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Speaker 1: What is going on y'all? Long time no talk.

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Speaker 2: This is another episode of the Beatdown podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Senior RYK for the Washington Commanders Zach Selby, and it

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Speaker 2: has been a while since we last spoke for various reasons.

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Speaker 2: For one, Thanksgiving happened, I went down to see my

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Speaker 2: family before the team went and played the Titans. They

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Speaker 2: won forty two to nineteen, and then to the Byeway.

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Speaker 2: There's obviously no games, so we did not get a

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Speaker 2: chance to talk, and I went to Disney World because

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Speaker 2: that sounded a lot better than just being up here.

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Speaker 1: But it did.

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Speaker 2: It did feel a lot better knowing that they come.

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Speaker 2: The Commanders came out of that Week fourteen matchup or

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Speaker 2: Week thirteen matchup with a win, going to eight and five.

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Speaker 2: They are in position for a playoff push there in

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Speaker 2: the number seven seed, with the possibility maybe to move

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Speaker 2: up into the number six seed. But they also have

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Speaker 2: teams like the Rams and the Bucceteers and all of

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Speaker 2: all these other teams pushing for another playoff position behind them.

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Speaker 1: They have some tie breakers here and there.

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Speaker 2: But the good thing is if they went out or

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Speaker 2: go three and one, they're in the playoffs. That is

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Speaker 2: the most important thing for the Commanders to worry about.

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Speaker 2: And their next up coming off this by week rested

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Speaker 2: and relaxed, will be a road matchup against the New

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Speaker 2: Orleans Say it's a very tough place to play that

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Speaker 2: they are five and eight right now, but that is

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Speaker 2: a very feisty team. But either way, this is a

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Speaker 2: must win game for the Commanders if they want to

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Speaker 2: get to the postseason, and how are they going.

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Speaker 3: To do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, that is what we're going to discuss today. With me,

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Speaker 2: we have two guests, Liam Griffin from the Washington Times. Liam,

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Speaker 2: how you do it? I heard you know you were

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Speaker 2: on the injury report with a with a cold. Are

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Speaker 2: you off the injury report?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: We're questionable for Sunday's game, but it's looking like I'll

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Speaker 3: be there all right.

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Speaker 2: That's that's trending very well. We like to hear that,

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Speaker 2: not unlike another player we are going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about today. And with me, we have John Deschasier from

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Speaker 2: the Saints. He is their senior are John? How are

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Speaker 2: we doing over there in New Orleans?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 5: Liam sounds like he's a game time decision, But I'm

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Speaker 5: good right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm cleared to go.

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Speaker 1: Well, there we go.

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Speaker 2: We love to hear it and everyone listening they know

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Speaker 2: the spiel and they then they know the deal. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be asking these guys three questions, one an offense,

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Speaker 2: one a defense, one a more general question. There will

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Speaker 2: be points given evy end of each round, there will

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Speaker 2: be a winner, and because it is my podcast, I

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Speaker 2: get to do whatever I want and I get to

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Speaker 2: name the winner. But again, like I've said every single week,

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Speaker 2: you should not focus too much on who wins and

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Speaker 2: who loses, in my opinion, needs to be more focused

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Speaker 2: on the takes and information that these guys are going

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Speaker 2: to present to you because you want to be informed

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Speaker 2: about this weekend's matchup. So, without further ado, let's get

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Speaker 2: into it. Starting with I think was probably the most

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Speaker 2: important or the least most talked about topic heading into

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Speaker 2: this game, was the status of Marshall Lattimore, who the

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Speaker 2: Committeers traded for from the New Orleans Saints. He has

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Speaker 2: been dealing with a hamstring injury, plus they want to

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Speaker 2: He has been out and been practicing here and there

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Speaker 2: for the last month or so he was a full

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Speaker 2: we will see what his status is going to be

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the week. But the least is

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Speaker 2: you because this is something I think that Washington fans

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Speaker 2: what kind of difference do you think he's going to

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Speaker 3: Well, he's going to make an immediate impact on this defense.

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Speaker 3: They play just predominantly Cover three and that has been

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Speaker 3: Benjamin Saint Jeus and Mike Saint Ristol have done admirably

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Speaker 3: A J. Brown, George Pickens, Malik Neighbors, Ceedee Lamb have

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Speaker 3: kind of feasted on this commander's defense just based on

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Speaker 2: Yes, it can, especially with what he's in man coverage.

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Speaker 2: I think he hasn't allowed a touchdown single coverage since

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Speaker 2: Adam Peters Dan Clinton both talked about him being a dog,

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Speaker 2: you know, with the Saints offense, who are dealing with,

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Speaker 2: New Orleans. But how does having Marshall Laddimore, assuming he plays,

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Speaker 2: how does that affect the way they're going to approach

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Speaker 5: Well, let's throw the assumption part out of it. Lat

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Speaker 5: I'm not a doctor, but I guarantee you Lat's going

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Speaker 5: Now that might may work into the Saints favorite because

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Speaker 4: An unknown and we've seen over the years here in

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Speaker 5: Now, latt if he drifts mentally, there are receivers who

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Speaker 4: So he is a guy.

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Speaker 5: But I think he'll be locked in on Sunday, obviously

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Speaker 4: But I also.

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Speaker 5: Don't necessarily know that the Saints have any number one

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Speaker 4: Of the game, unless it's MVS.

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Speaker 5: And even then the Saints have some other weapons they

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Speaker 4: But we understand here, especially.

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Speaker 5: Marshawn Lattimore is a rare commodity at cornerback. That's why

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Speaker 5: that's why those guys get paid what they get paid.

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Speaker 5: We saw him against Julio Jones, we saw him against

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Speaker 2: You know, I whenever it was first announced that the

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Speaker 1: You know, so so.

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Speaker 2: Liam, you know, John mentioned, you know, Marcus dot Is scaling,

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Speaker 1: We've seen it a lot of a lot of other times.

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people were expecting that

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Speaker 1: And also I think it's some people think.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe what he wants to do, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about that? Do you think that

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Speaker 2: with Latimore out there covering these guys, whoever's going to

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Speaker 2: more aggressive in rushing the past or in.

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Speaker 1: Some of the other other calls that they that they

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Speaker 6: Well, that's the exact point that I was going to make.

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Speaker 3: I think what it provides really for the defense is flexibility.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're not having to game plan around a

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Speaker 3: bad things were getting there. And so having marshaw On

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Speaker 3: Lottmore out there just opens up your play calling as

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Speaker 3: even if Latimore is not, you know, making interceptions, that

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Speaker 3: Have been reluctant to throw his way, and so especially

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Speaker 2: I think it could too, and I think it's really

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Speaker 4: You know, at least secure the football.

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Speaker 5: But again, I just I think it might be that

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Speaker 5: But again, both of those guys are gonna be working

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Speaker 4: They're gonna see what he's made of. They're gonna under

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Speaker 5: You've got to expect that they're going to go after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Haynard throws with a with a

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Speaker 4: So you got to be able to take away something.

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Speaker 5: And hopefully force you know, I don't know how wise

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Speaker 2: You know that that's a good point because you know,

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Speaker 2: around like twenty eighth I think in rushing yards allowed.

438
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Speaker 2: So what what do you think the Commanders are going

439
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Speaker 2: to do to you know, at least styn Me a

440
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Speaker 2: little bit of Kamara's production.

441
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Speaker 3: Well, and that's what you have to look at too,

442
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Speaker 3: is not just the total amount of rushing yards, but

443
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Speaker 3: against those premier backs, like you look at the numbers

444
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Speaker 3: that Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley put up.

445
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Speaker 6: Those two backs really.

446
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Speaker 3: Controlled those games, especially as the clock take towards the

447
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. And so this is an opportunity for the

448
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Speaker 3: Commanders to show that they've learned from those mistakes.

449
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Speaker 6: It's been a few weeks.

450
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Speaker 3: Since they've come across the running back of that caliber,

451
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Speaker 3: and so I think they're going to try to rely

452
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Speaker 3: on their scheme as much as possible and just making

453
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Speaker 3: sure that their front seven are filling in those gaps

454
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Speaker 3: as much as possible, not over pursuing, not trying to

455
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Speaker 3: do too much.

456
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Speaker 6: The coaching staff talks a lot about, you know, trying.

457
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Speaker 3: To make sure that players on both sides of the

458
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Speaker 3: ball don't try to become heroes, and so trying to

459
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Speaker 3: just make sure that the defense is disciplined as much

460
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Speaker 3: as possible in their aggression. And also this was an

461
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Speaker 3: issue earlier in the season, tackling like it sounds overly simplified,

462
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Speaker 3: but that's really been kind of inconsistent for the Commanders,

463
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Speaker 3: more so in the secondary a lot of times. But

464
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Speaker 3: everyone has to be able to tackle effectively because Alvin

465
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Speaker 3: Kamara is so shifty that if it's going to take

466
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Speaker 3: multiple guys spring him down, he's going to to find

467
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 3: his way downfield over and over in NBA terms, if

468
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Speaker 3: you look at his usage rates, you know, like the

469
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Speaker 3: total amount of targets and rushing attempts, he's getting the

470
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Speaker 3: ball on about you know, forty percent of the Saints snaps,

471
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Speaker 3: and so you just look at the law of large

472
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Speaker 3: numbers there. All Right, we got him down, you know,

473
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Speaker 3: a couple times, but we'd let him lose once. That

474
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Speaker 3: can be a kind of game changing play and a

475
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Speaker 3: really big momentum swing in a game like this, especially

476
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Speaker 3: when you're on the road in the Superdome as well,

477
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Speaker 3: and so you're going to want to see You're going

478
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Speaker 3: to want to see these Commanders linebackers especially, wrap up, tackle,

479
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,959
Speaker 3: don't over pursue, don't get burned on the cutback. Because

480
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Speaker 3: without Taysom Hill, with al Rashid Shihi, without Chris o'lav

481
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 3: this Saints offense is going to run through Alvin Kamara,

482
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Speaker 3: and that's why I think you're really going to need

483
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 3: a big game from Frankie Luverm and Bobby Wagner as

484
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Speaker 3: they're patrolling sideline to sideline against this zone running scheme

485
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Speaker 3: of the Saints. It's going to rely on them to

486
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Speaker 3: be able to shoot those gaps and wrap up and

487
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Speaker 3: make those tackles.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the tackling point I think is pretty big because

489
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Speaker 2: that was that was a that was a frustration point.

490
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, just for people watching in for

491
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Speaker 2: them obviously, you know, at the beginning part of the season,

492
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Speaker 2: and you know, to to Washington's credit, I mean, they

493
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Speaker 2: did hold the Titans to thirty five that rushing guards

494
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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, and I mean the Titans aren't necessarily

495
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Speaker 2: a dynamic offense by any means, but they were a

496
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Speaker 2: team that was trying to establish a good ground attack

497
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Speaker 2: and they that's probably something they were better at that

498
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Speaker 2: than passing. I mean, that was the fewest yards that

499
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Speaker 2: they've allowed on the ground since you know, twenty twenty

500
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Speaker 2: two against the Houston Texans. So maybe they're you hope

501
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Speaker 2: that that is the start of something a little bit

502
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Speaker 2: a little bit better, uh.

503
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Speaker 1: For for for Washington defense.

504
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Speaker 2: Now, now, John, you mentioned you know what, We'll kind

505
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Speaker 2: of branch out a little bit here in terms of

506
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Speaker 2: like the rushing game. You mentioned mobile quarterbacks, And if

507
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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I think that the Saints have kind

508
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Speaker 2: of struggled a little bit against play action passes, against

509
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Speaker 2: mobile quarterbacks who were able to scramble a little bit.

510
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Speaker 1: Maybe why do you think that is?

511
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Speaker 2: And like, I mean, what do you think is there

512
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Speaker 2: is there a plan for getting Jane Daniel's office spot,

513
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Speaker 2: like you mentioned earlier, Like, I mean, what do you

514
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Speaker 2: think how a Saint's planning on stopping Jane Daniels with

515
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Speaker 2: with the use of his legs?

516
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, they could dedicate a spy to him.

517
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Speaker 5: And I don't necessarily know that they've done that a

518
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Speaker 5: whole lot this season, but they could dedicate a spy

519
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 5: to him. But a lot of what the Saints issues

520
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 5: have been has been just assignment football. They get out

521
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 5: of their lanes, rush lanes, and mobile quarterbacks have had.

522
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Speaker 4: Field days against them this season.

523
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Speaker 5: Whether it be and we can go all the way

524
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Speaker 5: back to Jalen Hurts in Week three, it's just been

525
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Speaker 5: a persistent issue for this team, even last week with

526
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Speaker 5: Drew Locke who ran for like fifty nine yards or

527
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Speaker 5: something on you know, seven eight carries. You know, it's

528
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Speaker 5: just been an issue for this team being able to

529
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Speaker 5: account for mobile quarterbacks.

530
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Speaker 4: And this is not just a season long issue.

531
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Speaker 5: This has been you know, seasons plural long, like the

532
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Speaker 5: last three four seasons where they've had these issues with

533
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Speaker 5: mobile quarterbacks. And we understand that most teams in the NFL,

534
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Speaker 5: do you know, there hadn't been a whole lot of

535
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Speaker 5: teams that have been really successful stopping Jayden Daniels from scrambling,

536
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 5: and at the Saints have to be better at it because.

537
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Speaker 4: They understand that dual threat.

538
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Speaker 5: And when you get a guy moving around and his

539
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: receivers understand how the scramble drill with him, then that

540
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 5: presents some myriad issues for your secondary because guys can

541
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Speaker 5: only cover for so long and before you know, you

542
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 5: can't plaster forever. And so you know, that's one of

543
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 5: those issues where they've been trying to address it and

544
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 5: trying to address it, and they have not been able

545
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Speaker 5: to address it.

546
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Speaker 4: Unfortunately. Basically the only.

547
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Speaker 5: Quarterbacks they've had success against some guys like Kirk Cousins,

548
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Speaker 5: who you know where they're going to be yea.

549
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Speaker 4: But other than that, when.

550
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Speaker 5: You've had mobile quarterbacks, it's been an issue for the

551
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Speaker 5: Saints and I'm just not exactly sure how they're going

552
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Speaker 5: to deal with it except by being better assignment football.

553
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Speaker 5: When they rush, they've got to maintain their rush lane

554
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Speaker 5: integrity because when guys slip out is when they have

555
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 5: a lot of issues going because if you have everybody

556
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Speaker 5: in coverage, can be tough to turn around and find

557
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Speaker 5: the guy a lot of times before he's ten twelve

558
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Speaker 5: yards down the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

560
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Speaker 2: No, and Jaden hasn't rushed the ball two too much

561
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Speaker 2: other than you know, they have eighty yards against the Buccaneers.

562
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Speaker 2: But when he does roswell, it is effective, very very

563
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Speaker 2: effective because at least at least gives the defense enough

564
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Speaker 2: reason to account for it. And you know, I am

565
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Speaker 2: very curious about the Saints are going to want to

566
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Speaker 2: address that now, leading real quick before we move on

567
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Speaker 2: to the final question here. Chris Rodriguez had ninety four

568
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Speaker 2: rushing yards against the Titans, which you know is a

569
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Speaker 2: career high for him.

570
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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you expect out of him?

571
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Speaker 2: You know, assuming that they're that you know that Saints

572
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Speaker 2: if if they can stop Brian Robinson, you know, how

573
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Speaker 2: do you expect how do you expect Rodriguez to perform

574
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Speaker 2: against the Saints.

575
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Speaker 3: Well, what I would hope to see is, if I'm

576
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Speaker 3: a Commander's fan, is I'd want to see the Commanders

577
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Speaker 3: go back to some of those two running back backfields

578
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Speaker 3: that they employed when Austin Eckler was healthy. That's the

579
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Speaker 3: thing they used a lot with Austin Eckler and Brian

580
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Speaker 3: Robinson in the backfield with Jayden Daniels, and that opens

581
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Speaker 3: up a lot of possibilities in the run game and

582
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Speaker 3: the passing game. And due to injuries to Austin Eckler

583
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Speaker 3: did injuries with Brian Robinson, they haven't really been able

584
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Speaker 3: to eBrace that throughout the season. And even with Jamie McNichols,

585
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Speaker 3: who's a back that they like a lot, they haven't

586
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: really fully embraced that scheme again. And I think that

587
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Speaker 3: with Chris Rodriguez's performance last week, obviously that was a

588
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: lot of game script stuff as well. Same thing with

589
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Speaker 3: you know, the Titans rushing offense really into performing.

590
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Speaker 6: That game got out of hand pretty quickly.

591
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Speaker 3: But I think that just the way he was running

592
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Speaker 3: really shot some confidence into this coaching staff as they

593
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: look to use.

594
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Speaker 6: Him more this week.

595
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Speaker 3: I think he's someone that especially as they're looking into

596
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: a foreman an offense on either end of the halves.

597
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: When Brian Robinson needs a break, they don't feel the

598
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Speaker 3: need to run him into the ground. They're okay, saying

599
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: like all right, you know, Rodriguez, get out there.

600
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Speaker 6: We're going to run it down their throats.

601
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Speaker 3: And I think that comfort level is something that can

602
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: really open up a lot for this offense.

603
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think, you know, he's a real physical guy.

604
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Speaker 2: And I think and I've been looking everywhere for you know,

605
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Peyton Barber back in twenty twenty to be mister third

606
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Speaker 2: and two d because he was just so reliable that

607
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: he could pick up those third downs.

608
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Speaker 1: And maybe Chris Rodriguez is that guy.

609
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, but we're up against the clock. So

610
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 2: we were gonna move on to the final question here,

611
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be very simple, guys. You know, obviously

612
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of big, peaky players on Sunday.

613
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Speaker 2: We've talked about a few of them. Liam will start

614
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Speaker 2: with you, who is a one player he you think

615
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: is gonna make the biggest difference for the Commanders on Sunday,

616
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Speaker 2: and you know, let's let's make it fun here and

617
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Speaker 2: you remove the big names like Jaden and Terry and

618
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Speaker 2: and and Marshaw on the players like that.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So for me, this is somebody that I alluded

620
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Speaker 3: to early earlier. I think it's Frankie Luvu. I think

621
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Speaker 3: he's someone that is so versatile on this defense and

622
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Speaker 3: especially against the Saints offense. I think he whether he

623
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: has a great day, whether he has a terrible day,

624
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: I think that's going to kind of dictate the flow

625
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Speaker 3: of this game.

626
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Speaker 6: You look at what he does as a pass rusher.

627
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Speaker 3: He has hold on the head of number in front

628
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: of me, but he's been incredible rushing the passer this year.

629
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Speaker 3: And it's not saying he's doing every down, but when

630
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: he does, it's incredibly effective. And so that's something that

631
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: whether it's Jay Cane or whether it's Spencer Rattler, they're

632
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 3: gonna have to account for Number four. They're gonna have

633
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: to look out for him, especially on those you know,

634
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: third and longs, on those designated pass downs. He's someone

635
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: that can disrupt the passer. When you look at, you know,

636
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: on Alvin Kamara's runs, especially on those outside zones, those

637
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: are something that can break big.

638
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 6: But Frankie Louvu is rangy. He's someone who is going

639
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 6: to want to shoot those gaps.

640
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: He's going to want to blow up those runs, and

641
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: that's something that can shift the momentum. That's something that

642
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: can you know, bring a lot of energy for that defense.

643
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: And that's something that I think is going to be

644
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: important at an away game at the Superdome. I don't

645
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: think you can understate the effect of something like that.

646
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: You want to set a tone early and you don't

647
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: want to get in any kind of hole. You don't

648
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: want to give the Saints.

649
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 6: Any room to breathe.

650
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: And even then, when you look at Alvin Kamara coming

651
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: out of the backfield, it's going to rely on Bobby

652
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: Wagner and Frankie Louvu to make that first tackle.

653
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 6: Alvin Kamara is not running a bunch of routes downfield.

654
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: Really, his average depth of target is right at the

655
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and so it's going to be on

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Speaker 3: Luvu and Wagner to wrap up and make that tackle

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Speaker 3: before he can get downfield.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true, Lou has been a monster all year and

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Speaker 2: if you haven't voted for him for the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 2: you should definitely do that.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

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Speaker 2: So John, same question to you by more of a

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Speaker 2: Saints angle here, what's one player you think that may

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Speaker 2: the biggest difference for New Orleans on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess the easy at will say the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: but I'm going to go a different ROUNDE. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to go with Brian Razide, the defensive tackle. He's got

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Speaker 5: seven a half snacks, and if the Saints win this game,

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Speaker 5: it's going to have to be defensively, I think. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to be able to match

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Speaker 5: up with Washington or anybody else right now in a shootout,

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Speaker 5: so they're gonna have to figure out a way to

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Speaker 5: slow down Washington's offense. And Brazil in the middle of

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Speaker 5: that defensive line has been effective all season. He's racking

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Speaker 5: up the sacks. As I mentioned, he's got seven and

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Speaker 5: a half. He's applied really good pressure to the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: and now we're seeing he and the guy you guys

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Speaker 5: are familiar with, Jase Young, have been a really good

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Speaker 5: tandem defensive line in terms of applying the pressure, and

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Speaker 5: those are probably the two guys who are going to

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Speaker 5: apply the most pressure to Jane Daniels.

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Speaker 4: And at some point you got to be able to

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Speaker 4: get that guy on the ground.

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Speaker 5: If you're not able to get him on the ground

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Speaker 5: and get him off his marks and maybe force him

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Speaker 5: into some issues and some mistakes, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 5: difficult day for you. So I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: Brian Brazi, and I think he is certainly capable of

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Speaker 5: having a big game.

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Speaker 2: I do personally. I love Brazil. I think he's been

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Speaker 2: a exceptional player. I think he's been one of the

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Speaker 2: best young interior defensive linemen in the league right now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm really excited to see where his career goes.

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Speaker 2: And as But as much as I do love Brazi, Liam,

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Speaker 2: I gotta give you the victory here because I just

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Speaker 2: love Frankie Luban.

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Speaker 1: I think love the way he's able to play.

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Speaker 2: If you guys are tired hanging the last round, but

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Speaker 2: I think Louis will kind of put it over the

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Speaker 2: top for me.

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Speaker 1: Liam, Do you have any parting words of victory for

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Speaker 1: us be where we get out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's two appearances on this show for

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Speaker 3: me and two victories. I know the wins don't matter,

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Speaker 3: but you know who's counting me.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about it, you know, anybody like on who's

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Speaker 2: lines anyway on around the Horn if they if they

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Speaker 2: say that the wins don't matter, their line, they they

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Speaker 2: they keep Italia that somewhere. But like Liam, hopefully the

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Speaker 2: Commanders will be coming out with a win, which would

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Speaker 2: be putting him at nine to five, first winning season

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Speaker 2: and since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: How about that.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive for this franchise, especially in the first

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Speaker 2: year of a new program, and we're all gonna be

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Speaker 2: very excited to see what they do, not just next week,

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Speaker 2: but in the future. John Liam, I appreciate having you

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Speaker 2: guys on here. It's been fantastic and this has been

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Speaker 2: the beatdown