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Speaker 1: back tight end. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters, presented by t

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Speaker 1: A Bank. Starts right down. Welcome in to Jaguars Reporters.

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Speaker 1: Today is Tuesday, August thirty one. Our reaction to the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars roster cuts. The roster from eight d down to

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Speaker 1: fifty three. J P. Shaddick with Ashland Sullivan, John Oshan,

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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and we're recording this podcast right after urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer spoke with the reaction to the cuts today. And

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Speaker 1: the thing that's too that to me is there's still

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Speaker 1: some concerns for him and a couple of position groups

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Speaker 1: wide receivers only five left, They've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys dinged up. There three running backs on the roster,

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Speaker 1: and John it feels like he's still looking for some speed.

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Speaker 1: He is. Um. I anticipate this, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to throw water on the podcast, but I anticipate a

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Speaker 1: lot of the frenzy right now being so much to

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Speaker 1: do about nothing, because I think a lot of the

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Speaker 1: guys who got cut will wind up still being around.

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Speaker 1: I think Philip Dorset, uh, one of the running backs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't they kept some defensive guys because

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Speaker 1: they needed some depth issue there, and cut some offensive

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Speaker 1: guys they didn't want to keep. With sixteen guys coming

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Speaker 1: back in the practice squad, I still think this is

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Speaker 1: more of a sixty nine mountain man roster than fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster. Brian say something to make this little

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Speaker 1: more dramatic. I don't think I can, right, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I did notice was you really have three receivers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has concerned there, it's because, well, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot of drama to me, right. I

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Speaker 1: thought maybe Kwan Treadwell would make it. I thought maybe

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Speaker 1: by the way, Devin's had two a c l S

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Speaker 1: as an older guy. If he's on the active roster

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Speaker 1: on opening day, you owe him a year's worth of salary.

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Speaker 1: But if you wait and bring him back in two weeks,

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Speaker 1: then he's week to week. I mean, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of considerations that go into putting a roster together today,

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Speaker 1: and it's not all he was better than him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it was funny when he was talking about

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Speaker 1: every single guy that was waived or released or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It was Okay, well, well we have a plan from it,

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Speaker 1: and he might come back. And it seems like, truly

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Speaker 1: you're going to see a ton of these guys on

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Speaker 1: that practice squad because you have to. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: where the practice squad not last year before that, where

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Speaker 1: it's it's a squad that they pull guys up from

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Speaker 1: I anticipate that being seven. Right. You know, the theme

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Speaker 1: But these guys are all Trey Herdon's a special teams guy,

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Speaker 1: but that urban said very specifically. Uh in the discussions today.

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Speaker 1: he even came out and somebody asked him about Josh

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Speaker 1: So it's real. It's a big it's a big concern.

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Speaker 1: great player, right right, No, but it'd be better if

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Speaker 1: a short edition of Jaguars Reporters. How many waiver claims

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Speaker 1: I think there will be a lot of movement six

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Speaker 1: blank said that was a spot that they would probably

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Speaker 1: reaction to the initial roster cutdown from eighty to fifty

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Speaker 1: three for Brian Sexton, John Ozan, Ashman Sullivan, and our

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