WEBVTT - Do you think he left a note? 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:08.479 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. O. J. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:14.080 Simpson died of cancer. It was breaking news on this 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:20.840 Thursday that the once famed football star from USC and 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:28.720 NFL and then turned football commentator commercial then obviously alleged 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:35.040 double murderer, that he was tried and acquitted very controversially, 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.479 but we all got it. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.080 It's hard to I'm listening to you say this, and 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:40.839 it's hard to sum up O. J. Simpson, isn't it? 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.320 I mean, and I don't mean in a way like no, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.440 I think you crushed it. It's just I'm seeing, you know, 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:49.040 the headlines are like what media, what headlines media are 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.919 choosing to put out or not or being like supported 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.920 or criticized. I mean, not that that's anything new, but 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.760 you know, I saw it was like OJ Simpson, former 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.880 NFL player who was acquitted of double murder dies like 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.320 it you know, you gotta you gotta address it all 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.199 a complicated legacy. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:10.119 And actually you have to say he was acquitted. It was, 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.080 you know, obviously the trial of the century. And you know, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:13.800 I don't know if you have. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.920 Seen him, what do you remember about it? Because I 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.160 don't remember. I mean, it wasn't what ninety six. I 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.040 was a kid. I was like eight nine years old. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:27.399 Maybe I was working. I was working in news, and 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.000 so what do you remember. I remember, I remember where 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:35.440 I was for the the infamous Bronco Chase, and I 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.119 you know, I was in Oklahoma City at the time. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.760 I was not out in La yet. I remember I 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:46.120 was at Bricktown Brewing Company. I was having dinner that night, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:51.360 and I remember that. Obviously, everything started quickly because we 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.000 didn't have social media, so your phone's not pinging, but 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.559 quickly all the networks started clicking over to the chase. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.480 And so you watched the Bronco Chase live on TV. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.160 It was air all of a sudden, sound up restaurant, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.160 deathly quiet, and we were just watching this for hours, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.960 just this is crazy. This is the craziest thing we 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.160 had ever seen. It captured the nation. It was just 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:20.400 watching this white Bronco go down the highways of southern 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.720 California and by now people had figured out where it 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.120 was going, and there's people on the overpasses waving, and 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:32.200 you're just like, what is this and how is this hero? 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.280 Because that's what OJ was. He was a cult hero. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.480 He was a football star in America and at the 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.000 time that was as big as you could get. That 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.360 was you might as well have been Robert de Niro 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.440 or you know some big movie star that was. You know, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.760 he was that man. He was a movie star. He 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.160 was a commentator, He was a football hero. He things. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.519 If you were to put it into today, like who 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.560 would be some of the names who, like that's the 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.000 level of fame and what people say fired to before 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:02.680 the murder case. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.480 That's a good question. Who has crossed over to be 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:06.240 that big? 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.079 So he I mean he was huge, yeah. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.040 Because I mean he was Heisman Trophy and he won. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.600 You know, he was he was a stud in college, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.840 but then he was a Hall of Famer and in 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.520 the pros and he was someone who made it to 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:23.200 that level. But then he made that leap to actor. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.560 He was in movies. He was in the Naked Gun movies. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:25.840 He was. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.160 He was a pitch man, the likes of which you 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.880 know Peyton Manning maybe that we see he was doing 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.280 all the commercials for Hertz rent of hers where he 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.040 was running through the airport and so he could pitch everything. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.680 He was a commentator on Monday night football and you 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.840 name it. So the guy was just untouchable and was 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:47.480 making millions of dollars and then he allegedly killed two 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.240 people in cold blood. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.760 I mean, I there are people are weighing in today, 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.960 by the way, people who were intimate. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.200 The Caitlyn Jenner thing was very interesting where she came 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.400 out and was like, good riddance. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.800 Was it that interesting? It didn't really surprise me. Well, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:08.840 I mean, but Kitlyn Jenner. Remember when Caitlyn was Bruce Schenner, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.800 married to Chris Jenner, and Chris Jenner's best friend was 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.440 Nicole Brown Simpson and Chris Jenner's husband Rob Kardashian. I mean, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.040 I can't even imagine the dynamics of that moment. Chris 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.479 Jenner's best friend was the woman who was murdered, but 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.000 they were like a couple friends. So her husband Rob 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.960 is part of OJ's defense team, Rob Kardashian, the attorney. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.120 I mean, I think Kaitlyn Jenner. Maybe what's interesting about 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:37.280 it is Kitlyn Jenner indicating obviously how Chris felt that 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:42.320 OJ was the guilty party here. Because Kaitlyn Jenner's tweet 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:47.200 was good riddance, OJ Simpson. You don't see anybody mourning 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.000 the loss very strongly today. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.320 Because we all look. I think if you if you 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.640 pulled America, those that were kind of into all of 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.880 that when it happened, I think ninety nine point nine 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.360 percent would say he's going and that he got away 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:07.040 with murder. And that's just conventional wisdom, and that's kind 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.280 I would bet on that I did. I was hosting 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.640 the View for a week and I did one particular 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.960 show with Chris Jenner and she was on and I 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.800 sat with her and Barbara Walters and I ran a 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.760 panel with Barbara and Chris on just that with the 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.039 murder and the trial, and and I would love to 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.080 go back and watch this now considering OJ's died. But 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.040 she was saying she walked in one day when OJ 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.200 was suicidal in her house and talked him out of it, 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:40.200 and Robert Kardashian was there. So just fascinating history. I 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.880 would love to sit down and talk more with her now. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:47.640 And here's my other question. Did OJ leave a note? 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.520 Did he leave a note in a vault safety depositals? 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.440 Oh, you mean that he's just now that he's died 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:53.400 to come clean? 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.159 Did yeah, now that he's died, you know, because I 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.120 was texting some of my friends this morning of like, 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.200 I guess we'll never know. I mean I think no, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.479 but I guess we'll never really know. But do you 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:03.560 think he will in the. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:05.599 Because I don't think he's that good of a person 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.120 and I don't know him obviously. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:08.880 I never met him either. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.479 By the way, every interview I've ever seen with him, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.640 he comes across very egotistical. And I think Caitlyn Jenner 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.200 actually had said in her memoir he was the most 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.800 narcissistic person she'd ever seen in the world of sports, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.480 and Kitlyn Jenner said quote, I believe he got away 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.560 with two savage murders. I don't think when you're that 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.320 egocentric you do the right thing in the end and 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:32.840 come clean. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.560 I know you were young, but like you've watched a 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:36.720 lot of the stuff, and you know what. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.320 I watched, which was the I mean, there's so many 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.520 interview clips out there you almost can't even like you 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.159 said stuff like you doing that viewpanel that I don't 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.400 even know where all the footage is because in social media, 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.279 if it had been posted, it would live on. But 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:53.279 I watched the American Crime Story scripted show, which was 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.159 kind of me realizing what it was all really like 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:58.960 and I think that was the best version of American 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.880 Crime Story that Ryan Murphy done. That was such a 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.279 great show with like David Swimmer, that put in perspective 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:05.880 for me kind of oh, here's what it was, like, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.039 I mean, so fascinating. I think that trial also is 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.560 memorialized for all of us because of like like it 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.000 being the first time people really talked about DNA and 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.480 and the kind of infamous part of how like they 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.840 had to explain to the jury what DNA was and 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.000 people didn't really understand it at the time, and maybe 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.320 that was part of the reason that he wasn't convicted. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.560 And yeah, the celebrity of it, the fact that it 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.280 was like the first trial that was like broadcast twenty 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.440 four to seven everywhere. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.280 Judge Edo, I mean to this day, you know the characters, 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:35.000 you know their names. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.440 Yeah, I did it when the American Crime Story came out, 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.160 and I went and did a sit down interview with 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:45.480 the second like chair prosecuting attorney because he'd sense like 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.840 written books about it. And what was sort of sad 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:53.240 about that situation is it's such a defining trial for him, right, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.240 I mean, he was a lawyer who just kind of 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.160 got us and it becomes this thing that's with you 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.040 for your life. That's kind of my like worst fear 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.160 Sometimes I can't believe I'm saying this out loud, but 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:09.000 like that something would be so intense that it would 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.960 define an effect right the rest of your life in 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.160 a way that's out of your control. And you know, 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.320 sometimes I really truly think, well, I mean, like my 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:19.880 dad died and that was out of my control and 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.920 that affected me. So you know, you can survive things, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.560 but those experiences like that makes or breaks you as 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.000 a person. Is how do you move forward? 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.800 And there's two two scenarios, One where you have kind 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.760 of done it to yourself and you're paying the price, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.960 and another when it's done to you or it happens 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.240 around you. Right, Like I think of like a Pete Rose, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.200 for example, who gambled on baseball and has been banned 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:43.520 for life, and like that one incident clouded everything that 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.319 ever happened after that, and he was one of the 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.080 greatest baseball players of all time, and now he's not 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:48.640 in the Hall of Fame and he's not in you know, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.360 those types of things that define you forever, and that 0:08:52.440 --> 0:09:01.240 OJ umbrella definitely covered so many lives. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.520 People who were murdered horribly and yeah, I mean the houseboy, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.520 oh right, and all these minor characters in. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.080 Yes, I mean just all these names are coming back 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.040 to me. It's like these were household names and it 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.680 really did define these people for the rest of their lives. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.640 I mean, I remember Kato was doing reality TV for 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.800 a while because it's like, what do you do now? 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.760 Marcia Clark was the big attorney that you're talking about. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.120 And you know what, I don't think that. I'm not 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:30.000 sure that something has that capability today. I think that 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:35.720 it's very hard to get the entire eyes of the 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.080 nation today for anything, really, you know what I mean, Like, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:43.400 I don't think like, Okay, the Johnny Depp amber Herd trial, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.360 that's probably the biggest celebrity trial that happened so recently, 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.000 and definitely a lot of people were watching that, and 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.120 like I kind of remember like Depth's attorney, but I 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.440 don't remember, like, and that is much more recent and 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.600 I was watching it, but I don't remember the judge. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.080 I don't really remember Amber's attorney, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.040 I don't think. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.319 That like a Michael Jackson dying that I felt like. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.599 Well, I'm saying, I'm saying it's hard to capture everybody's 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.520 attention for a long time in an unforgettable way on 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.040 that level today. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.040 And this thing. Maybe it's also because yeah, I agree 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.040 the timing social media today, I think it would we 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.480 would find a way, because that's what our media does now. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.800 We would find a way to divide the nation over this, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:35.000 and I can't see it unified us, but it definitely 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.640 brought us all together. We were just watching it unfold, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.559 whereas now we would all be taking sides and saying 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.920 what we want on social media and getting after each other, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.120 and it would be divisive, which is that's kind of 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:48.200 the way things go now. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.520 All right, onto a little bit of a lighter headline, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.800 the return of melrose Place, but by the way, lighter, 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.920 but also back to the nineties. So melrose Place is 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.199 coming back in a reboot. This is another one. I 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.240 don't remember melrose Place. I gotta be honest. My instant 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.120 reaction to this was like, I don't know if this 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.280 is going to do well. I thought we were past 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.360 the reboots, Like, remember, there's just been so many and 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.840 they have not all hit like Murphy Brown got rebooted. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.760 I didn't see an episode of it. Does anybody remember it? 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.280 Like the Will and Grace reboot did pretty well. The 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.120 Sex and the City reboot has done well but been 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.559 very panned. Do are people going to watch a Melrose 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.040 Place reboot? Maybe I'm underestimating how big it was. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.360 Here's why they're not the audience that you're hoping to capture. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:58.719 They are now in their fifties and sixties. It's you know, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.240 it's it was kind of generation right, kind of came 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.079 off of nine O two one zero, then we had 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:08.680 Melrose Place. So you're talking about the Heather locklears, Andrew 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:09.040 Schue and. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.200 Like, yeah, and by the way, Heather Lockleyer, Laura Leyton, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.080 and Daphne's Zuniga are all set to return. The only 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.600 name I know there is Heather Lockley. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.520 D Zuniga was the other blonde. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:19.080 Okay. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.920 And it's one of those things. And I don't want 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.480 to be poo poo on this, but it's like, who 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.719 asked for this? I don't know who is clamoring for this. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.680 I don't think it's a vehicle that fifty and sixty 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.880 year old people are dying because the whole thing. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.400 Was about like sexy drama in Melrose Place, right, And 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.760 I'm not saying these people aren't sexy now. I'm just saying, like, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.559 much like how Sex and the City came back, and 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.640 the creators kept saying, it's a different show. They're not 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.840 in their thirties looking for love anymore. And I think 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.760 that's why people have struggled a little bit with the 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.800 new version, because they loved what Sex and the City was. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.240 Right, and you can't recapture that well, right. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.520 And that's the question is like, how do you do it? 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.320 Do you do it in the right way? I think 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.640 for sure the new Sex and the City damaged the 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.880 legacy of the original Sex in the City a little bit, 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.520 and it has done kind of well, it's not that 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.880 it's bombed. They've done they're on like season three now, 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.960 but it's certainly been panned. And I just to me 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.800 when I read this headline Melrose Place reboot is in 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.560 the works. What I read there is executives operating from 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.800 a place of fear the everyone and it continues to 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:34.600 blow my mind about our industry. Barbie new original idea. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.079 Maybe part of the problem is that executives see it 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.800 as some kind of reboot, but it wasn't. It's just 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.760 they used the idea of the doll Barbie, but new 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:48.480 original idea crushed it at the box office. Oppenheimer. Okay, yes, 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.240 it was based on a true story, but like it 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.840 was a new thing. There wasn't any old Oppenheimer they 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.800 were redoing. So I don't know why they don't learn 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.880 from these great new shows and continue to like turn 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.760 to new voices and new ideas and make new things. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.320 They are all operating from this base of fear that 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.520 they've just got to just go with what was a 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.720 hit because the industry is in such trouble. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.720 Well, I don't get it. I totally agree. And who 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.800 knows how this stuff gets done in our industry. And 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.800 that's you know, we'll never know the real story if 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.120 it's a friend of a friend or someone. But more 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:24.600 than likely there is an unbelievably uncreative executive who, as 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.160 you said, is working out of fear and thought this 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.680 will pass. I can get this through the meeting tomorrow. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:39.000 Just look at the success of television. What is huge. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:45.200 The bear completely original Showgun is on right now. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:46.400 Oh, we're obsessed with the show. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.440 Believably obsessed and incredible. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.479 If you're not watching, it's so good. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.480 Yellowstone and you can say the timing of Yellowstone it 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.360 was very much helped by COVID and that's very true. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.920 But still think of this, think of the recent success 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.440 is that people have been obsessed with squid Game. All 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:08.080 these like there are these are original ideas that people 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.160 took a chance on and they have hit ted Lasso, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:17.280 original idea that was a massive success. So tell me 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:21.800 the last reboot that crushed. And it's funny that these 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:26.360 executives think it's safe when actually it's a disaster. It's 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.120 quicksand executive after executive has gone back into the well. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.120 The proof is in the pudding. Yeah, creativity is winning. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.200 That's what everybody's obsessed with. And I know it's hard 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.360 out there. I know it's hard to find that ted Lasso. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.160 They don't just grow on trees. You gotta work for 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.400 them and you have to throw a lot of pasta 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.600 against the wall before something sticks. But man, it pays 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.960 off when you go for the creative outlet because those 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.320 are the home runs. What will not be a home 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.840 run is Melrose two point zero. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.160 I mean I won't and I think that they continue 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.320 to make the mistake. And it's like the writer of 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.120 that movie American Fiction said at the Oscars this year. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.800 He said, I just wish, you know, instead of making 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.440 one two hundred million dollar movie, can you make twenty 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:18.680 ten million dollar movies? And it's true, like like look 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.800 at anyone but you. The rom com was Sidney Sweeney 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:25.760 and Glen Powell new idea. They just went back to 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.480 the romcom genre. But that wasn't based on anything. It 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.400 wasn't a sequel or I guess it was loosely based 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:36.200 on How Much Ado About Nothing? But like that, App's 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:40.600 a cheaply made movie that absolutely dominated at the box 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.600 office and made so much money, and I just wish 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.360 that again. I think these executives are operating from a 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.640 place of fear and they end up spending a ton 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.280 of money on something that did well twenty years ago. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.160 And I will say, at the end of the day, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.800 for me, it's just also about quality. I could be 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.560 wrong because if this is done incredibly well, writing is 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.080 insanely good, if the acting is good, if it's just 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.760 great storytelling, well then I'm wrong and it could do 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:05.959 it well. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.320 What Melrose was there was and I'm not, you know, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.720 crapping on the old Melrose. It was campy. That's the 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.560 point is it was campy in the beginning, and it 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.879 was just it was this drama with these sexy people 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:23.719 living around a pool in this one make believe apartment complex. Uh, 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.520 and the drama ensues and so it was never like 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.399 this really deep. It wasn't West Wing esque, where you know, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:34.080 you had these unbelievable writers creating you know, Aaron Sorkin. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.000 But the other thing is, I do think we need 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:42.359 to differentiate the movie business versus TV. In the movie world, 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.960 sequels work top Gun Maverick, you know, the sequels work. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.760 I don't think they work as well in TV because 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.120 I think once you've exhausted that idea, you know, ted 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.280 Lasso two, you either keep ted Lasso going or it's done. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.040 And so I think you know that that those two 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:02.600 industries are pretty different. 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:19.280 One more headline in the movie and TV world, Megan Markle, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:24.160 the Duchess of Sussex and Prince Harry launching two new 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.199 non fiction series at Netflix featuring and Chris hasn't heard this. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:32.000 I'm just breaking the news to him right now, Featuring Cooking, Gardening, 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:38.200 and professional polo. Now, as I sit here and having 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.960 just said please no more reboots, I will say what 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:46.879 seems like a layup to me is new episodes of 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.440 the show Suits. That show has crushed in the rewatch 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.480 on Netflix. And maybe I should note no one's rewatching 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.439 and binging Melrose Place. Okay. If Netflix did more Suits 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.800 right now, that feels smart to me because it's like 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.480 the number one show on Netflix. People have rediscovered that show. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.560 It's not that old. All the cast members are still around, 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:11.720 and I think ready and available. Give us more Suits instead. 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:13.200 I don't know why they. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.440 Don't need Megan Markele Gardening. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.520 The first series. We'll see the Duchess exactly what you said, 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.000 otherwise known as Megan Markle's celebrating the joys of cooking, gardening, 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.080 entertaining and friendship. 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.880 This is, as the kids would say, this is so cringe. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.040 Do they have an overall deal that they had to 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:32.159 like getre care But they. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.399 Definitely did because they did the docu series, so they 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.840 did an overall deal with Netflix. They did a deal 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:37.560 with Spotify. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.560 Okay, so in all seriousness, maybe Netflix had to put something. 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.280 Well, they've got to do something as a. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.480 Promise and they can't just like maybe they had to 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.879 promise something else, you know what I mean. Some of 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.600 these deals are you can produce or we will take 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.879 you first look deals. There are other things where we 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:57.080 will put a show on the air with you on it. 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.760 That is really the only explanation because no one in 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.000 their right mind is going to put this on television. 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.040 Well, she's definitely trying to kind of go the Gwyneth 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.920 Paltrow Paltrow Goop route because she's like launching this new 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:14.600 lifestyle brand, which she announced to much response of like 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.639 whether it was smart or totally insensitive, but she like 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.760 announced it when all the Kate Middleton stuff was happening, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:27.200 and I just megan, you've got to hit on your 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.840 hands with suits. I hope that's in the works. Give 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:34.880 us more suits. Get back to acting. The second series. 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:35.880 Oh good, there's more. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.880 Well, remember I mentioned polo and I'll tell you right now, 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.640 don't listen, I'm breaking the news to you. Hold your opinions. 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.200 The second series follows the world of professional polo okay, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:50.280 shot primarily at the US Open Polo Championship. The series 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.800 will explore the world of the sport, which is known 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.720 for its esthetic and social scene. I'm thinking of that 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.159 scene in A Pretty Woman. It will pull the curtain 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.160 back on the grit and passion of the sport. Now, 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.520 this could be if it's done right, I might be in. 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.879 If this is fault there's a lot of money in polo, 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.480 a lot of fashion, a lot of like, uh you know, 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.400 sort of old world rules and like and and and 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:20.400 social climbing. If this is like US, a drama reality 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.680 show about the world of polo, I might be interested. 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.679 I one hundred percent agree. Okay, this has the but 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:26.440 here's how it went. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.440 But I don't think it's It doesn't sound like it's 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:29.440