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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Now, let's go Stick

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Speaker 1: and Geniu.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, big boy, let's go.

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Speaker 3: What a week for you?

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Speaker 1: Let's go. What what was it.

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Speaker 3: Like to go to an actual sporting event.

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Speaker 2: And not only to go to a sporting event, my

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Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats. When saw them on the road, it was

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Speaker 2: a blast, Chris, I gotta tell you it was. It

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Speaker 2: was absolutely just a blast. Well with two of my

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Speaker 2: fraternity brothers. Uh Yo Bob and Resin.

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Speaker 3: And do they still go buy those names?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: In their regular walk of life. They're Yo Bob and Resin.

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Speaker 2: Yo Bob Resin, Thumper Keg.

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Speaker 1: So what was your name? The sounds like your obscure

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Speaker 1: movie comedy guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was so much fun, I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you it was. We went over to the campus,

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Speaker 2: had something neat beforehand, and I gotta tell you, the

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Speaker 2: kids just don't party like they used to, Chris. They

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Speaker 2: just you know, we were talking to about these twelve

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Speaker 2: to fifteen young co eds. No guys came up to

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Speaker 2: hit on them at all for like the hour we

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Speaker 2: were talking to them.

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Speaker 1: We're kind of in a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit of a different world now too.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's not necessarily the way that the kids

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Speaker 1: go about it anymore. They meet on social media sites.

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Speaker 1: They know each other probably before they go out. Chris,

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Speaker 1: that age and era that you lived in that I

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Speaker 1: lived in doesn't really exist anymore, not even to go

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Speaker 1: up and say, hey, girls, how you do it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy. I think, Actually I'm not in

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Speaker 1: that world. I guess I can. Mary, You're probably the

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Speaker 1: if that's as common as it was back in the day.

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Speaker 1: And they probably saw these strapping young lads that were

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Speaker 1: already talking to these females, so they thought they had

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Speaker 1: no shot at all with who was in keg and Resin.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it was just it was just resident

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Speaker 2: your sorry, your brother's brother, Yo, Tom couldn't couldn't come,

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Speaker 2: but they took pictures for us. They asked me if

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Speaker 2: I was if they were my dad. I'm like no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we all went to school together, so we're all there

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Speaker 2: all this.

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Speaker 3: What do you like?

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: I would have taken dad as a as a badge.

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Speaker 1: I would have borne that You're lucky. Probably didn't think

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Speaker 3: It was a good game. Though I was watching, I

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Speaker 3: was looking for you.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't find you amongst the It's weird to watch

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Speaker 1: college basketball to me in November because I'm so in

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Speaker 1: gone I went to Spokane to see Oklahoma and Gonzaga

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Speaker 1: going on. And I watched that game. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: the NBA isn't going on either. But you watch that

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Speaker 2: Right they play there, They play their big games on

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Speaker 2: This one was on campus and it was rocket. I

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Speaker 2: I got into it with a few fans out of

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Speaker 2: The fans didn't know it, and I got to break

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Speaker 1: You know what this slike? Drive is for you when

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Speaker 1: you go to a sporting event to want to get

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Speaker 2: I wanted to break the bad news to them. So

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Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun and I was actually

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Speaker 2: I got a I got a good kick out of that.

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Speaker 1: That's you.

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Speaker 3: That's your There's a.

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Speaker 2: Guy that does a company that calls Bob breaks bad

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Speaker 2: news and you can call him up and pay him

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Speaker 2: my twenty bucks and he makes brad news to people.

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Speaker 2: I should start doing that. That'd be right up my alley.

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Speaker 1: But that sounds like something, Actually, are you sure it's Brad,

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Speaker 1: is it now John breaks bad news?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's something like that. Somebody's I mean,

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Speaker 2: let facts get in the way of a story.

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Speaker 4: I can.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the fans were cool. Great game, they

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Speaker 2: took the lead, we blew a thirteen port lead, but

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Speaker 2: know it's pretty much meaningless this type of year, but

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Speaker 2: it was just it's good to see these teams play

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Speaker 2: everybody's gonna go to the tournament anyway, so whine out,

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Speaker 2: schedule more games like this and give the fans a

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Speaker 1: So that was listening.

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Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Sean, if you want to send your crappy tweets

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Speaker 1: because we talk about college football, your boy stinking genius

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Speaker 1: says ten minutes talking about a college basketball game. So

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Speaker 1: leave me alone. Hey, let's talk about the breaking news.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Sunday night football has become very lopsided.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are rolling the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. In fact,

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Speaker 1: who is ten? Well, who is that? Because you're making

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Speaker 2: But that's not the guy from the TV commercial. That's

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Speaker 2: the backup quarterback that comes in. And yes, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: It's not Jack Powers or whomever.

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Speaker 1: Two seventy three three touchdowns tonight from Matt Stafford. He's

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Speaker 1: which was by far the most embarrassing performance in the

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Speaker 2: I'm not close to getting fired for being a Raider film.

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Speaker 1: Not Las Vegas. Okay, that bit's getting old. Not Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas Raider, not Oakland Raider, not Los Angeles, not Oakland

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Speaker 1: like Raiders history. Today was embarrassed. Shador Sanders is not

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Speaker 1: very good. I mean, he looked fine today. I give

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, did you watch every snap?

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Speaker 2: Not every snap?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I give him a C minus watching every snap?

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Speaker 2: Why would I punish myself? Why would I watch everything?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're great, but see. That's my point is

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Speaker 1: I'd give him a beat B plus. You didn't watch

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Speaker 1: every snap You're great, doesn't mean a damn thing. You

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Speaker 1: watch the highlight you watched. You watch the one throw

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Speaker 2: Guy, what I saw one hundred times, trust.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna see it a thousand times off shit

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders did not do anything anything created to

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Speaker 1: try to put pressure on him. So you watch your

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Speaker 1: hope right now. That was more about how ridiculously bad

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Speaker 3: Not you're around on your parade, just dropping facts.

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Speaker 2: I never thought they were the Raiders would lose that game.

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Speaker 1: I thought they I did. No.

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Speaker 2: I said, look, it's one thing though.

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Speaker 3: You obviously haven't paid attention this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're playing in a home rookie quarterback hasn't

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Speaker 2: been done since What did they say? Eric Zaire. Is

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Speaker 1: He's the analyst on the Georgia radio network industry after

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Speaker 2: Mean, I I just didn't think he was gonna I

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Speaker 2: I said, some of the stuff I saw it looked good.

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe they held you guys to ten points.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can stop saying that you haven't watched this

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Speaker 3: Because you're not watching it.

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Speaker 1: You have no idea how terrible this.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not that. It's not about the personnel. I'm

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Speaker 2: you know tom Brady, you know he's gonna finally say, hey,

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Speaker 2: my name's on this thing. And I can't have pulled.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady into this. For who cares about Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: I won a serviceable offense.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna who You're gonna blame Davis, you know

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Speaker 2: you're gonna blame something. I'm gonna blame the owner. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to redo everything now with Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: Should it? Just keep listen?

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Speaker 1: Arnie doesn't want to change anything because we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to redo everything from this embarrassment of a two to

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Speaker 1: crappy teams like the Browns got destroyed, got destroyed by

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Speaker 1: the Commanders, the Charger stink now got destroyed by them

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Speaker 1: in week two. This is an absolute embarrassment, Arnie. So

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Speaker 1: you could see him like, oh, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: you would make changes. You're a crazy person. I didn't

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Speaker 1: say why you would. Where would you start though?

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Speaker 2: With the coach, with a quarterback, offensive coordinator everywhere?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It at all? Yeah, No, it was embarrassing. And

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Speaker 1: every single Raiders fan that has lived this pain for

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Speaker 1: the better part of the last twenty years is embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: and they should be. We're bad. It's so bad. We're better, Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, Derek Carr wasn't so bad everyone that clowned

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Speaker 1: on him for years and years and years. Look this

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith is flipping off the fans as he leaves

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Speaker 1: the field. You'll owe a major apology to that guy

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Speaker 1: that was holding up the sign whenever they played Seattle

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Speaker 1: in the exhibition game. I mean, the dude that said

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Speaker 1: he was a bigger bust than JaMarcus Russell. That guy

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Speaker 1: was right. But again, like where do you start? And

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Speaker 1: the offensive line can't protect they gave up ten sacks

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Speaker 1: to day. They can't run the football because when Jenti

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Speaker 1: Gino's spooked in the pocket, can't do anything. It's just

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Speaker 1: you gotta start some So just firing an overpaid offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy about this whole thing. The Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Winning season. I'm only talk about playoff wins. I'm not

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Speaker 1: But now it's like he's more interested in being the

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Speaker 2: Do you even look for a quarterback? Where do you start?

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Speaker 1: Timanny that I saw against Arkansas pretty good too about Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: I want I want anyone outside of that dude that

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Speaker 1: He has got to be the worst quarterback in the NFL. Arnie,

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Speaker 2: You don't want to know what do you think that

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Speaker 1: He must suck. I mean, I have no idea, I

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Speaker 2: It's got to be frustrating. There's no I know what

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Speaker 1: You don't know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm going through it. Because if the Dolphins win a game,

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Speaker 1: Hey, here we go, look at us, We're going to

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Speaker 1: You're like a You're like a golden retriever. I just

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Speaker 1: I'm the more I'm that'll watch that game next week

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Speaker 2: As to what I was thinking about Ken's dable, I know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But no, but just big name quarterbacks compared to the

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Speaker 2: Or what he was?

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Speaker 3: You gotta make me cuss on the air.

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Speaker 1: Mark Wilson was terrible, man, He was awful, But they

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Speaker 1: Come on, Jim, get back in here.

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Speaker 2: You know, was the quarterback for you that was good?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I would consider Jay Strader good,

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Speaker 1: The bottom line. The bottom line is this, Chip Kelly

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Speaker 1: this maybe gives Pete Carroll another year. He's fired their

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Speaker 3: So I don't know that helps anything.

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Speaker 1: Well with the breaking news now, aside in the Vegas

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Speaker 2: Never would have thought that the Cowboys were gonna come

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Speaker 2: it is. You should have seen the tweets from Cowboy fans,

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Speaker 1: I've seen this before. I try to tell you, every

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they were gonna pull it out against

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean you bury them every single week,

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Speaker 1: But again, you weren't close. Does not matter in these

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Speaker 3: They love that game zone.

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Speaker 2: Today I'm like, why can you can you just let

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Speaker 2: They gotta be losing their their marbles over this game.

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Speaker 1: Well, and today the Cowboys did a good job of

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Speaker 1: They lost, and whenever you lose in Philly, things get

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm still pretty surprised by that

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Speaker 1: Cowboys comeback today, Arnie borderline shocked, and it's the fourth

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Speaker 1: time in Cowboy history that they've had a twenty one

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Speaker 1: point comeback there first in eleven years. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: that's two and zero now since they made their deadline moves.

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Speaker 1: Now one of those doesn't really count because you beat

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. But I'm I come away here on this

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Speaker 1: week twelve edition of Arnie and Plank looking back on

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Speaker 1: the NFL week and that it was.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe Dallas is kind of my team of

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Speaker 3: the weekend with what wow.

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you something. I wonder what the

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Speaker 2: odds were nothing Todd is what kind of live betting

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Speaker 2: you could have got on them? And how much you

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Speaker 2: could have made. You probably could have gotten like ten

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Speaker 2: to one or something like that. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: the name I forgot was a Jim Punkett. How about that?

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Speaker 3: You know, don't get rich Gannon he won an MVP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't bring his name up either. I forgot

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Speaker 2: that one too, so I ate him on you for

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Speaker 2: not bringing up these other great quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned, Jay Schrader and Mark Wilson.

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Speaker 2: By the way. Mark, By the way, Mark Wilson was

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Speaker 2: considered a top ten quarterback for the Raiders of all time.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not.

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Speaker 2: I have the list right here in front of me.

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Speaker 3: Then that whoever put that list together needs to be five.

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Speaker 2: Jeff George number nine and Mark Wilson number ten, followed

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Speaker 2: by Jay Schrader number eleven.

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Speaker 3: Well, you just said he's a top ten quarterback of

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Speaker 3: all time. He's eleven.

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Speaker 2: That was Schrader. Number ten was Mark Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about Strader anyway. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't care who made that list.

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Speaker 8: I don't know I have it.

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Speaker 2: I googled it.

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Speaker 3: Stupid Raider fan?

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Speaker 1: Is it ai?

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Speaker 3: I'll give you.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the top ten worst Rader quarterbacks of

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Speaker 1: all time, JaMarcus Russell won, Gino Smith.

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Speaker 2: Two, Fox Sports Radio. Well, whoever did that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless it's Danny Gen needs to go a

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Speaker 1: lot of good stuff on the text line about it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to bag all your nights down

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Speaker 1: with my team because there's other stories. I think you

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Speaker 1: quickly veered away from the Cowboys here. Why are you

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Speaker 1: not wanting to kip your tip your cap to the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys snati?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and actually, well that's where I thought we

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Speaker 2: were gonna start. Where he said who saved their season?

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Speaker 2: Who didn't? Mine was gonna be the Dallas Cowboys. They

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Speaker 2: was there. You forget about it. They're not gonna have

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Speaker 2: any chance at making the playoffs now, they're kind of

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Speaker 2: right there. I don't know what percentage it is. I

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Speaker 2: don't have the odds on that, but it saved their season.

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Speaker 2: Down twenty one nothing, chances of losing was probably like

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Speaker 2: ninety seven percent. They could have just said they could

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Speaker 2: have just said that out with it, seasons done, were finished,

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Speaker 2: We'll just move on to next year. And they came back.

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Speaker 2: It's just incredible, especially against the team that was eight

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Speaker 2: and two at the time. So not only did they

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Speaker 2: save their season, they did it against all odds, I

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Speaker 2: mean astronomically. It was just crazy what the odds are

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Speaker 2: against them.

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Speaker 1: In this game, Dallas rang up four hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: three yards of offense.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles committed fourteen penalties, by far their most of

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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And I mean right out of the gates, Right out

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Speaker 1: of the gates. The Eagles had thrown for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty seven yards. I think that was the number

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Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter. I need to

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Speaker 1: double check my math on that. It's more than they'd

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Speaker 1: have that they've had in half of their games this season.

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Speaker 1: So it's almost as if they came like, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: show you can throw the ball, and then, for some reason,

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Speaker 1: following three touchdowns in the first to three possessions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles gained only seven first downs in their next

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Speaker 1: eight possessions, and in those eight possessions ran only three

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Speaker 1: plays in Dallas territory.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at ladies. Give Dallas defense credit, but

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Speaker 2: they make such an adjustment to shut down the Eagles

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Speaker 2: like that, or the Egos go away from their game. Poan,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I have to scoring three touchdowns. What

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Speaker 2: could possibly just bog you down like that? Is incredible?

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Speaker 2: That to not even you know, get one score the

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Speaker 2: next eight drives is incredible.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, let's let's let's table that for

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Speaker 1: a second, because I feel like that conversation you just

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Speaker 1: had about Philly Arnie that could relate to Indy today too,

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Speaker 1: because they're up twenty to nine and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, their offense just decided it's like now we're

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Speaker 1: done here, and it allowed the Chiefs to get back

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Speaker 1: in the game. So I got some numbers from that too. First, first,

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Speaker 1: our man Steve the Sager is in the house, and

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Speaker 1: look at everything that's going on in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: We have things a final, right, you bet you?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 8: It was great evening for the Los Angeles Rams, because

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Speaker 8: Philly blowing that lead means they're eight and three. The

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Speaker 8: Rams getting the easy win means they're nine and two.

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Speaker 8: The Rams are alone in first for the one seed

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Speaker 8: in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: And remember they are.

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Speaker 8: Going into today. They were tied for first and Philly

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Speaker 8: beat the Rams head to head with those two block

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Speaker 8: kicks in the fourth quarter earlier this season. This is

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Speaker 8: enormous for the Rams. A six straight win and also

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Speaker 8: with a Tampa Bay loss. Now the Panthers, who played

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Speaker 8: tomorrow night, could be solely in first in the NFC

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Speaker 8: South if they could beat San Francisco. This Rams win

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Speaker 8: was thirty four to seven over Tampa Bay. Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 8: does it again. Three touchdown passes in the first half,

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Speaker 8: two to Devonte Adams. Quarterback Baker Mayfield of the Bucks,

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Speaker 8: down thirty one to seven at the half, did not

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Speaker 8: return due to a left shoulder injury. He had one

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Speaker 8: touchdown two interceptions. Tampa Bay running back Bucky Irving still

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Speaker 8: out with shoulder and foot injuries. The Dallas win was

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Speaker 8: twenty four to twenty one over Philadelphia, even though the

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Speaker 8: Cowboys trailed twenty one nothing late in the first half.

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Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts with three total tds, but on a field

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Speaker 8: goal on the final play, Dallas wins it to go

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Speaker 8: to five five and one. Jacksonville could be in the

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Speaker 8: playoffs this year. Lawrence had three touchdown passes.

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Speaker 2: Who told you that a long time ago?

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Speaker 8: And four turnovers, So it is news that if this

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Speaker 8: quarterback performance keeps up and they still make the playoffs,

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Speaker 8: that would be something to see. Overtime win for the

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Speaker 8: Jags at Arizona twenty seven to twenty four. In the

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Speaker 8: AFC standings, the last three spots go to three seven

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Speaker 8: and four teams Chargers, Jaguars, Buffalo, Bills. The Steelers as

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Speaker 8: of now would be out. Pittsburgh wound up playing and

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Speaker 8: losing at Chicago today thirty one, twenty eight. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 8: three touchdown passes. Cleveland won at Las Vegas twenty four

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Speaker 8: to ten. Gino Smith was sacked ten times three by

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Speaker 8: Miles Garrett, and tonight the Raiders fired offensive coordinator Chip Kelly. However,

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Speaker 8: Pete carrol Son is still gainfully employed. There you go,

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Speaker 8: Atlanta Winter at New Orleans twenty four to ten for

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Speaker 8: the Falcons. That ends a five game losing streak. By

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Speaker 8: the way, Alvin Kamara left with what's called a sprain

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Speaker 8: knee and with a quarterback spot. It was Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: for the Falcons two touchdown passes, one interception. Because Michael

596
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Speaker 8: Pennix is due to have ACL reconstruction surgery this week.

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Speaker 8: Overtime wins for Detroit and Kansas City. New England won

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Speaker 8: its ninth straight game, Baltimore won its fifth in a row.

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Speaker 8: Seattle held on thirty to twenty four at Tennessee, which

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Speaker 8: is one to ten, and Green Bay beat Minnesota twenty

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Speaker 8: three to six. Running Back Josh Jacobs out with a

602
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Speaker 8: knee injury today and the Packers do play Thursday at Detroit.

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Speaker 8: It'll be Thanksgiving this week. Today Emmanuel Wilson got twenty

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Speaker 8: eight carries for one hundred and seven yards and two

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Speaker 8: scores for the Packers. Cal fired football coach Justin Wilcox

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Speaker 8: after nine years there. Florida State says coach Mike Norvelle

607
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Speaker 8: will return next season. In the NBA. Oklahoma City is

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Speaker 8: seventeen and one after ripping Portland one twenty two to

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Speaker 8: ninety five. Okse's won nine in a row. Tonight, Shay

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Speaker 8: Gilgess Alexander thirty seven points in thirty minutes on the court.

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Speaker 8: The Lakers got thirty three points from Luca Donsons. They

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Speaker 8: edged Utah one six, and Cleveland beat The Clippers won

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Speaker 8: twenty to one O five thirty seven points for Donovan Mitchell.

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Speaker 8: Kevin Durant of the Rockets is reportedly out for two

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Speaker 8: games due to a family matter. Aaron Gordon of the

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Speaker 8: Nuggets will miss four to six weeks with a strain hamstring.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, hey, by the way, to say, do

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Speaker 1: they have anything more on Mayfield's left shoulder injury.

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Speaker 8: It as soon as he grabbed it. I mean he

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Speaker 8: wasn't even down to the ground yet he was grabbing

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Speaker 8: it on that long throw at the end of the

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Speaker 8: first half, sling in the second half. That doesn't look good.

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Speaker 8: Because the left shoulder of Jordan Love at Green Bay

624
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Speaker 8: today was certainly not good and it affected his handoff,

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Speaker 8: but he still played a full game today. This, to

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Speaker 8: my eyes, looked more serious, though.

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Speaker 2: Are you knew right away what he was like drooping down?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It was drown But it

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Speaker 1: was so odd because you thought that maybe he threw

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Speaker 1: his shoulder out at first.

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Speaker 3: Whenever he went down, I was like, did he throw

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Speaker 3: a shit.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and it wasn't the throw and it wasn't ya right.

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Speaker 8: But now they've lost three in a row and now,

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Speaker 8: granted on their schedule and their division, they're going to

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Speaker 8: be playing what Atlanta and Arizona and the Saints. So

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying the season's over at six and five,

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Speaker 8: you could win, as we all know, at nine and

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Speaker 8: eight in that division, it's hardly over.

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Speaker 1: By the way. Funny thing Arnie brought up earlier, boy,

641
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Speaker 1: the red zone was infatuated with that Falcon Saints game.

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Speaker 2: It was killing me. It was really I thought maybe

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Speaker 2: it was just me, but it was a discost.

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Speaker 3: It was not just you.

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Speaker 8: They were the Saints' offense literally did not have a

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Speaker 8: touchdown and Tyler Shuck was sacked five times.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe someone in that room is

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Speaker 1: like a Falcons fan or what, but I mean you

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Speaker 1: even had yeah, I mean the Raiders game you didn't

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Speaker 1: need to go to the Cowboys game got good.

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Speaker 3: I kind of felt like the Eagles were up.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one zip and they knew the entire country was

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Speaker 1: getting that game, that they just tried to focus on

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Speaker 1: a few other.

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Speaker 8: Games or something, or maybe because there was no focus

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Speaker 8: on the game in New Orleans. Maybe they were getting

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Speaker 8: it for free, there was no rights fee whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the reason why focus wasn't saying, hey, Arnie,

659
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: you just brought up a really good point. Tarnt even

660
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: playing care. On Fox Football Sunday, you were talking about

661
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: the Bucks, I'm sorry, the Eagles and how it just

662
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: seemed as if their offense either didn't keep doing what

663
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: was working for them, they shifted their approach, or the

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00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense adjusted. Right, It's pretty wild to think that

665
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: you would adjust being down twenty one zip and there'd

666
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Speaker 1: be a magic adjustment to shut it down. I wonder

667
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: the same thing about the Chiefs Colts game. I mean,

668
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Speaker 1: the Colts looked like a Super Bowl team through three

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Speaker 1: and a half quarters.

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Speaker 3: They went.

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Speaker 1: They had a twenty nine lead heading into the fourth quarter,

672
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Speaker 1: but they couldn't get it done in the red zone.

673
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: That a couple of short field goals and you thought,

674
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: all right, that might be enough. But what ended up

675
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Speaker 1: happening is the Colts offense ended up having the football

676
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Speaker 1: for less than twenty six minutes, while.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs held it for forty two minutes.

678
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: They still last two drives though I believe the last

679
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: two drives were either three and out, three and out

680
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: or when they needed that first down to get some clock.

681
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: They never got it. They had to give the ball, Yeah,

682
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: the Colts. They had to give the ball back to

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. And that's that's where the eleven points in

684
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter came from. They just it wasn't wasn't

685
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Speaker 2: as bad as Philadelphia in Dallas. But yeah, in the

686
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Speaker 2: twenty to nine lead, and I thought, Okay, they're gonna

687
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Speaker 2: hang on to this, They're gonna figure a way to

688
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: pull it out. Their defense was really playing well, I

689
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: mean really well. I think Kansas City picked up a

690
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: long third down to keep things going, so I got

691
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Speaker 2: to give them credit, but that was a bad the

692
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: Colts of that one slipped through their fingers. They really

693
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: had that game on.

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Speaker 1: You can say it's not as either bad as the

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00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: Eagles or as good as the Cowboys, but when you

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Speaker 1: consider that Kansas City, I'm sorry. Indianapolis went on an

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Speaker 1: eleven play, sixty nine yard drive and up four minutes

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Speaker 1: and forty nine seconds, and at the end of the

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00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: third quarter they had a twenty to nine lead. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then after forcing a fumble on the next possession

701
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, they went punt punt, punt on the

702
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: next three possessions nine plays, six total yards. And what

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Speaker 1: they do on their first possession of overtime three plays

704
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Speaker 1: seven yards.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought they were gonna go for or

706
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: was it on Where did they punt in that first

707
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Speaker 2: possession in overtime? I think it was like from their

708
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Speaker 2: own forty or something like that or right around there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that my west, their own forty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm saying to myself, you give the ball back

711
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: to them, game over, and you know that's going to happen,

712
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: you might as well go for it, as if you

713
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Speaker 2: don't pick it up, you're gonna lose, and if you

714
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: punt it to them, you're gonna lose, So the hell

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Speaker 2: with it. You might as well go for it, or

716
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Speaker 2: least try to draw them off side. You gotta do something.

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Speaker 2: You can't just give them the ball back like that.

718
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Speaker 1: Well, but again, maybe they listened to the show last

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Speaker 1: week and they heard you say the Chiefs were done

720
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Speaker 1: and it is ov er over. Maybe that was what

721
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Speaker 1: they heard, and they're like, we got a chance here.

722
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Speaker 1: Arnie said they were finished. They've got no chance to

723
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Speaker 1: stop us.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, I know if the season ended today, they're

725
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Speaker 2: still not in the playoffs.

726
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Speaker 1: So would you want to play him in the first round?

727
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Speaker 1: Pumped them?

728
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Speaker 2: What do you mean think they're like the ten seed

729
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: right now? They're not even close to the playoff spots.

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Speaker 1: Wait? Wait, are you trying to say the Chiefs aren't

731
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Speaker 1: close to a playoff spot right now?

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Speaker 3: They're one game out.

733
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're behind Pittsburgh and the Texans also.

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Speaker 3: Again, they are one game out.

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Speaker 1: What did you see from the Steelers today that leads

736
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Speaker 1: you to believe that they're going to win a game

737
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Speaker 1: without Aaron?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to put too much into that with

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Speaker 2: now Aaron Rodgers. That's not really fair, is it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you told me Aaron Rodgers stinks who they?

741
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Speaker 1: I mean, if I listen to you, none of these

742
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: teams would be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I never thought it was going to be a great

744
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: year for Pittsburgh anyway. You're the one that was buying them.

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00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm buying and listen, they're sitting here at six and

746
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Speaker 1: five right now. They're tied for first with another team

747
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: who season apparently in it a few weeks ago, and

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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: that's the Ravens, who are now in first place.

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Speaker 3: In the season.

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Speaker 2: You brought up to three, You're brought north.

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Speaker 1: Sorry.

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00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: The three teams are the last three spots in the AFC. Chargers, Jaguars,

753
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: Bills all seven and four. The three teams chasing them Pittsburgh, Uston,

754
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: Kansas City all six and five. So six teams separated

755
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: by one game. Half of them get in that. Talk

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00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: about a great playoff race.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and it's pretty similar to what you're seeing

758
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: in the NFC right now. Uh now it's only one well,

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Speaker 1: I guess one and a half because you've got to

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Speaker 1: tie in there for the Packers, so it's kind of

761
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Speaker 1: hard to figure out. But they're seven three and one,

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Speaker 1: The Niners are seven and four, and you've got the

763
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Speaker 1: Lions at seven and four. The Cowboys are the Panthers

764
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Speaker 1: at six and five, and then the Cowboys are there

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Speaker 1: at five to five and one. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 1: draw thee. Yeah, it's a drop off. But again, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell me the Dolphins are still alive

768
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Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and I guess I need to say

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Speaker 1: the Falcons and Vikings are still alive.

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Speaker 2: I did the right I did the math on my Dolphins.

771
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Speaker 2: It came out to one point one six percent of them.

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me there's I'm sorry, So you're saying

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Speaker 1: there's a chance.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying there's a chance, but not a good chance.

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Speaker 1: All right. Got a lot of good stuff on Twitter tonight.

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Speaker 1: Most of it revolves around the Raiders firing of Chip Kelly,

777
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: which happened moments ago. But we've got what we learned

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Speaker 1: from week twelve in the NFL. We got Todd Furman

779
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: coming up. We're just getting started. It's a busy Sunday

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Speaker 1: night with Arnie and Plank on Fox Sports Radio. Fox

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00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

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00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live.

784
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: All right, it's Arnie and Plank coming to you live

785
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Quick reminder. With the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, you can stream us whenever wherever you happen

787
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: to be. Catch us in all of our Fox Sports

788
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the new

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: and approved iHeartRadio app. To search Fox Sports Radio in

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00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: the app to stream us live all day, every day

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00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one

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00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: of your presets in the iHeart app so it will

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00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: always pop up at the top of your screen. You

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00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: got a busy week here on Fox Sports Radio, Arnie.

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00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: When can the span your minions find you as well?

796
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: During the Thanksgiving week?

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00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: I see a lot of the the regulars are working

798
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: the holidays, so there wasn't a wasn't a lot of

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00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: fillings this holiday time. But I got Thursday Friday by

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Speaker 2: usual slot with VJ Husky ten pm to two am Eastern,

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00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be on Thursday and Fridays.

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00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Now we'll get you choosing to work with VEJ over me.

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00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: This is heartbreaking right now.

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00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: I I didn't choose.

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00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: Who you're the boss. You say you run this whole thing.

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00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: You didn't contact me, you didn't tell me you wanted

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00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: to work. I thought i'd give you the day off.

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00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: DJ getting that fillin makes me want to jump off

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00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: my roof right now, that you chose him over me,

810
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell you that right now. All right,

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00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: let's hit some of these tweets that are coming into

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00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: the show Late Night drug Tester, Right all right, I'm

813
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: thinking aj Brown is right and the Eagles have issues.

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00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: Do you happen to notice how he was talking gas

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00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni to the Cowboys fans when they got up

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00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: twenty one. Zi, But it was a really brief thing

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00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: and didn't make too much of a big deal. And

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Speaker 1: I like Sirianni, man, I kind of like that attitude.

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Speaker 1: Dude's want a Super Bowls. He can't hate on him

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00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: too much.

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Speaker 2: He can't.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, maybe there's a few deeper issues right now.

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Speaker 1: Whenever it comes to what the what's going on in Philly.

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00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: They can't they can't hold on to a twenty one

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00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: zip lead. Oh' that's a tough look.

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Speaker 3: They you know what.

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Speaker 2: It was just kind of you know, I didn't see

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Speaker 2: it coming because the offense looks so good the first

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Speaker 2: three things, the first three possessions. I'm like, well, they'll

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Speaker 2: get it back on track in the second half.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 2: Look, even if they don't score three touchdowns, they'll get

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00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: themselves ten points, maybe thirteen seventeen points. They'll be just fine.

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Speaker 2: Not even close to that.

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Speaker 1: Johnny, I understand your frustration with the Raiders plank, but

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Speaker 1: what the heck is Brady doing to help the team.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of my point, he's he's not.

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Speaker 2: No, I bought up Brady. You got mad at me

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Speaker 2: when I did that.

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Speaker 1: Because what's he I mean, he's not really doing anything.

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Speaker 1: He claims he's not the general manager. He claims he's

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Speaker 1: not the OC or anything. So I mean he's apparently

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Speaker 1: there and was buddies with chip Kelly, So what does

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Speaker 1: that mean?

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Speaker 3: He got chip Kelly fired?

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Speaker 1: So I don't really I don't really know what his

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Speaker 1: role is and nor do I care. I like the

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Speaker 1: I like the idea that he got his ore and

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Speaker 1: his vibe around the team, But so far that hasn't

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Speaker 1: me and that hasn't been Diddley pooh. It's been like

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Speaker 1: the worst thing has happened.

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Speaker 2: We'll give him some time. I mean, it's what been

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Speaker 2: a year, so let's let's give him a little time.

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Speaker 1: Though. What is the amount of time to where you

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Speaker 1: think that things are going right when you take over

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Speaker 1: a team that is worse the year you take over

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Speaker 1: with no no conceivable hope for the future.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how much how much he's making

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Speaker 2: the decisions. Also, I have no idea how much he's

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Speaker 2: involved with that. This could be the first year that's

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Speaker 2: still making that he's making decisions. Who knows If Davis

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Speaker 2: isn't making the decisions, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it's coming from. Coach King Rex,

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Speaker 1: what the hell is thinking genius talking about? He almost

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Speaker 1: made me cuss to Mark Wilson, Arnie. Mark Wilson was guarded,

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Speaker 1: Jason writes Breton.

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Speaker 2: If he was on the top ten on that list,

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Speaker 2: I think he was ever.

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Speaker 1: Made that list is probably looking at all time passing

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Speaker 1: yards leaders.

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Speaker 3: And then one more on the Raiders, Brendan Wrights.

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Speaker 1: If I were Mark Davis, I would have done the

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Speaker 1: one thing they did tonight. They did the right thing there.

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Speaker 1: That's his start. I think by firing Kelly alone, our

875
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: offense will improve. The players hated him to their core.

876
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: Then again, our O line couldn't block me. That's true, Brandon.

877
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: And only six and a half till he was making

878
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: the sacred.

879
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: Said, well that so the Raiders are two and nine

880
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: right now?

881
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: Is that right?

882
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: So the Raiders sitting at two.

883
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: And nine or wherever they are, I'm so I don't

884
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: even care that that means that he made that amount

885
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: of game and in that short amount of time, Steve,

886
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: is that right?

887
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 8: My I was supposed to be six mil. I mean

888
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 8: that's more than some contracts full contracts.

889
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Or six as an assistant coach. And I was excited

890
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: and hired him too.

891
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: I know that was like, what are you doing?

892
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 8: He Carroll had never let a coordinator go mid season,

893
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 8: and now really two and a half weeks, it's two

894
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 8: got twice. He's also never had on a team that's

895
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 8: been this far under five hundred before.

896
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: Has he not?

897
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 8: In all the decades he's been a coach, pro or college.

898
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 8: The answer is he has not.

899
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: He does have a good, good view of the game, though,

900
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: I will give him he's got a great pettiger. I

901
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: don't know what he's doing, but he's you know he's doing.

902
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's doing over there whatsoever.

903
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Mister nobody has an interesting perspective, he writes. But Jim

904
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: Nansen Tony Romo acting like coming back from twenty to

905
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: nine was a big deal. Eleven point lead with twelve

906
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game. Any competent home team can

907
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, Casey doing it because Indy stopped playing

908
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: is nothing to impress me. It was one game, an

909
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: eleven point lead and a comeback in the fourth quarter.

910
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, dude, I kind of think

911
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: that's impressive. Maybe I'm too Maybe i've been and you two,

912
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: mister Nobody, and you too, mister Spaniel. Maybe you guys

913
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: have been too used to Patrick Mahomes doing this. But

914
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's normal. You don't usually when you

915
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: have an eleven point lead in the fourth quarter, you

916
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: don't blow that very often. Seems like it's happening a

917
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: lot in the NFL, and Gunner won more this segment.

918
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: Rights Carolina will be taking over the NFC South tomorrow. Wow,

919
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: disaster that precision hasn't made. Oh my gosh. All right,

920
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: when we come back, Todd Furman joins us as we

921
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: recap week twelve on Fox Sports Radio. Well, you had

922
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: some really wild comebacks. Cowboys were down twenty one zip

923
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: at one point for the first time and what is

924
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: that now eleven years since twenty fourteen. They come back

925
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: from twenty one points down to beat the Eagles. Chiefs

926
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: rally from eleven down in the fourth quarter to win,

927
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: and then you had some teams that survived. Now, in

928
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: our one, we didn't talk too much about the survival

929
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: because it's it's kind of hard to look at, right.

930
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: The Seahawks, the Giants, are the Lions, and the Patriots

931
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Arnie all didn't necessarily play their best games. Ravens, I

932
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: would throw the Ravens in there too, didn't play their

933
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: best games. And I even the Jaguars because I guess

934
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: you consider them right there in the playoff mix right now.

935
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: But what did they do?

936
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: They still found a way to win, unlike the Bills

937
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, which knocked me out of my survivor pool.

938
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: But I got to tell you something, dude, I'm so

939
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: torn because I love this league as a week two

940
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: week league.

941
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm so torn between watching.

942
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: Say that's Titan Seahawks game and thinking, how is that

943
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: game closed? Watching the Ravens, who finally started to pull

944
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: away late, watching the Delion seed overtime to be Jameis

945
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: Winston and the Patriots basically need the incompetence of Joe

946
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Flacco to win. I don't know. I come away from

947
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: these games and I'm trying to embrace the week two

948
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: week league, But doesn't it say something about how these

949
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: teams could be considered vulnerable?

950
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh there's a lot of them. That's where we don't

951
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: know who's gonna go ahead and when it this year

952
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: we look at the number one seeds. We talked about

953
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 2: the number one seeds and I'm like, I don't buy

954
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: in New England to go ahead and win this whole thing.

955
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: They're probably not even gonna be one of the favorites.

956
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: Maybe the Rams, yeah, I buy into them, but I

957
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: don't buy into Denver. I'm not buying into the Colts.

958
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: Ravens of won five in a row, but I certainly

959
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: were surprised. They were lucky, not lucky, but you know,

960
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: they struggled a little bit, to say against the crappy team.

961
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: I guess the best team I like is the Chargers,

962
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: and they've got injury problems like crazy, I'd so wide

963
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: open in the AFC. It's not even funny. It's crazy

964
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: out there.

965
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: It is. It is kind of wild, though, because I

966
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: have a hard time in judge, in judging whether or

967
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: not Arnie, we should be impressed with those teams that

968
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: found a way to win, or are more disappointed that

969
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: they put themselves in that position. Like how let's just

970
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: I know you're real focus in the AFC here, but

971
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about Detroit. Yeah that was that, Like, how

972
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: are you at home against a team that's got an

973
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: interim coachy. There are a couple of games in with

974
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: Mike Kafka and you're you're fighting for your life. You're

975
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: down double digits in this game in the fourth quarter, Like,

976
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: what are we even doing?

977
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Troy's got to make a decision. I don't have the

978
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: contract in front of me, but I think it's time,

979
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: and not that he had a horrible game, but.

980
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: Soon blame on Jared Golf.

981
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: Sooner or later, you got to move on from I

982
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: was thinking about this during the game. I'm like, you know,

983
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: this guy, he's done a great job, but within the

984
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: next what two years, I think it's time to move

985
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: on with him and start grooming somebody else. And I

986
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: think it's ready to go ahead and move on to

987
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: the next quarterback there.

988
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: Well, okay, then who is that? Well, you gotta pick it.

989
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to go ahead and figure that out.

990
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: I can't do everything for you, Chris.

991
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: I mean there's seven and four. I mean I think

992
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: they tend.

993
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but offensively they've had problems though this year.

994
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess my question would be, what would

995
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: you want from him? I mean he threw for two

996
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: seventy nine Today, he was sacked three times, a couple

997
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. Had to pick but I mean, it's gonna

998
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: happen in the league. I was, I didn't realize you

999
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: were this down on Jared Golf.

1000
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way we went on, this is one

1001
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: thinking that Lion fans. I mean again, if you look

1002
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: at some of the past offensive performances, it's not like

1003
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: they've been killing it like that in the last couple

1004
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: of times. I mean, Gibbs, that guy was crazy today

1005
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: to just I. Of course I had to play against

1006
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: him in fantasy football. They were just getting colabored. But

1007
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: that guy was on fire. He was crazy today, Yeah.

1008
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: He was. He was nuts. And then I guess the

1009
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: other storyline from today. I I know that the Packers

1010
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: have been on a roller coaster, but the Vikings have it.

1011
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: It's been one way and it's been down. And I

1012
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: saw stat today that blew my mind. I don't know

1013
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: if it's real, but I'm not going to let facts

1014
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: get in the way.

1015
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: Of a good story.

1016
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: No, don't let it get in the way.

1017
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: This is from Danny Heifitz, and this is true Media's numbers.

1018
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: But JJ McCarthy is now eight hundred and fifty first

1019
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: out of eight one hundred and fifty two quarterbacks in

1020
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: the history of this metric, which is EPA per drop back,

1021
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: the only player below JJ McCarthy is JaMarcus Russell. If

1022
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: you isolate it down to just third downs, uh, he's

1023
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: he's dead last. And for those that are wondering what

1024
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: the EPA is overall, it's like expected Oh jeez, I

1025
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: just had it right here in front of me. Ep

1026
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: eddicates above average performance. Negative ETA suggests uh, negative performance.

1027
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: It's expected points added. It's at statford quarterback, which measures

1028
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: their contribution to their team score on a per play basis. So,

1029
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: in other words, he's the worst at that since JaMarcus

1030
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: Russell when they started keeping expected points out at EPA.

1031
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: What'st terrible? That's horrible. I mean that's like I didn't

1032
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: think he was playing that bad where he was like

1033
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: the the worst.

1034
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: He's playing better than Jared Goff. And you want to

1035
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: catch Jared Goff right now?

1036
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: You know, there's I think I said this a couple

1037
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, or was it last week? I go,

1038
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: how about you? How long are we going to give

1039
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: McCarthy About a year or so, because the guy has

1040
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: too many games under his belt. Maybe I don't have

1041
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: to give that much time, Chris. Maybe I could just say, yay,

1042
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's time to move on from him

1043
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: and figure something else out.

1044
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: You know, I would, I would have to say more

1045
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: than anything else, Arnie. The bottom line. The thing that's

1046
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: impressive to me is how you still have people that

1047
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: are trying to tell you that he's good. Right. I

1048
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: mean it's there are analytics nerds. Even with that EPA

1049
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: stat that I gave you, they're like, oh no, no, no,

1050
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: whenever you look at it and you look at all

1051
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: these other percentages, he's still a really good he's gonna

1052
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: be I don't.

1053
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean, what is that that leash? What is that rope?

1054
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: Whenever you're thinking about how long you can experiment with this?

1055
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they tried to keep Sam Darnold around, Arnie

1056
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: are and they were apparently in the Aaron Rodgers conversation too,

1057
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: so they knew there might be some hiccups this year.

1058
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: Just how long can you go with it?

1059
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: You knew he wasn't going to be that great of

1060
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: a quarterback based on what he did in Michigan, right,

1061
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: It was like he put up the most ungodly numbers

1062
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: and what game was it? Where you know, you're just

1063
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: you're like handing the ball off like every other time.

1064
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: It's it's insane to think that this guy was going

1065
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: to come into the NFL and become, you know, in

1066
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: the next grade starting quarterback. I just didn't understand it.

1067
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: Well, everyone seemed to love him, so I mean, I

1068
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: guess it's I guess it's one of those things that

1069
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: the bottom line, more than anything else is they're.

1070
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: Stuck with him for at least a couple more years.

1071
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if they had a serviceable backup,

1072
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: Like if Carson Wentz didn't go out there for a

1073
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and you're like, oh, yeah, that's that's

1074
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. He's awful. You might see a situation where

1075
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: they could have gone like the Colts did. I mean,

1076
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: they had Daniel Jones last year, remember whenever, Yeah, you

1077
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: got cut by the Giants. The place he went was

1078
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: the Vikings. But yeah, listen, let me stop wasting times

1079
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: on bad teams. Here. It's already even playing on a

1080
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday because we were talking about teams that

1081
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: saved their season. Can I add one from Thursday night

1082
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: because this game was so wild to me, Yeah, yeah,

1083
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, Absolutely, Texans save their season with that.

1084
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that too. I had three teams,

1085
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: but the Texans, I believe.

1086
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 3: Who are your three teams?

1087
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: Overall?

1088
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: Again, just to reset Colts, I'm sorry, Chiefs.

1089
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: I had Dallas saved their season obviously with the win

1090
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: over Philadelphia Kansas City. I really believe had they lost

1091
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: that game, dropped the five and six, they would have

1092
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 2: their percentage of trying to get into the playoffs would

1093
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: have been less than a quarter. Twenty five percent wasn't

1094
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: gonna happen at that point. And Baltimore, even though they

1095
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: had won four in a row at that point after

1096
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: the win, it's five in a row. If they would

1097
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: have dropped the five and six, I would have said

1098
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: that's it. Their season would have been done. There's only

1099
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: what I really tried to look at this, and I

1100
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: know Arizona lost and they're pretty much done, but there

1101
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: was really only one team I felt season came to

1102
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: an end because they lost. And for some reason, I

1103
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: put Cincinnati in that category because they felt like, oh,

1104
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is gonna come back and try to save

1105
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: the season and make a run at the playoffs. I'm like,

1106
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: what what playoffs?

1107
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: What run are they?

1108
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: What's he coming back to? But now that they lost officially,

1109
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: I feel like there's seasons definitely come doing that.

1110
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: Well. If they would have won, Arnie, they would have

1111
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: been right there at four and seven with the Dolphins,

1112
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: so you've pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot, so it

1113
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that wild, right.

1114
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: Wow, are you going to throw that back in my face?

1115
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: Aren't I listen? I mean, the Dolphins haven't lost since

1116
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: you made that proclamation. They won too straight and.

1117
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: The Dolphins have like the easiest schedule in the history.

1118
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Speaker 1: Of football, So I listen as a friend. I don't

1119
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: think I would look at the schedule metric because you've

1120
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Speaker 1: been so dead wrong on that from I mean, the

1121
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: Cult apparently had the hardest schedule. We're going to be terrible.

1122
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: The Dolphins had the easiest, and they're like four and seven, Like,

1123
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Speaker 1: I are you looking at the right strength of schedule metrics?

1124
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: Are you just making up your own as you go along?

1125
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Speaker 2: Have you looked at we've gone through the schedule for

1126
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, I understand how about everybody? How about last

1127
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: week and when everybody was jumping on the dolphin beadwagon,

1128
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: and Mark Gruden was saying, I don't watch off of

1129
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Maybe John would, I say, Mark Rudens glad, I.

1130
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Call him that.

1131
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: John Gruden saying the same thing. Everybody jumping on that

1132
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: dolphin bedwagon, that's for sure.

1133
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Well, you do have the Mighty Saints coming up next week,

1134
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: so we'll see if you.

1135
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: Can way and then what the Jets after that? Uh huh,

1136
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: there's another win. Now we're now we're six and seven

1137
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: and we played Pittsburgh after that?

1138
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Right, yeah? When at seven and seven Pittsburg gone? When

1139
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: football weather? Have you seen boys? Whenever they play in

1140
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: cold weather, they're like a tortoise going back into it.

1141
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: Hope for global warming. Come on, let's go.

1142
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: Uh think at the Bengals. Joe Burrow could be back

1143
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: by then.

1144
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna give me. I would have worried

1145
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: about that. Stop it.

1146
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: You're not gonna worry about Joe Burrow.

1147
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna worry.

1148
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: Joe's not worried about a three win team. Sorry about that.

1149
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: Well, you're a four win team.

1150
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: You have a damn good four wind time my gosh.

1151
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: All right, a couple of other things I wanted to

1152
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: get to here real quick. I saw this on NFL

1153
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: dot Com and I thought it was an you got

1154
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: any other teams that save their season, you want to

1155
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: get the Dolphins in play.

1156
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: So I tried to avoid it all night long.

1157
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, if the Doves at play to be a different.

1158
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: Story, right, I completely and totally understand. Now Judy Batista,

1159
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com has an article in the headline says

1160
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: eight NFL narratives we can finally put to bed after

1161
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Week twelve on Sunday, and one of those in here

1162
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: is the Vikings know that they're looking at and made

1163
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: the right decision to go all in on JJ McCarthy

1164
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: this season. Her point is, yeah, it's not good, right.

1165
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: You can lay that narrative to bad that all they

1166
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: made the right move. You can lay the narrative to

1167
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: bad that the Ravens dug themselves too big of a

1168
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: hole in the early season.

1169
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: They're in the playoffs.

1170
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: But here was one that I've struggled with quite a bit,

1171
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: and the Bears won today. I don't know how catab

1172
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Williams basically laid the ball down in the end zone

1173
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: and gave the Steelers a touchdown.

1174
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how they lost that game.

1175
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: Crazy. It was holding like a loaf of bread.

1176
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

1177
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: But the narrative that she lays out in disputes is

1178
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: that the Bears are a mirage, and I still think

1179
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: they are. Sorry, Jonas, I know, Jonas Knox has got

1180
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: to be the happiest guy. Fox Sports Radio is a

1181
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: Bears fan right now because we're the Bears.

1182
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: They are right in the middle of it.

1183
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, they are that worst to first candidate, and

1184
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: they're still very much alive. They won today thirty one,

1185
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: twenty eight and don't look now, but they're eight and three. Arnie,

1186
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: the Bears are eight and three now, I still think

1187
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: they suck. This is the theory that Judy lays out.

1188
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Until Sunday, the Bears had not beaten a team with

1189
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: a winning record. The rest of their schedule will be

1190
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: a much tougher test, starting with Black Friday in Philadelphia

1191
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: and two games against the Packers. But on and beating

1192
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Bears toppled a winning team and did

1193
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: it without six defensive starters and with six games to go.

1194
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: There in first place in the NFC North. Now, he

1195
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: does add the Steelers have their backup quarterback today.

1196
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: You know, I look, I.

1197
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: Love looking at what the sov strength of victory, you know,

1198
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: teams that they've.

1199
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Speaker 3: Beaten, because in college football this year, oh is.

1200
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: It the If you look at what they've there's only actually,

1201
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: there's only one team worse than the strength of victory

1202
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: than them, than the Chicago Bears. You want to guess

1203
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: who that is?

1204
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: I don't know who.

1205
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: Another team making a playoff runt, the Dallas Cowboys, Bears

1206
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: point three toh nine, Cowboys point three to oh four.

1207
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: Everybody else way above that, way above it. So it's

1208
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: not even close. They've feasted, feasted off a really really

1209
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: easy schedule. That's what they've done.

1210
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: Kind of similar to the Broncos, only maybe the Bears

1211
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: have a little bit more offensive juice than the Broncos,

1212
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: where it's like, how are they good?

1213
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: How is this team sitting.

1214
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: Here at eight and two or eight and three whatever

1215
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: it is with the Bears. Ninety two of the Broncos

1216
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: ain't three of the Bears. I mean, you watch them

1217
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: play and it's just it's kind of mundane. They make

1218
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: some mistakes. But yet for the Broncos, their defense I

1219
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: think is elite. Denver reminds me a lot of Oklahoma

1220
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: and college football. For the Bears, I don't know anything

1221
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: on them that's elite, aren't he? And yet they're sitting

1222
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 1: here at eight and three right now in a division

1223
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: that we thought was going to be dominated by Detroit

1224
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: and maybe Green Bay, and the Bears are in first

1225
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: place right now.

1226
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: You know what's going to be cool about one thing?

1227
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you gave a lot of

1228
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: thought to this. Usually when we go to the playoffs,

1229
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: we see the games in Buffalo, in Kansas City, you know,

1230
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: the usual suspects. How cool is it going to be

1231
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: a home game in Denver finally like it used to be?

1232
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: And that crowd in Chicago a home playoff game? How

1233
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: awesome is that going to be? How long has it

1234
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: been since something like that happened? That that's gonna be

1235
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: the fun part of this whole thing?

1236
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, again, we're not going too terribly far

1237
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: back when the Broncos had a home playoff game, really,

1238
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean they it's not too terribly I mean, everything

1239
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: to me seems like it's not too terribly far removed,

1240
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: because I'm.

1241
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: Like, hey, didn't it just happen like in nineteen ninety five, as.

1242
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: Soon as they are, that's thirty years ago, right, wasn't

1243
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: Carl Mecklenberg on the Broncos the last time they had

1244
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: a home playoff game? But no, let's say the last

1245
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: Broncos home playoff game actually came in. We do have

1246
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: to go back to twenty fifteen. Wow, when they be

1247
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: so you're going and the Broncos, by the way, have

1248
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: Let's see, they've missed the playoffs. They made it last

1249
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: year in Sean Payton's first year. They missed the playoffs

1250
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three. So after they

1251
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and after Peyton Manning retired, damn arnie.

1252
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: They had they had been. They had a couple winning records,

1253
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: and there had a ninety seven se in there. But

1254
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: it's wild to see just how absent from the football

1255
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: playoff landscape they've been. And now, for the first time

1256
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: in a decade, they're gonna have a home playoff game.

1257
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: It looks like the Bears are longer than that. The

1258
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: ten years.

1259
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Let's look, when would you say the last the last

1260
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: time the Bears had a home playoff game?

1261
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: Man, maybe fifteen years, twenty years. I don't know the

1262
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: last time that.

1263
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: I always think that way.

1264
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: The last time the Chicago Bears had a home playoff

1265
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: game was twenty eighteen.

1266
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: Double doink.

1267
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

1268
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost whenever. That was the Khalil Mack trade

1269
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: here when they got Khalil Mac. Matt Nagy won Coach

1270
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: of the Year that year. To kind of give you

1271
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: an idea of just how that was a twelve and

1272
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: four football team. They lost the Eagles in the first round.

1273
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: But now, for the first time in seven years, they

1274
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: could have a home playoff.

1275
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: Game, right, I get those. I think games, aren't you.

1276
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: I think that's a really good point.

1277
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to see some different teams hosting

1278
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: come playoff time. All Right, when we come back to

1279
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios, we'll head of Vegas talk

1280
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: to our buddy Todd Ferman a recap Week twelve in

1281
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: preview Monday Night Football with Arnie and Plank right here

1282
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Ale's welcome in, Welcome him in.

1283
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 1: He is Todd Furman. Every single Sunday night, he Jones

1284
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: joins Arnie and Plank here on Fox Sports Radio.

1285
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: All Right, Saw it by the breaking news.

1286
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for doing something, Pete Carroll, But

1287
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the right move.

1288
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly is out.

1289
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: Offense have been an embarrassment, Todd, and maybe the lowest

1290
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: moment for the Raiders franchise in Vegas outside of losing

1291
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: the Jeff Saturday as an interim coach with the Colts.

1292
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: This is a pretty close one. A getting embarrassed by

1293
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: a team as bad as the Browns.

1294
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 9: You weren't impressed with the way that they were so

1295
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 9: buttoned up out of the gates against his quarterback making

1296
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 9: his first NFL start, and the Raiders promptly got themselves

1297
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 9: in a double digit hole week teams too often and

1298
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 9: so look. They did, of course make the change firing

1299
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 9: chip Kelly, but Pete Carroll wanted to do the organization right.

1300
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 9: He should probably fire himself, as this organization will yet

1301
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 9: again be going through a summer of rebuilding, trying to

1302
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 9: figure out how they can put the pieces together, not

1303
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 9: to become a five hundred football team, but just to

1304
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 9: make sure they have the foundation to compete three years

1305
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 9: down the road.

1306
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: You know, Tod, I said earlier, maybe Tom Brady got

1307
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: to get involved and start call the shots and everything.

1308
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: Who's calling all the shots?

1309
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 9: That's a great question, a great question, and I'm not

1310
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 9: sure anybody really knows the answer. Tom Brady has been

1311
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 9: a little bit more involved with the organization going forward,

1312
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 9: but of course his day job gets in the way,

1313
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 9: and you do begin to wonder if he would make

1314
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 9: in all in commitment to being in the Raiders front

1315
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 9: office and kind of moving away from his broadcasting responsibilities.

1316
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 9: I'm not sure the overlords at Fox would like that.

1317
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 9: I'm not sure it's what Tom Brady feels his best.

1318
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 9: But somewhere along the way, I mean, this organization needs

1319
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 9: a full foundational reset, and someone with a little bit

1320
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 9: of a championship pedigree like Tom Brady might be the fit.

1321
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 9: And you'd hope that he had the wherewith all and

1322
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 9: the ability to identify talent to know where the strengths

1323
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 9: and weaknesses of this group are. Because right now you're

1324
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 9: pointing the finger at Chip Kelly is essentially blaming the

1325
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 9: painter when the foundation on your home starts to crack.

1326
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm mad at the plumber because everything is falling apart

1327
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: in my house. Now, It's you're one hundred percent right,

1328
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: all right? No one wants to hear about these losers anymore.

1329
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Speaker 3: Are the Bears good? I'm looking at this SAT.

1330
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: They're plus nineteen in the turnover margin and there're eight wins,

1331
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: which again you can debate whether or not you consider

1332
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: turnovers to be a little bit of luck involved there too.

1333
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: But they're minus three in their losses. I can't figure

1334
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: them out. They'll make some plays that are as boneheaded

1335
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: as anything you've seen, and then Caleb Williams will look

1336
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: like a rock star.

1337
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: What do you make it of the Bears right now?

1338
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 9: It's a team that's learning how to win, and I

1339
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 9: think before you can learn to win big and win comfortably,

1340
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 9: you have to try and escape some of these close games.

1341
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 9: But as we saw last year with the Kansas City Chiefs,

1342
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 9: they found themselves on the right side of variants in

1343
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 9: a variety of one score games, and those kind of

1344
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 9: things regress. But Ben Jonson is cluded building a culture.

1345
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 9: This team believes and they don't let one mistake spiral

1346
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 9: into two or three or even more. Now, the one

1347
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 9: thing for the Bears and why it becomes a little

1348
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 9: bit of a cautionary tale. They've played one of the

1349
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 9: softest schedules in the NFL to they will play the

1350
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 9: most difficult schedule based on opponent win percentage from this

1351
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 9: week going forward, and that'll kick off on Black Friday

1352
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 9: against the Philadelphia Eagles. But they were able to erase

1353
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 9: a halftime deficit today against the Steelers, and every game

1354
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 9: you win, you stack that level of confidence. And they've

1355
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 9: built a little bit of good faith with their fans

1356
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 9: and have created a little bit of a margin of

1357
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 9: air in the division for what is going to be

1358
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 9: extremely competitive between them, the Lions and the Packers all

1359
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 9: the way to Week eighteen.

1360
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: You think, did you get my message when I said, hey,

1361
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: I think you should bet the Cowboys that comeback when

1362
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: they were down twenty one nothing? What kind of odds

1363
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: did you get on that?

1364
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 9: You know, the price never drifted as far as you

1365
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 9: would think in a game like that. I saw some

1366
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 9: six six and a half to one.

1367
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 10: But if you dug it that game from start to finish,

1368
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 10: I mean the Cowboys are the better football team.

1369
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 9: I mean they had some self inflicted wounds early on

1370
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 9: in the game, including an interception in the end zoe

1371
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 9: from Dak Prescott. Philadelphia gets the four to twoitous bounce

1372
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 9: on a roughing the punter call that shouldn't have been

1373
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 9: made since the ball was deflected and credit Dallas, and

1374
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 9: they continued to find a way to push even after

1375
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 9: they had a failed fourth down attempt inside the five

1376
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 9: yard line.

1377
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 10: Got to stop and we're able to go on and

1378
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 10: win the football game.

1379
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 9: They played extremely well, and you do wonder though, if

1380
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 9: they have anything left in the tank playing their third

1381
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 9: game in what ten or eleven did the days depending

1382
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 9: on how you calculate it on Thanksgiving knowing the raw

1383
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 9: emotion about losing a teammate, so I wouldn't be surprised

1384
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 9: that the Cowboys look like they were up against it

1385
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 9: against the Kansas City Chiefs in the afternoon game on Thanksgiving?

1386
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: Are the Rams the least talked about good team in

1387
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: the NFL right now? I think Stafford's put together a

1388
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: case for MVP, and they just were surgical tonight against Tampa.

1389
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 9: I mean, he is no doubt deserving of the MVP,

1390
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 9: and I think when the odds reopen at the majority

1391
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 9: of books, he will be a heavy odds on favorite.

1392
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 10: The only thing.

1393
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 9: Working against him would be, you know, the potential of injury,

1394
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 9: like it always is in the National Football League. But

1395
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 9: you mentioned how surgical he's been the first half. Truly

1396
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 9: went out there and dominated it, and like a fine wine,

1397
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 9: continues to get better with age. There are still some

1398
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 9: concerns on this Rams roster that, in my opinion, have

1399
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 9: to be addressed for they get to the postseason. The

1400
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 9: interior of the offensive line leaves a little bit to

1401
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 9: be desired, and look even a week ago, if the

1402
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 9: Rams don't force multiple turnovers against Sam Darnold, they probably

1403
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 9: lose that football game. But a lot of reason for

1404
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 9: optimism and excitement. They've done a tremendous job drafting well,

1405
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 9: getting a lot of young talent on the defensive side

1406
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 9: of the ball, and a one to two punch offensively

1407
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 9: at wide receiver in DeVante Adams and Pooka Nakua that

1408
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 9: are as difficult to cover as any in space.

1409
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: You did well if you took the double digit underdogs today,

1410
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: But regular people like to take the big favorites, don't they.

1411
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you didn't have any of those massive,

1412
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 9: outright upsets, but you did have some of the dogs

1413
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 9: that got home from an ATS perspective, so that always helps.

1414
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 9: But there's a lot of teasers and money line parlay

1415
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 9: liability and everything else that goes on. But it is

1416
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 9: always fascinating because for years you bet the NFL and

1417
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 9: all you had to do, and I say that sacetiously

1418
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 9: is identify the outright winner and you'd be able to cover.

1419
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 9: But you go down the board and see that the

1420
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 9: Ravens wanted didn't cover as two touchdown favorites. Of course,

1421
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 9: the Lions double digit favorites, they win, but don't cover

1422
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 9: New England on the road wins, it doesn't cover Seattle.

1423
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 10: The list goes on and on. So numbers do matter

1424
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 10: in this business.

1425
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 9: As people who found themselves involved in both the Arizona Cardinals,

1426
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 9: Jacksonville Jaguars game, and of course the four mentioned Bears

1427
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 9: the Steelers game, it's the importance of winning and losing

1428
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 9: between two and a half and three.

1429
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: At the risk of getting in trouble. From College tall

1430
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: cater my man Shady Sean on Twitter, I do want

1431
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: to talk about my Sooners and I just got your

1432
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: message somehow tonight, Todd.

1433
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 9: I guess they the new social media interface is about

1434
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 9: as difficult to navigate here as anything else.

1435
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: All right, good, but I'm with you. This is a

1436
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: dangerous game. The Sooners are playing now. It was a

1437
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: much different world On Saturday. They smothered the nation's one

1438
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: of the nation's top rushing defenses. But you got LSU

1439
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: on Saturday. They could be They're on their way to

1440
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs right now. What a year would a bounce

1441
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: back for this team, But they're doing it in a

1442
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: unique way.

1443
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 10: They sure are.

1444
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 9: I mean the defense is outstanding, but you do worry

1445
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 9: about the offensive shortcomings when they step up in class.

1446
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 9: But look, they have everything in front of them. They're

1447
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 9: a double digit favorite this weekend and home against an

1448
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 9: LSU team that looked anything but dynamic on the offensive

1449
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 9: side of the ball, sneaking by Western Kentucky is a

1450
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 9: twenty four point favorite last Saturday. But you can't take

1451
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 9: your eye off the ball. And I think the bigger

1452
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 9: question for the Sooners if they're able to hold serve

1453
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 9: in the regular season finale. You know, rule the committee

1454
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 9: give them a home game in Norman or will they

1455
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 9: send them out on the road. I think there is

1456
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 9: a great chance that you'll see a game in your building,

1457
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 9: and given the cachet around the brand, potentially being on

1458
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 9: that Friday night, knowing that the Four Letter Network has

1459
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 9: exclusive rights and I'm sure they don't want to let

1460
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 9: a blue, blue blood program end up getting relegated to

1461
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 9: some of the second year broadcasts that we'll see on

1462
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 9: that college football Saturday opening playoff day.

1463
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: You know, Tod always with these rivalry games, always look

1464
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: at the upsets there. You see anything this week, maybe

1465
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 2: Mississippi State over Old Miss on Thanksgiving, maybe Michigan beating

1466
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State or something like that.

1467
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 9: Well, I think the team that should be on upset

1468
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 9: alerts Orient Quite frankly, I wasn't overly impressed even their

1469
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 9: double digit win against USC. I know they're dealing with

1470
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 9: some injuries at the skill position, so we'll see if

1471
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 9: they get some reinforcements there with the Corey and Moore

1472
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 9: and Gary Bryant junior to return and Washington on the

1473
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 9: other side of things, will the Huskies get some of

1474
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 9: their key contributors back, both along the offensive line at

1475
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 9: the skill positions. But that is one of the more

1476
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 9: difficult places to play at all of college football, especially

1477
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 9: on the West Coast. Washington would have nothing more than

1478
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 9: a place spoiler. And while people want to look at

1479
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 9: a lot of these resumes in college football that these

1480
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 9: so called playoff teams have assembled.

1481
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 10: I'm not a buyer in Oregon as.

1482
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 9: A legitimate threat to win the national championship, and I

1483
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 9: don't think at ten and two they would find themselves

1484
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 9: inside the playoff given the weakness of the schedule overall.

1485
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 9: So I'll say that the Ducks as a six and

1486
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 9: a half seven point favorite or on upset alert among

1487
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 9: some of the marquee.

1488
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 10: Games that we're going to see this weekend.

1489
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: Quick flip back to the NFL side of things, because

1490
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: I guess we saw some teams survive today right when

1491
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: they didn't necessarily play all that well, and one of

1492
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: them was the Lions Detroit. I mean, you got Dan

1493
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: Campbell calling offensive plays. Now they've speaking of a roller coaster.

1494
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: Are you off the Lions Vandwagon? Are you still a

1495
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: believer that they can make some noise on the stretch.

1496
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 10: I'm still a believer.

1497
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 9: I mean, there's way too much offensive talent on that

1498
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 9: team to try ignore. I think the big thing that

1499
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 9: stood out in their thirty four to twenty seven win

1500
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 9: against the Giants today was that their offensive line was

1501
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 9: completely overwhelmed by that Giants defensive front. Now, credit to

1502
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 9: the Giants, they have an elite defensive front with a

1503
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 9: ton of first round draft capital there. They're just a

1504
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 9: little bit weak in the back. So I don't think

1505
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 9: the Lions are going to see that kind of pressure

1506
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 9: on a week in, week out basis, but they're going

1507
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 9: to need to get better in the trenches. They're getting

1508
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 9: a little bit healthier on the defensive side, and it

1509
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 9: should set up a fantastic matchup in the NFC North

1510
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 9: where the Lions are a three point favorite on Thursdays,

1511
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 9: they'll welcome in the Green Bay Packers. In terms of

1512
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 9: trying to exactly measure revenge for a game where they

1513
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 9: were blown out Week one on the road of Lambeau.

1514
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: Todd, we were talking about this earlier. With the AFC

1515
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: just so wide open, how could you not get some

1516
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: favorable odds with some of those teams out there. I mean,

1517
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: you don't even have to take like the one, two

1518
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: or three seeds. You could take some of the bottom

1519
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: seeds and get some good value there.

1520
01:07:59,040 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 10: I mean, there are plenty of.

1521
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 9: Good rice is out there if you feel that you've

1522
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 9: been able to identify a team, and I don't remember

1523
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 9: a conference in recent memory where we're going into the

1524
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 9: Thanksgiving holiday weekend and you don't have a team price

1525
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 9: at less than four to one to win the league.

1526
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 9: I mean, throw a blanket all over the Colts, Patriots, Broncos, Chiefs, Ravens.

1527
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 9: I'm not a buyer of the Bills. I don't think

1528
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 9: that roster is overly talented. And if you were looking

1529
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 9: at try and make a case for a team a

1530
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 9: little bit further down the board. I think the Houston Texans,

1531
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 9: if they can go on the road to Indian and

1532
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 9: pull off the upset this weekend, There's not a team

1533
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 9: in the AFC that wants to see that defense coming

1534
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 9: into their building, especially if the offense trends in the

1535
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 9: right direction.

1536
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 10: One CJ.

1537
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 9: Stroud returns under center after three week absence due with concussions.

1538
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: You want to know the craziest thing about the whole thing,

1539
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: the who do you think is the favorite in the

1540
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 2: AFC right now? And I'll give you a hint. They're

1541
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: not even in the playoffs right now.

1542
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, I'm not sure where you're going,

1543
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 9: but if you're going to try and tell me I

1544
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 9: should watch out for the Dolphins, I'm done.

1545
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs were is the favorite in the AFC,

1546
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: and they're not even in the playoffs right now.

1547
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean they're all bunched off.

1548
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 9: I mean, like I said, there's five teams right now, separated,

1549
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 9: you know, depending on which book you're choosing, a look

1550
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 9: at by anywhere from fifteen to twenty cents. So odds

1551
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 9: makers have kind of thrown their hands up in the air.

1552
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 9: They're going to allow the betting public to try and

1553
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 9: figure it out and look. The inside track to the

1554
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 9: number one seed remains as wide open as any. But

1555
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 9: even if New England takes home that number one spot,

1556
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 9: I don't think a team like the Ravens and the

1557
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,520
Speaker 9: chiefs of the Broncos would be intimidated going into Foxborough

1558
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 9: and taking on a sophomore quarterback making his playoff debut.

1559
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: Hi, buddy, have a great week, Todd.

1560
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: Appreciate you man, and always I look forward to seeing

1561
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: the news, notes and numbers you got for us on

1562
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: Twitter at Todd Ferm and talk to you next Saturday.

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01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: Happy Thank you guys.

1564
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 9: Always a pleasure to Arnie. I'll make sure on them

1565
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 9: at the Terrytorial Cup in tenp next Friday. I don't

1566
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 9: drop your name so I don't can get escorted out

1567
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 9: during the game.

1568
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 10: Between Arizona Arizona State, we.

1569
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: Should have two extra wins. Many they took those b

1570
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: YU and the Houston went away from us. We should

1571
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: be ten and one right now.

1572
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 10: I mean, look, you know what, I'm just gonna leave

1573
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 10: it a down. I'm gonna go.

1574
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: By the way. Arizona State can still get in the

1575
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: Big Twelve championship game if they win that. Hurry the way,

1576
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: what can we do? What's trending?

1577
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 3: Then tell us why you're up.

1578
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you a st trending.

1579
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: What's going on?

1580
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: All right?

1581
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 8: Make him feel better? There we go, by the way.

1582
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 8: The clinching scenarios for the conference championships are pretty basic

1583
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 8: for most of the teams. Now we're still two weeks away,

1584
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 8: but those conference championship games for the major leagues are

1585
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 8: the first Saturday in December. It'll start with the Big

1586
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 8: Twelve at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium and then have the

1587
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 8: SEC title game at the Atlanta Falcons Stadium. Then two

1588
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 8: on that Saturday night early December, the ACC Championship at

1589
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 8: the Carolina Panthers Stadium, and on Fox TV, the Big

1590
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 8: Ten title game in Indianapolis. In other words, yes, Indiana

1591
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 8: hosting the Big Ten Championship game. But as to who's

1592
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 8: going to be in, say the Big twelve title game,

1593
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 8: Texas Tech gets in with a win, BYU gets in

1594
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 8: with a win, and either of them get in with

1595
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 8: an Arizona State loss. As for the Big Ten Championship,

1596
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 8: Indiana's in with a win, Ohio State's in with a win.

1597
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 8: In fact on Fox TV this Saturday, number one, Ohio

1598
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 8: State at number fifteen, Michigan. As far as who will

1599
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 8: be in the ACC Championship, SMU's in with a win,

1600
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 8: Virginia is in with a win. Pitt would need help,

1601
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 8: Miami would need a lot of help, although I expect

1602
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 8: to see Miami still as the highest ranked ACC team

1603
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 8: come Tuesday nights rankings, which will make it interesting. As

1604
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 8: far as the SEC Championship game, Alabama's in with a win,

1605
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 8: Texas A and M's in with a win. What about

1606
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 8: my Sooners Georgia would be in either a loss from

1607
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 8: Alabama or A and M. Yeah, because in the SEC,

1608
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 8: I mean, not only is it bunched up at the top,

1609
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 8: but in the SEC, Oklahoma's one of the teams with

1610
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 8: two losses like Texas Vanderbilt for that batter. You know,

1611
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 8: Vanderbilt's playing Tennessee and they're both in the top twenty

1612
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 8: this weekend. I don't believe that's ever happened before. Meanwhile,

1613
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 8: we've got NFL to talk about, because tonight the Rams

1614
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 8: became the team that's alone in first in the NFC

1615
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 8: standings nine and two. They've won six in a row.

1616
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 8: The defense only allows seventeen points a game, best in

1617
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 8: the NFC, and then they gave up only seven tonight,

1618
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 8: thirty four to seven, the final over Tampa Bay, which

1619
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 8: not only falls to six and five, but Bucks quarterback

1620
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield, down thirty one to seven at the half,

1621
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 8: did not return due to a sprain left shoulder. He

1622
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 8: had one touchdown two interceptions. Tampa Bay running back Bucky

1623
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,839
Speaker 8: Irving still out with shoulder and foot injuries. Matthew Stafford

1624
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 8: had three touchdown passes in the first half, two to

1625
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 8: DeVante Adams pukin Takua seven catches ninety seven yards. It

1626
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 8: was looking like Philadelphia was on the way to nine

1627
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 8: and two this year. They were up twenty one nothing

1628
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 8: at Dallas late first half. Jalen Hurts three total touchdowns

1629
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 8: and the Cowboys came back to win twenty four to

1630
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 8: twenty one on a field goal on the final play,

1631
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 8: a forty two yarder by Brandon Aubrey, who had missed

1632
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 8: a fifty one yarder in the third quarter. Philadelphia missed

1633
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 8: from fifty six yards out. Today, Saquon Barkley finished with

1634
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 8: ten carries twenty two yards rushing one fumble. He did

1635
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 8: have seven catches fifty two yards. Jacksonville won in overtime

1636
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 8: at Arizona on a fifty two yard field goal. The

1637
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 8: Cards then failed to score on their possession. Kansas City

1638
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 8: was trailing at home twenty to nine to the Colts

1639
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 8: with nine minutes left in the fourth quarter. Chiefs beat

1640
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 8: him in ot twenty three to twenty. Detroit in overtime

1641
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 8: beat the Giants thirty four to twenty seven. Giants have

1642
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 8: lost six in a row. Jamier Gibbs on fifteen carries,

1643
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 8: had two hundred nineteen yards and three total touchdowns. That's

1644
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 8: like a Derrick Henry High School game. The Cleveland Browns

1645
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 8: won at Las Vegas twenty four to ten in a

1646
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 8: matchup of two to eight teams. Gino Smith was sacked

1647
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 8: ten times three by Miles Garrett. In fact, I saw

1648
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 8: a stat Miles Garrett's up to eighteen sacks this season.

1649
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 8: The only guy who's had more at this point of

1650
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 8: a season was Hall of Famer Reggie White, who had

1651
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:09,879
Speaker 8: nineteen at this point.

1652
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 4: Of the ease.

1653
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 8: Now, granted, an individual sack has only been an official

1654
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 8: stat since nineteen eighty two, so Deacon Jones is never

1655
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 8: in these kind of stats, but still very impressive, especially

1656
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 8: the last month, and also just in the NFL in general,

1657
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 8: what I just mentioned, we not only had three overtime games,

1658
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 8: three comeback overtime wins with Dallas, Detroit, and Kansas City.

1659
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 8: So how many games have we had in the NFL

1660
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 8: this year where the winning score comes in the last

1661
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,839
Speaker 8: two minutes or overtime. The answer is forty seven different games,

1662
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 8: the most through Week twelve in the history of the NFL.

1663
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: That's great.

1664
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 8: Atlanta and Green Bay each one, Seattle and Chicago with wins.

1665
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 8: Baltimore won its fifth straight New England won its ninth

1666
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 8: straight game. Cal fired football coach Justin Wilcox after nine

1667
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 8: years there and never finishing above five hundred in conference

1668
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 8: play whatever conference. He went forty eight and fifty five overall,

1669
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 8: including a loss at rival Stanford last night. Will Cox

1670
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 8: is still owed over ten million dollars. But I guess

1671
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 8: with the payoff UCLA has to give him, they can

1672
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 8: just send it straight to the coach. Ron Rivera is

1673
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 8: Cal's football general manager. By the way, assistant Nick Rolovich,

1674
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 8: now the interim coach at California and Florida State, says

1675
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 8: coach Mike Norvel will return next season. The Seminoles record

1676
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 8: is five and six in the last two years, they're

1677
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 8: three and thirteen in the ACC Norvell would have been

1678
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 8: owed over fifty million dollars to pay him the money,

1679
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 8: that's why. And they would still owe his assistance a lot.

1680
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't want to give them money.

1681
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 8: It just makes a good business too. I mean, geez,

1682
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 8: didn't didn't they play well against Alabama? I might missing

1683
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 8: something here From the beginning of the season, how things

1684
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 8: change back to you.

1685
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, you had we mentioned will Cox.

1686
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: So justin Willcox get gets fired at cow Nick Rolovich

1687
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: replaces him. Was fired at Why do you remember why

1688
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: he was fired.

1689
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 3: Because he wouldn't take the COVID.

1690
01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, the COVID thing.

1691
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: And so now he gets hired at Cal, which the

1692
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: university might be a little bit left of Hawaii, but

1693
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: there you go. Just Nick Rolovich, who was a candidate

1694
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: for about every job until that twenty Yeah, pumped up

1695
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: the name.

1696
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 3: Then he would not take the vaccine.

1697
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 8: And by the way, cal As a cousin of the

1698
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 8: UC school University of California in Berkeley. UCLA is paying

1699
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 8: off cal because they left the PAC twelve. That's right,

1700
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 8: put them in dire straights. There were people on the

1701
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 8: UCLA radio broadcast last night going at length back and

1702
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 8: forth at the end of the game of whether that

1703
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 8: was UCLA's last game at the Rose Bowl ever so far.

1704
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: I think it'd be cool.

1705
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 8: It became public that UCLA's investigating playing at the Ram

1706
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 8: Stadium where the pro game was tonight.

1707
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 1: Interesting, there is a long.

1708
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 8: Term contract with Pasadena.

1709
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: Just for the record, Yeah, they'd have to pay to

1710
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: get out of that too. So what'd you have that

1711
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: you needed to get into Arnie before we break run

1712
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: a little? It was just real quick.

1713
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was real quick because we were talking about college.

1714
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 2: You know, when Arizona has a great year, I hate

1715
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: when we have to play Boloney teams in good Bowl games,

1716
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: which is what's going to happen this year, SMU or

1717
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 2: garbage teams like that.

1718
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: That's where you went to the playoffs last year.

1719
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: I hate playing no name Boloney teams like SMU. I

1720
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 2: really think we should be rewarded. I hate playing garbage

1721
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 2: teams like that.

1722
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Right, that's Arnie Spanier on Chris Plank when we come

1723
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: back that This segment is next on Fox Sports Radio.

1724
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: All right with Arnie and Plank here on Fox Sports Radio.

1725
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: Glad you're hanging with us as we recap week twelve

1726
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: of the NFL. A little bit more on college football

1727
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: coming up too, but it's time four.

1728
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 3: That is segment. Steve Desager's in the house.

1729
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 1: What you got, Steve, you.

1730
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 8: Mentioned college football. Of course, we'll get the new Playoff

1731
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 8: Committee rankings Tuesday, but Oregon is up to number five

1732
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 8: in the new polls. Top four stayed the same, both

1733
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 8: poles led by Ohio State, which is at Michigan on

1734
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 8: Fox this Saturday. The highest ranked team in the polls

1735
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 8: in the ACC is Miami at number thirteen, a team

1736
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 8: that may not even be in its conference final. Georgia

1737
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 8: Tech fail to number twenty three, and among the group

1738
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 8: of five teams, James Madison is number twenty in ap

1739
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 8: North Texas twenty one, and Tulane number twenty two, one

1740
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 8: of them will get the last playoffs.

1741
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 2: But wow.

1742
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 8: Current bowl projections have BYU against USC in the Alamo Bowl.

1743
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 8: Projection also that Arizona will play in the Sun Bowl

1744
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 8: against either Clemson or wake Forest.

1745
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: There you go.

1746
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: No, come on, that's worse than ASMU. Clemson, what a

1747
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: Boloney team they are?

1748
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

1749
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 2: And Wake Forest do they play football? Come on?

1750
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: Is every team that you're going to be projected against

1751
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: the Boloney team?

1752
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 4: No?

1753
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: Come on? Is Tim Duncan on the team? Stop it stop?

1754
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 8: The Citrus Bowl projection for New Year's Eve is Michigan

1755
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 8: against Vanderbilt. And San Diego's Holiday Bowl the projection is

1756
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 8: Georgia Tech against either Washington or Arizona State. The Raider

1757
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 8: news tonight after losing it home to Cleveland and losing badly.

1758
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 8: I mean they were down twenty four to three in

1759
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 8: the fourth, twenty four to ten the final. Yet another

1760
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 8: bad game, and the Raiders fired offensive coordinator Chip Kelly

1761
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 8: in his first year. AP in the Bay Area points

1762
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 8: out that the Raiders have had fourteen head coaches in

1763
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 8: the past twenty plus years, only one excuse me two

1764
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 8: have had a winning record. Two if you count Rich Bassacia,

1765
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 8: who went seven to six. The other, Jack del Rio,

1766
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 8: was just above five hundred and In the last twenty

1767
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 8: plus years, the Raiders have had twenty seven different guys

1768
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 8: start at quarterback. One has a winning record, and that

1769
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 8: was Jason Campbell. These Raiders the past month, they've goned ten.

1770
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 8: They've gone three straight games allowing at least four sacks

1771
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 8: and rushing for under seventy five yards. Only one team

1772
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 8: since the merger has done that in four straight games,

1773
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 8: and that was Hugh Jackson's one in fifteen Cleveland Browns.

1774
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 8: This offense is putrid. It's even worse than the Jets

1775
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 8: or the Vikings. And if you've seen those offenses that

1776
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 8: should raise an eyebrow. It's those teams are getting at

1777
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 8: least two hundred eighty yards a game on average and

1778
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 8: twenty points a game. Raiders fifteen points a game this

1779
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 8: year and two hundred and sixty nine total yards per game.

1780
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 8: It's not bad on the positive side. The day that

1781
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 8: Jamir Gibbs had to win the overtime game for the

1782
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 8: Lions against the Giants, on his overtime touchdown run sixty

1783
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 8: nine yards, he was clocked at a max speed of

1784
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 8: near twenty two point two miles per hour. He now

1785
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 8: has three of the top four speeds by any ball

1786
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 8: carrier in.

1787
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: The league this season.

1788
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 8: And he did something today that only Ladanian Tomlinson has

1789
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 8: done in an NFL game where a running back has

1790
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 8: at least ten catches and two hundred yards rushing and

1791
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 8: three touchdowns. It was a monster effort.

1792
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 3: That was quite the performance.

1793
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 8: Quite the performance today on only fifteen carries two hundred

1794
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 8: and nineteen yards.

1795
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: Wow o, way, Arnie, Tony the tiger Son, Come on,

1796
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 1: Baby Clemson or maybe Wake fours.

1797
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 3: That'll be fun.

1798
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: I want a big name.

1799
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 3: When we come back to the Fox Sports Radio.

1800
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 8: Studios, they're not that happy about Arizona.

1801
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: Right.

1802
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 3: We'll get into what we learn and what we know

1803
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: and even what we think.

1804
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: After week twelve, it's already in playing Thanksgiving week Fox

1805
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. All right, final hour, the Power Hour here

1806
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Hope everyone's getting geared up for

1807
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: a big holiday week. It's gonna be a fun one.

1808
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is always one of my personal favorites.

1809
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: Some big games too, some monster games.

1810
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: Monster games in both the NFL and in college. They

1811
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys Chiefs Thursday game is going to break

1812
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: all kinds of viewing records for TV ratings fifty million

1813
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah. And then college football wise, I mean,

1814
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: you've got the Egg Bowl, which could be Lane Kiffin's

1815
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: final game as the Ole Miss head coach. Georgia Georgia

1816
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: Tech is suddenly big on the Friday after Thanksgiving. You've

1817
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: got the Lone Star Showdown that's back between A and

1818
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: M and Texas, Ohio State Michigan this weekend.

1819
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: What, of course up on the air during Arizona Arizona State.

1820
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 3: Oh are you on the air Friday night?

1821
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? So the game starts at nine Eastern. I go

1822
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: on the air at ten o'clock eastern. It's tough for

1823
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: me to concentrate.

1824
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: It's gotta suck that there's not as much at stake

1825
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: for you guys as there is for Arizona State.

1826
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 2: But no, the officials took that from us. Every year.

1827
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean every year it seems like you're blaming number

1828
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: seventy five or whatever the official was, number whatever it

1829
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: might be. All right, after a week twelve of the

1830
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: National Football leagueuse we head into a big week of

1831
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: great games at both the NFL and in college.

1832
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 3: Army span you I know this where do you want

1833
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 3: to start?

1834
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: I will I'll start where I left off with Todd,

1835
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: because I don't think you guys quite understand what I

1836
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: was trying to say. Maybe I didn't do a good

1837
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: enough job. The favorite for the AFC right now to

1838
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl is a team that's not

1839
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 2: even in the playoffs right now, and that's the Kansas

1840
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: City Chiefs. It is so wide open when I talk

1841
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: about good value for gambling wise, Like, take the Chargers.

1842
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: Who's in the playoffs right now? What do you think

1843
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: the odds are they are to win a Super Bowl

1844
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: right now?

1845
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: Chris?

1846
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 3: What do you think for the Chiefs?

1847
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: No, the Chargers? The charge Oh, for the Chargers? I'm sorry, Well,

1848
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean did you watch the Chargers the last time out?

1849
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: Well, you're getting good value, That's why I brought them up.

1850
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: Well, what are they like plus thirty three hundred or

1851
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: something like that?

1852
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 2: Forty forty to one? Oh wow, forty to one. So

1853
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: it being so wide open in the AFC, I'm thinking

1854
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 2: to myself, why not take a chance at a forty

1855
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: to one, fifty to one something like that? Maybe with

1856
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: a Jacksonville Buffalo. I wonder what I can get with

1857
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo right now. I'm looking at I'm looking at FanDuel.

1858
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I just pulled it out. And again I don't know

1859
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: what the official one. It is not legal in my state.

1860
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: It's got them at plus thirteen hundred to win the

1861
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's winning the Super Bowl for who?

1862
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: For who?

1863
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 3: For Buffalo?

1864
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: But thirteen wow?

1865
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's just now for the for the playoffs,

1866
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a much different story. I mean

1867
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: their minus seven hundred right now. But if you're looking

1868
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl, that's the number right now

1869
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. That's winning the super.

1870
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Bowl, not just value.

1871
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can bet. I don't know

1872
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: if you can bet just getting to the super Bowl.

1873
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's out there or not. But

1874
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: as far as winning it, Buffalo is plus thirteen hundred

1875
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: right now. Wow.

1876
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: I don't have that in front of you, so I

1877
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 2: don't know. That must have changed.

1878
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what do you have?

1879
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I see it now. I had the Chiefs

1880
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: was the favorite though at ten the one.

1881
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: And out of the AFC, that would be the way,

1882
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: see right, But I would counter with this, You say

1883
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: that says it's my more wide open. I say, it

1884
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: just says that it's not it's a matter of the

1885
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: Chiefs getting in and everyone else is in big trouble.

1886
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're on the outside looking

1887
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and you're still the favorite to win

1888
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: the super Bowl out of your conference, right, I mean

1889
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: that to me says there's not a lot of betting

1890
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: market faith in anyone else. And I won't pull back

1891
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: and say I'm still learning about this, right, I think

1892
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: we all are every single day. But there's also got

1893
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: to be some concern about liability if you put that

1894
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: number where you truly believe it, because I'm sure the

1895
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: books don't want to get burned by making the Chiefs

1896
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: in that area of I don't know where they should

1897
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: be right where say Houston is right now plus four

1898
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: thousand and win to super Bowl or Tampa Bay and

1899
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: plus six thousand, because they know that the Chiefs have

1900
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: done it and they're capable of it with Mahomes. So

1901
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: they probably got to keep that number lower too, just

1902
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 1: because of the potential liability too, right, Right, And you're

1903
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: right about that.

1904
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: That's why they don't want to get burned. They could

1905
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: easily get burned if the Chiefs make a run and

1906
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: everybody's betting the Chiefs are like fifteen or twenty to one.

1907
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Could you imagine how much would be

1908
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: at stake for something like that? I saw the Cowboys

1909
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 2: might not be a bad value at one hundred and

1910
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,560
Speaker 2: twenty five to one or one hundred and fifty to

1911
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: one win the Super Bowl. That's some good value there.

1912
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 3: How about this after Week twelve in the National Football League?

1913
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: I know this, There is going to be a lot

1914
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: of airtime here on Fox Sports Radio over the next

1915
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: five days. What does Cleveland play on Sunday over the

1916
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: next six days? Spin about Shador Sanders? And you know

1917
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: that there's people licking their chops on the TV side

1918
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: to be able to dive into this tomorrow because they've

1919
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: just been waiting to. And here's my thing I've learned.

1920
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: And I want you guys to listen. I know if

1921
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: you don't listen anything tonight, I want you to listen

1922
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: to this. If anyone tries to tell you that the

1923
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 1: Browns found their quarterback of the future, they did not

1924
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: watch the game yesterday. I mean, I love what he did.

1925
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: Would you give him like a CE?

1926
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: Plus?

1927
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 2: I gave him a B plus.

1928
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 1: I said, I'd be more to seize to a degree

1929
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: a C plus, which is fine. Which it's his first

1930
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: game starting as a quarterback. I hope everybody just calms down,

1931
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: because if we can just have a level head a

1932
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: response and say, the Raiders are really bad.

1933
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,440
Speaker 3: He made a lot of mistakes.

1934
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: But I worry that people are going to see the

1935
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: one fifty yard pass and be like, oh my gosh,

1936
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: he's the greatest thing ever and just lose their mike.

1937
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:18,959
Speaker 1: Don't everyone turns on dudes, the t Bows, the arch Mannings,

1938
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: the should or Sanders of the world, because we just

1939
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: can't let it be what it is. We've got to

1940
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: try to turn it into something different. And well, I'd

1941
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 1: be excited if I'm a Browns fan. There ran the

1942
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 1: football real well, Dylan Samson looked awesome today, but it

1943
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: was the Raiders, and the Raiders are in a really

1944
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: bad spot right now, and Shador probably threw about three passes.

1945
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 3: It should have been picked. So who Sanders?

1946
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: Who would get the start? If I if they said

1947
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 2: Sanders and Dylan Gabriel both one right.

1948
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Now, well, I mean, I guess you got to give

1949
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: it to should Or after that right after they won

1950
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 1: the game.

1951
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: It just don't be he looked the average at best.

1952
01:27:55,720 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: There. Yeah, he did look average. I mean again, I

1953
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: watched the whole game. Man, I don't know what they

1954
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: saw in Dylan and that they didn't see in him.

1955
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know what practices look like. And I'm

1956
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: not one of those nerds that was taking practice counts

1957
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: of percentages. But I mean, he did just win a game.

1958
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're gonna go with a hot

1959
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: hand theory, don't you go with that?

1960
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: I guess you do. But if he was hot enough,

1961
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: that's the question. Is it enough to go ahead and

1962
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: replace the quarterback? By the way, I do know who

1963
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: your quarterback for the Raiders are going to be next year. Okay,

1964
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: I don't think you're It's an improvement, but I don't

1965
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: know how much of an improvement. He used to be

1966
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: a big time improvement, but now I don't know how

1967
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 2: much of improvement he is. Okay, you want to take

1968
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,919
Speaker 2: one guess? No, Deshaun Watson.

1969
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm watching Gino Smith play this year.

1970
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 2: Would you think Shawn Watson would you take GiB or? What?

1971
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Did you see him wearing sunglasses all games?

1972
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Today. Know, maybe he has a concussion and there's light sensitivity,

1973
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: but you are you are inside, it's a dome. You

1974
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: can't see what sunglasses on, and it don't I mean again,

1975
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: and then they all did you hear the glowing report

1976
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: that they had on? I know you didn't because everyone

1977
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: wasn't watching this stupid game like I was today exactly.

1978
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 3: Oh they had And I don't know who this guy.

1979
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: This guy's got the greatest radio voice I've ever heard

1980
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: calling the game first down. I don't know who this

1981
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: guy is, but he was him and Ross Tucker on

1982
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: the callin Ross is a rock star, And at one

1983
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: point it was, Ah, there's Deshaun Watson. He's got of

1984
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: a mentor to these guys. I'm like, what he's a

1985
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: what he's a mentor to chanor Sanders and Dylan? What

1986
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: are we doing in Cleveland right now? Looking forward to

1987
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: getting back around the team. It's like, so, I don't

1988
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: know what his future is, Arnie, I don't. He wasn't

1989
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: that good when he got on the field last year, right,

1990
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 1: He wasn't very.

1991
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: Good last year, but he was He was certainly good

1992
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 2: for the stops before he came to Cleveland. That's why

1993
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: he got all that one one.

1994
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1995
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 3: I just I'm so down right now.

1996
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: You could throw Mac Jones in there, and I'm like, yeah,

1997
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: that's an improvement. So I don't even know what to believe.

1998
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: Right You could throw Tom Brady, Well, Tom Brady might

1999
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: be an improvement over a lot of quarterbacks in the league.

2000
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: You can tell me you're gonna be Carson Wentz and

2001
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 1: I think it's an improvement right now. But Deshaun Watson's

2002
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: going to be a very interesting story this offseason. You

2003
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: know what, if Derek Carr decides to come back, does

2004
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: he become an internal story this offseason? I don't think

2005
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: that's scoring that happened.

2006
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 3: Well, then he would be just as viable as Deshaun Watson.

2007
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about that. Deshaun Watson, we forget

2008
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 2: about how good he used to be.

2009
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: Well not, you know, not the same year that you're

2010
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 1: talking about when Deshaun Watson was so great, Derek Carr

2011
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: was an MVP candidate.

2012
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: I mean, we're.

2013
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Talking about Deshaun Watson and you're you're sitting here waxing

2014
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: the style you wanted to be the next quarterback of

2015
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Do you know the last time do you

2016
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: know the last time that he started a whole season,

2017
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty. He hasn't really played in five years.

2018
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: He was one and six as a starter last year.

2019
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I just again, I'm not a fan of

2020
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: him based on everything that happened off the field, But

2021
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm also not just gonna banish someone for mistakes.

2022
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 3: I think that he's got a life in the NFL. Still.

2023
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 3: You see quarterback needy teams out.

2024
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: There right now, A whole bunch, all bunch all right

2025
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: after Week twelve.

2026
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 3: I know this, maybe it should be I know this.

2027
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think the Bears are good.

2028
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: And listen again, I'm not here to reign on Jonas's

2029
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: parade or anything, but they're I can't tell if I

2030
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: should be impressed at they're eight and three or shocked

2031
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: that they're not three and eight. I mean, they had

2032
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: no business beating the Raiders, the Commanders probably shouldn't have

2033
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: beaten the Bengals in that crazy comfort behind win, had

2034
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: no business beating the Giants. That's four games right there.

2035
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's the difference between what eight and three

2036
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: and four and seven Right now? But they took care

2037
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: of business against the Steelers who were down, who were

2038
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: down their starting quarterbacks. So you don't want to get

2039
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: too carried away. But I feel like we're gonna learn

2040
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: a lot about the Bears on the road Friday against

2041
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles. This is the Black Friday game that's on Prime.

2042
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, the Eagles are down, the Bears are

2043
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 1: on a high note. They won four straight games. I

2044
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: feel like Friday is going to be a fascinating game.

2045
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 1: But Arnie, I.

2046
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 3: Think the Bears are good.

2047
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: Figure it out.

2048
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 2: You know one quick thing on that, when you say

2049
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: the Bears are playing Friday after twelve weeks, I know

2050
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: this week thirteen is probably the best week of NFL

2051
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: games ever. Only one game is pretty much meaningless, and

2052
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,839
Speaker 2: I think that was Atlanta and the Jets. Otherwise, every

2053
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 2: game will have some type of significance for a playoff run.

2054
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 2: I think the only other game maybe you wouldn't care

2055
01:32:55,680 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: for is the Dolphins and the Saints. But other than that,

2056
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 2: everybody else has a significant say in the playoff run.

2057
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: You were just gonna slide right by the Dolphins and

2058
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: Saints had some sort of playoff Every game has playoff

2059
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: relevant except the Jets and the Falcons.

2060
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 3: Well, the Falcons are still alive for the division, believe

2061
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 3: it or not.

2062
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean that whole division is still kind of alive

2063
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: right now in the in the NFC South, let me see,

2064
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: let me just double check that. Yeah, I mean there

2065
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 1: are only two games out of first right now, and

2066
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: they played both those teams still this season. So the

2067
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,919
Speaker 1: Dolphins Saints game is the only game that doesn't have playoffs.

2068
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh but you never know, right, I'm not sitting here.

2069
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to dismiss you.

2070
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 2: I think it's crazy this morning to row like I

2071
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 2: told you you didn't believe me.

2072
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, because it hasn't happened.

2073
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 2: Yet, wrote us off. We didn't right back.

2074
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 3: Gosh, after week twelve, I know this. You can't kill

2075
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 3: the Chiefs.

2076
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: You guys can keep trying to h They could be

2077
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: down double digits in the fourth quarter. That might not

2078
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: be a big deal to some of you, But when

2079
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,799
Speaker 1: you were playing as poorly as the chief swore against

2080
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: a parent Super Bowl contender on the road and you

2081
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: come back and you win, that's a big deal to

2082
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: me also, ARENI After week twelve, I know this.

2083
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys got their signature win today.

2084
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: You kind of saw signs of them maybe getting a

2085
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 1: little swagger when they just dominated the Raiders on Monday

2086
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: Night football. But this Thursday night game, I don't get

2087
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: two carried away because there's still after that five games

2088
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 1: ago in the regular season. Could that be a playoff

2089
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 1: elimination game for both those teams? I mean if the Chiefs,

2090
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys win, they're like, whoa, Okay, they're right

2091
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: in this thing. But if they lose, that's probably a

2092
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 1: third game they need to make up. The Chiefs could

2093
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,759
Speaker 1: be in a situation where if they lose, that's suddenly

2094
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 1: a two game deficit to try to make up in

2095
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: the AFC and not just one. Again, maybe being a

2096
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: little overly dramatic, but I think that game on Thursday

2097
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 1: is going to be incredible with the stakes. It could

2098
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: be well with the stakes that we know that are

2099
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: out there right now, with both teams fighting for their

2100
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 1: playoff lives.

2101
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Pittsburgh and the Texans both

2102
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 2: have tiebreakers over Kansas City if they finished with the

2103
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 2: exact record, so they have to finish with a better

2104
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: record than those two teams right now.

2105
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: All right, anything else you want to add and what

2106
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: you learned from Week twelve or even Week thirteen of

2107
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: the college game.

2108
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: Just you know what, I think there could be a

2109
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: few upsets in week thirteen, Week twelve of the college

2110
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: again Thursday, the college Week thirteen, there's Monster Monster games. Yeah,

2111
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. I can't wait. I love Thanksgiving

2112
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 2: because I mean, you got the games on Thursday, you

2113
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 2: got our Friday Saturday, and you got the rivalries. I

2114
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: love this type where you know, you got the Egg

2115
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 2: Bowl and stuff like that. I live for this type

2116
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 2: of year.

2117
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ohio State Michigan.

2118
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: With Ohio State trying to break that curse, but Michigan

2119
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: is still very much alive for a spot in the

2120
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: Big Ten title game.

2121
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 3: In the playoffs, Oklahoma can clinch against LSU.

2122
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 2: I mean you're a big favorite over that. When you

2123
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 2: know you see the one.

2124
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: Nine and a half.

2125
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 2: I so I'll put it ten I think and a

2126
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 2: half half, Yeah, ten and a half, ten.

2127
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 1: And a half. Now, I just I don't know what

2128
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 1: to expect from LSU. They're very talented, they got dudes everywhere,

2129
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: but kind of looks like they might have tapped out with.

2130
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:09,799
Speaker 2: You you see the UCLA USC line, that's crazy. Twenty

2131
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite seems like too much. I

2132
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,600
Speaker 2: know the UCLA quarterback Nico, he got hurt right in

2133
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 2: the game against Washington, so I don't I don't know

2134
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 2: what status for that game.

2135
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Niko Iamliava. They lost forty eight to fourteen to

2136
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: Washington on Saturday night with the worst fake field goal

2137
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: you've I saw that.

2138
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the I had to watch it like

2139
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 2: three times? Like am I watching this right? What the

2140
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 2: hell happened there?

2141
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: They've played They've played Indiana, Nebraska, Ohio State, and Washington

2142
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: after they'd won their three straight games and everyone was

2143
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: losing their mind. Yeah, in those games, UCLA has been

2144
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: beaten fifty six to six, twenty eight to twenty one,

2145
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 1: forty eight to ten, and then on Saturday night against Washington,

2146
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, forty eight to fourteen.

2147
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: Real quick, because you mentioned it last hour. I think

2148
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 2: things will change for them and they'll get better athletes

2149
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 2: once they get out of the Rose Bowl. And I well,

2150
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 2: no disrespect to the Rose Bowl. Once a great venue,

2151
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 2: unbelievable venue, and it's still gonna be a great venue

2152
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: for like a bowl game, but that have UCLA play there,

2153
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 2: it takes like an hour and a half to get there,

2154
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 2: so far from campus. It's done at that intimate setting

2155
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 2: like you want, with like a lot of the other

2156
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 2: campuses out there. I really wish they could have put

2157
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 2: it on campus where the track is, but they say

2158
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 2: it's too much and it's too difficult. I think once

2159
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: UCLA gets to so far, they'll be getting a lot

2160
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Speaker 2: better athletes.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Right there, you go, what we learned. Let's

2162
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 1: hit what you guys have next. Hit us up on Twitter.

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01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 1: That's Arnie. It stinkin genius one. I'm at Plank Show,

2164
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: and everyone go follow us at Fox Sports Radios. Arnie's

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01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: picks right around the corner and to Seger's update here

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01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:55,879
Speaker 1: in moments right here with Arnie.

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01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: And Plank on a Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are cooking on a Sunday night into

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Speaker 1: a holiday week Monday here on Fox Sports Radio. Jay

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Speaker 1: Glazer tweeted moments ago, but he talked to Chip Kelly quote.

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01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 1: Kelly was fired tonight by the Raiders. I'm grateful for

2172
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: the opportunity with the Raiders. Bottom line, in this league,

2173
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: you have to win. I really love those players. I'm

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01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: a huge, huge gino Smith fan. That was one of

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01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: the best parts of this experience for me, working with

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01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: Gino and those guys every day. But hey, we gotta win.

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Speaker 1: I get it. And the very first response to this

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01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: on Twitter said interpretation, I'm six million dollars richer and

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01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm leaving this shole piece out.

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01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 2: Is he gonna retire? Is there something next for Chip Kelly?

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01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: Oh, there's always I mean, he can go back to

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01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: college he wanted. Last time, he was an offensive coordinator

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01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: in college, he won a national championship with Ohio State,

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01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 1: and he decided, I man, I don't think he'll be

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01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: a head coach again. I don't think he'll be a

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01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: head coach again. But I could see him being an

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01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the college game. I mean, do you

2188
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: think you'd be a head coach again?

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01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 2: Maybe have a smaller program, you know what I mean,

2190
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 2: kind of like the way Moore took over at Yukon

2191
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 2: or something to that effect. What did you think about

2192
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 2: James Franklin signing things up with Virginia Techa.

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Speaker 1: Thank it's good higher Yeah, and the amount of money

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01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 1: that they're giving him to spend allegedly, If I'm any

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01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 1: coach that was fired, if I'm Brent Prize, who was

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01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 1: fired to be before him. I'm like, well, that's not

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01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:33,759
Speaker 1: really fair, which is also interesting because whenever, whenever James

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01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: Franklin was at his best. This is such a nerdy stuff,

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Speaker 1: I ply, But the guy who got fired, Brent Prie,

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01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: was his defensive coordinator. So I wonder if Brent Pribe

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Speaker 1: would come back to Virginia Tech be like, hey, well

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01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 1: you're paying me this buyout money, I'm going to be

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01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for your new head coach who I

2204
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 1: was a defensive coordinator with for a long time at

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01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: Penn State. I think he was there for seven He

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01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: was with James Franklin when he was at Vanderbilt from

2207
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 1: eleven to thirteen, and then was with him every year

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01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 1: at Penn State outside of the three he was the

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Speaker 1: head coach at votech So maybe story worth ketting and

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01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 1: eye on.

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01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 2: And you are on the record for saying you think

2212
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Gwayn Kiffin is gonna stay at all miss right.

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01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, I don't know.

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01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 3: I've changed my mind just like he probably has.

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01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 2: Because I was going to say, isn't that ship kind

2216
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 2: of sailed? Because when you wait this.

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01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Long, I think everything's still on the table, dude. I

2218
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: think when you wait the song.

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01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 2: It's kind of like an insult. That's like you asking

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01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 2: out a girl to the prime and she goes, let

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01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 2: me get back to next week and see if anybody

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01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: better ask me. And if no, if nobody better ask me,

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01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: then I'll go with you. It kind of get the

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01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 2: same feeling there, Chris.

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01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're still waiting, aren't you. Yeah, I mean

2226
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: you're still gonna go. She calls you back and say, hey,

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01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 1: I want to go with you. All three jobs are

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01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: offering the same money. All three jobs are allegedly offering

2229
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 1: the same amount of revenue for your roster, though some

2230
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: say maybe LSU is tipped a little bit more. It

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01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: kind of just comes down to where he to go,

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01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: and no one has a good beat on it. I

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01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 1: will say it's very weird. The announcement by the ad

2234
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: that says, well, we'll have something after the egg Bowl.

2235
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: It's like, what, yeah, that's Friday. I mean, don't you

2236
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: want to Because I don't know about you. I wonder

2237
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: how it's going to affect playoff rankings, right, because there

2238
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 1: is this wild theory that some say, if he decides

2239
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: he's going to LSU. Ole Miss would be like, all right,

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Speaker 1: well you're done. I mean, we're not gonna let you

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Speaker 1: coach in the playoffs if you're leaving to go somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: But I just I can't fathom. I can't fathom that

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01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: they would lay out, hey, we're going to talk about

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01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: this and announce it on Saturday what his future is

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01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: because to me, orn't if he was standing at Ole Miss,

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01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 1: when you just go ahead and announce it, now, would.

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01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 2: You let him coach if he was saying I'm not

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01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: coming back, would you? I didn't finish out.

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01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 1: I would just because I think they're the best team

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Speaker 1: I've seen in person this year. They're really good. They're

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01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: really Trinidad Chambliss is an absolute beast, and I know

2252
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: that they haven't done anything in a couple of weeks

2253
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 1: because they had a bye week and then they played

2254
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 1: I don't know, some FCS team, but I think they're

2255
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Speaker 1: really I think they can make the championship game. I

2256
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: think they could win it. I think they're that good.

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01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 1: So if I was Old Miss, i'd probably let them

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01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: keep coaching.

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01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 2: I didn't work out for Michigan when they let their

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01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 2: basketball coach go, right, before the NCAA tournament, and there.

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Speaker 3: They're also going back to nineteen.

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01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: That's the best I could.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying what I've used, but I'm just

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01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 3: saying a lot of things have changed since then.

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Speaker 1: All right, before the Sagers update, let me hit a

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01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 1: couple of these tweets that have found its way to

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01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 1: us at steink Genius Wannament playing show. LJ is always

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01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: here to remind you of one thing. Yeah, he called

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01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots. He hits us up with this. The best

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01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 1: record in the NFL belongs to the New England Patriots.

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01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: I told you in the preseason to watch out for

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01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: them this year, but I didn't expect this. They still

2273
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,879
Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do. However, unlike Miami,

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01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: the future is bright.

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01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about can you imagine, you know,

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01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 2: being a home playoff games? Not that the Patriots, you know,

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01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 2: or starting for home playoff games, but how about a

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01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 2: home playoff game after Tom Brady is gone? The new

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01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 2: eerr has started and they're gonna have a playoff game,

2280
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 2: home playoff game without Tom Brady?

2281
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: Could, should, will probably happen.

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01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Colin Wrights, as a Packers fan, I'm not sure what

2283
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,759
Speaker 1: to think defense is mostly solid and shows elite flashes,

2284
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,679
Speaker 1: but the offense is one dimensional and overly predictable. Team's

2285
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 1: still young, but just not seeing real growth. I'm starting

2286
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: to doubt Lafleur, especially his play calling.

2287
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 2: And how long is Jacob's out for now with the injury?

2288
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: You know, Josh has a little history with missing time

2289
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: due to injuries. I think they said, what three weeks

2290
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: and then a reevaluation? Ouch? Ouch, let's see here, what's

2291
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: I could have miss misspoke there, but he did. He

2292
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: missed the second half of the Giants game. He was

2293
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: hoping not to miss any time, but he is out.

2294
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 1: He pushed all week to play, but the Packers decided

2295
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 1: to play it cautious. There was no pregame workout, just

2296
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: a conversation. Though. They're holding out hope he can go

2297
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving. Listen, if he didn't go today, he's not

2298
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: gonna play on Thanksgiving?

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01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 3: Is he?

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01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 2: Why not? I mean, how many more games you get

2301
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 2: to miss? The only six left?

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01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's if you didn't even go through a

2303
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: pregame warm up and that's four days away.

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01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 2: Didn't they say Burrow's gonna be playing the next game.

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01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Though, allegedly, Yeah, allegedly, But I mean they could have

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01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: played him today because they had activated him on that

2307
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 1: window and they thought, oh, you know, never mind, now,

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01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: why bring him back?

2309
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 3: I mean bringing back to get hurt again.

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01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, wehy bring it back now. There's

2311
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: no reason you're not going to make their playoff r I.

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01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: Forget it anywhere, mister Nobody. It's after midnight on the

2313
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: East Coast. It's my birthday and I'm still listening.

2314
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 2: Well, happy birthday, mister anybody, birthday, mister Nobody.

2315
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,759
Speaker 1: And he adds two others here, The Raiders' offense doesn't

2316
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: get fixed unless Gino gets binched. I don't think that's

2317
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: happening because obviously Kenny Pickett sucks. And given how Florida

2318
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: State doesn't care about its fans by bringing back Mike Norvel,

2319
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm wondering why I should continue being loyal.

2320
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 2: Yeah how about the vote reasons?

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01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? How about the vote of confidence this weekend for

2322
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: Mike Norvel at Florida State. And then the team that

2323
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: Arizona just blasted Baylor, Dave Aranda, their head coach at Baylor, got.

2324
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 3: A vote of confidence too. So just very very weird.

2325
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 3: And compege.

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01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 2: Well, I saw that Florida State didn't want to pay

2327
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: him the fifty million, But you can't come out and

2328
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 2: say that rag they did, didn't they Wasn't that one

2329
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 2: of the reports that they're like, We're like, we're not

2330
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: going to pay him off that type of buddy, What

2331
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 2: are you crazy?

2332
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone wants to come out and say

2333
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: that in the college world, especially whenever you have all

2334
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: these places like A and M and Penn State.

2335
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 3: They're just like, yeah, here's fifty mil.

2336
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: Go away. But yeah, I mean, it would make a

2337
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of sense to say we don't want to spend

2338
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 1: that money. And then, finally, before the Sager's update, why

2339
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 1: hasn't the bar for rookie to thirty year players, especially

2340
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks come back down? From a media standpoint, this is

2341
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: a very good question from the missing link. Joe Burrow

2342
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: had one spectacular year his second season. Nothing since Tua

2343
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 1: hasn't been good. So in other words, I mean, are

2344
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: we gonna start calling these guys out when they stink?

2345
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 3: I feel like we do, don't you.

2346
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 2: Not?

2347
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Enough?

2348
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Like? Okay, remember remember who I gave the CJ Strout Award.

2349
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Two CJ shroud, didn't you? Wasn't that who won it? Oh? No,

2350
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels, that's right, sane.

2351
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 2: Daniel's gonna get it next year, right, but he's been

2352
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 2: hurt this year, so we'll give him a little bit

2353
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 2: of a break. Let's see if he's gonna go back

2354
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 2: to his rookie year or if he's gonna go back

2355
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 2: to the second year. Guy, I'm curious see how that's

2356
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 2: gonna play out.

2357
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: And Arnie's picks are riding around the corner. But when week?

2358
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: But first, before we do that, Steve Seger has one

2359
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: final update for us before he starts his Thanksgiving week.

2360
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: What's going on? Steve working Thanksgiving?

2361
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 2: What's going on?

2362
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 8: I am working, but not here on Thanksgiving. I will

2363
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 8: be back in studio on Friday and Saturday and Sunday

2364
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 8: and so forth.

2365
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna give you Thursday off.

2366
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that us off. I just he gave

2367
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: you Thursday off and then chose to work with who

2368
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: is it again? VJ Zanili the husky over me? Yeah,

2369
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: that's he gives you the day off and and punts

2370
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: me great. Oh no, I'll be here fro it. My

2371
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: poor daughter need a new pair of shoes can't get

2372
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: enough because Arnie chose Husky over me.

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01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 8: We'll all be watching Arizona State. You mentioned that the

2374
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 8: Packers are playing on Thanksgiving this Thursday at Detroit. They

2375
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 8: each have about the same record, and then the game

2376
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 8: after that is Chiefs at Cowboys and they each have

2377
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 8: about the same record. And then there's the Bengals at

2378
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 8: three and eight at the Ravens of the night game

2379
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 8: on Thanksgiving. The Ravens have one five in a row now,

2380
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 8: so they're over five hundred. And the Ravens at the

2381
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 8: moment are leading the division race because they haven't lost

2382
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 8: a division game and the Steelers had at the moment,

2383
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:47,640
Speaker 8: that's the tiebreaker.

2384
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 2: But by the way, the SEGA they say fifty million

2385
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 2: on the Kansas City Dallas game.

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01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 8: You know that's like Alabama Ohio State, isn't it. I

2387
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 8: mean they each get huge ratings individually and they don't

2388
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 8: play each other often. And then when it's a holiday

2389
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 8: on top of that, because I think when it was

2390
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 8: Chargers Dallas it was thirty million.

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01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 1: I mean, these are too much.

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01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: Do you can't get down?

2393
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 8: Fifty million is like, you know, a playoff conference championship.

2394
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: Typeliday too but it's a.

2395
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 8: Holiday and nobody's going anywhere. By the way, the Black

2396
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 8: Friday Game, which is streaming only unless you're in Chicago

2397
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 8: or Philadelphia. It's a battle of eight and three teams,

2398
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 8: the Bears at the Eagles this Friday. The NFL standings

2399
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 8: include at the top of the NFC the Los Angeles

2400
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 8: Rams at nine and two alone at the top. Since

2401
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 8: Philadelphia gagged the lead at Dallas today, Rams kicks straight. No,

2402
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 8: that didn't end well at Chicago, Okay, a little bit better.

2403
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 8: They at least played a great Super Bowl Rams over

2404
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 8: Tampa Bay thirty four to seven. You know, Vince Ferragamo

2405
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 8: beat Tampa Bay to go to the Super Bowl season.

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01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 8: Matthew Stafford, who's an MVP candidates, Boy, have you seen

2407
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 8: the last two months? Three touchdown passes in the first

2408
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 8: half tonight two to DeVante Adams thirty four to seven.

2409
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:07,560
Speaker 8: The final Bucks QB Baker Mayfield down thirty one to

2410
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 8: seven at the half, did not return sprain left shoulder,

2411
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 8: is what his coach says. Dallas was down to Philly

2412
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 8: twenty one nothing late in the first half and still

2413
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 8: beat the Eagles twenty four to twenty one on a

2414
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 8: field goal on the final play. Dak Prescott over three

2415
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty yards passing three total touchdowns, George Pickens

2416
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 8: nine receptions on nine targets one hundred and forty six

2417
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 8: yards and a short TD. It was the largest comeback

2418
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 8: win in Cowboys' history. Here, Philadelphia had only had four

2419
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 8: turnovers all season, had two in this game. Philly had

2420
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 8: been seven to one against NFC teams. Blew this game

2421
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 8: against the division rival, not just any NFC team. Jacksonville

2422
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 8: in overtime won at Arizona twenty seven to twenty four.

2423
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 8: Cardinals had tied it late in regulation on a short

2424
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 8: field goal. Jacksonville wonted on a fifty two yard field goal.

2425
01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 8: The Cards then failed to score on their overtime possession.

2426
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 8: Lawrence three touchdown passes, four turnovers. Tight End Brenton Strange

2427
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 8: of Jacksonville off injured reserve, had five catches ninety three yards.

2428
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,759
Speaker 8: Cleveland won at Las Vegas twenty four to ten, sacking

2429
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 8: Gino Smith ten times three by Miles Garrett Ashton Gentia

2430
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 8: the Raiders fifty yards rushing. He did have eight catches

2431
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 8: fifty eight yards and a touchdown, but the Browns had

2432
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 8: been zero to five on the road two to eight overall,

2433
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:28,799
Speaker 8: had Shador Sanders making the first start. Raiders had thirteen

2434
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 8: penalties and on third down conversions were four for seventeen.

2435
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: Thirteen penalties too.

2436
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it just doesn't end. The Raiders fired offensive coordinator

2437
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 8: Chip Kelly tonight. Atlanta ended a five game losing streak

2438
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,759
Speaker 8: with a twenty four to ten win at New Orleans.

2439
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 8: Kirk Cousins two touchdown passes, one interception the winning team

2440
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:52,719
Speaker 8: the Falcons twelve drives, thirteen first downs, nine penalties. Quarterback

2441
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 8: Michael Pennix is due to have ACL reconstruction surgery this week.

2442
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 8: Alvin Kamara of the Saints left today's game with the sprain.

2443
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 8: Taysom Hill had ten carries just seventeen yards and was

2444
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,520
Speaker 8: ozh of two passing. Tyler Schuck sacked five times two turnovers.

2445
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 8: Saints are two to nine. Overtime win for Kansas City

2446
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,679
Speaker 8: against the Colts, overtime win for Detroit against the Giants,

2447
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,759
Speaker 8: and Seattle held on thirty to twenty four at Tennessee,

2448
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 8: which has lost six in a row. One to ten

2449
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:23,879
Speaker 8: record for the Titans Jackson Smith and Jigba has already

2450
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 8: set the Seahawks franchise record for most receiving yards in

2451
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 8: a full season. He's over thirteen hundred yards receiving and

2452
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 8: they haven't even played thirteen games yet, but he broke

2453
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 8: dk Metcalf's franchise record today today in this game, eight catches,

2454
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 8: one hundred and sixty seven yards and two scores. And

2455
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 8: most amazing to me is this guy has had at

2456
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 8: least seventy five yards receiving in every game, all eleven

2457
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 8: games to start a season that had only happened twice

2458
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 8: since the nineteen sixties. Tyreek Hill had that kind of

2459
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 8: start with Miami a couple of years, and Julio jo

2460
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 8: OANs had a season in twenty eighteen when Atlanta where

2461
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 8: he had this many yards receiving At this point of

2462
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 8: the year, the guy's been sensational. Green Bay over Minnesota

2463
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 8: twenty three to six while Josh Jacobs was out with

2464
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 8: the knee injury. Emmanuel Wilson got twenty eight carries, one

2465
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 8: hundred seven yards and two scores. At Chicago, Caleb Williams

2466
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 8: three touchdown passes beating Pittsburgh thirty one twenty eight as

2467
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 8: Baltimore won its fifth straight twenty three to ten. Was

2468
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 8: the final over the Jets. Derrick Henry two short TV

2469
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 8: runs in the third quarter and New England won its

2470
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 8: ninth straight game. Twenty six twenty at Cincinnati, tight end

2471
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 8: Hunter Henry seven receptions one hundred and fifteen yards in

2472
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 8: a score. The Patriots are six and zero on the road,

2473
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 8: the only undefeated road team in the NFL. Cal fired

2474
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 8: coach Justin Wilcox after nine years there. Florida State sits

2475
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 8: coach Mike Norvel will return next season. NBA Oklahoma City

2476
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 8: seventeen and one. After beating up Portland, Shay Gilgess, Alexander

2477
01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 8: scored thirty seven points in thirty minutes. Lakers got thirty

2478
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 8: three points from Luka Doncic in a win at Utah

2479
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 8: on one oh six. Phoenix and Atlanta each one. Cleveland

2480
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,759
Speaker 8: and Toronto as well. Kevin Duranta the Rockets is reportedly

2481
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 8: out for two games due to a family matter and

2482
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 8: advancing to Major League Soccers East Final where Miami and

2483
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 8: New York City.

2484
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 3: Back to you thanks a lot, Steve.

2485
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're already looking at Tankathon, you're

2486
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:22,799
Speaker 1: already wondering where your.

2487
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 3: Team's draft slot would be.

2488
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: The current draft order looks like this the Titans would

2489
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: still have the number one pick after last year. The Giants,

2490
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: I guess have the tiebreaker. They're at number two, followed

2491
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 1: by the Saints.

2492
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 8: Kind of the reverse tiebreaker.

2493
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's the bet. I don't know the

2494
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: exact terminology, but it reverse tiebreaker works. The Saints at three, which,

2495
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 1: again with those two teams in front of you, would

2496
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 1: be the first place where maybe a quarterback would go.

2497
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 1: But the Saints at three, followed by the Jets at four,

2498
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 1: and the Raiders at five, six through ten, Browns Washington, Cincinnati, Arizona,

2499
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 1: Miami at ten, and the Rams would have the eleventh

2500
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,560
Speaker 1: pick right now of Saga because of their trade with

2501
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 1: the Falcons.

2502
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 8: Falcon's got an edgdresser we've never heard of still change pears.

2503
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,680
Speaker 2: By the way, some guy that does the job like

2504
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 2: the Saga. Does you know the SEGA works for the

2505
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 2: Chargers and does the NFL games.

2506
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: It's called a statistician spot or something.

2507
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Whatever got in trouble today for making an error

2508
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 2: and it influnds the game today. Wait eight, the NFL

2509
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 2: admitted a mistake on a roughing the kicker call and

2510
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 2: they're blaming the error on Fox for not providing a

2511
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 2: timely replay.

2512
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 8: Actually they're blaming it on the video people.

2513
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 1: How is that what you do?

2514
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 2: Isn't that what you do the sega? You do the

2515
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 2: video video.

2516
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 8: I do not work in video. This is an audio meeting. Yeah,

2517
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 8: the NFL did said they didn't have access to a

2518
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 8: close up like that, And it was a few plays

2519
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 8: later that Fox got one and showed it and said,

2520
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 8: oh my god, it should have been a penalty for reffing.

2521
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 8: He actually got a piece of the pun.

2522
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: Good stuff. By the way, the Bears have the second

2523
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: worst point differential fro an eight win team through eleven weeks.

2524
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a big point differential guy.

2525
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 8: But it's like Florida State in college with a lot

2526
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 8: of losses and outscoring, and the Bears are getting a

2527
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 8: lot of wins and getting outscored.

2528
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it just doesn't I'm sitting here, I'm looking

2529
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 1: at it right now and I can't find them. The

2530
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Bears are in first place. You can offer three point.

2531
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 8: I can offer one reason. Best in the league in

2532
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 8: turnover margin. At one point today it was a plus seventeen.

2533
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 8: Compare that to the Raiders and some others. You know,

2534
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 8: the Jets. I think it's the Jets. Yeah, they still

2535
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 8: have one takeaway the entire season. They played eleven games.

2536
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 8: It does make a difference. Turnovers unbelievable.

2537
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 1: All right, well it is that time, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,680
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2539
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,000
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2540
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:58,000
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2541
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2542
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:02,760
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2556
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 1: span your family now that you're all moved.

2557
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 2: No, they're all going up to Vermont. My son's up there.

2558
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 2: My wife is driving up there.

2559
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 1: Wait, mine, you moved to Yukon, so now you're going

2560
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 1: moved to Connecticut, so now you're going back to Vermont.

2561
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 2: We're all going up to Vermont. I'm staying down here

2562
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 2: in Connecticut and working Thursday Friday, so I'm kind of

2563
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 2: just just going so over.

2564
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 1: So how do you how does that happen? It's a

2565
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: three four hour show. How do you get to get

2566
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: all this time to yourself for that short amount of And.

2567
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 2: My wife's even Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and not coming

2568
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 2: back till Sunday. So I made her take the dog.

2569
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 2: I told her I couldn't take care of the dog

2570
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 2: because it's too much for me. So she's taking the

2571
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 2: dog with her.

2572
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: You're disgusting.

2573
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 3: What can't take care of your own?

2574
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 2: I can't take it.

2575
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 1: The one gone.

2576
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 2: The dog wants to take like a walk at four

2577
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 2: in the morning, I can't.

2578
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 3: Go take a walk with them.

2579
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: You don't have anything else? What else do you do

2580
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 1: during the day.

2581
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: I get off the air at two o'clock in the morning.

2582
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: I can't be getting up at four in the morning

2583
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 2: to take the dog for a walk.

2584
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 3: One day you get off at two in the morning.

2585
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: Well, but I gotta fill in Thursday Friday. The dog

2586
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 2: is gonna be barking. I gotta feed the thing. I

2587
01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 2: gotta keep it a lot.

2588
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a terrible dog under you?

2589
01:57:58,200 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 2: Wow?

2590
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 3: All right, stinking Gene, he's taken away. What do you

2591
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 3: have on your picks this week?

2592
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 2: We got a lot of games to get to. Let's

2593
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 2: start in the NFL Thursday game. Real quick, Oh, excuse me,

2594
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 2: Monday game. Jumping ahead of myself. Give me San Francisco

2595
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 2: minus seven against Carolina. Now let's get the Thanksgiving Day

2596
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 2: I'll take Detroit minus three against Green Bay. Give me

2597
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 2: Dallas plus the three and a half the riding high

2598
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 2: against Kansas City. And I'm gonna take Cincinnati plus the

2599
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 2: seven against Baltimore Friday. I'll take the Bears. Am I

2600
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 2: getting seven Chris against Philadelphia? That's crazy, but I'll take it. Now,

2601
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 2: let's get the college I like Mississippi State plus the

2602
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 2: seven and a half against Old Miss. I'm gonna jump

2603
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 2: on Georgia Tech plus the thirteen and half against Georgia

2604
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of points.

2605
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 1: Made me knock everything over here. I didn't realize it

2606
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 1: was that large of a spread.

2607
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 2: I like Texas plus the two and a half against

2608
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 2: A and M. You know, I'm taking my Arizona Wildcats

2609
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 2: against ASU. We should be played for the Big twelve championship. Sure,

2610
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 2: give me Ohio State lay in nine and a half

2611
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 2: against Michigan. I'm gonna take my Oklahoma Sooners lay in

2612
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:15,959
Speaker 2: ten and a half against LSU. I'm all over UCLA

2613
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 2: plus twenty and a half against USC. And give me

2614
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 2: Alabama minus five and a half against Auburn. So there

2615
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 2: you have my picks. Do them as you please, no

2616
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 2: longer strictly for entertainment purposes only, So there you go.

2617
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, Auburn's breaking out their new quarterbacks so pretty

2618
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 1: good last week. I think that's gonna be a good

2619
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:41,040
Speaker 1: game between Auburn and Alabama. It's just weird things happen

2620
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: in those rivalries, though, I will say I kind of

2621
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: thought weird things would continue to happen in the Florida

2622
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee rivalry.

2623
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 2: Right.

2624
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: Tennessee kicks snot out of them on Saturday night. But

2625
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 1: it should be a fun weekend. I think for college

2626
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 1: football fans, this is the best and worst week of

2627
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 1: the year. It's the last week of year because you

2628
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 1: get all the big games and you get all the

2629
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 1: big rivalries. It's the worst because it's the final regular

2630
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 1: season week at college football. This is it, this is it.

2631
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: You got conference championship games the next weekend. You got

2632
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,840
Speaker 1: playoffs at start, you got Army Navy that followed. But

2633
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's over. This is the final

2634
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 1: week of the college football regular.

2635
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 2: SEASONO quick, way too quick.

2636
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 1: It's the shortest season and the longest offseason. Even though

2637
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:34,120
Speaker 1: kudos about the NFL and college and becoming relevant year round. Now,

2638
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean from free agency in the NFL to the

2639
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,080
Speaker 1: trade dead well not trade deadline. What am I trying

2640
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: to say, Like the June first cuts and things of

2641
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 1: that nature, to the draft. College football is like the

2642
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 1: equal now because college football has its own free agency

2643
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 1: as well.

2644
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 3: All right, well, enjoy the time to yourself.

2645
02:00:48,840 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be rough being away from your

2646
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 1: what Stanley, your dog, because you can't the whole two

2647
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:55,840
Speaker 1: days you're working this week, you can't take them out

2648
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 1: for a walk, so enjoy it. Big Ben Mallor is

2649
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 1: coming up next. Yes, big news tonight. I'm sure everyone's

2650
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about it. Chip Kelly out as the

2651
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders offensive coordinator, Breaking news here, Las Vegas

2652
02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 1: still sucks. So for the stinking genius, I'm Chris Blank.

2653
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 1: Have a great Thanksgiving week. We'll see you next Sunday

2654
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 1: Night on Fox.