1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: This is the Route Tree, broadcasting live on Dallascowboys dot 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: Com and the Dallas Cowboys app. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: Now your host, Drew. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 4: Pearson, Welcome to another edition of the Route Tree with 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 4: your host Drew Pearson, the former wide receiver, the original 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 4: eighty eight and NFL Hall of Famer from the Dallas Cowboys. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 4: And come take a ride with me as we dive 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: deep into the heart of greatness from the past, from 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: the present, and the future. And today I'm so excited 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 4: because we have a special guest, my man, all right, 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: none other than the legendary Dallas Cowboy linebacker, that hitting machine. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 4: You know you get NFL. There's so many cool nicknames. 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: You know, we had too Tall on here, you know, 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: cool nickname, but the hitting Machine. When you say that name, 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: there's only one person that comes to mind. And so 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 4: buckle up, get ready for the Route Tree, because we 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: got a special guest today, none other than the great 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: Jean Lockhart number fifty six to hit your geen gino. Hello, man, 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 4: looking good man, don't hit me man, good to see you, man, 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: It's good good good. 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: I can't complain at all. 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: You know, I'm here, I'm alive, and I'm glad to 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: be in the presence of greatness, glad to be here. 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: It's just beautiful facilities. My first time really coming over here, 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: is that right? Yeah, you know, to see this and 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: to be a part of this is just absolutely awesome. 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: Have chilled just being in here, walking in here, and 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: to see what the Joneses has built around here in Dallas, 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: Texas and here and prosper it's just awesome. 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cool. But the thing is, you need 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: to come around here a little more often. People need 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: to see you around here. Some of these players need 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: to see you around here, you know, because I know 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: if you talk to. 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: Them, Yes, sir, they're gonna listen. Yes, you know what 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying. One thing I can do is hit. You 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: could hit, and you could preach brother, you could preach 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: to him. So anyway, we appreciate you taking the time. 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: You know you're you're a Texas guy, sir, and so 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: I ended up playing for the Dallas Cowboys. 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: Must have been pretty cool. You went to Houston and 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: all that, but you're from Crockett, Texas, sir. Now tell 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: me about Crockett. First of all, where is Crockett Texas? 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: Rockett is DP, East Texas, East Texas. Uh, you know 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: you're here. You'll hear about Texas. 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: You hear about Lufkin Texas, Tyler Texas with great Earl Campbell. 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: A lot of great guys come out of East Texas 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: and about Hallsville. Robert Robert Newhouse of course, yeah, homeboy, 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: all them homeboys, you know all of us up there. Yeah, 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 3: Robert Durham come in here from Kilgore, and matter of fact, 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: he played, he tried out for the Cowboys for a 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: minute there. 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: But a lot of great athletes. 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: Come out of Crockett, you know, not only football, but 58 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: basketball as well. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: You know you you mentioned. 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: The Rocket from Crockett, Carl Riley, A lot of great guys. 61 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: But one thing, Crocket Texas is extremely small. 62 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: But when you say small, you're talking about what one thousand, 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: two fifteen hundred. 64 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: People, Not that man, not okay, we're talking about thirty 65 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: five hundred four all right. 66 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: All right? 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: But so you played holld enough three A five A, 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: it's three eighty three eight. But it's it's small enough 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: where everybody know, everybody's day. 70 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: Everybody's everybody's home town. 71 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: Hometown, and we took care of each other. And you know, 72 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: this one could whip you, and this one could whip you. 73 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: And and that's where you cut. That's where you get 74 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: all the obedience from right. But also in crocket, Texas, 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: where you learn the hard work, how to press a vere, 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: how to go out there and top the cotton, and 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: how to haul hey and do the hogs and the cows. 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: And because you know, we was hungry back then. And 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: you know, it's like some teams ought to be hungry, 80 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: you know, it's a hungry record for some victories and 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: things like that. We were hungry just for a meal. 82 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: So we have to get out there and get it. 83 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: So it's a big family. 84 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all family is a it's a family of 85 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: It was five of us, two girls. I'm two girls older, 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm in the middle of two boys younger. Yeah, but again, 87 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: all the houses is so closed. Everybody, you know, the 88 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: whole neighborhood is like family. So so if you got 89 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: in trouble, the neighbors can say just like they didn't 90 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: have to say anything. They gonna whip your first, and 91 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: didn't tell your mom and daddy and then get another Yeah, 92 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: then you'll. 93 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: Get another whippings. 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: So you know, uh, well we used to being beat 95 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: right on. So you had a nice career at Crockett, 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: good enough to get that scholarship to Houston, but you 97 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: had other offers coming out of Crockett. 98 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: I had a tremendous amount of ass you know, I 99 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: thought I was gonna go to USC. 100 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: That's why I really wanted to go. 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: And this is all that linebacker, right and then. 102 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: Forever whatever and always always yeah, So USC, Texas A 103 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: and M Texas, all the all the schools. But there 104 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: was something about when I made the decision, it was 105 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: it had to be a good feeling for me. So 106 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: when I visited the campus, I felt like I. 107 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: Fitted fitted in with her. 108 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 3: And then you also you had the great Elma Red 109 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: who was doing all the recruiting in these Texas and 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: and bringing all the guys from these Texas there. And 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: you know, at that time, University of Houston was a 112 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: winning organization. Now they're winning back and the day, so 113 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: you know, and again the thing that they stressed it 114 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: mostly about me to my parents was the the activity, 115 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: the activities and most important. 116 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: Getting the education academics. 117 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: Get the academics right, So I was able to graduate 118 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: with a degree in marketing. And so not only did 119 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: I get the scholarship, I got money. 120 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 4: But your coach Bill Yeoman, Bill Yeoman, billye what was 121 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: he like? 122 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: Man? 123 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: You know, he's a pretty damn good coach, reputation. 124 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: Wise, zicon. You know he built he built the Yah, 125 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: the Houston Vier. 126 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: You called the Houston Vier that here, and if you 127 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: think about it, how legendary he was. Uh, look at 128 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: what coach Tom Lander did. He did the flex defense right, 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: So telling about innovators, I played for innovators throughout my 130 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: entire career and to be a part of that. So 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: you you was playing for people that actually you actually 132 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: knew that they knew what they would hell they were doing. 133 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 4: So you had a good experience at the University of 134 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: Houston there. You know, I'm checking here. Let me see 135 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 4: you made uh, well, you make All American three times, 136 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: All Southwest Southwest Conference and all that, sir, man the 137 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: Crockett Rocket on the football side. Okay, now it's time. 138 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: You know, you had a nice career. NFL draft, whether 139 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: they tell you you're gonna be drafted or not, you're expecting 140 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: to be drafted. 141 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Well, you know, they told me I would probably get 142 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: drafted somewhere around the third or fourth round. Yeah, and 143 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: so you know, here I am in Houston. I went 144 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: to the Houston Ailler's draft room where they had to 145 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: big set up up in there. And then I have 146 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: my whole all my parents and my sisters and my 147 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: brothers there. I'm getting ready get. 148 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 2: Drafted, and get drafted somewhere. 149 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: Didn't know exactly where, right, right, So, but then the 150 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: third round go by and not drafted. You know, I 151 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: feel like one of them subdued. Sandra's kind of deal. 152 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: Fourth round go by, not drafted. Then you know, you 153 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: start getting anxious, and you start walking around and you 154 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: start wondering what the world is going on. And I'm 155 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: picking up the phone call my agents, say, man, I 156 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: thought you told me that I was going to be 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: in the third and fourth round, right, you say, ain't 158 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: nobody said nothing yet, So he here up, got off 159 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: the phone because it wasn't no good conversation. 160 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: Well, then the fifth round passed. 161 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: So after the fifth round passed, I got up and 162 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: I said, man, let's go. 163 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm done. Then by the time I get 164 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: it out to the car. 165 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: I get the tough phone call from from Gil Brandon, 166 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: coach on Lendry, you want to. 167 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: Be a cowboy? 168 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: I said, yes, sir, I want to be whoever called 169 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: me at this point in time, I want to be. 170 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: I had seven rounds of the draft right at that time, 171 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: right exactly right. 172 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: So you know it wasn't that deep. 173 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: But and then think of it, I was a fourth 174 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: linebacker that was taken. You know, Billy Cannon was drafted 175 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: before me, Steve Diassi ed Martin, and then you had 176 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: Bob Blunik already here, Jeff. 177 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: Rower already here. So we're deep at linebackers. 178 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: So the first thing I say is, coach, how in 179 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: the world can I make this football team with all 180 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: these people? 181 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: But hold on, hold on, Let's create a little suspense here. Okay, 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: let's let's do it. How the coach responded, do that, 183 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: all right, we'll do that. When the route, let's do it. 184 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: They're great, you lock us right after this, we'll be 185 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: right back. 186 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 6: Every day begins with a promise, a promise to work 187 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 6: hard and to build the future. That's why we're here 188 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 6: providing the tools, expertise and John Deere equipment, you have 189 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 6: relied on for generations to help you get the job 190 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 6: done right. 191 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: We're with you. 192 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 6: That's our promise to you, because no matter of the 193 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 6: project or the challenge you're facing, where were you? 194 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: Where are United Cowboys fans? 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Restrictions and exclusion apply. Set dot 227 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 11: com slash guarantee for full details. 228 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: To the Route Tree. 229 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Route Tree. I'm Drew 230 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: Pierris from the original Ada. We're here at the Cowboys headquarters. 231 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: We appreciate them house the Route Tree podcasts, and we 232 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: bring in try to bring in a special guest from 233 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: the past to present and try to find out what 234 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: you're doing and what they did to get to the 235 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 4: point that becoming a Dallas Cowboy and having the success 236 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: that they did have as a Dallas Cowboy. And that 237 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: one guy we got here today. Look at him there 238 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 4: hitting machine like you want to hit somebody right now. 239 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: So we were talking about when you got to the 240 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: Cowboys and what was that life when you got to 241 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: the cab First of all, were you a Cowboys fan? Growing? 242 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 243 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: Man, you know you have to be, you know, from 244 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: East Texas, all around Texas. 245 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: And no Houston, No, no Houston. 246 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: You know, even though I went to school at the 247 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: University of Houston, still wasn't all the fans. My daddy 248 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: was just a die hard Cowboy fan. I'm talking about 249 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: aide slip. Everything was Dallas Cowboys and for me to 250 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 3: get drafted by the Cowboys was extraordinary for him. And 251 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: he he was to the point whereas if if life 252 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 3: put the end at then it was all right now 253 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: my boy. 254 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: My boys playing for my team. 255 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, It's just awesome because now 256 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: my dad had a chance to not only see me 257 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: play in high school, then. 258 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: Go two hours up the street. I played at the University. 259 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: Of Houston and then I come two hours this way, 260 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm playing for the Dallas Cowboy. So he had an 261 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: opportunity to see me play man talk career, and which 262 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: was all spot for me. So uh, you know, so 263 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: it was definitely an honor. Plus he loved Tom Landry 264 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: and uh he got a chance to meet Coach Landry. 265 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: Uh because soon as I got drafted the next day, 266 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: I had to come up here and do a contract. 267 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: So because the. 268 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: Sixth round you really didn't need no agent. You don't 269 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: have no leverage, not much at all, if anything. So 270 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: you just come and get your check right more or less. 271 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: So uh, we walk in there, man, and but I'm 272 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: excited because it's huge for me. So uh, Coach Landry, 273 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: they walk out practically and just here, here's your check. 274 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: But when he's when my dad saw Coach Landry and 275 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: Gill Brand, he just hugged him. 276 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm talking about he loved the Cowboy so much, your dad. 277 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: He hugged me, shaking their hand well the whole too, 278 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: like right, that's cool, that is so cool. And then 279 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: Brands already has my signing bonus, so Gil reached me 280 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: to signing bones and I'm shaking like this and that, 281 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: and then my dad just grabbed me hand said, don't 282 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: worry about it. 283 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: I got it for you. I got it. 284 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: I got it, Yeah, I got it. So just signed 285 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 4: it back. 286 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: I got yeah. So it was it was actually order there. 287 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: My dad never missed a football game and everybody start 288 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: to know him at the stadium and coming in. So 289 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: it's been a it's been a great honor for me 290 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: and be a part of Dallas Cowboard and America's team 291 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: with all the history and water, all the greatness that 292 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: you know, you can't ask for anything better than to 293 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 3: live in it. 294 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: It's like almost like a dream come true. Yeah, And 295 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: to kind of ease the uh disappointment maybe having to 296 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: wait to the sixth round. You know, we had to 297 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: correct ourselves in twelve rounds that year, but they had 298 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: to be kind of disappointment. 299 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: But this kind of makes up for it, and no 300 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: doubt about it. But you could have ended up in 301 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: Tennessee or Green Bay or somewhere like somewhere real cold, right, 302 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm from the South, so me and 303 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: Cole really don't do it together. 304 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: But anyway, it was well worth the wait. 305 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: But it's not that it didn't worry that the thing 306 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: that tom Lander told me was it don't matter where 307 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: you get drafted, that it's what you do when you 308 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: get here. Now, when I took that, I said, coach, 309 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: what is it gonna take for me to make this team? 310 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: And necessary more or less, he was just saying, hit 311 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: every damn thing that moves. So I took that on 312 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: from from from the time I got here working out 313 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: during the summertime to training camp, and I knew if 314 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: I was gonna make this team, I was gonna hit 315 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: everything that moved. So that's when I got the name 316 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: the hitting Machine because I. 317 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: Hit every damn thing that moved you. 318 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: And do I tell you what, you didn't have that 319 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: mad that once you got in the Cowboys. 320 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I didn't have I didn't have had. 321 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: The rep up hitting everything that moved. 322 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: Right, But but now you're right, you have to take 323 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: it to another level. It's because now you're talking about 324 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: whether you're gonna make make the team or not, or 325 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: you're just gonna be a draft choice, or you're just 326 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: gonna be lost in the draft or whatever. 327 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: Take the money and from Yeah. 328 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: So you know, I had to show up. I had 329 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: to show up, and and. 330 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: The competition there when you got there. Who was who 331 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: the veterans you mentioned? Who was there again? 332 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about Bob Brunnell. 333 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: Already missed the flex defense, miss know it all, and 334 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: you know, think about it. Then you have Jeff Roher, 335 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: he's there Yale University. Uh, then you get you get 336 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: Billy Canon drafted, Uh, Steve Deosi drafted before me Ed Moore. 337 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: And and so I'm so I'm walking in here seven deep seven, 338 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: I'm back of deep. So I had to do something 339 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: I had to learn I had. Yeah, right, I'm talking 340 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: about man. 341 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: Now it's the hitting machine. You're hitting everything and going 342 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: through training camp. When you found out that you made 343 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: it through that process and you found out you made 344 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: the Dallas count What was that like? 345 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: Like your dad, your dad all together when you. 346 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: Out Man, my dad was the only one that was 347 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: here in Dallas on that particular day. And you know 348 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: how it is the day before the last cut, so 349 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: everybody's trying to call you. I made sure that nobody 350 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: called me because if you get that call usually to 351 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: tell you you need to bring your playbook and come 352 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: see coach Landry. So I made sure I didn't. I 353 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: made sure my know, my aunts, my uncle's my sister. 354 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: Quit calling me. 355 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: Every time you call, I'm freaking out. I'm dumping. 356 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: So I'm this right, So U to get that to 357 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: when filing you get in that first meeting and you 358 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: look at yourself say, dang, man, I made it. 359 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: I made it. Man. 360 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the room with two tall Jones and 361 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: random White and these legends, and I'm looking at Erniet 362 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: thalting and Jeans talking and I. 363 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: Said, wow, look at this, damn man. 364 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about that when 365 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: you've got in that rule room. Jerry Tubbs, Right, you're 366 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: the lot back and coach and all that, but the 367 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 4: flex defense a little different what you're used to, and 368 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 4: let's talk about that and how you had to make 369 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: that adjustment to that to become still the hitting machine. 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You know, we do a 424 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: little offense defense. 425 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: But today this is all defense, all right. 426 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 6: You know. 427 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: And I'm just so glad we're on opposite sides at 428 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: the table because I might get jacked up on that 429 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: wall with all these plays up here. But anyway, Jeane, 430 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 4: we appreciate your passion. That is the kind of passion 431 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: brought to the Dallas Cowboys. And when you brought that 432 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: at that time, the cowboys needed that right right exactly. 433 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: It was a time when Cowboys wasn't they were they 434 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 3: weren't winning as much as they was accustomed to. They 435 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: was eid and aid or ten and six or something 436 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: like that. 437 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: But it was a time when. 438 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: When I got here on the defense, it just didn't 439 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: seem like it was just that much excitement, you know. 440 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: And trying to learn the flex defense was had to 441 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: take a major major step for me because I'm used 442 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: to line up and linebacker just attacking wherever wherever the 443 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: ball is going to be, reading reading the center or 444 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: reading the guard and bam and going. But now I'm 445 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: having to sit back here in the flex. This flex 446 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: and it depends on what this person does. That person does, 447 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: It determines where you go. And now not only that 448 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: I'm I'm the captain of the defense, so I'm the quarterback, 449 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: whereas I'm calling all the plays as well now, so 450 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: so that takes away some of the aggressiveness that you 451 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: have because of the thinking that you have to do. 452 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: So in order for me to be the hitting machine 453 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: and be able to still do what I wanted to do, 454 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: I had to go home and I had to study 455 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: extremely hard. I had to become a student of the game. 456 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: I had to learn this defense to the point where 457 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: it was secondary for me. And then I could just 458 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: look at in the formation down in distance, and then 459 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: I can still apply pressure when it came to somebody 460 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: when they when they step up in the hole, I 461 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: can meet them like a cement mixer. 462 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: And see, that was the fun part of. 463 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: The flex for me, because yes, I got the I 464 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: got Randy White here, got too tall on this side. 465 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: They're gonna take care of They're gonna hold up these 466 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: guys for me. 467 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Bam. 468 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: I can just tangle and get to the hole. What 469 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: and meet the meet the running back right there. But 470 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: the defense was so great that it allowed the linebacker 471 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: to be the guy who made the most tackles. 472 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 4: Along with the setup for the defense. 473 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: Right, it's the set up. It's set up for the 474 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: middle linebacker make right and then for the week safety 475 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: because we safety read run reach was the same as mine. 476 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: So that was Michael Downs at the time. And you 477 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: know he had a lot of tackles as well. 478 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: That's why that middle linebacker Jerry Tubbs, Leroy, Jordan, Bob 479 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: Brunneck and me. 480 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: Right, it's not that that's it. It's not. 481 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: There's not that many and be the first rookie to 482 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: help starting that. So that started middle linebacker. Man, it 483 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: is just an honor. And to think about the great 484 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: guys that's before me, that that the linemen that played 485 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: in front of me. To think about all of that 486 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: greatness and all the Hall of Fame and or ring 487 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: up on and all these and then I'm sitting back 488 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: there behind those guys. Man, is just an honor. 489 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: But you recognize the fact that you got to learn 490 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: this defense to be effective. You can have all these 491 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: guys in front of you, but y'all got to take 492 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: care of my business so that I can take advantage 493 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 4: of this that's here in front of me. It didn't 494 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: matter say those names against too tall, Randy White, Harvey Martin. Yeah, 495 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: oh my god, John Dunny, my goodness, all these guys. 496 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: Man, you got then you got Dickerson on the on 497 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: the defensive end, Anthony dis Yeah, you got Dickison, you 498 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: got Michael Downs, got Everson Walls, you got Bill Bass, 499 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: you got run Fellows. 500 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: We're talking about you. Tell my guys. 501 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: When we showed and then when we showed up the 502 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: play and we we went on business trips. See, we 503 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: weren't dressing and you know, jeans and up we had 504 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: on suits. We were going to a business meeting when 505 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: we were gonna take care of our business on the field, 506 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: put off suits back on, get on the plane and 507 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: come on back home. 508 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: We was taking care of it. 509 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: And we had no money to have to right, shirts, safe, hurt. 510 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: Right. 511 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: We were all weekend, the same shirt, the same We 512 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: may have changed times, but that's all. But what we 513 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: didn't change was the in an attitude of the Dallas 514 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: Cowboys and what it meant to be a Dallas Cowboy 515 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: and how how how how we honored that and how 516 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: how Coach Landry and the players in this organization, how 517 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: we we we honored that name and the Cowboys tradition 518 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: of winning. 519 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: That's man, and that respect you have you when we go. 520 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: Somewhere, man with everybody knew that the Cowboys into town 521 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: and and and it's the same way around here in Dallas, Cal. 522 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: Dallas Cal. You're Dallas Cowboy. You're well known. 523 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: So you have to carry yourself in a respectful manner 524 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: and hold the tradition extremely high. 525 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 4: That what it really is, Well, you've had that, man, 526 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 4: and you know you were a leader from day one 527 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 4: when you join the Cowboys and playing that position, you 528 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: needed to be that what other Before we get into that, 529 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: let's take a quick break. It will come right back. 530 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: Talk about some of the other leaders on that defense 531 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: that made it so effective because nobody was giving up 532 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 4: one hundred yards. 533 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, we didn't do that. 534 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: No, No, nobody getting a hundred yards against the flex take 535 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: check the schedule out anything you want to get You 536 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't you going to get a hundred yards on us? 537 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: Right? 538 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: Not? Not running the ball? No, no, we didn't do that. 539 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: What I'm saying running the ball? 540 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: No, we weren't doing that. 541 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: And because big reason is to go you were making 542 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: tackles one hundred and no, one hundred, one thousand and 543 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: one tackles in his career one hundred and thirty some games. 544 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm through pierces. Just so you know, 545 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 3: just just tell you know, I'll tell you what. 546 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Man. 547 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: It many hits. 548 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: You might think I'm somebody else. I don't care if 549 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: you did. 550 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: Man, God bless you to. 551 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with the route tree right after this. 552 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 6: Every day begins with a promise, a promise to work 553 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 6: hard and to build the future. That's why we're here 554 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 6: providing the tools, expertise, and John Deere equipment you have 555 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 6: relied on for generations to help you get the job 556 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 6: done right. 557 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: We're with you. 558 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 6: That's our promise to you, because no matter of the 559 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 6: project or the challenge you're facing. 560 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: We're with you. 561 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: Where are you, noted, cowboys, Vans, We've got big news. 562 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: Black Rifle Energy is now available at Texas seven eleven stores, 563 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: and for a limited time, you can score two cans 564 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: for just six dollars at participating location. 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They have some talent. 576 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 7: You have some great talent, and they got some fight 577 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 7: hoping this is the year me too. 578 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh I'm Cody. By the way, I'm Travis. Nice to 579 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: meet you. Travis. Go Cowboys Go. 580 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 8: Cowboys make a new friend based solely on their shirt choice. 581 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 9: What would you like the power to do? 582 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 8: Bank of America the official bank of the Dallas Cowboys, 583 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 8: Copyright twenty twenty five. 584 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 10: Bank of America Corporation, at AT and T. 585 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 11: We guarantee our network so you can talk college football 586 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 11: with your bff while taking Buster to the vet. 587 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 12: Hey, yeah, I can't believiate the whole thing of chicken. 588 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 13: Wings, and I can't believe we're staging a comeback. 589 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 11: Staying connected matters. That's why in the rare event of 590 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 11: a network outage, you'll automatically get a bill credit for 591 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 11: a full day service for wireless downtown lasting sixty minutes 592 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 11: and more. Caused by single incident impacting ten more towers 593 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 11: must be connected to impact tower. 594 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 10: Don't set about it. Restrictions and exclusions apply. 595 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 11: Set dot comslas guarantee for full details. 596 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 2: To the route tree. 597 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the round three. I'm just hanging with 598 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: my man, Gina Lockhart. We're just having a good time, man, 599 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: one of my special You know, you know, you meet 600 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: guys that come after you, you say, well, this guy 601 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: could have played with all right, you're one that could 602 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: have played with I ain't saying that about everybody, because 603 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: everybody ain't tough enough to go through landry stuff. You 604 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: tasted that, you know, and you survived that, you know, 605 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 4: so I see you and I say, hey, he could 606 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 4: have played with us. Now, you could have been one 607 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: of us. But anyway, the career you had once you 608 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: got to the Cowboys, man, it's just amazing. You know, 609 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 4: starting at line, what do I got? One hundred and 610 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: thirty some games? One hundred and thirty six games you play? 611 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: How many fingers I got up? You know, right, exactly right, 612 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 4: that's a lot of games, and then one thousand and 613 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: one tackles, Yes, sir, wow, that one year you led 614 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 4: the Cowboys two hundred and twenty two hundred and twenty 615 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: two tackles. 616 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: That's still a record, yes, sir, it's still a record 617 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: for the career. 618 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: Woodson is the leader. I don't understand that, but anyway, 619 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: Woodson is the leader. But he's a safety playing back there. 620 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: But one thousand and one tackles, brother, in your career? Now, 621 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: who was the one thousand and one? Who's that last guy? 622 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: You remember? 623 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: Who the last tackle was? 624 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: I really I think the last one it had to 625 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: been John Riggins. I think it was John Riggins and 626 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: I think it was the last one of. 627 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: It was. 628 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: I think it was the season where we went one 629 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: and fifteen. We beat the risk Ins the last game. Okay, right, 630 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: so oh man, Yeah, it was a tough season. But 631 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: I I had a lot of tackles and I enjoyed 632 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: every single one of them, and I wanted to put 633 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: myself in a position where I could make more. So 634 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: that's why it was vitally important for me to learn 635 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: the defense where it became second nature to me, where 636 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: just I could just step out there on the football 637 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: field and man, see you see it based on down 638 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: in distance, the position on the field, and the formation. 639 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you the first I'm gonna sell you 640 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: the players that you're gonna and if somebody moved, I 641 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: had to make the adjustment because I'm the quarterback of 642 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: the defense. So I'm engineering this victory. I'm engineering the 643 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: way with what we're getting to put on your butts. 644 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: And going into the game you're gaining and game planning. 645 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: You got to really really be on it. I mean, 646 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 4: you got to put people in position, make sure they're 647 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: not out of position, and this and that, you know, 648 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: because if there's not a question, that's right, Coach Sandriy 649 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: coming to you, right, what's the problem? You know? 650 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: Right? 651 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: So the flex defense was based on that, based on 652 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: the strength and weaknesses, on what the tight end was 653 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: or where there's two wire receivers worth. If somebody moved, 654 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: the whole defense change. So I got to get it 655 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: to these guys up front. And then not only that change, 656 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: but the coverage change. So I had to be in 657 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: tune with the guys behind me. But that's the that's 658 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: the greatest thing about playing uh a defense that was 659 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: so structured, and that was so that you had to 660 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: be in tune with everything and everybody, and everybody had 661 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: to be in the same place at the same time. 662 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: They had to be in position, but you still had 663 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: to bring the aggressiveness because you can't. 664 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: There's nothing soft the n F. In the n F 665 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: and nobody. 666 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: Nothing about that. Your legs, all of this, they trying 667 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: to come. They trying to run through your heart, grab 668 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: your chick, run through your chest, grab your heart, and 669 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: short to you before you die. 670 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: And so that's what it was all about. 671 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 4: But uh, you know, and then now you had six interceptions, Yeah, 672 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: and you took one back that one Pittsburgh Steelers. 673 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: Is that right, Pittsburg. Tell me a little bit about that. 674 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: Man, I tell you we was in I think we 675 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: I know, we was in man and man coverage and 676 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: I hated man the man coverage. 677 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 4: You're on the back. I was on the back, okay. 678 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: And see whenever usually when they did man and man coverages, 679 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna come out of the game. I usually come 680 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: out of the game right, and then they put the 681 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: four defense back there. But this time, the the running 682 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: back and we're playing against the Eagles with Montgomery do 683 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: a swing, so I'm the linebacker, so I follow him 684 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: and they was doing a curl route behind it, right, 685 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: So instead of me just jumping up on wibber I 686 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: go to the curl route, jump the route picked six 687 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: first NFL touched down by the hit machine. So it 688 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: was the Eagles, yes, Phil, Phil Egles at home or 689 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: it was at home man. That's it was what God 690 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: could see his favorite What do you do you used 691 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 3: to that? 692 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 5: Now? 693 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: What did you do? I biked that ball? Don't keep it? 694 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: I held it up like whoa, I really did. I 695 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: had to look at it. 696 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: If I really had it in my hands, right right right, 697 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: sad to be a special moment. 698 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: Your dad was there, Yes, that My dad was there, yes, sir. 699 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: And I got the biggest hug after the game coming 700 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: from Dad, Yes. 701 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: Sir, that's it was awesome man, Yes, sir. Well you 702 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: know you had so many great moments, a thousand and 703 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: one hits and all that to twenty twenty two, twenty 704 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: two in one season. 705 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. That was the year. It had to 706 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: be the year. 707 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: That's in eighty nine, that's Landry's last year. 708 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, yes, it was, uh, I tell you it was. 709 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: That was that was had to be tough. 710 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: That was that was. 711 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: That was sixteen tackles a game, and that's when we 712 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: were playing against the guys like Kristen o'cardier, them big 713 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: lineback and big lineman. You're playing against the Riggins and 714 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: Earl Campbell's these guys, man and sixteen times game. But 715 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: you know I wouldn't trade it for nothing in the world. Man, 716 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: It's no sense to me being out there on this 717 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 3: dang field if I'm not going to be doing something 718 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: I want. 719 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: I want to be doing so. I want to be active. 720 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: It's no since I may well see on the bench 721 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: if I'm not gonna be president. My present needs to 722 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: be known. I just didn't want to play for no 723 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. I wanted to be all pro. 724 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 4: You want it. 725 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a Hall of Famer. You know 726 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: that I want. 727 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: I need to be in that ring. I need to 728 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: do something out here to say that I'm worthy. Aware 729 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: iness throw on my head every game, game down time, Man, 730 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: walk down there tongue, Man, it meant something tells coming 731 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 3: down their eyes walking this hard the ground. Man, I 732 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 3: can't wait to get out that. I was hoping that 733 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: they want the toss and so we can get out 734 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: there on defense. I'm ready not differ. We want to 735 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: do that, man, So and again, man, the thing that 736 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: is different about the game now you don't see all 737 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: the camaraderie and the hard hits and the teams. 738 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: Doing the things we do. 739 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: Because if you made a tackle somewhere, everybody, let you know, 740 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: that's the way to do it. 741 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: That's the way to do it. Meet me at the ball, baby, 742 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: cheat me out. And then once. 743 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: You get a cohesion group of guys that loved to 744 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: do this and showed up at the. 745 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: Ball every single time. 746 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 4: Wow, man, and I see that in some teams in 747 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 4: the NFL. And those are the teams that having success 748 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: because they might be pros, but they playing like their 749 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 4: kids in college and all that and rest if like that, 750 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: rallying to the ball, you know, not depending on somebody 751 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: made that tackle while way over here. I don't need 752 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: to get over there. 753 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: Now, this is not this is a grown folks you 754 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: might bust out of there or the ball come flying out, 755 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 3: get around the ball. 756 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 4: Get in the film. 757 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: This is a this is a grown folks game. In 758 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: the film. We're not kids, you know. Grown folks take 759 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: care of. 760 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 3: Their kids, right, So we take care of of all defense, 761 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: and we be sure that we take care of the 762 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: reputation that the Cowboys are so used to and that's 763 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: been America's team. 764 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: Did you think Coach Landry it was time for him 765 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: to go at that point? 766 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 14: Uh? 767 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: Well, you know that's hard. It's a hard call, but 768 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: you know it was made. And you know, Coach Landry, 769 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 3: who could have ever said when it was the right 770 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: time for such a an innovator to to to leave 771 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: or to go? 772 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: Uh? Perhaps it was, but we'll we'll never know. 773 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 4: But only reason I say it is the right time because. 774 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: The surroundings of the game, the structure of the game changed, 775 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 3: Howery Cap and all this kind of stuff started playing 776 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 3: into the game, and that prevented teams from building from 777 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: within the way they wanted to build and getting the 778 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 3: right players and going to Houston and finding Lockhart in 779 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: the sixth round and Drew Pearson as a free agent 780 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 3: and stuff. But it prevented them from building teams that way, 781 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: and it kind of took the edge away. And the 782 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: thing is, the thing is about the Dallas Cowboys when 783 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: coach and Andrew was here, was you never seen the 784 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: cow the players switching. 785 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: From team to team to team. 786 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 3: He there wasn't any of that. Coaches players and no players. 787 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. We still they still were with a family. 788 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 3: We stayed together, We played together one loads of draw, 789 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 3: win lose the draw. And that's the way, that's why 790 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 3: the cohesiveness of this organization and and the Cowboys organization 791 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: was so close, because we didn't see guy getting traded 792 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 3: to Houston or to Washington, and we didn't. 793 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: See all of that. 794 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,959 Speaker 3: But you know, as you asked me the question about 795 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: what it's time for coach Landry to leave, you have 796 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: the game had changed, you know, the salary caps and 797 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: all those different types of things, and it would have 798 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 3: been a totally different type of of uh of of 799 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 3: team and game then. And so perhaps it was the 800 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 3: best time for him to leave at that particular time. 801 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: And you know, and whatever, what better guy to bring 802 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 3: in to Jimmy Johnson and the Jones Jones family and 803 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: changes change a whole entil culture and and to get 804 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 3: the chance to play for both of them, Jimmy Johnson too, 805 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 3: and and to be a part of this Jones family 806 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 3: and the tradition that they've made here is just it's 807 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: just absolutely. 808 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: Think about the pressure on Jimmy Johnson and that staff 809 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: coming in. 810 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: Well man, what did they have to do. They had win, 811 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: they had to win, and yeah they and they did. 812 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 3: And they put together an organization, they put together coaching 813 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 3: staff that hey, that demanded that the cowboys, cowboys, uh 814 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: be back on top, be back on top and be 815 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 3: exactly what they are. They're gonna get back there. It 816 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 3: won't Yes, We're don't get best. Yes, mister Jones gonna 817 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 3: do with mister Jones does Hey, he gonna make it happen. 818 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna make it happen. Look, I heard him say 819 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 3: the other day. I heard him say on TV, he said, 820 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: my goal is to be the best owner with the 821 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 3: most Super Bowls before our retire ever. And I promise 822 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 3: you if he said it, you damn so well be 823 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 3: believe it. You better get him, give him, get him, 824 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,479 Speaker 3: don't bet against it. Hey, we got to talk about 825 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 3: you before we go. We got some screak and do 826 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 3: this all day, but we got to talk about what you're. 827 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 4: Doing now, sir. A little hiccup you had in your 828 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 4: life had overcame that because I think a lot of 829 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 4: people need to hear about that. How you can hit 830 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 4: that rock bottom and come back out of that. 831 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: We can do that. 832 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 4: He'll be just a hitting machine. All right, we'll do 833 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 4: that when the route tree continues right after this. 834 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 6: Every day begins with the prom a promise to work 835 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 6: hard and to build a future. 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You have some great talent, and they 858 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 7: got some fight. Hoping this is the year me too. 859 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 7: Oh I'm Cody. By the way, I'm Travis. 860 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. Travis. Go Cowboys Go. 861 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 8: Cowboys make a new friend based solely on their shirt choice. 862 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 9: What would you like the power to do? 863 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 8: Bank of America the official bank of the Dallas Cowboys, 864 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 8: Copyright twenty twenty five. 865 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 10: Bank of America Corporation at. 866 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 11: AT and T. 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You didn't like that electric cole. 887 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't doing too much hitting in that 888 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 4: cold weather. I hear your brother, and then you know, 889 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 4: the career kind of was older, you know. And uh 890 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,959 Speaker 4: so what did you get into initially into your life 891 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 4: after for you graduated from the university and with a 892 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 4: mass math degree with a with a marketingunt marketing and 893 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 4: accounting degree, right, huh yeah. 894 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 3: So I graduated from there. So after my career was over, 895 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 3: of course, you know, I wanted to give in the business, 896 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 3: and I started a couple of companies. Here have a 897 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: swim pool company where would build custom pools, and then 898 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 3: we had a one hour photo lab. And then of course, 899 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: you know, I got into the mortgage industry and that's 900 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: when I got into some trouble back then, and then 901 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 3: I had to pay penalty for had they threw a 902 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: red flat through the flag on me. So I had 903 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: to go and do some time in jail. 904 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: For your escapegoat. I know them all about that situation. 905 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 4: Who was in the court with you that day? 906 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 3: You was there with you, was there, and Randy White there, 907 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 3: A lot of the lot of guys were there to 908 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: support me. And it meant so much to me because 909 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 3: I was put in a position where I had to 910 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: take the rep for something I did not do. And uh, 911 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: it still hunts me today because I know I didn't 912 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 3: do it, but I did at the time, and it 913 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 3: was very unfortunate for me. 914 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: But I tell you it's one of the best. 915 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 3: Things that happened to me because I got a chance 916 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: to do something that I really wanted to do, and 917 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: that was bring people to Christ. Right now, I'm doing 918 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 3: ministry right now as well. And uh, ninety nine men 919 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 3: through there, you know, I started. I started the church 920 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 3: when I. 921 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: Got in there. When I got in thereinety nine men 922 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: ended up giving. 923 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: Their life to Christ. So it was well worth it. 924 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: I learned a lot from it. I learned a lot 925 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 3: from what I learned from the Dallas Cowboys and being 926 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 3: in the NFL teamwork how to bring some people together 927 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 3: for one common denominator. And just because we're there done 928 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 3: to mean we have to stay there. Just because you lose, 929 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 3: doesn't mean. 930 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 4: To say that again, just because we're there, you don't 931 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 4: have to stay there. You don't have to say we're 932 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 4: just coming to void the visit. Man, right, Just because 933 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 4: we look like we're losers right now, doesn't mean we 934 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 4: stay there. 935 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 3: You know, we're just visiting just for a minute. But 936 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 3: when you leave, you be sure you leave your mark. 937 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 3: You leave your mark, you leave your leadership, leave leave 938 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 3: it somewhere where people can still talk about you when 939 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: they're gone. Okay, And so those are the things I 940 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 3: wanted to do. And now you know, I just do 941 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 3: a communius, a manter of churity to work. I feed 942 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 3: the homeless, you know, I do that. I'll do a 943 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 3: game watching Cowboys game watching party. You're port of there 944 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 3: as well. And then this year we did about eighty 945 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 3: five hundred toys for Toys for Todds for Christmas. So 946 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of different things happened. But 947 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 3: that point in my life, it took me down for 948 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 3: a minute. It took me down for a minute. But 949 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 3: at the same time, every single day that I was there. 950 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: I was trying to make a difference in somebody's life. Yes, 951 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: and then because I knew one day that I was 952 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 3: going to get out of there, but I didn't, you know, 953 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 3: I was going to get out. And when I get out, 954 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 3: I got out. It's the same thing, the winning attitude, 955 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: it's who you are. It's a mentality on the inside 956 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 3: of you. Just just won't let you quit that I 957 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 3: am somebody, I'm God's child number one, and that hey, 958 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: I didn't I Hey, I didn't do it. But that's okay, 959 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 3: whatever I was and nay, nine men gave their life 960 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 3: to Christ. That's the most important thing that happened. 961 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: And you didn't let it define you, right, you know 962 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 4: you covered from that exactly. 963 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: You covered gracefully. 964 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 4: And I got the honor, had the honor of recting you, 965 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: presenting you into the Texas Black Works Hall of Fame. Yes, sir, 966 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 4: And I said that, you know, I said, he's been 967 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 4: knocked down. Yes, sir, he had knocked a lot of 968 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 4: people down that didn't get up, but he got knocked 969 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 4: out and got up, got up and met the challenge 970 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 4: and came out on the other side. And now you 971 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 4: have black college sports Hall of Fame and hopefully that 972 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 4: open up the doors and some more recognition you deserve 973 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 4: in your life after football. 974 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 3: And you know, I just want to just be a 975 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 3: part of this Dallas Cowboy organization, to be a part 976 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 3: of the alumni organization. And I tell you just because 977 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 3: you get knocked down and we all and we all 978 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 3: all to an extent, all have something that we've been through. 979 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 3: But we pressvere, we move on. We don't we don't 980 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 3: we don't look down. We look up because if you 981 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 3: ever feel like you're gonna fall, you want to try 982 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 3: to land on your back because if you can look up, 983 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 3: you can get up. But when you get up, you 984 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 3: gotta rise and grind. You gotta rise and grind. You 985 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: gotta rise and grind something on the inside of you 986 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 3: won't let you stay for a loser. 987 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: The losers and faith and it just doesn't live the 988 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 2: same place. 989 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 4: Don't kick on me, take no dirt on God, grind baby, 990 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 4: I'm coming. That's so that's so cool, man. 991 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, you you showed that that's the way to 992 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 3: do it. And I hope everybody that's listening can get 993 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 3: that kind of message, you know, because everything ain't perfect 994 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 3: in our lives. We all run through some adversity, But 995 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 3: how do we handle that adversity? That's that's the Do 996 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 3: we use that adversity as a challenge and use that 997 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: to step on bigger and better things. 998 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 4: And that's what you did. You use it a challenge, 999 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 4: and now you stepped on the bigger and better things. 1000 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 2: Why you live? 1001 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 3: Use it as a stepping stone to move yourself into 1002 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 3: higher heights. But recognize what you have to go through. 1003 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 3: If it doesn't kill you, it should make you better. 1004 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 3: And I'm a better person because of all the bad 1005 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 3: versuses that we've been through in my life. But look 1006 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 3: at us now. We are still here and we're making 1007 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: marks in U some other kind of way of our lives. 1008 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 3: And you know, to be a part of this show 1009 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: with you and UH, to see how you continuously to 1010 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 3: UH to graze people with your presence, and how you 1011 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: continue to to bring in their former players and allow 1012 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: them to have a voice, It's just awesome to see 1013 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 3: and be a part of it, and to be a 1014 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 3: part of this cowboy organization. Hope, prayerfully I'll get a 1015 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 3: chance to be even a bigger part of this organization 1016 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 3: because I love the Jones family. I love the Dallas Cowboys, 1017 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 3: I love our fans, and uh just looking forward to 1018 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 3: getting back and being a part of this organization. 1019 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 4: You know, they're there. They need to bring you back, 1020 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 4: you know, include you more into what's happening around here, 1021 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 4: because that passion. Yes, that's real, that's real, that's what 1022 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 4: we need. Okay, play when you present that to the players, yes, 1023 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 4: they can tell whether it's real or now. Yes, and 1024 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 4: they can see I feel it right now, exactly right. 1025 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 4: So anyway, hopefully this can open the door to you 1026 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 4: becoming more involve as part of the Cowboys family and 1027 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 4: that looking for people can read and hear about your 1028 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 4: story and get inspiration through that story. 1029 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1030 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 4: So we had been that inspiration to us today and 1031 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 4: all was tuning into the Route Tree. So we appreciate 1032 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 4: having Eugene the Hitting Machine lock art with us. One 1033 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 4: of the coolest names nicknames in all of sports. Thank you, Gene. 1034 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 4: We'll be back next week with another edition of the 1035 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 4: Route Tree hood Tune In. 1036 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 6: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1037 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.