1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rutt Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is rut Fresh 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Radio powered by Vortex Optics. I'm your host, Tyler Jones, 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: and this week we're hearing from many guys who say 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the warm temperatures have affected RUT movement, but there's a 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: cold front on the horizon and it's given us hope. 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: This is a rut Fresh Radio podcast brought to you 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: by Vortex Optics. I'm your host, Tyler Jones, and I've 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: got in the passenger seat right here, hanging out the 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: passenger side. Oh, he's just hanging out right here with me. 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: We've been hunting this morning. It's worn. Look at all 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: these used broadheads on your dash. Yeah, you have a collection. 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: I've got a few man of to shoot. Well that one? 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: What did What did I hit with that one? Goodness? 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't, oh, Dad, that that's We talked about that 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: one already on this podcast. South Dakota, yep, Um, there's 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: some with dirt or some that are blown up. I 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: did hit a very big buck on the hardest bone 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: in his body with that. We talked about it. Anyway, 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: We've got uh some pretty cool fellers on this podcast 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: this week. UM, so we're gonna be hearing from them 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: in a second about what to expect in the second 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: week of the rut. But as of right now, Casey, 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: we had a pretty good first week. Then we sure 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: enough did man and you know, honestly, UM, it wasn't 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: all that ruddy, but it was a good first week 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: in November. Uh. I suppose, um, you and I both 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: killed bucks. I suppose that happened really nasty, very exciting. 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: So we hunted Kansas the first week in November, um 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: and one week one one week in actually five days 32 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: in November. UM. But so let's just go ahead and 33 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: kind of set the stage here. We head up because 34 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: November is just like the month, right, It's the month 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: that we all like want to do this thing. So 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: November one, you probably need to be hunting. And even 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: though like I really think like the fourth is wind 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: like it's really like starting to do the thing, right, 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: But we get there for the first to hunt and 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: um kind of like making their plans, but we always 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: like kind of show up with like a forty eight 42 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: hour top mentality, like there's just the odds of you 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: shooting deer on the first night or just so low right, Yeah, 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: they sure are sure. I Um, I talked about this 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: in the post that I made. But Mr. December is 46 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: what my name is. Uh, that's what my dad calls me, 47 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: at least. And uh it's because I'm always like running 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: around chasing a deer um in late December usually or 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: in December, trying to find some you know, there's some 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: old eight year old with eight or less points that's 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: like nine years old, and I've got to find out, 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, how to shoot this deer and what pattern 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: he's on late season, which I actually do like late 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: season a lot. I've had some pretty good success there. Um. 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: But yes, it's uh, it's pretty Um, it's a it's 56 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: a pretty odd thing to be trying to tag out 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: on the first afternoon, you know. But we get up 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: there and uh rolling to a stand and me and 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: Eric are just sitting there and it's sunny, kind of warm, 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: very windy, and I, um, I play a game. I 61 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: play Solitaire on my phone until I win. Okay, so 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: it's early, you know what I mean, Give me a 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: break here, overn first early in the day, playing Solitaire. 64 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: I finally win a game after a couple and then 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: that's why we call you people. That's it. That's it. 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: And then I go into uh. I go into my 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Bible app and read Josea. Uh no, actually I finished 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: Daniel and then went into Josea and I'm like two 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: chapters in and Eric goes there's a buck. I was like, oh, 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I guess I early, you know, and uh and and 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm like I don't move and I'm like how far 72 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: he goes fifty? It's like he's not a shooter. And 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, I just look up, you know. 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: As I look up and I see him, it's Wendy too, 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: so I wasn't too worried a back getting seen. Well, 76 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: he's like he's like maybe like a pope and young type. 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: He's pretty solid, you know, like you just called him 78 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: a not shooter real quick. But this is a place 79 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: that's pretty special, right, you're just average public land property. 80 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: This is a piece of permission that you've hunted for 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, for sure. And so um, anyway, 82 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: we watch this buck comes down, makes a scrape, we 83 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: get video. That's cool, man, it's cool. You are gonna 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: be able to see us here in the the next few months. 85 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: I need to give all the details. I should folks 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: go check out the Element podcast. They definitely can check 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: out the Element podcast. But this deer comes down and 88 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: gives he makes a scrape and it's it's awesome, and 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: he goes in front of us and uh, basically gets 90 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: kind of weird and then things happen, but I can't 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: tell you how it happens. Exciting, Yeah, yeah, So anyway, 92 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: it was, it was a good night. I did end 93 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: up shooting a buck and um, you can check out 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: our your Instagram to see that buck. Um we posted 95 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: probably on the second or third or something like that. 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: And then uh, a few days later, a few days 97 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: go by, Uh, you're not feeling very well. You're very 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: very negative for you for a casey, it was mentally 99 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: defeated at one point in time because, uh, there's just 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: not a ton of public ground around our area that 101 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: we hunt, but there's a couple of good places and 102 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: when the winds bad, um for that, you're just like toast. 103 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: And I was feeling like that, and like the projected 104 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: forecast was that way for a few days. I was like, 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm out, I have no way. And then we just 106 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: start working the phones calling landowners and Tyler just pulls 107 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: one out, man, and it's awesome, an awesome piece of 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: permission that we get. And we go truck scout this 109 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: thing in the buck truck, uh, driving around, decided to 110 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: hang a camera and then while we're out hanging the camera, 111 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: I get that tingle that you don't want down. You know, 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: it ain't a rut tingle. And from there on, like 113 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: I had the stomach virus for about uh ten hours 114 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: or so. Man, Yeah it was rough. Yeah I I 115 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're feeling better, so we'll say that. But yeah, 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: then there's some pretty cool things that happened on that track. 117 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: The next morning, there's some really cool things that happened. 118 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: And we will just leave it at that. But you 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: can go check out some of our feed stuff to 120 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: to see maybe what's going on and if you want 121 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the full store on that. But guys, it's happening right now. 122 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: It's time to be excited. Big bucks are hitting the 123 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: ground all over the country. Uh with people that Uh 124 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: people are good hunting, bad hunting don't matter, man, just 125 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: get out there and hunt, you know, if you feel 126 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: like you're a bad hunter. Hut right now because it's time, dude, 127 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: It's time to go right now. We're actually almost killed 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: a buck last night. You almost did. Yeah, you rattled 129 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: him in for me. Hey, the calling is working right now, 130 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: by the way. Uh, I think that if you're going 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: to bust out rattling antlers, if you're gonna bust out 132 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: grunt calls, right now is the time to do it. Absolutely, 133 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: love it, man, It's fun. Get in a place, maybe 134 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: you can see a little ways, you know, the way 135 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: I am. I really don't like to blind rattle all 136 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: that much. It's fun, don't get me wrong, but you 137 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: get surprised by dear and then you have to make 138 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: a quick decision if it's a shooter and all that 139 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But like, if you can get eyes 140 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: on a buck, this is a bill Winky thing, right. 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: If you can get eyes on a buck and call 142 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: to a buck, you see, your odds are really good 143 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: of that going well for you. And that's what we 144 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: did last night. We saw a buck, called to him 145 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: and brought him in close to you. You just didn't 146 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: get a good shot at him. It's kind of far. 147 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: So we had a public land hunter help us out, 148 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: didn't we help? It's interesting how it works. Yeah, we'll 149 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: talk about that on the podcast on our Element podcast 150 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: to just give you a little a little bigger story there. 151 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, this week, we've got some guys that 152 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: are gonna be talking about what to expect in the 153 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: next week, whether it's calling like Casey said, or uh 154 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: just playing, sitting in a funnel, pinch, whatever you wanna 155 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: call it. Um, this next week is gonna be a 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: great week, I think across the country everything is ready 157 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: to pop and the weather, I think is gonna make 158 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: that thing happen. So uh, this week on the podcast, 159 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: we've got our friend Brian Bostick, who helps us out 160 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: quite a bit here at the Element. Uh, he's got 161 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: a Texas report for us. Brian is a great, great shot. 162 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: He actually is a state champion archer in high school. 163 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: So you'll hear me poke fun at him, but just 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: know he's a he's an incredible shot. Uh, Sam, so 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: hold up in North Dakota, Tyler Freel in Kentucky. This 166 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: is one of his first times to harvest the deer, 167 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: which is pretty cool perspective he's got there. And then 168 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: we've got our old friend Jared Mills from Iowa, who 169 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: shoots the biggest, most jealous worthy deer every year. So 170 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: those are that's say we've got on the podcast this week. 171 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: Anything else we need to talk about here before we 172 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: get to him, I'd say we can talk about Mark, 173 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: but there's really no reason to say Mark actually having 174 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: a pretty good bucks. He did, man, he shot Hiven 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: a good deer. So everybody's uh, even even the lowliest 176 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: of hunters right now are killing them. And I'm gonna 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: let you all the side between three of us who 178 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: that is when he's not on here, because then we 179 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: can just poke the most fun, you know. But um, 180 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know this or not, but 181 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: Mark's gonna come down in December and hunt with us 182 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: in Texas and we're gonna have a real good time. 183 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: So uh, y'all look forward to that and look forward 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: to this week because it's about to go down. Let's 185 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: get the reports from the guys all right on the phone. Now, 186 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: I've got Brian Bostick down in Texas. Hey, can you 187 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: explain to me the mentality behind purposefully missing a deer? Well, guys, 188 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: you have to build some spins to your story. Oh 189 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: my excuse, and I'm sticking to it. I like it. 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but it did happen yesterday. Yeah. So okay, 191 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: so you must be seeing some movements. Can you tell 192 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: us about what's been going on in Texas as far 193 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: as movement there. I've been hunting primarily East Texas and 194 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: it is happening. Um. I think a couple of these 195 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: doughs are starting to come and heat and the bucks 196 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: are moving. Um. I have been seeing lots of bucks 197 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: chasing UM, lots of rud activity, scrapes. Um. It's it's 198 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: my favorite time of the year to be in the woods. Yeah. 199 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: So you're seeing some scrape action. Huh. Scrapes yep. Um. 200 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Here in the last month, all of the oaks have 201 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: started dropping acrons. So it's kind of spread some of 202 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: these deer out. But if I can get in an 203 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: area that have some good scrapes and some good activity, um, 204 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: I've seen some really good bucks. Are you still are 205 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: you still seeing acrons? Um? Being an active food source 206 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: right now, They I think are primary food source right now. Um. 207 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: I have lots of baked polls out deer feeders going um, 208 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: and they are avoiding them. Um. But if I can 209 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: get in a good bottom with some oak trees that 210 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: are actively dropping um acrons there they are on them, 211 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: that's cool. So also the moon could possibly play a 212 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: factor right now. I know it's kind of coming up 213 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: on a full moon. Is that something you pay too 214 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: much of attention to? Um? I not as not as 215 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: much as some guys do. Not a mooner who like 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: hunter is No, I'm not, um, but you know it 217 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: does kee me in to kind of look at the 218 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: activity on my cameras a little more yea, and and 219 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: you can pattern something, dear. I have noticed here in 220 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the last week that a lot of these deer is 221 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: to run also, but they're starting to move later in 222 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: the mornings too. Um, there's been some real good nine 223 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: to ten o'clock activity, So I think some of that 224 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: does have to do with the moon. Have you seen 225 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: any chasing or is it mostly just cruising in your opinion? 226 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: I am seeing some chasing, man, So I think you know, 227 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: some of these younger Bucks has kind of started playing around, 228 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: um with some does. But when you see three Bucks 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: on a dough, you know she's probably eat a couple 230 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: of times. That's exciting. So as we are looking at 231 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: you know, bucks in that full on chase mode and 232 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: dear kind of going everywhere. Do you tend to be 233 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: a guy who wants to stay in the same spot 234 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: day in and day out and play the probability of 235 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: a deer coming by? Are you doing hanging hunts and 236 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: hopping around trying to outsmart them? I think with these 237 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: acorns dropping, it has spread a lot of these deer out, 238 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: so I am having to move around a little more. 239 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: Plus some of these areas that I have been feeding 240 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: these doves, um for the last couple of months, I've 241 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: noticed that the doves stay in the area and there's 242 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: been a lot of new bucks moved in. So I'm 243 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: hunting some of those spots that I've been feeding for 244 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of months that are keeping those doves around. 245 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: With three bucks in front of you, you still missed 246 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: it was it was one guys, you know, you know 247 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: the story. Um, my first dear to ever miss with 248 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: a bow, and it was at fifteen yards. Um. You know, 249 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I've seen them dear misses at fifteen yards and I 250 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: always thought, how how can a guy miss a fifty yards? 251 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: And here I am, I'm radio in your hunts that's 252 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: how you know it was. You know, I think it 253 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: was a good thing. There's bigger bucks in the area. UM. 254 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have gotten that buck. Um, 255 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: but my season is not over. So we only get 256 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: one buck here in these Texas. And you know if 257 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: I would hardst harvested that year then to put it 258 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: into my season here in Texas. So I say this 259 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: just because the first time I ever met Brian, it 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: was like I saw that he made a forty yard 261 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: hartshot on a frontal forty pound deer and he was 262 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: archery state champion. So I can say this stuff. You know, 263 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: if he was just kind of a whole hum archer, 264 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't be making so making it so hard 265 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: on him right now. But with with that said, man, 266 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: all the all the action you've seen, Uh, what does 267 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: it lead you to think is gonna be? You know, 268 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: where do you need to be next week? What do 269 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: you need to be hunting? What patterns? What what tactics 270 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: are you using? I think you guys need to be 271 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: in the woods. Um. I think here in the next 272 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, it's gonna it's gonna be on fire. UM. 273 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: I think you're starting to see a couple of those 274 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: coming heat. But I think in the in the following weeks, um, 275 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: it is really gonna fire up. I think we have 276 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: a cold front coming through Friday, um, and this moon 277 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: should be diminishing a little bit, and I think the 278 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: hunting is gonna be really good. Got you. So, on 279 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, what would you rank 280 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Buck movement as coming up next week? If you had 281 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: to guess, I would say currently of five next week 282 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: to a seven numbers, Yeah, those are good numbers, realistic. 283 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really really good hunting. Awesome, dude. Well, 284 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: thanks for hopping on the phone with us, Brian and 285 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: uh we're talking you seen man? Of course, guys, you'll 286 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: be careful. Okay, Now on the phone, I've got Jared Mills. 287 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: He's a good buddy of ours. And Jared's up in Ioway. 288 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Has been hunting a little bit lately, had some success 289 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: in October as well. Jared, what's been going on? Man, 290 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: Not much, guys. It's uh light light Fooch has definitely 291 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: flipped here in Iowa. It's been It was a little 292 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: bit of a rough go there right at the end 293 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: of October, and in the first couple of days in November, 294 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: mostly just weather related, warm and windy, and a couple 295 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: of days of rain. But I'd say to three days ago, 296 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: once that weather moved out of here, it's been uh, 297 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: it's been full bore. Lots of bucks sit in the ground. 298 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: I've been out the past couple of mornings actually just 299 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: to get get on this call. I just left from 300 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: uh taking pictures and helping the guy recover a really 301 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: good ten just a half hour ago. So that's cool. 302 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: It's definitely on here in iwall. That's good. What are 303 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: the temps like right now? Uh? Right now, we're I 304 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: think the highest fifty today, so, which is much better 305 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: than it has been. I think we're gonna maybe have 306 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: one little warm up here midweek, but then after that 307 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be much more seasonal. Um highs in the 308 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: forties and you can't can't get much better than that. 309 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: For do you feel like, you know today, well, this 310 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: week is the second week in November, essentially, do you 311 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: feel like that warm tempts affect the rut much that 312 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: time of year or is it just gonna be what 313 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: it is? I still think it is what it is. 314 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: I think I think part of it is the the 315 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: mental grind on our end. It's just not fun sweating 316 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: in the tree stand. You know, it almost wears on 317 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: us more than anything. But there are I think little 318 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: factors with with a guard for the rut that are affected. Um. 319 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: But in general, it's They're still gonna do their thing. Um. 320 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: It just maybe maybe subdued a little bit. But you know, 321 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: I really sometimes think it's harder than us, and it 322 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: is the deer so um. Another thing that people like 323 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: to talk about this time of year outside of weather 324 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: is the moon and uh hunting. This morning, walking in, 325 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: we had a really bright moon hanging in the sky still, 326 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, up until we were in the tree. Uh, 327 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: and then you know it's not gonna rise this evening 328 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: until probably after sunset. How do you think that that 329 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: affects your movement? So I've never been a huge, um, 330 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to say believer, but you know, I 331 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: definitely know the moon effects movement, but I've never really 332 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: based hunts off of it. The only thing that I've 333 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: seen from personal experience is that when we are in 334 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: and around a full moon, UM, I see better like 335 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: in the two movement, like midday type of movement. For 336 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: whatever reason, Um, there's probably multiple factors, especially with that too, 337 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: but in general, I don't I don't change you know, 338 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: when I hunt or where I hunt or anything like 339 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: that based on the actual moon phase. That's just a 340 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: little observation that I've had over the years is that, 341 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, when the moon's shining bright all night long, 342 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: I try to stay in the stand a little bit 343 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: longer to get in earlier in the after me. Yeah, 344 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense to meet too. Man, 345 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of my plan as well. So you mentioned 346 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: it earlier. But we're gonna get that cold front that 347 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: everybody's looking forward to at the end of this week. 348 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: How are you going to spend that best day? What's 349 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: the tactic to go to? You know, it's just uh, 350 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: not much different than any other. But I want to 351 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: be in and around betting areas or travel corridors close 352 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: to betting areas. Uh. The other thing, when we start 353 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: to get towards the second week of November and you're 354 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: you're having more and more, does coming to astris which 355 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: means potentially a little bit less you know, searching required 356 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: for some of the bucks. Don't overlook some of the 357 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: small stuff, like small fingers small wood lots. And the 358 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: reason for that is a lot of times when these 359 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: big mature bucks are paired with the dough those are there, 360 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: is they're gonna be Um, they don't very rarely are 361 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: they gonna just be betted in the main what are 362 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: the main betting areas throughout the rest of the season. 363 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: They don't like being near all those other gears. So 364 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have access to a ton of 365 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: spots like that, um a few, but over and over 366 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and over again, I see some of the biggest, most 367 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: mature gears in the neighborhoods get killed in the small 368 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: with little pockets. Um. So this, especially during peak breeding, 369 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: this is a good time to not overlook those spots. 370 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Got you, So do you do you normally associate those 371 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: little spots with like being adjacent to you know, good 372 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: spots they have big cover and stuff like that, or 373 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: could it literally be out in the middle of miles 374 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: of just crop cut crop that could very well be 375 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. They just they just don't 376 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: want to be harassed by other bucks, and um, they 377 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: want to be by themselves. And you'll just I mean 378 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: even you'll sit here and I you'll see it just 379 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: driving around, you'll just drive by a little fence trove 380 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: when you'll see embedded up against the fence of the 381 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: spot that you'd never ever seen any other time of 382 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the year except right now. They're out in the spot 383 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: like that, just to get away from the other gear. Yeah, 384 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: that's exciting for the guy who doesn't have any good permission. 385 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: So um, with that in mind, you know, going forward 386 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: this week, on a scale of one to ten, what 387 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: would you rank your predicted buck movement? Who I think 388 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be up there? I'll go I'll go eight 389 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, good, dude, dead gumming? Are you 390 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: point five? Good grade? Sir? That's better in my college 391 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: g p A for Well, that's awesome. Awesome dude. Well, 392 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: thank you Jared for hopping on the phone, and we 393 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: will talk to you some other time. Man. Yeah, get 394 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: here from you guys. Good luck. I've got Sam Sohol 395 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: here on the phone. Sam. You've been up in North Dakota. 396 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it seems like, um things have been slow, 397 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? Things have been super slow. Um. 398 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: You know, typically one of the weeks I look forward 399 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: to the most is that last five six days of 400 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: October and uh between between weather and us you know, 401 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: who knows what. It seemed seemed very slow up, you know, 402 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: for a long time there. Yeah, yeah, So what are 403 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: you normally hunting in late October? You hunt scrapes and 404 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: stuff like that, or what are you looking at? Hunting 405 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: scrapes and reb lines? Also hunting transition zones between food 406 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: and and betting. Um, you know a lot of time 407 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm hunting small chunks of public and stuff, so I 408 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: don't have I can't you know, get on a big 409 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: food plot or or anything um that time of year. 410 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to find stuff where I think do 411 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: you at least moved through on the way to going 412 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: where they're going, but haven't caught up with one yet? Yeah. 413 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Can you talk real quick about what what you're looking 414 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: for in a rub line that makes you want to 415 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: hunt it? Yeah? So typically I'm trying to figure out 416 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: what side of the tree that rubs are on so 417 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: I can get a get an idea of what direction 418 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: that deer is moving through. Um, and if it seems 419 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: like you know, it's going to be a better morning 420 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: sit or an evening sit depending on the direction, I'm 421 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: going to focus on that rub line. Uh, you know, 422 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: based on what I find from that information. Yeah, obviously, yeah, 423 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: obviously looking for you know, just at the freshest sign possible. Yeah. 424 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: So in North Dakota, it's one of the states that's 425 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: really been impacted by drought, at least looking on the 426 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: uh the drought map. Um, how does that really affect 427 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: like that early November time period for a year you 428 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: thinking about water? Are you're thinking about you know, just 429 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: concentration a dyear around it or what do you do there? 430 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta think about water a little bit. Um, 431 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: it's been it has been dry, for sure, But like 432 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, I've bounced all over um eastern side of 433 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: North Dakota this year, and uh that being kind of 434 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: the prairie pothole region, you're typically not that far from 435 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: a water source of some kind. It's not until you're 436 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: getting out more you know, central and western North Dakota 437 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: where you're probably gonna want to focus a little bit 438 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: more on water with it being as dry as it's been. Um. 439 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: But but over all the places I've been hunting, the 440 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: water sources not typically an issue. Well, we have a 441 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: big cold front looming right now this week is not 442 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: going to be a drastic change kind of across the country, 443 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, where we have kind of some temps in 444 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: the earlier part of the week and then you know, 445 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: actually kind of you know, right there Thursday Friday, on 446 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: some really good dates, we start looking at some cold fronts. 447 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Do you lay off of your prime spots for those 448 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: like just perfect days that we're looking forward to? Do 449 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: you go in that go ahead and go hunt those 450 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: things hard? I? Yeah, I typically hold off until I 451 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, but I play the wind a lot, and uh, 452 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, I have a few spots where I know, 453 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: like I can't really hunt here until the date is 454 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: right and the wind is right. You know, there's there's 455 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: a set of dates in a in a in a whatever, 456 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: a very slim segment of wind that I can hunt. 457 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: So I'm typically I'm gonna hold off and I'll hunt 458 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: other stuff until I know it's gonna be good. Do 459 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: you regard the moon much this time of year? I 460 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: can't say that I pay much attention to the moon. 461 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: I figure it's it's the rut and I should be 462 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: in the woods. I like it. Man, what's the best date? 463 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: What's like when you're talking about the best date coming up. 464 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: What's it gonna be? You know the historically, you know, 465 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: you hear a lot of people say at a seven, UM, 466 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: I'm typically like just slightly later than that. I'm a 467 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: big fan of that, like tent through the twelfth time frame. 468 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's uh, that's just me cool. So 469 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: UM in the in that kind of kind of tent 470 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: through the twelfth date range. So you know, next week 471 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: or coming up in the next weekend or so, what 472 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: are you going to be focusing on tactically or or 473 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, with the habitat or what are you looking 474 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: at to try to kill a buck? Yep, I'm focusing 475 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: on stuff that I know has does UM. You know, 476 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: obviously there's gonna be a few bucks lockdown on stuff 477 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: that time of year. But a lot of times, if 478 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: you can get into a dough group or get into 479 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: a spot where you know does transition through a lot 480 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: of times you can find yourself in a rut ball 481 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: and you know, even if it starts out where you've 482 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: got young bucks that are doing a lot of the 483 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: chasing or you know, pushing them around, just all that activity. 484 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: Typically I have found typically draws bigger bucks in UM 485 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: and they start to push those smaller bucks off, especially 486 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: mid day if you can, if you can talk yourself 487 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: into staying out longer, you know, um, a lot of 488 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: times that time of year. Um, I might hunt way 489 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: longer in the day and then you know, with that 490 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: chance of killing something mid day early afternoon, um, and 491 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: then I might go scout that evening instead of instead 492 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: of just continuing to sit so I can find another 493 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: ball of doze that I can go hunt the next day. 494 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: That's a bold move, Cotton. Hope it pays out for you, 495 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: So pass. That's cool, man. I would like to you 496 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: to midday buck one of these days. I haven't done 497 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: it from a tree, you know, on the ground. It's 498 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: a little different game where you're moving around find them 499 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: and stuff. But um, so as we look forward to, uh, 500 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, some really good dates like you're talking about there. 501 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: If you had to give it a number between one 502 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: and tiena, what you predict the buck movement to be 503 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: lock in the upcoming week? What would you give it? 504 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: With the dates and the weather we're gonna have. I think, 505 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're gonna be you know, running 506 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: that red line pretty hard. Eight nine, um, going into 507 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: late into the week. Early in the next week, especially 508 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: with just the attempts are going to go from you 509 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: know what have been in the you know, fifties, sixties, 510 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: and seventies, um, all the way up until a couple 511 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: of days ago, dropping all the way down to lows 512 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: in the single digits. So it is a is a 513 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: very drastic change coming man, single digits. So it's not 514 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: my favorite. But I saw a couple of nights in 515 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: the forecast where the low is gonna be three's greeks. Yeah, 516 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: I've been there before, but it's not the it's not 517 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: the most fun hunting I've ever done. But oh no, 518 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: it's terrible. Ye Hey, but I appreciate you hopping on, Sam, 519 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for everything. And uh, I'm hoping that you get 520 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: get the shot at a buck on the tenth or 521 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: twelfth there somewhere in your favorite day range and with 522 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: any luck, it's coming. Cool dude, what are you talking 523 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: to me saying? Man? All right, thanks guys on the phone. 524 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: We have got the tundra master Tyler Freel what's happening, man, Oh, 525 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: not too much. Just got got back from my first 526 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: my first fall white tail white tail bow hunt. So 527 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: that that's that's always fun. Yeah, that's exciting man. You 528 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: Actually we're in Kentucky. We know as you as the 529 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: guy who knows everything that we want to know about Alaska. 530 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: But you've been down here in the lower forty eight 531 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: doing some whitetail hunt. And how is the action? It 532 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: was slow? It was hot and slow. Um, the deer 533 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: just you know there there's tons of sign and in 534 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: some sign that you know rud activity, but not they 535 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: just were not moving during the day too much. Yeah, 536 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: I got you so, uh for that first week in November. 537 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: What were you kind of concentrating on as far as 538 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: you know your tactic there? Well, we were. I was. 539 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: I hunted two different spots, um, kind of inside corner 540 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: of some act that that on a big edge of 541 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: a big wood lot, and another time right in the 542 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: middle of a big wood lot on a on that 543 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: where a couple of ridges come together. Just kind of 544 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: a good funnel type country that should get a lot 545 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: of traffic through and especially you know if they're starting 546 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: to chase or or cruise for dose. You know, stuff 547 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: that at least in my mind, um, should work really well. Um. Yeah, 548 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: so are you accustomed to hunting white tails? I guess 549 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: That's one of the things I should have asked you 550 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: about because you know, I know you you're from the 551 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: lower forty eight, which you've been Alaska for a long time, right, Yeah, 552 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm super green to hunt in white tails. You know, 553 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: I seen it on TV a bunch and it always 554 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: looked like fun. But this was, you know, my first 555 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: chance to really go bow hunt bow hunt white tails. 556 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I I tried to take you know, 557 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: take the advice to the guy guy I was hunting with, 558 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: and and uh, yeah, it was a great time. It 559 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: was slow, but it was a great time. What was 560 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: the key, like, what was the advice that he was 561 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: giving you that that he was hoping you would score on? Oh, 562 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: pretty much just paying attention and being ready to shoot. 563 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think that first week in November typically 564 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: is pretty hot action and and you know we're in 565 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: spots where we're just just ambushing them coming through and 566 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, just being being ready and keeping your head 567 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: on a swivel, sitting all day. What what's one of 568 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: the things that seemed to translate to you hunting in Kentucky. 569 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: They're um compared to what you're used to hunting. Well, 570 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: the tree you know, animal movement, you know, like the 571 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: the early morning, late evening seemed to be pretty good. 572 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I mean, it's just typical what animals 573 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: like to do. The thing that translated for me is 574 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: I do a lot of BlackBerry and grizzly bear hunting 575 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: out of tree stands. So it was nice. I like 576 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: sitting in a tree and wait and wait, and so 577 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very comfortable operating at a tree stands. 578 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: And so that was that translated really well, you know 579 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: from how this system all the gear you want to 580 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: be comfortable and and hunt effectively. You didn't have to 581 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: get in the stand at like one thirty am for 582 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: this one though, right, it's kind of a little bit later. No, normally, 583 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm used to sitting all night rather than 584 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: all days. So that was kind of nice. Do you, um, 585 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: if you could, if you had to go, if you 586 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: were hunting again this week, this coming week, what would 587 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: you change or what would you do differently to to 588 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: uh have success? What do you think? You know? I'm 589 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: not I mean, I'm not sure if I know enough 590 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: about it to really say that I would change stuff. 591 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: I would probably you know, the spots I were I 592 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: was hunting, were good spots. I think, I think it 593 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: was a good plan. Just the timing wasn't right, you know. 594 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: And I'm used to hunting animal you know, a lot 595 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: of my hunting, I might not see an animal for 596 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: days of hunting. Um. So you know, it was I 597 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect going into it. So I 598 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: don't know that I would really change anything about the method. 599 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: I would have, just I would just be persistent about it, um, 600 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: because I just think I just think it wasn't lining up. 601 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: My timing wasn't lined up with them moving in the daytime, 602 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: and I you know, for what I hear, it can 603 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: switch overnight too. You know. One of the best public 604 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: plan hunters I know, Uh, he hunts the same stand 605 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: almost all season long, and he kills big deer. And 606 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: he also says, when the wind change his direction, you 607 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: turn around look the other direction. So sometimes that works, uh, 608 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, looking forward as uh, you know, you have 609 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: kind of a tough week there. If you were to 610 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: predict what you think dear movement's gonna be like in 611 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: the next week there in Kentucky, what do you what 612 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: would you say on a scale from one to ten? 613 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I would I would say probably a seven. 614 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: You know, if after all that that hot weather, if 615 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: they're like any other critter, you know, they're progressively getting 616 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: closer to change. We didn't see a lot of chasing, 617 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: but they're getting close. And uh, you know, after a 618 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: string weather that doesn't want to have that that they 619 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: don't want to move in, tempers are supposed to drop. 620 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And I think you know, the guys are already see 621 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: even yesterday saw deer moving like crazy. So I think 622 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. I think they're I think it's 623 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a good week. Awesome, man, Well, Tyler, we 624 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: really appreciate the report. Man, I hope you have a 625 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: great winner up there. Yep, thank you. The report is good. 626 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: It is out. It is good. Guys. It is the 627 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: second week and no member, and you know, you could 628 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: argue that this is better than the first week. It 629 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: really really is gonna be good, especially appair with this weather. 630 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited about the reports we got from all these guys. Uh. 631 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: If you heard earlier in the podcast, we did put 632 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: down some nice Kansas bucks and those hunts will be 633 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: on the Buck Truck series on meat or coming up 634 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: next summer. So be excited for that. I hope you're 635 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to it, because we sure are. There are 636 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: a couple of things that y'all can check out if 637 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: you need to just satiate some of that deer hunting stuff. 638 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you can't get in the woods until you know 639 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: Friday or something. You need to read something or watch 640 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: something on the Element YouTube channel. There's a really cool 641 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: pre rut style hunt in Texas, but there is some 642 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: ruddy action dear an answering antlers. They're getting after it um. Also, 643 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: there is a article on Meat Eater by Tony Peterson 644 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: about when to abandon your rut hunting plan, and then 645 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast. Mark also has a just 646 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: all out rut podcast. I mean, you can't call it 647 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: anything else, just rutty stuff. It's what we're all about 648 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: right now. And you need to be considering all these 649 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: rout tactics. Uh. This week, it's time to get in 650 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: those pinches. It's time to get after where those dough 651 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: betting areas are. It's time to kill a big giant buck. 652 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: This has been rough, fresh, keep it fresh.