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With our review 9 00:00:46,565 --> 00:00:50,365 Speaker 2: of Project hail Mary coming this Friday, we thought we 10 00:00:50,405 --> 00:00:54,245 Speaker 2: would share our twenty fourteen top five things from Space 11 00:00:54,925 --> 00:00:58,485 Speaker 2: that came to destroy us. Obviously, the space connection makes 12 00:00:58,525 --> 00:01:01,405 Speaker 2: sense now, not a spoiler. I think everybody knows going 13 00:01:01,485 --> 00:01:04,045 Speaker 2: into Project hail Mary, or maybe they've seen it already, Josh, 14 00:01:04,045 --> 00:01:08,845 Speaker 2: that there's a benevolent alien. Yes, in that film. We 15 00:01:08,845 --> 00:01:14,005 Speaker 2: were tying our top five into Under the Skin, a 16 00:01:14,045 --> 00:01:16,085 Speaker 2: little bit of a different scenario in that one. 17 00:01:16,565 --> 00:01:19,405 Speaker 3: Under the Skin and I have a note here from Sam. 18 00:01:19,645 --> 00:01:22,884 Speaker 3: Did we really give Under this Skin seven minutes? 19 00:01:23,605 --> 00:01:24,805 Speaker 4: How is possible? 20 00:01:25,164 --> 00:01:28,565 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just insulting to an incredible movie for 21 00:01:28,645 --> 00:01:32,565 Speaker 3: one thing. But I guess I guess that's what happened. 22 00:01:32,804 --> 00:01:35,485 Speaker 3: We also reviewed our main review on that show. Jim 23 00:01:35,565 --> 00:01:38,084 Speaker 3: Jarmush is the only lovers left alive. Maybe we went 24 00:01:38,164 --> 00:01:39,804 Speaker 3: long on that. 25 00:01:39,964 --> 00:01:41,645 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I thought it, but you know I 26 00:01:41,645 --> 00:01:44,485 Speaker 2: thought I interviewed Glazer two for that movie, so maybe 27 00:01:44,485 --> 00:01:46,005 Speaker 2: that's why it only that. 28 00:01:45,925 --> 00:01:48,085 Speaker 3: Would explain it, That would explain it, and then we 29 00:01:48,165 --> 00:01:51,085 Speaker 3: just touched on it afterwards. Yeah, a really a really 30 00:01:51,125 --> 00:01:54,605 Speaker 3: great movie that inspired a very fun top five. I 31 00:01:54,685 --> 00:01:56,725 Speaker 3: think we covered I'm not going to give anything away, 32 00:01:56,725 --> 00:01:58,765 Speaker 3: but just looking at our lists, I think we covered 33 00:01:59,445 --> 00:02:05,085 Speaker 3: varied ground here, from sci fi classics to B movies 34 00:02:05,445 --> 00:02:06,685 Speaker 3: to Superhero. 35 00:02:07,765 --> 00:02:10,005 Speaker 1: Yeah, Superhero, So it's a good mix. 36 00:02:10,125 --> 00:02:15,005 Speaker 3: We offered on this list Top five things from space 37 00:02:15,805 --> 00:02:19,445 Speaker 3: that came to destroy us. That's from April twenty fourteen. 38 00:02:19,845 --> 00:02:24,205 Speaker 5: Youth criminals have been causing a further act of seditious treason. 39 00:02:25,365 --> 00:02:29,285 Speaker 5: General Zod, your only feeling was to contempt for our society. 40 00:02:30,005 --> 00:02:33,685 Speaker 4: Your only desire was to command Ursa. 41 00:02:34,285 --> 00:02:36,845 Speaker 5: The only feeling you showed was from the vicious. 42 00:02:36,525 --> 00:02:40,684 Speaker 2: General Terrence stamp Zod and his cronies. They're banished to 43 00:02:40,764 --> 00:02:45,005 Speaker 2: the phantom zone in that scene from nineteen seventy eight, Superman, Zod, 44 00:02:45,405 --> 00:02:48,605 Speaker 2: Ursa and Non all contenders for our top five. This week, though, 45 00:02:49,044 --> 00:02:50,925 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. If you're gonna pick one of those 46 00:02:50,965 --> 00:02:53,445 Speaker 2: three as a contender for our top five, it's got 47 00:02:53,445 --> 00:02:56,924 Speaker 2: to be Non Non sure, I mean, the unsung hero 48 00:02:57,085 --> 00:02:58,044 Speaker 2: of that TRIUMVIHR, and. 49 00:02:57,965 --> 00:02:59,965 Speaker 1: I think really I'd go with Ursa. 50 00:03:00,044 --> 00:03:03,364 Speaker 3: I mean, finally, you know, maybe there are earlier examples, 51 00:03:03,405 --> 00:03:06,125 Speaker 3: but it was just so thrilling to see a female 52 00:03:06,165 --> 00:03:07,885 Speaker 3: like badass villain, right. 53 00:03:07,924 --> 00:03:08,725 Speaker 4: I don't know how. 54 00:03:08,605 --> 00:03:09,285 Speaker 1: Often we got that. 55 00:03:09,484 --> 00:03:10,685 Speaker 4: No, no, good point. 56 00:03:10,725 --> 00:03:12,125 Speaker 3: Although I don't think any of them would like you 57 00:03:12,204 --> 00:03:15,125 Speaker 3: calling them cronies. Good point, so careful. 58 00:03:14,805 --> 00:03:16,725 Speaker 4: They would not. But that is our top five this week. 59 00:03:16,764 --> 00:03:19,685 Speaker 2: Things from Space that came to destroy us In Josh, 60 00:03:19,805 --> 00:03:22,244 Speaker 2: we both like to use these as a chance to 61 00:03:22,285 --> 00:03:24,685 Speaker 2: catch up with some movies we've overlooked in the past. 62 00:03:24,725 --> 00:03:26,765 Speaker 2: You are just a little more diligent about it than 63 00:03:26,805 --> 00:03:28,845 Speaker 2: I am most of the time. Was that the case 64 00:03:28,924 --> 00:03:29,365 Speaker 2: this week? 65 00:03:29,565 --> 00:03:32,084 Speaker 3: It was, I mean, give me an excuse to go 66 00:03:32,165 --> 00:03:35,085 Speaker 3: check out some nineteen fifties sci fi I'd never seen. Yeah, 67 00:03:35,285 --> 00:03:38,325 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to make time for that. So three 68 00:03:38,725 --> 00:03:41,085 Speaker 3: of these picks, no, actually I did see three things, 69 00:03:41,085 --> 00:03:42,645 Speaker 3: only two made my list. One I was a little 70 00:03:42,645 --> 00:03:45,885 Speaker 3: disappointed in so maybe we'll get to that. My number five, though, 71 00:03:46,365 --> 00:03:48,925 Speaker 3: is one I had not only seen, but I saw 72 00:03:49,245 --> 00:03:50,205 Speaker 3: a long, long time ago. 73 00:03:50,445 --> 00:03:51,605 Speaker 4: It's The War of the Worlds. 74 00:03:51,925 --> 00:03:54,325 Speaker 3: I'm going to give my nineteen fifties American sci fi 75 00:03:54,365 --> 00:03:57,485 Speaker 3: slot to the nineteen fifty three adaptation of the HG. 76 00:03:57,605 --> 00:04:01,405 Speaker 3: Wells novel, though I do like Steven Spielberg's recent remake. 77 00:04:01,725 --> 00:04:06,285 Speaker 3: I first encountered this on wgntv's Sunday afternoon movie series 78 00:04:06,325 --> 00:04:09,085 Speaker 3: when I was a kid, called Family Classics, because you 79 00:04:09,125 --> 00:04:12,085 Speaker 3: know what's better family fun than watching the Earth be 80 00:04:12,125 --> 00:04:14,404 Speaker 3: destroyed by martians. I don't know quite how bad fit 81 00:04:14,925 --> 00:04:18,205 Speaker 3: the programming, but since that time, there's really only been 82 00:04:18,285 --> 00:04:22,404 Speaker 3: one sound that signifies an oncoming alien invasion for me, 83 00:04:22,765 --> 00:04:25,565 Speaker 3: and it's that piercing laser of noise that feels like 84 00:04:25,605 --> 00:04:27,405 Speaker 3: it's burrowing into your brain. 85 00:04:31,645 --> 00:04:33,005 Speaker 4: The noise does seem. 86 00:04:32,725 --> 00:04:36,165 Speaker 3: To come from the alien spacecrafts in the film, and 87 00:04:36,285 --> 00:04:39,285 Speaker 3: they're probably the slickest special effects in the War of 88 00:04:39,325 --> 00:04:43,205 Speaker 3: the Worlds. They're curved wings, they're something like metallic bats. 89 00:04:43,685 --> 00:04:46,005 Speaker 3: Just was really fascinated by those as a kid, and 90 00:04:46,045 --> 00:04:46,925 Speaker 3: I think they still. 91 00:04:46,685 --> 00:04:47,525 Speaker 4: Hold up pretty well. 92 00:04:52,485 --> 00:04:54,724 Speaker 1: The aliens themselves not so much. 93 00:04:54,765 --> 00:04:56,645 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen this or remember these, 94 00:04:56,685 --> 00:04:59,765 Speaker 3: but they're really not that impressive. When we do finally 95 00:04:59,805 --> 00:05:02,165 Speaker 3: get to see them face to face, there's something like 96 00:05:02,325 --> 00:05:05,885 Speaker 3: an obese et. But then for some reason, right in 97 00:05:05,925 --> 00:05:08,365 Speaker 3: the middle they have this disco ball where their face 98 00:05:08,365 --> 00:05:11,245 Speaker 3: should be, so I don't know what the thinking was there. 99 00:05:11,284 --> 00:05:13,604 Speaker 3: They don't quite work as well, but still this is 100 00:05:13,885 --> 00:05:16,525 Speaker 3: at least where things started for me in terms of 101 00:05:16,605 --> 00:05:18,725 Speaker 3: alien invasion movies, with the War of the World, So 102 00:05:18,765 --> 00:05:20,125 Speaker 3: that's where I want them to start my list. 103 00:05:21,645 --> 00:05:24,085 Speaker 5: Who where'd you think they come from? 104 00:05:24,085 --> 00:05:24,685 Speaker 4: How would I know? 105 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:27,645 Speaker 5: In some place Mars is near? There is right now? 106 00:05:28,685 --> 00:05:32,885 Speaker 5: Happened to aging twenty years you say from mah. 107 00:05:33,805 --> 00:05:36,205 Speaker 2: Sadly, I have not seen the original War of the World. 108 00:05:36,284 --> 00:05:38,885 Speaker 2: I've only seen the Spielberg version, and I'm not as 109 00:05:38,964 --> 00:05:41,005 Speaker 2: much of a fan of it as you are. So 110 00:05:41,325 --> 00:05:43,364 Speaker 2: didn't come close to making my list here. And I 111 00:05:43,365 --> 00:05:46,365 Speaker 2: think the one movie maybe we do need to acknowledge upfront. 112 00:05:46,365 --> 00:05:48,565 Speaker 2: Did you consider one of our former Sacred Cows two 113 00:05:48,565 --> 00:05:51,125 Speaker 2: thousand and one is the monolith and object that was 114 00:05:51,165 --> 00:05:52,165 Speaker 2: sent to destroy us? 115 00:05:52,284 --> 00:05:54,964 Speaker 3: Boy, well, that's kind of what we've spent a lot 116 00:05:55,005 --> 00:05:57,964 Speaker 3: of time it was seen about. I think I fell 117 00:05:58,005 --> 00:06:02,685 Speaker 3: more along the lines of that's what it ends up doing. 118 00:06:03,765 --> 00:06:07,445 Speaker 2: That was the intent, maybe facilitating our destruction, own our 119 00:06:07,485 --> 00:06:10,404 Speaker 2: own destruction at any rate, before we get too far derailed. 120 00:06:10,445 --> 00:06:12,685 Speaker 1: In two thousand and one talk, I did not consider it. 121 00:06:12,805 --> 00:06:16,445 Speaker 2: Okay, well I did, but ultimately decided I couldn't get 122 00:06:16,445 --> 00:06:19,045 Speaker 2: a grasp on it, so I ruled it out. Plus, 123 00:06:19,085 --> 00:06:20,885 Speaker 2: it should be in our pantheon, and maybe it's sent 124 00:06:21,045 --> 00:06:24,565 Speaker 2: point it will be my number five. Well, you already 125 00:06:24,605 --> 00:06:27,485 Speaker 2: heard it. We played it coming into this segment, General Zod, 126 00:06:27,565 --> 00:06:30,964 Speaker 2: I'm not going with non or Ursa sorry from Superman two, 127 00:06:31,045 --> 00:06:33,245 Speaker 2: of course, not Superman one. But I love that we 128 00:06:33,325 --> 00:06:36,924 Speaker 2: played that scene because that's our introduction to them, and 129 00:06:36,964 --> 00:06:40,404 Speaker 2: it happens at the beginning of the first Superman. 130 00:06:40,565 --> 00:06:41,805 Speaker 4: We never see them again. 131 00:06:42,205 --> 00:06:46,005 Speaker 2: And you almost don't understand why this franchise, which you 132 00:06:46,005 --> 00:06:47,645 Speaker 2: don't know is a franchise at the time, But why 133 00:06:47,725 --> 00:06:50,484 Speaker 2: is it spending time giving us this courtroom scene and 134 00:06:50,525 --> 00:06:52,645 Speaker 2: banishing these three characters who aren' gonna have. 135 00:06:52,605 --> 00:06:53,964 Speaker 4: Any role in the movie whatsoever. 136 00:06:54,045 --> 00:06:56,285 Speaker 2: Well, of course we come to see that they are 137 00:06:56,645 --> 00:06:59,245 Speaker 2: major players in Superman two, but I always loved that 138 00:06:59,365 --> 00:07:02,325 Speaker 2: opening scene with them and that guilty when I was 139 00:07:02,365 --> 00:07:05,085 Speaker 2: a kid, those faces behind the black and just their 140 00:07:05,085 --> 00:07:07,844 Speaker 2: big heads, them saying guilty that way. 141 00:07:07,885 --> 00:07:09,045 Speaker 4: That used to kind of scare me. 142 00:07:09,125 --> 00:07:11,605 Speaker 2: Actually, So there was some excitement there with the beginning 143 00:07:11,845 --> 00:07:14,765 Speaker 2: of Superman one, but it is in Superman two where 144 00:07:14,965 --> 00:07:18,165 Speaker 2: due to an accident, just a random bit of coincidence, 145 00:07:18,165 --> 00:07:21,405 Speaker 2: where of course Superman throws that nuclear missile out into 146 00:07:21,445 --> 00:07:23,965 Speaker 2: space and it happens to hit the. 147 00:07:23,845 --> 00:07:26,045 Speaker 4: Mirror, the phantom mirror bigger. 148 00:07:26,245 --> 00:07:28,525 Speaker 2: I know you would think so, right, but it does 149 00:07:28,645 --> 00:07:31,685 Speaker 2: free them. And there's a lot I could say about 150 00:07:31,765 --> 00:07:35,605 Speaker 2: Terrence Stamp's performance and why I think it's so amazingly fun. 151 00:07:36,005 --> 00:07:38,285 Speaker 2: And it gets back to our discussion of only Lovers 152 00:07:38,365 --> 00:07:40,805 Speaker 2: Left Alive in the first segment right where you've got 153 00:07:40,805 --> 00:07:44,684 Speaker 2: this British thespian who can handle the theatricality of Zod 154 00:07:44,725 --> 00:07:47,245 Speaker 2: and really pull it off without it being campy. But 155 00:07:47,285 --> 00:07:49,725 Speaker 2: the funniest scene, the best scene, is the one with 156 00:07:49,845 --> 00:07:53,445 Speaker 2: the President where he makes the President kneel before him 157 00:07:53,685 --> 00:07:56,525 Speaker 2: and they have this dialogue scene and whatever, and the 158 00:07:56,525 --> 00:07:58,885 Speaker 2: President finally reluctantly kneels down. 159 00:07:58,765 --> 00:07:59,525 Speaker 4: And it's so great. 160 00:07:59,765 --> 00:08:03,244 Speaker 2: He goes, Oh God as he kneels down the president 161 00:08:03,325 --> 00:08:05,885 Speaker 2: like he's so dismayed and shame. He says, oh God, 162 00:08:05,925 --> 00:08:11,925 Speaker 2: and Stamp says, Zod. Yeah, And it's just perfect. And 163 00:08:12,005 --> 00:08:14,885 Speaker 2: it sums up that character and his sense of arrogance 164 00:08:14,885 --> 00:08:16,845 Speaker 2: and omnipotence so well. 165 00:08:16,925 --> 00:08:20,845 Speaker 4: And I read this and doing some research for this list. 166 00:08:20,645 --> 00:08:23,005 Speaker 2: Where I was curious what Terence Stamp looks back on 167 00:08:23,045 --> 00:08:24,725 Speaker 2: this movie, how he looks back on it, whether or 168 00:08:24,765 --> 00:08:26,525 Speaker 2: not he has high regard for it, And he does 169 00:08:26,605 --> 00:08:29,405 Speaker 2: because it was for him a return to kind of 170 00:08:29,445 --> 00:08:31,124 Speaker 2: mainstream culture, returned to acting. 171 00:08:31,165 --> 00:08:32,285 Speaker 4: He'd been out of it for a while. 172 00:08:32,325 --> 00:08:34,725 Speaker 2: He wasn't really getting any good parts anymore, and he 173 00:08:34,765 --> 00:08:38,804 Speaker 2: had actually taken this long hiatus and gone to India. 174 00:08:39,485 --> 00:08:42,885 Speaker 2: And when asked about it recently in an interview when 175 00:08:42,885 --> 00:08:44,805 Speaker 2: Man of Steel was coming out, and of course Michael 176 00:08:44,805 --> 00:08:48,605 Speaker 2: Shannon reprises the role as Zod, this is what Darren 177 00:08:48,645 --> 00:08:52,045 Speaker 2: Stamp had to say about maybe the secret behind his performance. 178 00:08:52,445 --> 00:08:54,365 Speaker 2: In discussing Shannon, he said, all I can say is 179 00:08:54,405 --> 00:08:56,765 Speaker 2: he needs to be very present. When I walked onto 180 00:08:56,765 --> 00:08:59,045 Speaker 2: that set, I'd been in an ashram for a year, 181 00:08:59,365 --> 00:09:03,885 Speaker 2: learning to separate orgasm from ejaculation. I was rechanneling the 182 00:09:03,965 --> 00:09:06,405 Speaker 2: life force and I hadn't been working, and when I 183 00:09:06,445 --> 00:09:08,885 Speaker 2: walked on the set, it seemed like everyone was asleep, 184 00:09:08,965 --> 00:09:10,645 Speaker 2: but I was so so ready. 185 00:09:10,564 --> 00:09:12,365 Speaker 1: Boy, you know, and I always I could feel that 186 00:09:12,485 --> 00:09:13,485 Speaker 1: in his performance. 187 00:09:13,684 --> 00:09:15,005 Speaker 4: That's how good of an actor he is. 188 00:09:15,045 --> 00:09:18,405 Speaker 2: He channeled that life force into Zod and that's why 189 00:09:18,445 --> 00:09:20,725 Speaker 2: he's not only one of our great movie villains, but 190 00:09:20,845 --> 00:09:22,685 Speaker 2: he is my number five thing for space. It didn't 191 00:09:22,684 --> 00:09:25,084 Speaker 2: come so much to destroy us, but to subjugate us. 192 00:09:25,205 --> 00:09:25,925 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 193 00:09:26,045 --> 00:09:27,805 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to think Stamp at least 194 00:09:27,804 --> 00:09:30,244 Speaker 1: regrets those black, lamey outfits. 195 00:09:30,325 --> 00:09:31,765 Speaker 4: I don't know if they don't hold. 196 00:09:31,645 --> 00:09:33,765 Speaker 3: Up quite as well. But it is a great performance. 197 00:09:33,845 --> 00:09:35,765 Speaker 3: The fun is what makes it work. You're absolutely right, 198 00:09:36,085 --> 00:09:38,285 Speaker 3: all right. For my number four, it's time for me 199 00:09:38,365 --> 00:09:42,125 Speaker 3: to play M Knight Chayamalan apologist yet again. Though I 200 00:09:42,165 --> 00:09:44,324 Speaker 3: always like to note my loyalty only goes so. 201 00:09:44,325 --> 00:09:45,645 Speaker 1: Far as Lady in the Water. I know for a 202 00:09:45,645 --> 00:09:46,804 Speaker 1: lot of people that's still too far. 203 00:09:46,885 --> 00:09:48,005 Speaker 4: It is too far, but it does. 204 00:09:48,125 --> 00:09:49,885 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna just start referring to as my co 205 00:09:49,965 --> 00:09:52,165 Speaker 2: host M Night Shyamalan apologist. 206 00:09:52,845 --> 00:09:55,605 Speaker 3: No, I don't think that would go well Signs, though 207 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:58,405 Speaker 3: I think it's his best film, I will apologize for that. 208 00:09:58,405 --> 00:10:01,405 Speaker 3: Though it has plenty of fans, I think we're still 209 00:10:01,485 --> 00:10:04,365 Speaker 3: not bored for this one. It's really an internal character 210 00:10:04,405 --> 00:10:06,925 Speaker 3: study in a lot of ways, but it nevertheless delivers 211 00:10:06,925 --> 00:10:09,005 Speaker 3: on the thrills he was still capable of doing that. 212 00:10:09,325 --> 00:10:12,245 Speaker 3: It's a genre reworking of something like The War of 213 00:10:12,285 --> 00:10:15,085 Speaker 3: the World's It's a perspective of an event that takes 214 00:10:15,085 --> 00:10:16,724 Speaker 3: place in the War of the World, but here you're 215 00:10:16,725 --> 00:10:21,204 Speaker 3: not spanning the globe. It's almost claustrophobically realized, because you're 216 00:10:21,205 --> 00:10:24,325 Speaker 3: asking what would an alien invasion, a worldwide alien invasion, 217 00:10:24,365 --> 00:10:26,125 Speaker 3: look like from the point of view of one family 218 00:10:26,525 --> 00:10:30,605 Speaker 3: in one remote farmhouse. Mel Gibson gives a strong performance 219 00:10:30,645 --> 00:10:33,564 Speaker 3: here as this misfit father and widower. He's a former 220 00:10:33,605 --> 00:10:35,885 Speaker 3: priest and he's closed himself and his kids off from 221 00:10:35,885 --> 00:10:39,045 Speaker 3: the rest of the world on this farm. Joaquin Phoenix, 222 00:10:39,085 --> 00:10:41,724 Speaker 3: I think is pretty funny as Gibson's younger brother, this 223 00:10:41,765 --> 00:10:45,445 Speaker 3: one time minor league baseball star. Now the aliens themselves 224 00:10:45,525 --> 00:10:47,445 Speaker 3: are largely in the background. 225 00:10:47,085 --> 00:10:49,684 Speaker 4: As proposed to all until the end, Well, no, we 226 00:10:49,725 --> 00:10:50,205 Speaker 4: see them. 227 00:10:50,445 --> 00:10:53,525 Speaker 3: I revisited this scene and a lot of people complained 228 00:10:53,525 --> 00:10:54,604 Speaker 3: about the aliens. 229 00:10:54,205 --> 00:10:54,885 Speaker 4: When this movie. 230 00:10:56,285 --> 00:10:59,645 Speaker 3: No, it's when Joaquin Phoenix is watching news report on 231 00:10:59,725 --> 00:11:03,005 Speaker 3: television at a birthday party, a little kid's birthday party, 232 00:11:03,405 --> 00:11:05,724 Speaker 3: and they're all looking out the window. It's a home 233 00:11:05,804 --> 00:11:08,084 Speaker 3: movie camera, wondering what's out there, what's out there? And 234 00:11:08,125 --> 00:11:09,964 Speaker 3: you just get this one climpse and it's pretty much 235 00:11:09,965 --> 00:11:12,645 Speaker 3: it's like a green humanoid figure. It's nothing much in 236 00:11:12,725 --> 00:11:15,005 Speaker 3: terms of special effects. But what I love, and this 237 00:11:15,085 --> 00:11:17,804 Speaker 3: is what is the puzzle about Shyamalan, like where this went, 238 00:11:17,925 --> 00:11:20,005 Speaker 3: is how he plays that scene because it's a parody 239 00:11:20,365 --> 00:11:22,724 Speaker 3: of a lot of moments, but it still works as 240 00:11:22,804 --> 00:11:25,885 Speaker 3: one too. It's really funny. And that's where we first 241 00:11:25,965 --> 00:11:28,685 Speaker 3: get to see these aliens. But then they do show 242 00:11:28,804 --> 00:11:31,245 Speaker 3: up more directly in the climax. And this is another 243 00:11:31,245 --> 00:11:33,844 Speaker 3: great thing about science is it shifts genres all of 244 00:11:33,845 --> 00:11:36,725 Speaker 3: a sudden, because now it becomes in essence a zombie film. 245 00:11:36,845 --> 00:11:38,925 Speaker 3: We've got Gibson and his family hold up in this 246 00:11:39,045 --> 00:11:42,485 Speaker 3: farmhouse under attack, just like the protagonists were in Night 247 00:11:42,525 --> 00:11:45,205 Speaker 3: of the Living Dead. So I do have another movie 248 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:47,565 Speaker 3: coming up on my list that mixes sci fi and 249 00:11:47,845 --> 00:11:51,245 Speaker 3: horror a little bit less elegantly, but I'll save that 250 00:11:51,285 --> 00:11:52,765 Speaker 3: for now. Signs is my number four. 251 00:11:52,845 --> 00:11:53,165 Speaker 4: Okay. 252 00:11:53,285 --> 00:11:55,205 Speaker 2: Like I said, I was a fan of Signs when 253 00:11:55,205 --> 00:11:56,805 Speaker 2: it came out. I've still only seen it once. But 254 00:11:57,045 --> 00:11:59,564 Speaker 2: in terms of feeling like a director was in complete 255 00:11:59,605 --> 00:12:02,285 Speaker 2: control of his audience and yeah, pulling all the right strings, 256 00:12:02,564 --> 00:12:04,925 Speaker 2: that's what I thought about Shyamalan there. Unfortunately I haven't 257 00:12:04,925 --> 00:12:07,365 Speaker 2: felt that again with him. I don't think many moviegoers have. 258 00:12:07,925 --> 00:12:11,765 Speaker 2: I realized that my list here is dominated by eighties movies. 259 00:12:12,005 --> 00:12:14,645 Speaker 2: As a child of the eighties, maybe not a big surprise. 260 00:12:14,725 --> 00:12:18,725 Speaker 2: And my number four is the Predator. All Predator. 261 00:12:18,885 --> 00:12:22,045 Speaker 4: Who's that backup? No such things, old buddy, this is 262 00:12:22,085 --> 00:12:25,165 Speaker 4: a one way ticket. Once we've crossed that boarder, we're 263 00:12:25,245 --> 00:12:25,765 Speaker 4: on our own. 264 00:12:28,045 --> 00:12:31,365 Speaker 1: He's just get a minute Predator. 265 00:12:31,405 --> 00:12:31,684 Speaker 4: I did. 266 00:12:31,725 --> 00:12:33,844 Speaker 2: I totally had to go Predator, and I actually really 267 00:12:33,885 --> 00:12:35,885 Speaker 2: relish the fact that I get to talk about Predator 268 00:12:35,885 --> 00:12:36,765 Speaker 2: here a little bit. 269 00:12:37,005 --> 00:12:39,844 Speaker 4: And what's funny is, of course, as I was. 270 00:12:39,845 --> 00:12:42,925 Speaker 2: Forming my list and thinking, yeah, the Predator is definitely 271 00:12:42,965 --> 00:12:46,444 Speaker 2: making it, I wondered, is it possible that somebody out 272 00:12:46,485 --> 00:12:49,485 Speaker 2: there has some grand take on this movie, this film 273 00:12:49,485 --> 00:12:51,725 Speaker 2: that I always just thought was this dumb action movie 274 00:12:51,725 --> 00:12:53,765 Speaker 2: from the eighties, albeit one I really liked. 275 00:12:54,245 --> 00:13:02,605 Speaker 4: Is it somehow deeper than that thick around knock knock? 276 00:13:03,684 --> 00:13:05,605 Speaker 2: Is it some kind of allegory for something else? So 277 00:13:05,645 --> 00:13:07,565 Speaker 2: I started googling to see what I could come up with. 278 00:13:07,645 --> 00:13:09,365 Speaker 4: The answer is no, before you started google. 279 00:13:09,445 --> 00:13:12,324 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, Josh, we'll see, because I did find 280 00:13:12,365 --> 00:13:15,885 Speaker 2: this take from Jake Cole. You may be familiar with 281 00:13:15,925 --> 00:13:17,925 Speaker 2: him as well. I think you may follow him on letterbox. 282 00:13:17,965 --> 00:13:19,604 Speaker 2: That's the only place I know him from. He's a 283 00:13:19,605 --> 00:13:22,565 Speaker 2: freelance critic and he on letterbox, and this is his 284 00:13:22,684 --> 00:13:26,725 Speaker 2: letterbox review of Predator starts as a critique of Reagan 285 00:13:26,765 --> 00:13:30,925 Speaker 2: era CIA operations with slaughters in Latin American jungles designed 286 00:13:30,925 --> 00:13:33,205 Speaker 2: to protect certain interests, interests, by the way, that have 287 00:13:33,245 --> 00:13:35,204 Speaker 2: nothing to do with those doing the fighting, who must 288 00:13:35,245 --> 00:13:37,125 Speaker 2: be lied to to even get them to sign up. 289 00:13:37,285 --> 00:13:39,684 Speaker 2: But then it moves far deeper as his political commentary 290 00:13:39,725 --> 00:13:43,565 Speaker 2: is extrapolated into a moral and biological abstract. McTiernan that's 291 00:13:43,684 --> 00:13:47,965 Speaker 2: director John McTiernan routinely redefines who is the technologically superior force, 292 00:13:48,205 --> 00:13:50,405 Speaker 2: and who is outgunned, who is invisible, and who is 293 00:13:50,405 --> 00:13:52,565 Speaker 2: a sitting duck, and who is fighting for survival and 294 00:13:52,564 --> 00:13:55,645 Speaker 2: who is simply displaying primal savagery. The predator could be 295 00:13:55,645 --> 00:13:58,725 Speaker 2: the spirit of the massacred guerrillas, becoming the jungle itself 296 00:13:58,765 --> 00:14:01,205 Speaker 2: as a picks off imperial invaders, but it is also 297 00:14:01,245 --> 00:14:03,645 Speaker 2: of course an invader itself, killing for the sport of it. 298 00:14:03,965 --> 00:14:06,564 Speaker 2: By moving well beyond in a neat thematic notion, McTiernan 299 00:14:06,684 --> 00:14:08,645 Speaker 2: could easily have lost track of the film, but the 300 00:14:08,765 --> 00:14:11,444 Speaker 2: editing and shot construction make clear visually what almost sounds 301 00:14:11,445 --> 00:14:13,444 Speaker 2: like a head trip on paper. What starts as a 302 00:14:13,485 --> 00:14:16,805 Speaker 2: potential commentary and eighties American politics slowly undermines the generic 303 00:14:16,845 --> 00:14:21,885 Speaker 2: themes that celebrated that foreign policy through blockbusters valiant effort. 304 00:14:22,045 --> 00:14:24,245 Speaker 4: You're bleeding man, I ain't got time to believe you 305 00:14:27,285 --> 00:14:31,045 Speaker 4: pullshite all of it. The cabinet minister of the whole 306 00:14:31,045 --> 00:14:34,085 Speaker 4: business to get somebody and who could cut these vessels. 307 00:14:34,245 --> 00:14:35,965 Speaker 4: So he cooked up a story and dropped the six 308 00:14:35,965 --> 00:14:41,725 Speaker 4: of us enemy Brinda, what happened to you do? 309 00:14:41,765 --> 00:14:41,845 Speaker 2: Here? 310 00:14:41,965 --> 00:14:42,725 Speaker 4: Used to be somebody that. 311 00:14:42,725 --> 00:14:45,605 Speaker 2: Could trust And I don't think he's kidding. 312 00:14:45,805 --> 00:14:47,525 Speaker 4: I don't think he's being ironic. No, no, I don't 313 00:14:47,525 --> 00:14:48,205 Speaker 4: think he is either. 314 00:14:48,245 --> 00:14:52,485 Speaker 3: And we've acknowledged McTiernan with Diehards show Lily into Yes, 315 00:14:52,565 --> 00:14:53,885 Speaker 3: spoof macho tendencies. 316 00:14:53,925 --> 00:14:55,365 Speaker 4: But are we buying any of that? 317 00:14:56,165 --> 00:14:59,365 Speaker 1: You know too much? I was dazzled by the beef cakery. 318 00:14:59,365 --> 00:15:02,885 Speaker 1: I couldn't pick up on any of that right going on? 319 00:15:03,085 --> 00:15:05,845 Speaker 2: Just his body, I mean Carl Weather's yeah, you know, 320 00:15:06,085 --> 00:15:09,325 Speaker 2: and surely everyone listening is seen Predator stuck in the jungle. 321 00:15:09,405 --> 00:15:12,005 Speaker 2: This this predator, this alien being. They have to figure 322 00:15:12,005 --> 00:15:14,485 Speaker 2: out what it is is hunting them down. That's the plot. 323 00:15:14,965 --> 00:15:18,845 Speaker 3: I will say that it's an awesome alien. I mean, 324 00:15:19,325 --> 00:15:21,325 Speaker 3: as a kid, I was wowed by the alien. 325 00:15:21,405 --> 00:15:25,285 Speaker 1: I have seen it recently. Terrible film, but awesome aliens. 326 00:15:25,285 --> 00:15:27,805 Speaker 2: Okay, so I hadn't seen the list, but that's what 327 00:15:27,845 --> 00:15:30,205 Speaker 2: I wanted to say. I always thought that of the 328 00:15:30,205 --> 00:15:32,765 Speaker 2: movies I loved when I was twelve years old, I 329 00:15:32,805 --> 00:15:35,885 Speaker 2: thought Predator is one that would actually possibly hold up, 330 00:15:35,965 --> 00:15:38,365 Speaker 2: or at least hold up better than some others, because 331 00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:41,405 Speaker 2: of its simplicity of its story, it's simplicity of purpose, 332 00:15:41,445 --> 00:15:44,365 Speaker 2: the clarity of its characters. What everyone's after And I'm 333 00:15:44,405 --> 00:15:47,365 Speaker 2: sure there are some laffable lines and some laffable line deliveries, 334 00:15:47,405 --> 00:15:49,485 Speaker 2: but I think they're all of a piece, and I 335 00:15:49,565 --> 00:15:52,125 Speaker 2: do like the alien. That's why Predator made this list 336 00:15:52,165 --> 00:15:54,525 Speaker 2: because of that mystery that drives the film. 337 00:15:54,685 --> 00:15:55,645 Speaker 4: What is this thing? 338 00:15:55,685 --> 00:15:57,725 Speaker 2: And the way you see it blending into the jungle, 339 00:15:57,885 --> 00:15:59,725 Speaker 2: so you don't ever really get a beat on what 340 00:15:59,805 --> 00:16:02,005 Speaker 2: it is and the mystery of its motivations. Okay, it's 341 00:16:02,005 --> 00:16:04,205 Speaker 2: clearly here to kill them, but why we don't really 342 00:16:04,245 --> 00:16:06,805 Speaker 2: understand it until you know a good way portion through 343 00:16:06,805 --> 00:16:10,045 Speaker 2: the movie. It's also Josh distinct from the other aliens 344 00:16:10,085 --> 00:16:12,525 Speaker 2: on my list and probably yours, and that it really 345 00:16:12,565 --> 00:16:17,005 Speaker 2: isn't here to destroy us. It's not here to destroy humanity. 346 00:16:17,085 --> 00:16:20,365 Speaker 2: It doesn't have any grand designs on destruction or enslavement 347 00:16:20,485 --> 00:16:22,125 Speaker 2: or using peace people for food or whatever. 348 00:16:22,245 --> 00:16:24,245 Speaker 4: It turns out. It's just here for sport. 349 00:16:24,445 --> 00:16:26,885 Speaker 2: It probably travels all around the universe going to whatever 350 00:16:26,885 --> 00:16:29,245 Speaker 2: places it can find, or at least all over this 351 00:16:29,325 --> 00:16:32,765 Speaker 2: planet looking for different things to hunt down and kill, 352 00:16:33,045 --> 00:16:35,445 Speaker 2: and it really doesn't have anything bigger than that that 353 00:16:35,485 --> 00:16:38,845 Speaker 2: it's trying to accomplish. Is there any kind of commentary 354 00:16:39,365 --> 00:16:42,605 Speaker 2: in the fact that this creature travels to this foreign 355 00:16:42,685 --> 00:16:45,565 Speaker 2: country to find this elite American fighting force in order 356 00:16:45,605 --> 00:16:48,285 Speaker 2: to have a good time, and the force itself seems 357 00:16:48,325 --> 00:16:51,405 Speaker 2: to be somewhat out for the sport of it themselves. 358 00:16:51,965 --> 00:16:53,845 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know that I'm going to go there, 359 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:56,125 Speaker 2: but the fact is John McTiernan had that run in 360 00:16:56,165 --> 00:16:58,405 Speaker 2: the eighties of Predator, Diehard, of The Hunt for Red 361 00:16:58,445 --> 00:17:01,525 Speaker 2: October three really good action films from the eighties, at 362 00:17:01,605 --> 00:17:03,365 Speaker 2: least that's how I remember them. 363 00:17:03,485 --> 00:17:05,805 Speaker 4: I have not caught up with Predator in a long time. 364 00:17:10,125 --> 00:17:13,685 Speaker 3: I know I shouldn't say this, but I'm recommending Predators 365 00:17:13,725 --> 00:17:14,565 Speaker 3: from twenty. 366 00:17:14,285 --> 00:17:16,725 Speaker 4: Ten, which really which is no. 367 00:17:17,205 --> 00:17:21,765 Speaker 3: Yes, it's film no Adrian Brody, directed by I'm rod antal. 368 00:17:21,965 --> 00:17:24,285 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, it is a better film. Though 369 00:17:24,485 --> 00:17:26,805 Speaker 3: it is a better film, all right now. I'm going 370 00:17:26,845 --> 00:17:28,925 Speaker 3: to pay for that, I know it. My number three, 371 00:17:29,205 --> 00:17:31,365 Speaker 3: this is one that I was able to catch up 372 00:17:31,365 --> 00:17:34,045 Speaker 3: with for the first time. I had actually never seen 373 00:17:34,085 --> 00:17:36,605 Speaker 3: one of the supposed worst movies of all time, and 374 00:17:36,645 --> 00:17:38,125 Speaker 3: all I can say is that it lives up to 375 00:17:38,165 --> 00:17:41,245 Speaker 3: its reputation. It's Plan nine from outer Space, and it's 376 00:17:41,325 --> 00:17:43,405 Speaker 3: not just that this is good bad. I mean, we 377 00:17:43,445 --> 00:17:46,045 Speaker 3: have plenty of those, especially in the sci fi genre. 378 00:17:46,205 --> 00:17:49,005 Speaker 3: But it's more that director Edward de Wood Junior. He 379 00:17:49,045 --> 00:17:52,005 Speaker 3: brings a confidence to this material you could just feel 380 00:17:52,085 --> 00:17:55,005 Speaker 3: coming off the screen, and it can only be attributed 381 00:17:55,045 --> 00:17:58,045 Speaker 3: to extreme self delusion. So we have the epitome of 382 00:17:58,165 --> 00:18:00,605 Speaker 3: camp here. I mean, mind you, this came out in 383 00:18:00,685 --> 00:18:03,685 Speaker 3: nineteen fifty nine, so we're six years right after the 384 00:18:03,725 --> 00:18:06,525 Speaker 3: War of the Worlds, which has not the creatures, but 385 00:18:06,525 --> 00:18:10,085 Speaker 3: those spacecraft are pretty impressive effects. Yet Wood here it 386 00:18:10,165 --> 00:18:15,205 Speaker 3: includes countless insert shots of his flying frying pans, as 387 00:18:15,205 --> 00:18:18,205 Speaker 3: if they're equal to that or better or an improvement, 388 00:18:18,845 --> 00:18:19,845 Speaker 3: and there's just. 389 00:18:19,805 --> 00:18:20,565 Speaker 1: No way that they are. 390 00:18:20,605 --> 00:18:24,525 Speaker 3: It also has stabs at poetic dialogue and voiceover narration 391 00:18:24,605 --> 00:18:27,165 Speaker 3: that's spoken with the utmost sincerity. One of my favorite 392 00:18:27,165 --> 00:18:29,525 Speaker 3: lines is it was the sundown of the day, but 393 00:18:29,645 --> 00:18:32,765 Speaker 3: also the sundown of the old man's heart. That old man, 394 00:18:32,805 --> 00:18:33,325 Speaker 3: by the way. 395 00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:35,165 Speaker 1: Is a very very sad double legosy. 396 00:18:35,685 --> 00:18:39,885 Speaker 3: Overall, this has a misplaced pride that's so pure and joyous. 397 00:18:39,965 --> 00:18:40,525 Speaker 4: I think this is. 398 00:18:40,445 --> 00:18:43,405 Speaker 3: Why Tim Burton wanted to make the movie with Johnny 399 00:18:43,445 --> 00:18:46,885 Speaker 3: Depp Edwood, because that's What it captures is that love 400 00:18:47,085 --> 00:18:48,925 Speaker 3: of making a movie, no matter what the movie is, 401 00:18:49,005 --> 00:18:50,525 Speaker 3: you can really feel that when. 402 00:18:50,365 --> 00:18:52,245 Speaker 1: You're watching Plan nine from Outer Space. 403 00:18:52,685 --> 00:18:54,645 Speaker 3: Now, as for the aliens, I don't think I can 404 00:18:54,725 --> 00:18:57,365 Speaker 3: do any better than describing them the way the movie does, 405 00:18:57,405 --> 00:19:01,045 Speaker 3: which as grave robbers from space. For reasons that are 406 00:19:01,085 --> 00:19:05,085 Speaker 3: never quite clear, these aliens are reanimating the bodies of 407 00:19:05,125 --> 00:19:07,765 Speaker 3: the recently dead. So this is where the mixture of 408 00:19:07,765 --> 00:19:10,565 Speaker 3: sci fi and horror that I mentioned earlier comes in. Now, 409 00:19:10,605 --> 00:19:13,165 Speaker 3: to be fair, there's sort of an eerie visual poetry 410 00:19:13,205 --> 00:19:16,645 Speaker 3: to the performances by Tor Johnson and Vampira as two 411 00:19:16,685 --> 00:19:20,685 Speaker 3: of the zombies. Johnson's resurrection scene is it's pretty iconic 412 00:19:20,725 --> 00:19:22,605 Speaker 3: that's worth checking out alone. 413 00:19:22,965 --> 00:19:24,205 Speaker 4: But the actual. 414 00:19:23,925 --> 00:19:27,525 Speaker 3: Aliens, they look like normal people and they're played by 415 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:31,485 Speaker 3: Dudley Manlove and Joanna Lee with this odd sort of calmness. 416 00:19:31,565 --> 00:19:34,165 Speaker 3: It's like they're hosting a PBS pledge or something, not 417 00:19:34,205 --> 00:19:36,925 Speaker 3: trying to take over the world. Their leader, however, is 418 00:19:36,965 --> 00:19:40,565 Speaker 3: played by the oddly theatrical John Breckenridge. And another great 419 00:19:40,565 --> 00:19:43,085 Speaker 3: detail is that for some reason he sports a medieval 420 00:19:43,165 --> 00:19:45,565 Speaker 3: tunic and it even has an emblem of an axe. 421 00:19:45,605 --> 00:19:48,205 Speaker 3: On it, even though he's like from some futuristic planets. 422 00:19:48,245 --> 00:19:50,005 Speaker 3: So I could go on and on about the awful 423 00:19:50,045 --> 00:19:52,685 Speaker 3: delights of a plan nine from outer space, but I'll 424 00:19:52,685 --> 00:19:54,645 Speaker 3: save that for people to discover. It really is one 425 00:19:54,685 --> 00:19:56,485 Speaker 3: of those terrible movies that's worth a watch. 426 00:19:56,765 --> 00:19:58,605 Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to see it still, I've only seen 427 00:19:58,605 --> 00:20:00,845 Speaker 4: it as it's being shot in the Tim Burton movie 428 00:20:00,965 --> 00:20:02,885 Speaker 4: ed Wood. You're listening to Film Spotting. 429 00:20:02,925 --> 00:20:06,165 Speaker 2: We're sharing our top five things from space that came 430 00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:10,005 Speaker 2: to destroy us, inspired by the new film starring Scarlett Johansson, 431 00:20:10,165 --> 00:20:12,845 Speaker 2: Under the Skin. For my number three, I'm definitely picking 432 00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:15,685 Speaker 2: the movie here versus the Alien, because this is an 433 00:20:15,725 --> 00:20:20,325 Speaker 2: alien we never see and it's the deadly micro organism 434 00:20:20,405 --> 00:20:24,565 Speaker 2: from and Drama to Strain, the nineteen seventy one Robert 435 00:20:24,605 --> 00:20:28,605 Speaker 2: Wise directed film from the Michael Crichton novel, and basically 436 00:20:28,965 --> 00:20:33,085 Speaker 2: it's the story of a small New Mexico town. A 437 00:20:33,165 --> 00:20:38,365 Speaker 2: satellite crashes there and all the inhabitants mysteriously die. So 438 00:20:38,405 --> 00:20:41,565 Speaker 2: the government sends in this scientific team to try to 439 00:20:41,565 --> 00:20:43,525 Speaker 2: figure out what's going on. And I went back and 440 00:20:43,525 --> 00:20:45,605 Speaker 2: looked at my notes for this movie, Josh, because this 441 00:20:45,885 --> 00:20:48,845 Speaker 2: was one of the early films in a seventy sci 442 00:20:48,845 --> 00:20:51,485 Speaker 2: fi marathon we did here on film spotting four or 443 00:20:51,485 --> 00:20:53,285 Speaker 2: five years ago, I think. And the things that stood 444 00:20:53,285 --> 00:20:55,445 Speaker 2: out for me about this movie is that the whole 445 00:20:55,445 --> 00:20:59,445 Speaker 2: film really is about the science. It's showing us every 446 00:20:59,565 --> 00:21:02,085 Speaker 2: single step of this process trying to figure out what 447 00:21:02,165 --> 00:21:06,485 Speaker 2: this strain is. Almost as if the filmmaker was out 448 00:21:06,525 --> 00:21:09,925 Speaker 2: to make a case for the embrace of science, because 449 00:21:09,925 --> 00:21:12,445 Speaker 2: that is all it's really interested in this kind of 450 00:21:12,485 --> 00:21:14,925 Speaker 2: technology and coming up with these solutions. 451 00:21:14,965 --> 00:21:17,245 Speaker 4: And so many of the movies that have followed. 452 00:21:16,965 --> 00:21:19,965 Speaker 2: And probably even preceded it, where they're these virus movies, right, 453 00:21:20,005 --> 00:21:21,965 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of action because they're trying to 454 00:21:22,045 --> 00:21:25,565 Speaker 2: keep the zombies at bay or whatever they're trying to do, 455 00:21:25,645 --> 00:21:27,965 Speaker 2: while the scientists are off in a room somewhere working 456 00:21:28,005 --> 00:21:28,485 Speaker 2: on a cure. 457 00:21:28,565 --> 00:21:30,045 Speaker 4: Here it's all the cure. 458 00:21:30,245 --> 00:21:33,365 Speaker 2: That's the whole movie, is just them being locked away. 459 00:21:33,405 --> 00:21:35,205 Speaker 5: Well, you don't turn off the oxygen, put them on 460 00:21:35,205 --> 00:21:38,925 Speaker 5: a room, man, No, there, stick with Andramata, experiment with 461 00:21:38,965 --> 00:21:39,485 Speaker 5: your own eye. 462 00:21:39,525 --> 00:21:43,965 Speaker 4: Dammit, Andromeda will spread everyone. We'll never be ready with it. 463 00:21:45,445 --> 00:21:47,885 Speaker 3: There are now five minutes self destruct. 464 00:21:49,365 --> 00:21:51,445 Speaker 2: It's the science part and I think that is pretty interesting. 465 00:21:51,485 --> 00:21:53,885 Speaker 2: You also get into the paranoia and fear of the 466 00:21:53,885 --> 00:21:57,365 Speaker 2: government stuff that inhabits so many of these types of 467 00:21:57,405 --> 00:22:00,445 Speaker 2: alien invasion movies. The fact that the scientists all pretty 468 00:22:00,485 --> 00:22:03,645 Speaker 2: much operate under the idea that the military probably created 469 00:22:03,645 --> 00:22:06,325 Speaker 2: the strain themselves and is just trying to harness it 470 00:22:06,365 --> 00:22:09,005 Speaker 2: as a weapon. Another, as I said, very common thing, 471 00:22:09,045 --> 00:22:11,885 Speaker 2: not only for these movies, but especially seventies sci fi movies. 472 00:22:11,925 --> 00:22:14,005 Speaker 2: So I like The Andromeda Strain. I think for a 473 00:22:14,045 --> 00:22:16,725 Speaker 2: lot of people, it's probably a pretty slow film and 474 00:22:16,765 --> 00:22:18,605 Speaker 2: they kind of want a little more of that action 475 00:22:18,765 --> 00:22:20,965 Speaker 2: and crackle. But I like the fact that it respects 476 00:22:21,285 --> 00:22:23,005 Speaker 2: that it's really about science. 477 00:22:23,125 --> 00:22:25,285 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember it being slow, It's been a long 478 00:22:25,325 --> 00:22:28,445 Speaker 3: time since I've seen it. But yet that paranoia really 479 00:22:28,485 --> 00:22:30,885 Speaker 3: does seep in despite the focus on the science and 480 00:22:30,925 --> 00:22:32,965 Speaker 3: the procedure and that sort of thing. All right, my 481 00:22:33,085 --> 00:22:36,605 Speaker 3: number two how deep does my Tim Burton love go 482 00:22:36,645 --> 00:22:37,005 Speaker 3: at them? 483 00:22:37,005 --> 00:22:37,565 Speaker 4: Wow? Yes? 484 00:22:38,005 --> 00:22:41,325 Speaker 3: Yes, deep enough that my number two is Mars Attacks. 485 00:22:42,165 --> 00:22:43,965 Speaker 3: I think I may be the only person who does 486 00:22:44,085 --> 00:22:46,525 Speaker 3: like this movie. But one reason Tim Burton doesn't even 487 00:22:46,565 --> 00:22:47,245 Speaker 3: like Mars Attacks. 488 00:22:47,285 --> 00:22:49,165 Speaker 4: I'm sure that's no. I think he does. 489 00:22:49,365 --> 00:22:52,605 Speaker 3: I think that's one of the reasons why the performance 490 00:22:52,685 --> 00:22:54,325 Speaker 3: is not all of them, but the majority of them 491 00:22:54,325 --> 00:22:56,685 Speaker 3: are pretty bad and out of control, because I think 492 00:22:56,725 --> 00:22:59,125 Speaker 3: he was having such a blast with the aliens, so 493 00:22:59,405 --> 00:23:02,445 Speaker 3: I'm focusing on the aliens, though I like this movie overall. 494 00:23:02,525 --> 00:23:04,765 Speaker 3: For this pick, it is his spoof of the War 495 00:23:04,805 --> 00:23:06,925 Speaker 3: of the World's Plann nine from outer space and their 496 00:23:06,925 --> 00:23:11,605 Speaker 3: ilk and the Aliens are these computer generated creatures who 497 00:23:11,725 --> 00:23:13,685 Speaker 3: they're little green men, but they seem to be more 498 00:23:13,765 --> 00:23:16,965 Speaker 3: modeled on the Gremlins more than anything else. They're mischievous, 499 00:23:16,965 --> 00:23:19,605 Speaker 3: they toy with humans. There's just that great throwaway shot 500 00:23:19,645 --> 00:23:22,845 Speaker 3: where they're flying Saw is trying to tilt the Washington 501 00:23:22,925 --> 00:23:25,165 Speaker 3: Monument after the boy Scout troop to make sure it 502 00:23:25,245 --> 00:23:28,285 Speaker 3: lands on him. There's also the scene, you know, the 503 00:23:28,285 --> 00:23:30,565 Speaker 3: classic we come in p scene, except here a hippie 504 00:23:30,605 --> 00:23:32,085 Speaker 3: unwisely let's loose a dove. 505 00:23:32,525 --> 00:23:33,845 Speaker 1: That doesn't last very long. 506 00:23:34,045 --> 00:23:37,085 Speaker 3: Burton and his animators they gave these aliens a really 507 00:23:37,125 --> 00:23:41,245 Speaker 3: great aesthetic too, that's drawn largely from the trading cards 508 00:23:41,245 --> 00:23:42,484 Speaker 3: that inspired the movie. 509 00:23:42,605 --> 00:23:43,485 Speaker 4: I love the touch that. 510 00:23:43,445 --> 00:23:45,925 Speaker 3: The aliens are wearing these these kind of glass helmets 511 00:23:45,965 --> 00:23:48,565 Speaker 3: like they're in a cheesy ninety fifties TV show with 512 00:23:48,645 --> 00:23:50,805 Speaker 3: astronauts or something, And of course the sound of their 513 00:23:50,845 --> 00:23:53,725 Speaker 3: guns is a nice audio nod to those lasers from 514 00:23:53,965 --> 00:23:55,845 Speaker 3: the War of the World. So the humor is very 515 00:23:55,845 --> 00:23:59,405 Speaker 3: broad here, yes, and many of the performances are pretty bad. 516 00:23:59,445 --> 00:24:03,005 Speaker 3: I like Jack Nicholson's President. I'm not so wild about 517 00:24:03,125 --> 00:24:06,085 Speaker 3: the real estate developer he plays in the dual role. 518 00:24:06,165 --> 00:24:08,205 Speaker 3: But I just think Burton was having such a good 519 00:24:08,245 --> 00:24:11,405 Speaker 3: time with those aliens that he wasn't even paying attention 520 00:24:11,445 --> 00:24:12,405 Speaker 3: to what else was going on. 521 00:24:12,565 --> 00:24:13,245 Speaker 1: Pays off for me. 522 00:24:13,405 --> 00:24:15,285 Speaker 2: Well, we go from your number two pick a movie 523 00:24:15,325 --> 00:24:17,805 Speaker 2: nobody likes but you to my number two pick a 524 00:24:17,845 --> 00:24:22,125 Speaker 2: movie everybody likes but you. No, No, I've got three words, 525 00:24:22,605 --> 00:24:29,485 Speaker 2: Norris Spiderhead. It is the Thing from John Carpenter's The Thing. Yes, 526 00:24:29,645 --> 00:24:34,245 Speaker 2: another eighties movie. And what I like about this movie mainly, Josh, 527 00:24:34,325 --> 00:24:35,965 Speaker 2: even though I know your take on it is you 528 00:24:36,005 --> 00:24:37,765 Speaker 2: see it as just a lot of splatter and a 529 00:24:37,765 --> 00:24:39,405 Speaker 2: lot of gore for the sake of gore, and special 530 00:24:39,445 --> 00:24:41,045 Speaker 2: effects for the sake of special effects. 531 00:24:41,125 --> 00:24:41,925 Speaker 4: But I like the fact. 532 00:24:42,005 --> 00:24:44,445 Speaker 2: What has always appealed to be about the film is 533 00:24:44,485 --> 00:24:48,445 Speaker 2: the fact that it uses this crazy parasitic life form 534 00:24:48,765 --> 00:24:51,805 Speaker 2: that seems to be able to assimilate any organism it 535 00:24:51,845 --> 00:24:55,325 Speaker 2: comes into contact with, and it uses that to explore 536 00:24:55,685 --> 00:24:57,125 Speaker 2: power and group dynamics. 537 00:24:57,125 --> 00:24:58,605 Speaker 4: That really is what the film is about. 538 00:24:58,645 --> 00:25:01,405 Speaker 2: So the enemy isn't so much the thing which we 539 00:25:01,445 --> 00:25:03,765 Speaker 2: see in a lot of monster movies. The enemy really 540 00:25:03,805 --> 00:25:06,805 Speaker 2: becomes the other people in the room, the other people 541 00:25:06,885 --> 00:25:09,525 Speaker 2: at this station. And of course it does feature one 542 00:25:09,565 --> 00:25:14,005 Speaker 2: of those great Growley eighties Kurt Russell performances as MacCready 543 00:25:14,085 --> 00:25:16,525 Speaker 2: that I really do enjoy. But for me this was 544 00:25:16,565 --> 00:25:21,365 Speaker 2: almost my number one because it's both this grotesque thing, 545 00:25:21,485 --> 00:25:24,285 Speaker 2: this bizarre life form that makes your skin crawl just 546 00:25:24,405 --> 00:25:26,245 Speaker 2: to see it on screen, and all of its different 547 00:25:26,245 --> 00:25:29,165 Speaker 2: incarnations the effects of course famously by Rob Botten, but 548 00:25:29,205 --> 00:25:31,765 Speaker 2: it also makes it such an interesting character, if you will, 549 00:25:31,845 --> 00:25:36,045 Speaker 2: this thing is that it's also us. It's like an 550 00:25:36,085 --> 00:25:38,645 Speaker 2: alien movie such as Invasion of the Body Snatchers, right 551 00:25:38,685 --> 00:25:41,285 Speaker 2: where the real horror comes from the fact that the 552 00:25:41,725 --> 00:25:45,165 Speaker 2: other creature is really us. It's the neighbor, it's your husband, 553 00:25:45,245 --> 00:25:47,765 Speaker 2: it's your wife, whatever it might be. And we see 554 00:25:47,805 --> 00:25:50,205 Speaker 2: that in as I said, the way this creature assimilates 555 00:25:50,245 --> 00:25:53,125 Speaker 2: and becomes other people. So really, for me, the suspense 556 00:25:53,165 --> 00:25:56,925 Speaker 2: of the thing, the real horror of it, goes beyond 557 00:25:57,325 --> 00:26:00,765 Speaker 2: just the obvious gore and it really becomes the senses. 558 00:26:00,845 --> 00:26:03,085 Speaker 2: The movie goes on that, Okay, what happens if this 559 00:26:03,125 --> 00:26:05,685 Speaker 2: thing does get out of this station? 560 00:26:06,205 --> 00:26:07,325 Speaker 4: Is it ever going to be stopped? 561 00:26:07,405 --> 00:26:10,725 Speaker 2: This one little creature could in fact, somehow assimilate all 562 00:26:10,845 --> 00:26:14,765 Speaker 2: of humanity potentially, And that was fascinating enough to me 563 00:26:14,805 --> 00:26:16,725 Speaker 2: at the time I saw it, which actually wasn't until 564 00:26:16,765 --> 00:26:18,405 Speaker 2: probably later in the eighties. I don't think it's a 565 00:26:18,445 --> 00:26:19,845 Speaker 2: movie I saw as a kid. If I saw it 566 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:22,125 Speaker 2: when it came out, I been able to sleep alone 567 00:26:22,165 --> 00:26:24,285 Speaker 2: for probably weeks or a month, So it was later 568 00:26:24,325 --> 00:26:26,765 Speaker 2: when I caught up with it, and even more recently 569 00:26:26,765 --> 00:26:27,405 Speaker 2: when I've seen it. 570 00:26:27,485 --> 00:26:28,565 Speaker 4: You know the effects. 571 00:26:28,605 --> 00:26:30,645 Speaker 2: Yes, I've said it and gotten chastised for it here 572 00:26:30,645 --> 00:26:32,205 Speaker 2: on the show for saying that the effects are a 573 00:26:32,245 --> 00:26:32,965 Speaker 2: little bit dated. 574 00:26:33,045 --> 00:26:35,965 Speaker 4: They are, but it doesn't ruin the experience of the 575 00:26:35,965 --> 00:26:36,645 Speaker 4: film for me at all. 576 00:26:36,965 --> 00:26:40,205 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I have I have a John Carpenter problem, 577 00:26:40,245 --> 00:26:42,285 Speaker 3: and I think I need to sit through I need 578 00:26:42,285 --> 00:26:45,485 Speaker 3: to listen to a John Carpenter marathon that someone else 579 00:26:45,965 --> 00:26:50,845 Speaker 3: conducts because I undervalue a lot of his movies about 580 00:26:50,845 --> 00:26:54,685 Speaker 3: how one I really dislike, Hello, I love and it's 581 00:26:54,805 --> 00:26:57,485 Speaker 3: very basic stuff that often with his films. It's a 582 00:26:57,605 --> 00:26:59,805 Speaker 3: staging and halloween for a suspense film that I just 583 00:26:59,805 --> 00:27:03,365 Speaker 3: can't get past. Assault on Precinct thirteen is probably the one, 584 00:27:03,365 --> 00:27:04,805 Speaker 3: and I haven't seen all of his, so that's why 585 00:27:04,885 --> 00:27:05,405 Speaker 3: did you need that? 586 00:27:05,445 --> 00:27:05,845 Speaker 1: Marathon? 587 00:27:06,005 --> 00:27:09,245 Speaker 3: Probably the one I like the best, so Carpenter, Yeah, 588 00:27:09,365 --> 00:27:10,485 Speaker 3: I'm off and alone on him. 589 00:27:10,645 --> 00:27:12,045 Speaker 4: Okay, you're number one, josh. 590 00:27:12,085 --> 00:27:14,325 Speaker 3: My Number one is a movie that I just caught 591 00:27:14,405 --> 00:27:17,365 Speaker 3: up with, Attacked the Block. It's from twenty eleven, a 592 00:27:17,365 --> 00:27:20,125 Speaker 3: British sci fi comedy about an alien invasion of a 593 00:27:20,165 --> 00:27:23,765 Speaker 3: South London neighborhood. This time, though, it's not the military 594 00:27:23,805 --> 00:27:25,885 Speaker 3: that the aliens run up against, but a gang of 595 00:27:25,925 --> 00:27:27,565 Speaker 3: wanna be teen thugs. 596 00:27:29,805 --> 00:27:33,125 Speaker 2: Why is the alien from Believe it land in the 597 00:27:33,165 --> 00:27:33,605 Speaker 2: wrong place? 598 00:27:33,645 --> 00:27:37,645 Speaker 4: Do you get me the wrong place? I'm killing them, 599 00:27:37,685 --> 00:27:38,285 Speaker 4: I'm killing them. 600 00:27:38,725 --> 00:27:39,165 Speaker 2: Let's get to. 601 00:27:40,725 --> 00:27:44,645 Speaker 3: The social satire in this thing. It's handled just about perfectly. 602 00:27:44,765 --> 00:27:47,805 Speaker 3: I think the movie essentially poses this tongue in cheek question, 603 00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:52,045 Speaker 3: what's scarier, hostile alien invaders or black youth, and then 604 00:27:52,045 --> 00:27:54,045 Speaker 3: it riffs for the rest of the movie on the 605 00:27:54,045 --> 00:27:56,485 Speaker 3: sad reality that many people are going. 606 00:27:56,285 --> 00:27:57,565 Speaker 4: To say the latter. 607 00:27:57,965 --> 00:27:59,885 Speaker 3: Now, as for those aliens. 608 00:27:59,365 --> 00:28:00,205 Speaker 4: They're pretty cool. 609 00:28:00,325 --> 00:28:04,125 Speaker 3: They're described as guerrilla wolves, I think, and that does 610 00:28:04,165 --> 00:28:07,165 Speaker 3: seem to fit. They have spiky black fur, no eyes, 611 00:28:07,525 --> 00:28:10,205 Speaker 3: but their teeth and their jaws glow in the dark, 612 00:28:10,245 --> 00:28:12,925 Speaker 3: and it comes across pretty impressively considering this wasn't a 613 00:28:13,005 --> 00:28:17,405 Speaker 3: hugely budgeted film. It also has some smart action scenes 614 00:28:17,445 --> 00:28:20,525 Speaker 3: staged by director Joe Cornish, a lot of sly humor 615 00:28:20,565 --> 00:28:22,885 Speaker 3: in it, a great hip hop soundtrack, and even to 616 00:28:22,925 --> 00:28:24,885 Speaker 3: my surprise and delight, I didn't know this going in, 617 00:28:24,925 --> 00:28:28,045 Speaker 3: but a small part for a very funny Nick frost. 618 00:28:28,245 --> 00:28:31,685 Speaker 4: On you discovered a species. Give it's two unknown to science. 619 00:28:32,445 --> 00:28:35,405 Speaker 2: Maybe there was a party of the zoo and a 620 00:28:35,565 --> 00:28:37,045 Speaker 2: monkey shag to fish. 621 00:28:37,125 --> 00:28:39,485 Speaker 3: So I'd only heard good things about this since it 622 00:28:39,525 --> 00:28:41,725 Speaker 3: came out. I don't know why I never got around 623 00:28:41,765 --> 00:28:43,325 Speaker 3: to it, but I was glad I did finally see it. 624 00:28:43,365 --> 00:28:45,165 Speaker 3: I mean, it easily would have been one of my 625 00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:47,365 Speaker 3: top ten films of twenty eleven. If I've really seen it, 626 00:28:47,365 --> 00:28:48,205 Speaker 3: then oh yeah. 627 00:28:48,005 --> 00:28:50,285 Speaker 2: Well, Attack the Block is a movie I enjoy as well. 628 00:28:50,405 --> 00:28:53,205 Speaker 2: It's an honorable mention for me on this list my 629 00:28:53,325 --> 00:28:55,885 Speaker 2: number one thing from space that came to destroy us. Josh, 630 00:28:55,925 --> 00:28:59,445 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pick at that. John Carpenter scalp oh Man, 631 00:28:59,485 --> 00:29:01,685 Speaker 2: I should have called this the John Carpenter Memorial List, 632 00:29:01,685 --> 00:29:04,245 Speaker 2: but then I wouldn't have had any tape, so I 633 00:29:04,285 --> 00:29:06,805 Speaker 2: would have been in big trouble. But for me, it 634 00:29:07,045 --> 00:29:09,285 Speaker 2: is the humanoid aliens from They Live. 635 00:29:09,365 --> 00:29:10,685 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one I haven't seen any of there. 636 00:29:10,885 --> 00:29:12,365 Speaker 4: It's really good. It's really good. 637 00:29:12,365 --> 00:29:14,565 Speaker 2: It's come up on the show once or twice before. 638 00:29:14,725 --> 00:29:16,765 Speaker 2: But this is that case I was kind of talking 639 00:29:16,805 --> 00:29:19,245 Speaker 2: about with the Thing, where you have the fear of 640 00:29:19,245 --> 00:29:22,005 Speaker 2: this gross creature, but you also have the fear of 641 00:29:22,525 --> 00:29:25,565 Speaker 2: this thing walking among us and not being able to 642 00:29:25,605 --> 00:29:27,405 Speaker 2: detect it. And that's what this whole film is about, 643 00:29:27,605 --> 00:29:30,405 Speaker 2: is that these aliens are living among us and nobody 644 00:29:30,405 --> 00:29:32,685 Speaker 2: can see them except, as it turns out, with these 645 00:29:32,725 --> 00:29:36,005 Speaker 2: special glasses that the main character played by Rowdy Roddy 646 00:29:36,045 --> 00:29:39,165 Speaker 2: Piper gets his hands on. And you can't watch this 647 00:29:39,245 --> 00:29:41,325 Speaker 2: movie and not recognize that it was a big influence 648 00:29:41,325 --> 00:29:44,045 Speaker 2: on the world's end. One of my favorite films from 649 00:29:44,085 --> 00:29:48,005 Speaker 2: last year. But these aliens, they're using the earth basically 650 00:29:48,085 --> 00:29:50,725 Speaker 2: just as a resource to deplete. They're going to leave 651 00:29:50,765 --> 00:29:53,645 Speaker 2: it in ruins basically someday, as we come to learn. 652 00:29:53,805 --> 00:29:55,965 Speaker 2: But with these glasses on, we see how all the 653 00:29:56,005 --> 00:29:59,285 Speaker 2: media is filled with subliminal messaging to obey and conform 654 00:29:59,365 --> 00:30:02,365 Speaker 2: and marry and reproduce and consume. And that is fun 655 00:30:02,485 --> 00:30:04,725 Speaker 2: enough as a satire. But where the movie gets really 656 00:30:04,725 --> 00:30:08,245 Speaker 2: interesting for me, Josh is where we see the bargain. 657 00:30:08,565 --> 00:30:11,005 Speaker 2: The humans in the movie have struck with them, some 658 00:30:11,085 --> 00:30:13,445 Speaker 2: of the humans have struck with them. The satire gets 659 00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:16,485 Speaker 2: taken to another level when you recognize that basically the 660 00:30:16,525 --> 00:30:19,965 Speaker 2: wealthy people, the rich, the one percent. They're the one 661 00:30:20,005 --> 00:30:24,045 Speaker 2: percent because willing to sacrifice the long term health of 662 00:30:24,085 --> 00:30:27,845 Speaker 2: the planet and everyone else around them for their piece 663 00:30:27,885 --> 00:30:31,205 Speaker 2: of the American dream, for whatever they think they're entitled to. 664 00:30:31,285 --> 00:30:32,925 Speaker 2: And like a lot of good sci fi, the whole 665 00:30:32,965 --> 00:30:36,605 Speaker 2: movie is just sort of absurd and exaggerated enough and 666 00:30:36,685 --> 00:30:39,405 Speaker 2: heightened enough to feel like it both could never happen 667 00:30:39,645 --> 00:30:41,645 Speaker 2: and maybe already has happened. And I like too that 668 00:30:41,685 --> 00:30:44,205 Speaker 2: the aliens in this movie, they're not really creatures so 669 00:30:44,285 --> 00:30:46,805 Speaker 2: much as when you see them, they're skeletons. 670 00:30:47,085 --> 00:30:48,485 Speaker 4: They look human. 671 00:30:48,685 --> 00:30:51,445 Speaker 2: They look like humans would look if you stripped away 672 00:30:51,765 --> 00:30:54,525 Speaker 2: our skin and revealed what's underneath. And I don't know 673 00:30:54,525 --> 00:30:56,285 Speaker 2: if Carpenter was going for this or not, but maybe 674 00:30:56,285 --> 00:30:59,685 Speaker 2: that is what's underneath, is these creatures when you strip 675 00:30:59,765 --> 00:31:01,525 Speaker 2: that away. That may be part of the commentary, but 676 00:31:01,925 --> 00:31:04,525 Speaker 2: I do like they live part of the new cult 677 00:31:04,565 --> 00:31:07,485 Speaker 2: cannon according to our friend Scott Tobias. Reference here for 678 00:31:07,565 --> 00:31:10,605 Speaker 2: the second time I've name dropped Scott Tobias from the Dissolve. 679 00:31:10,645 --> 00:31:12,725 Speaker 2: Will link to his discussion of they live in the 680 00:31:12,725 --> 00:31:14,325 Speaker 2: show notes over filmspotting dot Net. 681 00:31:14,365 --> 00:31:17,165 Speaker 3: Can we just pause here to acknowledge that your list 682 00:31:17,205 --> 00:31:20,205 Speaker 3: has included both Jesse Ventura and Rowdy Roddy Piper. 683 00:31:21,365 --> 00:31:24,405 Speaker 4: I love wrestling. What can I say learn? 684 00:31:24,445 --> 00:31:25,565 Speaker 1: Need something new about you? 685 00:31:26,485 --> 00:31:28,485 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where we go from there. Those 686 00:31:28,485 --> 00:31:30,965 Speaker 2: are our top five things for space that came to 687 00:31:31,005 --> 00:31:31,445 Speaker 2: destroy us. 688 00:31:31,485 --> 00:31:32,325 Speaker 4: Any honorable mentions? 689 00:31:32,365 --> 00:31:34,805 Speaker 1: Josh, Yeah, I did think about the world's end as well. 690 00:31:34,845 --> 00:31:35,445 Speaker 4: From last year. 691 00:31:35,445 --> 00:31:37,885 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that Gort from the Day the Earth 692 00:31:37,885 --> 00:31:40,245 Speaker 3: Stood still mentioned in our show. Open had to consider 693 00:31:40,325 --> 00:31:43,965 Speaker 3: Gort monsters versus Aliens is a fun DreamWorks animated for 694 00:31:44,045 --> 00:31:45,285 Speaker 3: I thought about that in two thousand and nine. 695 00:31:45,325 --> 00:31:46,845 Speaker 4: Did you like that? I did. I like that movie. 696 00:31:46,885 --> 00:31:49,205 Speaker 2: And that villain voiced by Rain Wilson who wants to 697 00:31:49,205 --> 00:31:51,365 Speaker 2: destroy the planet or take over the planet, is a 698 00:31:51,365 --> 00:31:52,165 Speaker 2: really good character. 699 00:31:52,205 --> 00:31:54,605 Speaker 3: Yeah, they riff on sci fi tropes, have a lot 700 00:31:54,645 --> 00:31:56,845 Speaker 3: of fun with that Independence Day. I'm going to admit 701 00:31:57,005 --> 00:31:59,845 Speaker 3: it has its moments. I mean it's a little scary 702 00:31:59,925 --> 00:32:00,925 Speaker 3: patriotic too. 703 00:32:01,045 --> 00:32:02,685 Speaker 4: I've never been by hand of that movie. 704 00:32:02,685 --> 00:32:05,005 Speaker 3: Really, it has enough moments for me, and we do 705 00:32:05,085 --> 00:32:06,845 Speaker 3: have to give a nod at least to Marvin the 706 00:32:06,885 --> 00:32:10,405 Speaker 3: Martian from the Looney Tunes shorts. The one movie that 707 00:32:10,525 --> 00:32:12,405 Speaker 3: I did catch up with hedn't seen before was really 708 00:32:12,405 --> 00:32:13,925 Speaker 3: excited but disappointing me. 709 00:32:13,925 --> 00:32:14,765 Speaker 1: It was Monsters. 710 00:32:15,005 --> 00:32:17,805 Speaker 3: This is a low budget thriller from twenty ten about 711 00:32:17,805 --> 00:32:19,885 Speaker 3: an alien infestation in Mexico. 712 00:32:20,045 --> 00:32:22,445 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a movie I caught up with as well, 713 00:32:23,085 --> 00:32:24,885 Speaker 2: just for this list and really hoped it would make 714 00:32:24,925 --> 00:32:27,845 Speaker 2: my top five. And after maybe all the hype because 715 00:32:27,845 --> 00:32:29,565 Speaker 2: there was a fair amount of it in kind of 716 00:32:29,565 --> 00:32:33,005 Speaker 2: sinophile circles, which I get. After seeing the movie, I 717 00:32:33,165 --> 00:32:35,925 Speaker 2: get it completely and I actually am really curious to 718 00:32:35,925 --> 00:32:37,885 Speaker 2: see what that director, Gareth Edwards is going to do 719 00:32:38,205 --> 00:32:40,325 Speaker 2: with Godzilla, which I never thought I would say that, 720 00:32:40,325 --> 00:32:42,325 Speaker 2: but if seeing Monsters, I'm curious. That said, as a 721 00:32:42,365 --> 00:32:45,605 Speaker 2: movie overall, it did fall short for me in a 722 00:32:46,885 --> 00:32:50,205 Speaker 2: certainly the potential as a filmmaker is there. I still 723 00:32:50,245 --> 00:32:52,565 Speaker 2: considered the creatures from that movie, just because there's kind 724 00:32:52,565 --> 00:32:54,845 Speaker 2: of a saving gray scene with those creatures near the 725 00:32:54,885 --> 00:32:56,645 Speaker 2: end of the film that I thought was really pretty great. 726 00:32:56,765 --> 00:32:59,565 Speaker 4: So I did consider those creatures. I considered those. 727 00:32:59,685 --> 00:33:02,485 Speaker 2: Dog Wolve whatever they are from Attack the Block, and 728 00:33:02,885 --> 00:33:05,245 Speaker 2: we also had a reference to Galaxy Quests earlier in 729 00:33:05,245 --> 00:33:08,285 Speaker 2: the film General Sarahs from that movie. I didn't consider 730 00:33:08,285 --> 00:33:10,685 Speaker 2: the World's End because I was thinking about this and 731 00:33:10,725 --> 00:33:13,165 Speaker 2: I couldn't really remember if they actually came here to 732 00:33:13,205 --> 00:33:14,005 Speaker 2: destroy us or not. 733 00:33:14,045 --> 00:33:16,885 Speaker 4: I couldn't remember what their intentions were. And I know 734 00:33:16,925 --> 00:33:17,165 Speaker 4: a lot of. 735 00:33:17,125 --> 00:33:20,125 Speaker 2: People are gonna say, Adam Pacific rim, you love that movie, 736 00:33:20,165 --> 00:33:20,725 Speaker 2: what about them? 737 00:33:20,765 --> 00:33:21,805 Speaker 4: Well, they didn't come from. 738 00:33:21,725 --> 00:33:24,845 Speaker 2: Space, another dimension that didn't work. Come on, so the 739 00:33:24,925 --> 00:33:29,165 Speaker 2: Kaiju they're off. And I also didn't consider Starship Troopers. 740 00:33:29,245 --> 00:33:32,925 Speaker 2: And I know some people will probably be shouting Starship Troopers, 741 00:33:32,965 --> 00:33:35,245 Speaker 2: So this entire top five. I really like that movie, 742 00:33:35,285 --> 00:33:37,725 Speaker 2: but my recollection of the film could be wrong. My 743 00:33:37,805 --> 00:33:41,045 Speaker 2: recollection is they don't attack the Earth, the bugs don't 744 00:33:41,045 --> 00:33:42,925 Speaker 2: attack us. We they go out of the bugs, we 745 00:33:42,965 --> 00:33:43,965 Speaker 2: go to their planet. 746 00:33:44,085 --> 00:33:45,165 Speaker 4: So again that's right. 747 00:33:45,165 --> 00:33:48,565 Speaker 2: Technicalities that they matter here for these arbitrary important to 748 00:33:48,565 --> 00:33:49,485 Speaker 2: be spotting lists. 749 00:33:49,565 --> 00:33:50,525 Speaker 4: We want to know what you think. 750 00:33:50,565 --> 00:33:52,445 Speaker 2: Send us your picks or any other comments about the 751 00:33:52,445 --> 00:33:54,485 Speaker 2: show to feedback at filmspotting dot net. 752 00:33:54,925 --> 00:33:59,925 Speaker 5: In every age, there is a cause worth fighting for. 753 00:34:02,885 --> 00:34:07,125 Speaker 5: But in the future, the greatest threat to our survival 754 00:34:07,725 --> 00:34:08,364 Speaker 5: will not be. 755 00:34:08,565 --> 00:34:13,605 Speaker 2: Man at all. You gotta live any top five that 756 00:34:13,965 --> 00:34:17,485 Speaker 2: has parentheses after it and takes that a long time 757 00:34:17,844 --> 00:34:20,565 Speaker 2: to say, you know it's gonna be good. Reminder that 758 00:34:20,645 --> 00:34:22,565 Speaker 2: access to the film Spotting archive is just one of 759 00:34:22,605 --> 00:34:25,365 Speaker 2: the benefits of joining the Film Spotting Family. Bona shows, 760 00:34:25,405 --> 00:34:29,525 Speaker 2: weekly newsletter, early access to events and more. To join, 761 00:34:29,765 --> 00:34:31,605 Speaker 2: we'd love to have you be part of the family 762 00:34:31,685 --> 00:34:33,685 Speaker 2: Film Spotting Family dot com. 763 00:34:33,725 --> 00:34:36,725 Speaker 5: This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. 764 00:34:37,565 --> 00:34:38,045 Speaker 4: Go bye.