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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to the player's

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Speaker 1: Corner on the Giants Huddle Podcast. I'm Jonathan casie Us,

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Speaker 1: and we welcome in Giants wide receiver Isaiah OGINs. What's up, bro?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, man, I'm good. Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt man. All right, so you just stepped

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Speaker 1: up the field just now. OTAs is in full swing.

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Speaker 1: What y'all do today?

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Speaker 3: Today? It was just you know, like a little lyft

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Speaker 3: and walk through day.

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Speaker 2: We just had two practices in a row, so uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, freshen up the legs a little bit and

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Speaker 2: then you know, hit hit the ground running again tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so one more practice weekend off start again on Monday. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Dave Ball is doing a good job and taking

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Speaker 1: care of y'all.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he definitely does a good job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, end season and out of season for sure,

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Speaker 2: just taking care of his guys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you're a caliboy, yeah, Bordon Race, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: you went to the high schooter. Then you went to

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Speaker 1: Oregon State. What was that transition like going from Cali

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a little different, But I wanted

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Speaker 2: something different, you know, like all of my top five

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Speaker 2: were like out of state schools, Like I think it

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Speaker 2: was like Michigan, Oregon, Oregon State, Colorado, and I think

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Speaker 2: Nebraska or something. But I definitely just wanted to like

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Speaker 2: experience something different. So you know, it was for sure different.

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Speaker 2: You know, I loved it up there, so it.

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Speaker 1: Was cool, no doubt. So I'm undrafted from Jersey, I

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Speaker 1: went to Wisconsin. Yeah, then I was that's different, different,

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Speaker 1: So I went undrafted, had some some stuff going on

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Speaker 1: in college. You were a late round draft pick, sixth round,

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Speaker 1: but you got your opportunity to play for Buffalo. How

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Speaker 1: was that like transitioning from Oregon State being a really

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Speaker 1: good wide receiver? Of course, going to six round, did

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Speaker 1: you feel slider than any type of way? You felt like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got my opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was a little different, just given

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Speaker 2: the receiver room that we had at the time. I

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Speaker 2: had gave Davis drafted in front of me, so you know,

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Speaker 2: just with how the NFL usually works, like you know,

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Speaker 2: the higher draftics are going to get more of the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: more the plays and everything, and then being there with

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Speaker 2: good to definitely like be in that like atmosphere. But

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Speaker 2: I knew like just kind of like going into it

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Speaker 2: most of it. And you know, it happened a couple

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Speaker 2: of unfortunate events of me getting hurt my rookie year

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Speaker 2: and stuff, but I was definitely able to learn a

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Speaker 2: lot just be in the room full of veteran guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's rough. You drafted sixth round. You're already

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Speaker 1: climbing up here. Yeah, up here, I know what that's about.

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Speaker 1: Then you get hurt on top of that. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: So did you feel like in any type of way

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Speaker 1: did you feel like, man, I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: I think my second year for I for sure was

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Speaker 2: so I was trying to, you know, like get my

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Speaker 2: sure like all right, like I'm making a scene and

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Speaker 2: And when neither of those things happened, I was like, dang,

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Speaker 2: And you know, luckily I ended up getting brought back

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Speaker 2: So you know, it was kind of fortunate situation for me.

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Speaker 1: Waved three times. The last time was the third time.

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Speaker 2: I was on I R my rookie year because I

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Speaker 3: I got you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that last time getting waved.

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Speaker 3: You're right, three times? Three times? Three times?

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Speaker 1: So the last time getting waved before the Giant sign.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how was that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that was some scary stuff. Question about yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, it was tough, for sure. I mean it was

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Speaker 2: on the trade deadline, like trade deadline day. You know,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't really expecting anything to happen. I've been on

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Speaker 2: And and then I just you know, I was just

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Speaker 3: We weren't really doing that much. It was whatever.

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Speaker 1: And you were active right away? Yeah, right active? So

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Speaker 1: you were from pea squad waved several times, Yeah, injury reserve,

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Speaker 1: which I mean I've been there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a dark time, right sure.

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Speaker 1: Now you're active with the New York Giants. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: how did that happen? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean just a lot of patience and perseverance, man,

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Speaker 2: see like the big picture and just like hey, like

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Speaker 2: God had you sit here with a veteran led team

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Speaker 2: now that I look back, I think that's true because

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Speaker 2: was just soaking all that up, just asking questions, asking questions,

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Speaker 1: So you're you're still young in the game, your VET

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Speaker 1: now though you're a young VET in the game, but

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Speaker 1: you're battle tested, bro. Like the stuff you've been through

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Speaker 1: was checking out his stats like that. But he played

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Speaker 1: Was it something that he kind of laid back or

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Speaker 3: Why did that go?

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Speaker 3: It was like a mixture of both.

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Speaker 2: Like he always told me, like you know, like whatever

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Speaker 2: But I was just around football literally from like I

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Speaker 2: So like I wanted, like I was playing football at

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Speaker 2: So it was definitely just like always like a goal

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Speaker 1: Check that box. So when you got signed. I've been

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Speaker 1: You know, we're sitting there like Isaiah Hodgens, who is

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Speaker 1: Though, Bro, you proved that not only did you belong,

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Speaker 1: about New York City bro, not Upstate New York Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: it is all on you. I know, the first game

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Speaker 1: How was that like coming here and being you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean it was for sure different just adapting to

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Speaker 2: you know, when you're doing good, then you might lose

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Speaker 2: So you know, I try to do my best of

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Speaker 2: and just like continue just to work, work, work every

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Speaker 1: Stay ready so you don't have to get ready, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I usually try to. I think this year, we

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Speaker 1: Nice talking to you, Thanks for joining us, and we'll

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