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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm ritually filling in last minute for Scott Braun,

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Speaker 1: senior writer with the Athletic aircrafts Kevin Polar. Eric looks

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Speaker 1: like he's moving, but he swears he's not.

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Speaker 2: Eric.

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Speaker 1: I gotta know what the setup is? Did you like

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Speaker 1: just put that up on Ikea behind you? Like, what's

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Speaker 1: the what's.

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Speaker 2: The deal with? This is built in eighteen eighty six.

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Speaker 2: I'm in a house in Cape Charles that was built well,

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Speaker 2: well before you started covering the Orioles and before you

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Speaker 2: started covering. So yes, you guys can figure out, and honestly,

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Speaker 2: I will take I would take any kind of memes

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Speaker 2: and gifts that you can put in the shelves behind me,

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Speaker 2: maybe like some of the awards that I should have

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Speaker 2: earned when I was playing, Like anybody that hits two

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Speaker 2: oh nine should get some type of awards. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, it's guy's weekend, so it's time to go.

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Speaker 3: Like it, like it, good shot.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a bold strategy. If you leave empty shelves,

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Speaker 4: people will send you gifts. You know. I think it's smart.

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Speaker 4: I please please help me fill my shelves.

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Speaker 3: They might.

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Speaker 1: Kevin's immediately rocking that World Series hat today, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that that was free.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: I write the coattails. I write the coat tails. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I never got there as a player, got there as

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Speaker 4: a you know, reporter of sports net. The hat was

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Speaker 4: not free, I'll be honest with your. Hat was not free.

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Speaker 4: I had to buy it. I had to buy it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, no discount, nothing you played there? How how is

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Speaker 3: that even possible? They can't hook it? But the hat, no,

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Speaker 4: I think I think one's on the way. I think

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Speaker 4: one's on the way. But I wasn't gonna like cross

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Speaker 4: over the line. The clubhouse attendants and you know, asked

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Speaker 4: moves for a hat. You know, he had bigger things

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Speaker 4: to worry about. So I just win the store. You know,

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Speaker 3: Nice like it. You get recognized, very much.

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Speaker 4: Very much. Yeah, still alive and well in Toronto.

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Speaker 3: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we got bigger things to get to

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Speaker 1: than Cratsy's background and Kevin Fullar buying his own Toronto

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Speaker 3: Let's charge the mound. Let's charge them about, all right, guys.

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Speaker 1: Big news today, A Rakis finally announced the head of

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Speaker 1: Baseball operations. But because it's the Rockies, they can't just

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Speaker 1: announce who was rumored to be finalists guys who are

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Speaker 1: in baseball, No, they go when they get Paul Depotesta.

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Speaker 1: If you have to like look that up, it's because

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been in baseball in a decade. If you're

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Speaker 1: just a casual fan, then you know the actor Jonah Hill. Well,

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Speaker 1: the movie Moneyball, Jonah Hill was modeled off of Deepost's character.

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Speaker 1: So this is a interesting move, guys. I don't know

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Speaker 1: as Ken Rosenthal and I wrote yesterday, I'll have Ken

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Speaker 1: He's been engaged with the Rockies for about a month,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't on their immediate radio, wasn't a finalist.

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Speaker 1: We know they brought two guys, Amiel Sada Arizona, Matt Foreman,

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Speaker 2: If he is allowed the mean when you think about

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Speaker 2: Jonah Hill and Moneyball, he brought new ideas to an

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Speaker 2: If he's able to do that, if he's able to

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Speaker 2: do that with the Rockies, this is a massive move

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Speaker 2: for the Rockies. The issue with the Rockies the last

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Speaker 4: It's definitely changed. But it's not like they went out

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Speaker 4: he could have brought change there, but nothing really happened.

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Speaker 4: So I just think it's a very Rocky esque move

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Speaker 4: But I look at people's track record. You mentioned the

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Speaker 4: I don't know why the Rockies would kind of go

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Speaker 2: I think the success track record is not there. Success

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Speaker 2: The Rockies need to The Rockies need to get updated.

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Speaker 2: They're they're that friend of yours that still has the

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Speaker 2: And you're like, dog, like you can't even get my

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Speaker 2: text messages, like I need you to update. That's how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty six, ninety nine and one.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it was the Browns record since January

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen when de Podesta went there, as Kevin said,

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Speaker 1: I mean Browns fans were kind of rejoicing, which is

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Speaker 3: You're right, if he.

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Speaker 1: Had come from a winning place. I'm all for out

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Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies and my bigger issue. And I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of text messages from executives again around the game

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Speaker 3: You know who we need?

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Speaker 1: The guy who's been running the Cleveland Browns into the

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Speaker 1: And that, to me is troubling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a big part. I mean, Colorado as

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Speaker 4: especially you know, quarterbacks in first round picks, they haven't

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Speaker 4: a guy like Baker Mayfield, he was you know, first

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Speaker 4: like you said, I'm for you know, thinking outside the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you guys think like this changes anything for

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Speaker 3: Is it a five year plan? Like are they far?

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Speaker 1: Like how far are we talking here? And you know,

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Speaker 1: I know executives have been salivating over it, partly because

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Speaker 1: if you're Pauiti Potessa, like how are you selling the

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Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't think that's I don't

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Speaker 2: we're going to start making us making ourselves a destination.

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Speaker 2: They're going to need to do exactly what KP said.

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Speaker 2: They have to draft. They have to create a a

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Speaker 2: minor league organization that says, we have to do these

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Speaker 2: similar to what the Royals did for years, have done

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Speaker 2: their big league park is way different than every other

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Speaker 4: But is there any football coaches out there looking for jobs?

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Speaker 3: The raise decline.

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Speaker 1: They're twelve eleven trying to give Peter Fairbanks more money.

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Speaker 1: You're right, it's like, don't trade but thera, yeah, don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets a.

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Speaker 1: Million dollar buyout, So that million that I improvise guys, he's

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Ft and Kratzy. This might

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Speaker 2: I think I think he could have. I think it

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Speaker 2: I have to figure out exactly what it is. I

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Speaker 4: they really really are going to move the needle because

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Speaker 4: they value those picks so much. So in his case,

435
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Speaker 4: hopefully it's a good thing. Hopefully he lands with the

436
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Speaker 4: multi year deal and it's probably a lot easier without

437
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Speaker 4: the qualifying offer over your head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. In the days and age of people

439
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Speaker 1: like Prospect hugging, it does hurt guy's markets. And we've

440
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Speaker 1: seen that in the past, we've seen guys who have

441
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Speaker 1: that qualifying offer attached have to take a lesser deal

442
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Speaker 1: and kind of really changes the scope of their free agency,

443
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Speaker 1: and it's something that they can't control it all. So

444
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Speaker 1: you guys both played. I mean, as a player, how

445
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Speaker 1: frustrating would that be because so much of what the

446
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Speaker 1: team decides on this qualifying offer can at times dictate

447
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Speaker 1: what you are able to get in the winter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wasn't fortunate enough to really put

449
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Speaker 4: myself in a position to have a qualifying offer, but

450
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Speaker 4: I would be extremely frustrated because in no sport is

451
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Speaker 4: it harder to reach free agency. And then in some ways,

452
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Speaker 4: when you actually do get there as a here for agent,

453
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Speaker 4: you're not entirely free because, like you said, there's a

454
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Speaker 4: lot of organizations that value draft picks and prospects, and

455
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Speaker 4: you know, maybe you're not entirely you know, bidding against

456
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Speaker 4: every team, because there's some teams right off the top

457
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Speaker 4: that say, nope, you have a qualifying offer, We're not

458
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Speaker 4: going to offer you a deal.

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Speaker 2: I obviously never made the qualifying offer even discussion, but

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Speaker 2: I think anytime you take away from a player's value,

461
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Speaker 2: and when I say a player's value. You're not taking

462
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Speaker 2: away from Juan Soto's value, You're not taking away from

463
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Speaker 2: the elite players in baseball, but you're taking away the

464
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Speaker 2: value from that like what I would say the upper

465
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Speaker 2: middle class of Major League Baseball. Then the owners win.

466
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Speaker 2: The owners win because there's more of those guys than

467
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Speaker 2: there are of superstars, and the superstars are always going

468
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Speaker 2: to get paid. And I think the owners win anytime

469
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Speaker 2: you can hold down the majority salary than the minorities.

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Speaker 1: Right, and there was thirteen players if you're not familiar

471
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Speaker 1: who received that qualifying offer per Reports, that list is

472
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Speaker 1: right up there. Bobashett Dylan ce, Edwin Hazda, Gallin, Trent Grisham,

473
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Speaker 1: Shota Shota, Imanaga, Michael King, Kyle Schwarber, Ranger, Sworrez, Glabor Torres,

474
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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, Friend, Raveldez, and Brandrew Woodroff, who we discussed

475
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Speaker 1: earlier as well. So if they do sign with another team,

476
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Speaker 1: their original team will get a compensatory draft pick. This

477
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Speaker 1: is also something guys that you know, we're talking about

478
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Speaker 1: the big salary cap and the looming issues, but this

479
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Speaker 1: is something in every CBA there could be changes like

480
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Speaker 1: this is something that the players could say, hey, this

481
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Speaker 1: isn't fair when you change the way this is structured

482
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Speaker 1: as well, So this could maybe be one of the

483
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Speaker 1: last times we see something like this.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really kind of a weird part of the process,

486
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Speaker 1: and no other sport quite does it this way right

487
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Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, we have to pick between giving

488
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Speaker 1: you this offer, but then we give up a draft

489
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Speaker 1: pick and drafts are really important now ten fifteen years ago,

490
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Speaker 1: where gms were like not prospect hugging. So I wonder

491
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Speaker 1: if this is something a small thing, you know, way

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Speaker 1: down the list that players are like, can we can

493
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Speaker 1: we fix the system here a little bit? Because no,

494
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Speaker 1: maybe we should just go if like why do teams

495
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Speaker 1: need to get compensation at all?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like, am I wrong here?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Like?

501
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Speaker 3: No, the weirdest process.

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Speaker 4: It is a very weird process, and I don't fully

503
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Speaker 4: understand it. You know, this is where I'd like defer

504
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Speaker 4: to a Trevor May because he's so he knows all

505
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Speaker 4: this stuff so well. I mean, I live through this,

506
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Speaker 4: but like, there's been so many changes that I can't Obviously,

507
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Speaker 4: in negotiations, you're giving up something to give something. This

508
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Speaker 4: was one of those things that was given up. But

509
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Speaker 4: it just feels weird to me. I'm thinking about like

510
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Speaker 4: Boba Shitt. You know, guy drafted and developed by the

511
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Speaker 4: Toronto Blue Jays, does his six years and then you

512
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Speaker 4: put a qualifying offer on him. Is it like a

513
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Speaker 4: way of letting the fans know, like, hey, we still care,

514
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Speaker 4: but if you go, at least we get a draft pick.

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Speaker 4: It's really weird to me. And as a player, if

516
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Speaker 4: I was in that position, I would be a little

517
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Speaker 4: bit frustrated because, like I said, I don't a lot

518
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Speaker 4: of teams don't view you as entirely free when you

519
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Speaker 4: have this kind of thing weighing over your head, and

520
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Speaker 4: teams love draft picks and prospects so much. You know,

521
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Speaker 4: even if it takes away from one team that's willing

522
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Speaker 4: to negotiate from you, you work so damn hard to

523
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Speaker 4: become a free agent in baseball. I just don't think

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Speaker 4: it's right.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a big miss by the PA, by

526
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Speaker 2: the Players Association for not seeing the future of how

527
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Speaker 2: this will be used by the owners by the front offices,

528
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Speaker 2: because that is you essentially have one opportunity to go

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Speaker 2: to free agency as a player, if if the big if,

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Speaker 2: if you make it to six years, you become a

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Speaker 2: big league free agent, and that is tough to do.

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Speaker 2: And for that to even be squashed more it's almost

533
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Speaker 2: like they're saying, Okay, you know, yes, you made it

534
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Speaker 2: the free agency, but it's like another year that you have.

535
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Speaker 2: But you know, and when you're talking about negotiations, you

536
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Speaker 2: have to be cognizant of the fact that owners and

537
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Speaker 2: gms and front offices will always be there. Players get

538
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Speaker 2: one career and it is quick. It goes by super fast.

539
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Speaker 2: KP knows it. He was just playing this year and

540
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Speaker 2: now it's over. So anytime you give up anything like that,

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Speaker 2: you're really squashing your opportunity to earn the most that

542
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Speaker 2: you can in a sport that is tough, tough, tough

543
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Speaker 2: to play.

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Speaker 4: It's tough to earn too, really tough to earn in

545
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Speaker 4: the spot because I mean, you're you already your salary

546
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Speaker 4: set for your first three years, and then you go

547
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Speaker 4: through an arbitration process, which has its inefficiencies as well too,

548
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Speaker 4: and then you finally get out of that arbitration process

549
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Speaker 4: and you finally want to be free and you're not

550
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Speaker 4: entirely free. I think it's it's a miss. Hopefully it's

551
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Speaker 4: something that it's not just me as a former player

552
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Speaker 4: in Cratsey. Hopefully the current players right now kind of

553
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Speaker 4: see this as something where is it worth a lockout over? No,

554
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Speaker 4: but it's worth having a discussion over, like maybe fully

555
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Speaker 4: understanding what was kind of given up for this, you know,

556
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Speaker 4: maybe talking to people within the union like why did

557
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Speaker 4: we kind of come up or why did we agree

558
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Speaker 4: with this qualifying offer? And I know a lot of

559
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Speaker 4: it probably has to do with smaller market teams, you know, drafting,

560
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Speaker 4: developing guys and then really never having a chance of

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Speaker 4: re signing a guy, which in theory every team has

562
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Speaker 4: a chance to sign whoever the heck they want. Smaller

563
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Speaker 4: market teams don't choose to sign players. It's their kind

564
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Speaker 4: of reward of, Hey, you did a good job developing

565
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Speaker 4: this guy and you know, holding on to him for

566
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Speaker 4: six years, But as he walks out the door, we're

567
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Speaker 4: going to give you a little gift a draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I agree. You heard it here first on

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Speaker 3: FT News.

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Speaker 1: Here the Dodgers designated for assignment start Tony Gonsolin and

571
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Speaker 1: add outfielder Ryan Ward and left handed pitcher Robinson Ortiz

572
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Speaker 1: to their forty man roster. They also outrighted Justin Dean

573
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Speaker 1: and Michael Grove. This is obviously a lot of housekeeping

574
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Speaker 1: this time of year. But Tony Gonsolin, because he was

575
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Speaker 1: part of that World championship team, because he's been a

576
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Speaker 1: part of that team for a while, kind of jumped

577
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Speaker 1: out to me, guys like it's probably the end of

578
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: the road for him with the Dodgers here. But great

579
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Speaker 1: career in LA, great job in LA. I don't think

580
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Speaker 1: there's a whole lot, you know, you can say if

581
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Speaker 1: you're Tony Gonsolin about his time there, But clearly this

582
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Speaker 1: is the Dodgers making space to ad payroll to ad

583
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Speaker 1: players ahead of the free agency bonanza that we're going

584
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Speaker 1: to see.

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Speaker 4: I would be in line if I was a Major

586
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Speaker 4: league GM of wanting that guy to be on my

587
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Speaker 4: roster when healthy. He is as good as it gets.

588
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: I mean, is he quite a one, No, But he's

589
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Speaker 4: a really solid addition. Up until his recent histories, he's

590
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: been a guy who's been able to take the ball,

591
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Speaker 4: and I think he's got really really good stuff. So

592
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Speaker 4: if I'm a GM out there right now, He's a

593
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Speaker 4: guy that I'm on the phone with right now seeing

594
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Speaker 4: whatever it takes to get a deal done, because I

595
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Speaker 4: think he can help a lot of teams.

596
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Speaker 2: Some of these some of these options, some of these

597
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: DFAs and that kind of stuff really work out for

598
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Speaker 2: the player because where's the where are you going to

599
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Speaker 2: slot in with the team that you're at, And even

600
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Speaker 2: if you know, maybe you get traded, you're still on

601
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Speaker 2: your current contract. Now, these guys, normally, most of these guys,

602
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Speaker 2: like when we talked about Pete Fairbanks, you have an

603
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Speaker 2: opportunity to get a little bit more of a lucrative

604
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Speaker 2: longer term, maybe more guaranteed money, and it just adds

605
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Speaker 2: a little a layer of security for your family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think this starting put your market

607
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Speaker 1: on the on the free agent side is going to

608
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Speaker 1: be fascinating. There's some like real upgrades out there. Obviously,

609
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Speaker 1: if Tek's Google gets traded, that's going to create a

610
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Speaker 1: domino effect. But you look at just who's available, not

611
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Speaker 1: including like potential trades here and there are some really

612
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Speaker 1: interesting names and I think that there's obviously, like the

613
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Speaker 1: always is a lot of teams after it, but some

614
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Speaker 1: big market teams like the Mets.

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Speaker 3: Really, you know, we're going to.

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Speaker 1: Flex their muscle here because they have to add in

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Speaker 1: my mind, two starters, you know, at least two top

618
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Speaker 1: end starters, and then go down with the young guys

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Speaker 1: as their depth. And so when teams like that are

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Speaker 1: going to be that aggressive, I think it's only good

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Speaker 1: for the guys that are out there that are available.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of big fish chasing

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Speaker 1: these guys.

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Speaker 5: Guardians left fielder Stephen Kwan, who is controlled through twenty

625
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Speaker 5: twenty seven. Now you talk about it, you watch the

626
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Speaker 5: Blue Jays playing in the World Series ago, they put

627
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Speaker 5: the ball in play, they didn't strike out man. That

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Speaker 5: is Stephen Kwan to a t. But you look at

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Speaker 5: his last year he was like a below average offensive performer.

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Speaker 5: He really fell off from twenty twenty four, and you

631
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Speaker 5: look at his first four years of his career is

632
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Speaker 5: really really good blow lea garbage, really really good blowly gabage.

633
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Speaker 5: So I guess, like you said, Jimmer's risk with every player,

634
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Speaker 5: but Stephen Kwan, he would certainly give you more contact.

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Speaker 2: He's a great defender.

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Speaker 6: He they were on him in this summer, The Phillies

637
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Speaker 6: were on him, and I heard the Guardians almost said

638
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Speaker 6: the Indians would not get off the name Aiden Miller.

639
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Speaker 6: So if they're still on that on that name, he

640
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Speaker 6: probably not going to get him, but it is I

641
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Speaker 6: do look at you know, he doesn't strike out, and

642
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Speaker 6: that would be very appealing in this lineup to add

643
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Speaker 6: a bat that doesn't strike out.

644
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Speaker 2: But he also doesn't really slug.

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Speaker 6: And you can say what you want about the the

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Speaker 6: Blue Jays putting the ball play, and I agree they

647
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Speaker 6: led to majors and hitting. They put the ball play.

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Speaker 6: They don't strike out a lot, and that's great. Every

649
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Speaker 6: game they won in the postseason they hit a home run,

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Speaker 6: you know, so I would like to have a little

651
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 6: bit of slug as well. I'm concerned that he was

652
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 6: below below league average across the kind of across the

653
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 6: board offensively last year, but you know, there's a lot

654
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 6: to like there. I'm sure Cleveland's gonna have a very

655
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 6: high price on him.

656
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Stephen Kwan is a guy who

657
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: also like every time you watch a Cleveland game, he

658
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: impacts the game like he even if he doesn't have

659
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: any hits, he impacts the game. I feel like he

660
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: brings a lot of the intangibles on a lot of

661
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: the stuff that Craig was talking about about the Cleveland

662
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: way of playing. To me, Stephen Kwan kind of embodies that.

663
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he impacted the All Star Game. He pushed the

664
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Speaker 2: All Star Game into extra home run swings. I don't

665
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: know how you say that, but like he's gonna always

666
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: put up a good at bat. Are you okay? To me?

667
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: I think Stephen Kwan is a piece to the puzzle.

668
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: And the Phillies already have enough slug. Yes, Trey Turner

669
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: doesn't slug as much as the other guys, but the

670
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: Phillies were low on slug this past season. Before that

671
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: they were okay. So they they diminished their strikeout rate

672
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: last year, and to me, it's like, how far do

673
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: you go? Stephen Kwan is is a plus ad to

674
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Speaker 2: any team he gets out of.

675
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: Oh who wrote this.

676
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: The best player of his generation? Fade away? I did

677
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: not know we were discussing. This is my column from

678
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: earlier in the week.

679
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: About something that's been bothering me.

680
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Guys like and I talked to Derek Peter and Calrican Jr.

681
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: And like other like all time grades about this, Like,

682
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: does your perspective of Mike Trout change knowing that he

683
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: has not won a playoff game, and that essen stands

684
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: right now. He even if he got there, wouldn't be

685
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: that Mike Trout again. So he had that ten years

686
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: of dominance and kind of feels like he's faded away

687
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: in the saddest way for baseball. So I want to

688
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: know for you guys, to.

689
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: Tell me how you feel, how you really feel.

690
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: I feel sad.

691
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: I feel sad because I feel like, like my mom

692
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: was a big baseball fan. The other day was like,

693
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: Mike Trout is so overrated, and I feel like people

694
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: say that a lot who just don't understand how good

695
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: he was for ten years and how much nobody knew

696
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: he was good for ten years. That's the problem. Now

697
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: baseball's at an all time high end viewership. We've got all

698
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: these stars, it's never been easier to make the playoffs,

699
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: and we've got Mike Trout doing nothing but testifying in

700
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: a wrongful debt Tyler skag suit with the Angels. It's

701
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: the only time you'll see him in October. I think

702
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: it's just a really sad story for baseball.

703
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: Around free Mike Trout. I think it's time he doesn't

704
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: want to be free. I think I think loyalty is

705
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 4: like a great quality to have. I'd like to think

706
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 4: I'm a very loyal person. It's probably my tragic flaw

707
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: is when you're in with me, you're in with me,

708
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: and like, I'm never breaking free from that. And Mike

709
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: has obviously proven that he's very loyal to the Angels.

710
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 4: But what have the Angels ever really done for him?

711
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: You know, they haven't really built a team around him.

712
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: I know they had Otani for a short amount of time,

713
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: but they haven't really built a team around him. I think,

714
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: you know, and maybe Mike doesn't want to leave. You know,

715
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 4: why would you want to leave Southern California live in

716
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 4: Newport Beach. It's great, But I think Mike is deserving

717
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: of being on a team that is gonna go to

718
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: the playoffs. I know there's one team that Mike would

719
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: be willing to go to, and that's Philadelphia, so we

720
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: could be close to home. So maybe it's time they

721
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: try to figure out a deal to get Mike to

722
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: Philly and allow him to play in some postseason and

723
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: allow his greatness to shine once again.

724
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the saying is, if you know,

725
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: you know, But I think sometimes in baseball, if you

726
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: don't know, you don't know. He's never been in another

727
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: organization ever. And we clamor for guys to stay. We

728
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: clamor for Clayton Kershall, don't sign with the Rangers. I

729
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: know you'll go home. We want you to stay in

730
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Speaker 2: an organization. We want to see Mike Trout on a

731
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: team that's in the playoffs. Mike tried at four hundred

732
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: and fifty three at bats last year and he had

733
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: twenty six homers. I still think there's more. Even though

734
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Speaker 2: Britt wrote an article staying there is it's.

735
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: Did I I did not say that?

736
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's check out this Instagram post from Bett

737
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: MGM cities with the most championships in the four major

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Speaker 1: sports since twenty ten. You see La at the top,

739
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: hid per second, Boston and San Francisco. Then we have Miami,

740
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Speaker 1: Kansas City, and Chicago.

741
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Speaker 3: On that list.

742
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Speaker 1: So not a super surprising list, but definitely a group

743
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Speaker 1: that I think if you look at you look at

744
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: those cities, you're like, yeah, well LA is a top

745
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: because they've won three times since twenty twenty, so like, yeah,

746
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: they are a little bit of like a modern dynasty. There,

747
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: you guys surprised by that, Chicago, Miami a little surprised.

748
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Speaker 4: Now, Miami surprised me a little bit. I had to think.

749
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Speaker 4: I had to go like through my roller decks of

750
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Speaker 4: sports teams, and then I remember the heat were pretty

751
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: good and had been pretty good. But yeah, I was

752
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: a little bit surprised to see Miami on there.

753
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Speaker 2: Going back to Cali strictly for the weather women in

754
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: the World Championships, I guess San fran and La all

755
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: in there.

756
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know.

757
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Speaker 1: I mean I think, yeah, you have to remember that

758
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Speaker 1: a world exists outside of baseball, because I'm like, why

759
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: is Houston on a list?

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00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 7: Oh?

761
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: Right, right? Because they just don't have the other sports.

762
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Speaker 1: And then of course Houston, I mean they didn't win

763
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: back to back.

764
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Speaker 3: They certainly won a lot.

765
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: They got there a lot they got there in loss.

766
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: So I have to remember that this is not just

767
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: a baseball specific list.

768
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Speaker 4: We are counting the Golden State Warriors as San Francisco.

769
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Speaker 4: I'm assuming, right, that's okay, okay, because when I saw

770
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Speaker 4: that too, I'm like, okay, I know they had their

771
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: run in the you know, twenty tens, you know, in baseball.

772
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 4: Like you said, it's not just baseball. You know the Niners,

773
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: haven't I guess when did they win? Did they win?

774
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 5: No?

775
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: So I guess it's really the Golden State Warriors carrying

776
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: that list.

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00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, I would love to see

778
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: a list of like championships that people largely forgot about,

779
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: because like remember the like nineteen nineties New Jersey Devils,

780
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: Like where were those celebrations a parking lot? I mean,

781
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm from Connecticut. I felt like, you're like, it's not

782
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: a huge deal, like our teen pro door. Give the

783
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: guy a little props, you know. I feel like the

784
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: we just forgot about how good they were back in

785
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: the day. But that's where's the list team forget.

786
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: I love your passion for hockey, you lost me when

787
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: you send New Jersey Devils.

788
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: All right, guys, uh, we've got uh, we've got bet

789
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: MGM here, get your steak back in cash if your

790
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: first touchdown scorer scores second. Instead, bet on any pro

791
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: football players score the first touchdown of the game.

792
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: If you're right, you win.

793
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: If your player score second, you get your stake back

794
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: in cash. Gambling problem or concern Call one eight hundred gambler.

795
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

796
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: That's what he said.

797
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

798
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 5: That's what he said.

799
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 7: Obviously, Josh, they haven't signed a multi year free agent

800
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 7: since you were still in a Pirates uniform, So I

801
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 7: think there it's time to break that stigma. It's yes,

802
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 7: Vonova was the last multi year free agent.

803
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty seventeen.

804
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: Thank you for there, Thank you for yeah.

805
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 5: I mean wow yeah, mm hmmm speechless this time?

806
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: Yes, Uh, the Pirates will leave you speechless. That's just

807
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of what it does. Guys, I have a that's

808
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: what she said, real quick, KP. This has been bothering

809
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: me since I saw you at the playoff, says, anyone

810
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: ever told you that you look like Kevin Gossman, like

811
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: a clean shaven Kevin Gossman. Oh, you get a side

812
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: by side here, that's that's Cody Stavenhagen. I would like

813
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: KP versus KG here. That is where I think they

814
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: look like.

815
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: Though.

816
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: It's nice to see our good pal Cody Steve in

817
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: Hagen again, you look like Kevin Gosman.

818
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: Do you see it?

819
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 8: Cratzy, No, I've never I've never been told that. I've

820
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 8: never been Do you do without the beard and Kevin

821
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 8: Gosman without the beard. Maybe because I often covered Kevin

822
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 8: when he came up. He's a little younger, so saw

823
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 8: that a lot of the clean.

824
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: Shaven Kevin Gosman he looks. You guys look similar. It's

825
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: been bothering me. No one's told you that in Toronto.

826
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: No one has told you that.

827
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: I think k I think. I think KP looks like

828
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: a mix between Brad Pitt, Tyler glass Now and George Clooney.

829
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: It's like a It's like a perfect mix of those

830
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: three guys. That's KP.

831
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: Definitely, the wrinkles like Clooney. Though you know, I got

832
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: the age.

833
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: I can't get past not wrinkles. Interesting.

834
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Interesting, I love the I loved the I just I

835
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: can't unsee it. The Kevin Gosman thing, I can't unsee it.

836
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: I need to see it.

837
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: I know they're working hard right now to do it,

838
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: but they.

839
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Speaker 3: Are work smart. I think they thought I might saving again.

840
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: But it definitely there's definitely a lot of similarities between

841
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 1: you and Kevin.

842
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, similarities.

843
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: When I threw up that first pitch, I held a splitter.

844
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: I was trying to get that down action. I just

845
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: held onto it a little too long, you know.

846
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: Is that what it was?

847
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: No?

848
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: No, no, you just yard you just yard darted it.

849
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: But Gosman split, He like has that one eyebrow up

850
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: when he's pitching, and he's always like, I can't even

851
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: do it. I can't make my one eyebrow go up.

852
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: But he's he's got that good locked in face. Yeah

853
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: I can do it. You can't do it.

854
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think you can.

855
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: I think you need like a like an overactive muscle

856
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: on one side. Right, I don't know it's Kryptoni.

857
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

858
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: See no, see like, there is a lot of similarities.

859
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

860
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I don't hate it.

861
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: I don't hate it either.

862
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't hate it, especially if you shave kp here.

863
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: There's just a lot.

864
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: My kids have never seen me without a beard.

865
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: Scary day, interesting.

866
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: Kevin, And they're going to be like, who my dad?

867
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: Who are you?

868
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

869
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Speaker 1: You got to keep it for November. Isn't the no

870
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: shave November thing?

871
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: Right?

872
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 4: Hockey? Before we no, that's playoff beers, playoff beers.

873
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: Playoff beards. Yes, before we hit the break KP. I

874
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: need to hear your because you've been a free agent.

875
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: How many times that stat about the fact that the

876
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: last person they sought the Pirates signed with Ivon Nova.

877
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Is that crazy to you? Or is that sad to you?

878
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 4: No, it's sad.

879
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 2: It's not crazy.

880
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: It's sad because you can't expect to win if you

881
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: only bring in players for one year. At the end

882
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: of the day, you own a Major League Baseball team.

883
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 4: If you don't want to own that team, sell them.

884
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: You probably are going to make a ton of money

885
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: on them. And if you can't find it within your

886
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: ownership group, within your pocketbook to go out and sign

887
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: players for multiple years, you don't deserve to own a team.

888
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 4: It's sad. You know my reaction is much different than

889
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: Josh Harrison's. He was speechless.

890
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: I'm not speechless.

891
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: Because I think it's really sad and the fans of

892
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh deserve better.

893
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: All Right, A little news la Troy Hawkins with the Twins,

894
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: bullpen coach next season for Derek Shelton's FIRS staff in Minnesota.

895
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: Twenty one year MLB veteran. This is great for the game.

896
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I agree with Bob Mangel it is great for the game,

897
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: a guy who's universally liked, well respected. Listen, if Derek

898
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: Shelton is going to come out from under, you know

899
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he's very familiar to Twins fans. If

900
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: they're actually going to do something different, then they need

901
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: to make some energizing hires, and I think this is

902
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: one of them.

903
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: Guys.

904
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: I think this is something that is.

905
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: Going to get at least some fans excited, and that

906
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: is a fan base who is just very upset right now,

907
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: and very rightfully so over what's transpired.

908
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: In my opinion, it's much better than hiring someone out

909
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: of another sport. I love I played with LaTroy Latroit

910
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: obviously played LaTroy spent twenty one years of his life

911
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 4: sitting in a bullpen. Who better to kind of usher

912
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 4: these guys in and out of the bullpen, to talk strategy,

913
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 4: to teach guys how to prepare. It's a great hire.

914
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: He obviously has a connection to the Minnesota fan base,

915
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: the organization, He's worked within the organization over the last

916
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: couple of years. I think it's a great hire.

917
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: He has got what the kids call aura, and he

918
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: didn't spend his entire career in the bullpen. I wanted

919
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: to see how many starts he made. He made his

920
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: first four year, five years he was a starter. Then

921
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: he said, I'm going to the bullpen. So there's something

922
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: to be said about somebody who lasted that long in

923
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: the bullpen to be able to play in nineteen ninety

924
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: five and still in twenty fifteen with KP. It's understanding

925
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: that your role changes, understanding how everything moves and shakes.

926
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: You're not just always the bullpen guy. You're not just

927
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: always the guy the seventh in, the guy eighth and

928
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: a guy ninth inning guy. You got to be able

929
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: to change. And I think he'll bring that because I

930
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: worked with him for like a day when it was

931
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: with Team USA, and I love everything about him I

932
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: was Unfortunately I never got to play with him, So.

933
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty And I would say the bullpen

934
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: arm is like unless you're the elite closer, like the

935
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 4: kind of mid tier middle relief guy is like the

936
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 4: most expendable human being in the baseball world. You could

937
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 4: just pick up a guy you know from who gets

938
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: DFAD or you know, a Rule five guy, and you

939
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 4: could throw him in the bullpen for a guy to last,

940
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: you know, what was that? Fifteen sixteen years in the bullpen?

941
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 4: And I know we had some points in his career

942
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: where he was pitching at the back end. But to

943
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 4: survive even ten years of being kind of a floater

944
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 4: in the bullpen kind of just doing whatever the team

945
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: needs you to do is incredible. So who better to

946
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: learn from than a guy like la Troy Hawkins?

947
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: Nice? What did I win? I got a KP. I

948
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: got a KP catch there Brent Jeroli on the bench

949
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: where I spent most of my career. I got one

950
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: of Scott's Emmy's. Do I have a Tony up there?

951
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Speaker 7: Too?

952
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: Do I have a Tony Award winner? I'm not sure

953
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: what the hot dog is doing? The hot dogs a

954
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: little a little provocative there. I'm not sure what's the

955
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: top award? Do you guys know what the top award is?

956
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

957
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 3: Looks fancy though, it looks like.

958
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for a Friday. Claudia normally brings it,

959
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: but absolutely today she brought it one hundred.

960
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: Hey, I have a question for you guys. I got

961
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: I got a serious question. You guys can give me

962
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: an honest answer. God, is it too early for me

963
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 4: to put my Christmas lights up.

964
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Pratzy Pratty says no, I say yes.

965
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 4: When when's that cut off? When's that cut off for you? Also,

966
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: let me give you a little context. Let me give

967
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: you a little context too. I am leaving for the

968
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: week at Thanksgiving to go see my in laws, so

969
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm missing that week. So I feel like I need

970
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: to get it done before.

971
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: Okay, with that context, I say, you can do it before.

972
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: But in general, I feel like once Halloween is over,

973
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: I see like people take down there like pumpkins, and

974
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden.

975
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: It's Christmas.

976
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Speaker 1: And I love Thanksgiving. There's no presence involved. It's all

977
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: about just sitting around and eating and your fat pants,

978
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: watching football, then eating more pie and then passing out.

979
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Speaker 1: Why are we like rushing to get to Christmas? It's

980
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving never gets hits too.

981
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: It's not rush come to your house for Thanksgiving because

982
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 4: that sounds incredible. Fat pants, eat, eat more, watch football,

983
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: and then pass out.

984
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: KP's never had KP's never had a Thanksgiving. He's never

985
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: had a Thanksgiving. Since he's been a player, He's gone

986
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving, but he's been like, I gotta still focused.

987
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: Where are we going. I gotta train, okay, two hours

988
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: in the morning and then and I gotta hit because

989
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: that's when I'm starting to hit. Now. This is KP's

990
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: first double dip of the pumpkin Pie.

991
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 4: I'll make sure my wife sends you guys a picture

992
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: of me passed out. I don't know if it's gonna

993
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: be food or pie. It might be something else, but

994
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: I'm going to pass out on my first thing.

995
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: The meal isn't over when you're full. It's over when

996
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: you hate yourself.

997
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: Remember that.

998
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I love that.

999
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: Put them up.

1000
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: I want to see a picture. It was great filling in,

1001
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Speaker 1: It was great seeing you guys. Thank you everyone for

1002
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: tuning in, listening along. Richiaroli, Aerocrats, Kevin Polar here put

1003
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: up those Christmas decorations. I guess I sound like Scrooge now.

1004
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: Saying no, gosh, I'm going to it.

1005
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: Let a spot start by you, Britt. Nice work.