WEBVTT - Where Is Missing Fugitive Football Coach Travis Turner?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, did is Friday, January ninth, and the coach

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<v Speaker 1>of an undefeated high school football team goes missing. Days later,

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes a fugitive. But here we are nearly two

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<v Speaker 1>months later, and we still don't know where he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roase.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a fascinating case from the very beginning. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it had to do with the fact this

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<v Speaker 1>was an undefeated high school football team in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of a playoff run and the coach disappears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, in the middle of a community where football is king.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a man who had been the head football

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<v Speaker 2>coach for more than a decade, was beloved in his community,

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<v Speaker 2>was a larger than life figure.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a football king. His father was before.

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<v Speaker 2>There was legacy behind this man in a town of

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand Appalachia, Virginia, and poof, he goes missing and

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<v Speaker 2>we still don't know where he is, what condition he

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<v Speaker 2>may be in, and any validity to the charges that

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<v Speaker 2>are now hanging over his head.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go back then, Robes, to the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a case that got national headlines from the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning, and all we knew at the beginning was

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<v Speaker 1>that he disappeared. Right, there's an undefeated high school football team.

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<v Speaker 1>They're having a great, great run and poof, the coach

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<v Speaker 1>goes missing. Now, from the very beginning, robes there was

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<v Speaker 1>no indication again from the very beginning, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>wanted for anything, but the details as we got them. Initially,

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<v Speaker 1>police were on the way to his house to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>what we don't know, but they made clear to us

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<v Speaker 1>at the very beginning, he is not a suspect. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not after him for anything, and the search begins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they just said that they had questions for him.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, we also learned that the school

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<v Speaker 2>where he taught, Union High School put someone on administrative lead. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so obviously those dots were connected but not confirmed. And

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<v Speaker 2>even his own family was saying, hey, this is unlike him.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's any sort of insinuation of anything, he will

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<v Speaker 2>be back to clear his name. We trust him, we

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<v Speaker 2>love him. He's not capable of doing anything untoward.

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<v Speaker 1>But the authorities wanted to. It seemed like they made

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<v Speaker 1>a point early on to say he's not wanted for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was a massive search in a very wooded area,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were driving home the point and maybe ropes.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing this because they wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>the message got to him, and they wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure they got him back in good health. But they

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<v Speaker 1>made clear how many days do you remember it went

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<v Speaker 1>by before they said, actually.

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<v Speaker 3>That five days? Five days he went missing on November twentieth.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew that Virginia State Police had been looking to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him about something. We knew that someone had

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<v Speaker 2>been put on administrative leave, but we did not get

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<v Speaker 2>official word until five days later that yes, this coach,

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Turner was facing five counts of child pornography possession

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<v Speaker 2>and five counts of using a computer to solicit a minor.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a long time to go by, they were hoping.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do think you're correct. They didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>scare him off. They didn't want him to know what

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<v Speaker 2>they knew or what they were potentially going to charge

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<v Speaker 2>him with. They wanted to make it comfortable for him

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<v Speaker 2>to return.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize it was five day. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>long stretch that they were telling the public. They were

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely repeating that that he wasn't wanted for anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. People started piecing it together. Now when

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<v Speaker 1>robes did we get how soon do we get the

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<v Speaker 1>information from his family that he had walked out, walked

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<v Speaker 1>into the woods, was only wearing a hoodie, and was

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<v Speaker 1>carrying a weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how long later we learned that he

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<v Speaker 2>had a firearm. And that was a big exclamation point

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<v Speaker 2>because to know that he was last seen within a

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<v Speaker 2>few days by his family with a firearm, disappearing into

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<v Speaker 2>what they describe as thick, mountainous woods behind his home

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<v Speaker 2>only wearing a gray sweatshirt and sweatpants, clearly not dressed

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<v Speaker 2>in November twentieth for the Appalachian Mountains, which obviously can

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<v Speaker 2>have notoriously difficult weather, so he wasn't prepped. And we

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<v Speaker 2>also got more information within the weeks to come from

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<v Speaker 2>Turner's family attorney, and this was even more alarming. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Turner. We talked about what he left with. He

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<v Speaker 2>left with a firearm, but he left behind his car,

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<v Speaker 2>his keys, his contact lenses, his glasses, his wallet, his license, cash.

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<v Speaker 2>He also left behind daily medications, which his family says

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<v Speaker 2>he needs. So they added, it's not like Travis to

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<v Speaker 2>disappear or stay away from home, and that is when

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<v Speaker 2>you really ca a clearer picture of perhaps what Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Turner's intentions were when he left his home.

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<v Speaker 1>And there we go November twentieth. We're talking about so

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't dressed obviously for any of the conditions out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He has no way of getting food, no shelter, no nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately, this paint's a very grim picture. But they

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<v Speaker 1>are still holding out hope. Do you remember, Robes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think along the way, I'm trying to remember

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<v Speaker 1>all the timing here as it went about, they had

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<v Speaker 1>to come out and make a point that the woman,

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<v Speaker 1>the wife, did not help him try to escape. They

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<v Speaker 1>had to make that a part of the story as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, they made that very very clear that she

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea any of this was going on. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have now looked back, they've peeled

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<v Speaker 2>back a couple of days before he went missing, before

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<v Speaker 2>we knew that there were any sort of allegations against

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<v Speaker 2>this coach. They talked about how he had just done

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<v Speaker 2>an interview with a local reporter. He was up beat,

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<v Speaker 2>he was excited about his team. He was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>what they needed to do to win this semi final round.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just days away and he was in great spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how the reporter described him. They also pointed to

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that his wife was posting on social media

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of the team and football forward and just excited

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<v Speaker 2>about where their team was headed and what they were

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<v Speaker 2>going to be doing this weekend. She also she put

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<v Speaker 2>out a Facebook statement when he went missing, saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>please come home.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband's done nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything she did and all of her actions were in

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<v Speaker 2>line with someone who was deeply concerned about where her

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<v Speaker 2>husband was and these being like wanting to fight these

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<v Speaker 2>allegations against him. And it was very clear, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>made it clear she was in the dark about the

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<v Speaker 2>allegations and about any intentions on his behalf to leave

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<v Speaker 2>and never come back. The family actually issued a statement

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<v Speaker 2>to Travis and it's you can just you can hear

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<v Speaker 2>in their tone, like just the genuineness. This isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>family that was trying to cover something up.

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<v Speaker 1>What are I'm sorry I put you on the spot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember. They were young kids that he and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife have.

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<v Speaker 3>He has three children and two boys and a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have their ages right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, but young, I mean they're old enough to know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on, and certainly young enough to miss their dad.

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<v Speaker 2>The family statement says, if Travis has the ability and

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<v Speaker 2>is able to respond to his family's wishes, your wife

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<v Speaker 2>and children are in distress. Leslie pleads for you to

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<v Speaker 2>come home and face the allegations by defending yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>a court of law. Don't leave your family to fight

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<v Speaker 2>this battle without you. They love and miss you. They

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<v Speaker 2>want you to know they are your support.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, I mean, this is the allegations are as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as it gets in terms of community, community shame,

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<v Speaker 1>community fear. This is some awful stuff. Now, there's no allegation,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in here of actual molestation, right at least

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<v Speaker 1>no charge. There's none, but solicitation of a miner using

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<v Speaker 1>a computer to do so, and then possession of child pornography.

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<v Speaker 1>What that means I don't know, but just the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of that. How do you walk into this community again

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<v Speaker 1>and keep your head up with that hanging over you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in rogues for them to get to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>to go to his house and ready to make an arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a fugitive from justice right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And this is the same man who was named

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<v Speaker 3>coach of the year twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually in his community where as we pointed out, football

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<v Speaker 2>is king, he had a.

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<v Speaker 3>Big article written about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he really was this big man on campus

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<v Speaker 2>sort of personality in that area of Appalachia, Virginia. They

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<v Speaker 2>talked about a recent profile of him by the local

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<v Speaker 2>paper describing him as listening this is interesting, emotionless and unflappable,

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<v Speaker 2>with like focus. So they talked about him, praising his leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>praising his coaching abilities, and this he was a football

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<v Speaker 2>star in his own right, so was his father. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a man who's not only known in this community,

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<v Speaker 2>revered in this community, but his entire family was.

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<v Speaker 3>This is hard to walk back into.

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<v Speaker 1>And he and you hate to. I mean, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what he where he could be if he

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<v Speaker 1>found some way to survive with the signs are just

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<v Speaker 1>there of a man who didn't plan on ever coming

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<v Speaker 1>back and didn't plan on frankly being around that long.

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<v Speaker 1>He left everything he needed. They say, this is medication

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<v Speaker 1>that was necessary for him to keep going type stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he didn't, he never plans on coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is what the fear is by the family.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can hear by that family statement that they

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<v Speaker 2>certainly are concerned. Coming up, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how this mysterious disappearance got even more mysterious right around

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<v Speaker 2>the holidays, and we will tell you the very latest

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<v Speaker 2>information about where he is, the terrain he might be facing,

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<v Speaker 2>and what folks feel like the ending maybe And welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We

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<v Speaker 2>have been all week going over some of the very

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<v Speaker 2>mysterious crimes that happened in twenty twenty five, high profile,

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<v Speaker 2>made tons of headlines and then nothing, And there have

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<v Speaker 2>been several of them that we have gone over this week.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're interested at all in what the latest is

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<v Speaker 2>with singer David and the investigation into his girlfriend's body,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least reported girlfriend's body that was found in

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<v Speaker 2>his tesla, what's the latest on that, We ask about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in the Martha Nolan case, the woman

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<v Speaker 2>who is mysteriously found dead on a yacht in Montalk.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the Anna Kepner case on the Carnival Cruise

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<v Speaker 2>line and why her stepbrother who's been named to suspecting

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<v Speaker 2>court documents hasn't been arrested. And yes, today we are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the mysterious disappearance of a revered high school

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<v Speaker 2>football coach in Virginia. His name is Travis Turner, last

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<v Speaker 2>seen on November twentieth. It took days before we realized

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<v Speaker 2>that he was a wanted fugitive on child porn and

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<v Speaker 2>solicitation charges, and what happened in December made things even

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<v Speaker 2>more mysterious. A judge on December ninth ordered all records

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<v Speaker 2>connected to the Travis Turner investigation sealed, including the order

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<v Speaker 2>that sealed them. So why is that? That is an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting twist that a lot of folks are asking questions

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<v Speaker 2>about why the secrecy?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what is that speculation? Why it could? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of protecting some members of that community, not

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of Travis Turner or his family, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who are possibly victims in that community, potentially correct victims?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is one of the thoughts. The point being

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<v Speaker 2>no one knows who any of these alleged victims are

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<v Speaker 2>or may be. There's been so much speculation about if

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<v Speaker 2>members of the football team, if current and former members

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<v Speaker 2>of the football team were involved, who came forward, who

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<v Speaker 2>brought this up to police? How did the investigation even begin?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he has been as we pointed out the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach of this high school for eleven years up

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<v Speaker 2>until his disappearance. That's a long time with direct access

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<v Speaker 2>to a number of children. And so there are even

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<v Speaker 2>people now saying, oh there were rumors. Oh, people used

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<v Speaker 2>to whisper or talk. You do often hear that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's now starting to circulate. So perhaps that to quiet

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some of the speculation that was done to protect

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<v Speaker 2>alleged victims.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, given where we are, with this being such

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery and the biggest mystery being where is he,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that is obviously going to make people raise

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<v Speaker 1>some eyebrows, But I just where is he?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And if he is found, when I'm sure many people

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<v Speaker 1>fear dead, yes, then where does that leave everyone? The family's,

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<v Speaker 1>the potential victims, I mean his family in particular, what

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<v Speaker 1>happens then? Does it all go with him? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's excruciating to have those types of allegations be leveled,

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<v Speaker 2>to leave before they're ever actually discussed and certainly litigated,

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<v Speaker 2>to actually have your day in court. But obviously most

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<v Speaker 2>people would draw the conclusion that if you go and

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<v Speaker 2>you decide to end things on your terms, in your way,

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't prepared to face what the allegations were. You

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<v Speaker 2>weren't prepared to defend yourself in the middle of those allegations,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly you didn't feel like you wanted Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to put his family through this, but obviously

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<v Speaker 2>his family is going through this regardless. The area that

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<v Speaker 2>he disappeared into. Just in case you're unfamiliar with this

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<v Speaker 2>tri city area of Virginia, right there in the foothills

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<v Speaker 2>of the Appalachian Mountains. But his home apparently was right

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<v Speaker 2>on the border of this mountainous terrain. But it's described

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<v Speaker 2>as rugged topography, carved by rivers and forests with elevations

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<v Speaker 2>that go up into high peaks. And they just said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the most challenging environments you could

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<v Speaker 2>have for search and rescue operations. They had canine units,

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<v Speaker 2>they had obviously folks searching the area on foot, they've

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<v Speaker 2>had drones. They've even suggested getting heat seeking technology of surveillance.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is such a massive and vast area to cover.

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<v Speaker 2>It just goes to show seven weeks of looking for

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<v Speaker 2>this man and there is no trace of him. That

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<v Speaker 2>is certainly significant. And look, they've even offered a reward

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<v Speaker 2>that happened in early December as well. They've offered five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars for any information that leads to finding track

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<v Speaker 2>this turner, but so far that has turned up nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, folks, we are and again this is another one

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<v Speaker 1>of those cases. Were almost literally checking on this every

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<v Speaker 1>single day since November. We will pass along any updates

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<v Speaker 1>as we've got them, but by all means I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>in the feed. Take a listen back to some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other cases that Robot mentioned. We've went through them

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<v Speaker 1>all and we'll keep an eye, but we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>all spending some time with us. As always on t

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<v Speaker 1>J Holmes on behalf of my dear Emmy Robot. We

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to you alsoon