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Speaker 1: Grew up in North and uh, North Oakland, and your

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Speaker 1: mom wouldn't let you play outside. He would play you

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Speaker 1: go to the fence. So you're seeing your friends. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure everybody wasn't as probably as strict as your mom.

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Speaker 1: You say your mom was progressive because you did let

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Speaker 1: you get a tatoo at age of thirteen. But you

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Speaker 1: see other kids play and you're like, well, damn, or

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Speaker 1: go join them.

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Speaker 4: Na. It was more so like we didn't had it.

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Speaker 4: We didn't had a uh, we didn't had a check

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Speaker 4: because they was you know, they used to charge yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean a pretty penny for U for.

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Speaker 2: The uniform and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean you know how we had to

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Speaker 4: get it, well, we had to get it on the streets, right, so,

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Speaker 4: you know, playing throw up tackle and you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, on the concrete. Yeah, all fifteen of us

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Speaker 4: trying to get one dude, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So you know when I had when I did get

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to play uh uh pop wanna tackle football,

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Speaker 4: probably were third with thirteen, so I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: I most guys started like six. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: I came in the game a little late. But I

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Speaker 4: feel the way that we were playing in the street

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Speaker 4: prepared me for that because they had unmovable objects like cars, gates,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So you run it to

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Speaker 4: them a couple of times, you learn how to take

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Speaker 4: a hit or too.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you grew up, You talked about your mom, your

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Speaker 1: dad was in jail during your childhood.

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Speaker 2: What type of impact did that have on you?

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Speaker 4: I just thought it was normal because I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: that had that similar condition. You know, no further at all.

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Speaker 4: So when I you know what I mean, I went

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Speaker 4: to live with my cousins, uh and they had mom

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Speaker 4: and dad in the house, and I'm I'm thinking to myself, like, well, damn,

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Speaker 4: how you when you go outside, how you sneak outside,

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Speaker 4: like because if your mom ain't here, then your dad here.

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Speaker 4: And if your dad here, I mean, if your dad

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Speaker 4: in here, then like when you get to you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, when you get to bring outside, like man,

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Speaker 4: they owners if if if if it's a no go,

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Speaker 4: it's no go, because they gonna they gonna make sure

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Speaker 4: of it, right damn. So I thought that was kind

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Speaker 4: of weird. I'm just used to you feel me, just

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Speaker 4: a single parent household. I thought that was normal, right.

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Speaker 1: You say your mom took multiple jobs. Is that why

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Speaker 1: you have all this? You know you saw your mom,

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Speaker 1: were you like, hey, mom got that. Mom made sure

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Speaker 1: we had whatever she could get, she got for us.

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Speaker 1: But that was because she had multiple jobs. Is that

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Speaker 1: where you get your work ethic from?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I just think it's the I just

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Speaker 4: think it's the hustle man, the driving. Then I think

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Speaker 4: it's in the bloodline be cause shit, you know, my

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Speaker 4: mom did it, My grandma did it, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, my grandfather and from what I heard about

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Speaker 4: my dad, shit he was too. But then my uncle

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? And that was where I really

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Speaker 4: seen the hustle from I mean, shit, he had he

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Speaker 4: had toes walking the streets, you know, I mean running

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Speaker 4: in the loop. I mean, he sold whatever he could

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Speaker 4: was just a non stop, you know, I mean NonStop

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Speaker 4: thing for me, Like he didn't get off of work

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Speaker 4: because if you I mean if his toes walking there,

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Speaker 4: you know, he making sure he collected and the dog

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Speaker 4: coming in from that, and then I mean if somebody

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Speaker 4: over here want something, then he going to go make

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Speaker 4: that happen. And the hours of the streets don't got

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Speaker 4: no uh no, no clothes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no clothes.

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Speaker 4: Signs on 'em. They open for bis, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: I look, you got cousin Josh Johnson played in the

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Speaker 1: league for a number of years.

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Speaker 2: Uh. It's like and you mentioned this.

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Speaker 1: Big, big extended family that you got Mark and Peters

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Speaker 1: is a cousin of yours.

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Speaker 2: You say, David Lillard grew up down the street from you.

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Speaker 1: It was just a bunch of kids in the area

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Speaker 1: growing up having a good time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean but it was hard.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if if if it was, it was living

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Speaker 4: for us, right, but just an interesting thing. So you know,

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Speaker 4: you got Oakland's brother. Uh. You got North oakl on Eastokeholm, Westokeholm.

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Speaker 4: I'm from North Oakland, Marcus and Josh from Westokeholm. Dame

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Speaker 4: from Eastokeham. Dame was younger though right his older brother

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Speaker 4: uh Houston was a he was my age. But within

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Speaker 4: the North ok community in Oakland is probably the smallest uh.

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Speaker 4: And you had, you had me, you got andre Ward,

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Speaker 4: you got uh Leon pohe Uh, you got Ryan Coogler,

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Speaker 4: and you got ah Mter fab who all within dislike

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Speaker 4: maybe seven to ten mile radius of individuals. Then with

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Speaker 4: those five people, you got Coogler, who yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: probably one of the best movie directors out there. Andre

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Speaker 4: Ward undefeated UH boxer. You got Leon poh uh NBA

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Speaker 4: know Mr fab of platinum platinum uh a platinum artist.

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Speaker 4: All within them with four five six that's what it

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Speaker 4: was called, PHO five six. You got the forties and

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Speaker 4: fifties in the sixties, within those what thirty blocks, you

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Speaker 4: got champions, yeah, I mean, and some of the best

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Speaker 1: I'm you said it was struggle for you to learn

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Speaker 1: it's just like sit there and learn.

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Speaker 2: Right, Bro, you got in the cal man, somebody got

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Speaker 2: a three point two.

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Speaker 4: You got a three point two. Somebody was working. Somebody

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Speaker 4: was working, and that high power, the higher power was working, right,

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Speaker 4: the higher power was working. Man, blessings?

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Speaker 1: You did you consider any any any other school over cam?

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Speaker 4: Uh? I mean, well, see the thing was I wasn't

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Speaker 4: about you know, college or whatever. And uh, I remember

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Speaker 4: it like yesterday I got my first handwritten letter. I

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Speaker 4: was in the tenth grade. Tyrone Willingham was over at

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Speaker 4: UH at Nordre Dame and he send me a handwritten

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Speaker 4: letter and I remember getting it, open it up and

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Speaker 4: all of this shit was incursive. Damn, I'm like, what

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Speaker 4: the fuck? I tell my cut I tell Josh like, hey, bruh,

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Speaker 4: what the fuck is this? He like, bruh, you gotta

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Speaker 4: you gotta handwritten from Nordon Dame Like like yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: what that mean? Like nigga, they want to come today school,

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Speaker 4: Like hold on, you gotta go to more school after

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Speaker 4: we graduate from school, Like damn, I ain't with all

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Speaker 4: that shit, Like nah, bruh, you get to go to college.

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Speaker 4: You go, you know, you go do go to college,

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Speaker 4: you do your thing. Then you could go to the league. Like,

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Speaker 4: oh well shit, I might get this college thing to try.

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Speaker 4: What I gotta do. Josh told me. First thing you

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Speaker 4: gotta do, nigga, you gotta go get your grades. Right.

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Speaker 4: Oh shit. So now, like I said, you motherfucker was

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Speaker 4: working alright. Who is these teachers? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: My uncle, like I said, I used to look up

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Speaker 4: to my uncle. Uncle. Yeah. Man, come to hey, man,

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Speaker 4: when you go and talk to them teachers, you gotta

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Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta treat them teachers like like like

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Speaker 4: they a woman you're trying to get. You gotta you

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Speaker 4: gotta serenad him. You gotta get him to feel you

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Speaker 4: gotta get him to think that you really about this.

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Speaker 4: All right. So as I started to do it, I

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Speaker 4: mean I started to learn more and I started to oh, well,

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Speaker 4: this is what it looked like to apply yourself. I

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Speaker 4: can do this. Yeah, I can do this. I can

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Speaker 4: make something work.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was his teammate. M what what was did

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Speaker 1: you did you think? I mean, I think he's a

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Speaker 1: top five quarterback all time when you're playing when you're

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Speaker 1: playing with him in college, did you think he was

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Speaker 1: going to turn into what he became.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The only difference is I would have thought he would

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Speaker 4: have had more Super Bowls by now. Realistically, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: probably the reason Aaron Rodgers is the reason why I

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Speaker 4: got my opportunity at cam Uh. You know, as a freshman,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's hard to play. Yeah, and there was

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Speaker 4: a running back on our team who rushed for I

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Speaker 4: think fifteen hundred the year before and had two thousand

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Speaker 4: my freshman year. Wow, So the chances of me getting

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to play with slam right. I remember, Uh

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Speaker 4: we was in what's that spring We had our spring

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Speaker 4: game and uh you know I mean you know the

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Speaker 4: ones going against the ones and yeah, I mean Tefford

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Speaker 4: call like, hey, uh put twofoon in there. And I'm

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Speaker 4: like what. Everybody looking around like what like you finla

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Speaker 4: get his freshman an opportunity because we had some some

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Speaker 4: older guys that still ain't even you know, I mean

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Speaker 4: got to carry like yeah, man, put put put two

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Speaker 4: foe in there. Let me see what you do. They

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Speaker 4: come in there, they call twenty four power.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I get a power like that's not the

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Speaker 1: real man. What oh down, pull around? Oh that thing

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Speaker 1: about to open up nights?

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Speaker 2: Would you? He got full.

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Speaker 4: And I get back there. I'm looking across that defense.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh shit, them grown ups, them grown ups

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Speaker 4: like you know what I mean? Them fuck it and

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Speaker 4: get in there. Call to play, set in go. I

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Speaker 4: done went the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: Ah man, damn beat.

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Speaker 4: I done went the wrong damn way. But this is

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Speaker 4: how I knew a rod was special as a rod.

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Speaker 4: on the other side a rod. Pull a smoothie move

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Speaker 4: I ever seen. And that boy turned around and hand

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Speaker 2: The tackle. Look, you're who you are.

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Speaker 2: You do realize that since there has been a.

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Speaker 4: I just got them ready for you. That was all

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Speaker 2: Man, Why y'all beat my broncos like that?

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on, bro, Man had to man, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Who I don't know who y'all playing is, but you

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Speaker 4: bring that up.

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Speaker 4: With you man after the game, trying to find you.

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Speaker 2: We expected that y'all expected to beat them that bad.

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Speaker 4: We expected that is what the truth is. We expected that.

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Speaker 4: They was upset because they like it could have been worse.

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Speaker 4: Out It could have been worse, It should have been worse.

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Speaker 4: It was a tribute to how my mom, you feel

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Speaker 4: If I come to you, I'm gonna come respectful until

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Speaker 2: So that was how that went, Marshall. We got to

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, Oh you're getting right, Russ.

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Speaker 1: player in the huddle, because they look, you got one

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00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: yard we got the man that we got, We got

436
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Bee's more, we got two hundred and twenty five thirty five.

437
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 4: Pounds sledge Hamber, what's handling?

438
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: And we got a time out. So if we don't

439
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: get it, what's handling. If we don't get it on

440
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: this first second down, we're gonna get it on third.

441
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna get it on four. We're gonna get this

442
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: ball in there. But Bee's got to touch it. Bee's

443
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: gotta habit was handed.

444
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 4: Man. The look on the look on all my teammates

445
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: face in the huddle, you know it spoke values And

446
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, processing the ship. If you go

447
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: back and you look at the play, I actually lined

448
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: it because I'm shit, I'm processing. I line up on

449
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 4: the wrong side. I line up on the wrong side. Man,

450
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: Russell gotta tell you, I'm bouncing from back and forth

451
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 4: behind like oh ship. And by the time it sat in, like, motherfucker,

452
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 4: what what did you we just call? You just hear

453
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: all the cheering from the other sideline like what the fuck?

454
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: So you didn't know what you didn't know? You didn't

455
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: know Malcolm Butler had picked.

456
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: The ball up, man, because they seeing me on the flat. Yeah, yeah,

457
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 4: you feel me. I'm running out there like ship. Well,

458
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: at least you gonna hit me in the flat. Yeah yeah,

459
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 4: And I get my head around.

460
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: He at tackling you one on one?

461
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: What the fuck going?

462
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 5: Like?

463
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: What happened?

464
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 4: No ball coming on all? And see them up fuckers

465
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: jumping up and down and chaining like oh shit, he

466
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: just threw a pick. And at that time, you know,

467
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: there was a lot of shit going on, you know

468
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 4: what I mean.

469
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: So as you walking off the field, the defense is

470
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: coming on the field. God, so was it entery interaction?

471
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: Did anybody say anything to the defense said, man, what

472
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: the help was that? Who called that? Bull?

473
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: Jy that we look back at it. You see everybody,

474
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 4: you know, they show the reactions. Yeah, yeah, I mean

475
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: you see the reaction Sharon, Earl Bruce, you know what

476
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: I mean, d line or the You see the reaction

477
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: from everybody. And then as I'm going back to the sideline, uh,

478
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: you know, go by Rush and I just hear him like,

479
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: oh man, like I get him next time.

480
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: Wa ho whoa? What whoa? Who whoa? Whoa whoa?

481
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: And as I'm as I hear the ship, I don't

482
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: really I usually donna take my hammet off, but you know,

483
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: I take my helmet off and I go right to

484
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll face and I'm talking about I hit his

485
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 4: ass with the biggest.

486
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: Face.

487
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: What And at that point, ship ship, I go to

488
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 4: the locker room.

489
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, beebo.

490
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 4: See all the ship going on. I don't see none

491
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 4: of this ship. I don't see the I don't see

492
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 4: the last few plays.

493
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: Where they getting scuffling and the pushing the shoven. You

494
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: was already gone.

495
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 4: I'm in another fucking uh you in the locker room.

496
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm in the locker room.

497
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: So by the time they come to the locker room,

498
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: you're probably already drew.

499
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: It was Arizona. I think I ran in the uh

500
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: in the uh many cravicsh sh.

501
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up?

502
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: Man? Looking like? Don't you got a game? Oh? Yeah?

503
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: That ship over called my mama and UH called the family. Hey,

504
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: come on, we're back to the spot. All right, Go

505
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: in there, get dressed, go shower, get dressed. And as

506
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 4: I'm coming out, now you see everybody else coming in.

507
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I let you ill. Let y'all. Won't you

508
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: get back to the What?

509
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: Why why didn't they give you that ball? Why did

510
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: Darryl Beba call a pass play? Why did Peet Caroll

511
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: not overrule it?

512
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: What happened. Did they not want you to get that?

513
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: M VP man, I have no idea, And from the

514
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: understanding I got is nobody taken accountability for it, neither

515
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: one of them. They put it off on each other.

516
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: So I don't know, Okay, I don't know what the

517
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: fuck hold up? Russ put it off on Pete. Pete

518
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: put it off on Russ, or whether it coordinated the

519
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 4: head coach, nah coordinator and head coach. They passed it

520
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: back to each other from from that's when they talking

521
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 4: to me. So I don't know how I play. But

522
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: at at the end of the day, yeah, that shit

523
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: was you know, that shit would were painful, cause you

524
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: gotta think like, no matter what in any sport, you

525
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 4: play what you do, especially now running back saying okay,

526
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: you you when you a little jit, you set up

527
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: you know, pillow here, pillow here, chair here, you know

528
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: what I mean, maybe a lamp post here, like okay,

529
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: and then you start going it's that the end of

530
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: the game. One more playing, uh uh, the quarterback handing

531
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: the ball off the marshan he jumping in his one

532
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: touch that you all the the oaking Reder win the

533
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. C I'm a ready fan. I'm from Oaking, California.

534
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: So you know you put it together like you put

535
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: that play together so many times you you play that,

536
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 4: you play that so many times. So not only did

537
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 4: they take a uh you know the moment they at

538
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: the moment they took a dream. Wow, you know what

539
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: I mean? That's a I guess say that's one in

540
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: a lifetime situation.

541
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Have you gotten over it? Uh?

542
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: To be honest with you now, now that you know

543
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: we at ten years, we had a ten year reunion

544
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: for the Super Bowl, and just thinking like, damn, we

545
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: could have been doing this again next year, next year,

546
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: and there's no telling, like you know, you took a

547
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: dream away, you took a moment away. You arguably take this,

548
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 4: you take a dynasty away. You know what I mean?

549
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: Because then you you know, you in position to a

550
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: we win two super Bowls. Maybe I don't want to

551
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: be the highest paid corner or the highest paid safety

552
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: or the highest paid receiver. No, spread that cheese through

553
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: the whole team. So we could bring everybody back and

554
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: we could go try to do dream be every foul.

555
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: Let's see what we could get out of it. So,

556
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, not only do you you know,

557
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: you you take away all that ship, but you know

558
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: you put us in there in the history books as

559
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: the dumbest car in football history. And then I mean,

560
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: you know, for my situation on the other end of it,

561
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's gonna be an everlasting

562
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: question that I'm gonna get it. Why they are bunny

563
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: the ball?

564
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: That is that the question that you get asked the most.

565
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: If when people meet Marshall Lynching, everybody knows who you are,

566
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: is that the first question out.

567
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Of they like, Hey, how you doing marshank Man? Why

568
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: they give you that ball?

569
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: Hell? No, I ain't know, Hey, mar Shan, how you

570
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: doing this?

571
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Hey?

572
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: Why the fun? Lynch? You couldn't just like Marshaon Lynch, like, no,

573
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 4: I ain't more Sean Lynch. Oh my bad. I didn't

574
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: mean to ask you that. I thought you was more

575
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: Shane Lynch, because I was gonna say, Man, if you

576
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: was Marcha Lene, why the fuck they didn't eat I'm

577
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: marshank Man. Why the fuck they don't ship? Fuck? I

578
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: don't know, man ship. I wish I did know. I

579
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: wish I like, I wish I could get you know,

580
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: the truth an answer behind that.

581
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 2: But if there any answer he could give you now

582
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: to satisfy you.

583
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 4: I mean, at this point, I wouldn't know. Now there's

584
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: been so much time in between. It probably wouldn't even.

585
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Matter because you know every I've heard all everybody says, well,

586
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: they didn't want beast Moll to be the MVP. Pete

587
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: wanted it to be Russ or the NFL wanted it

588
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: to be Russ Heard, whatever the case may be. But

589
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. I mean to the I played

590
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: the game for a long time. It doesn't make sense

591
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: to me. I got two hundred thirty five pounds sledge

592
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: jumber back there, and I'm gonna throw a pass on

593
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: the one yard lane.

594
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just don't make sense.

595
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: You almost scored on the play before you read it

596
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: down to the one.

597
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: You're damn right, you know what I mean? So I realistically,

598
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: like man, when I when I think about it, I'm

599
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: in a position to where you feel me. I don't

600
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: get you know, upset, frustrated with it, but more and

601
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: so curious, like you know, because then you know you

602
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: got all the possibility. Did they not want you to

603
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: be the the super Bowl MVP? Because if you super

604
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: Bowl MVP, then you the face of the NFL. They

605
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: don't want, you know, want that to be the case

606
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: or whatever.

607
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: But at that and then they have special case and

608
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: they bring all Super Bowl winners back and they out there.

609
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, how long did it take

610
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: you to get over not getting the ball?

611
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: You know what? Realistically it was immediately. Because the thing is,

612
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: if you're go and ask anybody to ever play with me,

613
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: they'll tell you like, he really like play for the

614
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 4: team type shit. Right, So it was a part of

615
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: me who wanted to be selfish, like give me the

616
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: ball type shit. But at the end of the day,

617
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: knowing the work that all these individuals put in you,

618
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: I mean, if Lock catch that ball, that's my nigga,

619
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: so you feel me. I'm happy for him. But in

620
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: the grand scheme of just football, that shit don't make

621
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 4: no sense as far as you know what I mean,

622
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 4: because I'll never come and potentially be no hater towards nobody,

623
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: But just certain shit makes sense and certain shit don't.

624
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 4: That just don't make no sense. It's it's not a

625
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: good football. It's not it's not a football decision. It's

626
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: not good football. I I Q on now that I'm

627
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: thinking about it, it's not was.

628
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: That the play that ended the Seattle Seahawks.

629
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: Most definitely, and they stuff for in the front still

630
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 4: to this day.

631
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Because I had a podcast at the time called Milding

632
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: Off and I went on the next I went on

633
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: that Monday, and I said, they'll never be the same

634
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: I said, they won't look at Pete the same I said,

635
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: they realize what because a lot of teams win won

636
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: in a row to be special, you went back to

637
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: back super Bowls, because they've been so few that have

638
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: done it. I said, they will never believe in Pete

639
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: the same way again.

640
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: And it's like, you know what I mean, Like when

641
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: a when a doap thing get that first highday, they

642
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: gonna chase that.

643
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: You chase that you search for, that chase the dragt

644
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: chase that motherfucker.

645
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 4: And now you've got a situation where I believe where

646
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: you look at it like that motherfucker is almost like

647
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 4: he's trying to chase and rebuild that team that he

648
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: had rather than moving forward and letting the guys that

649
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 4: he got be the guys.

650
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna do that.

651
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a sharm I mean, you got

652
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: a sharm. You got a rookie sharm, and the Earl

653
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Thomas and the cam Chancellor and you know, you got

654
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: b Wags and you got kJ and you got Bennett,

655
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: and you got Abril and you got Red Bro.

656
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: You not, You're not gonna You're not gonna recreate that.

657
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: You're not. But as long as you chasing that and

658
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: you not building these individuals be the to be the

659
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 4: greatest player that they can be, you're gonna keep it on,

660
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: you know, repeating history, because he got some guys who

661
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: I believe can play right. But if you got in

662
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: your mind that you want you're gonna recreate that to

663
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: be a Michael Bennett or you got your guy you

664
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: want him to be a Marshine or like, nah, you

665
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: can't do that. But the thing is, if you going

666
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 4: and growing that guy to be the best him than

667
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: the probably give yourself a better chance, you feel me?

668
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: Because they got some dudes over there who I really

669
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you get down, I like, you know what

670
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 4: I mean. But as long as in their mindset they

671
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: trying to get him to be the goddamn twenty thirteen Seahawks.

672
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: What happened with with with Russ and Pete. Why did it?

673
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean because it seemed like a match made in heaven.

674
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they spend y'all spend big money to get

675
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: Matt Flynn from the Packers. Russ comes in. I think

676
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Russell is a third round draft pick. He wins the job.

677
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: Matt Flynn never sees the feel it was. It's perfect everything.

678
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: It seems like a match made in heaven. Right, and

679
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: then we see the abruptness. Maybe Russ feels that Pete

680
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: is holding him back because it was all about the

681
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: lead in the boom. Maybe Pete said, well, there's some

682
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: slippage if we're not gonna give you that massive contract.

683
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: What happened to your from your expert opinion, you played

684
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: in Seattle? You know Russ, you know Pete? What happened

685
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: with that relationship? Man?

686
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: You look, man, I'm gonna tell you straight up, I'm

687
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: not the I wouldn't be the right person to speak

688
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: on their relationship because I didn't like, I didn't I

689
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: didn't fuck with him, you feel what.

690
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So you didn't meant for who?

691
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 4: I didn't fuck with with Pete? And then I mean,

692
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, Russ was like just a quarterbacks for me.

693
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: I mean, so it wasn't as you.

694
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: Didn't have no relationship. You didn't have no type of relationship. Y'all.

695
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't like go to a go go to a party.

696
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't get together. Y'all ain't doing it. Y'all ain't

697
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: kick it like that.

698
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I mean even the seventh, I

699
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: mean seven would come to the rule Club.

700
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: Shait you know, Club sha Shade started in like your

701
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: training camp in Denver. John would come to the room

702
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: with drank beer. We play card, we roll dice, the

703
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: guys play video game, We laugh and shoot the ish.

704
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: We had that type of relationship with him, y'all.

705
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: So the thing is, I mean, you know, you know,

706
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 4: there's nothing like I respect Russell as you feel me

707
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: as a player and as a teammate. And uh, you know,

708
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: anything that I say you feel me because of the situation,

709
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 4: you know, throwing the pick on the gold line, not

710
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 4: giving me the ball, this that and the third him,

711
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: you know, leaving from Seattle, you know, going over to

712
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: anything that I say is gonna come off as you know,

713
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: malis or as if I'm you know, a hater or

714
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 4: because I mean, you know what I you know, I'll

715
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 4: take Rusty and I'll put him right there at quarterback

716
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: and I'll rock with him because I have done that.

717
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, as far as anything else, it's.

718
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: Like y'all didn't have a relationship outside of football.

719
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: No, there's no I mean, can't pick up the phone

720
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: and call oh boy or nothing? Right?

721
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: And then I mean, you know, what do you mean

722
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: you couldn't pick up the phone. I mean, I don't

723
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: got a number. Oh well, but you would, I mean but.

724
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 4: If you yeah, for sure, right for sure? I mean

725
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: you know, like I said, if you talk to any

726
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: player that I played with, like you know what I mean,

727
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck. If you're on a practice squad,

728
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: you pick up the phone and you called me, you

729
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: got something going on? You want to holler at me,

730
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: then I'm what's up? Yeah? But I had a situation.

731
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 4: You know, we was we was playing, uh against Tennessee,

732
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: and they had you know, I mean they they secondary

733
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: wasn't they wasn't. Uh they wasn't you know, they wasn't good.

734
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: And we're supposed to throw the ball for five hundred

735
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 4: yards or some shit like that, and you know, uh,

736
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: he didn't had a game resident had a game that

737
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: he wanted and so man, you know, after the game,

738
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: I did pretty good. You find me two tugs, one

739
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty Russian another fifty receiver. So after the game,

740
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: you know, just all of the hype building up. You're

741
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 4: supposed to do this and we gonna have it. It

742
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: didn't work out that way. So man, I, uh, you know,

743
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: I reached out to our prayer personnel dude or not, like, hey, man, uh,

744
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: let me get a rus's number. Uh call him, you

745
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: know how I I'll call you back. So then you know,

746
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: he called me back, like, hey, did you you know

747
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 4: you get a call? Like nah? And like nah, Rush

748
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: just said he called you. I'm like, nah, I got

749
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: a call from a black number. He like, oh, that's him,

750
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: Like he blocked his number. I don't know if he

751
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: blocked it or I don't know how well. I just

752
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: know it got called from a black number. So when I, uh,

753
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 4: you know, I called back and I'm just like, hey, bruh,

754
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: you know I ain't calling you as no uh you know.

755
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: No no like no media, shit fan, no stockings roll

756
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: is me.

757
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm a make Like now I'm calling you telling him

758
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: straight up like that I'm calling you on some some

759
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: real nigga shit, like you know what I mean. I

760
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: think this is one of the I think this is

761
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 4: the first time that I actually, like, you know, tried

762
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: to have a conversation with But so I'm like, yeah,

763
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 4: you feel me. I know you didn't have a game

764
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: that you wanted to have. I'm like, but look, check

765
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 4: it out, nigga. That's what That's what I'm here for.

766
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 4: And you know what I mean. And if you know

767
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: the shoe on the other foot, I expect you know

768
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: what I mean, for it to be the same way, right, Like, nigga,

769
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 4: we got it, you know what I mean. I'm here

770
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 4: for you. You hear from me, you feel me, you

771
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 4: let me know, and we go like and his response

772
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: to me kind of like was like the fuck but

773
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: you So I told him again like nah, bro, like

774
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: you know, I'm letting you know, Like now I'm here

775
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 4: for you, like nigga, we're gonna rock, you know what

776
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: I mean. And his response was a saying, so I

777
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: kind of.

778
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: So what exactly was his response when that it was bad? Huh?

779
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, considering you know that you reached out,

780
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: we on the same team going for the same goal.

781
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, this was how you

782
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 4: chose to respond to me. It was more so like

783
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: maybe you don't understand what I'm saying. But at this

784
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: point in time where you talk about club shayshay, I

785
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: got the whole house full of everybody, right, you know

786
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 4: what I mean. I'm talking about wide receivers, dbs, fucking linebackers,

787
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 4: uh uh uh, kickers like you, the whole the squad

788
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: in here.

789
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: We minded.

790
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: So I'm hey, oh bro, you know what, Hey man,

791
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna holler at you a little later. Man, I

792
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: think that I think the patrenancy calling me right quick, man,

793
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna get with And then I'm like, damn,

794
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: so I thought I was tripping. So you know, Josha

795
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: Josh quarterback, you feel me? I'm I called Josh like, hey, cuz,

796
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 4: like man, I try to holler that bro, you feel me?

797
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: And he kind of played me like this, like but

798
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 4: oh you know, you know, motherfucker, just be different. I'm like,

799
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 4: I get everybody different. I'm like, but I wasn't reaching

800
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: out to be on no sucker shit. I was reaching

801
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: out to let him know that I got his back.

802
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: And then if I'm not having the game that you know,

803
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: I was expected to have. I expect him to have

804
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: my back typee ship and he just, man, you know,

805
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 4: you know, quarterbacks be you know a little different. I'm like, nigga,

806
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: you a quarterback, right, you feel what I'm saying? Like

807
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 4: all right? He tried to get me to explain it

808
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 4: from I mean, understand it from a different situation.

809
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, what was the relationship

810
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: always it seemed like the Legion of Boom had some

811
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: sort of a contentious relationship with Russ because they say

812
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: Pete treated Russ different than he treated everybody else.

813
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: And then that's what I tell people all the time.

814
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: I say, if the coach treats.

815
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: A player differently and the players see it, they will

816
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: grow to they will grow to resent said player.

817
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not telling you what somebody told me.

818
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what a note.

819
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: That's a fact. But I mean, you know that that

820
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 4: that kicked off, I mean.

821
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: Was it always like that? How did he get to

822
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: how did he get to that?

823
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: He had a situation in practice and uh yeah, I

824
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 4: mean like being accountable with something big for us, Yeah,

825
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: that was that was probably the number one thing that.

826
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: That's the rock, that's the ethos, that's the foundation of

827
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: which is built.

828
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: If I had a practice and uh Pete wouldn't hold

829
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: him accountable, Sharon, you know what I mean, spoke up.

830
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: Uh A couple of d linemens spoke up, and he

831
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: called up practice. We went into this little we called

832
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: it the kom Bayou room. You went in there to

833
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: coom bay y'all, and uh Pete tell him like, hey,

834
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: you know, nobody go and talk to Russell. Uh if

835
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: if if anybody got something to say to Russell, come

836
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: talk to me, Come talk to you know, the quarterback.

837
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: But nobody go and talk to him. And that was

838
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: when that ship you know what I mean, where that

839
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: where that started because it was like, well, hold on,

840
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 4: what you mean you can't talk to anybody can go

841
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: in you know what I mean? This that kind of zone,

842
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: this that kind of team. But you you know, you

843
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: kind of putting him I mean on a pedestal or

844
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: or outside, you know what I mean, outside of the boxing.

845
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: It's like he not, he don't have to be held

846
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: accountable to the same ship that we do. What the

847
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: fuck is that? And you know what I mean, Like

848
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: I said, I'm on the end where shiit I we

849
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: play Sunday? Right, all right, well look i'ma go and uh,

850
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go and get my body work and get ready, y'all.

851
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: I'll see y'all motherfuckers on Sunday when it's time to

852
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: get out. But if it's something that y'all need for

853
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: me in the meantime, y'all got my line, hit me

854
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: let me know. Yeah, I mean, but otherwise, you know

855
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: what I mean, I ain't all that shit was you

856
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean, water under the briars of me?

857
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, because that shit just didn't

858
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: make no sense.

859
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: What you played for John Gruden, you played for Pete Carroll. Similarity,

860
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: what was your what was your relationship with Pete like?

861
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: And are there any similarities between John Gruden and Pete Carroll?

862
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: But what was your relationship like with Pete?

863
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: My relationship with Pete was was interesting because I mean,

864
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: the thing is like, I like Pete as a coach

865
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: because he get motherfuckers ready to go. Yeah, that's the truth.

866
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: You feel me and he the same way every day.

867
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: But there was just certain things about Pete, like you

868
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: know what I mean, he was like and I you know,

869
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: I mean, like for me, I don't, I don't need

870
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: that to get going. That's why I said, you like

871
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: a high school code on Sunday. Yeah, we play Sunday right,

872
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: Oh we got a too. We got Thursday night game. Okay,

873
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: let me know what the game is and I'm gonna

874
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: be ready. All the extra shit I don't. I don't

875
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: need it. I don't need all of that to get

876
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 4: ready to get to go. But a lot of guys

877
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 4: can feed into that, and I've seen it and it worked,

878
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: so you feel me, I never like never go against

879
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: the game like fuck him and this that and the that,

880
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 4: because no, he's a great motivator and get motherfuckers ready.

881
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: But it was just that I didn't need that, and

882
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: I don't think he understood like where I was coming

883
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: from that I don't need to be ha hahi and

884
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: whoo who is all that in order to be ready.

885
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: And you know, I believe he wanted me to be

886
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 4: a part of that type of environment, but that just

887
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: wasn't my speed. So that kind of got us to

888
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, head button a little bit

889
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: for the misunderstanding. But the thing was I always told him,

890
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 4: like man, I ain't gonna never go against the grand

891
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna never tell nobody not to you know

892
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: what I mean, listen to what you got going on,

893
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: But that shit just not for me. So you know

894
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: what I mean, if you gonna be having meetings or whatever,

895
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, we came to an understanding. If

896
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: we having a meeting and you not telling me specifically

897
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 4: like more shine on this play, we need you to

898
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: do X, Y and Z, then you know, I'm probably

899
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: not gonna come to that meeting because I you know,

900
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: I know what you gonna be in there doing. You're

901
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: gonna be in here high high and busting jokes and

902
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: doing all the funny shit and Diddy. You know I mean,

903
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: I I'm I'm ready to play football. So when they

904
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 4: come down to that, then let me know. Once we

905
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 4: got that understanding, you were cool. Yeah, Coach Grooden, what

906
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: was he like? Gruden was like a little chucky doll.

907
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: That ship is the truth, man, Gruden was a little

908
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: checky doll. But man, you know I had you know,

909
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 4: I watched grood when he was coaching for the Readers

910
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: the first time, and uh you know, I mean, uh

911
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: so I was looking at him more so like, yeah,

912
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: I seen you here before. You know what I mean,

913
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: you know, he drafted my cousin in uh in Tampa

914
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: and uh you know so I you know Josh. He

915
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: dropped Josh to Tampa, so you know, like it was cool.

916
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 4: And then while he was there, he actually brought Josh

917
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: and you know, uh for a workout, actually signed him

918
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: for for like a couple of weeks or something. But

919
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 4: I mean, uh, my time with him wasn't you know

920
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 4: that loan. But as far I know, he was a ship.

921
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: He with me. He shot me straight, right, so you

922
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I was good with that.

923
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: Right, you didn't I'm gonna get you out of him

924
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: a few more the White House. The normal of the

925
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: champs they go visit the White House.

926
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: You didn't go.

927
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: Why Uh we had an event uh for the uh

928
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: for the youth back at home. Okay, So I mean,

929
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 4: you know it, it kind of got to a point

930
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 4: where it was like ship.

931
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: You had to make a decision.

932
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, you know, I wasn't big that

933
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 4: were more to me what it was at that time.

934
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: It was a uh a political move and all that

935
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: ship And you know what I mean, I I I'd

936
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 4: be here for my kids, uh, within my uh, within

937
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: our uh our youth center and our foundation. So you know,

938
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: I mean I that that that was something big to

939
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: me and important and considering we just want the super Bowl.

940
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 5: You know.

941
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: The kids and ship, they they love that ship, right,

942
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: So I got to spend time with them, and you know,

943
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: we we watched you know, the little clips that they

944
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: have right being at the White House and ship and

945
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: then uh shit, I mean you know, but they were

946
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 4: cool though. But uh, Bill Clinton had a Bill Clinton

947
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: had pulled up to the hood on and came to

948
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 4: the town.

949
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: Did it?

950
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, Bill came pulled up to the town. Can't

951
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: reach out, you know, I mean, come on, I want

952
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: to come to a spot in Oakland where you think

953
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: you know I can? Uh? Because he was doing some

954
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 4: right and some some programs within the inner city. You know,

955
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: he reached out to me and came and pulled up,

956
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 4: got Bill banging the hood wherever you at? Bill, he

957
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 4: really he really came to that place and fuck with me.

958
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: The running back position, it seemingly is being devalued. Guys

959
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: can't get the money that they feel they deserve. We

960
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: see a lot of the high profile running backs our

961
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: ankle injury. You saw what happened to Nick Chubb on

962
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: that Thursday night, which is so tragic. What's your thought

963
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: on that beach more? What's going on? Why do you

964
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: run it back? Can't get their money?

965
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: Man? If you know, I mean, it's always it's always

966
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 4: been a fighting you know. I mean that the way

967
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: that the teams is looking at the running back you

968
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: know position is like, uh, you know, I mean they're expendable,

969
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 4: like you know, I mean, it don't matter. I could

970
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: get guys in and out. But when you get a

971
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: guy that does not, and there's a few of them

972
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 4: that's like that, you have to at least take care

973
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: of your guys man. I mean that that you could

974
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: you set the tone with them, you know what I mean.

975
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: Defensive players love that, and you know, you win championships

976
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 4: with defense. Having a solid running back gives that defense

977
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: or something to look forward to, because I mean from

978
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 4: my position and seeing it, like usually defense go and

979
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: sit down, you know what I mean when off, But

980
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 4: when we was playing, defenses up because you're trying to, oh,

981
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: we know, brother, gonna go bust somebody ship and it's

982
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: almost like we got a defensive player out there. In

983
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: the backfield waning to go run that ball. But I

984
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: mean it's you know, with the game evolving and changing.

985
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: Uh man, it's it's you know, with us being devalued.

986
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: Like man, you know, I like to say this thing

987
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: like show love to the running back, right, man, it

988
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: gives you an opportunity, man, to play a full game

989
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 4: of a football.

990
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: Right.

991
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 4: And then you know later in the year, when shit

992
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 4: start getting real and it started getting cold, and you

993
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: know what I.

994
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: Mean, it's rainy, damn you you need that, you need that.

995
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 4: And and you know by them, by them trying to

996
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 4: move away from the from the running back position, I've

997
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 4: seen they start, you know, throwing a lot of like

998
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 4: little slot guys back. Then I mean, you know that

999
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: when it's time to go get them ugly ones and tools,

1000
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, shit started looking a little different.

1001
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, they need to take

1002
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: care of the run back because the game changes, right

1003
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: and grand scheme of football.

1004
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: Right, what's your thought, Marshawan in the Hall of Fame?

1005
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: Is Marshon Lynch a hall of fame and that you

1006
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: deserve giving your body of work and what you were

1007
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: able to do because you're all all decade player in

1008
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: twenty ten.

1009
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: So that means you one of the best.

1010
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: I can't tell the story of the twenty tens without

1011
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: Marshaon Lynch being mentioned, right, What would what would that mean?

1012
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: What would that mean? Marshan Lynch from North Oakland, California.

1013
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: I told you, motherfucker salesman. I mean, look to be

1014
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 4: honest with you, like I wasn't really like I didn't

1015
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 4: really watch sports like that, you know what I mean.

1016
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 4: And I was more I'm gonna go outside and do it.

1017
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna play it. You know, watching this cool, but

1018
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: I'd rather go out there and play it. But the

1019
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame got those were the guys who you knew,

1020
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 4: right regardless to whether if I didn't play or whatever

1021
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: the case may be, you knew the Hall of Fame guys.

1022
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: And to be amongst those individuals as far as you know,

1023
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I had my Hall of Fame situation. I

1024
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: did a I got to sit down with Barry and

1025
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 4: do a an interview with him. And Barry, you know,

1026
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: I mean, he said to me like, as we watching

1027
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: one of my runs, like there's a great run, and

1028
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 4: then we watched the Beast Quake and he like this

1029
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: might be the greatest run in football, and I'm like,

1030
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: what the fuck, Like that's coming from Barry Sanders. That

1031
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: was my Hall of Fame moment right there, right, you

1032
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: know what I'm talking about because this was this was

1033
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 4: my favorite running back. But at the same time, like

1034
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: what it does you know, I mean, and what I'm

1035
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 4: big on is regardless to all of my shit, my

1036
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: trials and tribulations, through what I went through to the league,

1037
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 4: to be able to you know, win the Super Bowl

1038
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: and to be able to lose one, you know, I mean,

1039
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 4: to be able to rush for over ten bands you

1040
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: I mean, have what eighty five or eighty plus touchdowns

1041
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 4: or whatever throughout my career, you know. I mean, it

1042
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 4: was a criteria of what you need in order to

1043
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: you know, even be a candidate for So I mean,

1044
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 4: you know, if all my prerequisitions, you know what I mean,

1045
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 4: line up, it's like why not? Because I mean, like

1046
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: you said, you don't get to be able to tell

1047
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: the story of football without in that time. And I

1048
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 4: mean from a standpoint of you know, we went through

1049
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 4: a lot of shit where you know, you haven't you know,

1050
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: that moment in football when it started to get a

1051
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 4: little political you know, I mean, you know, standing up

1052
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: standing ten toes down for you know, your people in

1053
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: or whatever. And this was something that I feel changed

1054
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 4: the game of football in the way that it was viewed,

1055
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 4: in the way that it was looked because now you

1056
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: have this platform, uh you know, to to to to

1057
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 4: y'all give your message to you know the people. And

1058
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: as far as you know my body of work and

1059
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 4: what I've done and what I stand for. Fuck yeah,

1060
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: fuck yeah, I'm a what is it a fifty two,

1061
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 4: fifty four or whatever, you will go my favorite color.

1062
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: So come on with it, marsh and beastmow lynch, continue success.

1063
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: All the best, bro, expectppreciate it. Hey, which I appreciate

1064
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: you for bring me in your establishment. Let me get

1065
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: down with you big do I appreciate that much.

1066
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 4: Spe Yes, sir.

1067
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 5: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics, hustle, price,

1068
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 5: want to slice, got the all my life.

1069
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 2: I'll be grinding all my life, all my life, grinding

1070
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: all my.

1071
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 5: Life, sacrifics, hustle, the price on the slice, doctor Brown

1072
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 5: and dice the swallow all my life.

1073
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: I'd be grinding all my life. H m hm