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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation,

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Speaker 2: Highlight Real starting now.

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Speaker 3: Now. Gronk tells a story about how he fell asleep

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Speaker 3: in his first visit with the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I was so sick of that visit, dude. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: just a vision. It just wasn't the visit to the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: So what I went on like a little tour like

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Speaker 4: you go in. I visited twelve different teams. It's kind

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Speaker 4: of like you're going on these recruiting visits to each

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Speaker 4: team because they want to get to know you. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: the New England Patriots were the last ones on the list,

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Speaker 4: and bro, I was sick. I was flying from Denver

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Speaker 4: to Jacksonville to freaking Baltimore, meeting with every team, and

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Speaker 4: I was so sick of it. And you know, you're

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Speaker 4: putting like kind of a front on it as well,

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Speaker 4: and I was literally so sick of I go. I

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Speaker 4: want to be outrageous here. I need to have some

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Speaker 4: fun with it. I remember I was kind of hung

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Speaker 4: over to feeling with crap all these flights. I went

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Speaker 4: out and partied a couple of the nights too, so

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Speaker 4: I wasn't even feeling like myself. So I was like,

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Speaker 4: how do you get back to normal? You just you

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Speaker 4: just become out. I show up ro I was so tired.

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Speaker 4: First thing I do is fall asleep in Nancy's office. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick heard all about it.

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Speaker 5: He comet believe it.

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Speaker 4: And then I go into the interview session and Billy

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Speaker 4: O'Brien draws a play up and then he races on

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Speaker 4: the board. He's like, all right, can you name what

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Speaker 4: the wide receivers did, like rename their route and what

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Speaker 4: the responsibility was. I was like, bro, I have no clue.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't even think. And then he's like, he's like,

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Speaker 4: what do you do? I was like, you're just throwing

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Speaker 4: me the fucking ball, Billy. I'll make some guys miss,

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Speaker 4: I'll run over some people.

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Speaker 6: He's like, he's like, but.

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Speaker 5: You don't know the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Like I don't need to know the play You throw

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Speaker 4: me the ball. Like That's basically how our interview went.

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Speaker 4: And then I literally walked out of there called Drew Rosenhouse.

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Speaker 4: I said, this team is either gonna take me or

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Speaker 4: they're fucking laughing at me. And I give no fucks

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Speaker 4: because I'm over this whole process.

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Speaker 5: So what happens.

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Speaker 4: New Patriots trade up for me for the forty second

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Speaker 4: pick in the NFL Draft in twenty ten and select me.

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Speaker 4: And I looked around the table. I said, I told

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Speaker 4: you they were gonna take me.

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Speaker 2: So going back to where we started, that is Gronk

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Speaker 2: right there, that whole thing, and they built up like

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Speaker 2: I remember them talking about you, the coaches saying like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna love this kid. He's fucking just awesome. He

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Speaker 2: had like you explained the whole thing that you just

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Speaker 2: explained and like that was like, oh my god, what

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Speaker 2: like that doesn't happen in New England, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? And Gronk kinda from your little story right there,

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Speaker 2: you can kind of portray that you're not a smart

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Speaker 2: football player, like but you were like brilliant, Like they

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Speaker 2: would explain that, like, don't think that Grenk didn't know

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Speaker 2: his fucking plays. This guy you coached him once on

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Speaker 2: one thing. He never had to say it again. Like

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Speaker 2: he was like one of the most football intelligent guys.

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Speaker 1: I knew.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 4: I mean at that time when I was doing the interview,

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Speaker 4: I was beat down.

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Speaker 5: I was sick of it.

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't really recall, you know, the play after

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Speaker 4: he showed it to me. And then also I did

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Speaker 4: struggle a little bit though my rookie year with the playbook,

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Speaker 4: I actually would have probably started every single game from

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Speaker 4: the beginning my first eight games. I only was playing

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Speaker 4: about fifteen to twenty plays a game, if you can

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Speaker 4: recall that. And then finally boom, the playbook hit. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it was a tough playbook. I mean in college, I

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Speaker 4: literally think I had like fifteen plays and I lined

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Speaker 4: get to New England, and man, let me tell you

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Speaker 4: that playbook was outrageous.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the playbook, it's the personnel groups you're playing,

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Speaker 2: why you're playing f exactly, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's wheels, you guys gotta flop like it was. It

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Speaker 2: was definitely tough.

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Speaker 5: It was definitely a change.

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Speaker 1: The fucking formations. There's so many goddamn formations.

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Speaker 5: Drove me crazy.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, in college, I had one formation. I

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Speaker 4: lined up in the same spot every single play.

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Speaker 6: I'm not lying.

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Speaker 4: Every single play. I get to New England, what sixty

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Speaker 4: five different formations? Yeah, actually, probably one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: different formations, but then we narrowed it down to about

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Speaker 4: sixty five. My head was spinning all over the place,

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Speaker 4: and finally it just clicked, you know, once I got

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Speaker 5: About week ten.

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Speaker 4: It's remember I scored that touchdown first to Chicago Bears

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Speaker 4: versus Brian Urlacker. Oh yeah, was that panther route where

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Speaker 4: I had to just get big right at the goal

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Speaker 4: line and then Tom was gonna throw it low and

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Speaker 4: then uh, we hit it in practice at Friday. Then

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Speaker 4: we hit it in the game that Sunday, and since

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Speaker 4: then I was starting every single play.

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Speaker 3: Next, Antonio Gates talks about how he transitioned from being

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Speaker 3: a college basketball player to a tight end.

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Speaker 2: That first training camp, that first whenever you got there

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Speaker 2: the mini camp. Talk me through that, because I couldn't

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Speaker 2: even get into a fucking receiver stance. Bro I watched

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Speaker 2: my rookie mini camps. I watched my rookie mini camp

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Speaker 2: recently or like a year ago, and I'm sitting here

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Speaker 2: looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame trying to take

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Speaker 2: off on a fucking release, walking through how you transition

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Speaker 2: because you didn't even play the gods sport.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, right, what dude, Like, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: It's the same for everybody. Man, it's the it's the

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Speaker 7: you know, it's the progression. It's the stages, right, you know,

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Speaker 7: that's stage one for me and you that ain't. That

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Speaker 7: don't change, you know. For me, it was even you know,

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Speaker 7: probably more comp located, you know, the range of which

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Speaker 7: I had to come from because I didn't play college football.

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Speaker 7: But I think it served me somewhat on an advantage

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Speaker 7: consider credit.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have any bad habits.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, you're a fresh canvas, right, So I was

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Speaker 7: learning from a clean slate. But I'm like, gosh, right,

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Speaker 7: but unlike you know, unlike people that's like you know

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Speaker 7: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: They come in and they already learned how to run.

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Speaker 7: You know, you learn so now you're trying to change

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Speaker 7: what you learned at Kent State, you know, to say, God,

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Speaker 7: come from miskan or Ohio. They changing what they've already

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Speaker 7: credit than bad credit. Right, So it was like I

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Speaker 7: Now it wasn't easy. I just felt like it was easier.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't get in the stands, you know what I'm saying, right,

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Speaker 7: I couldn't understand motions. You got to remember, I'm here, right, yeah, right,

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Speaker 7: I'm not Yeah, I'm trying to see what covers of that.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 7: So I got to a point I was so bad.

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Speaker 7: They just told me to just stand up, just do

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it got to that level. But the idea

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Speaker 7: was I just remember learning watching who I thought. Like

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Speaker 7: We had a guy called Eric named Eric Parker who

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Speaker 7: And obviously, you know we had Keenom Carter came along,

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Speaker 6: Dropped his weight.

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Speaker 7: I mean coming at you full speed, drop his way,

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Speaker 7: and I mean two or three steps he coming out.

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Speaker 7: He ain't overstepping to come out of ship like everything.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, this is why he's starting simple, this is

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Speaker 7: this is crazy to me.

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Speaker 6: This is perfect to me.

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Speaker 7: You know, even though I'm playing tight end, I'm still

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Speaker 7: with the vision of what I think a perfect rout

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Speaker 7: I didn't see I wouldn't like watching. And obviously I

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Speaker 7: grew with tight ends in my room, the guys who

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Speaker 7: the Chargers. That's the beauty of it. I was learning

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Speaker 7: just like, Okay, he's taking notes, he's doing this, he's

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Speaker 7: making sure this is his footwork. Okay in the run game, huh, Okay,

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Speaker 7: through around. This is day too strong. These are five techniques,

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Back then, it was a

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Speaker 7: It was a guy his hands out there. He was

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Speaker 7: back then, you know what I'm saying. So it changed

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Speaker 7: everybody was playing four three when I got there, and

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Speaker 7: I had an end. Pretty much every time it's handing

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Speaker 7: Who are the early and huge I mean back in

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Speaker 7: the day, I remember you know, I'm going over in

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Speaker 7: my head in your vision. Yeah, we had some, but

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Speaker 7: like the handle, they were like the big run stoppers.

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Speaker 7: So they wasn't the major playmakers. You know, now guys

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Speaker 7: and then the vans came and all over the rocks

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Speaker 7: but now we're praying blocking. Now, you know, we trade

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Speaker 7: blocking to the backside, were leaving the inn, were leaving

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Speaker 7: the sand banking for the full back.

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Speaker 6: Before that, it was just those three guys.

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Speaker 7: Was in the box and it was those four down linemen,

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Speaker 7: And I mean I had him. He was at a seven,

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Speaker 7: he was in y nine, and it was mine and

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Speaker 7: it was just dude. I used to be like, YOA,

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Speaker 7: why do you keep helping this guard? You know what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, You had to he would have to go down.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you understand the run gain. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: so you know I would always hidehim on my own

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Speaker 7: as mean as him. But that's why I wouldn't know

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Speaker 7: two thirty five tight ends. Back in those days, you

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Speaker 8: I mean, I was honestly cool. How else I answered

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Speaker 10: Tip your cap to a guy that, yeah, has his

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite Tom memory?

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Speaker 4: My favorite Tom memory? Man, I'll always remember the time

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Speaker 5: You brought it up during your speech. He just came

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Speaker 4: I was getting my ankle tape by Jimbo, the Great

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Speaker 4: Jim Wallen, Great Jim Wallen, Whalen Wallen. It's been a while,

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Speaker 4: Jim Man. I just called you Jimbo for so long.

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Speaker 2: What was your favorite moment too, when we're at it,

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Speaker 2: You know, that was kind of like those those moments

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Speaker 4: So hey, if you don't step up to the challenge,

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Speaker 1: In one sentence, why this game?

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Speaker 7: I guess it was a home game because we played it,

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Speaker 6: Break what the record? Well, record, the NFL touchdown record, NFL.

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Speaker 2: The touchdown record for tight end Peaches and Cream one

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Speaker 7: Yeah but yeah, I uh, I man like crazy because

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Speaker 7: I was able to look back and say, man, that

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Speaker 1: Is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 6: I think you're right. You're right.

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Speaker 7: I think the from an emotion standpoint, it was because

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Speaker 7: So when I made this transition, Uh, that game, I

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Speaker 6: I think that was the number.

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Speaker 2: Well, fucking congratulations in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 6: Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new

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