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Speaker 1: got Vincent Bonsignor. He's the LA Daily news beat writer

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Speaker 1: Live starts right now. Oh a good time. Steve Pasper done. Touchdown,

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Speaker 1: Touchdown Town, Touchdown taps time. One Bills Live from Orchard

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Speaker 1: Park from the ad Pro Sports Training Center right next

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, John Murphy alongside my broadcast partner, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: coming to be Alive from our one Buffalo studio in

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park, Ready to go, Ready to go to training camp,

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Speaker 1: our last show in Orchard Park. I feel like I

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at five thirty. And what do you know, Steve,

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Speaker 1: pretty good news, big news today. I wasn't sure this

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Speaker 1: Spotrack dot com says the deal is of course, it

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Speaker 1: is all set up by where he's drafted in position.

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Speaker 1: It's a twenty one million dollar deal, four years, including

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Speaker 1: with the offset language. That apparently was settled. And last

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Speaker 1: professional quarterback do it like an AJ Peter, an AJ McCarron,

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Speaker 1: who has done it, who has seen a starter do

429
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Speaker 1: it in Andy, Dalton and Cincinnati, has a way to

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Speaker 1: watch film, has a schedule where he says, like, listen,

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Speaker 1: for the next two hours this afternoon, from from four

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Speaker 1: to six, We're gonna sit here and watch film. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have supper and watch film and talk this over.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna see what they're doing in their secondary

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Speaker 1: on Third and Law. You know you watch this stuff.

436
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Speaker 1: They spend hours upon hours watching film and talking about

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Speaker 1: it with guys they trust and who know the offense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Josh Allen knows you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: do that yet. I don't know what he knows that

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Speaker 1: he is his schedule is gonna require for him to

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Speaker 1: get ready. I don't think he knows. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what you miss as a young quarterback. You've never

443
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Speaker 1: seen a pro quarterback go through a game week before

444
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Speaker 1: and know the time they have to put in. Some

445
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Speaker 1: of these guys come into the league and that everybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tuesdays in the NFL or a day off.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys take off and that's the time they

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Speaker 1: get to go to, you know, be with their wife

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Speaker 1: and kids. They go to you know, they you know,

450
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Speaker 1: get their drug gLing, to do their laundry, they move

451
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Speaker 1: whatever they do in their personal life away from football.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks don't get to do that. They have to come

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Speaker 1: in on Tuesdays. They come in and put in the

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Speaker 1: extra work on Tuesdays that nobody else does. That's something

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Speaker 1: that young quarterbacks who've come into the league, they don't

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Speaker 1: show up on Tuesday. The coaching staffs calling, they where

457
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Speaker 1: are you? And he says, well, I thought Tuesday was

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Speaker 1: our day off. Yeah, not yours. They don't know that.

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Speaker 1: All of that stuff has to be learned, and you

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Speaker 1: have to do it by seeing another quarterback like like

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Speaker 1: a Tyrod Taylor in Cleveland, for Baker Mayfield, like Josh

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Speaker 1: McCown and the New York Jets like AJ McCarron here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. You gotta wat you guy go through it

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Speaker 1: and understand what it takes to prepare and I don't

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Speaker 1: you know, day one, week one, that's hard. How do

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Speaker 1: you know that? Let us know what you think. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is signed, he's in camp, he'll be on the

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Speaker 1: field tomorrow. Who do you want to start? A quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the Bills in Baltimore September ninth? On who do

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Speaker 1: you predict? Who do you want to start? We'll take

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Speaker 1: your phone calls. We'll talk about it on Twitter. Patrick

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Speaker 1: on the line from Los Angeles with some thoughts on this, Patrick, Ohan,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hey, good morning, guys.

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Speaker 1: How's it going? Good? Good? It's gonna end up being

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Speaker 1: Josh allt over time at the beginning, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the learning curve. Yeah, we're talking about September nine. Though

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Speaker 1: I agree that it's gonna be Josh Allen. But do

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Speaker 1: you want Patrick? Would you like Josh Allen to start

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Speaker 1: on opening day? Send him to the wolves time. We're

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Speaker 1: going to see it by the end. See that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. Throw him to the wolves. But

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Speaker 1: you know you might get eaten, you sink or swim.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it. You know, we paid for it. Let's

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Speaker 1: get it right. What if But here's the thing, Pat,

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Speaker 1: and I get it, I understand completely, and I here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. If that for that to happen. What happens

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Speaker 1: if he does sinking but he goes you know, because

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Speaker 1: he was started too early, it gives him less chance

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Speaker 1: to be successful early. Well that's what you know, what

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Speaker 1: I the question originally was what I would like to

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Speaker 1: see is Josh Allen excelled by the end and gets

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Speaker 1: it naturally get it. But you know, it's we have

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Speaker 1: we have three great options and that we're in a

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Speaker 1: great place. And I'm really excited about this defense. I

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Speaker 1: had to sneak that one in. But like, oh, Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: was awesome on the show the other day, and task

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Speaker 1: thank you for holding it down. You know, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you a top ten defense is happening. It's happening so great,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much. The West Coast is excited.

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Speaker 1: I was at the Peterman game. It was my son's

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Speaker 1: first game, and uh it was you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: just not a Charger fan for life now or no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're ever. It's like we bleed buffalo. So it's, uh,

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Speaker 1: the biggest is that both have destroyed him. You know,

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Speaker 1: the set. It's yet time he got clawbered and I

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's I thought it was things were

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Speaker 1: looking good. Until Benjamin got injured, you know, like he

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Speaker 1: had her, he had a weapon, he knew it was early. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, josh or Patrick, thanks very much for your call.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Ron and lack of want a Ron.

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Speaker 1: Who do you want to start a quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: Bills on opening day in Baltimore? Morning, guys, afternoon? Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Are you there? Yeah? Go ahead? Oh? Okay? Um. First

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Speaker 1: of all, or what I want to say is because

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a top ten defense, like

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Speaker 1: Tasker says, I agree with that. So that's all the

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Speaker 1: more reason I think josh Owens should be in there

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yes, he might make a few mistakes, but

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Speaker 1: the Beavers hopefully it could cover up and make up

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Speaker 1: some of those if we's some of those mistakes. We

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Speaker 1: moved up to the draft to get this kid, and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the luxury to sit behind the Brett

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Speaker 1: Father or Brent Russburg Russburger or John Bryan there. Like

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Speaker 1: to hear your comments, so I'll say later, right, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Ten d is the word of the day

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Speaker 1: is a sign I just made. Yeah, don't point in

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Speaker 1: me like I'm rooting against it either. I just think

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Speaker 1: top ten is your philistine you have no faith. Top

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Speaker 1: ten is a big jump from twenty nine wherever they were,

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Speaker 1: huge jump. I know they're gonna be better on defense.

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Speaker 1: It isn't, but I'm believe me. I'm hoping. I'm not predicting,

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Speaker 1: but no, you've been predicting. I'm predicting. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: back off from it. But and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: big balancing everybody's going through today, right. You want to

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Speaker 1: see that. We'd love to see him play. We'd love

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Speaker 1: to see him outshine A. J. Mccarren. We'd love to

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Speaker 1: see him outshine Nathan Peterman and go out there and

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Speaker 1: be the man from day one. That's what we all

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Speaker 1: hope for. But the thing is, we've all seen it

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Speaker 1: so much, and in this conversation too, we've saw Nate

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Speaker 1: Peterman go through it. It's gonna be ugly at times,

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Speaker 1: even if he's I mean, Peyton Manning had as good

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Speaker 1: a rookie year as you'll ever see. And he threw

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Speaker 1: had like twenty eight touchdowns and or twenty seven touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six touchdowns and twenty eight interceptions. It was like

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty, but he threw it on and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, and this is I've never forgotten this. I've

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Speaker 1: in these production meetings we do with the network. We'll

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Speaker 1: go out and we'll sit down and talk with these

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks and head coaches, and I've talked with I've

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Speaker 1: sat in rookie season with Peyton Manning and then his

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Speaker 1: second season with Peyton Manning. I've talked with Ryan Leaf

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Speaker 1: and his rookie year. I've talked with all these guys,

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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and Drew Brees. I've sat down with

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Speaker 1: all of them, and I'll never forget something that Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning said to me in his second year in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League when they were they went from three

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Speaker 1: and thirteen his rookie season to thirteen and three in

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Speaker 1: his second year. He said, in his rookie season, he

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Speaker 1: took every snap, and he said, I learned a lot

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Speaker 1: of really good football lessons in the fourth quarter of

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Speaker 1: some really bad football games his rookie season. I've never

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Speaker 1: forgotten that. And he persevered through some really difficult times

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Speaker 1: in his rookie season. They were Remember Jim Moore was

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Speaker 1: his head coach, and Jim more was like playoffs, playoffs,

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Speaker 1: you know, that was the mantra, and that was a

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Speaker 1: kind of the situation Peyton Manning lived through as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: It was ugly. It was ugly, but he persevered through

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Speaker 1: all of that. And I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 1: support network he had, and of course we all found

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Speaker 1: out later in his career kind of character he had.

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Speaker 1: He was gonna persevere anyway. But do you want to

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Speaker 1: see that in Josh Allen. You want to see him

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Speaker 1: throw him out there and just say, you know what, son,

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Speaker 1: just relax. It doesn't matter how bad you play. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna take every snap and you're gonna learn a lot

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Speaker 1: of tough lessons and we're gonna get through this. And

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Speaker 1: just and if you can support that kid like that

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Speaker 1: in the midst of a season where your defense maybe

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Speaker 1: a top ten defense and so you're still losing games,

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Speaker 1: that's hard to do. You gotta be willing to do

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Speaker 1: that though. That's that's difficult for everybody in the building

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Speaker 1: and the fans. But it's happened before, and it's turned

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Speaker 1: out to be a pretty good scenario for that quarterback

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Speaker 1: and those fans. I'm hoping it happens. I'm not predicting

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Speaker 1: it well, but I'm hoping it happens for johsh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from you. We got phone lines open. Who

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Speaker 1: do you want to start at quarterback in the season

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Speaker 1: opening for the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen is under contract now.

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Speaker 1: Who'll be there at camp on the practice field tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Do you want him? Do you want Nathan Peterman? Do

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Speaker 1: you want a j McCarron. Give us a call eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty or on Twitter at one.

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Speaker 1: Bills Live Good Show Today coming up at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Massurik's gonna join us. He is the Bills equipment manager.

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Speaker 1: Gonna talk to us about the process of getting all

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Speaker 1: that football equipment from Orchard Park to Pittsburgh, New York.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about football out west in in

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Speaker 1: the state of California. Vincent Bouncing, You're a LA Daily

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Speaker 1: News Rams count Onness Rams Insider on five seventy am

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, Rams making big moves and making big plays,

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Speaker 1: trying to get themselves deep into the postseason. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: with Vincent Bouncing your about that. But most of all,

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Speaker 1: we want to hear from you your thoughts on today's

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Speaker 1: signing of Josh Allen and who do you want to

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Speaker 1: start a quarterback against the Ravens? In the opener Back

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Speaker 1: with more One Bill's Live presented by Collada Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio Drive

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Speaker 1: Today tomorrow, We're live at Saint John Fisher College in Pittsfurgh,

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Speaker 1: New York. The beautiful campus on the east side of Rochester.

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Speaker 1: Talking to our producer Jay Harris, who's out there today

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Speaker 1: on a scouting mission. He says, it looks great. Our

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Speaker 1: setup is going to be great. Is nothing there now,

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Speaker 1: no equipment, no electronics, but he as sure as us

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Speaker 1: it'll be there by tomorrow and it's a good setup.

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Speaker 1: It'll be great. They're on the field tomorrow at five thirty.

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Speaker 1: And if you need information about the training camp practice

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Speaker 1: schedule or about ticket availability tomorrow at five thirty that

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Speaker 1: is a ticketed practice, go to our website Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: dot com. They have the latest information. I do have

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Speaker 1: a question, yes, sir, I want to know where my

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Speaker 1: parking pass is. Well, I don't have one either. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to talk our way over there together, right

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Speaker 1: all right, and we're gonna go and talk our way,

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Speaker 1: walk through, talk our way into practice or into the parking.

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Speaker 1: I'm with John Murphy, right, see how far that we'll

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Speaker 1: be parked over and the other side we'll be in Greece,

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Speaker 1: New York. Have our hands against the hood of the

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Speaker 1: car being searched. We're there tomorrow the show noon to

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Speaker 1: three with some good guests coming up, and of course

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Speaker 1: they're on Friday as well. With a Friday is interesting

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Speaker 1: because the practice is two forty five, I believe, so

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Speaker 1: we will catch some of that practice live on or

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Speaker 1: two fifteen on Friday. My bad, some of that practice

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Speaker 1: will be able to show you on Friday on our show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that'd be fun it stretch walk through, that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. Our plan is we're gonna catch some of

639
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Speaker 1: these guys coming off the field tomorrow after the walkthrough,

640
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: before they go to their first practice that afternoon, So

641
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on. We'll be over there early in

642
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: the day and we'll catch some guys, sit down with

643
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: them and do some interviews. And I'm looking forward to it.

644
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Maybe too, the show becomes easier. We've come a long

645
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: way in two days. I'm telling a couple of days ago,

646
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I'm gonna go to camp. I

647
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: went to camp there thirteen years as a player. I

648
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: don't want to go to camp anymore. You've come a

649
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: long way, and just as I have an open mind,

650
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm listen. I'm I can adapt. We'll be there tomorrow

651
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: with the training camp our topic. Today, Josh Allen is signed.

652
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. I have to say. I thought

653
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: this stupid to dispute over offset language is gonna ruin

654
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: his first weekend at least, but it didn't. I did.

655
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, man, because you know why I don't.

656
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't trust agents. I think would have been a

657
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: two week conversation. If he had missed forty eight hours,

658
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I would have been upset because it's not him, it's

659
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: his agent trying to make himself relevant. But that's over.

660
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: That's behind us. Now. He is signed. They did whatever

661
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: they had to do with the offset language. I don't

662
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: know what it is, and he's going to be at

663
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: training camp today. He's there, he's gonna be on the

664
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: field tomorrow. So who do you want to be your starter?

665
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: On September ninth, when the Bills open up against the

666
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. That's our Twitter thinks gonna be who do

667
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: you want? Who you're looking for? And that's why Josh

668
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Allen's running away with this a little bit. But I

669
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: think too a lot of people who chose a j

670
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: McCarron or Nate Peterman, the big fear is they want

671
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: to be conservative with it because they feel like Allen's

672
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: too valuable for all the things that we have gone

673
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: through this offseason to make sure that they got a

674
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: chance to jump up get him, trade, trade Tyrod Taylor,

675
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: trade Cordy Glenn to get picks and maneuvered, and you

676
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: think about all the hoops they jumped through the gear

677
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: that high into the draft to pick one of the guys.

678
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: Go back to the draft to day last year, move

679
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: down about it, and finally you know, it comes to

680
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: fruition and they after going through that, fans were just saying, Listen,

681
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: don't blow it now by throwing him out there and

682
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, scarring him for the rest of his life.

683
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: I get that. I don't agree with that, but I

684
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: understand why people would feel that way. That has happened

685
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I understand that, but I think the

686
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks can survive that. Oh, you threw him to

687
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: the Wolves in his rookie year. You cite Peyton Manning

688
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: great example, did not have a great year his rookie year.

689
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: He was okay, got better as the season went along.

690
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: And I'd like to think that Josh Allen is made

691
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: of some of that same stuff, like, Wow, that was

692
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: tough my rookie year. Didn't have a great supporting cast.

693
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: We had a good defense, but not a great supporting cast.

694
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I didn't really know everything I needed to know. But

695
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to think Josh Allen can survived that. But

696
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: let's hear from you. We want to hear from you.

697
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: On the Twitter poll, forty six percent of you say

698
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Josh Ellen is your choice, that's who you want to

699
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: start in the season opener. On the Twitter poll, thirty

700
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: three percent of you, A third of you say A. J.

701
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: McCarron is the guy you want to be your starter.

702
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: Eighteen percent say Nathan Petermant. We just threw other in

703
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: there just to make a laugh. Yeah, because it's gonna

704
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: be one of those three. Wanted to be me and you.

705
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: But all right, so we're getting we're getting a lot

706
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: of feedback from it, And here's a really good one

707
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: from Postman Pilot Allan. He wants it to be Josh Allen,

708
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: you learn by doing, not watching. He needs to show

709
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: maturity slash win over his teammates. Why wait due to

710
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: a bad supporting cast? And that's been one of the

711
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: arguments as well, Why wait due to a bad supporting

712
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: cast By the time we gather skill guys, this defense

713
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: won't require him to do much to score much and

714
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: this defense could be gone by that time time. It's

715
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: a cesaw with the offense and the defense is who's

716
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: going to carry the football team? And while you've got

717
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: this good defense, maybe you can go with a young

718
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: quarterback and not score that many points. And that's you know,

719
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: that's a yeah. There's a lot of thought processes in

720
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: that in that twitter, and we've talked about all of them.

721
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: You know that the Bills have been criticized by it

722
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: because they don't have a top flight number two wide

723
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: receiver behind Calvin Benjamin. Uh Jeremy Curley is is experienced

724
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: but not dynamic. Uh maybe dependable will be the best

725
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: word to describe him. Uh Leshaun McCoy. With the things

726
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: that have happened in the last couple of weeks. It

727
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: looks like that's gonna go away. Uh, and he's gonna

728
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: show up. He's not on a list, he's not gonna

729
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: be suspended. There's been no allegations. He hasn't been implicated

730
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: in the ill see, but we'll see. But but all

731
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: of that's on the table. But if he's in that,

732
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: he's if he's in the fold um, certainly there's one guy.

733
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: He was fourth in the league in rushing last year

734
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: at the age of twenty nine. So yeah, they've been

735
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: accused of not putting enough good pieces around Josh Allen.

736
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: The offensive line is gonna have some new faces, although

737
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: one or two of them may be upgrades. We'll see.

738
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of question marks on the offensive side

739
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: of the football. There's a lot of reason for optimism

740
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football. Is that the

741
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: time to throw in a rookie quarterback, no matter how

742
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: high you draft him. That's a good question there, Murph,

743
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: You know what, that's a good question, And now I'm

744
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: making the argument for the other side. The schedule, three

745
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: of the first four on the road, five of the

746
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: first seven on the road, some difficult opponents, you know,

747
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: at Minnesota, at Green Bay, on the road at Houston.

748
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: Pretty good defense. That's a that is an argument for saying,

749
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: let's go with the veteran who's played a little bit before.

750
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: But I'm not going I'm not going with that argument.

751
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: But I can understand why people might say that I

752
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: got a call on the line from Connecticut and I'm sorry,

753
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't have your name, but the caller from Connecticut

754
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: and who am you speaking with? Mike, Thanks for joining us, Mike. Yeah.

755
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: So I think based on the schedule, the offensive line,

756
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: and the lack of wide receivers, m I want Age

757
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: mccaren to start, just because I think if we throw

758
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and you know, that offensive line fails him,

759
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna get lit up like a Christmas tree and

760
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: he might potentially get injured. I mean, you know, obviously

761
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: it's speculation. If you put mccaren in just to kind

762
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: of right the ship for the first seventy weeks and

763
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: see where we're at, then maybe you can put Allen

764
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: in mid season, or keep Allen on the bench for

765
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: the whole first year, start him year two. I mean,

766
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: I look at you know, Brett Fahart, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers.

767
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure all of them didn't start their first year.

768
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: They sat, learned the system, and then they were you know,

769
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: put into it. And I'm hoping they do that with

770
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen because I think he could really, you know,

771
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: be our franchise quarterback. I just hate to see him

772
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: go in week one and then it's just going to

773
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: spiral out of control. Well, I would hate to say

774
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: that too. I don't know that it will. But Mike,

775
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: the one question and I would ask, is what wouldn't

776
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen benefit more in his long term development if

777
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: he played as a rookie. There's no Steve said it,

778
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: There's no substitute for the actual experience. I get learning

779
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: the system means something to figuring out when you go

780
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: to meetings, how do you take notes? How do you

781
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: watch video? That's all value in that. But I think

782
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: he'd benefit more long term by playing as a rookie,

783
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't he? Well I don't. I don't think so, because

784
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: the game is gonna be much faster than what he

785
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: played in Wyoming, and I think he needs to sit

786
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: on the bench and kind of take it all in. Plus,

787
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: that offensive line scares me so what good is it

788
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: throwing him in there if he's going to potentially get

789
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, lit up and then injured. I want I'm injured. Yeah, Mike,

790
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. Do you like what Kansas City

791
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: did with Patrick Mahomes and let him sit behind Alex

792
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Smith and now then they just traded Alex Smith, took

793
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: every obstacle away from Mahomes and they gave the team

794
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: to him in the offseason. You like that kind of

795
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: plan better? I mean, or like, would you in Dorset

796
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: that playing for the Buffalo Bills that the Chiefs took

797
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: last year and with Mahomes? I would? Um? I think

798
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Mahomes to be honest, I'm going to draft Mahomes and

799
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: all my fantasy football this year because all the leagues

800
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm in, I think is going to really do well.

801
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: And I think that sitting on the bench for a year,

802
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: learning the system, you know, being coached by Andy Reid,

803
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: is only going to help him this year. And Andy

804
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: Reid's already told him, you know, you go out there

805
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: and fire away, don't play conservatively. And I think that's

806
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: what we could be telling Josh Allen a year from

807
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: now rather than six weeks you know, into the season

808
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: he's injured, or you know, had a Nathan Peterman type

809
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: game and we had a bencham. That would be a disaster.

810
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: I get why people want to play him right away,

811
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, I want to see him on the field, too,

812
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: But I just think it would behoove the organization to

813
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: wait at least eight weeks, if not the whole year

814
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: until we start them. All right, thanks, That's and that's

815
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: I think that's the predominant mindset. We see the comparison

816
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: to him Holmes in Kansas City, the obvious big difference

817
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: is Alex Smith. Alex Smith doesn't play here even this year,

818
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: or nobody like him plays here. So that's why you

819
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: might be more inclined to throw Josh Allen in there.

820
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: Kansas City was a legitimate playoff you know team going

821
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: into last year and started out on fire last year. Actually,

822
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they were six and oz and they were

823
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: there and they were crushing everybody. Remember what they did

824
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: on opening day against I'll never forget what they did.

825
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: Nobody does that to New England on opening Day. I

826
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: wonder if if has anybody ever asked Andy Reid, had

827
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: they not started out like that, do you think we

828
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: would have seen Mahomes earlier last year. I think that

829
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I don't know. I don't know

830
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Alex Smith as a priest. It depends on Alex Smith.

831
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: It would have been Alex Smith's fault maybe. And the

832
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: more we talk about this about how that Kansas City

833
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: scenario last year relates to the Buffalo Bills situation this year,

834
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: the more I'm kind of inclined to say, you know,

835
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: it sounds nuts, but here's what I think. Throw If

836
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna put Josh Allen in there, and here's what

837
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: you have to do. You have to tell him and

838
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: prepare him for failure. You know it's gonna go badly

839
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: at certain points. You know it's gonna but every week

840
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: you gotta say, listen, don't worry about it. Think about

841
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: the next game. What did you learn from playing so badly?

842
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: What'd you learn from this mistake that mistake? What did

843
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: you learn here? Let's work on it. You've got to

844
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: be willing to hang in there with him and support him,

845
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: because it's gonna get dark for him pretty quick at times.

846
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: At times, he's going to be very dark. And there

847
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: are gonna be times when and we had him on

848
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: he and the kid who got drafted by the Jets,

849
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Speaker 1: what's his Darnald. He and Sam Darnold had a friendship

850
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: that developed this last offseason before the draft, and they

851
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: went to visit Bill Parcels, and Parcels said this to

852
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: both of them. He's and he related this. Josh Allen

853
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: related this. He goes, Listen, there's gonna be a time

854
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: you're not an NFL quarterback until you get crushed thirty

855
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: five to ten, and it your fault. You got to

856
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 1: get back in the huddle and play the next week

857
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: and win everybody back. That's your job as an NFL quarterback.

858
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: That's what you've got to be willing to go through.

859
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: An organization, a coaching staff, a team, and a fan

860
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: base and an organization. You've got to be willing to

861
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: let Josh Allen go out there and struggle mightily, but

862
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: help him get better the next week because of that failure.

863
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: And if you're willing to do that every week for

864
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: seventeen weeks during a regular season and beyond, if that happens,

865
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: you've got to be if you're willing to do that,

866
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: do it. Throw him out there, because it's gonna take

867
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: week after week after week after week of bad decisions

868
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: and throws and stupid mistakes to get there, And I

869
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: just say, we got to get to a break here.

870
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Why not start that process now? Why wait until next year?

871
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: Because if he doesn't play this year, if as the

872
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: caller Mike in Connecticut suggested, maybe he doesn't even play

873
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: at all until next year, then you're going into the

874
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: next year in the same boat. Right, Well, we're gonna

875
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: have to suffer through the first snaps of a first

876
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: year quarterback. That's why I say it that way. If

877
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: you're willing to do that, do it now? Yeah, do

878
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: it now. If you're willing to suffer through week after

879
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: week of bad play and knowing that maybe a J.

880
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: McCarron probably wouldn't have made those All we needed was

881
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: one throw and we'd have been winning these games. If

882
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: you're willing to suffer through and then stick him back

883
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: out there the next week, yeah, throw him out there.

884
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: But you're gonna do that. Who do you want now?

885
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Who do you predict? Who do you want to be

886
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: the bill starting quarterback? In the opener in Baltimore September ninth,

887
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the fold signed his contract today. Give

888
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: us a call let us know what you think. Eight

889
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty total three one eight eight

890
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Will read some more

891
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: your tweets as well off the tweet sheet. One Bills

892
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

893
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Orchard Park. One Bills Live from One

894
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive today. One Bills Live from Bill's training camp tomorrow.

895
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: And last week, Jim Kelly at his camp, his one

896
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: day clinic at Saint John Fisher College, talked about how

897
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: he needed a return visit to his oncologist and his

898
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: cancer people in New York for what he's what did

899
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: he call it? A couple of things have come up right. Well,

900
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: apparently he's there today and it looks like good news.

901
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: His wife Jill Kelly putting out on Instagram earlier this

902
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: hour a report on Jim's condition today and I think

903
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: we have that, uh yeah, Jim Kelly and the Bills

904
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: retweeted Bill say double thumbs up MRI and CT scans

905
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: are clear, no evidence of cancer. And Jim Kelly and

906
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: the Instagram post that's Danny Kelly alongside Joe Kelly said

907
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: double thumbs up MRI and CT scans are clear. Still

908
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: working through major pain management, but Praise the Lord, no

909
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: evidence of cancer. Yeah. That's the thing that in my

910
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: communications with Jim, even when the cancer is not there

911
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: with one of the and you know, it's one of

912
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: the things that's bothered him obviously has been the pain.

913
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: He's had some pain. These surgeries he's gone through, have

914
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: been made, and the recovery hasn't been easy. And the

915
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: thing that has always been the signal for both good

916
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: and bad news or another step that needs to be taken,

917
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: has been the pain that he's had to deal with.

918
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: And that's you know, you hate to hear that, but

919
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: I think some of the stuff that he's talked about

920
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: coming up was probably he's started to have some pain again,

921
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: and then that's you know, you can't imagine him after

922
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: all he's been through with the surgeries and they've been extensive.

923
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: That he's now that he's still cancer free is awesome

924
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: to hear. So Joe Kelly puts out on Instagram today,

925
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: mri CT scans are clear, no evidence of cancer. That's

926
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: really good news. Abunt Jim. We're talking about another Bill's quarterback,

927
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and the other two Nathan Peterman and A. J. Mccaron.

928
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Who do you want to be the opening day starter? Now?

929
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: Who do you predict? Who do you want? Give us

930
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: a call? Eight oh three five fifty or toll free

931
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty? What

932
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: are you got on the tweet? Cheat there? See? Well

933
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: from Matt Dermotty, hard to say. Just depends on performance

934
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: and ability in the preseason. I the idea of Alan

935
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: sitting behind AJ for at least part of the year,

936
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: but if he's truly the best in camp by a lot,

937
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: then they have to start him. And I think that's true.

938
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: I think if he gives him the best chance to

939
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: win by what he does in training camp, I think

940
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: you do throw him out there. But I, like I

941
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: said a minute ago before the break, this is an

942
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: organization that when you put a young quarterback out there,

943
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: and I think all organizations have kind of come to

944
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: know this. You got to be willing to live with it.

945
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: And because here's what happens, And think about this, what

946
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: happens to your organization. If Josh Allen goes out there,

947
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: struggles a little bit, they lose a game because of him,

948
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: And it's the kind of stuff kind of goes sideways

949
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: on him, to say the least, and then they pull him. Well,

950
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: then now where yeah, you got Aj McCarron and there,

951
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: or Nathan Peterman in there, whoever else you put in there, Well,

952
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: when does he come back? Then you're then and then

953
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: you go in. You're down a rabbit hole that you

954
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: may never emerge from. It's going to be an ongoing

955
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: thing where you did at once pull him out again

956
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: he threw an interception in the first quarter, get him

957
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: out and try and win this game. Well, then you

958
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: forget about his progress and the fact that you're going

959
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: to support him. So that's that's one issue. If he

960
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: does go out there, you got to be willing to

961
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: struggle with him, and that's that's the big question, because

962
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: then you got to start thinking about your locker room.

963
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: Then you gotta start thinking about a defense that may

964
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: be playing well enough to win games, and they're in

965
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: the locker room going to listen, we should we could

966
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: be winning these games if AJ was playing. Then you

967
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: lose the locker room. Then you lose them. Then the

968
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: team goes south, you go sideways, and Josh Allen will

969
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: never be a bottle of times effective Buffalo Bill oftentimes

970
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: mean players are wrong about that, You know what I mean, Hey,

971
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: we win if this guy was playing that this here's

972
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: the thing I wouldn't. I don't know if that's I

973
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: would pay attention to the sentiment in my locker room.

974
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I would take my cues

975
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: from my locker room if I were a coach. You

976
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: know that's true. But whether the right or wrong, you

977
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: still lose them. Yeah, you know, they don't want to

978
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: play for you anymore. And that's that's a problem. That's

979
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: a problem. Here's a tweet from Mark End which is

980
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: similar sentiment. He says, like most, I am dying to

981
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: see Josh Allen get the opportunity to become the beast

982
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: we are hoping he can be. That being said, however,

983
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I believe aj or Peterman should start the season. Give

984
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: Josh the time to really acclimate to the NFL and

985
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: this new offensive system. Well that's the argument, you know,

986
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: give him time. We'll see I think. Look again, I'm

987
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: going to repeat what I said at the top of

988
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: the show about an hour ago. I would love it

989
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen is ready to start September nine in Baltimore,

990
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: because it would mean he's had a good training camp,

991
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: that he is demonstrated that he belongs in the league

992
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: through four strong training camp or preseason games and a

993
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: strong camp. And I don't want to throw him out

994
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: there if he's not ready. I'm not saying, you know,

995
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: cover your eyes and throw him in there, but I'm

996
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: hoping that he's ready to go September ninth, and I

997
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: think it'd be the best hossible solution for the Bills

998
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: to have him ready to go in Baltimore. I agree

999
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: with you. Here's the thing, and I've said this from

1000
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: the word go, the guy who gives you the best

1001
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: chance to win has to play. And you owe that

1002
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: to your team, to the players in the locker room.

1003
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: Who are you know this? It's a it's a risky business.

1004
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: You know. If you want them to lay their their

1005
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: careers and their their you know, health on the line

1006
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: to win games, you got to give them the best chance.

1007
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: In other places, on both sides of the football, you

1008
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: can't give you know, you you got to give your

1009
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: team the best chance to win, and that means picking

1010
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: the right guy. And there's no question that if Josh

1011
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: Allen gives you that best chance he's got to be

1012
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: the guy. Um and that's that's just the way it's

1013
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: going to be. But the simple fact of the matter

1014
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: is usually these things are a little bit of gray

1015
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: area in there, and that's where you have to make

1016
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: a call. As as a coaching staff is Josh Allen

1017
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: and his development, does that supersede the success that aj

1018
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: or Nathan have there? Is that supersede their opportunity to

1019
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe be more successful because of their experience. That's a

1020
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: that's a that's a big gray area there, and you

1021
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: got to make a call. And as and as fans,

1022
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: we're all we all make the call easy. I mean,

1023
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: we make it every day. And but the problem is

1024
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: we can flip flop like Murph and I do exactly

1025
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: and hope no one notices, right, I mean, we can

1026
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: flip flop no way, because we don't have to actually

1027
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: feel a team right well, you know, so we don't

1028
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: have to put the head you know, we have our

1029
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: earpiece and we don't have to put headsets on the sideline, right,

1030
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: so we can you know, we can go back and

1031
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: forth at a moment's notice that you know, you can't

1032
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: do that. You gotta go with it, right and we'll

1033
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: continue to flip flop. We'll talk more about this next hour,

1034
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: more on the quarterback question, who do you want to

1035
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: be the starter? When the Bills line up to play

1036
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: in Baltimore September ninth. We'll take more phone calls, more

1037
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: tweets on that. Plus we're gonna talk about the move

1038
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: to Fisher and what goes into it. Jeff Missourich, who

1039
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: is the Buffalo Bills Director of Equipment Operations, joins us

1040
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: next hour to discuss some of that. Come on back,

1041
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

1042
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Balo Bills Radio Network. Storyop date updates

1043
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. It was just about three months

1044
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: ago that Josh Allen was selected by the Bills in

1045
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: the draft. Today he signed his rookie contract. It comes

1046
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: as players are reporting to training camp today. Allan is

1047
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: the high as drafted quarterback in franchise history. Bills made

1048
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: in the seventh overall pick last spring. Will be part

1049
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: of a three way quarterback competition with veteran A J.

1050
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: McCarron and second year man Nathan Peterman. The Josh Allen

1051
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: signing means the entire Bills trap class is now under contract.

1052
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: According to spottrac dot com. The deal is for just

1053
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: over twenty one million dollars over four years, including a

1054
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Speaker 1: thirteen and a half million dollar signing bonus. Bills players

1055
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Speaker 1: reporting today nineteenth year of camp at Saint John Fisher College.

1056
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Players checked in this morning. Conditioning tests scheduled on the

1057
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Speaker 1: field this afternoon, and then meetings all day and into

1058
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: the night. Tomorrow is the first day on the practice

1059
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: field of five to thirty pm practice. It is one

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Speaker 1: of the ticketed practices at camp this year. Ticket information

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Speaker 1: camp schedule available on the website Buffalo Bills dot com

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Our show will be there starting at

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Speaker 1: twelve noon tomorrow for our first day of training camp coverage.

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Speaker 1: The first overall pick in the draft, present and account

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Speaker 1: of for when the Cleveland Browns open camp Thursday. Quarterback

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00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield signed a four year contract last night. It

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00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: slotted at thirty two and a half million dollars. Is

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Speaker 1: the eighth of the nine Browns draft picks to sign,

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Speaker 1: remaining his quarterback Denzel Ward taking fourth overall. Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: are planning on Andrew Luck who missed last season. We're

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Speaker 1: coming from a right shoulder injury to play in their

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Speaker 1: preseason opener. Head coach Frank Reich said that today Luck

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Speaker 1: reported a training camp, will practice Thursday and Friday before

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Speaker 1: taking Saturday off, and he will practice Sunday. The Colts

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Speaker 1: open their preseason schedule on the road against Seattle on

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Speaker 1: August nine. Tennessee Titans offensive tackle Taylor Luan, held out

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Speaker 1: a mandatory mini camp in hopes of landing a new contract,

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00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: will report to their camp on time. According to ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Lwan scheduled to play in a fifth year option worth

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00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: more than nine million dollars. And the Atlanta Falcons signed

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00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: coach Dan Quinn and general manager Thomas Demetof to a

1082
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: three year contract extension this morning. Both now signed through

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. That is the update from One Bill's Drive,

1084
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. It is our One Bills Live show.

1085
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: We head out to camp tomorrow. I love it when

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00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,959
Speaker 1: we get to the part of the year, Steve, where

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00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: all of the update news is football. You know what

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00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean. That's why there's no I like other sports,

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00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: believe me, but we don't have to look for news.

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00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: There's news all over the NFL today, including right here.

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00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: In Orchard Park. I love that. Yeah, it's a better

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00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: place to be. It's a good place to be. It's

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00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: a good place to be. We've got coming up on

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Speaker 1: this hour in a couple of minutes, Jeff Mazourich, who

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00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: is the Bills director of equipment Operations, who'll be joining

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00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: us live from Saint John Fisher. He's a man who's

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00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: got an all set up out there, is in his

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00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: twenty first season with the Bills. Want to continue our

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00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: discussion with you with the Josh Allen news, the fact

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Speaker 1: that all three quarterbacks are ready to go, ready to

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00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: start their competition tomorrow. It is our Twitter poll. It

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00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: is our topic to start today, not who do you

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00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: expect to be the starting quarterback on September ninth, but

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00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: who do you want to start a quarterback for the

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00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Bills and the season opener and what needs to happen

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00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: for him to win the job. We've sort of missed

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00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: out on some of that. Who do you want and

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00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: what do they have to do to win the job

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00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: or what has to happen? On Twitter, almost half of

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00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: you see you want the rookie Josh Allen forty six percent.

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00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: Thirty three percent of you say you'd prefer if it

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Speaker 1: were a J. McCarron. Seventeen percent say Nathan Peterman, four

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: percent say other, that's our joke, our little gag. What

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00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: do you think give us a call eight h three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Who do you want to

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00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: start a quarterback? Yeah? I think one of the interesting

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00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: things about the whole thing, We've got a lot of

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00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: different takes on this, and I you go down, you

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00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: can see what you want Josh Allen to be the starter,

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00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: and most of them say just because you want him

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00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: to win it, you want him to be that good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think I was thinking about, you know a

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00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: AJ mccarreen you want to beat, You want a J.

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00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Mccarren to start, maybe because you want to play a

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00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: conservative with Josh Allen, that kind of thing. Nathan Peterman

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00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: is all about redemption. Still people want us. I would

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00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: love to see Nathan Peterman get a chance sometime to

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00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: play really good quality time in the NFL and play well.

1130
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: You want that for that kid, you know, after being

1131
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: thrown in there, uh in that in the in the

1132
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: game last year and even in the in the cold

1133
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: game last year in the snow, where you got a

1134
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: chance and when you're not really a great chance because

1135
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: there was a foot of snow on the ground. But

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00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: it's all about redemption for him, and I see that.

1137
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: I would love to see that, because as always great

1138
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: stories to be a part of, and to cover a

1139
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: guy who comes in and struggles so mightily in his

1140
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: first chance to play, to come back and redeem himself

1141
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: at a later day that that would be awesome. I

1142
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: mentioned this to you before on the show, Steve. When

1143
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: I think of Nathan Peterman and his chances, I think

1144
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: there's slim chances, but his chances of being the opening

1145
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: day starter, I never or I rarely think about the

1146
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: Chargers game. That's not my impression of Nathan Peterman. Because

1147
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I've seen him in practice. We have that advantage. I

1148
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: saw him in the Colts game, obviously, he saw him

1149
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: in the playoff game right, a little bit in the

1150
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: playoff game against Jaxonville. It was an aberration. I think

1151
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: the game at the Chargers, right, I mean, he got

1152
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: he had a ball off his fullback's hands, he got

1153
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: knocked around by Joey Bosa, he got rattled and all

1154
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden five picks in the first half. That

1155
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: was a disaster, but not all of his own, making

1156
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: the Colts game not a real way to evaluate any

1157
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: passer with the snow flying the way it did. So

1158
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: there's much more about Nathan Peterman than that Chargers game,

1159
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: but that is the easy go to for most people. Yes,

1160
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: you want redemption for him for that. I want to.

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00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: I want to see more of him, But I don't know.

1162
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: I think in Nathan Peterman and his arm talent, I

1163
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: don't know that he's got what it takes to be

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00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: the guy for this franchise long term. Now, he may

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00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: wind up starting in September ninth. He could. I think

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00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: it's a long job, but he could. But I don't

1167
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: know that he has what I want to see in

1168
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: the potential franchise quarterback. But if he does, it's because

1169
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: he won the competition between the three of them. I mean,

1170
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: and he's gonna practice well. He's done that throughout the

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Speaker 1: early part of his career here in Buffalo. He has

1172
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Speaker 1: practiced extremely well. He has looked good, he's made good decisions,

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Speaker 1: He's done everything the coaches wanted him to do. In fact,

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00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: he's the reason he's here, and you know guys like EJ.

1175
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: Manuel and other guys are not. I mean, he earned it.

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00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: He earned the number two spot last year as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: and that says something about him, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you have this this conversation. We've gone

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Speaker 1: on and on about how it relates to these three

1180
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who's gonna earn? And then we get a lot

1181
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: of tweets on the tweet sheet. Robert Boyer tweeted in

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Speaker 1: whoever earned it, Yeah, is who he wants to start.

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00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: And I get that. Who can argue with that? But

1184
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: here's another way to look at it. And we got

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00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: it in just a few seconds ago. Buffalo Buffalo Wingwar

1186
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: tweets in, and this is a great take. And I

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00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: hadn't thought about this, but it's a great place to

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00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: kind of take your mind to about the opening day.

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00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: We're talking about opening day in Baltimore September ninth, and

1190
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Speaker 1: he says, I want AJ to start the first game.

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00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: Since the Bills are playing Baltimore. AJ sat on the

1192
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: bench and Sincan had to prepare for Baltimore twice a year.

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00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: He should be better prepared for that first game. Depending

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00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: on how AJ does Josh Josh Allen can be worked

1195
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: in after That's a pretty good take. That's an argument.

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00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: That's an argument we're trying to you know, let's face it,

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00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: we all want him to win and to get the

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00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: best chance to win. You got a guy who's got

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Speaker 1: some experience preparing for the team. You're the exact team

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Speaker 1: you're playing on that first day. That there's a there's

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: a second's second level logic for you. Certainly I can

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00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: see that point. I don't know if I'm willing to

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00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: agree with that. But when they sit down in the

1204
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: meeting room, let's say the second to last week of preseason,

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00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: and say let's start looking at Baltimo Ravens, you're gonna

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00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: have a guy in that meeting room. Is the guy

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00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: who's the ton who's seen him a lot. Benn in

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00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: meetings about knows the personnel would probably sit there and say, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore likes to do this in these situations, right, what

1210
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: they do? Why here? What check this out? Yeah, that's question.

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Speaker 1: That's a very good point. That's a great point. Yeah,

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00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: here's a call from a Dug in Lockport. Doug, who

1213
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: do you want to start a quarterback in the season opener,

1214
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: But well, I wanted to be Josh Allen, you know,

1215
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we've invested a lot in this guy, and

1216
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: we've been waiting and waiting and wait, you know, I

1217
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: think these other two guys kind of are what they are.

1218
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, aj is a veteran backup. We're paying him

1219
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: like that, you know. Obviously, maybe it's a little more

1220
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Speaker 1: if he starts, but uh, Peterman what he is, a

1221
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: fifth rounder, he's dirt cheat. He's looked good. Obviously had

1222
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: a little rough start, but he's looked good lately, you know.

1223
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: But I think they are what they are. So I

1224
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: want Allen to win the job so that, you know,

1225
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Speaker 1: if he after, we can go to those veterans and

1226
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: then know, maybe Alan can learn from what he experienced

1227
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: he got and I want those veterans to play because

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00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard this before. I'm not sure it

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00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: matters who starts this year if our record will change

1230
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: that much, because you know, I mean they're all you know,

1231
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Alan's probably not can play his best football right from

1232
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: the get go. We'd love it to be the case,

1233
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Speaker 1: but you know that might be true for this year.

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00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: So it's for him to win the job and really

1235
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Speaker 1: run with it and be like Deshaun Watson. Right Like,

1236
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: So last year Deshaun Watson did not start from day one?

1237
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: Am I correct? So that's correct. I would bet Houston

1238
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: probably in hindsight, which is that they had right. Um,

1239
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: you know Carson Wentz who he's been compared to, Alan's

1240
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: been compared to it and coached by the same guy.

1241
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's the model I'm hoping for. A guy

1242
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, he made take some lumps his first year,

1243
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: he learns a lot. Next year he's playing like an

1244
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: MVP before he got hurt. So so that's what I'm

1245
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: hoping for. Anyway, all right, we got it? What do

1246
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? And I can see that Deshaun Watson

1247
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: didn't start the year last year in Houston. When he

1248
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: did get in, they were they were running it up.

1249
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: They were scoring thirty points a game and their defense

1250
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: was number one in the league and their offense was

1251
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: scoring more points than anybody in the league. When Deshaun

1252
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: Watson took over, and then JJ Watt gets hurt, Deshaun

1253
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: Watson goes down in a non contact drill in practice

1254
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: and they lose him for the season and they lost

1255
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: their season as well. So you don't really want to

1256
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: be like that. But I see the point. You want

1257
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: to give him a chance to get used to it

1258
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, And I would say that

1259
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: that is a pretty pretty good scenario to look at

1260
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. Now, Watson started Week two, I

1261
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: just right, but one not Week one. And the guy

1262
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: that they had ahead of him, yeah, Tom Savage, And

1263
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: you can make it occasionally Tom Savage is AJ McCarron.

1264
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna do? But but the

1265
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: fact that and the tweet I just read about, Hey,

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00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: AJ's got some experience. He's played against the Baltimore Colts,

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Speaker 1: are seeing the Baltimore Ravens a ton in his career.

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00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: He's be experienced by him. He'll know those faces over

1269
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: the Maybe that is a good Week one. Start with

1270
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: AJ and then flip it like you did two Deshaun Watson.

1271
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: Let him watch for a week, see them schedule, see

1272
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: what you gotta do to watch film and all that,

1273
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: and then put him in. I don't know. I mean,

1274
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: if that's your theory, then do you go with Nathan

1275
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: Peterman week two against the Chargers. He's not the Charger,

1276
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: not twice a year for four years from Jeff. That's cool.

1277
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: Jeff is on the line from Fort Plane. Where's Fort Plane? Jeff, Hi, John,

1278
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: and Steve, thanks for taking my call. Fort Plane is

1279
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: just west of all Buney between utic and a great

1280
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: great all right, thanks for coming on with us today.

1281
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. Really, I'd like to see

1282
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: start the first game. I'd like to see whoever the coaches,

1283
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: Coach McDermott and the other coaches feel that are going

1284
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: to win the game. Wo Jeffer quarterback they feel after

1285
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: six weeks of training camp in preseason it's going to

1286
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 1: bring in a win. That's who I like to see

1287
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: play the first game. I'd love to see Josh Allen

1288
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: get in, whether it's one week, two weeks into the season,

1289
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: or or if it takes nine weeks or maybe even

1290
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: next year. I'd like to see Josh in here. But

1291
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: I want for or wins with the Bills, And really

1292
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust the coaches and I'd like to see

1293
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: them put in the quarterback after preseasons who they feel

1294
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: is going to bring us in a win. So, Jeff,

1295
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: are you the mind too that all this competition and

1296
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: stuff and all the future of the franchise. Whatever Josh

1297
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: Allen might turn into, all that takes a back seat

1298
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: to who's gonna play this week and who's gonna win

1299
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: this week? Right, Yeah, I believe so. So here's the thing.

1300
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: Are you gonna when it gets to the point where

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01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's time for him to play? Are you gonna

1302
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: be willing to suffer through some bad games for him?

1303
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: Knowing that maybe there's a guy on the bench in

1304
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman or a j McCarron who might not make

1305
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: those mistakes but might not give you the high end.

1306
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, are you willing when Josh Allen does get

1307
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: a chance to play, are you wanting to suffer? Ye?

1308
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: We're willing to suffer. He's gonna have to He's gonna

1309
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: have to learn by doing, and when the coaches feel

1310
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: it's the right time to put him in, put him in.

1311
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: And he might go through a few learning experiences. Well,

1312
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: who might see one or two or maybe even three losses.

1313
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: But if he's showing improvement, Lee Minner, because I think

1314
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: he's got the ability and I think he's gonna be

1315
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: a guy as the future. Great. Thanks Jeff, Jeff as

1316
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: a team player. Jeff from fort Plainever, the coaches say, yeah, right,

1317
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: And I'm also unwilling to trust the decision of you know,

1318
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Brian day Bole and and the rest

1319
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I agree. I mean, and that's the

1320
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: thing too. And I think, you know what, what do

1321
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: we expect from them? Do we expect him to do that?

1322
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 1: Do we expect them to say, Okay, no matter, listen,

1323
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: We're just gonna go with the guy that gives us

1324
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. We're gonna go because we

1325
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: feel like Aj is going to be a steadying influence.

1326
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna miss some big plays because of his athletic limitations,

1327
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: but at least we're not gonna look silly. Yeah, and

1328
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen goes out there, we may have a

1329
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: chance to see him throw a sixty five yard bomb

1330
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: for a touchdown in the fourth quarter when we're down

1331
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: by thirty two, But we're probably gonna look silly at

1332
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: most of the time, most of the game. I mean,

1333
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: are you willing you think they're gonna be willing to

1334
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: make that call? I mean, what do you do? I mean,

1335
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: I exaggerate both those ends of both those spectrums to

1336
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: make it a clearer point. But do you do you

1337
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: just go out there and I hope you can compete

1338
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: and maybe sneak out a win with a guy who

1339
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: you know won't embarrass you at any point. Or do

1340
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: you throw a rookie out there who may be in

1341
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: a month because you play him this week in a

1342
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: month might be throwing five touchdowns and for three hundred

1343
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: and sixty yards a game and be all of that.

1344
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean, do you which one of those? Do you go?

1345
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's a good call, It's a great question.

1346
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: That's why it's a question of that day. I want

1347
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: to see, you know, And that's yeah, that's the question though,

1348
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: because you know that. But here's the thing too. Even

1349
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: you play a J mccaren, he's gonna struggle. Sure, they're

1350
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: all gonna struggle. AJ won't look, Maybe won't look, Maybe

1351
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: will Maybe AJ goes out there and throws three picks.

1352
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's not gonna look, he's not gonna look,

1353
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, Joe montanalike, first doubting, I mean, right, yeah,

1354
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: so you're gonna this offense has low expectations to begin with,

1355
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: even if Tyrod was here. You're right, right, you're right,

1356
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: So what are you really giving up if you throw

1357
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen out there and just kind of hang in

1358
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: there with him and support him and make sure he

1359
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: doesn't crumble. Our first look at the quarterback competition tomorrow

1360
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: at five thirty, all three of them will be there.

1361
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: You're not gonna answer my question. No, Well, he got

1362
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: a guess waiting now, right, I want to get to him.

1363
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: He's in his twenty first year with the Buffalo Bills.

1364
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: He's the director of equipment operations. He's got the whole

1365
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: operation down the road at Saint John Fisher College right now.

1366
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Mazourich joined us on the line. Jeffis John Murphy

1367
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker in Buffalo. Thanks for being on with us, Hey, guys,

1368
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: glad to be with you. Yeah, thanks, nineteen seasons now

1369
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: at Fisher you're twenty one, twenty first year or with

1370
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: the team old hatters. Every present different challenges, trying to

1371
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: get set up down there, a little bit of both.

1372
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean, something always comes up that you know you

1373
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: don't expect. But twenty some years now, I've kind of

1374
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: think I've seen mostly everything thrown at me. But um, yeah,

1375
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: there's things that come up. But um we take a

1376
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: fleet of you know trucks out that you know, Corrigan

1377
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: Moving Systems helps us with and it's been great. Setup.

1378
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: We moved out here on Thursday last week. Wow, um,

1379
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: players stuff, um, and then we finished up pretty much

1380
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: yesterday with getting all the coaches lockers, their offices out here,

1381
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: all my field equipment. UM. Yeah, it's quite the process,

1382
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: but UM, yeah, it's it's been fun. It really has. Yeah,

1383
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: you're not you're you're not just talking to me when

1384
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: people say equipment. You're not just talking about helmets and

1385
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: shoulder pads. You're talking about office equipment. You're talking about

1386
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: printers and desks and all of that stuff, let alone

1387
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: all the stuff you need for football. Right, Yeah, what's

1388
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: the doubt? I mean we pretty much we pretty much

1389
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: bring everything we can so the coaches and the scouts

1390
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: have everything as close to it set up wise back

1391
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: an Orchard Park for here. Um, you know, we came

1392
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: out with eighteen total trucks. You're looking at six six

1393
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: fifty foot trailers, about twelve twenty six foot straight trucks

1394
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: and that's just like my department, UM, the Video Operation,

1395
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: Athletic Trainers, UM Sports Performance, and then two whole flatbeds

1396
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure people saw him coming down the ninety with

1397
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: all of our our sleds for field equipment that the

1398
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: guys hit, um the dummies, scoreboards, UM, the big masks,

1399
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: the big mask camps, the video guys use for video

1400
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: that if you know, you come out to camp, if

1401
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: you see these big like boat looking things at the

1402
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: end of the fields, like we had two two trailer

1403
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: loads of those. So I mean it was about what

1404
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: four It took us about four days total to get everything,

1405
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: and you know, it go. It's crazy. But with you know,

1406
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: with my staff and my assistance and our interns that

1407
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: we pretty much from top down, we all work together.

1408
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: You know, I just don't I just don't move my department.

1409
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: We helped the trainers, we helped the video guys that ops.

1410
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: Like it's all hands on deck and you know, it's

1411
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 1: just it's amazing, but it gets done. You know, Yeah,

1412
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: you've got a staff that's with you full time year around.

1413
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: But I know too, a couple of my guy my

1414
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: son's interned with you over a couple of summers and

1415
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: give an idea of how like you have it I

1416
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: handle on how many staff you've got and kind of

1417
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: give us an idea of like percentage wise, how much

1418
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: inflated every the staffs are with interns and training camp personnel.

1419
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: How inflated does the staff and everybody outside the roster

1420
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: of the team. How much does that inflate for training camp? Yeah,

1421
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: no it does. I mean when I first started, it

1422
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: was three of us and about a handful of we

1423
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: were called ballboys back then, the Fredonia days. But you know,

1424
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: I have three, I have three full time assistants that

1425
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: are phenomenal for me, and then I have this year,

1426
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: we have about twelve interns. And some of those guys

1427
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: work you know, for the for the school and also

1428
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: for the football team, so they're kind of in and out.

1429
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: But training staff, same thing. I mean, it's gone up.

1430
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: You know, you're looking at each football department probably has

1431
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: like eight interns, four full time employees. I think each

1432
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: year you get like the sports performance staff that we

1433
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: have now has grown quite a bit over the offseason video. Um,

1434
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: you know you got marketing interns out here as well. Yeah,

1435
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. Yeah, Hey, Jeff, Saint John Fisher College

1436
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: is a pretty pretty good, pretty accomplished Division three football

1437
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: team under Paul Osburg. Can can you utilize any of

1438
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: their equipment or do you have to bring all of

1439
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: your own stuff When it comes to workout machines that

1440
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: sort of thing, um we use. I believe Eric and

1441
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: the guys in the weight room use some of their machines,

1442
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I even left them out.

1443
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 1: We brought two trailer fulls of our weight room equipment

1444
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: from Orchard Park here. I mean to keep it to

1445
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: keep it as normal for our guys, so that, like

1446
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: I said, when they come in, it's pretty much other

1447
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: than just being in a different location. But um, now,

1448
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: actually we pretty much bring We bring all of our

1449
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: field equipment, our sound system from Orchard Park that we

1450
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: use that the fans will hear, you know that coach

1451
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: like the music for practice and for for warm ups

1452
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: and stuff like That's. Yeah, everything pretty much here that

1453
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: you see out at practice we bring with us to

1454
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: Orchard Park and we'll bring some of that back with

1455
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: us Friday night for the for the practice in the

1456
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: new air field as well. So yeah, that was the

1457
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: other question I had. It's not as if you will

1458
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: only be practicing there for the next three weeks or so.

1459
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: You got a practice, yeah, you got road trips in here,

1460
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: and you got to practice backer an Orchard Park a

1461
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: week from Friday, right, a week from this friday. Yeah,

1462
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: we finished the move yesterday and my two movers, Russ

1463
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: and Chris mccorgan, we're like, hey, so want to do

1464
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: next third? You know, next Thursday? What are we going

1465
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: to do? Truck wise? I'm like, next Thursday, what's you know?

1466
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: And just because you try to keep as much as

1467
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: you can day to day, but like I mean, yeah,

1468
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: like so we're playing that out, Like I've already playing

1469
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: uniforms out for the first like two games, trying to

1470
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: get you know, as soon as we get our roster

1471
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: like that stuff's already. So we try to in the

1472
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: equipment department, I try to stay me and my staff

1473
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Speaker 1: at least two three weeks some week, sometimes four weeks

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Speaker 1: ahead of the schedule, so that you know, we're prepared

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Speaker 1: for if, you know, anything were to happen. Even we

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01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: even tape. We have a I have a sixty yard

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01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: field and our indoor gym here that we tape that

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Speaker 1: we we use athletic tape. My interns laid it out.

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Speaker 1: It's like sixty yard field. We use ninety rolls of tape.

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01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: We got like the stencil numbers in there, so you know, um,

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Speaker 1: if we have to use the if we have to

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: go in there, if coach, you know, in clement weather

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,919
Speaker 1: and we need to finish out like a half hour practice,

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, we can kick the cleeps off and put

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: sneakers on and do a team period in there if

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Speaker 1: we need to. Yeah. So you're in your twentieth season,

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: You've been through a couple of head coaches. What's the

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,480
Speaker 1: biggest change that Sean McDermott has brought with his process

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: of training camp? What you know, what's what's unique about

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff and the way you do things at

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01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher. Yeah, I mean it's been I think

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01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: I think coach is my tenth head coach since I've

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01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: since I've been here. So um, hopefully hopefully Coach and

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01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: Brandon last a long time here. But the biggest thing,

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, Steve is what you guys all see around

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: the building is accountability. Um, you know, teamwork, effort, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and he definitely does a great job as you know,

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Speaker 1: as much as he can of you know, not just

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01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: recognizing what you know the players do at practice, but

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Speaker 1: you know, post practice, he may bring a staff member

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01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: up that he sees really busting and have practice and

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01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: has them break down the team like as far as

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you know family, like you know,

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01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: everyone in you know, and then just you know, like

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01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: he says, respecting the process and you know, doing what

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: we need to do, you know, on our roles. Like

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: even you know, we had team meeting this afternoon that

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01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: we had to you know, speak in front of and

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01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, we tell the guys like this is you

1510
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: know what we have policy wise, But at the end

1511
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: of the day, like me and my staff, we're here

1512
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: to help, you know, support the players, the coaches, the

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: scouts and everyone in the building so that we're all

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01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: on you know, one page and you know work towards

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01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: that goal of you know, bringing home that Super Bowl. Well,

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. I know. You got a

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01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: big chunk of it done the last a week or so, Jeff,

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01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: and more to come. We thank you for spending a

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01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: few minutes with us today in the middle of your

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: busy day to talk about it. Thanks, no problem, guys,

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: We'll see We'll see out here tomorrow. I guess right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be here Tomorrow'll be there. Thanks Thanks Jeff. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Jeff massurk Is, the bill director of equipment operations for

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: the twenty first season, joined us on the Subway Fresh

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01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: Take Hotline Subway Eat Fresh. He's great because I know

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01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: him and we see him around the building. So it's

1527
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: like you have these guys on the show and it's like, oh, hey,

1528
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: mur Hey, what's up. Yeah, Hey, what's up Steve. Yeah,

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01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: They're like totally, we're part of the furniture. Yeah. I

1530
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: will say this. It's like a phone call. It's just

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01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: what's going on. I was gonna ask him, and now

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01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: I feel like an idiot. I would say, Jeff, so

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: I know there's at least one truck that moves equipment

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: at one semi truck, right, do you have any more

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01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: than that? Eighteen trucks? I was stunned. I thought maybe

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: a couple eighteen trucks worth of equipment. It's unbelievable. It's

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: unbelievable what the organization does to go over You thought

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: I was. You thought I was because I was saying, like, hey,

1539
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: how often you want to do that? That is not

1540
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: like one truck, right, eighteen semi trucks and like two

1541
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: flatbeds and twenty five straight trucks, all that stuff, and

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01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: it takes them four days. If they do it in

1543
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: four days, yeah, I couldn't. Me and man, everybody I

1544
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: know couldn't load one semi in four days. It's amazing.

1545
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: And when you get out there and you take it

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01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: for granted, right, but he's right. The camera towers that

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01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: they have in the sidelines here for practice, those got

1548
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: to be moved out there. The mobile, the clocks, the

1549
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: scoreboards they use, you know, to measure the time period.

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01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: And everybody thinks, well, Saint John Fisher must have all that,

1551
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: and no, they have it, but I think they want

1552
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 1: it to a certain specification. The NFL they got their own.

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01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: They got their own, and they're going to do that.

1554
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: Throw them on add truck number eighteen. We'll throw the

1555
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: sleds up, right, that's not it's an army. I mean

1556
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: literally the whole campus. They invade the whole campus. I

1557
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,480
Speaker 1: mean to take over dorms. I mean they give everybody's

1558
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: got a room over there, and the doors. Everybody's over there,

1559
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: kind of sleeping on a cop you know. In well,

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: Saint John Fishers got very nice facilities, don't get it wrong,

1561
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: but I mean you and I drive over for our shows,

1562
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: but they got us roomed. We went there and take

1563
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: naps during the day that could have between practices. I mean,

1564
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: they just take care of everybody. Yeah, and they make

1565
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: sure that, you know, if somebody's got a job to

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01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: do over there, they got everything they need to do it.

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. We'll be there tomorrow starting with our

1568
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: first broadcast there tomorrow. We want to hear from you

1569
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. Which quarterback do you want to be the

1570
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: starter for the Bills when the regular season opens? Give

1571
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: us a call, tweet at us. The phone numbers to

1572
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: call eight h three h five fifty. Are you chugging

1573
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: coffee again? How many cups is there for you today?

1574
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: How many cups have you had? Is this number? Four?

1575
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: Or five? Five? Five cups of coffee? This is this

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: is a twelve ounces, so this is a small one.

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01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen trucks is one thing. Five cups of coffee

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01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: is amazing. We're gonna be on the air until midnight tonight.

1579
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: We're back with more one Bills Live from One Bill's

1580
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Coming up at two o'clock

1581
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: today and the show we're gonna kind of take a

1582
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: break from Bill's talking. The Rams have been really interesting, Steve,

1583
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: with the move they made on Todd Gurley, with Aaron

1584
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: Donald sitting out there with um, I mean they're spending money.

1585
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: I read something along the line and I don't think

1586
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: this is a shock. But somebody said, what the Rams

1587
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: are doing is trying to win a Super Bowl while

1588
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: they can still afford the quarterback, right while they can

1589
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: still pay Jared Goffee still on his rookie contract, which

1590
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: makes sense. We're gonna talk with m Vincent Bunsing, your

1591
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: of the LA Daily News covers and Rams. He's an

1592
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: NFL columnist that's coming up at two o'clock today. They're

1593
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: an interesting team. Yeah, and it's it is because you

1594
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: think about what the Rams are doing. Todd Gurley's signing

1595
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: for that huge contract, and then Levion Bell, who was

1596
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: holding out for the Steelers, did not sign the deal

1597
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: and he's gonna make what is a fourteen five this year. Yeah,

1598
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't sign a long term deal because he

1599
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: didn't think it was the right money, and now he's

1600
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: Leveon Bell chimed in on Twitter said hey, I told you,

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: and well, it's kind of getting to the point you

1602
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: think about it, Murph, for the last handful of years

1603
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: at least the running back spot has been devalued. You know,

1604
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't that important as a throwing league and all

1605
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: that stuff like that there, But you know what the

1606
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: league is about trends, and I think the running backs

1607
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: are starting to make a comeback because you've got guys

1608
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: who are becoming hugely important to their offenses, guys like

1609
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: Leshaun McCoy, Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott, Levion Bell, the whole

1610
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: crew there. If you go back and look at you know,

1611
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: the leaders in rushing over the over the last I

1612
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know, well last year even h it's pretty amazing.

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01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. And I got like Kareem Hunt in

1614
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City, uh, mark Ingram in New Orleans. All these

1615
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: guys and the rushing yards aren't hugely impressed. I mean,

1616
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: the top nine guys in the league only had a

1617
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: thousand yards and the top runners only had thirteen or

1618
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: right around thirteen. But they're more and more and more important,

1619
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: particularly if they can stay on the field and three

1620
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: for three downs. Right. You know you used to remember

1621
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: you used to be you had a third down back.

1622
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: You pull guy out, you put a guy in, and

1623
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: you start to specialize those guys. But now they're getting

1624
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: these guys who can stay on the field for three downs,

1625
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: and maybe they are back in vogue. You know, maybe

1626
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: those guys are going to be high draft picks again.

1627
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: Like I think there's some of that. I also think

1628
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: the way the cap has gone up so dramatically every year,

1629
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's why the money gets out of whack.

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 1: I'm not out of whack. It's certainly whack for a Gurley,

1631
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: but for you and me. Yeah, but the money makes

1632
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: sense for these teams because the cap is on up.

1633
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: Something I'm looking for it, I can't find it. One

1634
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven million. There was a great quote

1635
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: from less Sneed, the general manager of the of the Rams,

1636
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: and we'll talk with Vincent boons Your about this, who

1637
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: said something to the effect that I don't even think

1638
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: about prushing up against the cap. Why is that because

1639
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: the cap has gone up so much, they don't worry

1640
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: about it. So you can afford to pay Todd Gurley

1641
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: and get a deal in the works for Aaron Donald

1642
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: and play everybody else you want. Because the cap is

1643
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: known is less of a pactor now that it maybe

1644
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: has ever been for NFL teams. You know what I'm saying,

1645
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: It's gone up so dramatically over the past few years.

1646
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: And you know, you wonder why Roger Goodell keeps his

1647
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 1: job there you have it, it's because they're making money,

1648
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: making money, hand over fist. We just had a story

1649
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: on last week, Murphy might It might have been after

1650
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: during your your wedding thing that every club got a

1651
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: check for two hundred and forty four million, just like here,

1652
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,520
Speaker 1: here's your check for this year's you know, television revenues

1653
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: two hundred four million and the and that's that's just

1654
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 1: from one revenue stream. Forget about signage, concessions, parking, corporate partners, tickets,

1655
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. The caps one seventy seven, So

1656
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 1: you're already seventy million up. Yeah, it's impressive. Hey, I

1657
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: want to talk with you about quarterbacks. Josh Allen signed

1658
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: his contract with the Bills today. He will be there.

1659
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: He is there now as the Bills go through meetings

1660
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: today at Saint John Fisher College. And we want to

1661
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: know from you, who do you want not who do

1662
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: you predict? Who do you want to be the Bill

1663
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: starter on opening day against Baltimore. Give us a call

1664
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty or toll free one eight

1665
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or tweeted to

1666
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: us at one Bills Live. Want to work in a

1667
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: few calls, Let's do that, Paul and Buffalo. Paul, go ahead,

1668
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Yeah, Hi, thanks for taking my call.

1669
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,959
Speaker 1: And I would kind of like to see Nathan Peterman.

1670
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: And he's kind kind of the same things Steve was

1671
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: saying a few minutes ago. Um, but it was a

1672
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: few weeks ago where I was starting to think, you know,

1673
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: we we we like our coach. We we we see

1674
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: his ability to to have a lot of football smarts

1675
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: when it comes to trading and acquiring. And I don't know,

1676
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: I just did. The thought came to my mind that

1677
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: they would really like to know, you know, what they

1678
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: got in Nathan Peterman. And you know, the whole idea

1679
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: is the better quality a player is, the more you

1680
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: can get for that player if they decide to go

1681
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 1: that route, you know, shopping a player. So I think

1682
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: they know what they have in Nathan Peterman, don't you, Steve.

1683
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: I think they know they have a very high quality. Uh,

1684
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: a one guy who is never gonna do anything to

1685
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: embarrass the franchise, who works hard, who is studious and

1686
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: a good student in the game, and also lacks arm talent.

1687
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: His arm is not the best and there are better arms,

1688
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: maybe two better arms, even in camp right now for

1689
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and I think they have a pretty

1690
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: good sense after last year what they have in Nathan Peterman.

1691
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: And I don't think they're writing them off. I think

1692
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: that I do think the door is open for him.

1693
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely that he starts on September ninth,

1694
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: but I don't think they've written him off. Well, you

1695
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: talk about they want to know what they have in

1696
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, They want to know what they got in

1697
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: aj McCarron and Josh Allen. Allen they got to find

1698
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: out about those guys. And I get it. And we

1699
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: don't like to see the redemption of Nathan Peterman because

1700
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: he has proven even in the midst of his the

1701
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: tough start he had last year in San Diego, everybody

1702
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: wants to see a good guy succeed. And the way

1703
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: he handled himself and the way the teammate he is,

1704
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: the things that you hear the coaches and the players

1705
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: say about Nathan Peterman, you you cheer for guys like that.

1706
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: That's and that's not just exclusively to Nathan Peterman. That's

1707
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: the kind of guys they draft, that's the kind of

1708
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: guys they bring in. That's the kind of guys they

1709
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: keep around this building. And that's you know, that's part

1710
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: of the culture here. It's an easy team to cheer

1711
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: for because of guys like Nathan Peterman, because a guy's

1712
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: like Tremaine Edmonds and the guys we and Harrison Phillips,

1713
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: the guys they've drafted have all turned out to be

1714
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: stellar guys. I need cheer for guys like that. In

1715
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: the midst of a quarterback competition, it's hard to pick

1716
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: a horse on the basis of who you like better,

1717
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: because the all three of these guys are um have

1718
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: a lot of nice things about him to say. But

1719
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 1: as far as finding out about them, they got to

1720
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: find out about all of them. I mean, that's that's

1721
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 1: that's job one. That's what this whole thing is about.

1722
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: They got to find out which one can win the

1723
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: most games in their career in the NFL and find

1724
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: out in the next three and a half four weeks.

1725
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Here's a called from Matt and Rochester. Hello, Matt, go ahead,

1726
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: you're on the air of this. How are you doing, guys?

1727
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: Okay ahead, Matt, Hey. I think that I wanted to

1728
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: be Peterman and I definitely think it will be really, really,

1729
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: extremely extremely active grower, an extremely smart guy, can read

1730
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: deep to all around a good guy. I just love

1731
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: the kid. I do, and I don't think he definitely

1732
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: was not giving a fair shake. You can't throw a

1733
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: quarterback in on the road against the defense like that

1734
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: back tipping the ball in the air. Benjamin gets hurt

1735
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: in the first play. It was just a dast end

1736
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: I think he was given a fair shake. I do,

1737
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: And it was a tough it was a tough challenge

1738
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: for him, but it was fair. Look, they didn't like

1739
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: the way their passing game was going with Tyrod. They

1740
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: turned to the rookie on the roster. That's that's fair

1741
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. They did it again when Tyrod

1742
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: got hurt. I think he was given a fair shake.

1743
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: I think he needs another shake and he needs another

1744
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to show what he has. But no, I disagree

1745
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: that he wasn't given a fair shake last year. I

1746
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: think he was well, I think being thrown in on

1747
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: the road against that defense. Yeah, it was a fair shake.

1748
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when he got the home crowd behind

1749
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: us and it's not such a big game. Some people look,

1750
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: some people say it's better to start on the road

1751
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: and the Bills are going to that tiny little stadium

1752
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles where the crowd was not intimidating. I

1753
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: mean there are arguments against that too. Yeah, the Chargers

1754
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: defense was really good that day. They got better after

1755
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: that day too. The Chargers came into that game really

1756
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: not a team on fire. You know, they weren't the

1757
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. They weren't even the Los Angeles Rams

1758
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: going into that kid. Yeah, here's what I think about

1759
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: the opportunity. It's it's an It's a good point because

1760
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: we do need to see more from Nate Peterman and

1761
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: the shaky and the opportunity got wasn't big enough or

1762
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: long enough for us to find out. But you go

1763
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: into Los Angeles, you got to think about where the

1764
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: team was at that point they made that switch. Do

1765
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: you think they would have beaten the Chargers if Tyrod

1766
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: would have been playing quarterback? I don't know, if I

1767
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: can say that they would have not with the defense

1768
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: that they played. Chargers. By the way, we're one two, three, four,

1769
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: three wins and six losses going into that game, and

1770
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: they were started the season oh and four. Where was

1771
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: their defense? I don't know, that's a good, that's a good.

1772
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: But their defense was really good. And there's no question

1773
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: that was a tough place to play and because of

1774
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: their defense. But here's the thing, Tyrod. They made the

1775
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: switch at quarter back because the week before Tyrod threw

1776
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: for fifty six yards in an NFL game, and well,

1777
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: they had to do something. He did that continuously. Oh well,

1778
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 1: here's the thing. They in eight of the sixteen games

1779
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: Tyrod played in last year, not a well eight the yeah,

1780
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: eight of the sixteen games he threw for less than

1781
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: two hundred yards. They didn't throw the football well at

1782
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: all last year. And and fans and US guys like

1783
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: us alike will always say or come up with any

1784
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: reason you want, they just didn't throw the football well enough.

1785
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: They made and there's no doubt they rolled the dice

1786
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: last year by trying to play Nate Peterman in that game.

1787
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: But they wanted to do something to get a spark.

1788
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: Now it blew up in their face, no question. But

1789
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: that was the thought going into that game. And as

1790
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: far as Nate Peterman not getting a good enough opportunity,

1791
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: I would say didn't get it a long enough opportunity.

1792
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: But they gave him a shot and it turned out

1793
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: it was against a really good defense that the Bills

1794
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: didn't match up very well against it, and it blew

1795
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: up on him. Say this too, man, and I appreciate you.

1796
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: You can make the point if you believe that. I

1797
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: don't think he didn't get a chance. But here's the

1798
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: bottom line. This year and last year, they don't owe

1799
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman anything. They don't ow him anything they don't know.

1800
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,759
Speaker 1: They don't owe him a chance, another chance, a better chance,

1801
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: a fair shot. They just don't, right, Steve. I mean,

1802
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: it's who's gonna win today. He's got to win next week.

1803
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: That's who. That's who they play. He's got That's what

1804
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: they're looking at. They owe whatever he earns, but he's

1805
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 1: got it. They're starting I think they're starting from a

1806
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: blank slate with the quarterback evaluation this training camp. Not

1807
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: or they have already started with a blank slate. They've

1808
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: already got a month of work in installing and in

1809
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: the OTAs and the mini camp they've all got. They've

1810
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: started to evaluate these guys seriously and with you know,

1811
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: with some criticism and some some some dispassionate evaluation. They've

1812
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: got to make a call about three of these guys,

1813
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: and it's already started. But I think it started from

1814
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: a blank slate Nate Peterman, AJ McCarron and Josh Allen.

1815
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes from here. But that's

1816
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: I think that's where they're at right now. Who do

1817
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: you want to start? A quarterback of the season opener

1818
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: from the tweet Sheet tweet from Wandering Jack, frequent contributor,

1819
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: He says, my heart is looking to the future for

1820
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: the Bills and wants Josh Allen to show he's ready

1821
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: and win the job and be the franchise guy. But

1822
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: I bet Allen will need time to learn and the

1823
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: staff will not want to rush their investment. Therefore, I

1824
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: bet mccarroen wins the gig for at least half of

1825
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Well, Jack, Wandering Jack, we've been talking about

1826
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: who you want. He answered that question, and you also

1827
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: let us know who you're betting not, And I think

1828
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: You're probably right on both counts. I want Josh Allen.

1829
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: I would bet that it'll be a j McCarron, as

1830
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: you say, for half a season. I don't know about that,

1831
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: but I think for the opener September ninth, for sure

1832
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: almost And there's a there's a lot in the tweet sheet. Um,

1833
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: did you, Jeff did you read this? Jeff zile Kowski?

1834
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Did you read that one? Let me hear you say

1835
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: the name again, just zile Kowski. If Alan starts in

1836
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: week one, I'm afraid it will be at the cost

1837
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: of proper development. It would also be an indictment of

1838
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: McCarron and Peterman. There's that aspect too. What indictment. But

1839
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: they couldn't beat out a rookie quarterback the first round,

1840
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: seventh overall pick at it the fifth rounders, one of

1841
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: the fifth rounder last year. That's not an indictment. Then,

1842
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: Mary Joe Middlestat McDonald, which I guess is her full name,

1843
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: I trust, and this is the Kouli Drinker. I love it.

1844
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: I trust the process. They will put the best man in.

1845
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Preseason games will be awesome this year. And I'll tell

1846
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: you what, Mary Joe's got a great point We are

1847
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: going to be shift sifting these preseason games like Sam

1848
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: through a sieve to find out. We're gonna slice him

1849
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: and dice him and analyze him every which way. We

1850
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: possibly kind of see who if we can figure out

1851
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: what the coaching staffs thinking about the quarterbacks, it'll be fun. Oh,

1852
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. We're just by the way. Camp

1853
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 1: starts tomorrow. In two weeks from tomorrow, the first preseason

1854
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 1: game at home against Carolina August nights. We're getting to

1855
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 1: set it for that too, a break when we return.

1856
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: It was one of the real big questions of the

1857
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year when the Eagles beat the Patriots.

1858
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: What happened in New England. Cornerback Malcolm Butler, right, big question.

1859
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was asked about it. We'll hear what his

1860
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: answer was when we come back One Bill's Live from

1861
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

1862
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: to the show. It is our final show from One

1863
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive for a little while. I actually know we'll

1864
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: be back next week. I think we have shows here

1865
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 1: next week. Talking about Monday and Tuesday's Monday. We're here

1866
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: for shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got Bill's Camp and

1867
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna be there starting tomorrow twelve noon to three

1868
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: pm from our broadcast location. It's gonna be great down there.

1869
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm starting to warm

1870
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: up to it now that we actually now, I'm getting

1871
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: my mind around it. Hey, um, Bill Belichick had had

1872
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: to and believe me, I'm sure it was a you

1873
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: gotta do this coach. It started training camp, had to

1874
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: meet with the Boston media, and it's a lingering issue.

1875
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,879
Speaker 1: He guess. He never addressed it, right, He never addressed

1876
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 1: why Malcolm Butler was absent from the super Bowl bench

1877
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. Right, nobody knows what happened there.

1878
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: One of their top corners. He's no longer with the Patriots.

1879
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler has gone. But when they got together with

1880
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: the media in Foxborough at the start of their training camp, Belichick,

1881
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: Patriots coach now Patriots coach last year, if I bore

1882
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, was asked the question what happened

1883
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 1: to Malcolm Butler and the Super Bowl? Why did he

1884
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: not play? Listen what he had to say. Here's what

1885
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Belichick's answer was, Well, I know you're all about this year,

1886
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: and you'll understand that Malcot year. That's right, and I

1887
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't be doing my job. I didn't ask about last year. Yea,

1888
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: last year's last year. I'm not focused on last year.

1889
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: What about the fact that everywhere we go, folks want

1890
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,919
Speaker 1: to ask about Malcolm Butler, I mean sports, coaches, players, university.

1891
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: You're a sports fan and we've talked about that. That's

1892
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: multiple of months ago. Is there going to be any

1893
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 1: more explanation about why he didn't play? Focused on training camp?

1894
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 1: Did you do it any differently training camp? Well, if

1895
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: we're getting started, we're working on that right now. We'll

1896
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: do it the best we can. And does it matter

1897
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: to you? Do you can that the fans wanted them

1898
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: more about this? I'm focused on doing the best that

1899
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I can for the two thousand and eighteen New England Patriots.

1900
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: That's my job. That's what I'm gonna do. That's what

1901
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: I've always done in the past. You know, every day

1902
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: that I've coached here, I've done the best that I

1903
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: could for this football team. And I'll continue to do that.

1904
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: And right now, my focus is on the two thousand

1905
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 1: and eighteen season, not two thousand and seventeen, not two

1906
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen. Not two thousand and seven, not two

1907
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,879
Speaker 1: thousand and four, two thousand and one, not two thousand

1908
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: not focused on any of those seasons. They're done for

1909
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: this season's team. Is it important for you to address

1910
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: the Malcolm Bocket thing with your team? It's important for

1911
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: me to have a good season in two thousand and eighteen.

1912
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything I can't do that, do the

1913
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: best that I can for our football team. That's my

1914
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 1: job and that's responsibility. That's what I'm gonna trying to do.

1915
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: Hopefully you can respect that, but maybe not great. Look,

1916
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Belichick some credit here for this reason only.

1917
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: It's got to be difficult to come up with different

1918
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 1: ways of saying nothing. You know, and that's what he's doing.

1919
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't want to talk about it. Okay, he could

1920
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: easily say, look, I'm not talking about that and repeat that.

1921
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: He's done that too, by the way, but it's got

1922
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 1: to be he kept that going for a while. He

1923
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: rattled off basically every year of the last decade or two.

1924
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: It's got to be difficult to come up with different

1925
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: ways to say nothing. And for that, I'm not gonna

1926
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: say congratulations, but I have to say, I admire the

1927
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: effort that goes into deflecting questions on this part. Now,

1928
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't make me happy. I would be curious as

1929
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: to what happened to Malcolm Butler, as I'm sure they

1930
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: are in New England, right they lost that Super Bowl.

1931
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: By the way, had they won, he could easily say that,

1932
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: why why do we care? We want? No, you lost

1933
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: that super Bowl? Coach. On the other side of the interview,

1934
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, where you're standing at the podium, are asking

1935
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: questions the player you know after a Super Bowl loss too.

1936
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we're the difficult questions. I cannot tell you

1937
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: how gargantou of an effort it is not to say

1938
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: anything like like he just did that. It's unbelievable. Yeah,

1939
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a I'm a radio guy. I'm a

1940
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: professional speaker. I mean I do that. I'm you know,

1941
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 1: I'm a broadcast for twenty years. It's impossible for me

1942
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: to sit there and have that question like that and

1943
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: not get and not you know, the next question. You

1944
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 1: can say, next question. Yeah, that's hard to do. That's

1945
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I don't mind the other guy that

1946
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: I've ever seen do that where I said, wow, that's

1947
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: really hard is when um, um, Marshawn, Yeah, Marshawn Lynch,

1948
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm just tr so I don't get fine

1949
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: and people are asking him all kind and you listen

1950
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: to that what they asked and how he said, I'm

1951
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: just here so I don't get fined. The discipline it

1952
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: takes not to have some quip or something else to say,

1953
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: to say that every single time and have Bill Bell

1954
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: it's hard. And I'm telling you what, that's a gift.

1955
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: It's a legitimate question. But it is an old, legitimate

1956
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: question now probably never to be answered. What does he

1957
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 1: write a book at some point and say what happened there?

1958
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 1: I heard that that that sound, you know, prior and

1959
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: I had thought about what. Listen, the Patriots do things

1960
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 1: a little differently in everybody else, you know they do.

1961
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: They have a different philosophy. Bill Belichick runs a different

1962
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: ship than everybody else. When they make a guys, when

1963
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: they sit a guy down, it is for football reasons.

1964
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: Unless word and word didn't get nobody knew until even

1965
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler didn't know. So when they came out, it

1966
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: was a it had to be about some sort of matchup,

1967
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: some sort of reason, some sort of other part of

1968
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: their roster, some sort of other aspect of their game,

1969
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: whether it be special teams or offense, or a roster

1970
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: spot where they had activated a guy and didn't activate

1971
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 1: a guy where they wanted to get an edge someplace else.

1972
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm me, I'm fully confident that they didn't make any

1973
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: They did not make a decision of that magnitude because

1974
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: of some personal vendetta or some Why can't pelaticks say

1975
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: that because we wanted to get this guy in the

1976
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 1: lineup for special teams, because we were worried about how

1977
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: Butler might match up against this guy. Because he's going

1978
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 1: to say, here's the thing. Other teams would see that,

1979
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: and they'd say, listen, if they're willing to make that

1980
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: kind of personnel move against that team in a Super Bowl,

1981
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: we could use that against them. We're gonna put a

1982
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: guy on our roster that they're gonna have to match

1983
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 1: up with, or what we could man manipulate our roster

1984
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: on game days as so as to take advantage of

1985
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,759
Speaker 1: that and get one of their guys off the field.

1986
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 1: Something like that. I'm sure that's where his mind's go

1987
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's what they're thinking. So I get it.

1988
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: That Malcolm Butler thing to me was a non story.

1989
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's me speaking as a player. Story.

1990
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? It's a starting caliber corner doesn't

1991
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 1: play in the Super Bowl for no explanation. Of course,

1992
01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: that's a story. There's got to be a reason for

1993
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: that's that's why he's still asking. That's why you don't

1994
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: want to give the reason. You don't want to give

1995
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: the reason because their competitive advantage this year. That's and

1996
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: it gives them insight is to how they evaluate their

1997
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: own players. That nobody gets that information. And here's and

1998
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: the guy brought it up, the reporter, I don't know

1999
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: who it was. Do fans have a claim to say,

2000
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 1: we'd like to know coach. Of course they can't. That's

2001
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: the yeah, And that's what the reporters goes, just say, no,

2002
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: shut up and sit down, all right, basically that's what

2003
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: he said. They told he didn't say I would say

2004
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: that to an over reporter. I wouldn't say that. The fans, now,

2005
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: you shut up and sit down. But that's why that's

2006
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: some scar tissue from my youth. But yeah, the coach

2007
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have to answer because listen. The only thing Bill

2008
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: Belichick answers is questions about things that have nothing to

2009
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: do with football. He doesn't answer football questions. Yeah, that's

2010
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: a legitimate question. Should have been asked back in February.

2011
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 1: I have no problem. It won't be an asset, and

2012
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: he should answer. I think we're gonna take asked back

2013
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: in February. I should have been answered back in February.

2014
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: A breakcare. We're going to talk more about the Bill's

2015
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Who do you want to start September ninth

2016
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: against Baltimore and why and how do you think that

2017
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: might happen? Give us a call. We've got lines open

2018
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty and outside Buffalo

2019
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: toll free at one eight eight eight five fifty two

2020
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: five fifty. You're doing on Twitter and voting on our

2021
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Twitter poll or weighing on Twitter? At One Bills Live Plus,

2022
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Rams spending all that money?

2023
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: Where does it end and how far do they get?

2024
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: We'll talk with Vincent bounsignor of the LA Daily News,

2025
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: covers the Rams for them. He's joining us next hour

2026
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive And this is

2027
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo Hills Radio Network. Story update on

2028
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: the Bills. Josh Allen officially signed to his rookie contract today.

2029
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: It happened this morning. The signing comes as Bill's players

2030
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: are reported to training camp at Saint John Fisher College.

2031
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Three months ago tomorrow, Alan officially was drafted by the

2032
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 1: Bills seventh overall pick, the highest draft pick the team

2033
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: has ever used on a quarterback enfranchise history. Now he

2034
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: goes to camp to compete with A. J. Mccaron and

2035
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman for the starting quarterback job. Now the Bill's

2036
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: entire twenty eighteen draft classes under contract. The sports contract

2037
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 1: website spottrack dot com says it's a twenty one million

2038
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: dollars deal that includes thirteen point five million dollars in

2039
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 1: a bonus. All twenty one million guaranteed an average annual

2040
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 1: salary of five point three million dollars. His camp it

2041
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: this year at three point eight Josh Allen signed to

2042
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 1: a contract by the Bills players at camp in meetings

2043
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 1: right now. They had a conditioning test earlier. This afternoon

2044
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is the first practice day, a five thirty pm practice.

2045
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: It is one of the ticket at practices this year

2046
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: at camp. The camp schedule and ticket information available on

2047
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: the website Buffalo Bills dot com. One Bills Live will

2048
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: be there tomorrow from camp starting at twelve noon. Before

2049
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen signed, Baker Mayfield, the first overall pick, signed

2050
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 1: his contract with the Cleveland Browns, a four year deal

2051
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: slotted at thirty two and a half million dollars. He's

2052
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: the eighth of the nine Browns draft picks to sign.

2053
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Still on signed cornerback Denzel Ward, who was fourth overall.

2054
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: Frank Breke says, you can expect Andrew Luck, who missed

2055
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 1: all of last season, to be getting quarterback work in

2056
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 1: their preseason opener. That's what Frank Bright, head coach of

2057
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, said today. Luck reported to training camp.

2058
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: He'll practice Thursday and Friday. He'll get Saturday off. He'll

2059
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: practice Sunday at night. The Colts open their preseason schedule

2060
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: on the road in Seattle on Thursday, August night. Tennessee

2061
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: Titans offensive tackle Taylor Lawan, who was held out a

2062
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp looking for a new contract. Who held

2063
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: out and is ready to go to the Titans again.

2064
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: I'll report to camp on time today, scheduled to play

2065
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: in a fifth year option worth nine point three million dollars,

2066
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 1: and the Falcons signed coach Dan Quinn and general manager

2067
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: Thomas to Meetrof to three year contract extensions earlier today.

2068
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: That is the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy

2069
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker in our One Buffalo studio. Tomorrow, though,

2070
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on the road where we belong, at

2071
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: Bill's training camp, and we're all looking forward to that.

2072
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Coming up in just a minute, Vincent bounsing your LA

2073
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: Daily News RAMS and NFL columnists, he'll be joining us

2074
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: to talk about some of that RAMS News Falcons News.

2075
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: I find interesting, Steve contract extensions for the coach and

2076
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: the general manager. They've done outstanding jobs, right Super Bowl

2077
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Head coach Dan Quinn twenty

2078
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: nine wins, nineteen losses as he goes into a fourth season.

2079
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: Thomas Demetroff going into his eleventh season. By the way,

2080
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 1: you know we had a twenty nine and nineteen record.

2081
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: His head coach at the Buffalo Bills, Waite Phillips. Yeah,

2082
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: how do you know that? I remember, Yeah, you've heard

2083
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: us talk about it. Yeah, but he could co Yeah.

2084
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Here they are the Falcons in a stalemate with five

2085
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl wide receiver Julio Jones. They are not

2086
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 1: interested in giving him an extension, and they grant extensions

2087
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 1: to the two main authority figures in their football department.

2088
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure, look that was in the works for a while.

2089
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: But in any way, is this a message to Julio Jones,

2090
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: We're behind these two, not you. No. I think it's

2091
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: a simple fact of the matter that Dan Quinn and

2092
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Thomas Demetroff are deeper into their deals. I mean, Julio

2093
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: Jones just signed a five year deal two years ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's in the coming into the third year

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Speaker 1: of a five year extension for seventy five million bucks.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's feeling sorry for him, and you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: expect the club to go back and redo a deal

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01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 1: they just redid. It's just, you know, I got it.

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Speaker 1: I mean that I think Demitrof is really good. I

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Speaker 1: had a long conversation with him a group of reporters

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Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl a couple of years ago in

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Speaker 1: Houston when he was there with the Falcons, and just

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Speaker 1: his way of thinking it really impressed me. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the first to say this either, I just think Thomas

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Speaker 1: Demitrof is just about as good as it gets as

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Speaker 1: an NFL general manager. And he said one thing we

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Speaker 1: used to talk about on the show before you got here, Steve,

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01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: about now the Bills have Josh Allen, But he said

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Speaker 1: one thing he was talking about Matt Ryan and scouting

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Speaker 1: and drafting Matt Ryan. He said, when you don't have

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, your team is consumed with the effort

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Speaker 1: to find the franchise quarterback. I think he's right, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen it here. Oh that's all you can think about,

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Speaker 1: all you can talk about, all you can try to do.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills have tried to find the franchise quarterback

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01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 1: and you don't have the fans who call in. They

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Speaker 1: got all these scenarios and maschinations, of machinations of how

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Speaker 1: the league should work and how we could finagle our

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Speaker 1: way into a pick or a place where we could

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Speaker 1: trade four or draft a starting quarterback or a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And here we are, Yeah, here we are the Bills

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Speaker 1: in their potential franchise quarterback. The Rams have some several

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01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 1: franchise playing on offensive La Rams Todd Gurley agreed to

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01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 1: a four year contract extension yesterday on the subway fresh

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Speaker 1: take hotline with us from all the way out west

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Speaker 1: to talk about it is the La Daily News, RAMS

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Speaker 1: NFL columnist and a RAMS insider on five seventy am

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Speaker 1: radio in La. Happy to have Vincent bouncing Yard on

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Speaker 1: the line with his Vincent John Murphy's team tasker here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thank you very much for joining us this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely thanks for having me. I think many people would

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01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: have thought that the Aaron Donald contract extension might come

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01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: before Todd Gurley. Have any thoughts on that, not just

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01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: the timing, never but the money that they gave Todd Gurley. Well,

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01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, as much as these deals are unto themselves,

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01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: obviously you're working in a salary cap. You got fifty

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01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: three players, you got to sit them all into that hard,

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01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 1: hard salary cap. But as much as deals are, you know,

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01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 1: can be unto themselves. You know, Todd Gurley's deal is

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01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: separate from you know, Aaron donald deal. So the timing

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01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 1: of it, I'm always surprised when something, you know, when

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01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: when teams and players reach these agreements, especially when there's

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01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,480
Speaker 1: two years left on a contract. But from the RAMS perspective,

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01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, they know that the running back market could

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01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: be changing here pretty soon. I mean, obviously you've got

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01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: Levan Fell, one way or another, is going to get

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01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: a new contract next year, whether it's from the Steelers

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01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 1: or if he goes out onto the open market. You know,

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01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott's going to be coming due here pretty soon.

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01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 1: So the Rams, you know, there's always that saying you'd

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01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: rather be first in line than last in line. And

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01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I think the Rams are, you know, making a little

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01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,759
Speaker 1: bit of a calculated riff. Yes, they're resetting the running

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01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 1: back market, but it could get reset again here pretty soon,

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01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 1: and they'd rather be in this position than a year

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01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 1: down the road if they hadn't done this. And somebody

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01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 1: crazily gives Levon Bell sixteen million dollars a year, and

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01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,599
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Todd Gurley and his agent are

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01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: knocking on less Sneeze and Kevin demos Dar saying, well,

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01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: there's our starting point for contract negotiations a sixty million

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01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 1: dollars a year. So I kind of wanted to beat

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01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 1: people to the punch. Maybe they overpaid for Todd Gurley.

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01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 1: Well that remains to be seen. But usually the nature

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01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: of these things it's going to go probably a little

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01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 1: bit higher, and so a couple of years down the road,

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01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 1: this could look like a pretty good deal. Yeah, it

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01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: may look be a pretty good deal for Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: a couple of years down the road. But what about

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01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: the situation they're in with Aaron don Or they just

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01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: kind of ride it out, franchise him and transition him

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01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: or all of that stuff. I just kind of hang

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01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 1: on to him as long as they can and just

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01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: let him go that route and you know, not give

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Speaker 1: him the new deal because that for me and Dominican

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01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: Sue a couple of years ago, reset the defensive tackle market,

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01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 1: and now it's two or three years after that, and

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Speaker 1: they don't want to do that again with with Aaron

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Speaker 1: don Well, I think they're they're they're ready and willing,

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01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,719
Speaker 1: and they know that they have to reset the defensive

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01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,560
Speaker 1: tackle market with Aaron Donald and that's likely going to

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01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: mean um, you know, uh, making him the highest state

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Speaker 1: defensive player of all time, obviously the highest state defensive

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01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: tackle of all time, and probably most likely crossing over

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01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: that twenty million dollars a year threshold which has been

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01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: exclusive to quarterbacks for all this time. I think they're

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01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 1: ready and willing to do that. You know, they've shown

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01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: in the Todd Gurley deal, and you know, a week

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01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 1: ago Brandon Cooks deal, he's getting paid, you know, at

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Speaker 1: the top five wide receiver. Todd Gurley obviously is now

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01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: the highest paid running back. They're showing that they're willing

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01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: to pay top dollar at a position and as warranted.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that there's anything different going on

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01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,799
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald. So the question becomes is what Aaron

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01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Donald really asking for? Here? The rams? You know, you

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01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: could read between the lines here, but they're ready to

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01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: make him. They're ready to give him a landmark deal.

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Speaker 1: That's that's all sorts of records. Why is that not

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01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 1: good enough for Aaron Donald? And you know, there's speculation

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Speaker 1: and I've talked to you know, an NFL general manager

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01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: who has his ear to the ground, and what he's

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01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: hearing is that Aaron Donald is looking for quarterback type money,

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01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: which you're starting to now talk about twenty five to

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01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,679
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year, you know, not just seventy

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01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: million dollars and guarantees, but eighty to ninety million dollars

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01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: of guarantees. And if that's what he's asking for. If

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01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 1: that's what the hold up is, it's going to be

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01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: a pretty long hold up because it's under the salary cap.

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01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: That would be reckless by the Rams to concede to that,

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Speaker 1: because they do have an elite quarterback on the roster

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01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: who's going to get paid like an elite quarterback here

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01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 1: pretty soon, and Jared Goff. They have a lot of

2212
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: good young players, Pod Gurley bren and TuS Marcus Peters.

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01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Is going to have to be dealt with. At what

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01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: point do you it would just be irresponsible to pay

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01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 1: a non quarterback quarterback type money when you have that

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01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of firepower, that kind of talent that's going to

2217
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: get needed that it needs to get paid here pretty soon.

2218
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: So if that is what he's asking for, he's get

2219
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 1: in for a long wait. And then what you were saying, Steve,

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01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 1: the franchise tag, all of that comes into play. The

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01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: Rams have him under contract for this year, they've got

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01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 1: the franchise tag for the two next two years after that.

2223
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: If he's his feet are planted firmly in the ground

2224
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 1: wanting quarterback type money, then that that becomes more likely

2225
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: than anything else. Now he can have a change of heart,

2226
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 1: He can have a change of mind. He can look

2227
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 1: at his age and say, hey, what are we doing here?

2228
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: You know that's unreasonable. Maybe what we're asking for. No

2229
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: team is going to give a defensive tackle quarterback type money.

2230
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,759
Speaker 1: There's seventy million dollars or so sitting in the middle

2231
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 1: of the table of groundbreaking deal for a defensive player.

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01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time to go ahead and accept that offer.

2233
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 1: On the line with Vincent bouncing your the LA Daily

2234
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: News talking about the Rams, they've been in the news.

2235
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: They're making a lot of moves, and I have a

2236
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of a two part question about let's sneak for you, Vincent.

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01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: Number one, it's been speculated, and I just wanted if

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01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 1: you believe this to be the case that the Rams

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01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: are being so aggressive with all these other positions because

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Speaker 1: they want to get this done while they have Jared

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01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: Goff on his rookie contract, knowing that when they want

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01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 1: to resign him, they won't have this kind of flexibility.

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01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Do you believe that to be true? Well, yes, no

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01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 1: question that that's a huge bonus for them, knowing that

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01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: they still have Jared on his rookie deal and being

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01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: able to manipulate the roster around him, you know, without

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01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 1: having to pay him yet as a as a as

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01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: a franchise caliber quarterback. But what they're even more happy about,

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01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: or or you know, more focused on, is having the

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Speaker 1: pieces in place around him, i e. Todd Gurley and

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01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks are going to be here for a long

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01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: while now, um, and those pieces now are in place

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01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: around him dealt with so that when it comes to

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01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: his turn, they don't have to worry about paying him.

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01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: And Todd Gurrow and Brandon Cooks they already know what

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01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: they're paying those guys and they can focus entirely on

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01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. And they've structured their contracts in a way

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01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: that you know, two three years down the road, when

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01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 1: it is Jared's turn, they're going to be able to

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01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: deal with them. They'll have the money under under the

2261
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 1: cap and not even accounts for uh, you know, making

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01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: making Aaron Donald the highest staid defensive player. They have

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01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 1: that money set aside, it's ready to go and be

2264
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, put into the calculator and under the cap.

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01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 1: So yes, they're trying to take advantage obviously of these

2266
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 1: years with Jared gott but they're also preparing for the

2267
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 1: moment when they have to give him the money that

2268
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 1: he deserves as an elite quarterback while also having other

2269
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: places in places as well. And one more question dealing

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01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: with Snead Vincent and I think I read this quote.

2271
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: You might have been there or heard it, but Snead,

2272
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I believe was quoted as saying, Look, I don't even

2273
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: think about the camp. We're not close to brushing up

2274
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 1: against it. I mentioned, as Steve here that that might

2275
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: be the new paradigm in the NFL. Now the cap

2276
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 1: has gone up so much that it's not even a

2277
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: factor anymore. When a team is ready to dole out

2278
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,759
Speaker 1: cash and base some players, what do you think, Well,

2279
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: yes and no. You also have to be prudent and

2280
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: smart in how you manipulate it. And they've done a

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01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: really good jogged up part of it. It It is because

2282
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: they've been allowed the team for many years and they

2283
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: didn't have to pay uh you know, pay guys. But

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01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: uh to their credit, to less needs credit and the

2285
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: scouting staffs credit. They've they've hit on some pretty big

2286
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 1: time players, uh, Aaron Donald, Michael Brocker's, Todd Gurley, Jared Goff,

2287
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. Um. You know, uh, they've been able to

2288
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: to draft some really good players and then bring in

2289
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 1: some really good players Marcus Peters a key to leave

2290
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: in Dominicans sue. But in the in addition to all

2291
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 1: of that, they do their contracts in a way and

2292
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 1: it's above my pay scale, and it's been explained to me,

2293
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 1: but I still I got smoke coming out of my

2294
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 1: ears when they're when they're really trying to break it down,

2295
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: like whatever, man, Okay, you're saying that you have the money,

2296
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 1: but as they do have flexibility in spite of all

2297
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: these big contracts that they're coming that they're that they're

2298
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: giving out right now, Um, they do have the ability

2299
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 1: to to to also take care of some other key

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01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: players because they're managing their caps so well. So while

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01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 1: the cap is going up, you still have to do

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01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: it smartly. And there are a team that run into

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01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: that problem where they just don't have the money under

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01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 1: the cap to to, you know, aggressively go after players

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01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 1: or sometimes even aggressively play their own players. Yeah, it's

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01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 1: still a good place to be when you've got so

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01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 1: many good players that you're trying to pay them all

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01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 1: and try and keep them. It's a better place to

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01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 1: be than when you've got all kinds of cap room

2310
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: because you've got nobody really interested in keeping. But what

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01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: I and we've we had you on before, Vincent, and

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01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: one of the things that's been become obvious and I

2313
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:27,600
Speaker 1: want to touch on it is the fact that the

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01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: Rams are kind of putting all their eggs into this

2315
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,759
Speaker 1: year's basket. They it's kind of super Bowl or bust

2316
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: for them. But I want to know what are the

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01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 1: expectations maybe from the fan base and from the LA

2318
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: market and from the organization itself. I mean, how what's

2319
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: the vibe coming out of there? And is that you know,

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01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: not only is it realistic, but you know, how confident

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01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 1: are they that they're going to be able to, you know,

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01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 1: reproduce their offensive at least their offensive side of the

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01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: football that they did last year. Well, you know when

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01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 1: you look at and you know, I think there is

2325
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 1: a bit of a misconception that they're's it's all or

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01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 1: nothing this year. But really, when you think about it,

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01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 1: h their three wide receivers are all signed for at

2328
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: least the next three years. When you're talking about Brandon

2329
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: Cooks and Robert Woods and Cooper Cup. Now Todd Gurley

2330
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: is through twenty twenty three. Um, you know, they've got

2331
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,759
Speaker 1: other players that are that are you know, here for

2332
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 1: for a good bit of time. So they're looking at

2333
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 1: a good four or five year window that's there. That's

2334
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: been their you know kind of vision. As far as

2335
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: the expectations, you know, they understand, they understand absolutely that

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01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: they raised the bar last year by you know, eleven

2337
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: or five regular season you know, winning their first division

2338
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:37,600
Speaker 1: title in more than a decade. But they didn't just

2339
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: rest on their laurels. They went out and actively got better.

2340
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 1: When you're talking about Marcus Peters and you're talking about

2341
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: a key to lead, they know that they have to

2342
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 1: take it even higher. Um. And when I say, you know,

2343
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, he's his contract is going to come up

2344
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 1: here pretty soon. He's absolutely a player that they look

2345
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 1: at as a foundation piece, somebody that they want to

2346
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,799
Speaker 1: keep here, you know, for the long term. Now, Brandon,

2347
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: he's in a bit of an addition role this year.

2348
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: He can really solidify his place here long term by

2349
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 1: playing magnificently, which he typically does, and avoiding some of

2350
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 1: the other issues that he has on the field, taking

2351
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, dumb penalties or ill advised penalties. If he

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01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 1: can manage that, then I can see him being a

2353
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 1: foundation piece as well. So expectations. They believe that they're

2354
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: good enough to take compete with anybody in the NFC,

2355
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: and there's an expectation of that, but there's it's not

2356
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: just this year. They want to look, you know, this year,

2357
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,600
Speaker 1: in the next three or four years and trying to

2358
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 1: maximize this window around some really good young players. Does

2359
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 1: you keep an eye on the Chargers as well? And

2360
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: we don't have a whole lot of time, but Steve

2361
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 1: asked you about the expectation level for the Rams. What

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01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: about for the Charges? Many people think they are ready

2363
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: to contend an extremely competitive AFC West. What do you think.

2364
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with that. You know, you look at

2365
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 1: them last year. They started out oh and four, but

2366
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 1: after that, what were they? Nine and two? Correct of

2367
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: the way, and you know, you can't just discount that.

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01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 1: I think that they'll benefit from being in Los Angeles

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01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: now for the full year. It's not sharing time in

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01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 1: San Diego, then making the quick move up to LA

2371
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: and getting things together and figuring out a new location.

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01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 1: That's all taken care of. I think they have they're loaded.

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01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,640
Speaker 1: They have a really good team. I know, because you

2374
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 1: know their stature here in Los Angeles and their stature nationally.

2375
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 1: They may fly under the radar a little bit, but

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01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: this is a loaded team and a great defense. And

2377
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 1: obviously anytime you have Philip rivers Um, you know you're

2378
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna have a chance to be good offensively.

2379
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 1: That he's got great talent around him, I wouldn't be

2380
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: surprised if you know, this is a legitimate division championship

2381
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: caliber team and somebody that can that can do some

2382
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: damage in the playoffs. And the interesting thing is they

2383
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 1: play the round of this year at the Coliseum in

2384
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 1: a regular season game, so we're gonna really have a

2385
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: battle for Los Angeles at the colisseum Um here this year.

2386
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: And these are two teams that you know, probably yet

2387
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 1: lee nationally um have really emerged as as as teams

2388
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on, and it'll be interesting to

2389
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: see how it all plays out from them and locally

2390
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 1: and nationally. Well, one last quick question before we go,

2391
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 1: how likely is it that Antonio Gates will be on

2392
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers when that game happens. You think he's going

2393
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: to start? Yeah, it looks like they're definitely pretty far

2394
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: down the road on negotiations. You know, these things can

2395
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: be fragile sometimes, and so until it's official, it's you know,

2396
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: it's still speculation. But it looks like there's interest on

2397
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: both sides. And and I do I do think that

2398
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: he will he will be here. Um, you know, uh

2399
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: could come that regular season game, and you know it,

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01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 1: it's an interesting story. You know. Uh, here's a guy

2401
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: that was retired and all of a sudden, you know,

2402
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: he comes back. You never know what. He's a good

2403
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: enough player that if he has a little bit left

2404
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: in his gas tank, he can he can provide a

2405
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 1: pretty big lift. I remember four or five years ago

2406
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 1: when people used to say nobody cares about the NFL

2407
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. You don't hear that anymore, do you No,

2408
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: not at all. And and uh, you know it's it's

2409
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 1: still going to be a challenge for these two teams

2410
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 1: to create their nis. One of the things that happened

2411
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: over the twenty one years is, yeah, there were still

2412
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: a lot of football fans here. They just became fans

2413
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys and the Giants and the Buffalo Bills

2414
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 1: and everybody else wherever they wanted. They were free agents

2415
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 1: and So now the challenge for the Chargers and the

2416
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 1: Rams is to keep the local fans interested in the

2417
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: local teams. And it's going to help that they that

2418
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna win. That looks like they're gonna win for

2419
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: a little while, and then they're obviously moving to a

2420
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: brand new stadium in twenty twenties, so things are pointing up.

2421
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: But they have to they have to perform on the field,

2422
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 1: and if they do, they'll both have a have a

2423
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: good niche, create their own good niche here in La.

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01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Vincent, thank you very much. We

2425
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 1: appreciate your time here today. Thanks all right, guys, take care.

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01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Vincent Bouncing yours the Daily News, the LA Daily News,

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01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: Rams NFL columnists, does Radio four five seventy AMLA Sports

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01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: Rams Insider, and he joined us on the Subway French

2429
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: Dake Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh Look. I wasn't a fan

2430
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: of either move, Steve, the Rams from Saint Louis to

2431
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 1: LA or the Argers, especially from San Diego to LA.

2432
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 1: But people used to say that don't worry about La.

2433
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: Nobody out there as a football fan. It turns out

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: they are, and now they've got potentially two really good

2435
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: teams coming up in twenty eighteen. For the time being there,

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01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna be pretty good. And I think one of

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01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: the things that speaks well of it is when you

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01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 1: get a team that comes in like the Chargers or

2439
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: the Rams now come in. If they can win games

2440
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: for five years, six years, seven years, or a handful

2441
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 1: of years, you're gonna get a whole generation of kids

2442
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: who jump on board, and then you that's where your

2443
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 1: fan base will come from. Us from a new generation

2444
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 1: coming up. There will be old people our age and

2445
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: younger a little bit that will say, listen, I was

2446
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: a fan. You know, we didn't have a team when

2447
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 1: I grew up. You know, the Raiders were gone from

2448
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: LA And you'll get it may take a decade, but

2449
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 1: there's going to be a generation of people that grow

2450
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 1: up with these two teams being there. It's gonna be

2451
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 1: like the Mets and the Yankees in New York and

2452
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it, all those other teams.

2453
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:57,400
Speaker 1: So it'll it'll happen. It'll happen if they hang in there.

2454
01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 1: I think it's happening. Hey, we want to acknowledge we've

2455
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: gotten some tweets and some contact for people who have

2456
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 1: trouble with the live stream on radio dot com app.

2457
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 1: We're told that Entercom Radio working on a fix. We

2458
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 1: apologize for the inconvenience. We would like to let you

2459
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 1: know that you can stream the show on the msg

2460
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: go app as well if you need to live stream,

2461
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 1: and you can catch up with the show on Buffalo

2462
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 1: bills dot com after the show. A little bit after

2463
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 1: the show, we post the entire radio show up on

2464
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 1: our website, Buffalo Bills dot com. Steve and I have

2465
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: more to talk about, more to listen to you about

2466
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: the Bills quarterback situation. Josh Allen is signed. Does he

2467
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 1: get a chance to start? What do you think? Who

2468
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 1: will be? Who do you want to be? Not? Who

2469
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 1: will be? Not your prediction, your wish? Who do you

2470
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 1: want to be? Buffalo's quarterback starter on September ninth against Baltimore.

2471
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 1: Give us a call on that eight oh three five

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01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty or on Twitter. We'll check our Twitter

2474
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 1: poll at a moment when we come back. Also NFL

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01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: True and falls coming up. Come on back. One Bill's

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01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

2477
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 1: Should we continue this conversation on their conversation belongs off air.

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01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 1: We're on the air. One Bill's Live from One Bill Drive,

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01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasking or One Buffalo Studio turned into

2480
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 1: an icay rainy overnight, rainy this morning Norner Park. Now

2481
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty nice out there. We don't care because we're

2482
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 1: in Rochester. I did check the Pittsburgh, New York weather

2483
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 1: or tomorrow, Steve. We're in good shape? Are we good shape? Yeah?

2484
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:24,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna be like smoking hot or just something. I'm

2485
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna be fine, low eighties. We had a couple of

2486
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 1: days last year doing the show out there. Last year

2487
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 1: was our first TV where the set almost blew down

2488
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 1: with wind. Yeah, right, were like shorts training camps. I

2489
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 1: know it's a radio show, but we do. We do

2490
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 1: simulcast with MSG and I'm I think you can be

2491
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 1: in shorts. Is not really that great? Oh suit yourself?

2492
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: Do what you I'm not wearing a suit? You meant now,

2493
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna evaluate my camp get up

2494
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 1: before I well, you got all kinds of new clothes.

2495
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 1: When I'm gonna lay my lay everything out, put my

2496
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 1: shoes there new my new outfit they do. That's kind

2497
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 1: of nice. That's one of the I've always said it

2498
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:07,480
Speaker 1: the best part about pro footballs of free stuff. So

2499
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 1: they do give us gear to wear training camp. You

2500
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: should have plenty of gear to wear. Esso, Hey, we

2501
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: want to update. This came in during the course of

2502
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 1: the show. Instagram photo from Jill Kelly, Jim's wife. Jim

2503
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 1: went to New York for more tests. He mentioned it

2504
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 1: when he was in Rochester last week at his clinic there.

2505
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 1: And it looks good. Joe Kelly's Instagram posts MRI and

2506
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 1: CT scans are clear. Still working through major pain management,

2507
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:35,040
Speaker 1: but praise the Lord, no evidence of cancer. His brothers

2508
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: were there, Jie went on to say, including those of

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02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,360
Speaker 1: you watching on MSG can see in the picture that's

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Speaker 1: Danny Kelly. Yeah, so good. I mean, you know, it's

2511
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 1: it's what a road Jim Kelly's head getting through this

2512
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 1: cancer stuff. But that sounds like positive development today for

2513
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I mean, I know the guys

2514
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: that we have a tech sloop and all his former teammates.

2515
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 1: It's it's a gift for us to be able to

2516
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:00,600
Speaker 1: ride with him, you know, I mean a lot of

2517
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 1: you got to think about your own situation, your own life,

2518
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 1: and how diligent Jill, Jim's wife, and Jim himself and

2519
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 1: his daughters have been about keeping everybody us up to

2520
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: date about what he's going through. Yep. And it's for

2521
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:16,240
Speaker 1: us his former teammates and his friends and good friends

2522
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of extended family. We're so grateful

2523
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: for that, and now we're extending that to you with

2524
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,520
Speaker 1: the listeners too. We appreciate your feedback as well. We've

2525
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 1: got a lot of bunch of likes on that and

2526
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 1: our Twitter feed about everybody seeing that Jim's has been

2527
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: found cancer free of these last tests and how good

2528
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 1: news it is for everybody. So we appreciate your chiming

2529
02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: in on that, and we're glad also the Jill is

2530
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: willing to do that for us. Hey. Our Twitter pull

2531
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 1: today deals with the current quarterback group. Josh Allen signed

2532
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:45,080
Speaker 1: earlier today, so he is in the mix and he'll

2533
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:47,400
Speaker 1: be on the field tomorrow. So our question is not

2534
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 1: who do you expect we'll start on opening day, but

2535
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: who do you want to start at quarterback and the

2536
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 1: season opener in Baltimore and what needs to happen for

2537
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 1: him to win the job. Ask the question we've had

2538
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 1: out on the table on Twitter for a couple of hours. Now,

2539
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is the leader in your balloting. He's the

2540
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 1: guy you want to start. Forty four percent of you

2541
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 1: say you want forty six percent of you so you

2542
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 1: want Josh Allen do win the job? Thirty four percent

2543
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:12,960
Speaker 1: of you saying you want a J McCarron, eighteen percent

2544
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 1: say Nathan Peterman. We put other up there just to

2545
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 1: get a laugh. We always put other up. I think

2546
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 1: every Twitter poll wait needs another. This one didn't because

2547
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 1: there really is no other legitimate candidate. The other shoe

2548
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker or John Murphy playing quarterback on the opener,

2549
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: did you ever throw a pass in your NFL career?

2550
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:34,600
Speaker 1: Not in a game? No? Okay, so we have that

2551
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:38,680
Speaker 1: in common. That's right. Right, Let's take your calls on

2552
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 1: you too. Could go to Sam and Williamsville. Hello, Sam,

2553
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air, Sam and Ways. Oh yes, yeah.

2554
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 1: My best cast was I think it's going to be

2555
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: uh aj mccarra, No, no, Sam, not who you think

2556
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be? Who do you want it to be? Well,

2557
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to take that big easy elements,

2558
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be the best quarterback that gives

2559
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 1: us the best chance of winning the most games period

2560
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:12,680
Speaker 1: period this year twenty eighteen. Winning the most games. Yeah, okay,

2561
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 1: because that is really the distinction, isn't It's isn't it?

2562
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 1: Samon and Steven? Look, it's I'm not gonna say it's

2563
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 1: easy to say that the guy who gives us a

2564
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: chance to win, Okay, you mean wins this year or

2565
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 1: wins down the road, because that really is going to

2566
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 1: be the question with Josh Allen, who's going to have

2567
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,000
Speaker 1: more career wins? I mean, that's it. If if aj

2568
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 1: McCarron has a seventeen year career and Josh Allen a

2569
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 1: thirteen year career, who's gonna win more games in the

2570
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 1: next thirteen years? What do you think won? What do

2571
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 1: you think? Sam? I think it's too early to tell.

2572
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:43,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's not he you know, he's got to

2573
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: make that adjustments pro football, and I'm sure he will,

2574
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 1: but it's really premature to state that you know, he's

2575
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be a win win Sam, Sam, do

2576
02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 1: you think do you think that it says something about

2577
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. If he's not able to beat out a

2578
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 1: guy like AJ McCarron or Nathan Peterman, does it say

2579
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,400
Speaker 1: something bad about him if he can't come into training

2580
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 1: camp and do that not initially in my opinion, And

2581
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 1: I think a big part of that's going to be

2582
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and obviously the quarterback coach. And but

2583
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 1: I just think that based on what I've read, I

2584
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:27,680
Speaker 1: haven't seen him perform, but it looks like that AJ

2585
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: McCarron has a toughness about him that in a desire

2586
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:39,200
Speaker 1: that you know, that's going to, you know, make him

2587
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 1: the most competitive. I think it's going to be a

2588
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:46,440
Speaker 1: horse race. But I think the maturity of Josh Allen,

2589
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about his physical skills, I'm talking

2590
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:55,120
Speaker 1: about his mental toughness and his mental ability to deal

2591
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 1: with that transition is going to be the critical factor

2592
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion. I think down the road he's going

2593
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:07,880
Speaker 1: to develop the necessary toughness to compose your leadership and

2594
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 1: all that. But I gotta be honest, he hasn't. You know.

2595
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 1: I've listened to him speak, I've heard about as a results,

2596
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 1: I've heard specialist comment on him, and they you know,

2597
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,960
Speaker 1: I think the guy's great. Emotionally, we're all attached to

2598
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 1: it and we're wanting to do well. But I don't

2599
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 1: think it's going to be in an immediate trying of

2600
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: impact that everybody emotionally wants. What do you think, Steve Well?

2601
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 1: I I kind of agree with with Sam. I mean,

2602
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that gray area that we talked about

2603
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. I mean, is it is it

2604
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 1: suffering through a young quarterback who's got a huge, bigger

2605
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 1: upside and will improve better and faster if he's in there,

2606
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 1: in there, in there, or because this is an offense

2607
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 1: that isn't established, and he's going to struggle, and he's

2608
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 1: going to struggle to the point where it makes him

2609
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: less than what he could be later on down down

2610
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:02,400
Speaker 1: down the line, or delays his development. And I think

2611
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:06,120
Speaker 1: that's the real key. I think everybody wants Josh Allen

2612
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: to develop as quickly as he can into a franchise quarterback,

2613
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 1: but they're not willing to. And I think the balance

2614
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 1: has got to be struck between how early you play

2615
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 1: him and how much success he can have early because

2616
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 1: he is going to struggle. I mean that all of

2617
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 1: them do, and j and That's why I said early.

2618
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,919
Speaker 1: AJ mccaren's gonna struggle when he's if he's the starting quarterback.

2619
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 1: But I think the consensus is people just want the

2620
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:31,520
Speaker 1: guy who's going to give him the best chance to win. Yeah,

2621
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 1: time now for NFL true or false, brought to you

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02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:37,640
Speaker 1: by Yancey's fancy New York startist and cheese. You're checking

2623
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: the clock. You can't believe it's time for that. That's

2624
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: exactly right, like I can't read NFL true or false.

2625
02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 1: Here we go. How about this one, Chris Brown Monday

2626
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 1: was here in for you, Steven. We got into a

2627
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 1: bit of a disagreement about this guy, Darrell Revs. Um,

2628
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 1: there's a no doubt there on NFL dot com about

2629
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 1: Durrell Revs first ballot Hall of Famer. That's our true

2630
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 1: or false. So let me let's start there. I say true. Yeah,

2631
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 1: he'll go in first ballot, the best corner of his generation.

2632
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 1: Yes true. I might you know what I got. I

2633
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 1: might have to say false because I want to know

2634
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:10,440
Speaker 1: who's gonna be in his class when he comes eligible,

2635
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:12,800
Speaker 1: because there will be some guys still eligible who have

2636
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 1: been waiting for a while. I think one thing that

2637
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 1: will count against Durell Reevas for some of the voters

2638
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 1: the fact that he was a mercenary, he was a

2639
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:23,400
Speaker 1: hired gun, he jumped teams, didn't have much loyalty, He

2640
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 1: took the money and ran that kind of thing. He

2641
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 1: did win a World championship with New England. He played

2642
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 1: very well for the Jets on a couple of stints,

2643
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 1: and no question, he was the best corner, best man

2644
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 1: to man corner in the league and during the time

2645
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 1: he played. But I'm gonna say false just because I

2646
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 1: don't know that there will be enough room for him

2647
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 1: as a first ballad guy in the class that he's

2648
02:07:44,360 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 1: going to be included in. Here's the Revas question. I

2649
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 1: really want to get your take out. And Chris and

2650
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:49,480
Speaker 1: I argued about it the other day. It was a

2651
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:52,240
Speaker 1: true or false Durell Revs is the greatest New York

2652
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 1: Jet of all time? I said false, and I had

2653
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: another answer another candidate for that, Brownie said false with

2654
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 1: a totally different answer. Now, what do you think first

2655
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: Vas the greatest New York Jet all time? No, it's false, Joe,

2656
02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:06,360
Speaker 1: Joe Nama, thank you, That's what I said, Brownie said,

2657
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:10,840
Speaker 1: Joe Cleco. Joe Cleck. That's what I said, Joe, Joe

2658
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:15,240
Speaker 1: Cleco is a great player, Mark Gastineau and and um

2659
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 1: exactly what. I'm glad you. Yeah. And then there's the

2660
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 1: other the New York sack exchange. He was one of

2661
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 1: four guys. Joe Cleco was a truly great defensive tackle,

2662
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:24,040
Speaker 1: absolutely no question about it. And I don't want to

2663
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:25,800
Speaker 1: take any away from him, but he's not the number

2664
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:27,840
Speaker 1: one of all time Jets. Well, Brownie when he got

2665
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 1: name it, Yeah, Brownie got into name his one loss record,

2666
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 1: his his playoff record, his interceptions, he had a lot,

2667
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 1: And I said, Brownie, he was. He was like right

2668
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,080
Speaker 1: next to Muhammad Ali. He was a seminal figure in

2669
02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 1: American sports. He's historic. Of course, he's forgiven. Jet He's

2670
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:46,080
Speaker 1: one of the all time great NFL figures because of

2671
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 1: the legitimacy he brought to the AFL. He forced the

2672
02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 1: merger with his style, with his play, with his success.

2673
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:56,440
Speaker 1: Come on, tell Brownie when you see him at camp

2674
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 1: that he's totally off on that NFL tur or false

2675
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 1: today true or false? The Julio Jones holdout will hurt

2676
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Of course it will true. I don't know

2677
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was pretty good last year. And now I

2678
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:11,280
Speaker 1: know that Julio Jones was on the field old time

2679
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 1: last year. But there was in his seminal year two

2680
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:15,960
Speaker 1: years ago when they got to the super Bowl and

2681
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 1: had a twenty eight point lead. I'm sorry, when they

2682
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 1: had a twenty eight point lead on the New England Patriots.

2683
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 1: That season, Matt Matt Ryan only threw six touchdowns to

2684
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:30,000
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. He spread the football around. Of the twenty

2685
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 1: six touchdowns he threw, only six of them were to

2686
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Thirteen other guys had touchdowns in that season. Now, granted,

2687
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 1: Julio Jones was a force on that team and was

2688
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 1: in tilted covered sometimes and all that, But no that

2689
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and Matt Ryan are good enough to

2690
02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:49,600
Speaker 1: be successful, particularly in their division. Without Julio Jones. They'll

2691
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 1: miss him, but I think they'll still be an effective offense. Disagreed,

2692
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 1: Steve says false. I say true. That's NFL true or false.

2693
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:00,160
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Speaker 1: Jeff missourik on he is the Bills Director of Equipment

2702
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 1: Operations twenty one years. He's been with the Bills, got

2703
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:38,960
Speaker 1: the entire thing moved out to Rochester now for the

2704
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 1: first practice tomorrow. We asked Jeff Missouri, what do you

2705
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 1: take what gets set to training camp every year? Here's

2706
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 1: what he said. You know, we came out with eighteen

2707
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 1: total trucks. You're looking at six fifty foot trailers, about

2708
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:58,920
Speaker 1: twelve twenty six foot straight trucks. And that's just like

2709
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 1: my department, the video operation, the athletic trainers, UM Sports Performance,

2710
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:09,280
Speaker 1: and then two whole flatbeds. I'm sure people saw him

2711
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 1: coming down to ninety with all of our our sleds

2712
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:16,440
Speaker 1: for field equipment that the guys hit, UM the dummies, scoreboards,

2713
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 1: UM Big Maths, the Big math camps, the video guys

2714
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 1: used for video. That are two trailer loads of those,

2715
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 1: so I mean it was about what four It took

2716
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:28,800
Speaker 1: us about four days total to get everything. A lot.

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Speaker 1: They took a lot of stuff out to Rochester. You

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Speaker 1: tell me that doesn't cost a pretty penny. That's truck

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Speaker 1: that can't happen forever. We'll see. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I want to spend that kind of money. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to have me budget needs. We had Vincent's Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coming out of your pocket, Vincent bonsing your joined us

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Speaker 1: from the La Daily News, and we talked about the

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Speaker 1: Rams and Todd Gurley's sixty million dollars contract extension. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he had to say. And I think the Rams are,

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Speaker 1: you know, making a little bit of a calculated riffs.

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Speaker 1: Yet they're resetting the running back market. But it could

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Speaker 1: get said again here pretty soon. And they'd rather be

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Speaker 1: in this position than a year down the road if

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Speaker 1: they hadn't done this. And somebody crazily give Levon Belt

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Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars a year, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley and his agent are knocking on Less snee

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Speaker 1: and Kevin demockstar saying, well, there's our starting point. For

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Speaker 1: contract negotiations. The sixty million dollars a year, so I

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Speaker 1: kind of want to defeat people to the punch. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they overpaid for Todd Gurley. Well, that remains to be seen.

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Speaker 1: But usually the nature of these things, it's going to

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Speaker 1: go probably a little bit higher, and so a couple

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Speaker 1: of years down the road, this could look like a

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Speaker 1: pretty good deal. Rames are interesting, Chargers are too. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying I like those teams that they find them

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Speaker 1: both pretty interesting. Hey, on Twitter today we learned this.

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Speaker 1: We asked you who do you want the Bills to

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Speaker 1: start a quarterback on opening Day in Baltimore and what

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Speaker 1: needs to happen for him to win the job. We

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Speaker 1: took phone calls, we took tweets. On Twitter, Forty four

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Speaker 1: percent of you say you want Josh Allen to be

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Speaker 1: the starter on opening day. Thirty four percent of you

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Speaker 1: say you want a j. McCarron, seventy percent say Nathan Peterman,

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Speaker 1: four percent you voted for somebody else. I want Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen too, Steve, I don't expect it, but I want him.

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Speaker 1: What about you? I agree? I mean that's because you

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Speaker 1: know certain things are gonna have to happen. For him

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Speaker 1: to do that, he's gonna have to act absolutely outperform

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Speaker 1: two guys who have had some time in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and taken snaps. AJ McCarron being one who's had significant snaps.

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Speaker 1: Four games he played and started for a team that

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Speaker 1: was in the playoffs and played pretty well. To have

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen come in compete head up with those guys

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Speaker 1: and win, I think says something about his progress. That's

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Speaker 1: something about his future, no question. It doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 1: not going to struggle when he does take over or

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Speaker 1: if he does take over on opening day, but it

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Speaker 1: does say something about the progress he's made thus far,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you want to see. We're gonna look

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Speaker 1: at it starting tomorrow, five thirty practice. We'll be out

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Speaker 1: there at training camp noon to three tomorrow. Production assistants

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Colteneck Thomas, honld Er, Kelly Rude, Jjjarito,

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Speaker 1: James Robol, and Kevin Cargis. Her producer Jay Harris Samara

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