Speaker 1: Hey boo, It's me Roz and welcome to ghost It
Speaker 1: by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people
Speaker 1: that I like about the paranormal. And this is a
Speaker 1: very special episode because this is the live audio from
Speaker 1: my live on stage version of the show that I
Speaker 1: did here in Los Angeles at Largo, which is a
Speaker 1: legendary historic Hollywood theater. And I was joined by Karen
Speaker 1: Kilgariff and Chris Fleming and also well a surprise guest.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. If you like what you hear
Speaker 1: in the future, I would love to have you come.
Speaker 1: I will of course always let you know on here
Speaker 1: and on my social media, because I really we had
Speaker 1: the time of our lives. Everyone just we just I
Speaker 1: don't know. It was a magical night. We had so
Speaker 1: much fun and it was so nice meeting everyone. And
Speaker 1: I hope to do more of these, particularly in LA
Speaker 1: I do know that I'm going to be at that
Speaker 1: same venue, Largo on May second. Okay, mark your calendars. Now,
Speaker 1: this is one of those times I ain't talking about ghosts.
Speaker 1: I got a full hour every week I give you
Speaker 1: a meat talking about ghosts. I'm on a TV show
Speaker 1: about ghosts. I'll be just talk, you know, talking on
Speaker 1: stage making other things funny. And I'm actually going to
Speaker 1: be headlining with a bunch of my friends. Uh for
Speaker 1: the Netflix is a Joke Festival, and it's the opening
Speaker 1: night of the Netflix is a Joke Festival at Largo.
Speaker 2: I am thrilled.
Speaker 1: Haven't announced who's going to be on it yet, but listen,
Speaker 1: the stars come out to play at Largo, Honey. The
Speaker 1: other night I was there, John Mulaney, Margaret Choe, Sarah Silverman.
Speaker 1: I mean expect an amazing show, so I would love
Speaker 1: to see you there. You can get those tickets at
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Speaker 1: the live show live here in Los Angeles US at
Speaker 1: Largo with Poulter, guests Karen Kilgariff and Chris Fleming and
Speaker 1: another special guest you're about to meet.
Speaker 2: I'm with the show.
Speaker 1: When a latina has this much eyeliner on business?
Speaker 3: How you game?
Speaker 2: Am I possess?
Speaker 1: I swear to about him?
Speaker 3: I possess.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be pissed.
Speaker 1: All this isn't ran, it's magenta. Can we talk to
Speaker 1: someone that has good hate?
Speaker 2: I'm cheaping the banks? Somebody?
Speaker 3: Do not mean.
Speaker 2: The dolls are lippy? Eev? Please? If I didn't ask
Speaker 2: you to haunt mea me tell haunt me.
Speaker 1: Love that one that have the fotopie bread it's poky
Speaker 1: and cookie.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, he say, I'm ghosted by ros Hernandez.
Speaker 1: Stay with me, ebe please all right, let me check. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're good, not bad? How are we doing tonight? Thank
Speaker 1: you all so much for coming to Mike King Signetta.
Speaker 2: I'm so honored to be here. At Largo.
Speaker 1: I was driving here tonight and I passed by the
Speaker 1: Beverly Center, which, by the way, this is. I promised
Speaker 1: you this will be the best paranormal themed comedy podcast
Speaker 1: recording across the street from a mall you'll find anywhere.
Speaker 2: That's a promise.
Speaker 1: But about like seven or eight or so years ago.
Speaker 1: This was back in my drag queen days. I'm not
Speaker 1: a drag queen anymore. I say covered and had to
Speaker 1: toe razzle dazzle. I hosted a show at the Beverly
Speaker 1: Center Macy's. It was a pride show and it was
Speaker 1: in the men's sock department at about four pm on
Speaker 1: like a Tuesday, and there was like ten very confused
Speaker 1: people as a lip sing to Whitney Houston. But I say,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's gonna pay off one of these days.
Speaker 1: And I left that place. I drove by this place.
Speaker 1: I said, one day, I'm going to be at that
Speaker 1: place right there, the Coronet Theater. And I've been traveling
Speaker 1: all over the place, and I it's nice to be
Speaker 1: back in LA because, like I was thinking, like I
Speaker 1: used to host a brunch up the street that way,
Speaker 1: a drag brunch that like nobody would come to and
Speaker 1: sometimes we wouldn't do any numbers because there wasn't anyone there.
Speaker 1: And then I used to host a show down the
Speaker 1: street that way that was a monthly comedy show, and
Speaker 1: they had me in the small room, and then they
Speaker 1: had Joe Rogan in the big room, and then his
Speaker 1: would sell out, and then those people would come to
Speaker 1: my show and they just look like the But I
Speaker 1: just kept going. I said, come on, I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going. And then like a year ago,
Speaker 1: I was shaving my legs and I was feeling the
Speaker 1: water come down on me as I was in the
Speaker 1: bathroom of a haunted clown themed motel. I said, this
Speaker 1: is a show business. Keep going, keep going. And then
Speaker 1: four months ago there was a big billboard with my
Speaker 1: face on it for my first ever TV show.
Speaker 2: I'm the Beverly Center.
Speaker 1: You didn't know this was gonna be an inspirational speech tonight,
Speaker 1: So keep going.
Speaker 2: I have heard that this.
Speaker 1: Place is haunted. There's a lot of celebrities that allegedly
Speaker 1: have stuck around here. So this place opened in nineteen
Speaker 1: forty seven and the first thing that happened on the
Speaker 1: stage was a play of Galileo and it starred the
Speaker 1: actor Charles Lawton.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 1: How this happens, but somehow some people believe he's still
Speaker 1: here after all these years. Also, Charlie Chaplin used to
Speaker 1: have an office upstairs, and people say that they feel
Speaker 1: him up there as well. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: any of them, Charles, if you're hair do something. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: nothing happened, maybe something will happen to I can't guarantee that.
Speaker 1: But you guys know, I know a lot of celebrities,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, how can I get a celebrity ghost,
Speaker 1: you know, just to participate. And I was going through
Speaker 1: my phone book, which is a lot of like people
Speaker 1: that are famous and like psychics and demonologists and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I was like, come on, somebody's got to
Speaker 1: know someone. I think I got the perfect guest tonight.
Speaker 1: And this guest is going to join me all night long.
Speaker 1: This is a big surprise. This person has got several
Speaker 1: movies based on their life.
Speaker 2: This is the real Annabelle. Sorry she can't walk herself
Speaker 2: here she is.
Speaker 1: Thank you, darling, thank you for carrying me. Of course, Annabelle,
Speaker 1: you're a star baby.
Speaker 2: Please do keep going. Are you flirting with me? Annabelle?
Speaker 2: I just might be ras I just might be Okay,
Speaker 2: I can't help. But notice you're a lot smaller in person.
Speaker 4: Well, Mama, the camera adds six to nine inches, if
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Who I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 1: They say celebrities are smaller in person, So it's true.
Speaker 2: And thank you for that compliment, Darling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Annabelle, first of all, love the fur coat
Speaker 1: that you're wearing.
Speaker 2: You like it? Yes, I got the American Girl Doll Store.
Speaker 1: Somebody spent thirty dollars at the American Girl Doll Store
Speaker 1: for this one joke.
Speaker 2: And I'll vemmo you back, I promise, Thank you, Annabelle. Well, yeah, Annabelle,
Speaker 2: you've got money, honey.
Speaker 1: You sold your life rights and those movies are very successful.
Speaker 4: That's right. Turns out she's not raggedy anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing raggedy about you. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is rude to say or not. But those lips, honey,
Speaker 1: what about these? I mean they're so big you can't
Speaker 1: even move them.
Speaker 2: What do you mean? These are my natural lips? Okay,
Speaker 2: just kidding.
Speaker 4: I put a lot of money for these fake lips, Darling,
Speaker 4: what do you think do we like?
Speaker 2: Thank you? I think they're good.
Speaker 4: Look at all these beautiful people on just watching the show.
Speaker 4: Oh I did.
Speaker 1: Not think that you were gonna be so chill. I
Speaker 1: mean people say that you're like a.
Speaker 2: Demon, right, yeah, no, I'm a demon. Yes, no, I'm
Speaker 2: a demon. Hah. Now I'm a full on demon. I've
Speaker 2: like killed people, Darling.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I thought. Okay, but are you like
Speaker 1: out of your killer era or what?
Speaker 4: Well, you know she's free now. She was caged before,
Speaker 4: but now she's free. Right, let's go come in out
Speaker 4: of my cage.
Speaker 2: And I'm doing just fine, Thank you very much. Oh
Speaker 2: my god? Who wait? Who sings that song panic at
Speaker 2: the disco?
Speaker 1: I believe it's the Killers? Of course it is, of
Speaker 1: course it's the Killers. Uh yeah, okay, So this let's
Speaker 1: go over the story of you in case anyone's confused.
Speaker 1: So the real doesn't story. I think this crowd probably
Speaker 1: does know. Okay, if you've seen the Annibal movies, make
Speaker 1: some noise? Okay, whoever hasn't make some noise? And why
Speaker 1: the fuck not?
Speaker 2: Huh? And why the fuck not? Okay?
Speaker 1: So Annabell, the real Annabelle, who's right here, was a haunted,
Speaker 1: raggedy and doll, and she was making life hard for
Speaker 1: a young woman, and she was attacking people a little bit.
Speaker 1: They say she was escaping. She was writing letters that
Speaker 1: would come out of nowhere. They would find these pieces
Speaker 1: of paper with stuff written on it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then she was given to ed Lorraine Warren, the
Speaker 1: famous investigators, and they put her in a glass cage
Speaker 1: kind of like a terrarium that you would keep bearded lizard,
Speaker 1: dragon or something.
Speaker 2: And now you're out. I'm out.
Speaker 4: I'm out, and I have a story to tell, and
Speaker 4: it's it's made me a millionaire darling, a millionaire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like.
Speaker 1: But another reason people might be confused is because in
Speaker 1: the movies you look very different.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, when I sold my life right to
Speaker 4: have the story told, I said I want it.
Speaker 2: I want to audition for the role. I want to
Speaker 2: play myself.
Speaker 4: Really of course, of course, and they said, sure, we'll
Speaker 4: give you a chance. Turns out you need to be
Speaker 4: an actor to audition.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And this this other doll made of I don't know
Speaker 4: what she was made out of, but she was skinnier, taller,
Speaker 4: and prettier than me. Oh, can you believe it? Wow,
Speaker 4: that wasn't rhetorical? Can you believe it?
Speaker 2: So that's an actress. This whole time, I had no clue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was an actress. She did a lot of
Speaker 4: community theater back in her day.
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think of the nun? Because the
Speaker 2: nun is also she's in that kind of world that, yes,
Speaker 2: in the conjuring world. I also auditioned for the nun
Speaker 2: and I did get called back for that. Actually, that's nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they said they wanted more of a gaunt look,
Speaker 4: and they said I was, and this is a direct quote,
Speaker 4: too stuffy looking.
Speaker 2: Oh can you believe that's shade? I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Well, Annabelle, I'm very happy to know that you are
Speaker 1: not as scary demon.
Speaker 2: You seem very chill.
Speaker 1: You honestly, you seem like a lot of ladies I
Speaker 1: know here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Yes, listen, I've been villainous. You know that their stories
Speaker 4: was just a stained campaign against me. The fact that
Speaker 4: they trapped me in this glass cage with a crucifix
Speaker 4: I'm Jewish show.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, You're so cruel to me.
Speaker 4: They kept me in that basement and all I had
Speaker 4: to watch was MTV's Cribs. But then on an episode
Speaker 4: I saw my hero Mariah carry Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember the episode. You all remember the episode?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, that looks like a beautiful bird trapped
Speaker 4: in her own cage on the Lower East Side.
Speaker 2: I want to be her.
Speaker 4: And as soon as I got out of my cage
Speaker 4: and doing just fine, I have emulated the songstress myself.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm terrified to ask you to sing, so I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Annabell.
Speaker 1: Okay follow me on SoundCloud, Annabout Is it okay if
Speaker 1: I bring out my other guests?
Speaker 2: I would love to Okay, is that okay with you? Guys?
Speaker 1: I have some favorites that have returned to the show.
Speaker 1: These are two people that I know you all love.
Speaker 1: One of them is Karen Kilgarup.
Speaker 2: The other.
Speaker 1: Is Chris Fleming. Come on up, Hi, are you attached?
Speaker 1: Grab a sea, grab a sea, grab a microphone smooches. Well, Hi, Karen,
Speaker 1: you are what I expected and so much more. This
Speaker 1: is awkward, But Chris, uh, this is the second time
Speaker 1: this has happened. There's a television TV psychic named Chris
Speaker 1: Fleming that he has toured the world. Read the dad
Speaker 1: and I thought, that's who I booked for the second time.
Speaker 2: Now I have this person and.
Speaker 3: We have a very similar Yahoo email account.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm happy this Chris Fleming is here.
Speaker 3: Well, I understand your disappointed. I mean, I'm not as
Speaker 3: qualified as the actual paranormal Chris Fleming, but I'm thrilled
Speaker 3: to be here. Nonetheless.
Speaker 2: Ross, Yeah, no, I'm very happy to have you here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this has happened several times.
Speaker 5: I would just confirm it next time, like in the email,
Speaker 5: I would just go ahead and directly.
Speaker 1: Right, because the other one would probably know because he's
Speaker 1: a psychic, you'd probably.
Speaker 6: Know ahead to tie anticipate the problem.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, I already know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, guys, Hi, did you hear that the moth
Speaker 1: Man got a tramp stamp tattoo? Some of these people
Speaker 1: might know, so the moth Man, of course, you know
Speaker 1: the moth Man. Yeah, yeah, I call him the moth
Speaker 1: day because we don't know.
Speaker 2: So the moth Man.
Speaker 1: Or that famous cryptid creature that was has been seen
Speaker 1: over the years in Point Pleasant, West, Virginia, there's a
Speaker 1: statue to commemorate and somebody put a lower back tattoo
Speaker 1: on the statue.
Speaker 3: Oh what does it say?
Speaker 1: It's like a sort of a tribal you know, one
Speaker 1: of those like late nineties.
Speaker 5: It should have been the Lockness Monster.
Speaker 1: That would have been Well, I heard the Lockness Monster
Speaker 1: got a Brazilian butt lift. What yes, not to be outdone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very competitive.
Speaker 3: Already had a pretty tight dump truck.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so guys on the show, I like to
Speaker 1: do a little research and I, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: did some major research the past few days and weeks, honestly,
Speaker 1: and I there's a lot o backstage. I got like
Speaker 1: the strings with the thing you know on the board.
Speaker 3: You're in a library and they're like, okay, locking up,
Speaker 3: you're in Ryanstone pajamas.
Speaker 1: Just god, you know me, Well, maybe you are psychic.
Speaker 1: This case is a famous one, and I've been saving
Speaker 1: it for a special occasion because it is a well
Speaker 1: known one and there's a lot to talk about with it.
Speaker 2: It is the end Field Poulter. Guys, we got some
Speaker 2: Enfield heads.
Speaker 1: In the house, all right, So that person's gonna do
Speaker 1: this next segment and I'm going to take a break.
Speaker 1: It's hot a beer. Have you guys heard of the
Speaker 1: Enfield Poulter Guys.
Speaker 6: I have, I have, but I don't want to talk
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 3: Karen's really shy about Then that's the show. That's what
Speaker 3: I have. I didn't know you could just say, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've heard of it. I'm gonna start doing. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: know what you mean.
Speaker 6: It's great for shows.
Speaker 5: You're just kind of withholding during conversations.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my new thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm so excited because of the reaction that
Speaker 3: that evoked from the crowd.
Speaker 2: Very popular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, back to you, Annabel, You've been very quiet.
Speaker 2: I am. I don't know if you.
Speaker 4: Want to know what they got right in the movie
Speaker 4: and what they got wrong in the movie.
Speaker 1: Right because the Second Conjuring movie is based on allegedly
Speaker 1: Annabel's lips are based on a true story, but it's
Speaker 1: based on the story of the Enfield Poulter Geist.
Speaker 5: Veri.
Speaker 3: Amilia's character is based on the Infield the polter Geist.
Speaker 1: She plays Lorraine Warren, the woman who owned Annabelle owned
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: How age start change?
Speaker 1: And then her game Yeah, just SoundCloud dot com slash Annabelle.
Speaker 2: She wanted me to say that to you guys. It's
Speaker 2: here Ed Warren the husband.
Speaker 1: Boo, it's no shape, but he doesn't he doesn't really
Speaker 1: look like Patrick Wilson. But no, no, Yeah, their stories
Speaker 1: are sort of inspired, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And also I think Ed Warren was at his height
Speaker 5: kind of in the seventies, right, like late seventies of them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And I think if you did that backwards math, that
Speaker 5: is what Patrick Wilson would have looked like in the seventies.
Speaker 5: That was the best looking you could get in like
Speaker 5: veryventy seven, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would fake so many Poulter guys
Speaker 1: to get that ghost hunter in my house.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 6: I heard scratching over here.
Speaker 1: The research, yep, this right here contains the truth about
Speaker 1: the Enfield Poultry guyst Are you ready for it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, So most of the research I did here is
Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty three article by Colleina Fraga for
Speaker 1: all Things Interesting dot com. But there's a really great
Speaker 1: uh documentary series called The Enfield Poulter Guist on Apple
Speaker 1: TV that came out like a year ago and it's
Speaker 1: very extensive.
Speaker 2: I watched it so I got some. I got some
Speaker 2: from that I heard.
Speaker 6: It was really scary.
Speaker 2: It's scary.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you have to go to the Apple store to
Speaker 3: get app to see Apple TV?
Speaker 6: You have to watch it at the gens part.
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to. You're I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I figured it out. I didn't have it, but I
Speaker 1: got it for this. Okay, it's been a it's been
Speaker 1: a week. Okay.
Speaker 2: Has anybody here seen that TV show? Yeah? Well, yes,
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 6: Have the field head.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a lot here, so let's just get
Speaker 1: into it. This started in August of nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: There's a single mother. She has divorced, single four kids.
Speaker 1: Her name is Peggy Hodgen. Peggy what, darling, Peggy hodgeen?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, and about.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry, it's okay. Just sounded like a hate crime.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: The way you stared at me while you yelled at
Speaker 3: was also, I know, really intimidating you guys.
Speaker 1: And I was called a slur by a ghost one time,
Speaker 1: and so I know what it feels like to be
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 2: People hurt people. I know all about that. I know
Speaker 2: all about it, darling.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, who hurt you? What's wrong with you? Annabelle?
Speaker 2: Do you need to talk? Society has hurt me? Okay?
Speaker 1: So Peggy Hodge said she's living at two eighty four
Speaker 1: Green Street and Enfield, which is in North London.
Speaker 2: You guys been to North London?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Is that where the airport is?
Speaker 2: I've never been. I want to go so bad. So
Speaker 2: she has four children.
Speaker 1: She's got Margaret who's twelve, Jana is eleven, Johnny is ten,
Speaker 1: Billy is seven, twelve.
Speaker 3: Eleven ten, Billy seven.
Speaker 2: And she's a single mother.
Speaker 3: God, that's a lot of work. Peggy Hodgson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot for Peggy Hodgson.
Speaker 3: And I really hope she doesn't get haunted by this polar well.
Speaker 2: I hate to ruin it for you, but that's exactly
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 3: You are. Peggy's got Billy in one hand covered in mud,
Speaker 3: the other one's covered in baked beans.
Speaker 5: I told you to stop filling that hole outside with
Speaker 5: baked bean, but in a North London to.
Speaker 3: Stop climbing ben.
Speaker 2: That's good, that was good.
Speaker 6: That was great.
Speaker 3: Can you do a sarcastic applause? They like, I don't
Speaker 3: feel like I nailed it?
Speaker 1: Let's see the psychic Chris climbing do accent work.
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet he? Could you get possessed by y?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So the first thing that happened Peggy Hodgson heard a
Speaker 1: loud sound upstairs.
Speaker 2: She goes up.
Speaker 1: There and Margaret and Janet are cowering in the corner
Speaker 1: of their room. I'm so scared and they're all They're all, Mom,
Speaker 1: I can't do the access, but I know you am mom.
Speaker 1: They say, Mom, the chest of Jaws is moving on
Speaker 1: its own.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Mummy, Peggy, Mummy, Peggy. And then Peggy goes, oh, rubbish.
Speaker 6: Yeah you're doing this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that was pretty good. It's an immersive experience.
Speaker 1: So then right there in front of Peggy Hodgson's eyes,
Speaker 1: the chest moved on its own and she says, something's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 6: Here, and she says, I don't have time for this ship.
Speaker 2: Seriously, this poor woman.
Speaker 6: This show.
Speaker 2: Bullets or something like that.
Speaker 1: So, uh, Peggy's brother lived down the street. She had
Speaker 1: him come over and his son, and they found the
Speaker 1: chest was in the center of the room. It was
Speaker 1: too heavy for the girls to move on their own.
Speaker 1: Their male neighbor came over and he heard three knocks
Speaker 1: on the wall that followed him as he walked through
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty sexist story.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would say, believe women.
Speaker 1: I guess, okay, I guess I didn't. I realized I
Speaker 1: didn't need to include that he was a male.
Speaker 3: You're right? I no, oh you oh, you're okay, because
Speaker 3: I guess. I like how the narrator was like, this
Speaker 3: could not be moved by two.
Speaker 6: No woman could ever moved this chap.
Speaker 2: That's what he said.
Speaker 3: The male neighbor came over to make sure.
Speaker 1: But when he was walking around, he heard knocks on
Speaker 1: the wall, like everywhere he went.
Speaker 2: Were they women knocks? Darling?
Speaker 1: I don't know the gender of the knocks. I didn't
Speaker 1: get to that in the research. But when we get
Speaker 1: to the end, two people voicing NFL. Yeah, who the
Speaker 1: hell was that?
Speaker 3: Charlie Chaplin doing it? He took a growlings courses, trying
Speaker 3: out some chops.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to break it into Hollywood, Darling.
Speaker 1: Okay, you've got range, Annabell, can you do a British what?
Speaker 2: Okay? All right?
Speaker 1: So so the male neighbor, he checks the pipes.
Speaker 2: He doesn't fight anything.
Speaker 1: He tells Peggy Hodgson and the kids to go to
Speaker 1: his house and they phoned the police. Then a cop
Speaker 1: a lady cop, I mean she was, she was a
Speaker 1: lady cop.
Speaker 2: Oh, a cop hed.
Speaker 1: She goes in there and she says she saw a
Speaker 1: chair rise on its own and it slid across the floor.
Speaker 1: A photographer and a reporter for the Daily Mirror showed
Speaker 1: up and they witnessed multiple items in the house getting
Speaker 1: moved around on their own. And the photographer was hitting
Speaker 1: the head with a lego, Yes, a lego, just a
Speaker 1: single little guy, one little lego to the head.
Speaker 3: Was it one of those like full complete lego skyscrapers?
Speaker 2: Just what?
Speaker 4: Why isn't this a lego commercial? I would love to
Speaker 4: see a logo commercial like this. I know, seriously, your
Speaker 4: Poulter guys can throw him. So this is when it
Speaker 4: hit the newspaper.
Speaker 3: The Vice News people came over and got hit in
Speaker 3: the head with the legs.
Speaker 1: Well not quite yet. Advice wasn't around yet, but I
Speaker 1: believe it was. It was the Daily Mirror.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, the Vice News of nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so this is when we get Maurice Gross involved,
Speaker 1: gross disgusting.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: His name is spelled Maurice, is pronounced Morris, and his
Speaker 1: last name is Gross, but it's pronounced gross.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Marris Gross.
Speaker 1: He's a businessman and an inventor with a fierce handlebar mustache.
Speaker 1: He is a member of the Society of Psychical Research,
Speaker 1: which is a foundation that's been around for a long time.
Speaker 2: They study this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's been around since the eighteen hundreds, based in the UK,
Speaker 1: and they study all kinds of stuff like this. And
Speaker 1: he told them, if you ever get a good poultry, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm there.
Speaker 3: Well, he's on his phone right, he's just waiting.
Speaker 1: He told who the Society of Psychical Research.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 1: So he ends up basically almost moving in. He's in
Speaker 1: this house constantly. He did over two hundred hours of
Speaker 1: tape recordings in the house, and some of the stuff
Speaker 1: he has is chilling. So he noticed that the activity
Speaker 1: started shortly after they brought a parakeet into the house
Speaker 1: that belonged to a lady that died. They got a
Speaker 1: paranormal parakeet.
Speaker 5: So many parakeets were harmed in the making of this
Speaker 5: and field taunting.
Speaker 1: Well, that was one theory, but another theory he had
Speaker 1: was that Peggy's ex husband who's now out of the picture,
Speaker 1: bought some furniture from a guy.
Speaker 2: It's tragic. There was a death involved in the house.
Speaker 1: He gives the furniture to the family and now they're like,
Speaker 1: the furniture's haunted you over that death, Darling.
Speaker 2: I don't like talking about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: I'll do it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Willy.
Speaker 5: In the Conjuring movie, that guy is a big part
Speaker 5: at the end, does he I think so?
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 6: I kind of don't either.
Speaker 3: I watched that movie with the blanket up right over
Speaker 3: the eyes.
Speaker 6: It scary.
Speaker 1: So apparently this guy might have killed somebody and his
Speaker 1: family and he had some furniture that he put on
Speaker 1: Facebook marketplace or whatever in the seventies, and this lady's
Speaker 1: ex husband bought it, said here's some and then he
Speaker 1: left the house.
Speaker 3: Facebook Marketplace did pre date Facebook.
Speaker 1: It's eternal, so basically they think it's the furniture.
Speaker 2: They burned.
Speaker 1: The furniture didn't stop it. Vulter Geist is in there.
Speaker 1: So Morris Gross brought in a paranormal investigator named Guy Playfair.
Speaker 1: They set up shop in the living room. Now this
Speaker 1: sounds a little creepy, but it's not especially watch the
Speaker 1: documentary you'll see they set up an audio feed recording
Speaker 1: in the little girl's bedroom at night when they were sleeping,
Speaker 1: and they also had cameras because it's like before, you know,
Speaker 1: ring cameras and trail cameras, So they were sitting there
Speaker 1: listening with their headphones.
Speaker 2: If they heard noise up there.
Speaker 1: They had a remote control that would snap, snap, snap pictures.
Speaker 3: Do you still have the trail camera in your bedroom
Speaker 3: that you're used, Yes, I do, and there's a Twitter feed.
Speaker 1: It told you that in confidence. So one night they
Speaker 1: hear Janet up there. She gets attacked by her curtain.
Speaker 3: In the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: Then a BBC radio reporter comes over. Her name is
Speaker 2: Roz Morris.
Speaker 1: All right, she witnessed a chair movement the girl's bedroom
Speaker 1: when they were sleeping.
Speaker 5: She was just standing in there while they slept. Yes,
Speaker 5: that's what's haunting right there. This poor mother had so
Speaker 5: many people to feed darling, I.
Speaker 1: Know, castle after Yeah, a lot of people were coming
Speaker 1: in and out of there. Uh, and things were escalating.
Speaker 1: Janet saw the indentation of a body on her bed.
Speaker 2: Peggy.
Speaker 1: Uh, Peggy's brother saw an illuminating mass at the top
Speaker 1: of the stairs.
Speaker 2: Maurice. Uh.
Speaker 1: He suggests that they all sleep in one room together.
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll help things.
Speaker 3: Room was he was he included in that.
Speaker 2: I think he was like listening in.
Speaker 3: I think we should all kind of share a bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this blows over.
Speaker 1: He's like you ever see The Grandparents and Charlie and
Speaker 1: the Chocolate Factor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you go alternate directions.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the hottest movie that was happening at the time.
Speaker 2: It maybe. Yeah, so they all sleep in one room.
Speaker 1: The gas heater comes loose and almost falls on the sun.
Speaker 6: James comes loose from the wall.
Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 4: This poultry guy seems very very sexist. One of them
Speaker 4: is attacked by a curtain, yeah, and the other one
Speaker 4: by a.
Speaker 2: What that's so gas heater?
Speaker 3: That's so true.
Speaker 1: This was the little boy was attacked with the gas
Speaker 1: heater almost.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The girls are getting like Beauty and the Beast
Speaker 3: style attacks while the boys are getting actual terrorism.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's so funny that you say. Okay, so after months, Peggy,
Speaker 1: she is this poor woman. She is taking sleeping pills.
Speaker 1: She can't sleep all night.
Speaker 5: Longer.
Speaker 2: Kids are gonna attack my curtains.
Speaker 3: There's like seventy people in the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are listening to them, trying to solve this.
Speaker 3: Do you think the polter guys might just be the
Speaker 3: seventy people knocking shit over? Knock, kN knock, just like
Speaker 3: hitting elbows against the wall.
Speaker 2: You know, it could be.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: The kids are exhausted, they're you know, falling asleep at school.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Morris or Maurice Grooves Uh thinks that they need a break.
Speaker 1: He tells them to go on a hold a day
Speaker 1: for a week. They're gone, And while they're gone, the
Speaker 1: poultry guys is bothering the neighbors.
Speaker 2: Two am. The neighbors are here in bangs.
Speaker 3: Oh so polter guys can go to where people are
Speaker 3: next door. Yeah, okay, okay lonely. Yeah, think about the
Speaker 3: poultter guys.
Speaker 2: I thought a.
Speaker 3: Poultry guys would be kind of kept contained in the domicile.
Speaker 5: I thought a polger guys would love an empty domicile
Speaker 5: and just be like, yes, I'm free to knock and
Speaker 5: no one's going to stare at me.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's no fun. You want to show
Speaker 1: off your skills, you know. Yeah, you want to entertain. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: as soon as they come back, the Poultergeist is like,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: I missed you, crazy bitches.
Speaker 1: And the first night that they're back, they're trying to
Speaker 1: communicate with the Poultergeist and it threw a cardboard box
Speaker 1: at Morris's head. He brings in a medium.
Speaker 2: Guess what.
Speaker 1: She immediately gets possessed and she says that Janet, the
Speaker 1: daughter is in danger. So they get some more members
Speaker 1: of the Society of Psychical Research and more members. Okay,
Speaker 1: how many people are in this house at this point? Well,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, they come and go. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people. This is all over at this point.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing less than one year. The total the story
Speaker 1: is less than two years. So a lot happened in
Speaker 1: a short amount of time.
Speaker 5: Can I just say that it's very cold where I'm
Speaker 5: sitting right now.
Speaker 6: Charlie Chaplin's truly freezing cold.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, just saying if my head starts spinning around,
Speaker 5: ghost activity happening right this second on stage.
Speaker 2: That's what these people came here for.
Speaker 3: Correct. Wait, by the way, if I start doing crunches, both.
Speaker 2: Of you have performed here a lot. Do either of
Speaker 2: you think that this place is haunted? Sure, well I.
Speaker 3: Did want to turn out it was just Jeff Ross
Speaker 3: around the corner under a halogen lamp.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So they're getting more people in there.
Speaker 1: They decide that things are only happening when the researchers
Speaker 1: are not in the room, so they would leave the room,
Speaker 1: they'd leave the kids in the room. I know this
Speaker 1: is when things are getting a little suspicious. Are it's
Speaker 1: just playing around? But here's the thing. During Janet's birthday party,
Speaker 1: the poultry guys said, honey, I got some real tea
Speaker 1: for you through a teakettle, missus Potts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all beating and the beast for the ladies.
Speaker 3: And what did Jimmy get a fucking ultimo thrown at him?
Speaker 1: So the chair that Janet is in this is at her,
Speaker 1: the poor girl's birthday party.
Speaker 2: She gets thrown to the ground.
Speaker 6: In front of her friends, in front of her whole thing.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, on her big day.
Speaker 2: On her birthday.
Speaker 1: Happy Okay, But this story gets even crazier at this point.
Speaker 1: They're all convinced that this whole thing is centered around Janet,
Speaker 1: which often you know, poultrygeist is often centered around one person.
Speaker 1: A lot of times it's like adolescent girl. I don't know,
Speaker 1: so they're they're really thinking she's the focal point. Don't
Speaker 1: forget about the psychic that got possessed.
Speaker 6: I won't, she said chant it said Tanager.
Speaker 3: Okay, so.
Speaker 2: That was my character work.
Speaker 1: Uh So at this point Janet is able to bend spoons.
Speaker 3: Oh not good with her mind? With her mind, I.
Speaker 6: Was gonna say, because that's not that scary.
Speaker 5: If you just now, you're just pissing your poor mom
Speaker 5: off even more.
Speaker 3: I was impressed, thinking it was just fit. I don't
Speaker 3: think I could bend this. Maybe if I got like
Speaker 3: really jacked up on Coca cola.
Speaker 1: Think about Port Peggy Hodgson and her silverware. Janet's over
Speaker 1: here with her brain bending the spoons.
Speaker 3: It won't even fit in the drawer.
Speaker 4: This wouldn't have happened to Reba.
Speaker 2: Wait, I don't get at neither.
Speaker 3: I don't. I didn't.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so sorry. Can you explain that joke?
Speaker 4: This wouldn't have happened been to Riba McEntire Mac.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good point. Now, I get it's got
Speaker 3: the rider.
Speaker 2: That's true that would not happen to Reba. Yeah, Riva
Speaker 2: on her show Riba.
Speaker 1: Yes, ah, because people are always been in spoons on Riba.
Speaker 3: Doing spaon con for Riba right now, Ria person, I've
Speaker 3: only known her from the Telly.
Speaker 2: But are you British? No? I do watch the BBC
Speaker 2: a lot. Okay.
Speaker 1: So they start getting Janet studied by parapsychologists and they
Speaker 1: determine she's.
Speaker 2: Got the gift.
Speaker 3: Jane's got the gift.
Speaker 2: Janet's got the gift.
Speaker 1: So one night the investigators capture on camera Janet being
Speaker 1: lifted in the air from her bed.
Speaker 2: Kind of a famous picture you can google on your own.
Speaker 2: Does she wanted to what? What's you say? Reba?
Speaker 5: You keep no budding? Annabelle. I don't think that's a
Speaker 5: good idea.
Speaker 1: I know. I only took one improv class and it
Speaker 1: was over zoom.
Speaker 2: I had a bad Internet can act check? I only
Speaker 2: learned the first part.
Speaker 3: Annabel does this Annabel compared to the TV Anna Bell,
Speaker 3: it looks like the or the movie. Annabel looks like that, Annabel.
Speaker 3: After a couple of clown classes.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to take clown classes.
Speaker 4: Yes, Natalie Pealomides is my hero.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So, uh one night they captured her flying in the air.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: On another occasion, a crossing guard is walking by. Her
Speaker 1: name's Hazel Short. Yeah, these names, I know, they're so good.
Speaker 1: She's outside in these cocktails. Through the window, she sees
Speaker 1: Janet being lifted about the room.
Speaker 3: Just paragliding. She's paragliding in her room, face first, like
Speaker 3: the never ending story Dragon.
Speaker 1: But it's not just Hazel Short. She's not the only
Speaker 1: one that saw it. A man named John Rainbow saw it.
Speaker 2: No, people don't. They don't know.
Speaker 3: Creative writing class. Did you, Rainbow?
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me Randy Rainbow is not real?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Okay, think Randy Rainbow votes for Trump?
Speaker 6: Oh he must, the great reveal. He must.
Speaker 1: Another time, they heard whistling coming out of her. She
Speaker 1: was whistling but not moving her mouth.
Speaker 2: Oh I can do that.
Speaker 3: I could do that yet.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you don't move your mouth at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do it. I don't even know what end that
Speaker 1: came up. Okay, So, so Jada had a leak.
Speaker 4: I don't know she's whistling though. I just had vaginal rejuvenation.
Speaker 4: So excuse me.
Speaker 5: Darling, Sorry, really quick, Janet was whistling without using withoutout
Speaker 5: moving her exactly, not using her mouth.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so that.
Speaker 1: Shaking in his boots like a Cherry Lewis and Lamb
Speaker 1: Chops are going, oh we gotta we are packing up.
Speaker 2: She figured out how to whistle.
Speaker 3: Cherry Lewis is probably cutting her teeth in the clubs
Speaker 3: at this point with Lamb Chop, right, Yes, when was
Speaker 3: Lamb Chop? That was eighties nineties?
Speaker 6: I think seventies eighties.
Speaker 3: I think I was watching. I thought I was watching
Speaker 3: in real time. What was the time?
Speaker 2: One thing you didn't see whistling.
Speaker 1: No, that's true, and that's what Janet Hodgson could do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing you are seeing the song had never ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So they also witnessed a barking noise coming from near Janet.
Speaker 6: Everything's on Janet.
Speaker 2: Yes, Janet's the honey, she's the star of the show.
Speaker 1: She's escaped this Janet, miss hodshen if you're ghosty okay.
Speaker 2: So they're hearing this barking sound and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden.
Speaker 3: The park's a regular.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. She's she's doing dogs, She's doing This.
Speaker 3: Is the ultimate test if you're a good ventrilo quiz
Speaker 3: making Maurice gross finger test by a Palterer guy.
Speaker 1: Well but here, okay, this is this is the real
Speaker 1: twist of the story. The bark it's barking, and then
Speaker 1: they go what is your name? And it says Bill
Speaker 1: Bill Bell.
Speaker 2: Bill, Bill Bill.
Speaker 3: You're saying it different each time.
Speaker 1: Ross Bell spell it a pen Bill like engvall.
Speaker 6: Okay, Bill, like.
Speaker 1: The things I gotta pay every day. Bill Wilkins, the
Speaker 1: ghost does not have a last name. Yes he does,
Speaker 1: stop it. No, this is when the whole thing gets crazy.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: So he's a dog named Bill Wilkinson dog.
Speaker 1: He's just a silly man named Bill that sometimes makes
Speaker 1: dog sounds and whistles.
Speaker 3: Got it, got it?
Speaker 1: So he tells them he got a hemorrhage. He went
Speaker 1: to sleep, and I chaired downstairs in this house before
Speaker 1: these family had moved in, and he died there.
Speaker 2: That's what he tells them. You don't believe me, Alex.
Speaker 2: Can you play the tape.
Speaker 3: Whether you remember what happened to you when you died?
Speaker 1: I think that's Morris just before you died and just
Speaker 1: after you died.
Speaker 7: Wait for its blah died day He blind.
Speaker 3: H I had a name.
Speaker 7: Which and not ben esleep and our dog in the
Speaker 7: chair in the cool downstairs.
Speaker 6: Fake.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're telling me that's a little girl that was coming,
Speaker 1: that was coming out of Janet.
Speaker 2: It was coming from around Janet.
Speaker 6: Really, but her mouth is just open, her.
Speaker 2: Lips a little bit.
Speaker 6: Okay, So can I just say Janet is Janet?
Speaker 5: Butcher if you came back from the other side, would
Speaker 5: you immediately start talking about how you hemorrhaged?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 6: Is that the first thing you're like?
Speaker 2: First life?
Speaker 6: You know you're right, the medical is right.
Speaker 1: He tells them he has come to this house because
Speaker 1: he used to live there, and he came looking for
Speaker 1: his wife and instead he found this family.
Speaker 3: I've been there.
Speaker 1: Yes, they found that the two girls were making the noise,
Speaker 1: but they studied their vocal cords and they found that
Speaker 1: it was not possible to do that voice for hours
Speaker 1: at a time without losing it.
Speaker 2: They studied this so many tests. They did a lot
Speaker 2: of tests.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had professionals from labs and colleges all.
Speaker 6: Over the country all over.
Speaker 2: Seed. I guess, so hemorrhage.
Speaker 6: Again, hemorrhage again.
Speaker 1: And to please the skeptics, they actually brought in a ventriloquist.
Speaker 1: They brought in a celebrity ventriloquist named ray Allan Britain's
Speaker 1: got talent. Sorry, they bring in ray Allen. He's looking
Speaker 1: at them, he's saying, how do they do that? He's
Speaker 1: learning some tricks. He's like, oh, that's how you whistle.
Speaker 1: So this fool goes to the press the next day
Speaker 1: and tells them it's all girls faking it for attention.
Speaker 6: Yes, because he was jealous.
Speaker 2: He was jealous because he knew so.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Now Morris does an experiment where he puts tape over
Speaker 1: her mouth, so obviously she can't do it right wrong.
Speaker 1: Bill Wilkins is talking, Her mouth is covered with tape.
Speaker 3: What kind of a scotch taper or like a duct tape?
Speaker 2: Like the good stuff?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 1: So Janet says that she starts seeing the face of
Speaker 1: an old man around the house. It was starting to
Speaker 1: seem like Bill or something was possessing Janet. They were like,
Speaker 1: we don't know what to do. They call in a doctor.
Speaker 1: That doctor tranquilizes her.
Speaker 3: With like a blowgun.
Speaker 2: Let me try that again. Tranquilizes her.
Speaker 3: There's so much happening in this time. Yeah, a ventriloquiz,
Speaker 3: a tranquils, a large game hunt.
Speaker 2: I know, it sounds like a Steffan.
Speaker 5: Sketch, like we're imagining that all these people are coming
Speaker 5: and never leaving, so they're just like each group.
Speaker 3: That's the math problem is if all these people cannot leave,
Speaker 3: how many.
Speaker 2: People, how many Poulter guys?
Speaker 1: Place has everything but trilla quiz hemorrhaging, eyeing, tea kettles. Okay,
Speaker 1: you who isn't there, darling? You well, me of course,
Speaker 1: But Lorraine ed Warren, We'll get to that.
Speaker 3: So I was so worried she was gonna say, reebuk, could.
Speaker 2: You just miss gender Annabelle, I gotta go.
Speaker 6: Wow sorry wow.
Speaker 1: So so they tranquilized her and it did nothing until
Speaker 1: she finally calmed down.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy, Janet.
Speaker 1: Yes, when I saw the documentary, they said the doctor
Speaker 1: said that tranquilizer could have taken out a horse.
Speaker 2: And it did nothing.
Speaker 6: But it couldn't take out.
Speaker 3: Billson, oh bark and Bill Wilkinson.
Speaker 6: From the chair.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So a decision was made to get Janet out of
Speaker 1: the house. They they sent her to a home that
Speaker 1: was run by nuns for children. She was there for
Speaker 1: six weeks and it seemed like kevin her out of
Speaker 1: the house and away from the energy. It slowed it,
Speaker 1: everything stopped pretty much. That's this is what's real crazy.
Speaker 1: You thought that was crazy. Morris years later, gets hit
Speaker 1: up by a guy named William Wilkins.
Speaker 2: Gets hit on. No hit up the son.
Speaker 1: He's the real son of the real He said, that's
Speaker 1: my dad. He heard him talking on the recordings, and
Speaker 1: he plays them the recordings, and the son says, that
Speaker 1: is exactly what happened. He lived on that street, in
Speaker 1: that house. He went to the chair, he fell asleep
Speaker 1: and died in his sleep.
Speaker 2: It all was a real guy.
Speaker 5: His hobby was moving chests.
Speaker 3: It could be.
Speaker 1: One thing he did say is that he liked to
Speaker 1: knock three times on things. And remember the first time
Speaker 1: the male neighbor came through the house and there was knocking.
Speaker 2: H What about playing with curtains.
Speaker 1: That I didn't care, I did not hear. But how
Speaker 1: crazy would that be? How crazy would that be if
Speaker 1: you were this guy William Wilkins, and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, my dad's inside of that twelve year old
Speaker 1: girl on TV. My dad's possessing that little girl. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so you feel really bad. Yeah, this whole thing lasted
Speaker 1: again less than two years. Morris remained friends with the family.
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't have like a you know, a
Speaker 1: father figure around, and he was there. He was there
Speaker 1: for hours and nobody.
Speaker 5: Was there watching them sleep, standing in their room.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People are believing them, these poor people. They went through
Speaker 1: so much and he was there for them the whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did he cook for them that? I don't know?
Speaker 3: Is he salaried by this? Like why is he doing this?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I think he had he had very well for himself
Speaker 1: as this inventor slash business man.
Speaker 3: I am picturing crazy old Maurice from Beauty and.
Speaker 1: I don't he's actually, I actually really I'm not sponsored
Speaker 1: by the TV series at all or anything. But you
Speaker 1: should watch it as a four part documentary on four
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good and there's it's touching
Speaker 1: at the end. What is the Enfield culture?
Speaker 3: Guys, he's still sponsored by that show.
Speaker 1: So to answer your question about Ed and Lorraine Warren,
Speaker 1: they were not really involved very much. We're not very
Speaker 1: what the people from the conjuring the Conjuring Part two.
Speaker 4: My captors, your captors, yea, they were coming out of
Speaker 4: my cage.
Speaker 2: Just remember they were.
Speaker 1: Indeed there, but very briefly. It was honestly, it was Morris's.
Speaker 5: It was Morris's jam because Morris was the British and
Speaker 5: he was for once.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would say that Patrick Wilson and Very Familiar are
Speaker 3: a lot more compelling than just Paul Giamatti.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If we're going to do a movie, you know, I
Speaker 3: get why they do. Yeah, I'm imagining Paul Giamoni for Morris.
Speaker 2: I think you just.
Speaker 6: Watched the documentary I was imagining.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Ryan Reynolds I was.
Speaker 2: I do need to point out that was very crazy.
Speaker 1: As soon as Alec in the sound booth press play
Speaker 1: on that scary voice. My hoop earring fell off of
Speaker 1: my hat. When you're a Latina and your hoop earring
Speaker 1: falls off, that is violence. Yes, Charlie Chaplin.
Speaker 6: So what happened to Janet?
Speaker 2: Yeah she alive.
Speaker 1: She's in the documentary. Oh great, she survived. Everything was fine.
Speaker 1: She went back to the house and things, you know,
Speaker 1: slowly but surely calmed down.
Speaker 2: What did I miss? Did I miss anything? Any major
Speaker 2: key points the who what did you call me? What's
Speaker 2: a minersey?
Speaker 3: We can't say miners anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. Oh, there was some
Speaker 2: of that, Yeah, what do you what do you mean?
Speaker 6: Did you censor that part?
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: This is so yeah, this is one of the big.
Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of skeptics, of course, naturally, that
Speaker 1: think it was teenage girls going through a lot at
Speaker 1: home and looking for attention. And one of the things,
Speaker 1: one of the things that was suspicious, what was that
Speaker 1: Bill Wilkins, the little girl talking was constantly asking questions
Speaker 1: about like how women's bodies work, and and it's like old, yeah,
Speaker 1: like whatn't the older man though?
Speaker 8: Energy toxic shocks rome? Is it real or is it
Speaker 8: a rumor? Woof, woof, yep, yep, yep. Am I really shedding?
Speaker 8: Is one really shedding? The full unal lining every month?
Speaker 3: Wof, woof?
Speaker 2: Do we have an exorcist here?
Speaker 3: This? This is just shows how bad sex ed was
Speaker 3: in the UK in nineteen seventy seven, that you have
Speaker 3: to pretend to be possessed by Barkin Bill Wilkinson to
Speaker 3: get information on pads or tampons.
Speaker 1: So that was definitely one of the big skeptical things. Now,
Speaker 1: based on what I've told you, guys, do you feel
Speaker 1: like it was the little girls looking for attention or
Speaker 1: do you think it could be possible?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I think it's very I totally buy it, Karen.
Speaker 6: I don't know how to feel anymore.
Speaker 5: I know it feels it's like there's it argues against itself.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's not enough cooks. You're only allowed to vote once
Speaker 1: if you believe it makes some noise.
Speaker 2: If you don't believe this case makes.
Speaker 6: Some noise, exactly fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1: Pretty fifty fifty action. We do a thing on this
Speaker 1: show where I like to listen to ghost voices.
Speaker 2: It's time for EV pease or EV.
Speaker 4: Please Wow, Hollabelle, why listen to your podcast?
Speaker 2: Darling? Thank you? Okay, So here's what I do.
Speaker 1: I go to YouTube dot com. I type in EVP
Speaker 1: Electronic Voice Phenomena. It's alleged recordings of ghosts speaking that
Speaker 1: people have plopped up on the internet, and now we're
Speaker 1: gonna analyze them. So I've got two of them for you.
Speaker 1: We're all gonna listen here together. This first one is
Speaker 1: from soul Searching on YouTube and it's at a very
Speaker 1: famous place called the Valliska Axe Murder House, which is
Speaker 1: in Valiska, Iowa. Could you please play EVP number one?
Speaker 2: That one? I believe?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was real for sure?
Speaker 2: What is that ghost saying? Do you guys have any guesses?
Speaker 2: So far? To keep playing? Again?
Speaker 3: That was it?
Speaker 2: That was?
Speaker 6: That was farting for sure? What it was farting?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing hornets flying around.
Speaker 1: Let's play one more time? Do you have any guests?
Speaker 1: I'll give you some options? Kind oh very good?
Speaker 6: Hy yeah yeah, yeah, ye.
Speaker 2: Ay ay, that's not what soul Searching thought.
Speaker 7: Is it A?
Speaker 2: I bet you want some more? Is it B? What
Speaker 2: do you want? Is it C The cats Lie on Me?
Speaker 2: Or D the movie Enough?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the movie Enough with j Low where
Speaker 1: she's had enough? Okay, play one more time for us?
Speaker 2: Which one?
Speaker 6: Will you read the first two?
Speaker 2: Again? I bet you want some more? Or what do
Speaker 2: you want? What do you want? I would guess they
Speaker 2: believe it's see the cats Lie on Me?
Speaker 1: Now that we know that, I'm sorry, Alec, can we
Speaker 1: do one more time?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I actually heard it perfectly.
Speaker 1: You're still lying on her, they aim or they Okay,
Speaker 1: here's one more. This one is from a YouTube channel
Speaker 1: called Scary Mysteries. It's at a place called the Village
Speaker 1: Salon Dee in Grand Cain, Louisiana.
Speaker 2: They have a ghost named Brenda that moves things.
Speaker 6: Just a cigre right around in the air.
Speaker 2: All right, what is this ghat saying? And I guess
Speaker 2: one more time?
Speaker 6: Those clear as a bell.
Speaker 2: What does it say is my number?
Speaker 6: Is I heard I'm not crazy?
Speaker 2: I heard I have paupers and I do? I do.
Speaker 8: It?
Speaker 2: So now, okay, here's some options.
Speaker 1: Is it A I like Crazins, the Cranberry treat by
Speaker 1: Ocean Spray company, Crazins. Is it B I'm not crazy?
Speaker 1: Is it C it's a crime scene? Or D I'm
Speaker 1: not on Craigslist. All right, play it for us again,
Speaker 1: please Craigslist.
Speaker 3: I did, but I think I just hear the most
Speaker 3: recent thing you said.
Speaker 1: Is that Brenda saying I'm not on Craigslist. Well, Karen
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 2: It's B. I'm not crazy.
Speaker 5: I mean, on the first one it truly just sounded
Speaker 5: like white noise, and then that one sounded like someone
Speaker 5: talking very clearly.
Speaker 3: Now I think ghost literacy is just.
Speaker 6: I'm that quick learner.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, guys, I want to do one last thing tonight,
Speaker 1: and I'm a little nervous about it because we've never
Speaker 1: done this before.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a little bit of an experiment.
Speaker 1: It's going to require two audience participants that are willing
Speaker 1: to come up on stage during this live recording of
Speaker 1: Ghosted by Roz Hernanandaz So the I'm looking for something specific.
Speaker 2: I am looking for two people. Now this is LA.
Speaker 2: It might be hard to narrow it down to two people.
Speaker 1: But they have to be empaths, people that feel like
Speaker 1: they pick up on vibes. I'm going to recommend it's
Speaker 1: not people that have a neon sign and a shop
Speaker 1: that they work at somewhere. You don't charge people. I
Speaker 1: just want everyday mpath.
Speaker 6: And also, can I just say, and people get mad
Speaker 6: at me, no redheads.
Speaker 2: Excuse me. I think that's totally fair. Character think about ribaba.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you would like to be one of these participants,
Speaker 1: you will get a prize for participated. Raise your hand
Speaker 1: and I'll choose from these people. Okay, I see you.
Speaker 1: How about someone back there right there, come on, give
Speaker 1: them a hand for coming up.
Speaker 2: Hello, okay, kisses, stand right here in the middle. So
Speaker 2: what is your name? Amanda? Hi, Amanda? And what's your name? Abby?
Speaker 2: Amanda and Abby? Okay? Now, what makes you feel like
Speaker 2: you might be a little bit you know? Psychic? People like?
Speaker 2: What like? What kind of things happen?
Speaker 5: I can just feel when someone's happy or sad or
Speaker 5: in pain, or I can read a room.
Speaker 2: Okay, how do I feel? I am nervous?
Speaker 1: All right, Amanda, Abby?
Speaker 2: Abby? Why do you think you're a little psychic? I'm autistic?
Speaker 1: Okay, So how does that manifests with your psychic abilities?
Speaker 6: I think I pick up on stuff that other people don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, makes sense right? All right. So I'm looking
Speaker 2: for the next big psychic here tonight.
Speaker 1: As I'm becoming a television star, I believe it's time
Speaker 1: for me to have my own personal psychic.
Speaker 2: So this is going to be.
Speaker 1: Called Ross's Search for her Psychic Psychic, just for tonight,
Speaker 1: or maybe not, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never done this before. I'm not
Speaker 2: committing to anything yet.
Speaker 1: You're not on the pay roll yet, Okay, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do three rounds real quick, just to test your
Speaker 1: psychic abilities. So round one, this is the client round.
Speaker 1: You guys will both have a client right over here.
Speaker 1: Let's put Amanda. Your client is going to be Karen Kilgarriff.
Speaker 1: Abby your client is going to be Chris Fleming, not
Speaker 1: the psychic. Okay, So I asked both of your clients
Speaker 1: a question ahead of time, and I want you to
Speaker 1: tell me what they answered. Just but you know, pick
Speaker 1: up on their vibe what you think they would have said.
Speaker 2: All right, I.
Speaker 1: Asked Chris Fleming, what is your favorite snack? Did Chris
Speaker 1: say A ants on a log, B pigs in a blanket, C,
Speaker 1: Panucci fudge.
Speaker 2: Or D sun chips, Son Chips? That is not correct.
Speaker 2: It's okay, you're still You're still, You're still in the running.
Speaker 3: I still I do like son chips. Okay, as a kid,
Speaker 3: I love I Actually they gave me like you know
Speaker 3: when you get a second wind in life?
Speaker 2: Uh huh? Son chips were that for you?
Speaker 6: It was like your cup of coffee at three pm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like damn yeah, Like as a fifth grader,
Speaker 3: I was like shit, So you know that's that is
Speaker 3: very intuitive.
Speaker 2: Well, the correct answer was Panucci fudge.
Speaker 3: What is that It was very smart, Ross, because I
Speaker 3: do look like someone who's gonna have an animal based
Speaker 3: you know, like ducks in a house or whatever.
Speaker 2: You were saying, like pigs in a blanket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dogs in a car, but an actual pig wrapped
Speaker 1: in a blanket in a throwt okay, Amanda. I asked
Speaker 1: Karen Kilcarriff, what is her idea of a perfect getaway?
Speaker 1: Did she say, A sneaking into the Burdbank ikea for
Speaker 1: the weekend b a full week on the legends of
Speaker 1: rock cruise with performances by Brett Michaels, see Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: floorah or d a city that she's never been to before,
Speaker 1: and then stay in the hotel the whole time.
Speaker 2: You say it's d That is correct? Okay, nice.
Speaker 6: Second round, Panucci Fudge.
Speaker 1: In the Great Heterosexual Tradition of gender reveal parties, I
Speaker 1: went to a baker and I said, please make me
Speaker 1: a gender reveal cake. I'm going to show you the cake,
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what the gender
Speaker 1: of the cake is. Excuse me here, I'm gonna sit
Speaker 1: this right here. Okay, now really soaking the cake.
Speaker 2: Okay. I want you to get to know this cake well.
Speaker 2: This cake is either going to be blue for.
Speaker 1: Boy, pink for girl, or it's just gonna be like
Speaker 1: a white like vanilla cake. Maybe it's sort of non
Speaker 1: binar hasn't figured out.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you say? Auto sexual? Yes? Thank you, Annabelle? Okay?
Speaker 2: Is it an auto sexual? Is it pink? Or is
Speaker 2: it blue?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Both of you are allowed. You could guess the same
Speaker 1: thing if you want. It doesn't matter. Now let's go
Speaker 1: first with you Abby.
Speaker 6: I think it's a non binary cake.
Speaker 2: Okay, sort of like a not blue or pink. What
Speaker 2: about you? Pink? Okay? Can we get a drum roll?
Speaker 2: What is the gender of this cake? Abby's correct? It
Speaker 2: is just a regular cake, Darling. It's an auto sexual cake,
Speaker 2: an auto sexual cake. So it's a tie.
Speaker 1: This is good, This is great, this is good. Okay,
Speaker 1: last final round. This is going to be the hardest one.
Speaker 9: Which Kardashian is auto sexual? Rab but Kardashian okay. The
Speaker 9: final round. This game is called What's in the Box?
Speaker 9: I'm going to pull out a box. Something is in
Speaker 9: that box?
Speaker 2: The question what? Okay, something is in this box? You
Speaker 2: both get one guess.
Speaker 1: If you don't guess correctly, then I'm going to resort
Speaker 1: to my judges over here, and they're going to debate
Speaker 1: who was closest.
Speaker 2: What is in the box? Feel it out, really tune in,
Speaker 2: get out of crystal. If you need one. Here we go.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 6: Do we get any clueser?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you one. I'll give you one.
Speaker 3: That's a really fair question.
Speaker 1: That is a fair question. It is a stuffed animal.
Speaker 2: What animal?
Speaker 1: Whale, a whale, Elmo or a bunny? Okay, narrow it down,
Speaker 1: narrow it down. A bunny, a bunny? Well, Elmo's not
Speaker 1: an animals.
Speaker 3: A couple of miles between Almo and a bunny. Okay,
Speaker 3: white Elmo's in there. I'm gonna run.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so what you said a whale will let
Speaker 2: you do a color too?
Speaker 6: Gray?
Speaker 1: A gray whale and a white bunny. Are you okay
Speaker 1: with that final answer?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Like a gray Could you please open this box for us?
Speaker 2: Karen? What is in the A pink peg? Oh?
Speaker 1: Now, this is my pink pig. She is a very
Speaker 1: independent woman. I love her very much. Her name is
Speaker 1: Piggy Hogson.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I
Speaker 3: could understand that being misconstrued as a white Elma.
Speaker 6: Yes for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now the two of you, the game is tied.
Speaker 1: This is this is very big as we search for
Speaker 1: the next psychic psychic.
Speaker 2: H it is one to one right now.
Speaker 6: Will you hold that? Will you hold? Was the pig's name, Peggy.
Speaker 2: Hogson?
Speaker 6: I thought it was a single mother with four kids.
Speaker 2: It was just going Paggy Hodgson.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, very strange coincidence. Just so we can see
Speaker 5: the full body like what it full.
Speaker 2: It's a little razzle dazzle.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's not like a planter's infection.
Speaker 2: Between red and white. You know. Mmm, okay, no debating,
Speaker 2: you already plant your case.
Speaker 3: That's actually campaigning.
Speaker 1: The two of you need to like whisper to each
Speaker 1: other and come up with a final answer for who
Speaker 1: is the psychic psychic for Ra's very great.
Speaker 2: Job, both of you. I mean it was a close call.
Speaker 2: Both of you did a very great job. Judges.
Speaker 3: It was a difficult decision because there is a lot
Speaker 3: of intuition up Truly, there is a lot of intuition
Speaker 3: getting thrown around up here, and it's gotten. I would
Speaker 3: even say five degrees Celsi is colder, right, since their
Speaker 3: power has been introduced. Yes, but I mean ultimately with
Speaker 3: the fact that Elmo and the Rabbit are both terrestrial, right,
Speaker 3: I mean Elmo's amphibious.
Speaker 2: But then.
Speaker 3: If you're going to his Wikipedia he was, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So who's winner? The winner is.
Speaker 5: Hands down, unanimously voted.
Speaker 3: We're going to need a reminder of the names Abby,
Speaker 3: just a refresher.
Speaker 2: Just to get Amanda, Abby, Amanda.
Speaker 3: We're going Amanda.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: All right, you did great, Amanda, you did great. Yes,
Speaker 3: look at that.
Speaker 1: Now you two have both one a framed polaroid picture
Speaker 1: of me, and you get the title of Roz's Sidekicks
Speaker 1: TI Sidekicks Vodkick for the night. Give it up for
Speaker 1: both of them. Thank you guys so much. Bye, smooches
Speaker 1: you guys. Did you have a good time tonight? I
Speaker 1: had so much fun. Thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: coming out. Can you one more time? Give it up
Speaker 1: for Karen and Chris and I hate to break the
Speaker 1: fourth wall, but Annabelle is actually played by the one
Speaker 1: and only Oscar Montoya. Two time guests have coasted from
Speaker 1: the television show meets.
Speaker 2: I Love You All, both living and dead, but if
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
Speaker 2: Gay bye. Ugh. That was magical.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Karen Chris and Annabelle aka
Speaker 1: Oscar Montoya. Thank you guys so much for listening. I
Speaker 1: hope to see you at one of these live shows
Speaker 1: one of these days. Who knows. I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: the plan is, but don't worry. I'm working on a plan.
Speaker 1: We'll figure out ways to do more of these somewhere somehow,
Speaker 1: because I just I had the time of my life
Speaker 1: and I owe it all to you.
Speaker 2: I love you all, both living and dead.
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
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Speaker 1: my senior producer.
Speaker 2: Is the startling Jiha Lee.
Speaker 1: Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chain. This episode was
Speaker 1: mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My
Speaker 1: guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support
Speaker 1: from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music
Speaker 1: is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by
Speaker 1: the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.
Speaker 1: Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia
Speaker 1: Hart Start and the frightening Danielle Kramer.