Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. O. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson died of cancer. It was breaking news on this
Speaker 1: Thursday that the once famed football star from USC and
Speaker 1: NFL and then turned football commentator commercial then obviously alleged
Speaker 1: double murderer, that he was tried and acquitted very controversially,
Speaker 1: but we all got it.
Speaker 2: It's hard to I'm listening to you say this, and
Speaker 2: it's hard to sum up O. J. Simpson, isn't it?
Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't mean in a way like no,
Speaker 2: I think you crushed it. It's just I'm seeing, you know,
Speaker 2: the headlines are like what media, what headlines media are
Speaker 2: choosing to put out or not or being like supported
Speaker 2: or criticized. I mean, not that that's anything new, but
Speaker 2: you know, I saw it was like OJ Simpson, former
Speaker 2: NFL player who was acquitted of double murder dies like
Speaker 2: it you know, you gotta you gotta address it all
Speaker 2: a complicated legacy.
Speaker 1: And actually you have to say he was acquitted. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the trial of the century. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have.
Speaker 2: Seen him, what do you remember about it? Because I
Speaker 2: don't remember. I mean, it wasn't what ninety six. I
Speaker 2: was a kid. I was like eight nine years old.
Speaker 1: Maybe I was working. I was working in news, and
Speaker 1: so what do you remember. I remember, I remember where
Speaker 1: I was for the the infamous Bronco Chase, and I
Speaker 1: you know, I was in Oklahoma City at the time.
Speaker 1: I was not out in La yet. I remember I
Speaker 1: was at Bricktown Brewing Company. I was having dinner that night,
Speaker 1: and I remember that. Obviously, everything started quickly because we
Speaker 1: didn't have social media, so your phone's not pinging, but
Speaker 1: quickly all the networks started clicking over to the chase.
Speaker 2: And so you watched the Bronco Chase live on TV.
Speaker 1: It was air all of a sudden, sound up restaurant,
Speaker 1: deathly quiet, and we were just watching this for hours,
Speaker 1: just this is crazy. This is the craziest thing we
Speaker 1: had ever seen. It captured the nation. It was just
Speaker 1: watching this white Bronco go down the highways of southern
Speaker 1: California and by now people had figured out where it
Speaker 1: was going, and there's people on the overpasses waving, and
Speaker 1: you're just like, what is this and how is this hero?
Speaker 1: Because that's what OJ was. He was a cult hero.
Speaker 1: He was a football star in America and at the
Speaker 1: time that was as big as you could get. That
Speaker 1: was you might as well have been Robert de Niro
Speaker 1: or you know some big movie star that was. You know,
Speaker 1: he was that man. He was a movie star. He
Speaker 1: was a commentator, He was a football hero. He things.
Speaker 2: If you were to put it into today, like who
Speaker 2: would be some of the names who, like that's the
Speaker 2: level of fame and what people say fired to before
Speaker 2: the murder case.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Who has crossed over to be
Speaker 1: that big?
Speaker 2: So he I mean he was huge, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I mean he was Heisman Trophy and he won.
Speaker 1: You know, he was he was a stud in college,
Speaker 1: but then he was a Hall of Famer and in
Speaker 1: the pros and he was someone who made it to
Speaker 1: that level. But then he made that leap to actor.
Speaker 1: He was in movies. He was in the Naked Gun movies.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: He was a pitch man, the likes of which you
Speaker 1: know Peyton Manning maybe that we see he was doing
Speaker 1: all the commercials for Hertz rent of hers where he
Speaker 1: was running through the airport and so he could pitch everything.
Speaker 1: He was a commentator on Monday night football and you
Speaker 1: name it. So the guy was just untouchable and was
Speaker 1: making millions of dollars and then he allegedly killed two
Speaker 1: people in cold blood.
Speaker 2: I mean, I there are people are weighing in today,
Speaker 2: by the way, people who were intimate.
Speaker 1: The Caitlyn Jenner thing was very interesting where she came
Speaker 1: out and was like, good riddance.
Speaker 2: Was it that interesting? It didn't really surprise me. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, but Kitlyn Jenner. Remember when Caitlyn was Bruce Schenner,
Speaker 2: married to Chris Jenner, and Chris Jenner's best friend was
Speaker 2: Nicole Brown Simpson and Chris Jenner's husband Rob Kardashian. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the dynamics of that moment. Chris
Speaker 2: Jenner's best friend was the woman who was murdered, but
Speaker 2: they were like a couple friends. So her husband Rob
Speaker 2: is part of OJ's defense team, Rob Kardashian, the attorney.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Kaitlyn Jenner. Maybe what's interesting about
Speaker 2: it is Kitlyn Jenner indicating obviously how Chris felt that
Speaker 2: OJ was the guilty party here. Because Kaitlyn Jenner's tweet
Speaker 2: was good riddance, OJ Simpson. You don't see anybody mourning
Speaker 2: the loss very strongly today.
Speaker 1: Because we all look. I think if you if you
Speaker 1: pulled America, those that were kind of into all of
Speaker 1: that when it happened, I think ninety nine point nine
Speaker 1: percent would say he's going and that he got away
Speaker 1: with murder. And that's just conventional wisdom, and that's kind
Speaker 1: I would bet on that I did. I was hosting
Speaker 1: the View for a week and I did one particular
Speaker 1: show with Chris Jenner and she was on and I
Speaker 1: sat with her and Barbara Walters and I ran a
Speaker 1: panel with Barbara and Chris on just that with the
Speaker 1: murder and the trial, and and I would love to
Speaker 1: go back and watch this now considering OJ's died. But
Speaker 1: she was saying she walked in one day when OJ
Speaker 1: was suicidal in her house and talked him out of it,
Speaker 1: and Robert Kardashian was there. So just fascinating history. I
Speaker 1: would love to sit down and talk more with her now.
Speaker 1: And here's my other question. Did OJ leave a note?
Speaker 1: Did he leave a note in a vault safety depositals?
Speaker 2: Oh, you mean that he's just now that he's died
Speaker 2: to come clean?
Speaker 1: Did yeah, now that he's died, you know, because I
Speaker 1: was texting some of my friends this morning of like,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll never know. I mean I think no,
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll never really know. But do you
Speaker 1: think he will in the.
Speaker 2: Because I don't think he's that good of a person
Speaker 2: and I don't know him obviously.
Speaker 1: I never met him either.
Speaker 2: By the way, every interview I've ever seen with him,
Speaker 2: he comes across very egotistical. And I think Caitlyn Jenner
Speaker 2: actually had said in her memoir he was the most
Speaker 2: narcissistic person she'd ever seen in the world of sports,
Speaker 2: and Kitlyn Jenner said quote, I believe he got away
Speaker 2: with two savage murders. I don't think when you're that
Speaker 2: egocentric you do the right thing in the end and
Speaker 2: come clean.
Speaker 1: I know you were young, but like you've watched a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff, and you know what.
Speaker 2: I watched, which was the I mean, there's so many
Speaker 2: interview clips out there you almost can't even like you
Speaker 2: said stuff like you doing that viewpanel that I don't
Speaker 2: even know where all the footage is because in social media,
Speaker 2: if it had been posted, it would live on. But
Speaker 2: I watched the American Crime Story scripted show, which was
Speaker 2: kind of me realizing what it was all really like
Speaker 2: and I think that was the best version of American
Speaker 2: Crime Story that Ryan Murphy done. That was such a
Speaker 2: great show with like David Swimmer, that put in perspective
Speaker 2: for me kind of oh, here's what it was, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, so fascinating. I think that trial also is
Speaker 2: memorialized for all of us because of like like it
Speaker 2: being the first time people really talked about DNA and
Speaker 2: and the kind of infamous part of how like they
Speaker 2: had to explain to the jury what DNA was and
Speaker 2: people didn't really understand it at the time, and maybe
Speaker 2: that was part of the reason that he wasn't convicted.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the celebrity of it, the fact that it
Speaker 2: was like the first trial that was like broadcast twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven everywhere.
Speaker 1: Judge Edo, I mean to this day, you know the characters,
Speaker 1: you know their names.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it when the American Crime Story came out,
Speaker 2: and I went and did a sit down interview with
Speaker 2: the second like chair prosecuting attorney because he'd sense like
Speaker 2: written books about it. And what was sort of sad
Speaker 2: about that situation is it's such a defining trial for him, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a lawyer who just kind of
Speaker 2: got us and it becomes this thing that's with you
Speaker 2: for your life. That's kind of my like worst fear
Speaker 2: Sometimes I can't believe I'm saying this out loud, but
Speaker 2: like that something would be so intense that it would
Speaker 2: define an effect right the rest of your life in
Speaker 2: a way that's out of your control. And you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes I really truly think, well, I mean, like my
Speaker 2: dad died and that was out of my control and
Speaker 2: that affected me. So you know, you can survive things,
Speaker 2: but those experiences like that makes or breaks you as
Speaker 2: a person. Is how do you move forward?
Speaker 1: And there's two two scenarios, One where you have kind
Speaker 1: of done it to yourself and you're paying the price,
Speaker 1: and another when it's done to you or it happens
Speaker 1: around you. Right, Like I think of like a Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: for example, who gambled on baseball and has been banned
Speaker 1: for life, and like that one incident clouded everything that
Speaker 1: ever happened after that, and he was one of the
Speaker 1: greatest baseball players of all time, and now he's not
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and he's not in you know,
Speaker 1: those types of things that define you forever, and that
Speaker 1: OJ umbrella definitely covered so many lives.
Speaker 2: People who were murdered horribly and yeah, I mean the houseboy,
Speaker 2: oh right, and all these minor characters in.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean just all these names are coming back
Speaker 1: to me. It's like these were household names and it
Speaker 1: really did define these people for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember Kato was doing reality TV for
Speaker 1: a while because it's like, what do you do now?
Speaker 1: Marcia Clark was the big attorney that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I don't think that. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure that something has that capability today. I think that
Speaker 2: it's very hard to get the entire eyes of the
Speaker 2: nation today for anything, really, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think like, Okay, the Johnny Depp amber Herd trial,
Speaker 2: that's probably the biggest celebrity trial that happened so recently,
Speaker 2: and definitely a lot of people were watching that, and
Speaker 2: like I kind of remember like Depth's attorney, but I
Speaker 2: don't remember, like, and that is much more recent and
Speaker 2: I was watching it, but I don't remember the judge.
Speaker 2: I don't really remember Amber's attorney, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: That like a Michael Jackson dying that I felt like.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying, I'm saying it's hard to capture everybody's
Speaker 2: attention for a long time in an unforgettable way on
Speaker 2: that level today.
Speaker 1: And this thing. Maybe it's also because yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: the timing social media today, I think it would we
Speaker 1: would find a way, because that's what our media does now.
Speaker 1: We would find a way to divide the nation over this,
Speaker 1: and I can't see it unified us, but it definitely
Speaker 1: brought us all together. We were just watching it unfold,
Speaker 1: whereas now we would all be taking sides and saying
Speaker 1: what we want on social media and getting after each other,
Speaker 1: and it would be divisive, which is that's kind of
Speaker 1: the way things go now.
Speaker 2: All right, onto a little bit of a lighter headline,
Speaker 2: the return of melrose Place, but by the way, lighter,
Speaker 2: but also back to the nineties. So melrose Place is
Speaker 2: coming back in a reboot. This is another one. I
Speaker 2: don't remember melrose Place. I gotta be honest. My instant
Speaker 2: reaction to this was like, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is going to do well. I thought we were past
Speaker 2: the reboots, Like, remember, there's just been so many and
Speaker 2: they have not all hit like Murphy Brown got rebooted.
Speaker 2: I didn't see an episode of it. Does anybody remember it?
Speaker 2: Like the Will and Grace reboot did pretty well. The
Speaker 2: Sex and the City reboot has done well but been
Speaker 2: very panned. Do are people going to watch a Melrose
Speaker 2: Place reboot? Maybe I'm underestimating how big it was.
Speaker 1: Here's why they're not the audience that you're hoping to capture.
Speaker 1: They are now in their fifties and sixties. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's it was kind of generation right, kind of came
Speaker 1: off of nine O two one zero, then we had
Speaker 1: Melrose Place. So you're talking about the Heather locklears, Andrew
Speaker 1: Schue and.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, and by the way, Heather Lockleyer, Laura Leyton,
Speaker 2: and Daphne's Zuniga are all set to return. The only
Speaker 2: name I know there is Heather Lockley.
Speaker 1: D Zuniga was the other blonde.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to be poo poo on this, but it's like, who
Speaker 1: asked for this? I don't know who is clamoring for this.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a vehicle that fifty and sixty
Speaker 1: year old people are dying because the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Was about like sexy drama in Melrose Place, right, And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying these people aren't sexy now. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: much like how Sex and the City came back, and
Speaker 2: the creators kept saying, it's a different show. They're not
Speaker 2: in their thirties looking for love anymore. And I think
Speaker 2: that's why people have struggled a little bit with the
Speaker 2: new version, because they loved what Sex and the City was.
Speaker 1: Right, and you can't recapture that well, right.
Speaker 2: And that's the question is like, how do you do it?
Speaker 2: Do you do it in the right way? I think
Speaker 2: for sure the new Sex and the City damaged the
Speaker 2: legacy of the original Sex in the City a little bit,
Speaker 2: and it has done kind of well, it's not that
Speaker 2: it's bombed. They've done they're on like season three now,
Speaker 2: but it's certainly been panned. And I just to me
Speaker 2: when I read this headline Melrose Place reboot is in
Speaker 2: the works. What I read there is executives operating from
Speaker 2: a place of fear the everyone and it continues to
Speaker 2: blow my mind about our industry. Barbie new original idea.
Speaker 2: Maybe part of the problem is that executives see it
Speaker 2: as some kind of reboot, but it wasn't. It's just
Speaker 2: they used the idea of the doll Barbie, but new
Speaker 2: original idea crushed it at the box office. Oppenheimer. Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: it was based on a true story, but like it
Speaker 2: was a new thing. There wasn't any old Oppenheimer they
Speaker 2: were redoing. So I don't know why they don't learn
Speaker 2: from these great new shows and continue to like turn
Speaker 2: to new voices and new ideas and make new things.
Speaker 2: They are all operating from this base of fear that
Speaker 2: they've just got to just go with what was a
Speaker 2: hit because the industry is in such trouble.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't get it. I totally agree. And who
Speaker 1: knows how this stuff gets done in our industry. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, we'll never know the real story if
Speaker 1: it's a friend of a friend or someone. But more
Speaker 1: than likely there is an unbelievably uncreative executive who, as
Speaker 1: you said, is working out of fear and thought this
Speaker 1: will pass. I can get this through the meeting tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Just look at the success of television. What is huge.
Speaker 1: The bear completely original Showgun is on right now.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're obsessed with the show.
Speaker 1: Believably obsessed and incredible.
Speaker 2: If you're not watching, it's so good.
Speaker 1: Yellowstone and you can say the timing of Yellowstone it
Speaker 1: was very much helped by COVID and that's very true.
Speaker 1: But still think of this, think of the recent success
Speaker 1: is that people have been obsessed with squid Game. All
Speaker 1: these like there are these are original ideas that people
Speaker 1: took a chance on and they have hit ted Lasso,
Speaker 1: original idea that was a massive success. So tell me
Speaker 1: the last reboot that crushed. And it's funny that these
Speaker 1: executives think it's safe when actually it's a disaster. It's
Speaker 1: quicksand executive after executive has gone back into the well.
Speaker 1: The proof is in the pudding. Yeah, creativity is winning.
Speaker 1: That's what everybody's obsessed with. And I know it's hard
Speaker 1: out there. I know it's hard to find that ted Lasso.
Speaker 1: They don't just grow on trees. You gotta work for
Speaker 1: them and you have to throw a lot of pasta
Speaker 1: against the wall before something sticks. But man, it pays
Speaker 1: off when you go for the creative outlet because those
Speaker 1: are the home runs. What will not be a home
Speaker 1: run is Melrose two point zero.
Speaker 2: I mean I won't and I think that they continue
Speaker 2: to make the mistake. And it's like the writer of
Speaker 2: that movie American Fiction said at the Oscars this year.
Speaker 2: He said, I just wish, you know, instead of making
Speaker 2: one two hundred million dollar movie, can you make twenty
Speaker 2: ten million dollar movies? And it's true, like like look
Speaker 2: at anyone but you. The rom com was Sidney Sweeney
Speaker 2: and Glen Powell new idea. They just went back to
Speaker 2: the romcom genre. But that wasn't based on anything. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a sequel or I guess it was loosely based
Speaker 2: on How Much Ado About Nothing? But like that, App's
Speaker 2: a cheaply made movie that absolutely dominated at the box
Speaker 2: office and made so much money, and I just wish
Speaker 2: that again. I think these executives are operating from a
Speaker 2: place of fear and they end up spending a ton
Speaker 2: of money on something that did well twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: And I will say, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: for me, it's just also about quality. I could be
Speaker 2: wrong because if this is done incredibly well, writing is
Speaker 2: insanely good, if the acting is good, if it's just
Speaker 2: great storytelling, well then I'm wrong and it could do
Speaker 2: it well.
Speaker 1: What Melrose was there was and I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: crapping on the old Melrose. It was campy. That's the
Speaker 1: point is it was campy in the beginning, and it
Speaker 1: was just it was this drama with these sexy people
Speaker 1: living around a pool in this one make believe apartment complex. Uh,
Speaker 1: and the drama ensues and so it was never like
Speaker 1: this really deep. It wasn't West Wing esque, where you know,
Speaker 1: you had these unbelievable writers creating you know, Aaron Sorkin.
Speaker 1: But the other thing is, I do think we need
Speaker 1: to differentiate the movie business versus TV. In the movie world,
Speaker 1: sequels work top Gun Maverick, you know, the sequels work.
Speaker 1: I don't think they work as well in TV because
Speaker 1: I think once you've exhausted that idea, you know, ted
Speaker 1: Lasso two, you either keep ted Lasso going or it's done.
Speaker 1: And so I think you know that that those two
Speaker 1: industries are pretty different.
Speaker 2: One more headline in the movie and TV world, Megan Markle,
Speaker 2: the Duchess of Sussex and Prince Harry launching two new
Speaker 2: non fiction series at Netflix featuring and Chris hasn't heard this.
Speaker 2: I'm just breaking the news to him right now, Featuring Cooking, Gardening,
Speaker 2: and professional polo. Now, as I sit here and having
Speaker 2: just said please no more reboots, I will say what
Speaker 2: seems like a layup to me is new episodes of
Speaker 2: the show Suits. That show has crushed in the rewatch
Speaker 2: on Netflix. And maybe I should note no one's rewatching
Speaker 2: and binging Melrose Place. Okay. If Netflix did more Suits
Speaker 2: right now, that feels smart to me because it's like
Speaker 2: the number one show on Netflix. People have rediscovered that show.
Speaker 2: It's not that old. All the cast members are still around,
Speaker 2: and I think ready and available. Give us more Suits instead.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they.
Speaker 1: Don't need Megan Markele Gardening.
Speaker 2: The first series. We'll see the Duchess exactly what you said,
Speaker 2: otherwise known as Megan Markle's celebrating the joys of cooking, gardening,
Speaker 2: entertaining and friendship.
Speaker 1: This is, as the kids would say, this is so cringe.
Speaker 1: Do they have an overall deal that they had to
Speaker 1: like getre care But they.
Speaker 2: Definitely did because they did the docu series, so they
Speaker 2: did an overall deal with Netflix. They did a deal
Speaker 2: with Spotify.
Speaker 1: Okay, so in all seriousness, maybe Netflix had to put something.
Speaker 2: Well, they've got to do something as a.
Speaker 1: Promise and they can't just like maybe they had to
Speaker 1: promise something else, you know what I mean. Some of
Speaker 1: these deals are you can produce or we will take
Speaker 1: you first look deals. There are other things where we
Speaker 1: will put a show on the air with you on it.
Speaker 1: That is really the only explanation because no one in
Speaker 1: their right mind is going to put this on television.
Speaker 2: Well, she's definitely trying to kind of go the Gwyneth
Speaker 2: Paltrow Paltrow Goop route because she's like launching this new
Speaker 2: lifestyle brand, which she announced to much response of like
Speaker 2: whether it was smart or totally insensitive, but she like
Speaker 2: announced it when all the Kate Middleton stuff was happening,
Speaker 2: and I just megan, you've got to hit on your
Speaker 2: hands with suits. I hope that's in the works. Give
Speaker 2: us more suits. Get back to acting. The second series.
Speaker 1: Oh good, there's more.
Speaker 2: Well, remember I mentioned polo and I'll tell you right now,
Speaker 2: don't listen, I'm breaking the news to you. Hold your opinions.
Speaker 2: The second series follows the world of professional polo okay,
Speaker 2: shot primarily at the US Open Polo Championship. The series
Speaker 2: will explore the world of the sport, which is known
Speaker 2: for its esthetic and social scene. I'm thinking of that
Speaker 2: scene in A Pretty Woman. It will pull the curtain
Speaker 2: back on the grit and passion of the sport. Now,
Speaker 2: this could be if it's done right, I might be in.
Speaker 2: If this is fault there's a lot of money in polo,
Speaker 2: a lot of fashion, a lot of like, uh you know,
Speaker 2: sort of old world rules and like and and and
Speaker 2: social climbing. If this is like US, a drama reality
Speaker 2: show about the world of polo, I might be interested.
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree. Okay, this has the but
Speaker 1: here's how it went.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's It doesn't sound like it's
Speaker 2: gonna involve Harry and Meghan.
Speaker 1: It would be amazing if this was a gritty pull
Speaker 1: back the curtains like vander pump Polo. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: the Hamptons on steroids, I mean the world of polo,
Speaker 1: a professional polo. I can only imagine the amount of
Speaker 1: money and the people who are involved. If you really
Speaker 1: want to expose this, it would be incredible. My guess
Speaker 1: if Megan is involved, it won't be that. It will
Speaker 1: be kind of a glorified look at the world of polo.
Speaker 1: And so my hope is here. My expectations are down here.
Speaker 1: But you're right, it could be a great expose, but
Speaker 1: it won't be.
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is they've had mixed success at Netflix.
Speaker 2: The docuseries did well, but then they also I'm reading
Speaker 2: this from this article on Deadline which broke the news.
Speaker 2: The pair have also made for Netflix Live to lead
Speaker 2: an interview series featuring the likes of Glorious Steinem I
Speaker 2: don't remember that, and Harry's Herd of Invictus documentary series
Speaker 2: launched last year, which he does do great work, great
Speaker 2: charity work with that, but I didn't watch it, and
Speaker 2: I don't remember people talking about it. So we'll see
Speaker 2: mixed results at Netflix. And look, I'm not panning them.
Speaker 2: You and I are in the production world. It's tough
Speaker 2: out there right now. It's not but easy. But like
Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan, certainly from Harry's fame and growing up
Speaker 2: in the spotlight, were certainly handed a lot of incredible
Speaker 2: deals at Netflix at Spotify which they didn't really have
Speaker 2: like the professional experience to back up. I'm just being honest, like,
Speaker 2: and I think that's why, like netflick or Megan's podcast
Speaker 2: didn't really work that well. She had never done anything
Speaker 2: like that before, and Harry and her had are very
Speaker 2: new to the world of production, so they've got incredible
Speaker 2: opportunity on their hands. I hope that for these new
Speaker 2: projects they have the teams and the people, and that
Speaker 2: they listen to those people to like make good content,
Speaker 2: because I am behind content doing well. It benefits us
Speaker 2: all when people succeed and when shows succeed, in movies succeed.
Speaker 2: But right now, I feel like they've done very little,
Speaker 2: even though they've been handed a lot of opportunity.
Speaker 1: I agree. I concur with all of that. It is
Speaker 1: virtually impossible to get a television show, an idea sold,
Speaker 1: made and on the air. It always has been difficult,
Speaker 1: It's always been a monumental task, but today in this environment,
Speaker 1: it's even harder. And look, I don't begrudge them for
Speaker 1: using their connections to get this done. That's also how
Speaker 1: the industry. Yeah, that's how the industry works. But to
Speaker 1: this point, nothing has borne fruit other than obviously the
Speaker 1: original thing where we wanted to hear them speak. Other
Speaker 1: than that, nothing creative has really come out of it
Speaker 1: that's been successful. So and I know Netflix has kind
Speaker 1: of they'll either so far, they've been in albatross around
Speaker 1: Netflix's neck. We'll see if it changes with these ideas.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it will, but I wish them well.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, thank you so much for being with
Speaker 2: us here today and speaking of as Chris and I
Speaker 2: said here and talk about production. I know we've heard
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