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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. O. J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson died of cancer. It was breaking news on this

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Speaker 1: Thursday that the once famed football star from USC and

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Speaker 1: NFL and then turned football commentator commercial then obviously alleged

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Speaker 1: double murderer, that he was tried and acquitted very controversially,

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Speaker 1: but we all got it.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to I'm listening to you say this, and

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Speaker 2: it's hard to sum up O. J. Simpson, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't mean in a way like no,

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Speaker 2: I think you crushed it. It's just I'm seeing, you know,

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Speaker 2: the headlines are like what media, what headlines media are

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Speaker 2: choosing to put out or not or being like supported

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Speaker 2: or criticized. I mean, not that that's anything new, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I saw it was like OJ Simpson, former

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Speaker 2: NFL player who was acquitted of double murder dies like

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Speaker 2: it you know, you gotta you gotta address it all

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Speaker 2: a complicated legacy.

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Speaker 1: And actually you have to say he was acquitted. It was,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously the trial of the century. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have.

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Speaker 2: Seen him, what do you remember about it? Because I

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Speaker 2: don't remember. I mean, it wasn't what ninety six. I

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Speaker 2: was a kid. I was like eight nine years old.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I was working. I was working in news, and

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Speaker 1: so what do you remember. I remember, I remember where

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Speaker 1: I was for the the infamous Bronco Chase, and I

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Speaker 1: you know, I was in Oklahoma City at the time.

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Speaker 1: I was not out in La yet. I remember I

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Speaker 1: was at Bricktown Brewing Company. I was having dinner that night,

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Speaker 1: and I remember that. Obviously, everything started quickly because we

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Speaker 1: didn't have social media, so your phone's not pinging, but

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Speaker 1: quickly all the networks started clicking over to the chase.

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Speaker 2: And so you watched the Bronco Chase live on TV.

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Speaker 1: It was air all of a sudden, sound up restaurant,

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Speaker 1: deathly quiet, and we were just watching this for hours,

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Speaker 1: just this is crazy. This is the craziest thing we

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Speaker 1: had ever seen. It captured the nation. It was just

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Speaker 1: was going, and there's people on the overpasses waving, and

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Speaker 1: you're just like, what is this and how is this hero?

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Speaker 1: Because that's what OJ was. He was a cult hero.

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Speaker 1: He was a football star in America and at the

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Speaker 1: time that was as big as you could get. That

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Speaker 1: was you might as well have been Robert de Niro

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Speaker 1: or you know some big movie star that was. You know,

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Speaker 1: he was that man. He was a movie star. He

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Speaker 1: was a commentator, He was a football hero. He things.

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Speaker 2: If you were to put it into today, like who

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Speaker 2: would be some of the names who, like that's the

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Speaker 2: level of fame and what people say fired to before

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Speaker 2: the murder case.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. Who has crossed over to be

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Speaker 2: So he I mean he was huge, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because I mean he was Heisman Trophy and he won.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was he was a stud in college,

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Speaker 1: but then he was a Hall of Famer and in

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Speaker 1: that level. But then he made that leap to actor.

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Speaker 1: He was in movies. He was in the Naked Gun movies.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 1: He was a pitch man, the likes of which you

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Speaker 1: know Peyton Manning maybe that we see he was doing

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Speaker 1: all the commercials for Hertz rent of hers where he

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Speaker 1: He was a commentator on Monday night football and you

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Speaker 1: name it. So the guy was just untouchable and was

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Speaker 1: making millions of dollars and then he allegedly killed two

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Speaker 2: I mean, I there are people are weighing in today,

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Speaker 2: by the way, people who were intimate.

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Speaker 1: The Caitlyn Jenner thing was very interesting where she came

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Speaker 1: out and was like, good riddance.

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Speaker 2: Was it that interesting? It didn't really surprise me. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but Kitlyn Jenner. Remember when Caitlyn was Bruce Schenner,

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Speaker 2: married to Chris Jenner, and Chris Jenner's best friend was

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Speaker 2: Nicole Brown Simpson and Chris Jenner's husband Rob Kardashian. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the dynamics of that moment. Chris

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Kaitlyn Jenner. Maybe what's interesting about

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Speaker 2: it is Kitlyn Jenner indicating obviously how Chris felt that

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Speaker 2: was good riddance, OJ Simpson. You don't see anybody mourning

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Speaker 2: the loss very strongly today.

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Speaker 1: Because we all look. I think if you if you

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Speaker 1: with murder. And that's just conventional wisdom, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: I would bet on that I did. I was hosting

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Speaker 1: the View for a week and I did one particular

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Speaker 1: show with Chris Jenner and she was on and I

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Speaker 1: she was saying she walked in one day when OJ

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Speaker 1: and Robert Kardashian was there. So just fascinating history. I

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Speaker 1: And here's my other question. Did OJ leave a note?

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Speaker 1: Did he leave a note in a vault safety depositals?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you mean that he's just now that he's died

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Speaker 1: Did yeah, now that he's died, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: was texting some of my friends this morning of like,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll never know. I mean I think no,

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Speaker 1: but I guess we'll never really know. But do you

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Speaker 2: Because I don't think he's that good of a person

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Speaker 2: and I don't know him obviously.

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Speaker 1: I never met him either.

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Speaker 2: By the way, every interview I've ever seen with him,

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Speaker 2: and Kitlyn Jenner said quote, I believe he got away

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Speaker 2: with two savage murders. I don't think when you're that

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Speaker 1: I know you were young, but like you've watched a

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Speaker 2: I watched, which was the I mean, there's so many

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Speaker 2: if it had been posted, it would live on. But

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Speaker 2: I watched the American Crime Story scripted show, which was

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Speaker 2: great show with like David Swimmer, that put in perspective

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Speaker 2: I mean, so fascinating. I think that trial also is

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Speaker 2: that was part of the reason that he wasn't convicted.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, the celebrity of it, the fact that it

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Speaker 1: Judge Edo, I mean to this day, you know the characters,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it when the American Crime Story came out,

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Speaker 2: about that situation is it's such a defining trial for him, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was a lawyer who just kind of

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I can't believe I'm saying this out loud, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes I really truly think, well, I mean, like my

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Speaker 2: but those experiences like that makes or breaks you as

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Speaker 1: And there's two two scenarios, One where you have kind

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Speaker 1: OJ umbrella definitely covered so many lives.

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Speaker 2: People who were murdered horribly and yeah, I mean the houseboy,

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean just all these names are coming back

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Speaker 1: Marcia Clark was the big attorney that you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I don't think that. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure that something has that capability today. I think that

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Speaker 2: I don't think like, Okay, the Johnny Depp amber Herd trial,

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Speaker 2: like I kind of remember like Depth's attorney, but I

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Speaker 1: And this thing. Maybe it's also because yeah, I agree

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Speaker 1: We would find a way to divide the nation over this,

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Speaker 1: and I can't see it unified us, but it definitely

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Speaker 1: brought us all together. We were just watching it unfold,

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Speaker 1: whereas now we would all be taking sides and saying

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Speaker 2: All right, onto a little bit of a lighter headline,

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Speaker 2: the return of melrose Place, but by the way, lighter,

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Speaker 2: but also back to the nineties. So melrose Place is

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Speaker 2: don't remember melrose Place. I gotta be honest. My instant

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Speaker 1: I agree. I concur with all of that. It is

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