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Baylor Shireman, their 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: draft pick at shot the ball poorly in preseason, but 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be in the rotation much. You know, 99 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: we might see a guy like Lonnie Walker, who had 100 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: some impressive driving kick possessions. We might see him make 101 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: the roster and see some opportunities but none of it 102 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: really matters. The core eight for the Boston Celtics is 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: the core eight. Derek White, Drew Holliday, Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum, Chrisopsporzingis, 104 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Al Horford, Peyton Pritchard, and Sam Houser. That's their player rotation. 105 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: I think it's the best top eight in the NBA. 106 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: My friend Sam Vessini was saying on the show yesterday 107 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: that he thinks Minnesota's top eight is the best in 108 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: the NBA. I think I disagree with him, Like, Yeah, 109 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: Dante DiVincenzo, Nikhil, Alexander Walker and nasried are a better 110 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: trio than Al Horford, Peyton, Pritchard and the same Hauser. 111 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: But the top five are just so much better for Boston. 112 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I think I'd take Oklahoma 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: City's top eight before I would take Minnesota's top eight. 114 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: But I think boston That top eight rotation is rock solid. 115 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: Pritchard and Howser both really flashed defensive upside in the postseason. 116 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Upsides the wrong word. They held up well off in 117 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: the postseason. They got hunted consistently as you would expect, 118 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: and they held up well. Porzingis brought everything that we 119 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: in the brief stints where he was actually available. He 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: brought everything that we knew that we were that Boston 121 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: needed from him in terms of rim protection and matchup 122 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: attacking on switches and ball screens. It all just came 123 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: together perfectly in a dominant playoff run. They've looked completely 124 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: locked in and ready to go in the preseason. They're 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: four and one. They have the best offense in the 126 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: league one twenty one offensive rating that's five point seven 127 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: points better than the second best offense in preseason insane. 128 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: They're averaging fifty three three point attempts per game. They 129 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: have a sixty one percent for shooting. As a team. 130 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Boston's offensive system is just the best that we have 131 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: in the league right now, most talented that we have 132 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: in the league right now. It's like a well oiled machine. 133 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: The defense has been fined in preseason. They have a 134 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: plus sixteen point three net rating in preseason that's the 135 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: best in the league by five point three points. So 136 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: just continuing their dominance. Jason Tatum looks great, as Jumper looks. 137 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: I just kind of reconfigured and just it's almost like 138 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: he just took a moment to reset and just kind 139 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: of find his foundation, find his base again as a 140 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: jump shooter one point one to three points per jump 141 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: shot in preseason, one point two points per catch and 142 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: shoot jump shot, one point zero eight off the dribble, 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: all really good. I think the Celtics will face some 144 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: substantially tougher playoff competition this year, and I'm going to 145 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: get into that concept a little bit more here in 146 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: a second. But I also think that they'll have a 147 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: substantially better version of Jason Tatum at their disposal in 148 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs than they did last year, and I think 149 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: that that is going to put them in a position 150 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: to handle a tougher playoff run. Think like the twenty 151 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: sixteen Golden State Warriors team. You know, I've seen a 152 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: lot of There's been a lot of like kind of 153 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: like argument among basketball fans between Celtics fans and the 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: rest about like how to regard last year's team, And 155 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: part of the disconnect is like a lot of Boston 156 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: fans want that team to be regarded as all time great, 157 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: and my point of view on that is there's no 158 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: such thing as an all time great team until you've 159 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: won multiple championships. That to me is like the baseline, right. 160 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: And one of the things that happens is when you 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: on the course of a run to a championship, you 162 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: need some luck, right, And there are lots of teams 163 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: in NBA history that have benefited from luck on their 164 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: way to an NBA championship. But that is why the 165 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: all time great teams we typically look at multiple championships 166 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: because it's as circumstances change, as things go different, you 167 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: have to legitimize your championship when things don't go the 168 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: way that you want them to, right. Like just take 169 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: most recently the twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen Warriors. Now 170 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: they had a massive talent advantage, even to a greater 171 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: extent than the Celtics, but they went in twenty seventeen 172 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: beat the shit out of everybody. They went fifteen straight 173 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: playoff games. Right. But the next year it's like, all 174 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's this Houston Rockets team. It's really interesting. 175 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: They take a three to two lead in the series. Now, 176 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: obviously they benefit from more luck in the form of 177 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Chris Paul getting injured, but inevitably what happens is you 178 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: see some different circumstances and it's about overcoming adversity. You 179 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: look back at the Warriors dynasty and like there are 180 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: some easy ones in there, right, Like there's the two 181 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, in twenty eighteen where they just kicked 182 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: everybody's ass with talent. But it's like then we have 183 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen where they came back from two separate tow 184 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: to one deficits. Right, we go back to the twenty 185 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: twenty two series against the Celtics where they're down to 186 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: one on the road, they need a big win. You 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: look at the totality of their success, it looks different 188 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: going back previously to the previous Heat champion, the Miami Heat, 189 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: right twenty twelve, they kind of handle everybody. Even in 190 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: the finals, they end up getting out of there in 191 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: five games. There's like a little bit of a brief 192 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of thing with the Boston Celtics in the conference 193 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: was that in the finals. I think it was in 194 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: the conference finals, but there was a little bit of 195 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: adversity there, but they kind of kick butt. Then you 196 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: get into the twenty thirteen season, it's like this grueling 197 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: seven game series against the Pacers, this grueling seven game 198 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: series against the San Antonio Spurs, and by the time 199 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: they win the title, it's just like it just kind 200 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: of adds like a different layer to it. Right, So 201 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: think like the twenty sixteen Golden State team, Right, they 202 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: get super lucky in a bunch of different ways in 203 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: that playoff run. Every single team they play as guys hurt. 204 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Now of the lineup, they end up going into that 205 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: gold that Cleveland Cavaliers series, and Kyrie Irving gets hurt 206 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: in the first game, Kevin Love had his shoulder dislocated 207 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: in the first round, and it's like Golden State wins, 208 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: and then outside of the Golden State fan base, there's 209 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: just a lot of like people talking like like, yeah, 210 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: they got lucky this, Yeah they you know, let's see 211 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: him do it ag next year. They come out next 212 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: year and they just start beating everybody's ass. And then yeah, 213 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: we obviously had that weird kind of NBA Finals series 214 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: where they end up losing. But as we zoom out 215 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: from the Warriors dynasty, it's clearly legitimate. There's four championships, 216 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Steph Curry as all these big moments. It just has 217 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: this like kind of aura in retrospect that legitimizes everything 218 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: that they do. And so that's the thing like, was 219 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: there some luck for the Celtics last year. Yeah, Like 220 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: there was the five best teams in the league, they 221 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: didn't have to play any of them, right, And that's 222 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: just kind of part of how basketball goes. This year 223 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: will be tougher, go kick everyone's ass and shut them 224 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: all up. I've seen a lot of people say things like, well, 225 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: we're all time great because of the advanced metrics. No 226 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: one cares about the advanced metrics in an Eastern Conference 227 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: where you're beating the shit out of really bad teams 228 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the nights. Multiple trophies is where you 229 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: get that respect. That is the opportunity that lies before Boston. 230 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: As we look back to previous champions, look at how 231 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: all of them are regarded. Denver one, but then they 232 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: didn't get an and so now a lot of people 233 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: are already right in Denver off and no one's going 234 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: to regard Denver as an all time great team unless 235 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: they win another one here in the next year or two. Right. 236 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: Going back to that Warriors team into twenty twenty two 237 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: is really cool, but they kind of fell off again 238 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: the next year, so no one views that twenty twenty 239 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: two team as some sort of all time great team. Right, 240 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: going back to twenty twenty one with the Milwaukee Bucks, 241 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: like impressive team, there hasn't been anything after that to 242 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: legitimize it. I thought that Lakers team in twenty twenty 243 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: was really good, but then they got started to run 244 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: into some injury stuff, and then they fucked up their 245 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: roster doing some stupid stuff in the front office. Right, 246 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: the Raptors end up losing Kawhi Like. There is the 247 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: only way that a championship team can truly resonate on 248 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: a level that lasts is to get multiple That's the 249 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: way it goes. When we look back at the great 250 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: teams in NBA history, who are they. It's the Warriors 251 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: they won four. It's the heat they won two. It's 252 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers in the twenty tens they won two, The 253 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: Spurs they won five, the Kobe, the shack Lakers they 254 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: win three, the Bulls they win six, the Rockets they 255 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: win two, the Pistons they win two, the Lakers and 256 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Celtics in the eighties. Like, you've got to put together 257 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: multiple iconic playoff runs in order to truly resonate on 258 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: that level. But that said, this team has that potential. 259 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: So let's get into it a little bit more and 260 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: talk about what a repeat would look like for this 261 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: particular team. First of all, I want to address one weakness, 262 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: the one specific weakness that this team has. They're a 263 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: little bit thin at the center position and a little 264 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: bit old and frail in their best player group, right 265 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: with Horford and Porzingis. How Horford turns thirty nine before 266 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals this year. Porzingis gets hurt every year, 267 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: and he's hurt all ready to start this year from 268 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: an injury suffered last year in the postseason. But Brad 269 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: Stevens has done a really nice job at building out 270 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: like a deep rotation of backup centers. They have five 271 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: centers that are going to be on their season opening 272 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: roster right like Luke Cornett, nimas Queda, and Javier Tillman 273 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: are all going to get the like the majority of 274 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: the center minutes to start the year. I think they're 275 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: going to manage Al Horford very carefully to start the year. 276 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to compensate for Porzingis being 277 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: out by just riding Al Horford into the ground. They're 278 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna run off of these backup centers and playing center 279 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: for the Celtics is an easy job. They're always flanked 280 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: by excellent perimeter defenders and athletes who could shoot, and 281 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: they just make life easier for them. Right. Will they 282 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: drop a few regular season games here and there because 283 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: they're running a week drop coverage with a week center. Sure, 284 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: they're going to drop some games, But the most important 285 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: thing for this team is to manage their health so 286 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: that Porzingis and Horford are ready to go in April. 287 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Because when Porzingis is healthy, they look like far and 288 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: away the best team in basketball. So here's my prediction 289 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: for the season. I think they'll run away with the 290 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: best record in the league. Again, they're built for regular 291 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: season basketball, just with the depth and the way that 292 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: their system kind of generates shots in the way that 293 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: they defend. I think they're gonna end up with a 294 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: large margin over the number two seed in the East. Again, 295 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: I think they'll end up several games ahead of Oklahoma City. 296 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Like I think Oklahoma City is at least relatively close 297 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: to Boston and Talent now after the acquisitions of Hartenstein 298 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: and Caruso. But the East has seven bad teams. Like 299 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: I looked at the Celtic schedule this year, they have 300 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: four games against the Hawks, four games against the Nets, 301 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: four games against the Bowls, four games against the Hornets, 302 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: three games against the Pistons, four games against the Raptors, 303 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: three games against the Wizards. Like they might drop a 304 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: game or two there, but they're going to go like 305 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: twenty five and one against that set, or twenty four 306 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: and two. Like last year in that same set of teams, 307 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: they dropped three really close games to Charlotte Atlanta, two 308 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: of them went to overtime. You could argue they should 309 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: have gone undefeated against that group. So like that I 310 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: think will keep a good, healthy gap between them in 311 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City because o the Oklahoma City has to play 312 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: that Western Conference schedule, they're not playing any of those 313 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference teams more than twice, and the West has 314 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: thirteen teams that legitimately think they can make the playoffs 315 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: and be good. So like I would imagine that Boston 316 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: is going to end around sixty five wins with a 317 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: healthy advantage in the East and a little bit of 318 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: an advantage over the West. My guess is that they'll 319 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: be the runaway number one overall seed. As for the playoffs, 320 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: I think there are teams that are capable of taking 321 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: them out, But I would pick Boston in each matchup. 322 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Like the Knicks, I'm having a really hard time getting there. 323 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: I've looked at it a lot in light of the 324 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns edition. I just think the Celtics are 325 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: a better version of the Knicks. I don't think there 326 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: are enough matchup advantages there for the Knicks to potentially 327 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: swing that series. Obviously, with the Sixers, it's like what 328 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: if embiid is just healthy in April and finally has 329 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: this breakout playoff run. But that feels like a long shot. 330 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: We've been talking about that for years. Right the Bucks, 331 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: I think they're too slow on the perimeter. I also 332 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: think that they have the personnel to switch the Damiannis 333 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: pick and roll when things really slow down, which most 334 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: teams don't have. Like I think you put Jalen Brown 335 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: on Dame and you put Tatum on Giannis and you 336 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: just switch that action, and I think that puts them 337 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: in an advantageous position and slow down half court environments. 338 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: I have a really hard time seeing Boston lose out East. Like, 339 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: I think that it's far more likely than not that 340 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: Boston wins the Eastern Conference. Now there are two teams 341 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: out west that I think have more straightforward paths to 342 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: beating Boston because Boston just can't guard Jokic. Like put 343 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: it very simply, the only team that Boston couldn't beat 344 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: last year was Denver, and it was the same thing. 345 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: It's just they can consistently generate great shots off the 346 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: back of Jokic because Boston just doesn't have anybody on 347 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: the roster that can remotely make him feel uncomfortable. But 348 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: even then, I think Boston's a little better now than 349 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: they were last year. I think Tatum will be better 350 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: than he was last year, and I think Denver's a 351 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: little bit worse. So in a way that I would 352 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: have picked Denver by a smidge over Boston last year, 353 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: I think I'd picked Boston over Denver this year. But 354 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,479 Speaker 1: at least if you're a Denver fan, there's a straightforward 355 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: path there, right like Jokic picks him apart, they go 356 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: cold from three, you can kind of like see the vision, 357 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: so to speak. But I would pick Boston and then 358 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. They have true five out spacing. All five 359 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: of those players that are in their small ball group 360 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: are excellent defenders in space. Shay Gills as Alexander would 361 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: be the best player in the series. But even then, 362 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: I think I'd picked Boston because Jalen Williams is Oklahoma 363 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: City's second best player and the guy who's going to 364 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: be determining so many important possessions, and he's twenty three 365 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: years old, so like Boston just has a substantial experience 366 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: advantage there. So my prediction, I think this is the 367 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: year that Boston finally breaks the trend of teams not repeating. 368 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: I think they cement themselves in the ranks of the 369 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: all time great teams. I think they'll have some more 370 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: memorable playoff moments because I think they're going to face 371 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: some tougher teams and they're going to have to overcome 372 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of adversity on their way there. And 373 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: I think that when we come to this point next year, 374 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: Boston will finally have the respect that they're seeking, being 375 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: viewed as one of the all time great teams in 376 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: NBA history. All right, let's get to our mailbag. First question, 377 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: a lot of good ones from you guys today, thank 378 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: you for participating. Is always, did the Knicks sacrifice their 379 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: identity gritty offensive rebounds TIBs guys to appear better on paper. 380 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: This is a really interesting question. There's no doubt that 381 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: their identity will look a little bit different this year. 382 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: I think that goes without saying I still think a 383 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: good chunk of last year's identity is there though, right 384 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: with Josh Hart Ognnobi Duce McBride is a guy that 385 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: just kind of brings that same mentality. Jalen Brunson is 386 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: a tough minded guy. Mitchell Robinson when he's healthy, I 387 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: think McHale Bridges kind of fits that mold and will 388 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: add to that this season. But the reality is is 389 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: they had a certain ceiling last year. Too much was 390 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: on Brunson's play offensively to actually win four playoff rounds. 391 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: I didn't think that they had enough aggregate talent to 392 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: really capitalize on the advantages that Jalen Brunson was creating 393 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: as well, like they capitalize on attention devoted to Brunson 394 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: on the offensive glass as guys would break free and 395 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: crash as they were in rotation. But I actually think 396 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: they have enough talent this year to have a little 397 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: bit more of a driving kick look, a little bit 398 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: more of an advantage extending look, meaning like when Jalen 399 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Brunson draws a heavier preponderance of the defense in his direction. 400 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Guys that can drive closeouts and turn good shots into 401 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: great shots. I think that was something that was missing 402 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: last year. And then obviously just the true five out 403 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: spacing that they can accomplish with Karl Anthony Towns at center. 404 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: It's a look that they just didn't have in the past. So, yeah, 405 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: look at it this way. Anytime you make substantial roster changes, 406 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: there's a certain amount of risk. And yes there's a 407 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: version of this where this team just isn't as tough 408 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: as they are last year and they underachieve and it 409 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: doesn't go well, right, But last year's team had no 410 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: championship ceiling. This team actually does, And so it's about 411 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: the risk. Anytime you want a real reward in life, 412 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: you've got to put yourself out there and take some risk. 413 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: That's what the Knicks are doing. Yes, it could go south, 414 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: but there's also a version of this that works out. 415 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: Do you think Dalton connect will eventually play his way 416 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: into the starting lineup for the Lakers? A lot of 417 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: folks thought he could eventually take Rui's spot, although I disagree. 418 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: I would like to hear what you have to say 419 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: about it. Definitely not this year. With the way that 420 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: this Laker starting lineup is constructed, they really need Rui's size, 421 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: especially on the defensive glass. Lebron in just some of 422 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: his inconsistent defensive engagement at this phase in his career. 423 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: It's also part of them just kind of leaning into offense. 424 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: But maybe a future version of the Lakers, you could 425 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: see that. And this is where it gets interesting because 426 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: let's say we think about life post Lebron. So you 427 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: have your foundational pieces, right, you have I think we 428 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: can I think we see like the Lakers would see 429 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: their like three four years from now backcourt as Austin 430 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: Reeves and Max Christy. Think that goes about saying and 431 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a nice natural fit, right, skill guard 432 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: athlete guard primarily defense and attax closeouts. Right. Then you 433 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: have Anthony Davis. But then there's this two or the 434 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: three to four spot that you're looking at, right, and 435 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: the obvious choice is like, oh well, Ruy slots down 436 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: to the four when Lebron is gone, and then you 437 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: put in Dalton connect at the three. This is where 438 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: it gets tricky though. That has one good defensive athlete 439 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: at the two. In Max Christie right, I don't think 440 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: Dalton could start at the three for an NBA team 441 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: unless the four man and the two man and the 442 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: five man were all excellent defensive players. Do I think 443 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: Dalton Connects will eventually become somebody that is functional on defense. 444 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: We'll see it's definitely he has the athleticism too. It's 445 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: just a question of whether or not he puts in 446 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: the work and picks up the instincts and commitment to 447 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: attention to detail to actually make that happen. But just 448 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: in terms of who he in terms of his natural 449 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: abilities as a basketball player, I don't think you could 450 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: start him alongside another week defensive forward like Ruey Hotcha Mura. 451 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: So in terms of the long term goals for the Lakers, 452 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: if you're looking at as Austin Max Dalton, that four 453 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: man next to ad is going to have to be 454 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: another big, strong athlete who is an excellent defensive rebounder, 455 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: an excellent defensive player, and so more likely than not, 456 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: I almost see Dalton connect at this kind of point 457 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: in his correct because this is the other part of it. Two, 458 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: you better be damn good on offense. If you are 459 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: starting for an NBA team and you're a mediocre to 460 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: below average defender. So like, so much of this is like, 461 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: maybe Dalton Connect never really has starting potential. He's more 462 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: of like a sixth man type of guy, right than 463 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: maybe Ruy is the or and they look for a 464 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: long term option at the three. But in terms of 465 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: future version of the Lakers, do I think Dalton Connect 466 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: could eventually become a starter. Sure, but I see almost 467 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: I see it basically a zero percent chance of that 468 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: happening this year. He might get a spot start here 469 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: or there because of injuries, but I don't see that 470 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: being part of the vision for this particular season. If 471 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: the Thunder get a lottery pick from the Clippers this year, 472 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: what should the Thunder do with the pick? Easy decision. 473 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: You hang onto it and you see if you can 474 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: get Cooper Flag. This is a team like if you're 475 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: looking at the build, the one guy they're missing is 476 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: a legitimate four man two flank Chet. They went with 477 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: a different direction this summer, opting for a look with 478 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: Chet at the four next to a center, which maybe 479 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: that ends up being what this looks like in the 480 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: long run anyway, But if you have an opportunity to 481 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: get Cooper flag. You wait to see if you can 482 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: get Cooper flag. Now, if you can't get Cooper flag 483 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: and you can't get any of these guys at the 484 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: top end of the draft that everyone's kind of keyed 485 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: in on, then I would start looking at potentially trading 486 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: that pick and looking for that forward more through the 487 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: trade market, because there's a timeline things starting to take 488 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: shape here as you look at the age of these guys, 489 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: they're actually starting to enter into legitimate championship contention and 490 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: continuing to develop prospects for the future may not be 491 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: the best path. The other thing they can do. This 492 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: is something that I wouldn't be surprised if we see 493 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: more teams do as we enter into this next phase 494 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: of the CBA with some of the limitations surrounding the aprons. 495 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: But we might actually see a team like Oklahoma City 496 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: let guys go when they need to get paid, because, like, 497 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: if you think about it from the same point of 498 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: the payroll, if you got to pay three max guys 499 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: and let's say that's chet, JDub and Shay, then you 500 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: can't afford to have expensive role players around them. And 501 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: so maybe It's one of those things where you use 502 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: a higher draft pick that typically would be used on 503 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: a player that has upside long term on more of 504 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: a guy that is not as heavy on the upside 505 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: but is ready to go right away and actually try 506 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: to target discount rotation pieces through the draft. I think 507 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: that's something that you might see a team like Oklahoma 508 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: City look to do as well. Not related to preseason, 509 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: but you recently said Lebron's argument for being the goat 510 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: is his longevity and that MJ has a better peak 511 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: for sure. How are you so sure about MJ's peaking 512 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: higher if your argument is only six to eight years, 513 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: that is more of a team stat. That's kind of 514 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: the point, like MJ's peak is clearly more dominant in 515 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: terms of the actual accomplishments of him and his basketball team. 516 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: The best individual basketball player that I have ever personally 517 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: watched was twenty eighteen Lebron. He was basically like Luka 518 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: Doncic as a surgical half court shot creator who could 519 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: pass every single read, who could make every single shot 520 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: from every single spot on the floor. But he was 521 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: also one of the best athletes in the league who 522 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: brought a ton of downhill rim pressure, which is something 523 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: that Luca doesn't bring, and at that phase end of 524 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: his career, Lebron was still able to leverage himself as 525 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: a defensive player at a level near the top guys 526 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: in the league when he needed to. That was the 527 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: best basketball player that I've ever seen personally, But that 528 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: team lost in the finals in large part because the 529 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: team had a lot of limitations and there's a lot 530 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: of subjectivity there. It's hard to argue with six championships 531 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: in eight years with respect to what was going on 532 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: in the world of basketball at that point in time, 533 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to argue Lebron's peak 534 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: beyond the realm of subjectivity. So like that's the thing, Yeah, 535 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: do I. I'm also a big believer the basketball players 536 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: are always getting better. Like twenty eighteen, Lebron's the best 537 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: basketball player I've ever seen. I have a feeling I'm 538 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: going to see a player that I think is better 539 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: at some point in the next ten years. But it's 540 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: not going to be because Lebron wasn't the best player 541 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: in the league at the time. It's going to be 542 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: because basketball players keep getting better. Just look at how 543 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: much better the shooting is now compared to where it was. 544 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Guys are better at shooting further away from the basket, 545 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Guys are better at shooting off of more complicated dribble combinations. 546 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: As a league, we're getting so much better at advanced passing, reads, 547 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: advanced pick and roll shot creation. We're getting better defensively 548 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: as well, Like the league is just getting better. Basketball 549 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: players are getting better. And so yeah, I tend to 550 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: think that the six ' nine super versatile point forward 551 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: who could dribble and shoot better than most players in 552 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: the league was better than the six to sixth scoring 553 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: guard who was also one of the best perimeter defenders 554 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: in the league, like MJ in his era, was far 555 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: and away the best, and all players have gotten better, 556 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: and Lebron is the best of a better group of players, 557 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: and Wemby will probably be the best of an even 558 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: better group of players, right, And that's just kind of 559 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: how I see. It's not perfectly linear, but generally the 560 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: league is advancing and players are getting better. What percentage 561 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: of the league matches up well enough with Boston to 562 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: make us believe anybody but Boston can win? And do 563 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: you think it makes the season less enjoyable? If you 564 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: know that there's no team that can keep up the 565 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: good work. Really enjoy your content. Thank you for supporting 566 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: the show. I you know, I did feel that way 567 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: about the KD. Staph Warriors. I legitimately didn't think anybody 568 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: could beat them, even when they would lose. I thought 569 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: it was mostly about like just kind of like playing 570 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: down to their competition. This is something I've said many 571 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: times on the show. But even if Chris Paul didn't 572 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: get hurt in the twenty eighteen Conference final series against 573 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: the Rockets, I still think the Warriors win that series. Yes, 574 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: they won up three to two, and obviously Chris Paul 575 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: getting hurt helped things. But let's just put it on 576 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: a real basic level. Does Golden State go home and 577 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: get Game six at home? I think they do, even 578 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: if Chris Paul plays. Then there's a Game seven, and 579 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: yes it's in Houston. But who are you taking? Are 580 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: you taking KD, Steph Draymond Clay and Andre Gudala? Are 581 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: you taking those Rockets dudes? I'm taking those I'm taking 582 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, dudes. So like, I didn't think 583 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: anybody could beat that team. It was basically like this 584 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: Boston Celtics team, except for instead of Tatum and Brown, 585 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: it was Katie and Steph, the second and third best 586 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: players in the league. That to me is the greatest 587 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: basketball team ever assembled, and it's not particularly close. Boston 588 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: to me, is a special basketball team with regard to 589 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: recent NBA history, but they just don't quite have that 590 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: like otherworldly top end talent that like nobody can mess with, 591 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: and that to me makes them at least beatable even 592 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: though they're the best team in the league. That I 593 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: think keeps this season very interesting. As I mentioned, I 594 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: have a hard time discussing I talked about this in 595 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: the actual Celtics segment. I have a hard time really 596 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: conceptualizing an Eastern Conference team to beat them, just from 597 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: a basketball perspective. But Oklahoma City and Denver are two 598 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: teams out west that I think could present Boston with 599 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: some real issues. Particularly Boston can't guard Jokich. We've seen 600 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: that just too many times over the last few years. 601 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: And then Oklahoma City has five I can put together 602 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: five man lineups with real two way athletes on at 603 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: all five positions, which is something that Boston can do 604 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: and part of what makes Boston so difficult to play right, 605 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: I would still pick Boston in both of those matchups 606 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: now because Denver's declined a little bit, I think Boston's better, 607 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: and then I think Boston is more experienced than Oklahoma City. However, 608 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: those there are teams that have punchers chances to beat Boston, 609 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: I do think they are a risk for an upset, 610 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: and that is something that I think makes them a 611 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: more legitimate, like kind of like parody concept favorite compared 612 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: to teams like Golden State, you know. And an interesting 613 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: way to look at it would be like, would I 614 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: take Boston or the Field? If I had to pick 615 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: the KD STEPH Warriors of the Field, I would take 616 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: the KD STEPH Warriors every single time. I just there's 617 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: no version of that where I think one of those 618 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: other teams are going to win. If I had to 619 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: choose between Boston and the Field this year, it'd be 620 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 1: more of a toss up for me. And even though 621 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: I do think Boston is demonstrably the favorite, it's more 622 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: of a toss up for me in terms of them 623 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: or the Field, And I think that's kind of the 624 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: big difference in terms of I think that's the big 625 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: difference in terms of the parody and just how much 626 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: people can kind of look forward to Boston potentially getting 627 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: upset on a real basic level. I'm pulling up the 628 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: stat right now when I remember when the KD Staph 629 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 1: Warriors were assembled after they won in twenty seventeen. I 630 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: can't remember the exact I can't remember the exact odds, 631 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: but they were negative odds to They were negative odds 632 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: to win the title before the season in that twenty 633 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: eighteen year for good reason. They had won fift teen 634 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: straight playoff games in the previous year. So like for 635 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: good reason, I want to say they were like minus 636 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: one seventy to win the title, meaning you'd have to 637 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: bet one hundred and seventy dollars before the season started 638 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: to win one hundred if Golden State won the title. 639 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what the number was, but they 640 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: had negative odds to win the title. This year, Boston's 641 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: plus three to ten. So if you bet one hundred 642 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: dollars on the Celtics to win the title right now, 643 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: you'd win three hundred and ten bucks. For the record, 644 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a great bet because I think that 645 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: it's probably a little closer to fifty to fifty than 646 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: they're letting on. So I think that's that's a bet 647 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: that would be worth looking at. But I do think 648 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: that there's a lot more parody in the league right 649 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: now than there was at that point in time. Julian 650 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: Strawther has had an amazing summer in preseason. How does 651 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: him excelling affect Denver's outlook? So so far, on twenty 652 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: six jumphot attempts this preseason, he's getting one point five 653 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: points per jump shot. The only real difference though, is 654 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: like he's hitting all of his catch and shoot attempts, 655 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: but he's struggling off the dribble, and he's struggling creating 656 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: shots off the dribble. And I think that is ultimately 657 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: the thing that is going to be what makes him 658 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: a legitimate secondary shot creator or a guy that they 659 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: could potentially slot in for Christian Brown to increase the 660 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: productivity of the starting lineup and so and then obviously 661 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: we got to see how he develops defensively as he 662 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: picks up more high leverage assignments and bigger minute loads. Right, 663 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: But obviously that potential's there. But everything with these young 664 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: guys with Denver is up in the air. At this point, 665 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: and I really need to see some regular season basketball 666 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: before we start making those those stances. Thoughts on the 667 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Warriors and how they will do this season. Is the 668 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: dynasty officially over? I would never say it's over over. 669 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: I do think that there's some similarities to the twenty 670 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: twenty one offseason where they kind of brought in some 671 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: more functional role players that will will immediately make them better. 672 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I do think the Warriors will be better than last year. 673 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: I think Kyle Anderson, Buddy Heald, and d Anthony Melton 674 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: are all shoe and fits. Young players get a little 675 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: bit better. I think Steph's going to have a bounce 676 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: back season from where he was at the tail end 677 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: of last year. Right The big difference between this right 678 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: now and what the twenty two Warriors became off the 679 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: back of that twenty twenty one offseason was you could 680 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: make the case that Steph was the best basketball player 681 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: alive at that point in time in twenty twenty one, 682 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: before they made those offseason additions, he was barbecuing the 683 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: entire league. He's coming off a pretty substantial slump to 684 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: end last season. I do think he'll be better. I 685 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: still think he's a top ten ish player in the NBA, 686 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: but Steph is not on the true top tier superstar 687 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: tier anymore. That's the main reason that I can't see 688 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: them going over the top into real championship contention this year. 689 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: To put it simply, it's Stephan a bunch of role players. 690 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: And if it's Stephan a bunch of role players and 691 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: he's not the very best player in the league, he's 692 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: not going to beat other teams around the league that 693 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: have more star talent and better role players. And so, yeah, 694 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: I think the Warriors are good. I think they're fisty. 695 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: You think they're gonna better than last year. I think 696 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: they'll be in that you know, somewhere in that six 697 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: to six to eight range, probably maybe six to ten, 698 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: depending on how their health goes. But yeah, I don't 699 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: see championship intention from this team unless they hit on 700 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: a trade during the season. Even though the MAVs made 701 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: the finals last year, do you see them as contenders 702 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: next year? With the players they've picked up in Kyrie 703 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: turning thirty three, I have them as the best of 704 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: the teams in that second tier. So I'm at top 705 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: four teams right, I have Boston, Denver, Oklahoma, city in 706 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: New York. Those are my true top tier championship contenders 707 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: that I think all should feel really good about their chances. 708 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Then there was a small gap, and then from five 709 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: to eleven, I've got seven teams that I classify as 710 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: if things go right, contenders. Dallas is for me, in 711 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: the top of that tier. That's where I had them 712 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: last year going into the playoffs. If you remember last year, 713 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: going into the playoffs, I had Boston and Denver and 714 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: then a gap, and then I had Dallas at number 715 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: three as the best of the second tier championship contenders 716 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: going even going into the finals, I never saw them 717 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: as a true top tier contender. Those are you. Guys 718 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: who watched my NBA Finals preview will remember me saying 719 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: I didn't just pick Boston. I specifically said I expected 720 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: Boston to kick their ass. I said they'd win multiple 721 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: games in blowout fashion. They ended up winning. I think 722 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: they led by twenty plus and three of their four 723 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: wins they led by like twenty one twenty six, and 724 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: like it was crazy. They kick their ass. So like 725 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: I like Dallas, I think they're a really good team. 726 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: I think they're the best of the second tier contenders. 727 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: But to me, there's a firepower difference between them and 728 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: the teams that are in that top tier. Do you 729 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: think Moses Moody will have a breakout season this year 730 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: or be subjected to his typical limitations imposed by Steve Kerr. 731 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: The thing is Steve Kerr is always like playing guards 732 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: that he trusts to run his system, and so guys 733 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: liked Anthony Melton and Buddy hild are just going to 734 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: get a lot of minutes. And I think that just 735 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: directly interferes with Moses Moody and his opportunities. He'll get 736 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: his opportunities, but inevitably this is going to end in 737 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: a consolidation trade. They have thirteen guys that could realistically 738 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: play in the rotation and that's just not good for anybody. 739 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: It's not good for their goals for the season because 740 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: it's a waste of talent. It's an inefficient way to 741 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: use talent. It's not good for the talent development because 742 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: guys aren't getting the reps that they need. So inevitably 743 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: there will be a consolidation trade. Maybe it includes Moody, 744 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: but if it doesn't, then that'll be where he gets 745 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: his opportunity. Thoughts on a Brandon Ingram from Michael Porter 746 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: junior trade mid season. Denver gets a consistent playmaker who 747 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: doesn't fit perfectly but supports Jamal Murray staying healthy with 748 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: less responsibility. New Orleans gets a confident three point shooter 749 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: for Zion with very questionable consistency, but a great fit. 750 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: This is an interesting idea because the idea would be okay, 751 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: if Jamal Murray struggles, then you would need somebody that 752 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: can help run perimeter action and be a shot maker 753 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: for Denver. Brandon fits that role pretty well right. For 754 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: the Pelicans, so much of their driving kick offense is 755 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: going to be initiated by Zion and Dejantey Murray, So 756 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: having a guy that's more of a catch and shoot 757 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 1: off ball player maybe it's a more seamless fit. Although 758 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram has looked sharp to start the year, so like, 759 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: here's my thing. It's interesting, but it's high risk, So 760 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: I'd want to see how Jamal Murray looks first. If 761 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray comes out and he looks like Jamal Murray 762 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: after you know, thirty games or so, then don't fuck 763 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: with it. Jamal Jokic, Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter junr. They 764 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: won a title and got close to winning a title, 765 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: close than people think last year, so don't mess with it. 766 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: But if you get out into the season in thirty 767 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: forty games in Jamal Murray looks like you did last 768 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: year in the playoffs, then it's one of those things 769 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: where you have to start looking at trying to capitalize 770 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: on Nikolea Jokic's title window here, and in that case 771 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: you have to take on a little bit more risk. 772 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: But don't take on risk if you don't have to. 773 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: Let's wait and see how Jamal Murray looks. Why are 774 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: you so strong fisted on Jokic and the Nuggets title odds? 775 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Why is it always they were up twenty in Game 776 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: seven and not they blew the lead to the better 777 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: performing team. It wouldn't be the first time the best 778 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: in the world wouldn't have a big chance to win 779 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: the chip. We've seen Braun and Steph in thirty four. 780 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: Here's why I'm still bullish on the Nuggets. They won 781 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: the title the year before last, and then last year 782 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: they were a couple of minutes away from making the 783 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: conference finals. You'd be foolish to write those guys off. 784 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't know how else to put it. 785 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: Do the Suns have a legit chance to come out 786 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: the West where they have to upgrade over Nurkic. It's 787 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: hard to say. I mean, Ryan Dunn developing, as Sam 788 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: Vssini was saying yesterday, into a legit three and D 789 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: weapon for them would be huge because he's just one 790 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: of the most dynamic athletes that was in that draft class. 791 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: My thing with the Suns is it goes beyond just 792 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: Nurkic as a roster. They're not very physically imposing, and 793 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: just in the playoffs, especially with the way the rules 794 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: have changed, everything is just so physical and it's so 795 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: much about grabbing and holding and winning these rock fights, 796 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think Phoenix has set up well to 797 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: win rock fights. That said, everybody in that tier has issues. 798 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: From Dallas, Minnesota, Philly, Lakers, Bucks, Sons, all those teams 799 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: have issues, and so all it takes is a couple 800 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: favorable matchups here and there, a young guy popping like 801 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Dunn hitting on a key trade one of the 802 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: top tier teams gets upset something like that could open 803 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: up that door and then they could shoot through that gap. 804 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: All right, Well, last question, then we're done for the day. 805 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: Is there anywhere that screams Zach Levine trade doesn't feel 806 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: it to me? And when they traded for Giddy, do 807 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: you think they knew Lonzo was coming back? Seems very 808 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: redundant to have so many ball dominant guys, incredibly poor 809 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: team building in my opinion. The thing with the Lavigne pieces, 810 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: He's just hard to trade because of how big his 811 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: salary is. Like, on a very basic level, there are 812 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: a lot of teams out there that I think are 813 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: looking at the situation going like, man, if we could 814 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: bring Zack in here, this would actually be really good 815 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: for us. But on the flip side, it's like, yeah, 816 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: but we would have to send out fifty million dollars 817 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: worth of salary as soon as we set out that 818 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: could be three really high level role players. And there 819 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: are just too many examples in NBA history, most recently 820 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: the Russell Westbrook trade, where it's like, Okay, you bring 821 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: in this guy, but it's the Russell Westbrook trade was 822 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: not what killed Russell Westbrook is not what killed the Lakers. 823 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: The Russell Westbrook trade killed the Lakers because they gave 824 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: up KCP Kyle Kuzma and in the ensuing salary crunch 825 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: lost Alex Caruso. So like that's the real issue is 826 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: it's just hard for them to get rid of zach Lavine. 827 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: But the best thing he can do to start this 828 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: season is just you got to feed him and help 829 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: him bump up his numbers and see if he can't 830 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: drive up his value so that you can make a deal. 831 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 1: As far as Giddy goes to me a Lonzo, Lonzo's 832 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: more of like a connective point guard throwing kickhead passes 833 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: and being a connective passer. He's not a guy that 834 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: I like to run a ton of action, So I 835 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: don't think that that necessarily clashes with Giddy. And you 836 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: got to give good Giddy a good hard look because 837 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: you just traded Alex Crusoe for him instead of for 838 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: draft compensation, and so you damn will better have a 839 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: plan to see if Josh Gitty can do anything. One 840 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: last thing before we get out of here. Actually, I 841 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: wanted to quickly hit I just had a quick thought 842 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: on the I just had a quick thought on the Clippers. 843 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: This Kawhi Leonard things. Khi Leonard is going to miss 844 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: the start of the season. A lot of people are 845 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: talking about the Clippers, And here's the thing. It's really 846 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: easy to make those types of opinions known in retrospect. So, 847 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: for instance, yeah, the Clippers basically set Oklahoma City up 848 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: for success. All this draft compensation, Shay Gils, Alexander fourth 849 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: best player in the league, you know, obviously getting off 850 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: of Paul George. All of this just just spoon fed 851 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City a contender. Right, But let's we can't operate 852 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four with what we know now and 853 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: pretend like we would have made a different decision back then. 854 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, remember where you were when the Kawhi 855 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: news came down. I remember I was in Mexico with 856 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: some friends. I remember getting the it was late at night, 857 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: getting the tweets coming through from Wojanowski, and I'm like, 858 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, they got Paul George and Kawhi Leonard 859 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: on this team that already has all of these good 860 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: role players. Overnight, they became the championship favorite. At various 861 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: points over the last four years. They looked like the 862 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: best team in the league in twenty twenty at various 863 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: points in the regular season. In twenty twenty one, before 864 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard got hurt in that playoff run. Right last year, 865 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of the regular season, they were playing 866 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: better basketball than Boston. Over the middle third of the season, 867 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: they looked like the best team in the league. So, like, 868 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: as I talked about earlier, you've got to take risks 869 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: to win the championship. And there was a big risk 870 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: there taken by the Clippers. It was the right risk. 871 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: They had legitimate chances to win. It didn't work out, 872 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, on the tail, every time you give 873 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: up young players, it's like it's like with the Pelicans 874 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: and the Lakers. Yeah, like they happen to win a title, 875 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: So it it all gets talked about differently if the 876 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: Lakers did not win the championship in twenty twenty, can 877 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: you imagine how different that deal would be talked about 878 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: with everything the Pelicans got out of it. Like, if 879 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: you have to give up young talented players in draft compensation, 880 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: there's a good chance that those guys are going to 881 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: turn into good basketball players and it's going to affect 882 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: the outlook of your of the of that deal. But 883 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: you've got to be aggressive to give yourself a chance 884 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: to win the championship. It's really unfortunate what happened to 885 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: KWHI Leonard. It's really unfortunate what happened to the Clippers, 886 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: But every one of us would have done the exact 887 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: same thing. Put yourself in those shoes summer of twenty nineteen. Hey, 888 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: all you got to do is give up Shame's good 889 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: young player has potential to be really great but not yet. 890 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: And a bunch of draft compensation you get Paul George 891 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: Kwi Leonard and really good role players, your overnight championship 892 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: favorite yes or no every day and one of us 893 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: is saying yes every day, and one of us stop 894 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: pretending you wouldn't so like that. That's where it gets 895 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: silly in retrospect to talk about it that way. All right, guys, 896 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: that's all I have for today is always a sincerely 897 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for supporting the show. I hope you 898 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: all have a great weekend, and we'll be back next week. 899 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: On Monday, I'll do like a probably some kind of 900 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: like predictions pod or something along those lines, and then 901 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: we'll get into it with the instant reaction on Tuesday 902 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: night after the first light of games is always I 903 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, and I will see you then. The 904 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 1: volume