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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, did is Friday, January ninth, and the coach

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Speaker 1: months later, and we still don't know where he is.

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Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roase.

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Speaker 1: This was a fascinating case from the very beginning. A

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Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with the fact this

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Speaker 1: was an undefeated high school football team in the middle

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Speaker 2: Yes, in the middle of a community where football is king.

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Speaker 2: This was a man who had been the head football

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Speaker 2: coach for more than a decade, was beloved in his community,

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Speaker 2: was a larger than life figure.

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Speaker 3: He was a football king. His father was before.

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Speaker 2: There was legacy behind this man in a town of

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Speaker 2: we still don't know where he is, what condition he

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Speaker 2: may be in, and any validity to the charges that

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Speaker 1: So let's go back then, Robes, to the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: This was a case that got national headlines from the

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Speaker 1: very beginning, and all we knew at the beginning was

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Speaker 1: that he disappeared. Right, there's an undefeated high school football team.

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Speaker 1: They're having a great, great run and poof, the coach

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Speaker 1: goes missing. Now, from the very beginning, robes there was

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Speaker 1: no indication again from the very beginning, that he was

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Speaker 1: what we don't know, but they made clear to us

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Speaker 3: Yes, they just said that they had questions for him.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, we also learned that the school

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Speaker 1: But the authorities wanted to. It seemed like they made

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Speaker 1: And this was a massive search in a very wooded area,

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Speaker 3: That five days? Five days he went missing on November twentieth.

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Speaker 2: We knew that Virginia State Police had been looking to

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Speaker 2: Travis Turner was facing five counts of child pornography possession

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Speaker 2: That is a long time to go by, they were hoping.

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Speaker 2: I really do think you're correct. They didn't want to

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was five day. That is a

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Speaker 1: And there we go November twentieth. We're talking about so

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they made that very very clear that she

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Speaker 2: That was just days away and he was in great spirits.

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Speaker 2: That's how the reporter described him. They also pointed to

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Speaker 3: My husband's done nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: Everything she did and all of her actions were in

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Speaker 1: What are I'm sorry I put you on the spot. I

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Speaker 3: He has three children and two boys and a girl.

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Speaker 3: I don't have their ages right.

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Speaker 2: Now, but young, I mean they're old enough to know

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Speaker 2: The family statement says, if Travis has the ability and

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Speaker 1: This is, I mean, this is the allegations are as

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Speaker 1: I think in here of actual molestation, right at least

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Speaker 1: What that means I don't know, but just the sound

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Speaker 1: He is a fugitive from justice right now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And this is the same man who was named

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Speaker 2: Actually in his community where as we pointed out, football

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Speaker 3: Big article written about him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he really was this big man on campus

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Speaker 3: This is hard to walk back into.

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Speaker 1: And he and you hate to. I mean, who knows,

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Speaker 1: He left everything he needed. They say, this is medication

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Speaker 1: Yes he didn't, he never plans on coming back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is what the fear is by the family.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what is that speculation? Why it could? Is it

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Speaker 1: a matter of protecting some members of that community, not

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Speaker 1: a matter of Travis Turner or his family, But I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is one of the thoughts. The point being

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Speaker 2: until his disappearance. That's a long time with direct access

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Speaker 2: it's now starting to circulate. So perhaps that to quiet

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Speaker 1: But again, given where we are, with this being such

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Speaker 1: something like that is obviously going to make people raise

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And if he is found, when I'm sure many people

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Speaker 1: fear dead, yes, then where does that leave everyone? The family's,

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Speaker 1: happens then? Does it all go with him? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's excruciating to have those types of allegations be leveled,

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Speaker 2: to leave before they're ever actually discussed and certainly litigated,

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Speaker 2: people would draw the conclusion that if you go and

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Speaker 2: you decide to end things on your terms, in your way,

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Speaker 2: you weren't prepared to face what the allegations were. You

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Speaker 2: weren't prepared to defend yourself in the middle of those allegations,

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Speaker 2: and certainly you didn't feel like you wanted Maybe he

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Speaker 2: didn't want to put his family through this, but obviously

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Speaker 2: his family is going through this regardless. The area that

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Speaker 2: he disappeared into. Just in case you're unfamiliar with this

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Speaker 2: as rugged topography, carved by rivers and forests with elevations

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Speaker 2: this is one of the most challenging environments you could

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Speaker 2: have for search and rescue operations. They had canine units,

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Speaker 2: they had obviously folks searching the area on foot, they've

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Speaker 2: had drones. They've even suggested getting heat seeking technology of surveillance.

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Speaker 2: But this is such a massive and vast area to cover.

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Speaker 2: It just goes to show seven weeks of looking for

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Speaker 2: this man and there is no trace of him. That

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Speaker 2: is certainly significant. And look, they've even offered a reward

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Speaker 2: that happened in early December as well. They've offered five

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars for any information that leads to finding track

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Speaker 2: this turner, but so far that has turned up nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, folks, we are and again this is another one

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Speaker 1: of those cases. Were almost literally checking on this every

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Speaker 1: single day since November. We will pass along any updates

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Speaker 1: as we've got them, but by all means I'm back

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Speaker 1: in the feed. Take a listen back to some of

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Speaker 1: these other cases that Robot mentioned. We've went through them

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Speaker 1: all and we'll keep an eye, but we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: all spending some time with us. As always on t

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Speaker 1: J Holmes on behalf of my dear Emmy Robot. We

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Speaker 1: will talk to you alsoon