Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back.
Speaker 2: We're black, we're brown, and it's John Whish.
Speaker 1: I could see me like when I get the hands going,
Speaker 1: it's giving, it's giving Auntie realness.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I was just gonna say, you are extra
Speaker 3: chocolatey today. I'm seeing like the monochrome lip happening. You're
Speaker 3: kind of blurry, but I feel like you have a
Speaker 3: little bit of bronzer on your eyelid. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I woke up like this. I have not even washed
Speaker 2: my face today.
Speaker 3: This is oh, shut up, I take it back, but
Speaker 3: you look gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I mean, I put a lip on it. I was like,
Speaker 1: did you watch your face today? To be I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what I did not.
Speaker 3: I woke up and I took off my acne patch
Speaker 3: at the last minute, so I was like, they're probably
Speaker 3: going to be able to see it. That's where I'm
Speaker 3: at today. Happy brand and Vision Wednesday. How are you,
Speaker 3: Mandra I am a little frazzled, but I'm doing good.
Speaker 3: I finally finally, well, I don't even know if I
Speaker 3: can say finally. It wasn't like something that I was
Speaker 3: thinking about for a long time, but all of a
Speaker 3: sudden I just had this epiphany last week. It's time
Speaker 3: for an admin. It's time for an assistant.
Speaker 1: And it's not like you're gonna say it's time for
Speaker 1: the percolator.
Speaker 2: You're like, it's not for the time.
Speaker 3: For It's not a percolator, it's alator.
Speaker 2: No, it's the percolator. You're showing your age. You're so young.
Speaker 1: So the original song is time for the percolator. So
Speaker 1: now they change it to the triculator whatever they talk
Speaker 1: now the literally the original song is the percolator, and
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: Some of y'all dances to it right now.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's that slide like you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: do the it's time for the percolate, like side to side.
Speaker 2: And then you got to do your footwork like.
Speaker 3: It's it's the thing you got me just say, okay,
Speaker 3: young blood, let me take you aside and teach you
Speaker 3: something because I.
Speaker 2: Was a percolator and it show.
Speaker 3: This is why you need people of all different you know,
Speaker 3: ages and backgrounds, because look how much more educated I am.
Speaker 1: You know that you will not embarrass yourself at the
Speaker 1: at the next family function.
Speaker 2: I hope not.
Speaker 3: I hope not. Lord, No, I'm a little. I'm a
Speaker 3: little frazzled, but I finally I found a wonderful young
Speaker 3: woman to help me and be my admin, and could
Speaker 3: not have been I'd been at a better time, because
Speaker 3: it seems like everything has been a little whack a
Speaker 3: doodle the past week, starting with the fact that somehow
Speaker 3: I managed to book so I'm going to Atlanta for
Speaker 3: a thing, and I managed to book two flights to Atlanta.
Speaker 3: So one day, two weeks ago, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I finally got details. I'm going to book this flight.
Speaker 3: And then five days went by and I don't know what.
Speaker 3: I just forgot that I had done it, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh crap, I got to book this flight.
Speaker 3: I got it, and I set my reminder, and then
Speaker 3: I booked another flight, and then I was looking at
Speaker 3: my calendar and I'm like, why do I have two
Speaker 3: different options? And there are different times leaving and different
Speaker 3: times arriving, Like the brain is just not you know
Speaker 3: where she needs to be, so referral, I have a
Speaker 3: really great I don't even know what to call Marisa.
Speaker 3: Marisa is my She's someone that I met in my
Speaker 3: last job, and she has become I think I've talked
Speaker 3: about her before. She's sort of like my business budget
Speaker 3: niezte is how I feel. So she and I actually
Speaker 3: talk every week, and we have both been launching our
Speaker 3: solo business at at the same time, and so we
Speaker 3: just check each other. It's like we just ended up
Speaker 3: having these weekly Friday calls and Marisa ended up I
Speaker 3: could talk about her all day. But she is this
Speaker 3: powerhouse professional PR REP and she is on this mission
Speaker 3: to give black women opportunities in PR that they may
Speaker 3: not otherwise have. And we were talking about our sponsor
Speaker 3: word Tune, and I really was meaning. What we were
Speaker 3: talking about is how important written communication is and if
Speaker 3: you do not have communication skills on point, it can
Speaker 3: really hurt you. But what so often happens is people
Speaker 3: who may have the writing skills, they may not have
Speaker 3: the professional background or specific jobs in PR to get
Speaker 3: those opportunities, and they may be wanting to pivot, but
Speaker 3: it can be hard for them to pivot into that career.
Speaker 3: So Marisa is basically training and helping people who have
Speaker 3: those great communication verbal skills, written skills, but they just
Speaker 3: need some training and coaching and how to do that
Speaker 3: in the context of public relations and comms. So Anyway,
Speaker 3: So I was talking to Marisa, so she's like, it's time,
Speaker 3: and I said, I know it's time. And then she
Speaker 3: happened to be working with this young woman named Rock.
Speaker 3: So Hey, Rocks, I'm outing you as my assistant. But
Speaker 3: I'm excited because literally before fifteen minutes before we started recording,
Speaker 3: my little brother Tech called me and he's all sound
Speaker 3: and haggard, and I was like, what's wrong, Alex, because
Speaker 3: I'm staying with him in Atlanta because Atlanta is a
Speaker 3: COVID hell mouth right now. And he's like, listen, I
Speaker 3: got the aches, I got the chills, I'm not the
Speaker 3: I'm fatigued. Meanwhile, he has had COVID, he is vaccinated,
Speaker 3: so I just to be on the safe side, I'm scrambling.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was like, Rocks, I got something for you. I
Speaker 3: need a hotel and I have never needed to use
Speaker 3: the app hotels tonight more than yeah, I need it now. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, I would say, so here's some here's
Speaker 2: some unsolicited admin advice.
Speaker 3: Give it to me, because I know you've been through
Speaker 3: them girls one or two.
Speaker 2: Or three or seven definitely. So my team was like,
Speaker 2: is it you. I'm like, is not me. I've had
Speaker 2: a lot of.
Speaker 3: Really awesome trauma.
Speaker 1: But no, but what I've what I learned with admins
Speaker 1: one it actually like whatever, like give her like a
Speaker 1: general name because it's unlikely that Rocks will be with
Speaker 1: you for like the next twenty years. You know, you
Speaker 1: just never know it's possible, but you never know. So
Speaker 1: you know, my admin's name is her real name is Rose.
Speaker 1: But y'all have ever emailed me professionally or otherwise, it's
Speaker 1: always Michelle. Whether I've had admin's name Sylvia, Leah, Roseanne, Rose,
Speaker 1: Little Candice, I just had so many different admins and
Speaker 1: but either way in Molly, Vicky Thomas, about three kims
Speaker 1: like all right, dmx no, but for real, So so
Speaker 1: that's always a good idea because it just helps us
Speaker 1: like with continuity, like you know, as your brand grow.
Speaker 2: So that's one.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And honestly, I mean, just like honestly open
Speaker 1: communication is always key.
Speaker 2: I believe just this is just in general with like
Speaker 2: teams and whatever.
Speaker 1: What I've gotten really like good at is like I
Speaker 1: want my admin to think what would Tiffany do? So
Speaker 1: in the beginning, you know, we talk all the time
Speaker 1: as I'm giving her instruction, I like to give.
Speaker 2: Her the backstory.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, so, for example, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: let's just say something for grand ambition that you've emailed me.
Speaker 1: So I'm not just like, oh, just let Mandy know, yeah,
Speaker 1: Wednesday's fine. I'm like, so, Mandy's my friend, but we
Speaker 1: have a podcast today together, but we're actually really friends.
Speaker 1: And then so it's important because when she emails you
Speaker 1: that way doesn't sound all formal.
Speaker 2: Like hello Modu, you know.
Speaker 3: And actually why not let him?
Speaker 2: I'm like, just like, hey, girl, anyway, be.
Speaker 3: Very scary and that you're afraid of me.
Speaker 1: So so I just think that like, yeah, with admins, well,
Speaker 1: with anyone anyway, but especially admins, like you know, giving
Speaker 1: them kind of like I call out the soap propera,
Speaker 1: like you know, you're like, okay, so this is my
Speaker 1: favorite show.
Speaker 2: So that's Marcus. So Marcus really likes Vanessa.
Speaker 1: But Vanessa's not luck Marcus because it really helps her
Speaker 1: to make like wiser, more holistic choices when I'm not
Speaker 1: as you know, as present. And so that was it, honestly,
Speaker 1: and but honestly, don't be afraid too, because it doesn't take.
Speaker 1: It took me a long time to realize it doesn't
Speaker 1: take a whole day to recognize sunshine. Where I've had
Speaker 1: admins that weren't a fit and kept them for a
Speaker 1: year and drowned instead. So now I'm like, no, you know,
Speaker 1: like there was an admin that we had recently and
Speaker 1: three days in I was like, yeah, this is not
Speaker 1: a fit, and then with the week I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we wish you well, but this is not
Speaker 1: a fit. I'm not doing that anymore where I'm going
Speaker 1: to suffer for a year when something's not a fit.
Speaker 2: They might be a fit someplace else.
Speaker 1: Because we've had admins who have been on the team
Speaker 1: and now they work on another team, you know, because
Speaker 1: it was a better fit for them there, and then
Speaker 1: just some people who weren't just a culture fitted that
Speaker 1: at all. But yeah, like you know, because it's such
Speaker 1: a critical like my CEO, Karen is my right hand,
Speaker 1: I tell them, and I told.
Speaker 2: Rose you are my left hand.
Speaker 1: Like you're like you might you know, if Oprah emails me,
Speaker 1: you'll see it before I do. So, like you know,
Speaker 1: like admin sounds like too small a word to encompass, Like.
Speaker 3: You want to watch when Oprah emails to me but
Speaker 3: be like, how does email work.
Speaker 1: Now? Because we get some cool stuff that comes through,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, so it's exciting, you know
Speaker 1: because some of the people like admin, that seems like belief
Speaker 1: beneath me, and I'm like, no, SIS, like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's so critically important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you can come up executive assistant,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, human roll of duct tape.
Speaker 3: Just fix all the things, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: all the teams. Yes, no, that thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I think that for me, I learned I made a
Speaker 3: lot of mistakes running a team and building a team
Speaker 3: and working with assistants in the past, and one of
Speaker 3: the biggest mistakes that I made was not being able
Speaker 3: to particulate what I needed. And I actually still do
Speaker 3: this from time to time. We were just in Saint
Speaker 3: Louis visiting my mom and I'm just not used to
Speaker 3: having help, right. I mean, I have a husband, but
Speaker 3: you know he has a wife. Yeah yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: my mom. I'm running around and I'm just like stressed out.
Speaker 3: So the first day we're there, you know, we've thirty
Speaker 3: we've survived a thirty hour road trip, et cetera. And
Speaker 3: I'm trying to still work, and I'm running around Rio.
Speaker 3: We have to like give him allergy medicine. We're looking
Speaker 3: for like one of those little syringes whatever, but no
Speaker 3: one knew. I'm running around with a chicken, like a
Speaker 3: chicken with his head cut off, and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: I have this deadline, and I'm in my head, in
Speaker 3: my head, I'm just like, why isn't my mom more helpful?
Speaker 3: Like why isn't she just like seeing what I need?
Speaker 3: And she's and she stopped me and she's like, I
Speaker 3: can't help you if you don't tell me what you need.
Speaker 3: And I needed some ring and she's like, oh, this one,
Speaker 3: and she had anyway, so for me, and that's anyway.
Speaker 3: So me with me and Rocks, it's going to be
Speaker 3: all about you know, I had I did some introspective
Speaker 3: like thinking about what do I need and what are
Speaker 3: some tasks and all of that, so that I'm not
Speaker 3: just bringing someone on who has no direction. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: you know, all in yes, I hope I. Rocks has
Speaker 3: a cool career of her own and you know, has
Speaker 3: her own business and it's almost like she has two
Speaker 3: bosses because she also works with Marisa and she knows
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, I kind of like that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, if Maurice is on the phone and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, hey, you know, I'm your boss now,
Speaker 3: just like hit up on Marisa.
Speaker 2: I mean I did that.
Speaker 1: I'm the make sure she creates while she's there, like
Speaker 1: an s op, right, a scope of work.
Speaker 3: Like what like we got it she had about that business.
Speaker 3: I had one over the weekend. Yeah that's no, that's excellent.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. We have we have Loom calls. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys use.
Speaker 1: Loom, not calls, but like Loom is like these recordings
Speaker 1: that we do now, so it's like to actually show
Speaker 1: someone and then you click. It's like some latre like
Speaker 1: our like our tech manager on our team kind of
Speaker 1: like got us used to that. It's so helped because
Speaker 1: I'm not techie. So like if I'm like trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to do a thing, we have like
Speaker 1: you know, these sets of videos like here's how you
Speaker 1: upload the da da da, Here's how you you know,
Speaker 1: use whatever like tool or resource, and it's just so
Speaker 1: helpful those short videos.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's how you use it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh that's cute here for the website surely uses loom.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, yes, that's why. That's why. No, but
Speaker 2: that's great having help. Having help is so good.
Speaker 1: You sent me like an Instagram post speaking of which,
Speaker 1: can we talk about it?
Speaker 3: Yes? Ken, we didn't. We have to now, I know
Speaker 3: you're not on ig like you used to be. But
Speaker 3: did you were you aware of it before I sent
Speaker 3: you this?
Speaker 2: Oh? And so did it blow up?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's it blew up on this person's page. So
Speaker 3: this is and I actually shared it on our stories
Speaker 3: just to get some quick feedback from our audience. Because
Speaker 3: so this is a post that Tamika D. Mallory posted.
Speaker 3: And if you have ever heard of the Women's March
Speaker 3: that happened in twenty seventeen after the inauguration of He
Speaker 3: who must not be named, Tamika was one of the
Speaker 3: founders of that march. And she has become you got
Speaker 3: over a million followers on Instagram. She's become a huge
Speaker 3: social activist and she does amazing work. Like this woman
Speaker 3: is a bad, bad woman, and she I mean in
Speaker 3: a good way, you know what I mean. She's amazing
Speaker 3: and I feel what I saw this just pop into
Speaker 3: my feed this post that she put up, and I
Speaker 3: will I will read it to you guys too. But
Speaker 3: my gut reaction was something about this does not set
Speaker 3: right with me. But before we get into it, because
Speaker 3: it is, you know, she's been getting into it. It has
Speaker 3: over four thousand comments on her own page, and it's
Speaker 3: starting to make the round on other black influencer pages.
Speaker 3: But before we get into it, because we do need
Speaker 3: to talk about it. I think I just want to
Speaker 3: establish that I am not a huge fan of like
Speaker 3: cancel people because they said something a bit tone deaf
Speaker 3: or whatever. Like this woman has done so much for
Speaker 3: and still does. She just hosted an amazing event in
Speaker 3: Harlem that was free for kids and for families anyway,
Speaker 3: so this maybe was a misstep in my opinion, but
Speaker 3: I don't think it at all. It takes away from
Speaker 3: her the body of work that she has done and
Speaker 3: how much good she has done. So that's my disclaimer.
Speaker 3: But here's so here's the post. It's one of those
Speaker 3: take a picture of a tweet and post it things
Speaker 3: and she says, IDK, who needs to hear this? But
Speaker 3: you're not overwhelmed, you are lazy and unorganized.
Speaker 2: Wake up.
Speaker 3: Earlier, get an agenda, book, create a routine, create boundaries,
Speaker 3: say no, stick to your schedule, write down and adhere
Speaker 3: to your deadlines. You are standing in your own way.
Speaker 3: Caption said, let me write a caption here, because it
Speaker 3: seems people don't understand that every post is not for
Speaker 3: every person. There are many people who just need to
Speaker 3: focus on their plan, stay off the internet and prioritize
Speaker 3: and stop being lazy. That's me at times. And this
Speaker 3: post is for you if you know you can do better,
Speaker 3: and I will.
Speaker 2: Leave it there.
Speaker 1: And then she liked to she did an updated post
Speaker 1: just so you know, like I guess that. The next
Speaker 1: post she said she doesn't. Yes, when I read a
Speaker 1: post that says I don't know who needs to hear this?
Speaker 1: And then I read the post and it doesn't apply
Speaker 1: to me, I move on. I don't tell the person
Speaker 1: who's posting it they are they are wrong about something
Speaker 1: they feel is important.
Speaker 2: Could it be that it hit you deep?
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, here's what I say. Right, you
Speaker 1: are free to post whatever you want, but also people
Speaker 1: are free to respond unless you turned off comments.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And then two, I don't know, girl, because I have
Speaker 1: been on both sides. We're definitely there's times when I've
Speaker 1: just been straight lazy, you know, and there's times when
Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed, not because I'm actually overworked. I'm overwhelmed because
Speaker 1: there's underlying stress that is actually causing me. Like I know,
Speaker 1: when I'm a feeling stressed, if one nap is not enough,
Speaker 1: like usually I take maybe like a forty five minute nap.
Speaker 1: But if I'm like yo, I slept two hours today
Speaker 1: during the day and then I'm still tired and I'm
Speaker 1: tired again.
Speaker 2: One of the fastest ways.
Speaker 1: That my body gives me an indication Tiffany, you are
Speaker 1: stressed deeply so borderline depressed. Is I'm sleepy in a
Speaker 1: way that's unnatural. That's not me being lazy. That is
Speaker 1: my body saying stop. We are overwhelmed. For whatever he say,
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean overworked, but we are overwhelmed and
Speaker 1: we are physically slowing you down.
Speaker 2: I think she just missed the mark.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what she's saying, because certainly, you know,
Speaker 1: there are definitely times when it's like, you know, tiff
Speaker 1: you really could do a little bit more, or you
Speaker 1: could step up. But to say, here's the thing, I
Speaker 1: would have just it would have hit better if it
Speaker 1: was like sometimes we've all been lazy and we need
Speaker 1: to get organized, wake up. But to say you're not overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: it's like you're making a judgment. You don't know that
Speaker 1: someone's not overwhelmed. You know, you don't know the cause
Speaker 1: if they're overwhelmed. It just it's an easy, lazy post.
Speaker 1: And then to say, oh well, oh well, oh well,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't apply to you, it's like, well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. It says you posted it publicly,
Speaker 1: so you get addressed publicly, and that's okay. That's just
Speaker 1: the way the world works. I can I can freely
Speaker 1: speak and share, and people can freely give me their
Speaker 1: their feedback, you know, so it goes both ways. So
Speaker 1: I think that it was like kind of a misstep there,
Speaker 1: although certainly sometimes you know, we need a little kick
Speaker 1: in the behind, But I don't know that this is it.
Speaker 3: This is a thing. And this is why I'm kind
Speaker 3: of like, Tiffany, you were right to get off IG,
Speaker 3: because this is the danger of being an IG and
Speaker 3: putting yourself you're scrolling through social media land mines is
Speaker 3: how I feel it, and you don't know when you're
Speaker 3: gonna hit one. And I know because as someone who
Speaker 3: who deals with anxiety, and not even I will fully
Speaker 3: there's a spectrum of anxiety, and I am on the
Speaker 3: border of having like a diagnosed anxiety disorder. But I
Speaker 3: have managed and have people in my life who truly
Speaker 3: have debilitating anxiety disorders that stem from things like sexual assault,
Speaker 3: being abused in the past, or they generally just have
Speaker 3: an anxiety disorder. And I put myself in the shoes
Speaker 3: of someone and having also dealt with my own anxiety
Speaker 3: who is just scrolling through their IG feed and they
Speaker 3: see this. And this is where her intention doesn't really matter,
Speaker 3: because the thing is the person. Even if she says
Speaker 3: this may not be for everybody, everybody is going to
Speaker 3: see it because you posted it publicly and it's very
Speaker 3: You say tough love, and I agree. I have said
Speaker 3: things like this to people that I love, a cousin,
Speaker 3: a sibling. I'm the tough love sibling in the family.
Speaker 3: Like I call it like it is. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: which I can do because I think that we have
Speaker 3: such a foundation of love and support, and they know
Speaker 3: that it's coming from that place of love and support.
Speaker 3: And that's why I think that's where like people that
Speaker 3: you know personally, I think you can give them that
Speaker 3: tough love and you know. So it sounds like she
Speaker 3: knows some people, maybe three or four or I don't
Speaker 3: know how many who she should have texted this too privately.
Speaker 3: I do not think that the entire world and unsuspecting
Speaker 3: people who may have been scrolling on their IG feeds
Speaker 3: who follow her for her amazing work, deserve to see
Speaker 3: something like this, because I just my heart breaks, because
Speaker 3: even I have been someone who had to learn, who
Speaker 3: had to learn to be gentle with people who have
Speaker 3: anxiety and have mental health issues. I am someone who
Speaker 3: you know, if you're walking too slow, I'm like, just
Speaker 3: hurry up, Oh your ankle hurts, you know, like, And
Speaker 3: that's because I am so hard on myself for my
Speaker 3: own self esteem issues. It's my own like I'm projecting
Speaker 3: my insecurity on someone else.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Now, where I have learned to be really empathetic to people,
Speaker 3: as I've seen how a fucking to do list and
Speaker 3: an agenda book does not work when you have an
Speaker 3: anxiety disorder. The problem is not that you don't know
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this post, and I'm like getting even angrier.
Speaker 3: The problem isn't that they don't know how to do
Speaker 3: the things. It's that you can write down a list
Speaker 3: step one through ten, and if step one is put
Speaker 3: on your shoes, they are still paralyzed, you know, and
Speaker 3: everything is overwhelming and laying on the couch or taking
Speaker 3: a walk or doing whatever, you know, putting their head
Speaker 3: under a pillow that seems like the what their body
Speaker 3: needs at that time.
Speaker 1: And I just think it's still still timed right, like
Speaker 1: we don't never have good time, right, but meaning like
Speaker 1: especially now, especially now, are we going to act like
Speaker 1: there's not collective trauma that we're all dealing with.
Speaker 2: And we've seen people die.
Speaker 1: In mass right, scared to go outside like run, you know,
Speaker 1: running to get your mask every single time, worrying about
Speaker 1: your elderly parents or your grandma.
Speaker 2: You know. Now kids are getting the delta vain and dying.
Speaker 2: I saw a four year old just died.
Speaker 1: We didn't just have like these terrible storm systems that
Speaker 1: passed through. So I'm just saying like, literally, there is
Speaker 1: a collective trauma that we are experiencing worldwide.
Speaker 2: You know, this is not good times.
Speaker 1: You know the nineties when the economy is doing good worldwide. No,
Speaker 1: there is a collective trauma that we are experiencing as
Speaker 1: a human race period. Right, There's no corner of the
Speaker 1: world that has not been experiencing some form of trauma
Speaker 1: as relates to what's happened with COVID. And so I
Speaker 1: just feel like, although it's never a good time, it's
Speaker 1: especially ill timed because sometimes people don't even know that
Speaker 1: they're experiencing trauma. Like literally, I won't know that like
Speaker 1: something is going on until like Superman will be like
Speaker 1: you all right, and I'm like, yeah, why, He's like,
Speaker 1: this is your third nap today? I'm like it is,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like or like I'll just be
Speaker 1: sitting on the cop and i can't even keep my
Speaker 1: eyes open and I'm like, but you slept last night, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: And I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm weary, but not physically tired. Yeah. I just think,
Speaker 2: like I hear you says, but well then you have
Speaker 2: to hear us.
Speaker 3: Too, like not as saying it, And remember that your
Speaker 3: words have so much power. How could she forget?
Speaker 2: How can you forget?
Speaker 3: You can't help but be significainst that energy and there's
Speaker 3: plenty of people who were like, yeah, I mean, they're
Speaker 3: thanking her for saying it. And I do think that
Speaker 3: people read this and they were like yop. But I
Speaker 3: also I don't. I don't think this is that much different,
Speaker 3: and maybe I should think before I say this. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to think really fast. But remember Rachel Hollis when
Speaker 3: she came out and she said, do you think I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To be relatable? Relatable?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Was Harriet Tubman relatable?
Speaker 3: Dad? Now her, it's a it's very different. Rachel Hollis
Speaker 3: is white, you know, and she has that whole series
Speaker 3: called girl dot Dot Dot, which is you know, I
Speaker 3: think culturally appropriating, like a phrase that black women started.
Speaker 3: But anyway, and in this case, I just feel like
Speaker 3: it's almost as if she's saying, this wasn't for you.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're not if you don't find this,
Speaker 3: if you don't enjoy what I'm saying, then it wasn't
Speaker 3: for you. So just keep it moving, you know. Like
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to really to everybody, but when you
Speaker 3: have a public platform, your words have matter, and they
Speaker 3: matter and they have such a huge reach, and so
Speaker 3: I just fear for the people who are looking at
Speaker 3: that and internalizing that same dialogue, which is that something
Speaker 3: is wrong with me. If I can't do things I
Speaker 3: should have things everyone else should have. I mean, this
Speaker 3: is the peril of being on social media, and it
Speaker 3: is one of those I think digital land mines that
Speaker 3: just it goes off, and I think, if you're the
Speaker 3: one who planted it there, you have to take responsibility
Speaker 3: for that. I hate that it was her because she's
Speaker 3: wonderful and her work is so extraordinary. But I was disappointed,
Speaker 3: I really was in how she handled the whole thing, Like, yeah, girl.
Speaker 1: Like laziness is not Sometimes laziness is actually the symptom
Speaker 1: to a greater issue.
Speaker 3: Isn't that what white people have been calling Black people
Speaker 3: for so long? Or like wanting to think that we're
Speaker 3: just lazy? You know, why are you complaining? Don't be
Speaker 3: a victim. It's like internalized racism, internalized patriarchy, internalize all
Speaker 3: the things that are manifesting themselves, and that if.
Speaker 1: You would just do this, Like I have a friend
Speaker 1: that created something and it was stolen from him.
Speaker 2: He's a black creator.
Speaker 1: It was stolen from him, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: all the things they said, well, if you just worked hard.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 1: He built something that was unique and brought it to
Speaker 1: market connected with an advisor.
Speaker 2: The advisor knew wealthier folks, gave.
Speaker 1: Them back room access to the thing that he built,
Speaker 1: so they were their engineers were able to recreate it,
Speaker 1: was able to raise one hundred million dollars for their
Speaker 1: project off his black back. And you'd be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: maybe went to school. He went to Harvard. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: he went to Harvard.
Speaker 2: So all the things you could.
Speaker 1: Check off, all the lists, you can build something, you
Speaker 1: could work really hard, you can go to Harvard. You
Speaker 1: could do all those things, and someone can still come
Speaker 1: in and take from you and create wealth.
Speaker 2: From them for themselves off of you.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello Elvis Presley, hell Low all the TikTokers that
Speaker 1: take all the dances from all the brown babies on
Speaker 1: TikTok you know, and so like, that is not something new.
Speaker 1: So I hate when people say that, well, if black
Speaker 1: people just work harder, I'm like, you're kidding, right, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's not really what's happening. You know, it's possible
Speaker 1: to work hard and still be taken from and still
Speaker 1: be stolen from.
Speaker 2: I mean it's happened to me, and then what do
Speaker 2: you do? Then?
Speaker 1: How much hard am I supposed to work? I can't
Speaker 1: make miracles happen, you know. It's just like yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean so to see that, especially in the landscape that
Speaker 1: we're in now, that's why, like I said, you have
Speaker 1: to do it's best for you. I am a much
Speaker 1: better place than I was before. When I tell you what,
Speaker 1: Right before this, I wasn't laid out for a nap.
Speaker 1: I was like mm hmm, and I have a vacation
Speaker 1: planned in two weeks. And then I have a yes,
Speaker 1: I'm going, so me and.
Speaker 3: Me and I was home.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say no. Well I won't say
Speaker 2: yea I will because you don't know where.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna go to I was like, Superman,
Speaker 1: you know I've never been to Niagara Falls.
Speaker 2: Let's go for three days. So just book a quick three.
Speaker 1: Day jont midweek to like Niagara Falls, and then for
Speaker 1: my birthday and Hawaii for a week.
Speaker 3: Okay, a little gym and pam office moment. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you watch The Office, No, I don't, but
Speaker 3: some of us are not millennials and it shows.
Speaker 2: I know so. But yeah, Hawaii for my birthday.
Speaker 1: And I just told myself every other month, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: because literally I have Fridays off, so I can leave
Speaker 1: Friday to Sunday, you know, bring a friend.
Speaker 2: I have so many points.
Speaker 1: So I just told myself, I'm prioritizing the things that
Speaker 1: bring me joy. Reading books. Y'all know, I take my
Speaker 1: daily walks. You know, I take my nap if I
Speaker 1: need it. You know, I was just talking to my papasist,
Speaker 1: Tracy to day shout out to you, Tracy, I should
Speaker 1: connect her with Your friend's name.
Speaker 2: Is Marisol, Marisa.
Speaker 3: You know you have Maurice's resume, and I already connected
Speaker 3: you to her, so all you gotta do. It's just.
Speaker 2: No, I should.
Speaker 3: She's busy lit her, get her.
Speaker 2: No, I mean just to connect them to together, just
Speaker 2: to like, you know, just I think.
Speaker 3: It's just that they would get on great. Yeah, tracing
Speaker 3: that her own little pr empire too.
Speaker 1: Yes, And so I no, I just think that, Like
Speaker 1: so she was saying today, she'said, you know you don't
Speaker 1: have You're not doing that much press anymore. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, because I've drawn a boundary of like it's
Speaker 1: not that serious unless I'm really like rolling out a
Speaker 1: big project. So to me that you have to do
Speaker 1: what's right for you for me social media, you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, and you know, I don't see
Speaker 1: myself coming back where I was before, you know, creating
Speaker 1: things ahead of time, giving it to the team. I
Speaker 1: come on to do like my fun lives when I
Speaker 1: want to, and then I jump off and I'm I'm happier,
Speaker 1: I'm lighter, you know, I feel like I have way
Speaker 1: more space. I'm reading literally at least a book a week,
Speaker 1: if not too and like I'm just I'm just in
Speaker 1: a much better place in space. So t Miika Marie,
Speaker 1: I loved you, girl, but docing it And you know,
Speaker 1: if you are feeling like you know, maybe you're not
Speaker 1: as motivated, you know, ask yourself, what are the underlying
Speaker 1: factors that might be preventing you from moving forward in
Speaker 1: the way that you feel as capital doesn't you know, capitalism.
Speaker 3: They create this, I mean I think, well, I mean
Speaker 3: I just want to stay on this topic for a
Speaker 3: little bit because I we're kind of segueing into what
Speaker 3: it means to be even just a business owner or
Speaker 3: to go out on your own and I think like
Speaker 3: you've always been really good about realistic entrepreneur stories and
Speaker 3: about the struggle and about the grind. But I also
Speaker 3: think that there's a lot of people out there who
Speaker 3: have launched businesses and they think that or you have
Speaker 3: this idea that if I'm not working twenty four to seven,
Speaker 3: then I'm not doing enough, or I should be working
Speaker 3: on the weekends. And I feel like it's the I've
Speaker 3: had the benefit of watching people like you build your
Speaker 3: business and also having my financial planner, Helen has an
Speaker 3: even broader service where she actually coaches and helps people
Speaker 3: become CEOs. And what I love is that I have
Speaker 3: when I've approached my business is I've taken I've decided
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sacrifice my mental health. I want
Speaker 3: a better way of working. I don't want to work
Speaker 3: when I don't need to. I want to be able
Speaker 3: to choose how I spend my time and to and
Speaker 3: like you said, like it's okay to take care of
Speaker 3: yourself and you can still be a badass business person,
Speaker 3: like a business woman business person when you take naps,
Speaker 3: when you take a walk, you know when you draw
Speaker 3: those lines, and we need more examples like that. So
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you're open about it. I am
Speaker 3: at four. I quit at four o'clock, and I love
Speaker 3: it so much. Yeah, I was already kind of doing
Speaker 3: it before, but now I don't have to fee guilty
Speaker 3: about it because you're the boss.
Speaker 2: You know, and to feel like, see what my boss say,
Speaker 2: Oh that's why it's me.
Speaker 3: Yes, just that now, and yes, and I flexible working
Speaker 3: arrangements now that you can work remote, I think it
Speaker 3: is wonderful. And hopefully yes, and take those naps during
Speaker 3: the day. And I would literally, even when I was
Speaker 3: nine to five, like schedule an hour and you know,
Speaker 3: I have my nap, my my.
Speaker 2: Moon pod down here in my little nap zone.
Speaker 3: I would take a nap unapologetically around three o'clock because
Speaker 3: it's like, what am I going to do? Drug myself
Speaker 3: with caffeine? There's the people we've just normalized drugging ourselves
Speaker 3: to get through the day when what our bodies need
Speaker 3: is some rest, you know.
Speaker 1: Because what you learn is this is that if you
Speaker 1: maximize the time that you are working, you actually don't
Speaker 1: have to work as much. So I've learned that, Like,
Speaker 1: so for example, if I was if I was writing,
Speaker 1: like When I was writing Get Go with Money Right,
Speaker 1: there were times when I was like, oh, Tiffany, I
Speaker 1: got to push through, and I'd be like, well, what
Speaker 1: does it do? Because I promise you, whatever this tired
Speaker 1: work thing is, you're gonna have to rewrite this section
Speaker 1: because it's not gonna be good work. So I've learned
Speaker 1: to lean in when I'm feeling energized, like so if
Speaker 1: I know I can, I'm feeling energized, and normally I
Speaker 1: maybe only blocked out an hour. I'm like, let's do three, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: because you got the juice right now, because tomorrow, when
Speaker 1: you don't feel like doing anything, I don't do anything,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: So that's what I've really learned.
Speaker 1: It's almost like my own circadian rhythm as it relates
Speaker 1: to work, not just not just right. So I learned
Speaker 1: that when I'm on it, I'm like, oh, okay, juices
Speaker 1: are flowing. I might flow for three days straight, and
Speaker 1: so I'll really go hard because I know that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Saturday, Sunday or Monday or sometimes I just
Speaker 1: like today, I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't really like
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you know, but because last week
Speaker 1: I leaned in when I had the Jews. It gives
Speaker 1: me space to relax when I don't, because what it
Speaker 1: is is that something internally is telling me pull back
Speaker 1: and relax, and it's okay to honor that. Now, to
Speaker 1: be honest, it's different. I always remind Tracy, my publicist,
Speaker 1: because she's just started in business, and so I remind
Speaker 1: her too that she has to create space. But that
Speaker 1: looks different because you like, in the beginning, the work
Speaker 1: is a little bit, a little bit more frantic. I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna lie, Like, there's no way to get
Speaker 1: around that in the beginning because you don't even know
Speaker 1: what you're doing just yet.
Speaker 2: You know, you're still figuring it out, but.
Speaker 1: Still really trying to carve out space, you know, Whereas
Speaker 1: now I don't need to work frantically literally at all.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, girl, what do I pay these people for.
Speaker 1: I pay the people to for franticness, you know, and
Speaker 1: I pay them well, and so I it yo, cause
Speaker 1: Tracy will come over and like, like work for my
Speaker 1: house and like literally it should be like you're just
Speaker 1: on the couch under a blanket.
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, I'm listening to my new business book.
Speaker 1: I'm reading this book now called Bill to Sell and
Speaker 1: it's so great and I'm like, I am working. I'm
Speaker 1: just working in my my favorite target night dress and
Speaker 1: my headphones.
Speaker 3: It's just like this what a self made CEO can
Speaker 3: look like. Girl.
Speaker 1: And honestarily, when I tell you, when you do that,
Speaker 1: I promise you the After my six weeks, the level
Speaker 1: of just like excitement and Tracy's like you've been on one,
Speaker 1: I have been.
Speaker 2: That break recharged me so fully.
Speaker 1: It took my idea from like this is eight figures
Speaker 1: to pitching it and people telling me like, when it's ready,
Speaker 1: this is nine figures, you let me know, And I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: you know, like that taking time and giving yourself space
Speaker 1: truly is the best way to success. That overworking yourself
Speaker 1: just means whatever ideas and things you come up with
Speaker 1: are tired and semi broken, and so like you take
Speaker 1: a break before you break, you know, That's always my advice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Well, I'm glad that we I'm glad
Speaker 3: that we sat without for a while.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Tamika.
Speaker 3: But think about your words and think about who your
Speaker 3: audience is, Okay, and if you have three to four
Speaker 3: people who need some tough love, just whatever happened to
Speaker 3: text you're calling?
Speaker 2: You know, that's what group chat is for.
Speaker 3: That's what the group chat is for. Should we do
Speaker 3: a should we do a breaky or a Boostye? What
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's now it's time for a breaking boost and
Speaker 1: boost and break or break or boost or break a boost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna I'm gonna boost too, I'm gonna boot.
Speaker 1: I have two little light boosts.
Speaker 3: Two little light boosts. Okay, you want to go first?
Speaker 1: Sure, So first boost is so y'all know, my book
Speaker 1: hit their time bestsellers list, but Penguin had printed like
Speaker 1: eighty five thousand copies of the book, meaning that like
Speaker 1: when you went to go get it, the sticker wasn't on,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, it's not a sticker, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like you know, and I'm like, when is it
Speaker 2: coming out?
Speaker 1: So I just got to email today saying tiff Any,
Speaker 1: now that you've sold ninety thousand plus copies of this book,
Speaker 1: woo woo, like we finally have gotten rid of like
Speaker 1: you know, those like those book covers. So it's they're gone,
Speaker 1: and so we have the new book in the warehouse.
Speaker 1: So you should see them start to trickle into your
Speaker 1: local store. So if you haven't already, like of course
Speaker 1: they're in Barnes and Nobles, but they're recently in Target,
Speaker 1: and I think just for this month, so head onto
Speaker 1: your local Target.
Speaker 2: They should be everywhere.
Speaker 1: And it was so hard to get the Target because
Speaker 1: oos Target is Bouget Honey.
Speaker 3: They don't so small.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they don't have much shelf space. So the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm in Target, it's like woo who. So
Speaker 1: go to your local Target, pick it up. It won't
Speaker 1: have the sticker on it just yet, but in the
Speaker 1: next like a month or so, so I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to see, like, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Hit one hundred k then like you know, we yeah today.
Speaker 1: No, I think probably I would say by November, we'll
Speaker 1: hit one hundred k in our first year.
Speaker 2: Hasn't eve been a full year. Honestly, we're not even
Speaker 2: gonna know.
Speaker 3: That's just are you.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's just nothing. I know. I know,
Speaker 2: all right, I know, so I'm so fat. That's one.
Speaker 1: And then I found out, I mean maybe I'm the
Speaker 1: only one. I didn't realize that people be doing fake.
Speaker 2: Reviews on Amazon.
Speaker 3: I guess I kind of thought, but I.
Speaker 2: Never really thought.
Speaker 3: I didn't really.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was watching this CNPC special on YouTube because
Speaker 1: I'm apt to just watch random, like you know videos,
Speaker 1: and they were like thirty five percent they estimate thirty
Speaker 1: five percent or more of reviews on Amazon are fake.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, No, So I was like, what can
Speaker 1: we do? So they mentioned there's this this tool. It's
Speaker 1: totally free. It's called fake Spot, so faithspot dot com.
Speaker 1: They're not you know, we're not you know, they're not
Speaker 1: paying me nothing. But I just so I downloaded it
Speaker 1: to my phone. It's one of those extensions not except
Speaker 1: from my phone to my computer, but I think you
Speaker 1: could do it on your phone too. So I was like,
Speaker 1: let me go to Amazon. So you put it on there,
Speaker 1: and like you know, if you put fakespot on and
Speaker 1: you look at get good money. And they're like, this
Speaker 1: is an a you know, ninety percent of the reviews
Speaker 1: here are real reviews. I'm like, try one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: but that's okay, hater.
Speaker 2: But then you go to like, for.
Speaker 1: Example, I didn't know this, but Nike broke their relationship
Speaker 1: with Amazon said no more, no more Nikes for you,
Speaker 1: because you guys can't seem to keep fake nikes off
Speaker 1: your site.
Speaker 2: So I was like, really, but I see Nikes on.
Speaker 1: Amazon all the time and they'd be having like fifty
Speaker 1: thousand five star reviews.
Speaker 2: So I pulled up one of those.
Speaker 1: I put a Nike air Force ones and you look
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. Fake Spot gets it,
Speaker 1: gives it an f and it says that like eighty
Speaker 1: five percent of these reviews are false. So what happens
Speaker 1: is they go to countries where you know, people have
Speaker 1: like these these review farms, and literally they just have
Speaker 1: people sit log into a new Amazon account five star,
Speaker 1: lock into another one five star, lock into another one
Speaker 1: five star.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what it is? Life?
Speaker 1: Fake spot is life changing because I would wonder why.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I would order something and I'm like, this
Speaker 1: thing is trash. But it had like ten thousand and
Speaker 1: five star reviews. Those were fake, those were bought, and
Speaker 1: I just I don't, you know, I feel like such
Speaker 1: a kid, like how did I not know? You know,
Speaker 1: cause I'd like, you know, you look at the reviews
Speaker 1: and someone will be like, how did they get so
Speaker 1: many great reviews? Because I bought it and it broke
Speaker 1: within two days it's because they're fake. But I love
Speaker 1: fake spot because literally, as soon as you pull up
Speaker 1: Amazon and you go on whatever book or T shirt
Speaker 1: or whatever you're trying to buy, fake Spot puts a
Speaker 1: little grade next to it, and if you want a
Speaker 1: deeper dive, you can click analyze reviews.
Speaker 2: So you're welcome. Fake Spot is going to save your coin. Sis,
Speaker 2: it's gonna.
Speaker 3: Save your Thank you for that, because it's always annoying
Speaker 3: to send Amazon packages back to if you don't like it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't even take it back. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing fake spot spot Like on a.
Speaker 1: Dog spots dot com, duck com, it's like, let me
Speaker 1: write that, Damn, let me write you know, I take
Speaker 1: my notes.
Speaker 3: What do I have so far today? Anyway? So I'm
Speaker 3: a quick boost too. I wanted to shout out Tarana
Speaker 3: Burke because her book Unbound is coming out this week
Speaker 3: and she's been all over. There's a really good interview
Speaker 3: with her the Larry Wilmore podcast Black in Business, where
Speaker 3: she and Larry talk about just a lot of like
Speaker 3: nuanced questions and how she even had to put Trevor
Speaker 3: Noah in his place about how he verbal lot he
Speaker 3: turned me too into a verb and basically said, oh,
Speaker 3: I was afraid someone got me tooed and how she
Speaker 3: had to like you know, tell him what was what
Speaker 3: And it was a great conversation. But I'm so excited
Speaker 3: to get this book unbound. I wish it was coming
Speaker 3: out tomorrow, which is going to be yesterday when you
Speaker 3: guys listen Tuesday on the fourteenth. So there hasn't been
Speaker 3: a book since Tiffany's that I've been this excited about,
Speaker 3: so I wanted to shout that out.
Speaker 1: I've met her in person and she is just like
Speaker 1: so dope, so like just too and like, first of all,
Speaker 1: the cover is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I feel like I could stare at her face. So
Speaker 3: her face is so unique and beautiful and I could
Speaker 3: just like look at it all the time. So I'm
Speaker 3: glad that her face is on the cover too. I
Speaker 3: know we've talked about that before. Shouts out to her
Speaker 3: and shouts out to I want to start like shouting
Speaker 3: out little black business a little black small black businesses.
Speaker 3: And this is one that I've I just used and
Speaker 3: I discovered her. She's in Charlotte, North Carolina, and her
Speaker 3: business is called Hummingbird Candle Company, and I got the
Speaker 3: most delicious scented candles from her. One of the things
Speaker 3: that I'm deciding to spend more money on is candles
Speaker 3: because I don't want to do the cheapy ones from
Speaker 3: home goods anymore. I'm just trying to like booze it
Speaker 3: up a little bit and by myself nice things. And
Speaker 3: her sense are so unique and she has the cute
Speaker 3: I mean. And she was basically told do not start
Speaker 3: a candle business. It'll never be it'll never be profitable.
Speaker 3: And she's just blown up and some of her stuff
Speaker 3: has gone viral. So check her out Hummingbird Candle Company.
Speaker 3: And I didn't write down her name, which is really annoying,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna google it right now.
Speaker 2: I like that name, Hummingbird Candle Company. I like it.
Speaker 3: Wait is it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I think? I said, Charlotte. It's Ashville, North Carolina, Ashville
Speaker 3: but adorable. Well, you will put a link to their
Speaker 3: shop and our show notes.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I do.
Speaker 1: Like Again, I feel like we used to shout out
Speaker 1: like black small black businesses. So we have there's something
Speaker 1: that we like. We should for sure, but if we
Speaker 1: shout them out, you said my skin is looking okay.
Speaker 1: So there's this black business that they make natural like
Speaker 1: health and beauty products.
Speaker 2: It's called the butter Bar.
Speaker 3: So unfortunately you've mentioned the butter Bar before.
Speaker 1: They are amazing, honestly, and unfortunately they're founder. I think
Speaker 1: her name was Kim, but then she passed away last year.
Speaker 1: Shee been ill for some time and it's my understanding
Speaker 1: that she started the butter Bar in an effort to
Speaker 1: make sure that she had like healthy, like natural products.
Speaker 1: But when I tell you now, it's not for everyone
Speaker 1: because my skin is normal to dry, and so a
Speaker 1: lot of their stuff is like kind of like oil
Speaker 1: based and things. So but it's just a perfect match
Speaker 1: for my skin.
Speaker 2: I mean it is. I never had.
Speaker 1: Terrible skin, but it was like as you get a
Speaker 1: little older, you get a little dryer. This is me,
Speaker 1: not not a stitch of makeup, and it is. It
Speaker 1: has transformed my skin. And I'm not one of them,
Speaker 1: like you know, like like my friend Felicia, She's got
Speaker 1: this Instagram account called this That Beauty. So if you are,
Speaker 1: you know, woman in her thirties and forties and beyond,
Speaker 1: Felicia is, you know, her skin is amazing and she
Speaker 1: kind of shows you all these different products and services
Speaker 1: and things.
Speaker 2: But she's fancy skin lady. I don't do all that.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, tell me where to wash my face,
Speaker 1: tell me what to you know, slap on a moisturizer
Speaker 1: and maybe a serum. But the butter Bar got me
Speaker 1: all the way together. I mean, people stop me and
Speaker 1: they're like, ooh, Tiffany. I'm like, it was not looking
Speaker 1: like this before. Thanks butter Bar and Beauty.
Speaker 3: So they're also a fun account to follow on IG.
Speaker 3: They do want facials and I kind of find them
Speaker 3: addicting to watch.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe in them, but they
Speaker 3: look Actually I might hit them up while I'm an
Speaker 3: Atlantic because I know they have a location.
Speaker 2: Yes, but they get something.
Speaker 1: If you could get one thing from butter Bar, I
Speaker 1: would tell you get the melon in. It's a serum,
Speaker 1: so when you wash your face, it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: washed toner serum moisturizer, so washtna seer moisturizer.
Speaker 2: So I can only get.
Speaker 1: One thing from butter Bar, one hundred percent, it would
Speaker 1: be the melon in. It's like this orange yellow serum.
Speaker 2: O m G. It's not cheap now you know me, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, I could be a little budgetie.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should skimp on your face.
Speaker 1: It is worth its weight and go like I literally
Speaker 1: get too. I put them in the refrigerator. It's like
Speaker 1: the ones because it's all natural, the ones I'm not
Speaker 1: using and alf I even got one of those little
Speaker 1: mini refrigerators to keep upstairs.
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's right. You do have a lot of stairs
Speaker 3: at your house.
Speaker 2: So it's there.
Speaker 1: They are my Oh they're my butter bar skin on
Speaker 1: on ig my butter bar skin there.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. Okay, thanks very mudy about them.
Speaker 3: All right, y'all. Well, I hope y'all have a wonderful
Speaker 3: brown ambition Wednesday. We'll see y'all next week, Tiffany, we
Speaker 3: need to figure out our vacation dates that we figure
Speaker 3: out what's gonna happen to the show. What we're going.
Speaker 1: Well, no, the one I'm gonna is during the week,
Speaker 1: so but it's only probably my birthday week.
Speaker 3: That's kind of like.
Speaker 2: But yeah, stay black, y'all and brown.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll see y'all well, not next week Friday.
Speaker 3: We'll see your Friday for yeah. B a q A
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