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Speaker 1: But today I'm going to talk about somebody that had

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to explore, certainly a rather bizarre case

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Speaker 1: the bodies of three people that were found abandoned along

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Speaker 2: Here's here is the statement. Now, okay, he's arrested on

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Speaker 2: have been placed unpaid administrative leave. As more facts become available,

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Speaker 2: we will act accordingly according to our district's policies. So

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Speaker 2: he's unpaid administrative leave when he's arrested on a multiple

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let me tell you somebody, he's going to

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that dating back on this Joe.

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Speaker 2: January thirteenth, twenty thirteen, the bodies of Sheryl Collquit Thompson,

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Speaker 1: And who, you know, who would think that it would

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Speaker 2: So they would actually start looking at records for Union

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was asking, you know, when trying

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he shot Marvin in the face. Well, you know

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, and so we've got we've got individuals.

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Speaker 2: You get to Jonesboro, and where is Jonesboro in relation

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Speaker 2: It's just again, all this in the Atlanta metro area.

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Speaker 1: It's all in the Atlanta metro area. So Clayton County

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Speaker 2: Caught everyone because this story broke locally, obviously because of Alabama,

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Speaker 2: All right, herman, you stole Dave's lunch money. Again give

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Speaker 2: And you've got all of the people who worked with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have. And this is a multi agency event.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's something to see how how you kind

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Speaker 2: Not a The Union City is not a department. The

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Speaker 2: hey man, we got a whatever's happened is cooled off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be could have been killed in any

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Speaker 1: And there's all these permutations when you begin to think

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Speaker 1: going to be an eyewitness account of somebody that says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we saw them all be placed on you know, that

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Speaker 1: they've been beaten up with a baseball bat or they've

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Speaker 1: been cut or something like that, and they're screaming for

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Speaker 1: their lives and then you've got them on the ground,

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Speaker 1: you know, before you right, and you know, I come

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Speaker 1: back to this, this kind of specter that's involved in

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Speaker 1: all of this an assistant middle school principal. And when

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Speaker 1: you frame it in there and you think that he's

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Speaker 1: lording over this perhaps I don't know, maybe he was

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Speaker 1: just peripheral to it. Maybe he wasn't in charge of

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Speaker 1: what was going on. But how does an assistant principle

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Speaker 1: get themselves into this kind of position a guy that

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Speaker 1: is in, you know, a respected position of authority, who's

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Speaker 1: in charge of children. And to ascend to that kind

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Speaker 1: of level you have to have certain academic credentials as well. Well. Ay,

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Speaker 1: so that's kind of fascinating.

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Speaker 2: You got to figure out that the guy, first of all,

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Speaker 2: the forty five year old assistant principal, was not a

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Speaker 2: forty five year old assistant principal at the time this

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Speaker 2: took place. He was in his early thirties. We don't

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Speaker 2: even know what his background was at that time. Was

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Speaker 2: he working as a teacher, We don't know yet. But

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Speaker 2: let me ask you a couple of quick ones here, Joe,

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Speaker 2: because this is what the actual statement from the Clayton

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Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Office set. It was determined through the investigation

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Speaker 2: that all three victims were tortured and murdered in Clayton

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Speaker 2: County and dumped in Fulton County, but said Colquitt Thompson's

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Speaker 2: body had been stuffed in the trunk. That was the

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Speaker 2: term they used, stuffed in the trunk. King and Katrel

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Speaker 2: were both located inside the vehicle, presumably in the backseat

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Speaker 2: because somebody would have had to have driven. And I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine writing down the road with a dead body

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Speaker 2: next to you. But what do we know about the

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Speaker 2: dead bodies? Fulton County Medical Examiner's Office is saying that

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Speaker 2: King and Control were found dead from asphyxiation in the

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Speaker 2: back seat, and Culquit Thompson, of course, you said, was

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Speaker 2: in the trunk from strangulation. Now is there a difference

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Speaker 2: when they say Culquit Thompson was found dead in the

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Speaker 2: trunk from strangulation and that King and Control were dead

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Speaker 2: from asphyxiation.

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Speaker 1: That's a fascinating point because you're changing your verbiage. You know,

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Speaker 1: why not say why not say strangulation on all three

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Speaker 1: as opposed to two where you're saying asphyxiation and one

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Speaker 1: is a strangulation. Strangulation is very specific when you think

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Speaker 1: about the action of strangulating someone. Are you wrapping your

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Speaker 1: hands around their throat? Are you using a ligature, Have

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Speaker 1: you hung them? Which does happen, And again it goes

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Speaker 1: to torture. Asphyxiation can mean any number of things where

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Speaker 1: you might perhaps smother them in some way, or something

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Speaker 1: that's quite heinous. You have them in a chair and

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Speaker 1: you place a plastic bag over their head, that's an

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Speaker 1: asphixial death. And again we're talking about an element of

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Speaker 1: torture here, Dave, because with torture, I would think that

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Speaker 1: you would kind of tie that back with physical evidence

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Speaker 1: that might be found on the body, evidence that they

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Speaker 1: had been tortured in life. And then this currently brought

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Speaker 1: about their death. But that scene itself will reveal information

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Speaker 1: about what they found in that car. And here's another

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Speaker 1: interesting issue here. Let's just say that none of these

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Speaker 1: individuals had ever been in that car before, none of

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Speaker 1: the three victims. All of a sudden, if we go

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Speaker 1: back to my buddyle Card's supposition about every contact leaves

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Speaker 1: a trace, if you're in that residence at Magnolia, depend

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Speaker 1: upon the surface you're on in there, maybe carpet, whatever

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Speaker 1: the case might be, What do they find on those

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Speaker 1: bodies and within that car that could potentially tie that

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Speaker 1: car in that house together. This remains to be seen.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is body Backs.