles, as the Royals end up

2004
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 10: winning this one seven to two. The Astros fall of

2005
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 10: the Tigers thirteen to five. Is justin Verlanders, scratched from

2006
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 10: his start because of a sore neck, comes over the

2007
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 10: Cardinals five to one, as showda Imanaga toss seven innings,

2008
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 10: so he's now seven and one with an ELRA of

2009
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 10: one point eighty nine. The Mariners over the Rangers seventy five.

2010
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 10: Mets make it four wins in a row beating the

2011
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,879
Speaker 10: Padres five to one, and the Orioles beat the Phillies

2012
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 10: six to the game between the Twins and Athletics was

2013
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 10: rained out. Back to Bernie all.

2014
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 3: Right, thanks chef good stuff. Keep those vocal cords warm.

2015
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 2: You and Brion Markleby rallying at the top of the hour,

2016
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 2: we get a little brand new food.

2017
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 3: With my name, all right.

2018
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 2: So the WNBA, when I heard they were gonna they

2019
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 2: poison lose fifty million this year, that caught my eye.

2020
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 2: Part of that is the players have been wanting to

2021
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 2: fly charter. Now that's going to coss an extra twenty

2022
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 2: five million this year. This is all subsidized by the NBA.

2023
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 2: The has massive war chest, okay, and they've been able

2024
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 2: to pay for the WNBA for twenty seven years.

2025
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 3: Now.

2026
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 2: With the league getting more popular, seemingly, why isn't it changing. Well,

2027
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 2: it turns out that even though the WNBAS is stained

2028
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 2: and subsidized by the NBA, the NBA is taking their

2029
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, they're wet in their beak as well. The

2030
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 2: NBA apparently receives about forty percent of WNBA revenue, and

2031
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 2: some of the outside investors claim that the WNBA has

2032
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 2: raised seventy five million from Nike and the NBA owners

2033
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 2: and the NBA itself and many are getting about twenty

2034
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: percent of that, And so that leaves the players of

2035
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 2: the WNBA.

2036
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 3: With about forty percent of its own revenue.

2037
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 2: So that kind of changes the conversation a little bit

2038
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 2: in terms of, perhaps that league is capable of making money,

2039
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 2: and you know, if they continue to grow and they

2040
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 2: perhaps the NBA who's still in the midst of their

2041
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 2: media right. So that's why you hear this old Charles

2042
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:03,759
Speaker 2: barklay thing. Maybe there could be a situation where the

2043
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 2: NBA negotiates with one of its stakeholder partners that you

2044
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: have to also broadcast x amount of number of NBA

2045
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 2: WNBA games at this price to sustain your good standing

2046
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 2: with the NBA.

2047
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 3: Just the thought. We'll see, all right.

2048
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,839
Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is the league is growing,

2049
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 2: no doubt, and I think a new media rights deal,

2050
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:33,480
Speaker 2: coupled with the interest that's been rising, could help WNBA

2051
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: revenue in the future. According to the Washington Post, they

2052
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 2: believe that the revenue could increase from sixty million to

2053
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: perhaps his high as two hundred million. Seems reasonable, why not?

2054
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're if your numbers, I mean I

2055
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 2: gave you some pretty gaudy numbers a minute ago in

2056
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 2: terms of, you know, the percentages that viewership is up

2057
01:46:55,840 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 2: and the percentages that you know the various shun't ice

2058
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 2: sales up eight hundred percent, lead pass description three hundred percent.

2059
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 3: Those are pretty good numbers.

2060
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, Caitlin Clark will get only

2061
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,759
Speaker 2: better and you'll see other rookies like Angel Rees continue

2062
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 2: to come to the forefront in terms of being the

2063
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 2: name recognition.

2064
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 3: And the rivalry forming. So let's see what happens.

2065
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't know you, you make no guarantees, but when

2066
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 2: you hear it that the WNBA is going to lose

2067
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 2: fifty million this year, try to put a little context

2068
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 2: on it, and hopefully maybe that's what I did, at

2069
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 2: least just a little bit. Speaking of context, why didn't

2070
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 2: the Jets excuse Aaron Rodgers' mini caap absence? Well, there's

2071
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 2: some theories. We'll dance around it because no one's talking. Really,

2072
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 2: there are a couple of NFL insiders that have intimated

2073
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 2: what went on there. I'll share that. Coming up, I'm

2074
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 2: Bernie Fradder. We're coming to live from Las Vegas, Fox

2075
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, DIIREC dot Com Studios.

2076
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:51,759
Speaker 3: Keep it locked.

2077
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2078
01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports radio.

2079
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 2: We are coming to live from thee Tarek dot Com

2080
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas. Coming up top of the hour,

2081
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 2: Dan Sensation sweep of the nation. What kind of brand

2082
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 2: new fool you followed by what my name?

2083
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 3: Hey?

2084
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: Real quickly before I get into the Aaron Rodgers stuff

2085
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 2: happening around the Jets, it's just on canny, just uncanny,

2086
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 2: real quickly, Kevin Wyre at the Chef Rogers had the

2087
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 2: unfortunate incident happened last year after four plays, they're gonna

2088
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 2: teed up again this year. Is this Jets experiment with

2089
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers gonna work? Meaning to they at least get

2090
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:38,480
Speaker 2: to the playoffs?

2091
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 10: Well, it's gonna depend on how much rust Aaron Rodgers

2092
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 10: does have after not playing four year. In the fact

2093
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 10: he's what with thirty nine years old, forty forty entering

2094
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 10: this season, and forty is not a good barometer for quarterbacks.

2095
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 10: Tom Brady of course being the exception, but forty seems

2096
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 10: to be the agent what you see a major drop

2097
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 10: off in a performance. So I think they could have

2098
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 10: gotten one, maybe two good seasons out of him. But

2099
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 10: the fact that he tore his achilles and had to

2100
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,440
Speaker 10: miss all that time and miss all of that practicing

2101
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 10: game action, I think is gonna significantly set him back.

2102
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 10: So I do think the Jets can make the playoffs,

2103
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 10: just because I mean, who do they really have in

2104
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 10: their division? I mean, you got Miami, you got the Bills,

2105
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 10: but of course who's Josh Allen gonna throw to? And

2106
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 10: then of course you've got the Patriots. I mean what

2107
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 10: are they gonna do? So I think the Jets do

2108
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 10: have a shot at a playoff spot if Aaron Rodgers

2109
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 10: is healthy and can at least resemble some of the

2110
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 10: form he had. But I don't think it's gonna be

2111
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 10: what Jets fans have been hoping for when they signed Hup.

2112
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 3: It's just a bad optic all the way around. Brie.

2113
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?

2114
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I kind of I definitely agree with Kevin just

2115
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 9: kind of everything he said.

2116
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 2: So as long as Aaron Rodgers is healthy, you think

2117
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: they'll overcome all of the other side show aspects of

2118
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers Jets tens, as long.

2119
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 9: As he agrees to stay out of it too and

2120
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 9: doesn't try to make it like a media spectacle. And

2121
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 9: I mean, this isn't a good start. I don't think

2122
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 9: just everything kind of going on. It doesn't seem like

2123
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 9: it's going to be a successful season, like everybody's all

2124
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 9: the eyes are going to be on them obviously.

2125
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's sure. That's for sure. It already is.

2126
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:20,799
Speaker 2: And he hasn't really played a full game exactly, Mark Ramsey,

2127
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 2: do you care to appine on this.

2128
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 8: I think we'll be able to tell in the first

2129
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 8: four games whether the whole team can get on the

2130
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 8: same page and work together, play together both sides of

2131
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 8: the ball, doing what needs needed to be done to

2132
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 8: first be a team and get things done.

2133
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 10: And you know, whether Rogers has it together.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we'll be able to tell by the first

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01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 8: four games whether he has the ability to live up

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Speaker 8: to everybody's hopes and dreams.

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01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: I think he's got the ability, But the question is

2138
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: the health is always going to be a concern. And

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01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 2: the other thing too, of course, is I am not

2140
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 2: enamored anymore with the sideshow aspects of the whole Aaron

2141
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers act.

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01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 3: I'm just not.

2143
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 2: He comes up just since coming over to the Jets,

2144
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 2: he was dating Chalene Woodley for a while.

2145
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened there. I don't care.

2146
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 2: Then he had the Hyauasca deal and the Dark Retreat deal.

2147
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 3: And if it's not one thing, it's another.

2148
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 2: And now we come to find out this is headline

2149
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 2: material was updated as recently as Friday, that obviously Aaron

2150
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 2: Rodgers is not attending any of the mini camp workouts

2151
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:39,759
Speaker 2: which are mandatory. However, we find you know, not only

2152
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 2: is that in and of itself a look that's going

2153
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 2: to raise eyeballs and some head scratching and light of

2154
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 2: the fact what happened last year, you think it'd be

2155
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 2: all business. You gotta recovery. I mean, they got to

2156
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 2: the Jets bank their future on this guy. And we

2157
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 2: find out, I think the press conf and is handled

2158
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 2: by Robert Salo was really kind of clunky. We find

2159
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 2: out that the apsence was not excused. Okay, so what's

2160
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 2: going on here? This book's missing a chapter. What is

2161
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 2: going on? And now there are multiple members of people

2162
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 2: surrounding the NFL that are questioning why the New York

2163
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 2: Jets didn't simply say they could excuse eron Aaron Rodgers

2164
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 2: from attending the two day mandatory mini campus last week,

2165
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 2: since apparently the Jets knew ahead of time he'd be

2166
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 2: away from the team.

2167
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 3: Now. Albert Breer, who's as big as.

2168
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 2: An insider as you'll find anywhere, he was on the

2169
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen Show lately, and here's what he said.

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 3: Quote.

2171
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: The best I can answer right now is that I

2172
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 2: feel said about that he's somewhere that they cannot excuse

2173
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 2: and maintain credibility with the rest of the locker room. Well,

2174
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,679
Speaker 2: that makes it even more cryptic. Where the hell could

2175
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 2: he be? You know, he's in some sex slave dungeon somewhere.

2176
01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 2: What are we doing here now? They say it would

2177
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 2: not be unexpected to be just kind of an out

2178
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 2: of the left field thing for him in terms of

2179
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 2: his unspecified whereabouts. But I think that statement only makes

2180
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 2: it worse. And look, Aaron Rodgers, he's got a body

2181
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 2: of work, he's got a history, Okay, he kind of

2182
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 2: likes getting involved in these very off the beaten track

2183
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 2: trips and these unique excursions during the off seasons and

2184
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 2: especially heading into a season. And a Colin Coward earlier

2185
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 2: this week said he was told that Rogers was quote

2186
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 2: on vacation overseas.

2187
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 3: That's pretty broad, all right.

2188
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,799
Speaker 2: Dina Rassini of The Athletic, who's was plugged in as anybody,

2189
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 2: also mentioned on Thursday that Rogers was quote taking a

2190
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 2: vacation overseas and didn't want to reschedule it around the Jets' practices. Okay,

2191
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 2: so they couldn't have, at least for purposes of optics

2192
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 2: said this was excused the minute you heard the word unexcused.

2193
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 2: What a different dynamic on this in my opinion. Now

2194
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 2: the Jets apparently are going to find Aaron Rodgers for

2195
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 2: missing mini camp, even though he has had a couple

2196
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:16,839
Speaker 2: players Sauce Gardner and another cornerback DJ Reed, they've defended

2197
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers saying that quote they communicated to him they

2198
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to excuse him for that, and that's

2199
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 2: how you maintain credibility with your locker room. But a

2200
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 2: couple of players defended him. But then I guess the

2201
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 2: other issue was accorned to galber Berry. You can't do

2202
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: something for one person that you wouldn't do for other

2203
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 2: stars of the team or guys down the roster, right,

2204
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: And that's where you really create the problem, and you

2205
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 2: have disparate treatment for players. And I think the bigger

2206
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: thing here too, is it the question for me, if

2207
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 2: I could ask Robert Sala, one question is why you

2208
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 2: just put the story to rest about a month ago

2209
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 2: when you confirm that the team had Ota, but Rogers

2210
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 2: was going to be elsewhere the second full week of June.

2211
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 2: Because it's been planned for a long time. There's nothing

2212
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 2: to see here, move along, and now all of a sudden,

2213
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 2: there's all this crazy media coverage. The Jets have put

2214
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 2: this spotlight on themselves in the pejorative for all the

2215
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 2: long reasons, and it feels like this could have been avoided.

2216
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 2: Reporters have basically ripped the Jets for what these are

2217
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 2: considered to be now self inflicted wounds because the Jets

2218
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 2: could have handled this better. Right after it was learned

2219
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers had planned this trip long before the

2220
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 2: Mini captates were revealed, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk

2221
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 2: went on to question why the club just didn't hold

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01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 2: Mini caap the first week of June or just simply

2223
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 2: excuse him. Okay, Now, that's the part to me that

2224
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 2: makes this story skid across the street like a drunk

2225
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: crossing in icy street because of the way it was handled.

2226
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 3: There's the event itself and then the way the Jets

2227
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 3: handle it. So let's go back around the room. Let's

2228
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 3: start with you shifted.

2229
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: Did Jets make this worse by the way they're communicating

2230
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 2: it to the media, so you got the event itself, Rogers,

2231
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 2: missus camp, he's got something overseas. It's been planned, but

2232
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 2: it's not excuse. Did they Jets make it worse by

2233
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 2: the way they're handling it?

2234
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think I don't like the idea

2235
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 10: of him just taking off and missing stuff and not,

2236
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 10: you know, rescheduling his foreign trip that he's taking to

2237
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 10: be there. I think that sets a bad precedent, sets

2238
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 10: a bad example for the younger players on the team.

2239
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 10: And I mean if he wasn't Aaron Rodgers, who of

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01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 10: course probably be a Hall of Fame quarterback when he retires,

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01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 10: But if he wasn't the Hall of Fame quarterback, I

2242
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 10: think the team would be coming down on him for

2243
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 10: those antics in the way they kind of are.

2244
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 3: By saying, it's an excuse. I got to go. I

2245
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 3: want to make sure I get to everybody here. Breed.

2246
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 3: Did the Jets botch this by the way.

2247
01:56:56,680 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 9: They handle it, they definitely did. I think it's something

2248
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 9: they could have said, Hey, we're just going to handle

2249
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 9: this in house. He's he's missing time for things that

2250
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 9: we're discussing, we're going to keep in house.

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01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion, all right, And uh, Mark Ramsey,

2252
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 2: your thoughts and on how their Jets handle this.

2253
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 8: I guess they're just dealing with Aaron the way they

2254
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 8: always deal with there, and what he wants to do

2255
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,839
Speaker 8: doesn't necessarily go with how they want to conduct business.

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01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 8: So just deal with it and talk as less as possible.

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01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 8: Just let him do it on.

2258
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 10: You.

2259
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 2: You feel there is some sort of disconnect there, but

2260
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 2: he's a whole of famer. They're trying to catch lightning

2261
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 2: in a bottle and see if they get one more

2262
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 2: out of them. And the Jets can, you know, get

2263
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl and erase with Joe, not erase

2264
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 2: but you know the old Joe Namath super Bowl three situation.

2265
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 8: Just deal with things as they come and just move

2266
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:49,839
Speaker 8: on as quickly as possible.

2267
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 3: But they don't. But they don't do that. They don't

2268
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 3: do that. I mean, they could have moved.

2269
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 2: It's it's awkward, it's weird, it's stupid, it's almost bothersome.

2270
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 2: And I'm not sticking off for Aaron Rodgers. But here's

2271
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 2: the deal. All they had to do was make it

2272
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 2: so that. Okay, this is excused. It's not our first choice,

2273
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 2: but move on. There's nothing to see here. And as

2274
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 2: it's been brought up, apparently this trip was planned a

2275
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 2: long time ago. So why did they just move the

2276
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 2: mini camp dates. They could have done that. Look, they

2277
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 2: acquired Aaron Rodgers. They gave up a lot to get him.

2278
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 2: And if Aaron Rodgers doesn't play this whole season, this

2279
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 2: thing's just going to be an abject disaster. And I

2280
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 2: think they'll move on this. This will go down with

2281
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 2: one of the great botches of all time coming up?

2282
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01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,840
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01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:34,960
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01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,360
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01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 2: oily seed, frankly, around the world, well, people are people.

2303
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 2: They engage in activities. Some are questionable, some are nefarious,

2304
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 2: some are innocuous.

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01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 3: As soon as they get.

2306
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Speaker 2: Home and look those words up, here's the bottom line.

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01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 2: Whatever these behaviors are, and sometimes they're illegal, they can

2308
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 2: land you in jail.

2309
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes you're just silly.

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01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:55,400
Speaker 2: But no matter what the event is, no matter what

2311
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,879
Speaker 2: your action is, no matter what has transpired the behavior,

2312
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 2: it always leaves us scratching our head and asking ourselves,

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02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 2: what kind of.

2314
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 12: Brand new fool are you?

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02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 10: So?

2316
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you so?

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02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 2: Last week we managed to skip Florida as a destination,

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02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 2: but Florida is back in the news, we bring you

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02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 2: to Velucia County, Florida, and we introduce you to one

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02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 2: mister Dewey Smith, thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: Quite a body of work.

2322
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 2: He stole some wallets, some credit cards, a couple of cars,

2323
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 2: a couple of guns taken from two vehicles, went on

2324
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 2: quite a spree. But you're not gonna believe what did

2325
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 2: him in. And it has something to do with food.

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Speaker 3: No, not taco bell. Maybe we'll do that next week,

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02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 3: but hold that thought. Okay.

2328
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 2: So, according to the Sheriff's office, a bunch of breakings

2329
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 2: were reported very early in the morning on Jefferson Avenue

2330
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 2: somewhere wherever they hell of Lucia County is okay, but

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02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 2: that's not the point. So investigators happened upon the scene,

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02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 2: and they searched a car, and they found that the

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02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 2: center glove box and council had been rummaged and a

2334
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 2: victim's wallet was missing. Deputies then searched other situations and

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02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 2: they started to interview people, and this woman said that

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02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 2: she told the cops that this mister Smith, who was

2337
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 2: the acquaintance of a woman who'd stopped by the night earlier,

2338
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 2: asking if she knew anybody that wanted to buy a gun.

2339
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,000
Speaker 2: They asked her to call a number and see what

2340
02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 2: the balance was in a gift car, but she refused.

2341
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 3: Things started to get weird, so people started to call

2342
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 3: the cops.

2343
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, the cops showed up and they started to interview

2344
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:51,120
Speaker 2: people in homes, and they started to look in the cars,

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02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 2: and they started to.

2346
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 3: Do more of a forensic investigation. And what did they see.

2347
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 3: They see a.

2348
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 2: Of red sauce and a pizza box and that led

2349
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 2: to mister Smith. Didn't popped, deputies said they found what

2350
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 2: appeared to be marinera on the interior of a car door.

2351
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 3: Now a few houses down the road.

2352
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:18,839
Speaker 2: As part of the investigation, they found an empty pizza

2353
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 2: box near another car that had been broken into, allegedly

2354
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 2: by Smith. That's what the records show. An investigator said.

2355
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 2: A nine millimeter handgun and a concealed weapons permit were

2356
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 2: also taken from the vehicle, and as the deputies continued

2357
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 2: to canvas the neighborhood, a woman who spoke with the

2358
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 2: cops said that Smith had stopped by earlier in the

2359
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 2: night and she saw him I think breaking into a

2360
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 2: car and there was a pizza box, so maybe mister

2361
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 2: Smith helped himself out to some pizza. At the end

2362
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:53,160
Speaker 2: of the day, mister Smith faces charges of arm burglary

2363
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 2: of a conveyance, burglary of a conveyance, four counts of

2364
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 2: fraudulent use of credit cards, grand theft of a firearm,

2365
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,360
Speaker 2: possession of a firearm by a convicted felon theft, and

2366
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 2: dealing in stolen property. Other than that, not much happened

2367
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 2: for mister Smith. But how did he get popped? All

2368
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 2: because of a little smear of Marinara.

2369
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 3: Sauce on a door?

2370
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 2: Because well, you know, while you're involved in the crime

2371
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 2: scre you gotta have a little notch. You gotta have

2372
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 2: a little nourishment, right, So mister Smith helped himself to

2373
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:26,400
Speaker 2: some pizza while committing a series of crimes, which also

2374
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,520
Speaker 2: leads us to scratch our heads and asking why, mister

2375
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 2: Smith of Lucia, Florida.

2376
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,360
Speaker 3: What kind of brand new fool are you?

2377
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 2: Okay, chef, you were off last week, so why don't

2378
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 2: you dive back into the fray?

2379
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 3: What have you got forced tonight? You're a veter at

2380
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 3: this game, all right.

2381
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 10: So we go to New del Heat, India, where.

2382
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 3: Oh wow, criminals might be at first.

2383
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,879
Speaker 10: He had been on the run for around ten years

2384
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 10: from police. He was facing charges involving snatching, theft, possession

2385
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 10: of illegal arms, and bootlegging at several police stations in

2386
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 10: the Dell the area. So he had evaded police for

2387
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 10: a decade. So a constable, a mail constable at the

2388
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,880
Speaker 10: New Delhi Police Department, decided to come up with a

2389
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:13,640
Speaker 10: creative solution to lureum out of hiding. He posed as

2390
02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 10: a woman on Instagram. So he created a fake Instagram

2391
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:21,839
Speaker 10: handled to lure forty five year old He's just called Bunty.

2392
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 10: So Buntie is his name. The accused of criminal and

2393
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 10: the constable created the account after several attempts by police

2394
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,680
Speaker 10: to get him, so they received a tip off that

2395
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:37,440
Speaker 10: he was hiding in a place called Indira Vicas Colony

2396
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,320
Speaker 10: that they still couldn't exactly find him. But when they

2397
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:42,680
Speaker 10: went to that town, they noted they went on social

2398
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 10: media and saw that he had an Instagram account. So

2399
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:48,440
Speaker 10: they've decided to create a fake Instagram handle with a

2400
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 10: woman and that's a good drop right there anyway. Anyway,

2401
02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 10: So he created the fake Instagram handle of a woman

2402
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 10: and he started chatting with Bunty and he was eager

2403
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 10: to befriend the fake Instagram profile, so he agreed to

2404
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 10: meet with the woman at a metro station, where he

2405
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 10: was properly arrested after he was found. So that brings

2406
02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 10: a new definition to the term horny jail. So bunty

2407
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 10: in New Delhi, India, what kind of brand new fool

2408
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 10: are you?

2409
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 3: Wow? That's a word solid in the half.

2410
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 2: And I don't think we've ever ventured off to India

2411
02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 2: for any of our brand new fools. All right, So

2412
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 2: the double points there, chef for taking us to India.

2413
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 2: All right, Breen, you joined us last week as part

2414
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 2: of the fray, did a great job.

2415
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:41,040
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts tonight on what kind of brand

2416
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 3: new fool?

2417
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,480
Speaker 9: Okay, so we're going to head over to New Jersey

2418
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 9: and instead of deadliest catch, we got the easiest catch.

2419
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 9: Sayima Johnson, aged twenty seven, a former postal service worker

2420
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 9: from Jersey City, was on the run for fraud in

2421
02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 9: Pennsylvania when she applied to work at an New Jersey

2422
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:04,520
Speaker 9: sheriff's office. Now it wasn't for something under the radar

2423
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 9: like a janitor or like a receptionist. She applied to

2424
02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 9: be a security guard like if I were you, if

2425
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:12,560
Speaker 9: I was in trouble with the law, the last place

2426
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 9: I would apply to work would be like a law

2427
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 9: enforcement agency, where I think background checks would be required.

2428
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 9: I don't know that's right, common sence. I'm not sure.

2429
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 9: She was called into the station for a job interview,

2430
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 9: or so she thought, and when she arrived she was

2431
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 9: immediately arrested. So not only was she on the run

2432
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 9: for fraud charges, she was also wanted for ten bench

2433
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:38,879
Speaker 9: warrants for failure to appear in court on traffic charges.

2434
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 9: When Johnson was brought into custody, they also found stolen

2435
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 9: credit cards, so credit card charge theft charges were added

2436
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 9: to the mixed It's like, Ema Johnson, what kind of

2437
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 9: brand newfall are you?

2438
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 3: Good stuff? All right?

2439
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 2: Good group all the way around tonight, New Jersey to

2440
02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 2: New Delhi, India to Florida. These folks, perhaps someday can

2441
02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:04,320
Speaker 2: put their heads together make a rock pile, but always

2442
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 2: leaves good father fodder. Try that to get in English,

2443
02:07:09,080 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 2: good fodder fodder for our show. All right, great job.

2444
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:17,200
Speaker 2: Of course, That allows us now to segue into our

2445
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:21,840
Speaker 2: second favorite bit that we lovingly refer to as what

2446
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:22,440
Speaker 2: my name?

2447
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,160
Speaker 3: And here we go.

2448
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 2: All right, I'm the only Major League Baseball pitcher in

2449
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:36,880
Speaker 2: history to actually throw a no hitter at coors Field.

2450
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 2: The chef Kevin Wyre, what my name.

2451
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 10: The only pitcher to throw no hitter a crusher at all.

2452
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 10: I know this one, Hideo Nomo.

2453
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 3: Look at that right out of the gates. I think

2454
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 3: last week it was three Mark and Mark and I

2455
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 3: forget if Shay was with us. You guys went like

2456
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:54,040
Speaker 3: eleven and straight.

2457
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 10: I remember Vin Scully. Vin Scully said, Hideo Nomo doing

2458
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 10: what they said could not be done.

2459
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, good stuff. Okay, let's flip to the NBA.

2460
02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm the only NBA head coach in the history of

2461
02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 2: the NBA. That's the department of redundancy department. I'm the

2462
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 2: only NBA head coach in the history of the NBA

2463
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:19,440
Speaker 2: to be swept twice in the NBA finals. Bri What

2464
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 2: my name?

2465
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 3: Phil Jackson?

2466
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:29,919
Speaker 2: You're not that far off, but it's not Phil Jackson.

2467
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:34,360
Speaker 2: Good effort getting the name out. I'm the only NBA

2468
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 2: head coach to be ever swept twice in the NBA Finals.

2469
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2470
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 10: Uh, Larry Brown?

2471
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:45,080
Speaker 3: Not Larry Brown?

2472
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:49,400
Speaker 2: All right, I'm the only NBA head coach to be

2473
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 2: swept twice in the finals.

2474
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 3: The chef what my name?

2475
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 10: Byron Scott?

2476
02:08:56,200 --> 02:09:00,080
Speaker 2: Not you're close you and b right, No, it was

2477
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 2: it was actually pat Riley.

2478
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 3: Pat Riley.

2479
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 2: The nineteen eighty three Philadelphia seventy six ers beat the

2480
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 2: Lakers and four, and then the eighty nine Pistons beat

2481
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 2: the Lakers and four. But Byron Scott was hurt and

2482
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 2: couldn't play, and Magic got hurt game two, so it

2483
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:14,320
Speaker 2: really was kind of moot.

2484
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 3: But it was actually pat Riley. All right, I am

2485
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:19,360
Speaker 3: the only.

2486
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 2: NBA player in history to be a NBA Finals MVP,

2487
02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 2: even though my team lost the series, bri What my name?

2488
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 10: Jerry West?

2489
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:29,680
Speaker 3: Good job?

2490
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 2: Eight plus see I do one of these a show.

2491
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:34,040
Speaker 2: I mentioned it earlier in the show, but you may have.

2492
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 3: Already known it already.

2493
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 2: All right, all right, people, Well as you saw last Wednesday,

2494
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:47,800
Speaker 2: sixty thousand people paid thirty six dollars a piece Wednesday

2495
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:50,680
Speaker 2: night to honor Tom Brady. But while they were there,

2496
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:54,440
Speaker 2: they gave me a full two minute standing ovation. Mark Ramsey,

2497
02:09:54,440 --> 02:09:55,240
Speaker 2: what my name.

2498
02:09:57,800 --> 02:09:58,040
Speaker 10: Was it?

2499
02:09:58,080 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 8: His former owner?

2500
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 10: Mister, No, his former owner, not.

2501
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:06,000
Speaker 3: The former owner.

2502
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:09,080
Speaker 2: You can get a Bob Kraft, right, they want to

2503
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 2: lead the witness, all right. Sixty thousand people paid thirty

2504
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 2: six dollars a ticket last Wednesday night to honor Tom Brady.

2505
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:19,160
Speaker 2: But while they were there, they gave me a full

2506
02:10:19,280 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 2: two minutes standing ovation, Chef, what my name?

2507
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:30,560
Speaker 10: Two minutes standing ovation of maybe even longer Bill Belichick.

2508
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 3: It is, in fact Bill Belichick, which begs the question.

2509
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 2: Were they giving him a standing ovation because he won

2510
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 2: all those Super Bowls, including two of the New York

2511
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 2: Giants as a defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells. Or they gave

2512
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 2: him a standing ovation because he's dating a chick who's

2513
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 2: twenty four. Talk amongst yourselves, anybody any thoughts on that? Okay,

2514
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 2: we move along, We move along, all right. In the

2515
02:11:03,400 --> 02:11:07,720
Speaker 2: history of the NBA Finals, I have had more forty

2516
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 2: point games than anybody else, more thirty point games than

2517
02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:13,320
Speaker 2: anybody else.

2518
02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:15,879
Speaker 3: Bre What my name.

2519
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:19,520
Speaker 9: I don't want to say is Jerry West again?

2520
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 3: It is Jerry West again. I sometimes do this during

2521
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 3: the shows too, where i'll, you know, throw that name up.

2522
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want Jerry West to get his props. He

2523
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:32,800
Speaker 2: was such an elegant man, so yeah, he had more

2524
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 2: forty point games in the history of the NBA Finals

2525
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 2: than anybody, more thirty point games than anybody, and even

2526
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 2: had a fifty point game too, and there's only been

2527
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 2: a couple of people that have actually done that. All right,

2528
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 2: good job, all right, we're gonna switch gears because you

2529
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 2: guys are doing so good. We'll see if we attended

2530
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,720
Speaker 2: our Civics class in high school.

2531
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 3: On Mount Rushmore.

2532
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm the only president who is wearing glasses, Mark Ramsey,

2533
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:57,440
Speaker 2: what my name.

2534
02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:00,520
Speaker 8: Was the belt?

2535
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 3: Look at you? All right, you guys are just showing off. Now,

2536
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 3: that's just outstanding.

2537
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:16,400
Speaker 2: Recently, at an auction, my game warn NFL pants for

2538
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 2: the last game I ever played in were sold for

2539
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:22,640
Speaker 2: eighty nine thousand dollars.

2540
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 3: Chef.

2541
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:25,920
Speaker 10: What my name, Tom Brady?

2542
02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:36,240
Speaker 2: It is Tom Brady? Outstanding, just outstanding by everybody. All Right,

2543
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna flip the golf now. Just this past two weeks,

2544
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 2: I won my fifth PGA tournament. I'm the first guy

2545
02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 2: to win five PGA tournaments before July since two thousand.

2546
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 2: What my name, bre what my name?

2547
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:02,520
Speaker 9: Scottie Shuffler.

2548
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 3: It's Scotty Seffler. I'm proud of you guys.

2549
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 7: Man.

2550
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm just proud of you, guys.

2551
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know if that's like a father's

2552
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:13,560
Speaker 9: day thing, because they just had a kid like a

2553
02:13:13,600 --> 02:13:15,280
Speaker 9: month ago, so I didn't know if that was like

2554
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:16,240
Speaker 9: a father's day theet.

2555
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:19,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how you got the answer, you got

2556
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:25,000
Speaker 2: the answer, okay, all right, Well along those lines, I'm

2557
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 2: actually the last golfer to win five PGA tournaments before July.

2558
02:13:31,600 --> 02:13:32,560
Speaker 3: Mark Ramsey, what my.

2559
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:35,959
Speaker 10: Name Zander Shoffley.

2560
02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 3: That's excellent. It's not him, but boy, a plus for

2561
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:40,280
Speaker 3: the effort there.

2562
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:43,400
Speaker 2: Nicely done, Mark, I'm the last golfer to win five

2563
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:45,160
Speaker 2: PGA tournaments before July.

2564
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Speaker 3: This chef, Kevin Wire, what my name?

2565
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Speaker 10: Tiger Woods?

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Speaker 3: It is, in fact Tiger Woods. You guys, I'm proud

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Speaker 3: of you.

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Speaker 2: He just completely kicked what and I think it's outstanding

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Speaker 2: what you did.

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Speaker 3: And all right, you do. I have to do a

2571
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Speaker 3: hockey one tonight now to get to you know, to

2572
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Speaker 3: try to eat it.

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Speaker 9: I think I don't think Kevin I would like that,

2574
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Speaker 9: but you if you want to. It's your show.

2575
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Speaker 3: Record here. I don't know, man, Well, nothing, nothing's going

2576
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Speaker 3: to ruin your record.

2577
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to see if we can see if

2578
02:14:18,200 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 2: we can switch things up here. All right, this is

2579
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Speaker 2: actually a fairly easy one. In the history of the

2580
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 2: National Hockey League, I've had more fights than any other player,

2581
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Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, What my name?

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Speaker 8: Uh, it's not Stan Makeda.

2583
02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 2: Stan mkeedah of the former center of the Chicago Blackhawks.

2584
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Speaker 2: Of of course Stan Mkeda donuts fame right in the

2585
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Speaker 2: movie with Mike Myers. All Right, in the history of

2586
02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:50,560
Speaker 2: the National Hockey League, I've had more fights than any

2587
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:52,440
Speaker 2: other player in my career.

2588
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Speaker 3: Bri what my name?

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Speaker 9: You did this a few weeks ago, and I don't remember.

2590
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Speaker 9: I think I said Tamo Salon And I don't think that's.

2591
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Speaker 2: It's not right, but it kind of. It's kind of

2592
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Speaker 2: the ViBe's got that kind of name's got that kind

2593
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:08,360
Speaker 2: of vibe. All Right, we'll see if the chef can

2594
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Speaker 2: get it. In the answer of the National Hockey Like,

2595
02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:12,000
Speaker 2: I've had more fights than any other player.

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02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 3: What my name?

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Speaker 10: I know they named a unique hat trick after Gordy,

2598
02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:20,960
Speaker 10: how so I'm gonna guess that just because I mean,

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Speaker 10: why did they name it after him if he didn't

2600
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Speaker 10: find it well?

2601
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 2: The Gordi Hall hat trick, which he actually debunked was

2602
02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:28,600
Speaker 2: and he'd get score a goal, get an assist, and

2603
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Speaker 2: have a fight in the same game, which Gordi House says,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they were. You're right, that's an

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Speaker 2: old folk tale I've met, Gordy, he said, I don't

2606
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Speaker 2: know if that's true. It's actually a guy by the

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Speaker 2: name of ty Domy. He had like three hundred and

2608
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Speaker 2: thirty four fights in his career, and he was like

2609
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:43,760
Speaker 2: his hands were like a steam shovel. He just kept going,

2610
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Speaker 2: all right, great job by everybody all the way around

2611
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:51,280
Speaker 2: on brand new fool and certainly on what my name

2612
02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:55,080
Speaker 2: an extremely heady crew here. I'm gonna have to get

2613
02:15:55,120 --> 02:15:57,400
Speaker 2: up Mondy late in the afternoon to pull one over

2614
02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:59,120
Speaker 2: on you guys. I'm gonna have to maybe start hitting

2615
02:15:59,120 --> 02:16:02,000
Speaker 2: the local librariy or something, or the library or something

2616
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:04,760
Speaker 2: like that too. I can so I can. You know,

2617
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Hey, you know I'm gonna

2618
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:10,640
Speaker 2: dive into this heavily next week as to why Dan

2619
02:16:10,760 --> 02:16:17,120
Speaker 2: Hurley staying in college basketball is really good for college basketball.

2620
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 2: Maybe not so good for the Lakers, but really good

2621
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Speaker 2: for college basketball.

2622
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Speaker 3: I'll explain Kevin Up. I'm gonna tease it. Next week,

2623
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get into it a lot more heavily. I'm

2624
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Speaker 3: Bernie Fraddle.

2625
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Speaker 2: We're coming toy line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio tirect dot com studios. Keep it locked right here.

2627
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2628
02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 2: We're back on the Bernie Frederick Show, Fox Sports Radio.

2629
02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:49,680
Speaker 2: Come to your life from the tyrack dot com studios

2630
02:16:49,720 --> 02:16:55,040
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Outstanding job by the crew, Brie Mark,

2631
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:58,520
Speaker 2: the chef, Kevin Wirt on what kind of brand new

2632
02:16:58,520 --> 02:17:02,320
Speaker 2: fool you are and what my name? We move on,

2633
02:17:02,600 --> 02:17:05,720
Speaker 2: as are the Lakers and their coaching search because Bobby Hurley.

2634
02:17:06,400 --> 02:17:08,959
Speaker 2: I did it again. I can't believe it. Danny Hurley

2635
02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 2: turned them down. Bobby of course is his older brother,

2636
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:17,000
Speaker 2: all right, So, as I mentioned, and I'm gonna get

2637
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:21,520
Speaker 2: into this more heavily next week, Bob, Danny Hurley turned

2638
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:24,920
Speaker 2: down the Lakers, which I believed he would all along.

2639
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:29,040
Speaker 2: And this is going to turn out to be I

2640
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Speaker 2: think a boon for college basketball. I think the good

2641
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 2: news has yet to be written because there are key

2642
02:17:34,480 --> 02:17:36,840
Speaker 2: storylines that will be heading into the season. And you

2643
02:17:36,920 --> 02:17:38,840
Speaker 2: all know that the future always has a way of

2644
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:42,240
Speaker 2: arriving ahead of schedule. We're two weeks from July, and

2645
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:46,680
Speaker 2: then July leads him to August, September, October, then camp's open, November,

2646
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:49,680
Speaker 2: there's game, so pretty soon you'll be talking about Danny

2647
02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 2: Hurley and the Yukon Huskies and their quest to three peet,

2648
02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:54,240
Speaker 2: which no one's done since John Wooden.

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02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 3: But it's beyond that.

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Speaker 2: In many ways, Danny Hurley has been really the perfect

2651
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:03,400
Speaker 2: frontman for college basketball, and particularly this modern version of

2652
02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:06,160
Speaker 2: college basketball where everything's under the white hot spotlight of

2653
02:18:06,200 --> 02:18:10,240
Speaker 2: the media. He has a big personality, He's got big

2654
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:15,080
Speaker 2: shoulders to carry this load. He's become kind of a

2655
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:18,680
Speaker 2: captivating figure because as you watch his demeanor on the sideline,

2656
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:21,000
Speaker 2: he can look like a crazy man who puts on

2657
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 2: a show, but he's really not a crazy man. Now

2658
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:25,120
Speaker 2: he can morph into that when he works the refs

2659
02:18:25,480 --> 02:18:27,840
Speaker 2: or every now and then he will, you know, work

2660
02:18:27,879 --> 02:18:31,039
Speaker 2: one of his players over. But he's also a very

2661
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:34,400
Speaker 2: thoughtful guy, a very introspective guy. He's very bright. He's

2662
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:38,600
Speaker 2: he didn't get to where he's at by accident. But

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02:18:38,720 --> 02:18:40,520
Speaker 2: here's where I'm going, Well, this is why this is

2664
02:18:40,520 --> 02:18:43,840
Speaker 2: so good. For college basketball, because if you've noticed, college

2665
02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:46,560
Speaker 2: sports right now are going through a real transition that's

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02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:49,680
Speaker 2: not particularly pleasant. So when you try to construct a

2667
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:54,960
Speaker 2: roster with the transfer Portland nil, how do you do

2668
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:59,280
Speaker 2: that as seamlessly as Danny Hurley's done it. He's not

2669
02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:02,080
Speaker 2: only creating a whole better than the sum of its parts.

2670
02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:04,920
Speaker 2: He'll take a freshman who's elite and mesh him with

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02:19:04,959 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 2: a top transfer and other multi year rotation players who've

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02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:11,879
Speaker 2: been on their roster and NBA players who are about

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02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:13,760
Speaker 2: to be drafted, and he puts them all together in

2674
02:19:13,800 --> 02:19:16,000
Speaker 2: a blender. And he still emphasizes player development.

2675
02:19:16,040 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 3: He's a teacher. Coaching is teaching.

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02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 2: That is the number one reason why I believe he

2677
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:21,920
Speaker 2: was never going to leave a Yukon that along with

2678
02:19:21,959 --> 02:19:26,000
Speaker 2: his family, because in the NBA it's a players league.

2679
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:28,840
Speaker 2: In college it's a coaches league. He's a teacher.

2680
02:19:29,959 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: He has brought new ideas to the table from an

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Speaker 2: ex's and oh standpoint, and he has an offensive system

2683
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 2: that runs more sets than just about anybody in college basketball.

2684
02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:45,800
Speaker 2: And he's already influencing other programs, not just in college basketball,

2685
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 2: but overseas professional teams, high school teams, AAU teams, and

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02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:52,200
Speaker 2: he's doing it at a basketball school that's a true

2687
02:19:52,879 --> 02:19:55,560
Speaker 2: maybe not blue blood, but it's a true basketball school.

2688
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:58,480
Speaker 2: This is a program that won three titles under Jim Calhoun,

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02:19:58,520 --> 02:20:01,560
Speaker 2: won another one under Kevin Allie, and they basically said,

2690
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:03,760
Speaker 2: you know what, we've decided, we're going to be a

2691
02:20:03,959 --> 02:20:08,760
Speaker 2: basketball school. They chose basketball over football. They ditched the

2692
02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:11,560
Speaker 2: American for the Big East back in twenty twenty. So

2693
02:20:12,200 --> 02:20:14,080
Speaker 2: you can look at the sideline annex, you can look

2694
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:17,279
Speaker 2: at the bluster, look at the dominating teams that Bobby

2695
02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:21,640
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley is putting together. And the sport needs coaching

2696
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:25,279
Speaker 2: personalities like this. Coach k is no longer in the league.

2697
02:20:25,520 --> 02:20:28,560
Speaker 2: Roy Williams is no longer in the league, neither is

2698
02:20:28,680 --> 02:20:32,400
Speaker 2: Jay Wright. You get the point. They need the face

2699
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Speaker 2: and I think Danny Hurley is going to serve that purpose.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, Chris profests world of soccer. For first, we

2701
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:40,000
Speaker 2: go back to our guy to chef, Kevin Wired.

2702
02:20:40,160 --> 02:20:40,800
Speaker 3: With the last.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, speaking of soccer, we do have the European Soccer

2704
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:48,360
Speaker 10: Tournament going on right now. Actually, we have the first

2705
02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:51,280
Speaker 10: game of the day coming up at nine o'clock Eastern time.

2706
02:20:51,360 --> 02:20:54,560
Speaker 10: But the tournament is in full swing and yesterday we

2707
02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:57,560
Speaker 10: saw some results. At Spain, getting three goals in the

2708
02:20:57,600 --> 02:21:01,320
Speaker 10: first half, they blank Horatia three el Switzerland over Hungary

2709
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:05,720
Speaker 10: three to one. Italy beats Albania two to one. NHL

2710
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:10,400
Speaker 10: Stanley Cup Final, the Edmonton Oilers survive and force a

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Speaker 10: game five, although it was more than surviving in game

2712
02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:15,880
Speaker 10: four as they beat Florida eight to one, but they

2713
02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:18,039
Speaker 10: do survive at least in this series to force a

2714
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Speaker 10: game five on Tuesday in Sunrise, as the Panthers still

2715
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:24,560
Speaker 10: had in the Stanley Cup Final three games to one,

2716
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:27,480
Speaker 10: but Connor McDavid his first career Stanley Cup Final goal

2717
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:31,480
Speaker 10: along with three assists a four point performance as Edmonton

2718
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:36,840
Speaker 10: does live to fight another day. In the College World Series,

2719
02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:41,160
Speaker 10: a walk off home run by Kentucky Mitchell Daily hitting

2720
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:43,400
Speaker 10: the bomb for the Wildcats as they get by the

2721
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:47,040
Speaker 10: NC State wolf Pack in ten innings five to four.

2722
02:21:47,680 --> 02:21:50,959
Speaker 10: The game between Texas A and M and Florida was

2723
02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:53,840
Speaker 10: delayed by several hours because of rain, but eventually the

2724
02:21:53,879 --> 02:21:57,000
Speaker 10: Aggies do win it early in the morning local time

2725
02:21:57,040 --> 02:22:03,040
Speaker 10: in Omaha, beating Florida three to two. US opening Golfitz

2726
02:22:03,080 --> 02:22:05,840
Speaker 10: Bryce into Shambeau in the lead by three strokes. He's

2727
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:09,000
Speaker 10: seven under four the tournament shot a third round sixty seven,

2728
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Speaker 10: good for three hundred par on Saturday, so he's ahead

2729
02:22:12,240 --> 02:22:17,080
Speaker 10: of Rory McElroy and Patrick Cantley also tied there at

2730
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:21,320
Speaker 10: second at four under par. In Major League Baseball, Dodgers

2731
02:22:21,320 --> 02:22:24,600
Speaker 10: putcher Yoshi Nobo Yamamoto had to leave the game after

2732
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:28,160
Speaker 10: two innings because of triceps tightness, and it got worse

2733
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:31,200
Speaker 10: for LA as they fell to the Kansas City Royals

2734
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:35,320
Speaker 10: seven to two. The Astros fell to the Detroit Tigers

2735
02:22:35,320 --> 02:22:39,080
Speaker 10: thirteen to five, as Justin Ferlander not getting the opportunity

2736
02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:41,280
Speaker 10: to pitch against his old team as he was scratched

2737
02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:45,080
Speaker 10: because of a sore neck comes over the Cardinals five

2738
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:49,200
Speaker 10: to one, Shota Imonaga getting seven innings of work in

2739
02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:52,120
Speaker 10: as he's now seven to one in era of one

2740
02:22:52,480 --> 02:22:56,400
Speaker 10: point eight nine. Mariners over the Rangers seven to five.

2741
02:22:56,480 --> 02:22:58,680
Speaker 10: Mets win their fourth game in a row, beating the

2742
02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 10: Padres five to one, the Orioles over the Philly six

2743
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:03,720
Speaker 10: to two, and the game between the AA's and the

2744
02:23:03,720 --> 02:23:07,480
Speaker 10: Minnesota Twins was rained out. NFL News. Bengals wide receiver

2745
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:11,000
Speaker 10: t Higgins signing its franchise tag. He will report to

2746
02:23:11,080 --> 02:23:13,680
Speaker 10: camp for Cincinnati next month.

2747
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Back to you, Ordy, my good stuff, Chef, appreciate it

2748
02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:22,040
Speaker 2: all right, as your Kevin say, each week at this time, well,

2749
02:23:22,120 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if there's games on or off the field,

2750
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:27,600
Speaker 2: there's always events, and we bring them to you through

2751
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:29,600
Speaker 2: Chris Prefet's World of Soccer.

2752
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:43,920
Speaker 1: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama him.

2753
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:50,279
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2754
02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:53,760
Speaker 12: Finally, Bernie, after all these months, we finally made it

2755
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:57,160
Speaker 12: to the international schedule that actually matters. We're talking about

2756
02:23:57,440 --> 02:24:02,600
Speaker 12: UWEIFA European Championship twenty twenty four or EUROS and the

2757
02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:06,680
Speaker 12: Copa America for Conmo Bowl and Conker caf here twenty

2758
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:09,320
Speaker 12: twenty four. We haven't had as much time off as

2759
02:24:09,400 --> 02:24:13,040
Speaker 12: usually four years between these tournaments, but you know, because

2760
02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:15,160
Speaker 12: of COVID, a lot of that were played in twenty

2761
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:18,360
Speaker 12: twenty one, so teams coming back with a little less

2762
02:24:18,400 --> 02:24:20,960
Speaker 12: time off than we anticipate, which means we just get

2763
02:24:21,080 --> 02:24:24,160
Speaker 12: right straight at it. Euro is beginning this weekend. There's

2764
02:24:24,200 --> 02:24:26,320
Speaker 12: already been a game played. We'll talk about that one

2765
02:24:26,400 --> 02:24:30,120
Speaker 12: in a second and Copa here next weekend. Let's try

2766
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:32,960
Speaker 12: to preview both, and we're going to start with euros

2767
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:38,480
Speaker 12: European Championship is one of my favorite tournaments in the world.

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02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:40,200
Speaker 12: It is phenomenal.

2769
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:42,119
Speaker 1: It is like the World Cup, but on a much.

2770
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:45,320
Speaker 12: Smaller scale, and already Germany is off to a flying

2771
02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:48,320
Speaker 12: start five to one over Scotland the game on Friday.

2772
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:51,920
Speaker 12: Scotland had some buzz coming into this contest, but man,

2773
02:24:51,959 --> 02:24:56,039
Speaker 12: they let Germany handle them effortlessly. Tony Cruz free to

2774
02:24:56,080 --> 02:24:58,440
Speaker 12: deal damage all day long. All you had to do

2775
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:01,440
Speaker 12: was just leave him open and he gets an immaculate

2776
02:25:01,520 --> 02:25:04,760
Speaker 12: ninety foot cross to Florian Wurtz gets the goals started.

2777
02:25:05,080 --> 02:25:07,279
Speaker 12: It's the kind of teamwork machine we kind of expect

2778
02:25:07,280 --> 02:25:09,280
Speaker 12: to see from Germany. It'd be interesting to see how

2779
02:25:09,360 --> 02:25:11,240
Speaker 12: far they can go in a tournament where they haven't

2780
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:15,080
Speaker 12: had the same kind of success as been previous years.

2781
02:25:15,760 --> 02:25:15,920
Speaker 6: Now.

2782
02:25:15,959 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 12: Italy are the defending champions and they come in licking

2783
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:22,400
Speaker 12: a lot of wounds and it wasn't really even an

2784
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:25,680
Speaker 12: easy road for them to get here. A goalless draw

2785
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:29,080
Speaker 12: against Ukraine at the end of their qualification did get

2786
02:25:29,080 --> 02:25:31,800
Speaker 12: them in, but it wasn't the proud way to go

2787
02:25:31,879 --> 02:25:34,800
Speaker 12: in and they need to do some late stage homework

2788
02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 12: in the last few matches prior to that to get

2789
02:25:36,920 --> 02:25:39,680
Speaker 12: the points to get in and to be honest, the

2790
02:25:39,879 --> 02:25:43,920
Speaker 12: twenty twenty Championship for them is starting to feel more

2791
02:25:43,920 --> 02:25:46,080
Speaker 12: and more bittersweet, and it was made more and more

2792
02:25:46,120 --> 02:25:50,119
Speaker 12: bittersweet by missing out on the twenty twenty two.

2793
02:25:50,240 --> 02:25:51,240
Speaker 1: FIFA World Cup.

2794
02:25:51,560 --> 02:25:55,840
Speaker 12: It was made bittersweet by Roberto Mancini resigning a lot

2795
02:25:55,879 --> 02:25:59,560
Speaker 12: of the old generations simply being lost, and by the

2796
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:02,960
Speaker 12: days as it goes by, that twenty twenty euro crown

2797
02:26:03,120 --> 02:26:06,680
Speaker 12: feels just a little heavier, a little worse for wear,

2798
02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:12,039
Speaker 12: because it just wasn't a prelude to a good Italian club. Now, however,

2799
02:26:12,200 --> 02:26:15,959
Speaker 12: we've got Luciano Spiletti and unfortunately he's dealing with the

2800
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:18,800
Speaker 12: circus already. They've been spent the week in Italy arguing

2801
02:26:18,800 --> 02:26:21,760
Speaker 12: with the press about some misinterpreted words from him about

2802
02:26:21,760 --> 02:26:25,920
Speaker 12: a quote PlayStation ban unquote. But it's not the same

2803
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:29,000
Speaker 12: squad as before, and really this is an Italian team

2804
02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:32,600
Speaker 12: that is lacking attacking options. They know, how longer have Varati,

2805
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:36,320
Speaker 12: they no longer have Insigne, They will have Jean Lucas

2806
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:39,879
Speaker 12: Scamaca nineteen goals this season for Adalanta, but he's only

2807
02:26:39,879 --> 02:26:42,520
Speaker 12: scored for Italy one time so far. But this will

2808
02:26:42,520 --> 02:26:45,800
Speaker 12: be a really good defensive squad. I just don't know

2809
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:48,280
Speaker 12: if that's really going to cut it in twenty twenty four.

2810
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:52,480
Speaker 12: And it's really tough for me as an Italian fan

2811
02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:54,960
Speaker 12: to watch this and just kind of hold my breath

2812
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:57,440
Speaker 12: wondering what's going to go wrong. But my pick for

2813
02:26:57,520 --> 02:27:00,000
Speaker 12: euro and I keep doing this and I regret it

2814
02:27:00,040 --> 02:27:03,680
Speaker 12: every year though, is England. But here's the thing, if

2815
02:27:03,760 --> 02:27:08,520
Speaker 12: not now, when for England. This England squad features a

2816
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:13,519
Speaker 12: wonderful midfield Jude Bellingham, Declan Rice. They have a resurgent

2817
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:16,320
Speaker 12: Harry Kane who was great in Germany this past year,

2818
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:20,840
Speaker 12: the phenomenal buyak Osaka sixteen goals for Arsenal. They came

2819
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 12: so close in twenty twenty losing in that shootout to Italy.

2820
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:26,439
Speaker 10: But each year England.

2821
02:27:26,120 --> 02:27:29,800
Speaker 12: Comes back more loaded, more stocked up, and much like

2822
02:27:29,840 --> 02:27:33,000
Speaker 12: the World Cup, you have to wonder are they going

2823
02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:34,840
Speaker 12: to screw this up or are they actually going to

2824
02:27:34,840 --> 02:27:36,600
Speaker 12: bring it home? You just kind of hold your breath

2825
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:39,680
Speaker 12: wondering what's gonna happen. But still on paper, there the

2826
02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:42,120
Speaker 12: best team, they're one of the favorites and they're my

2827
02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:45,080
Speaker 12: pick for Euro twenty twenty four. Let's move over to

2828
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:48,320
Speaker 12: Copa America. It's going to start next week. There's always

2829
02:27:48,400 --> 02:27:50,680
Speaker 12: this is a contest that always seems to come down

2830
02:27:50,680 --> 02:27:55,560
Speaker 12: to Argentina and Brazil. Argentina the defending champions once again here.

2831
02:27:55,680 --> 02:28:00,120
Speaker 12: This is probably Lionel Messi's final time with Argentina. I

2832
02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:01,400
Speaker 12: don't know if he's going to be on the World

2833
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:04,560
Speaker 12: Cup squad one more time, but it's certainly going to

2834
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:07,160
Speaker 12: be the last Copa for one of the greatest players

2835
02:28:07,160 --> 02:28:09,800
Speaker 12: we've ever seen. Brazil always a heavyweight in this, but

2836
02:28:10,040 --> 02:28:12,920
Speaker 12: let's talk about the United States, who will be playing

2837
02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:17,560
Speaker 12: along with several other concacaffeinations like Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama.

2838
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:21,400
Speaker 12: USA had a one to one draw against Brazil in

2839
02:28:21,440 --> 02:28:24,000
Speaker 12: a friendly leading up to this tournament. It ended in

2840
02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:27,680
Speaker 12: eleven game losing streak against Brazil for the USA, so

2841
02:28:27,840 --> 02:28:31,039
Speaker 12: that's a good sign. But the week prior we had

2842
02:28:31,160 --> 02:28:34,920
Speaker 12: a five to one loss to Colombia and it just

2843
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:39,920
Speaker 12: once again reinforces the problem with the United States. A massive, massive,

2844
02:28:40,600 --> 02:28:44,480
Speaker 12: very inconsistent, and really it's kind of always been the

2845
02:28:44,480 --> 02:28:47,879
Speaker 12: frustration watching a Greg bear Halter squad where you just

2846
02:28:48,040 --> 02:28:50,120
Speaker 12: know they have the talent there, and they know they

2847
02:28:50,120 --> 02:28:53,199
Speaker 12: have the talent to compete, but it just never really

2848
02:28:53,400 --> 02:28:55,960
Speaker 12: seems to translate game to game, and you're just left

2849
02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:59,440
Speaker 12: scratching your head wondering, why does this club, Why does

2850
02:28:59,480 --> 02:29:02,720
Speaker 12: this team who can draw even with Brazil, one of

2851
02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:06,200
Speaker 12: the greatest nations in the world at soccer, and then

2852
02:29:06,320 --> 02:29:08,480
Speaker 12: lose five to one to Columbia earlier than that. It

2853
02:29:09,240 --> 02:29:11,360
Speaker 12: never makes sense. And this is going to be the

2854
02:29:11,480 --> 02:29:14,680
Speaker 12: USA playing on its home turf here in America, this

2855
02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:17,400
Speaker 12: is where COPA will be, and it just keeps going

2856
02:29:17,480 --> 02:29:20,119
Speaker 12: back months and months. You can look to the game

2857
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:25,760
Speaker 12: against Jamaica in March and the speech by Greg Berhalter

2858
02:29:25,879 --> 02:29:28,760
Speaker 12: there as he's just trying to get his guys in

2859
02:29:28,800 --> 02:29:31,520
Speaker 12: the United States to take all of these games seriously

2860
02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:34,000
Speaker 12: if they are going to compete at COPA. By his

2861
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:36,400
Speaker 12: own admission, it seems to be in one year out

2862
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:40,279
Speaker 12: the other sometimes, which is terrifying to think about really,

2863
02:29:40,440 --> 02:29:43,200
Speaker 12: because that's ultimately been the problem with the United States

2864
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:46,160
Speaker 12: has been this consistency and if I may, Bernie, where's

2865
02:29:46,200 --> 02:29:49,520
Speaker 12: the buzz around the US men's team? The women always

2866
02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:52,000
Speaker 12: get a lot of attention, Yes we know that, but like,

2867
02:29:52,360 --> 02:29:55,320
Speaker 12: where is the buzz around this US men's team? This

2868
02:29:55,360 --> 02:29:59,240
Speaker 12: is supposedly great generation. I have seen plenty of empty

2869
02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:02,920
Speaker 12: stadiums fourteen USA. It is certainly not the kind of

2870
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:06,160
Speaker 12: fan turnout we used to get when it was Tim

2871
02:30:06,200 --> 02:30:09,680
Speaker 12: Howard and Landon Donovan and Clinton Dempsey. It feels like

2872
02:30:10,040 --> 02:30:13,360
Speaker 12: that fire under the fan base has just completely gone

2873
02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:17,439
Speaker 12: out and nobody is really resonating with this current generation.

2874
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:20,440
Speaker 12: This squad is better than ever, and yet media attention

2875
02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:24,600
Speaker 12: is nowhere near what it was just ten years ago

2876
02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:28,360
Speaker 12: with that past generation. Nobody is really resonating with these

2877
02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:30,879
Speaker 12: guys right now, And to be honest, can't really blame

2878
02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:33,840
Speaker 12: them when we have these kind of consistency problems, because yes,

2879
02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:37,000
Speaker 12: Christian Fulisich is better, and yes Giovanni Raina is better,

2880
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:38,879
Speaker 12: even though he keeps getting screwed out of a lot

2881
02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:41,240
Speaker 12: of playing time no matter which your PP and club

2882
02:30:41,240 --> 02:30:44,160
Speaker 12: he goes to. But it's really hard when you just

2883
02:30:44,200 --> 02:30:46,320
Speaker 12: see these guys out there with a lack of fire

2884
02:30:46,520 --> 02:30:50,000
Speaker 12: game to game, you want them to fight like dogs

2885
02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:52,680
Speaker 12: like Clint Dempsey did, and I just I don't think

2886
02:30:52,680 --> 02:30:55,520
Speaker 12: that's there right now, and that's ultimately ultimately going to

2887
02:30:55,600 --> 02:30:58,400
Speaker 12: hurt them in Copa for me. Me though, on Copa,

2888
02:30:58,520 --> 02:31:03,920
Speaker 12: my favorite, my favorite is on Brazil Vensius Junior, Rodrigo.

2889
02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:08,240
Speaker 12: They've had some fantastic players here from the club side

2890
02:31:08,240 --> 02:31:13,920
Speaker 12: of things, and expect again another wonderful outing from Venisius Junior.

2891
02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:16,560
Speaker 12: I'm kind of hoping good things from this Brazil squad here,

2892
02:31:16,720 --> 02:31:19,680
Speaker 12: especially as Argentina starts to show its age. I think

2893
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:21,920
Speaker 12: if we're just talking about the United States, you just

2894
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:24,760
Speaker 12: hope to see them in the knockout round and come

2895
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:27,320
Speaker 12: out of their group, which should be easy for them.

2896
02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:31,080
Speaker 12: They're playing Bolivia, Panama and Uruguay, but Panama has always

2897
02:31:31,080 --> 02:31:33,280
Speaker 12: been trouble for the United States for whatever reason, and

2898
02:31:33,440 --> 02:31:37,199
Speaker 12: Uruguay is no slouch. That's it for me, Bernie, enjoy Copa,

2899
02:31:37,440 --> 02:31:40,160
Speaker 12: Enjoy Euros. We've got plenty to talk about next time

2900
02:31:40,280 --> 02:31:41,320
Speaker 12: on the World of Soccer.

2901
02:31:42,360 --> 02:31:44,200
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Chris, and things are going to

2902
02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:47,600
Speaker 2: really heat up here as we trend toward the Paris

2903
02:31:47,640 --> 02:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Olympics on July twenty sixth, coming up, Well, no, Joy

2904
02:31:54,760 --> 02:31:57,880
Speaker 2: Chestnut will not be competing apparently, at least as it

2905
02:31:57,959 --> 02:32:02,800
Speaker 2: stands today in the July fourth Nathan's Hot Dog Geting Contest.

2906
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:08,000
Speaker 2: But Netflix wastes no time and put in together the

2907
02:32:08,080 --> 02:32:10,160
Speaker 2: all time arrivalry the two who haven't been on the

2908
02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:13,760
Speaker 2: same stage since two thousand and nine. Yep, Netflix is

2909
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:16,120
Speaker 2: getting into the competitive eating business. And I'm not talking

2910
02:32:16,160 --> 02:32:21,560
Speaker 2: about Mike Tyson biting Jake Paul's ear. Yes, Netflix has

2911
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:24,400
Speaker 2: come up with something, and frankly, in my opinion, I

2912
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:27,880
Speaker 2: think it's a genius. Well share it coming up. I'm

2913
02:32:27,879 --> 02:32:29,600
Speaker 2: Bernie Frodder. We're coming to live from the Las Vegas

2914
02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tirect dot Com studios. Keep it locked

2915
02:32:32,280 --> 02:32:34,440
Speaker 2: listening with the Bernie Frauder Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2916
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:38,400
Speaker 3: Ah.

2917
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:42,039
Speaker 2: Yes, the classic tones of Aretha Franklin, the Queen of Soul.

2918
02:32:43,640 --> 02:32:45,360
Speaker 3: We are wrapping it up on the Bernie Fraudle Show.

2919
02:32:45,360 --> 02:32:48,080
Speaker 2: We're coming to live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

2920
02:32:48,160 --> 02:32:51,160
Speaker 2: Radio Tiret dot Com Studios. Before I go any further,

2921
02:32:51,800 --> 02:32:54,039
Speaker 2: I want to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles.

2922
02:32:54,040 --> 02:32:56,920
Speaker 2: They'd be able to be since eleven pm Pacific on

2923
02:32:57,480 --> 02:33:00,640
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Of course, Mark Ramsey our technical producer, turning

2924
02:33:00,680 --> 02:33:03,360
Speaker 2: all the dolls, keeping us glued together, coming up with

2925
02:33:03,400 --> 02:33:06,120
Speaker 2: the good names on what my name, and hitting all

2926
02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:10,240
Speaker 2: the drops. Great job is always, Mark running a tight ship. Brie,

2927
02:33:10,280 --> 02:33:13,360
Speaker 2: outstanding jobs always. You've done a couple of shows with

2928
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:17,119
Speaker 2: me now and really on your game.

2929
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:18,080
Speaker 3: Great stuff.

2930
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:20,400
Speaker 2: And of course the chef Kevin Wirrett, been with me

2931
02:33:20,440 --> 02:33:22,360
Speaker 2: for a while on the updates. And of course his

2932
02:33:22,440 --> 02:33:28,000
Speaker 2: performance at one thirty Pacific every Friday, every Saturday morning.

2933
02:33:28,400 --> 02:33:31,039
Speaker 2: Check that every Saturday night heading into Sunday morning is not.

2934
02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:31,920
Speaker 3: To be missed.

2935
02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 2: So Bree, Mark and chef, outstanding job tonight top to bottom,

2936
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:41,920
Speaker 2: all right, you heard Saturday. And so Joe Joe Joe

2937
02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:44,840
Speaker 2: Chestnut is not going to be in the participating in

2938
02:33:45,040 --> 02:33:48,080
Speaker 2: this year's July fourth Nathan's competition, at least that's as

2939
02:33:48,080 --> 02:33:51,320
Speaker 2: it stands right now, because he got himself a sponsorship

2940
02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 2: with plant eating Hot Plant.

2941
02:33:53,240 --> 02:33:55,120
Speaker 3: No plants don't eat hot talks. This is a plant

2942
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:56,440
Speaker 3: based hot dog. All right.

2943
02:33:56,959 --> 02:33:58,440
Speaker 2: We talked about a Friday night. We don't need to

2944
02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:00,520
Speaker 2: go down that road. You already know what happens. It

2945
02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:03,480
Speaker 2: looks like now that Nathan's is just simply not going

2946
02:34:03,560 --> 02:34:06,600
Speaker 2: to allow to participate. They liking to Michael Jordan. They

2947
02:34:06,680 --> 02:34:10,199
Speaker 2: likned it to Michael Jordan having a sponsorship with Nike,

2948
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:13,560
Speaker 2: which he did, and then approaching Nike and saying, hey,

2949
02:34:13,560 --> 02:34:15,280
Speaker 2: you know, I really like my sponsorship, but I like

2950
02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:16,360
Speaker 2: to do Adidas as well.

2951
02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:17,720
Speaker 3: It's not gonna work.

2952
02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:23,200
Speaker 2: So how can you have a Nathan's Hot Dog Eating

2953
02:34:23,200 --> 02:34:25,840
Speaker 2: Contest without Joey Chestnum. I guess we're gonna find out.

2954
02:34:26,600 --> 02:34:29,920
Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna find out two weeks from next Thursday.

2955
02:34:30,320 --> 02:34:35,760
Speaker 2: But in the meantime to look now, Netflix is getting

2956
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:40,320
Speaker 2: into the competitive eating business. Netflix will host a live

2957
02:34:40,640 --> 02:34:46,400
Speaker 2: streaming event on Labor Day, September two, featuring the two

2958
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:50,680
Speaker 2: official legends of Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest, Joey Chestnut

2959
02:34:51,320 --> 02:34:53,680
Speaker 2: and Takiro Kobayashi. I bet you didn't know his first

2960
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:56,720
Speaker 2: name is Takiro, right, You just know him as Kobayashi.

2961
02:34:57,360 --> 02:35:02,119
Speaker 2: The live special will be called Yes, Chestnut Versus Kobayashi

2962
02:35:03,440 --> 02:35:06,400
Speaker 2: Unfinished Beef. Now, we don't know where it's going to

2963
02:35:06,440 --> 02:35:10,200
Speaker 2: be held, we don't know the specific timing, still all

2964
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:13,920
Speaker 2: to be determined. But the one thing that Netflix has determined,

2965
02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:16,600
Speaker 2: in addition to the two combatants for all the marbles.

2966
02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:19,120
Speaker 2: The hot dogs will be all beef hot dogs.

2967
02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:20,680
Speaker 3: They will not be.

2968
02:35:22,400 --> 02:35:25,520
Speaker 2: You know, the plant based all right, in case you

2969
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:28,000
Speaker 2: missed it, and I don't think you did. These are

2970
02:35:28,040 --> 02:35:30,920
Speaker 2: two legendary competitive eaters. They battle each other for years

2971
02:35:30,959 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 2: in the annual Nathan's Contest, but it's been a minute.

2972
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:36,600
Speaker 2: The last time they competed head to head was in

2973
02:35:36,640 --> 02:35:40,280
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, when Chestnut beat Kobayashi in a

2974
02:35:40,320 --> 02:35:44,760
Speaker 2: five hot dog sudden death eat off. Now Chestnut has

2975
02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:47,640
Speaker 2: gone on to be a sixteen time Nathan's winner, including

2976
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:50,840
Speaker 2: the last eight years, but again not allowed to participate

2977
02:35:50,920 --> 02:35:55,520
Speaker 2: this year after he inked a sponsorship agreement with Impossible Foods,

2978
02:35:55,920 --> 02:35:59,320
Speaker 2: which recently released a plant based dog plant based hot dog.

2979
02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:04,200
Speaker 2: So Chestnut's absence from the event I believe will have

2980
02:36:04,240 --> 02:36:08,760
Speaker 2: an impact on the ratings because ESPN has had an exclusive.

2981
02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:13,560
Speaker 2: That's how you know popular this event has been. I mean,

2982
02:36:13,600 --> 02:36:16,840
Speaker 2: thirty thousand people attend it and millions watch it, and

2983
02:36:16,879 --> 02:36:19,000
Speaker 2: you can bet on it. You can bet on it.

2984
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:20,840
Speaker 2: There's lots of ways to bet on it. And I

2985
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Speaker 2: always talk about it. You know, a lot of times

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Speaker 2: I'll do a show that people take time off. I'll

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02:36:25,320 --> 02:36:27,280
Speaker 2: do a show the night before July fourth, or even

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Speaker 2: my show the week before. I'll tell about the ways

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02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:31,960
Speaker 2: you can bet on it and what the betting odds.

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Speaker 3: Are.

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02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:35,120
Speaker 2: By the way, Joey Chestnut holds the record for most

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Speaker 2: hot talks consumed in ten minutes seventy six. It's one

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02:36:38,400 --> 02:36:39,880
Speaker 2: of the things you can bet on every year. Will

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02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:41,640
Speaker 2: he break a record? Will he over under be this

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02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:43,880
Speaker 2: or that? And depending if it's cold or if it's hot,

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02:36:43,920 --> 02:36:48,960
Speaker 2: believe it or not, these things matter anyway. Kobayashi was

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02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:52,960
Speaker 2: talked about by Joey Chestnut in a recent statement. He said, quote,

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Speaker 2: through all my years of competition and competitive eating, Kobayashi

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Speaker 2: stands out.

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02:36:56,600 --> 02:36:57,720
Speaker 3: He's my fiercest rival.

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02:36:58,120 --> 02:37:01,600
Speaker 2: Competing against Kobayashi pushed me to be so much better.

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02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:03,720
Speaker 2: I know that fans have waited a long time for

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02:37:03,720 --> 02:37:06,320
Speaker 2: another chapter of our rivalry, and I can't wait for

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02:37:06,400 --> 02:37:09,880
Speaker 2: our massive showdown live on Netflix. It's time to give

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Speaker 2: the people what they want. You know, you can scoff

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02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:14,280
Speaker 2: with that, but I actually do think people kind of

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02:37:14,280 --> 02:37:18,320
Speaker 2: want this all right. Kobayashi. By the way, no slouch.

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02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:20,720
Speaker 2: Six times Nathan's winner. They did a thirty for thirty

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02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:22,640
Speaker 2: on his life. It's really good back on I think

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02:37:22,720 --> 02:37:26,120
Speaker 2: twenty eight nineteen arguably the first competitive lead to basically

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02:37:26,200 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 2: become an international celebrity. In the two thousand and one contest,

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02:37:29,480 --> 02:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Kobayashi had fifty hot dogs in twelve minutes, which seem

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02:37:32,840 --> 02:37:36,560
Speaker 2: like astronomical Now they're up to seventy six. He had

3014
02:37:36,600 --> 02:37:39,080
Speaker 2: a contact dispute as well with Major League Eating and

3015
02:37:39,120 --> 02:37:41,280
Speaker 2: they prevented him from returning to the competition.

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02:37:41,320 --> 02:37:42,680
Speaker 3: Major League Eating is.

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02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:48,600
Speaker 2: The organization that oversees Nathan's and the contest. So Netflix

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02:37:48,640 --> 02:37:51,480
Speaker 2: has managed to get Kobayashi out of retirement for one

3019
02:37:51,560 --> 02:37:57,720
Speaker 2: last for one last challenge, and Kobyashi is up fort

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Speaker 2: He says, retiring for me will only have after I

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Speaker 2: take him down one more time. So what do you

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02:38:02,440 --> 02:38:04,720
Speaker 2: want to bet? There's maybe even a rematch. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but for sure there is going to be a match.

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Speaker 2: You can bet on it back on the Airways next

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Speaker 2: Friday at eleven. In the meantime, keep it locked, Andy Ferman,

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing to come out of Cincinnati since Unipol

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Speaker 2: Bill Near Armstrong