1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meats fifth 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: generation warfare. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm a commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: intelligence veteran. 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Kisoviet christ Is. 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 4: The Trump administration has released thousands of records related to 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 4: the nineteen sixty eight assassination of doctor Martin Luther King Junior, 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 4: despite his family's opposition. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 5: The two hundred and forty thousand pages have been under 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 5: a court impost sealed since nineteen seventy seven. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: And Trump today meeting with the President of the Philippines, 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: expected to talk trade, ten days out from sweeping reciprocal 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: tariffs set to hit trading partners around the world, the 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary saying the administration is not rushing trade negotiations. 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 6: Developments out of China, with the State Department confirming a 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 6: US government employee has been blocked from leave the country. 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 6: This comes as an Atlanta based managing director at Wells 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 6: Falgo has also been prevented from returning to the US 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 6: from China. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 7: The S ANDPN the Naszak both hitting record highs once 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 7: again as communication services and discretionary stocks led the games. 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 8: Federal judges sentenced former Louisville police detective Brett Henkison to 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 8: thirty three months in prison for violating Breonna Taylor's civil rights. 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 8: The sentence came down late yesterday afternoon. Federal prosecutors had 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 8: suggested one day behind bars for Hankerson, outraging Taylor's family. 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 9: The Justice Department confirming it has received National Intelligence Director 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 9: Tulca Gabbert's criminal referral related to Obama area officials manufactured 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 9: intelligence claiming Russia tried to influence the twenty sixteen election. 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: It would be President Obama. 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 10: He started it, and Biden was there with him, and 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 10: Komi was there, and Clapper, the whole group was there. 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 10: If you look at that those papers, they have a 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 10: stone called and it was President Obama. 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: This was treason. They tried to see the election. They 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: tried to obfuscate the election. 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 10: They did things that nobody's ever even imagined, even in 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 10: other countries. 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 7: The Justice Department now putting out a new statement and 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 7: saying it could meet with Gallaine Maxwell in the coming days, 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 7: saying if Gallaine Maxwell has information about anyone who has 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 7: committed crimes against victims, the FBI and the DOJ will 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 7: hear what she has to say. 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: All right, ladies, you all and welcome on board today's 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: edition of Human Events Daily here live Washington, d C. 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Today's July twenty second, twenty twenty five Anno dominie folks. 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: Huge and massive news. 47 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: You could call it the blot twist of all blot 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: twists here in DC on the Epstein files case. And 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: this has taken a turn really towards a place that 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: it should have been years ago. Gallaine mac Swell now 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: potentially will be meeting with the Department of Justice. So 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: we got the information out very early this morning that 53 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: the DOJ will be sending Todd Blanche over to meet 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: with Gallaine Maxwell. Now, where is Glaine Maxwell held Tallahassee, Florida, 55 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: The Federal Corrections Institute down there in Tallahassee. So she's 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Lady Epstein, Lady Epstein right there and saying that Todd Blanche, 57 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the Deputy Attorney General, potentially personally will be headed down there. 58 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: To Tallahassee, Florida to meet with her. 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: We've got this statement out there saying the Department of Justice, 60 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: not shot, does not shy away from uncomfortable truths nor 61 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: from the responsibility to pursue justice for wherever the facts 62 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: may lead. Now, the question, of course, obviously I think 63 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people will have, is what's in it 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: for Gallaine Maxwell to cooperate. What's very clear what her 65 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: motive is. Her motive is that she either wants time 66 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: reduced on her sentence or a full on presidential pardon. 67 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: So this is where. 68 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: The competition, the tension, if you will, comes in. The 69 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: tension comes in where with Maxwell saying, Okay, I'll sit 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: down with you. 71 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: Here's what I want in exchange. 72 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: But of course, when it comes to any of these deals, 73 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: a flea deal or in this case of cooperation agreement, 74 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: when it really comes down to. 75 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: It, you have to weigh that against a variety of things. 76 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: Number one, justice for the victim, which is something that 77 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: absolutely deserves for her to be behind bars. Then again 78 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: you also have to talk about accountability. So if she's 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: just going to say, oh, here's the Maxwell blacklist, which 80 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: is the same thing as the Epstein black list, No, sorry, 81 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: not good enough, already been out there. You need to 82 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: provide names. You need to provide receipts and name names. 83 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: So if Glen Maxwell wants anything from the Department of Justice. 84 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: There needs to be names. 85 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: There needs to be receipts and by the way, a 86 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: full on chain of pusty. What I mean by all this, 87 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's not enough to say, Okay, here's the testimony. 88 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: You know this guy did this and this guy no, no, no, no, 89 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: not good enough. We've been down that road before. Everything, 90 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: absolutely everything, that's the deal. And when I say everything, 91 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean who did what? Where did it happen? And 92 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: you also have to provide information that is able to 93 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: back up the credibility of the accusation, because there are 94 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: people who are falsely accused. President Trump was falsely accused 95 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: in Russia Gate, He's been falsely accused of illicit behavior 96 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: with Epstein time and time again. That's already been litigated. 97 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: Who else is out there? 98 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: Gallaine? 99 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 11: What do you got? 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: What do you know? Who do you have it on? 101 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: And if you do have this information and it's able 102 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: to come forward, then maybe maybe there could be a 103 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: discussion about some kind of I don't know, I really 104 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: don't know. We'd want to also hear, by the way, 105 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: from the victims as well, and you want to hear 106 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: about how the victims feel about that. Because Gallaine Maxwell 107 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: was the recruiter Gallaine Maxwell was the one who began 108 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: the process of grooming these young girls. Gallaine Maxwell was 109 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the first one they met before they ever met Jeffrey Epstein. 110 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: So what does this say about the culpability of Gallainne Maxwell? 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: Where does she belong? Folks? 112 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: This is a very serious story and this meeting between 113 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: Deputy Chory, General Blanche and Maxwell could be the start 114 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: of something absolutely massively. 115 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: Right back, Jack, So between Devens Daley really right. 116 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 10: The thing will stand in our way and our golden 117 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 10: age has just begun. 118 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: This Human Events with Jack Soviet. 119 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first 120 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: truly means. 121 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 12: Welcome to the Second American Revolution, all right, Jackick SOBACI 122 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 12: are back live Human Events Daily, Washington d C. 123 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: Here this July twenty second real Marcus voice. 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Again, Patriot dash Protect dot 151 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: com slash posts So. Okay, we're very excited now, because folks, there's. 152 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: So much going on with the economy. 153 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: There's so many good news stories that people really could 154 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: be reporting on, but they're just not for well, political purposes, 155 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: are also just because they understand how economics works. We 156 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: figured we needed to get on someone who absolutely understands 157 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: how that works. That's why we've got Joe Lavorna, the 158 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: Counselor to the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Bessont, joining us. 159 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: Now, Joe, how are you. 160 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 11: Good? 161 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 13: Jack them? 162 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thanks so much for being on. 163 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 7: So. 164 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: Secretary Bessent had. 165 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: This huge tweet up earlier this morning, and he's talking 166 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: about the cap X comeback. Now, that's capital expenditures, investments 167 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: of businesses into capital here in the United States. Talk 168 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: to me, why is the business community responding so positively 169 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: to Secretary Besson and President Trump's economic policies, Especially when 170 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I was told by the mainstream media, you know that 171 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the entire economy is going to crash and burn by 172 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: this summer. 173 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: It actually seems to be doing really well. 174 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: That's exactly right, And the financial markets, Jack show that 175 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: with equities recently reaching all time highs. The CAPEX comeback 176 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: is a function of the One Big, Dutiful Bill, which 177 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: was designed to get the capex moving as soon as 178 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 4: President Trump took office because it was set up to 179 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: be retroactive to inauguration day. So when the president was 180 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: elected last year, at the historic election with which he won, 181 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: sentiment improved, the markets got excited. Fast forward to the 182 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: new year. We're going to get this bill. It's going 183 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: to make the tax cuts permanent, it's going to have 184 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: even more pro growth supply side initiatives in it, and 185 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: by the way, it's going to be retroactive to the 186 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 4: first day the president takes office. 187 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 13: That's going to encourage. 188 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 4: Businesses to spend, to invest in their product, whether it's 189 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: a good service, whatever it may be. And what we've 190 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: seen is that chart you had just own up there 191 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: shows is, essentially excluding the pandemic, the fastest two quarter 192 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: gain going all the way back to late nineteen ninety seven. 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 4: It's really stunning and is a direct function of President 194 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 4: Trump's policies. 195 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: So when we're talking about this, that means so if 196 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: businesses are making capital expenditures, so that's capex capital expenditures. 197 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: If businesses are doing that, that's not something that businesses do. 198 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: If they think they're going into a decline, or if 199 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: they think that the economy is going into a downturn, 200 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: because this is that if you were doing that, they'd 201 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: be looking at offshore and they look at ways to 202 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: protect their they're you know, protect their assets, et cetera. 203 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: They wouldn't actually be looking to expand and grow. But 204 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: that's really what the President Trump's One big Beautiful Bill 205 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: and all of these other economic policies are actually pushing 206 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: towards this idea that the American people are suddenly going 207 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: to have more of their own wealth and that that's 208 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: actually going to be what. 209 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: Spurns this economic growth. 210 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 13: That's exactly right, Jack. 211 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 4: And the fact that you know, you've had this boom 212 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: in anticipation of the bill becoming law, which it now has, 213 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: just only strengthens and solidifies this improvement and we'll carry 214 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: it forward. So the capex continues, and that capital expenditure, spending, 215 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: the investments are all interchangeable words. Yes, as a sign 216 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: that the future is bright. It's a signment there's confidence 217 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: in President Trump's policies. What then happens after that is 218 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: you get faster productivity growth, you get stronger wages, which 219 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: means bigger take home pay for workers. 220 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 13: The good news is because. 221 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: President Trump has policies enable to get inflation lower, we've 222 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: seen a very large increase and what we call blue 223 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: collar wages. Blue collar wages are under a boom. The 224 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: only time that we've had a faster or larger six 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 4: month game to start a new administration was the first 226 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: six months of President Trump's first administration and it was 227 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 4: only a ten stronger. 228 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 13: So the basically the saying, but with this bill not 229 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 13: being in lemented. 230 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: The forward on households and living standards, it's all positive. 231 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: So it's great news, and I appreciate you being able 232 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: to have us highlight it because people should talk more 233 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: about it. It's really good news, and it should be bipartisan. 234 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: What actually is because one of the reasons, one of 235 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: the side of back effects of this as well is 236 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: that when you see those capital expensures. So this is 237 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: something and I'll try to I'll try, of course to 238 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: translate it right for normy speak. 239 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 11: For the audience. 240 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: It's it's look everyone sits theret there at their business, 241 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: at their work. Gosh, I complained about all the time, 242 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Rob Sig, you got to spend more on the lights 243 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: around here. You got to spend more on this. You 244 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: got to do more capital expenditures. That's what we need 245 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: Rob over here, Real America's voice. But the point is 246 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: is that you know, no business owner is going to 247 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: be doing that unless, by the way, Ross has a 248 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: ton of money. 249 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 14: On the lights. 250 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: To be fair, that no business owner is going to 251 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: be doing that if they're not confident, if they're not 252 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: seeing the returns that they want on their business. And 253 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: and in I would say in connection with that, relationship 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: with that, of course, is that your workforce is then 255 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: going to be more motivated, number one, because they see 256 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: these expenditures reinvesting in the business. But also if they 257 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: see if they see prices coming down, they say it's 258 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: easier to afford things, they're going to be more motivated 259 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: in general as well. 260 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 13: Right, So this is the thing. 261 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: So to continue with your example, you have a business, 262 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: let's buy a new software, let's buy new computers, because 263 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: that's going to increase our cash flow and ultimately. 264 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 13: Produce more of the things that people want. But the 265 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 13: point is, with this. 266 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: One big beautiful bill, you can now expense one hundred 267 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: percent of that. So if you spend ten thousand dollars 268 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: on upgrading your technological infrastructure. You could deduct that off 269 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: of your income. So it's a real incentive and the 270 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: one big beautiful bill. 271 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 13: There's a lot of great parts to it. 272 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: But the other thing that's really innovative and new is 273 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: now you also if you're a company you want to 274 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 4: build a data center, you now can expense that data 275 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: center one hundred percent on that plant, on that factory. 276 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 13: You never had that before. 277 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: So what it encourages American business to do is to 278 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: invest in themselves and then the people working there are 279 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: going to do better. They're going to make more money, 280 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: their paychecks are bigger. That income they'll spend with them 281 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: will create more jobs. So it becomes very additive. It 282 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: becomes very multiplicative. We saw it during Trump one point zero, 283 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: and now we're taking all those positives and with the 284 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: President's vision and the implementation by Secretary Besson, we're able 285 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: to put this forward so that the next handful hopefully 286 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: decades are really a golden era, as the President has 287 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: highlighted well. 288 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: And this is totally different, by the way, from what 289 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: we saw from the previous administration. I saw Secretary Beston's 290 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: fantastic interview regarding Jenny Yellen recently. But that was really 291 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: an administration where all of this was driven from the 292 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: top down in terms of inflation and inflating the money 293 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: supply and increasing the money Lie. Okay, you've got access 294 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: to more capital, but that doesn't actually drive the behavior, 295 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: does it. 296 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: No, that's right, I mean, and I mentioned you know, 297 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: so we've got the One Big Beautiful Bill, which is 298 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: encouraging companies to invest. 299 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 13: You've got the Genius Act. 300 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: The President has talked about making the US the crypto 301 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: capital of the world, or the US the crypto country 302 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: of the world. You need to build data centers and 303 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: toperate those data centers. 304 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: What do you need? 305 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 11: You need energy. 306 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: Energy is integral as Secretary best and is highlighted. And 307 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: you need cheap and abundant energy. So that was also 308 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: part of the One Big Beautiful Bill. Try and improve 309 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: the permitting process, making it easier for companies to conduct business. 310 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: And that is literally the genius and the foresight that 311 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: this administration has and trying to actually allow business to 312 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: produce the goods and services that people want at affordable prices. 313 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: And that clearly was not the case in the prior 314 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: four years. 315 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Right, So when you're in a situation like that, and 316 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: we used to talk about the continue to many many 317 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: times here on the program, we're to say that, okay, 318 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: this is great. The price of money has gone down 319 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: for people who have the direct access. 320 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: To those funds. 321 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: But that has an inflationary effect because what you're doing 322 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: is that increased spending at the top is driving up 323 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: prices at the bottom. 324 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 13: Yeah. 325 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: Well, this thing is with the one big beautiful bill 326 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: which will drive the blue collar boom. Now we're looking 327 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 4: at middle and lower income workers. So that's really a 328 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: secretary best in highlight. Wall Street's done great. We obviously 329 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: would like Wall Street to do well, but. 330 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 13: It's really main streets term. 331 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 4: These are people who live paycheck to paycheck, who until 332 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: President Trump's first term had seen no real wage growth really, 333 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: as I mentioned, in a decade and a half or so. 334 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: So they need to benefit from it. And you know, 335 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: on inflation, you know, we could have strong non inflationary 336 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: growth as we had under President Trump's first term. Growth 337 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: was nearly three percent, it was actually over three percent 338 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: a year before. 339 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 13: COVID, and yet inflation was deminimous. 340 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: When you have inflation quickly because the government spends way 341 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: too much, and this administration here did the worst basically 342 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: fiscal backdrop we've ever had. And of course some bed 343 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: monetizes or prints money to pay for the government's profit 344 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: gets spend it. And that's exactly what we had over 345 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: the previous four years. 346 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: And it's it's it's incredible to see, it's incredible for 347 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: all of us to look into. We want to get 348 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: into more of this, and so Joe, want to hold 349 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: you over to the next segment. Uh, this this is huge, 350 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: it's huge. I understand it's heady for you know, folks 351 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: that are just trying to figure things out out there, 352 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: but this is absolutely positive news and I want to 353 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: make sure to break it down for all of you. 354 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Jack posobac up next year, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. 355 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 11: You know that you talk about influencers. These are influencers 356 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 11: and their friends of mine. 357 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: Jack, Jack. 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 14: Bringing back manufacturing to the US. It's the full expensing 359 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 14: in the One Big Beautiful Bill, which I think is 360 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 14: one of the most important things that we did. Companies 361 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 14: can do one hundred percent expensing for equipment, one hundred 362 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 14: percent expensing for factories. If you bring your factory back 363 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 14: here I think we had big pen up demand. We 364 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 14: are in the middle of this incredible AI boom that 365 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 14: you know, I don't know whether you want to say 366 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 14: this is the third fourth fifth Industrial Revolution. So we're 367 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 14: seeing the hyperscaler spend like we never have before. And 368 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 14: I think what's really gone unheralded here is the Trump 369 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 14: administration's emphasis on deregulation. We are making it possible to 370 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 14: build things in America again. 371 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: All right, JACKI sob here we are back live Human 372 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: Events Daily, Real America's Voice. By the way, folks, there's 373 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: this there's this letter running around on X it's biral 374 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: right now about Jerome Powell. I don't think this thing 375 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: is real. I'm just going to say that right now. 376 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: I think there'd be a bigger announcement if that were 377 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: the case. But I so, well, you know, we'll look 378 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: for that, but I don't think that one's real at 379 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: this time anyway. 380 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: So we're talking though with Joela Vernia. 381 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: He is the counselor Secretary Vestent and Joe we talked 382 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: about in the last segment, how you know Bidenomics. It 383 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: was this print and spend sort of mentality. Print print 384 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: the money, spend the money, spend in government, spend in business, 385 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: just spend, spend everywhere, and and that'll that'll make the 386 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: economy better. And it's and it's it's very fake. It's 387 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: sort of juicing the economy forward. That was Bidenomics. It 388 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: was a dismal failure. It did have an inflate inflationary effect, which, 389 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of people said. 390 00:20:59,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: That it will. 391 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Trump Panomics is substantially different from that because it's about 392 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: allowing businesses to do what they do best in a 393 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: better environment for themselves and hopefully for their workers as well. 394 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: So if you could contrast trump Panomics with Bidenomics for us. 395 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, the biden approach is basically demand side 396 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: focus on weak demand, or what's known as Keynesianism, and 397 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: you basically have the government spend money to get demand up. 398 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 13: But demand has been strong. 399 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: And this is the problem with the past four years, 400 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: in large part from an economic perspective, is that we've 401 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: left with the highest deficit, highest deficit to GDP in 402 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: an environment of full employment we've ever had, with record 403 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: high debt, and that is a reflection of the fact 404 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: that the government spent way too much money to simulate 405 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: an economy that didn't need stimulus, and therefore you've got 406 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: a forty year high in inflation. Demand is not the 407 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: problem right now. With the problem that's been trying. 408 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 13: To get businesses to invest. 409 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: In their community, to invest in their businesses, and then 410 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: to hire. 411 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 13: And lift wages. 412 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: And that, as a builder, is what President Trump understands 413 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: that you need to create. Then, so it's not demand 414 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 4: driven but rather supply driven. How can we increase the 415 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: economy's potential capacity, How can we increase its ability to 416 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 4: produce more of the goods and services that people and 417 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: firms want at a low cost. That was what the 418 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: tax custom jobs back to twenty seventeen. 419 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 13: Was designed to do. 420 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 4: And that is what the one big beautiful bill that 421 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: was passed in record time is set to accomplish, which 422 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: is let business operate in a way that's productive, that's constructive. 423 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: That the shackles of government regulation and high tax rates 424 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: are going to impede that progress, because if businesses do well, 425 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: the economy does well, people do well. Their paychecks. From 426 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: a secretary, vest In has said, economic security is national security. 427 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 4: It's all connected. It is fundamentally different. The results of 428 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: the first Trump term. We're excellent. That's why people put 429 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: President Trump back in office because they love the results 430 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: that he had in terms of lifting middle and lower 431 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 4: class wages. As I mentioned earlier, real household incomes boomed, 432 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: and it's supply driven. You focus on producing things that 433 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: people want. It's not just giving money out or spending 434 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 4: money to try to create demand, because what you wind 435 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: up getting, as we saw, is inflation. 436 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: And so you're looking at this and I'll just you know, 437 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I'll zoom out a little bit here in the sense 438 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: of saying, look, you know, we're out of the weeds, 439 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: and we're talking about what does this mean to say, 440 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: you're you know, I have a family for. 441 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: And you know, we live in the. 442 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Mid Atlantic, and it's summertime, and we're looking at things 443 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: as they go and and what we're looking at and 444 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: seeing is that gas seems to you know, the gas 445 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: prices seem to be lower than they were a year ago. 446 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: This time is in general certainly seem to have stabilized 447 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: or come down in some places as well. Something by 448 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: the way I'm seeing, just anecdotally, but I've noticed that 449 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: out there is that people seem to be you tend 450 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: to see a bit more middle class Americans taking more 451 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: summer trips to Europe, and that is not something that 452 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: you're going to be seeing if more people are worried 453 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: about economics. I'm not saying that economics aren't an issue 454 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but you are starting to see 455 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: these huge signs of comeback from the Biden economy that 456 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: we can absolutely track and they are tangible metrics. So 457 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this more and more often, and I hear 458 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: people making more trips like this, and I think you're 459 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: going to see more and more people sort of getting 460 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: back to where they were, honestly kind of at pre pandemic. 461 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 13: Level for sure. 462 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: I mean, one of two of the signature issues which 463 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: President Trump has delivered on that people voted in that 464 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 4: office for is one getting the cost of living down, 465 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: which he has. 466 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 13: So you're seeingergy. 467 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: Prices full rapidly this past Memorial Day. Gas prices we're 468 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: at the lowest level in four years. You're not seeing 469 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: food prices accelerate as they were under President Biden. You're 470 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: seeing rents come down, so like people's cost of shelter, 471 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: and they're eating the ability to feed themselves and be 472 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 4: able to move from place to place. Those costs. The 473 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: every man or every person inflation rate has come down 474 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 4: quite significantly. That is really positive news. And the other issue, 475 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 4: of course, as you know, is the immigration side, and 476 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 4: now that there is going to be much less illegal immigration, 477 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: wages are not going to be set artificially low. So 478 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: if you get lower prices, which is the Trumpenomics supply 479 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: side boom like we had in the first term, combined 480 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: with the market seeking a natural rate, not an artificial 481 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: depressed wage rate, you get faster nominal wages. 482 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 13: That is real wage growth. 483 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: That is the blue collar boom we're seeing, and we 484 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: like to see that continue and perpetuate and strengthen, and 485 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: that will lift everybody. That the rising tide lifts all boats. 486 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: Wonderful story for US households. 487 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to. A rising tide lifts 488 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: all boats. 489 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: So there are ways to do this that actually benefit 490 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: the businesses, benefit the families, benefit the economics of the 491 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: average blue collar worker that's out. 492 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 13: There right now. I mean, the businesses employ the people. 493 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 4: People are employed, you know, businesses people, right, So people 494 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: all hire the other hate business, which is why, by 495 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: the way, Jack under President Trump's first term, small business 496 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: optimism was the highest registered by any president and President 497 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: Trump's first term even when you include the pandemic, which 498 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: is incredible. 499 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: Small businesses are the backbone for short Joe. 500 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: We're just about out of time, folks. 501 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: Please make sure you go and follow him and follow 502 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: Secretary Vessent live on x everywhere at the at Secretary 503 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: Besson Department's rate right back. 504 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: Jack Towick Remark's voice, Human Events Deal. Yeah, where's Jack? 505 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: Where's Jack Worthy? 506 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 12: Jack? 507 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: I want to see you. 508 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 13: Great job, Jack, Thank you? 509 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: What is Jock? 510 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 4: You do? You know? 511 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 10: We have an incredible thing. 512 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: We're always talking about. 513 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 12: The fake news and the band, but we have guys 514 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 12: and these are the guys that're. 515 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: Be getting polishes tea. 516 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pisobik, we are back Human Events Daily, Guys. 517 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: I was just sent this this news over the break 518 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: that apparently just weeks after his final show. Ozzy Osbourne, 519 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: the lead singer of Black Sabbath and a solo artist 520 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: in his own right, has died at the age of 521 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: seventy six. 522 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: This is someone who you know, I've seen him in. 523 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: Concerts Alme with Sabbath, so my brother a number of times. 524 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Working class background. We actually have a clip of the 525 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: final show we can play for you right now, and 526 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: that is Mom, I'm coming home. So don't have any 527 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: more info about that right now, other than it says 528 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: that he was so I'll just read the statement. The 529 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: family statement put out Ozzie died surrounded by love in 530 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: a statement to the Sun on Tuesday. It is with 531 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: more sadness than mere words can convey that we have 532 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: to report that I belove it. Ozzy Osbourne has passed 533 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: away this week. It was with his family and surrounded 534 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: by love. We ask everyone to respect our family privacy 535 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: at this time. Sharon, Jack, Kelly, Amy and Lewis and 536 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: just just total shock. I mean, so he did this, 537 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: He did this concert. I watched every minute of the concert, 538 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: certainly Ozzy and the Black Sabbath portions of it when 539 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: it aired that weekend. And just tremendous show that he 540 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: put on. And he was able to do so. He 541 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: was able to do so from a so he has 542 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: part had Parkinson's. He's passed away now now to seas. 543 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: He had Parkinson's and it affected his legs. So he 544 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: was actually raised up onto the stage through a through 545 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: the the stage itself or through a lower platform on 546 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: the stage raised him up on a black chair, and 547 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: so he sang on that throughout. And by the way, 548 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm just going to say something that people, all your 549 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Catholic listen to. Ozzie I said, well, first of all, 550 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne, uh, the drummer for Ozzy Osbourne actually wrote 551 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: for Black Sabbath, actually wrote all the lyrics and has 552 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: been a devout Christian and a Catholic his entire life. 553 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Is someone who always sang about morbidity from the perspective 554 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: of warning people about it. And in fact, you can 555 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: go throughout go and look throughout the years, and I'm 556 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: not going to say that Asie was some like you know, devout, 557 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: sinless person or anything like that, but they always spoke 558 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: out against Satanism. He spoke out many times about Satan 559 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: worship and in fact urged many people to not worship 560 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: Satan many times over the years. Whenever, you know, reporters 561 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: or others would bring this up. So it's it's you know, 562 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: it's really just a shock because you know, people saw 563 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: this video a couple of years ago, and you know, 564 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: obviously one of the you know, certainly the father of 565 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: heavy metal himself, along with. 566 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: Tony Iomi and you know. 567 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Just just working you know, a working class group of 568 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: guys who got together and absolutely changed the world, absolutely 569 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: changed the world in terms of their music, songs that 570 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: everybody knows. 571 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: I wonder bring Shane Cashman over here. 572 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: You guys know Shane from his work on Timcast and 573 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: his own projects, and you know, Shane. We originally were 574 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: going to talk about something else, but I you know, 575 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: I've got to get your reaction on this. You know, 576 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne dead at seventy six, just weeks after this 577 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: this whirlwind, you know. 578 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: Barewell concert. You know, what was what does this mean? 579 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: What was Ozzie's impact on you know, the culture and 580 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: the world. 581 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 11: Ozzie was very important to me. 582 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 5: My father put me onto the Beach Boys at a 583 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 5: young age, and my mother. 584 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 11: Put me onto Black Sabbath. 585 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: And I lost two very important musical figures in just 586 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 5: the recent weeks. We lost Brian Wilson and now we 587 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: lost Ozzie. Yeah, Ozzie's impact was monumental to live on forever. 588 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 5: He created a lot of the metal the sound that 589 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 5: I love today. And like what you were saying before 590 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 5: I came on, you know a lot of people recoil 591 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 5: at the darkness from Black Sabbath, but they did have 592 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 5: themes of peace and love and like the original sense, 593 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: not in the distorted sense that were today and Tony 594 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: I only wore across and there was there were these 595 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 5: Christian themes in it, but they kind of shows you 596 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: the darker aspects of life through their music. So it's 597 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 5: a very big loss in the music community. 598 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you go look at a song like 599 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: war Pigs, which is it's an anti war song. 600 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: You go look at the lyrics of that. 601 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: I think that was on their third album, second or 602 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: third album, and that it was. 603 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: No second album was their second album. 604 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: And you know, at a very they're in their twenties 605 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: when they put this out. But it reflects the same thing, 606 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: the same sentiment of anti war that you would see 607 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: from working class, blue collar guys today when they're saying, 608 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: why are we getting involved in these things that are overseas? 609 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: We're going to go kill all these people because some 610 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: rich generals and rich they talk about the politicians, you know, 611 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: and you could almost apply that to any war. And 612 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: they were growing up in Birmingham, England, you know, just 613 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: huge working class you know, industrial, dirty, grungey, gritty kind 614 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: of area and that was reflected in the music. 615 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: And I'll tell this the story of Tony Iomi. 616 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: That you know, he's famously but you know, for people 617 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: who don't know that, he was working as a teenager, 618 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: he worked in a sheet metal factory and he was 619 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: working on the metal lathe and I guess it was 620 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: his right hand becase he's actual left handed, that he 621 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: cut his fingertips off on the machine. But he was 622 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: playing guitar and he never wanted to learn or he 623 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: never wanted to quit playing guitar, and so he devised 624 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: these sort of like leather thimbles that allowed him to 625 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: continue playing guitar and attach them, and to this day 626 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: has to play guitar like this. You know, his fingertips 627 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: don't grow back, folks. But in order to continue playing, 628 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: he had to down tune the you know, the strings 629 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: on the guitar, which created this deeper, heavyer metallic sound, 630 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: which really formed the genesis of creating heavy metal. And 631 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: you listen to a story like that and you say, 632 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's lived. 633 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: Through some stuff. 634 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: These are people who lived through an austere upbringing and 635 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: overcame that, and you just don't get music of that caliber. 636 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: When you don't have people who have lived through the 637 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: same type of stories, you just don't. 638 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they lived through an area that was torn 639 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 5: up through World War Two. And like what you're saying 640 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 5: with Tony Iomi's fingers, that music taught me, amongst other 641 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: music like it, that tragedy you can use and turn 642 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 5: into something hopeful. And that's what they did. And that's 643 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 5: what he did with his injuries. That's what they did 644 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 5: surrounded by war and death. And you know, generals gathered 645 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 5: in their masses, just like which is at Black Masses, 646 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 5: which reminds me of a lot of the stuff. 647 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 11: I'm talking about with you today. 648 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 5: In terms of you know, biowarfare and the military industrial complex. 649 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can zoom out from there and you can 650 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: hear so many of the same themes, so many of 651 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: the same issues. 652 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: And I want to get into that in the next segment. 653 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: But just hold on this for a minute, because I 654 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: think for a lot of people, they want to have 655 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: this knee jerk response. They'll want to and I'm not 656 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: even looking at the comments right now, but I'm just 657 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: going to speak from the heart that this is what 658 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: this is what blue collar people listen to all right, 659 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of blue collar workers, and if you 660 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: want to talk about those, you know, when we send 661 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: guys off to war and they're forced to fight in 662 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: Iraq and they're driving around in tanks and who even 663 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: know what two hundred degrees in the middle. 664 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: Of the tank. 665 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: Guess what, they're going to pump some black Sabbath because 666 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: those guys got ordered to do that, and they got 667 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: ordered to be out there, or you know, or just 668 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: guys working, you know, working in a factory and having 669 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: to swing a hammer or work a machine and worker 670 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: shift long hours, night hours, overtime, the rest of it. 671 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: This is the type of music that appeals to blue 672 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: collar workers, whether you like it or not, by the way, 673 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: and those are the themes that when they that's real 674 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: stuff that's close to the earth, stuff Memento Maury, right, 675 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: that which is a very ancient and traditional Christian saying. 676 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: Remember that you are mortal, Remember that you will die 677 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: every ash Wednesday. Right, you are dust and from dusty 678 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: came in. From dust, you shall return. So it's it's 679 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: these ideas that that you see reflected because you're close 680 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: to the earth and there's nothing more real than than 681 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: reflecting upon your own mortality. 682 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 5: And that's what metal is so great. It's like my 683 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 5: favorite genre of abusing it. You know, because in many 684 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 5: regards the Memento Moury, it's a it's a it makes 685 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 5: you confront your mortality. 686 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 11: And it's a very raw sound. And you know, I. 687 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 5: Understand people recoil the darkness and they think it's satanic, 688 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 5: but like you said, they talk about how they're not 689 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 5: trying to be satanic and not trying to be dark. 690 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 5: I think they're trying to hold a mirror to society, 691 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: being like society is actually what's dark. You're living in 692 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 5: an illusion and pretending that you're not within this, you know, 693 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 5: surrounded by all this darkness. So I was always I 694 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 5: appreciated about Ozzy and Sabbaths. They shattered that illusion and 695 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 5: you know, and then they opened up the doorway to 696 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 5: so much music that I love today. You know, you 697 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 5: and I have talked about over the years, there's just 698 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 5: so many bands that wouldn't exist without Ozzie and that sound. 699 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 5: And I got to say, for people who want to 700 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 5: look it up, you know, Ozzy and Sabbath, early Sabbath 701 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: stuff after this, go look up on YouTube. They're like 702 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 5: nineteen seventy eight performance in Paris. 703 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 11: It's like in a bar. 704 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 5: Incredible show. I highly recommend it's one of my favorites. 705 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 5: I go back to it all the time and there's like, 706 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 5: you know, Ozzy sweeping out on the stage. 707 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 11: And it's incredible. It sounds so good. 708 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 3: All right man, it's just hitting me. 709 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm my kids are I mean, it was the 710 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: final show, just a couple of weeks ago. But you know, 711 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: never that's it. There's no more Ozzy Osbourne. No one's 712 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: ever going to see an Azzy show again. 713 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 3: That is it, folks. 714 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: We right back Shane Cashman, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily. 715 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 3: Jack is a great guy. Everybody's talking about it. 716 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 12: You'll get it from the beginning of this whole. 717 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Jack for Sooba. Here we are back live Human 718 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: Events Daily. We're talking about you know, we didn't know 719 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: we were going to be talking about this. We're talking 720 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: about the death of Ozzie Osbourne and wrong with with 721 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: Shane Cashman from Timcast. 722 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 3: But you know, Shane, there's also another. 723 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: Way we can talk about this, because we've also seen 724 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: here's an interesting day and uh, it's it's funny because 725 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: I was actually I was with Russell Brand last night 726 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: at a MAHA event in Washington. We're also seeing that 727 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: we've also already seen the death of the rock star 728 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: in a sense as well. 729 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 3: You know, the rock star in the. 730 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: West, that's the rebel, that's the rebel against society, that 731 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: the rebel against all of the things that society is 732 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: pushing for you. 733 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: And we don't have that right. 734 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: We have we have conformity, right, the conformity of cancel culture, 735 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: the conformity of postmodernism, the conformity of electronica, AI music, slop. 736 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: You know, there's no there's no fear of the rock 737 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: star anymore. There's no like in like half the guys 738 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: that are out there, even like the rage against the 739 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: machine guys are running around telling everybody get vaccinated and 740 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that. There's no there's no guy. And that's 741 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: the essence of rock music, right. Rock music is supposed 742 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: to be the middle finger to society. And I'm just 743 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: gonna say it the same way that MAGA was the 744 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: middle finger to American politics prior to them, the middle 745 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: finger to the Uniparty, the middle finger to the Republicans 746 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: and the Democrats was a third way for people to 747 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: come up and be like, we're sick of this, we're 748 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: done with this, and yeah, we're gonna go with Donald 749 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: Trump because of course he's a rock star. He might 750 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: even be the last rock star. So I mean, there's 751 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: we're really losing something in a society because we're a 752 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: society now that doesn't produce rock stars anymore. 753 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 5: I think it's going to come back, and I think 754 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 5: it's going to be a huge wrecking ball swinging the 755 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 5: other direction after years of the dissenting voice being suppressed. 756 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 11: But in twenty sixteen, when I. 757 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 5: Was telling all my punk rock friends and all you know, 758 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 5: I was in a metal band for years, I said, 759 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 5: whether you like it or not, Trump is the first 760 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 5: punk rock president. It wasn't Baba, you know, it's not 761 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 5: these people. It's Trump, and he might be a guy 762 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 5: in a suit, but he is coming from the system 763 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 5: and telling you, the people, the system is completely rigged 764 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 5: against you. The system actually hates you, and we're going 765 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 5: to blow it up, you know, metaphorically speaking. And that's 766 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 5: why I appeal to me because I grew up having 767 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 5: punk rock and metal and like what you're saying with 768 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 5: rock stars, that was the whole thing that was appealing 769 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 5: to the people is like, Okay, this person might be 770 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 5: you know, on stage saying to a giant crowd, but 771 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 5: they somehow are speaking for the people, like the blue 772 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 5: collar people. And you know, the middle class has basically 773 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 5: been wiped out, you know, in the past five or 774 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 5: six years, thanks to COVID and many other policies. But 775 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 5: the rock star was someone who said, you know, screw 776 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 5: the system. And it really hurt during lockdowns to see 777 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 5: like bridge against the machine, the offspring, all these so 778 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 5: called punk rock guys, you know, become the establishment that 779 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 5: they always raged against. But there are a few, you know, 780 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 5: we still have Johnny Rotten, Johnny Rono, the sex Pistols 781 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 5: is still out there speaking his mind. You might remember 782 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 5: a year or two ago he had the Maga hat 783 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 5: on through a lot of timber and Marsy in respect 784 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 5: for that, because that was an amazing moment and Marscy. 785 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: Marscy has been crushing it everywhere he goes, right exactly, 786 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to take anything away from these guys, 787 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: but my point is, though, is what kind of society 788 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: produces an Ozzy Osbourn. What kind of society produces a. 789 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: Marsy or Johnny Rotten or you know, obviously those are 790 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: those are British, but all the American rock stars, by 791 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: the way, you mentioned Beach Boys. We did actually get 792 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: to see them perform here in DC sans Brian Wilson 793 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: on the fourth of July, which I was surprised. I 794 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: thought they were going to pull out, but they actually 795 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: did end up coming and playing in Washington, d C. 796 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 3: At the Independence. 797 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: Day celebration on the National Wall, which was just incredible. 798 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 3: It was sad, but it was you. 799 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: It was amazing to be able to be there with 800 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: my kids and you see all again, just these great 801 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: American and just say Western I'll say Western rock stars. 802 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: That we have a society now that doesn't produce that 803 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: because we preach that you must conform, you must be 804 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: like this. Now that being said, you could also, i suppose, 805 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: argue that you're giving people something to rebel against, and 806 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: that is the essence of rock. 807 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's what I'm saying. 808 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 5: I think there will be a resurgence of massive, dissenting, 809 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 5: authentic voices in music because everyone's been so thrown into silos. 810 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 11: Whether you're not allowed to say this, you have to 811 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 11: do that. 812 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 5: You can't be this, and I think people are young 813 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 5: kids are sick of it, and of course so being 814 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 5: people who conform widespread that's always the case. But I 815 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 5: think we're going to see, you know, other Ozzie types, 816 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 5: other Marilyn Manson types. You know, that's another type of 817 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 5: black Sabbath lineage that offends people. But he's another person 818 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: who puts that mirror up to society being like, look, 819 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 5: everything's really dark, you know, and hypocritical, like with Bill 820 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 5: Clinton's condemning Marilyn Manson while you know, bombing Kosova, you know, 821 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 5: so it's like you're actually causing death, but you're blaming 822 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 5: a musician for being an artist, and you know, ragging 823 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 5: on free speech, which is completely ridiculous. So I do 824 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 5: think there's going to be some people coming back. But 825 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 5: Ozzie is like, that's a once in a lifetime situation. 826 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 5: That voice, you know, like you were saying with the 827 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 5: lyrics written by was geezer? 828 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 3: Uh that Bill? 829 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 11: I don't think it happened again. 830 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 3: I thought Bill wrote most of the lyrics. 831 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: I could be you're wrong, but but even still it uh, 832 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, he zoomed back right, and it's it is 833 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody recently that I just met, 834 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: and he's telling me about all my son plays. And 835 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: you see this with like gen z Zoomers musicians who 836 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: are so technically good and so technically better than millennials 837 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: and Gen xers in general. 838 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 3: You know. 839 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Kurt Cobain wasn't like the greatest guitarist or anything, right, 840 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: you know, his the technical proficiency of some of these 841 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: bands was not that high. But then you flip it 842 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: around and you say, wow, they're so good because they 843 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: learned on YouTube and they just like sit and practice. 844 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: But then they you also hear they don't form bands. 845 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: And he was telling me, He's like, oh, well, you know, 846 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: I was like, what does he play, you know, your kid, 847 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: and he said, oh, he plays guitar, bass, and drums 848 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: and piano. That way, you know, if he wants to 849 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: put some music together, he doesn't need anybody else because 850 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: he can just do it all himself. 851 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, but doesn't that kind of defeat 852 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 3: the whole point? 853 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 11: I agree? 854 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 5: I think we need you know, kids in rooms playing 855 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 5: their instruments together, practicing, learning that riff. 856 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 11: You know, it's invaluable. And I did that for so long. 857 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 11: I love those. 858 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 5: Experiences, but I also appreciate you know, kids learning instruments 859 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 5: and try and do it on their own. But I 860 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 5: don't think that translates on the stage in the same 861 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 5: way it does with a big loud. 862 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 11: Band like Ozzie. 863 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 5: When you're standing, you're you're band, what you are blairing 864 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 5: it's the best. 865 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because then what you are because when when you 866 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: get multiple people together, that's that's the pressure that creates 867 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: diamonds and that's why you take you know, you take 868 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: these acts, and you know Ozzie of course being the 869 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: notable exception, I would I would argue thanks to like 870 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: Randy Rhodes and Zachquad. We just saw Zachquad a couple 871 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: of weeks ago when he played with Me and Terror 872 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: and they opened from Metallica, that he, uh, you know, 873 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: most of the solo acts don't really surpass the group acts, 874 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: and that's because of that group dynamic that really refines 875 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: things and merges things together in a way to create 876 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: that magic that you never really seem to be able 877 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: to get when it's just one person. And yeah, you 878 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: can have these great you know, I don't know, like 879 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: it's like it's like the difference between a concert pianist 880 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: and like a Billy Joel or you know, Elton John, 881 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 1: someone who could just sit down and rock it out, 882 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: because that's a fundamentally different thing. But you know, last 883 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: minute to you, Shane Cashman, the Death of. 884 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 3: The rock Star. 885 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's uh. 886 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 5: I think we're watching a generation of rock stars pass 887 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 5: away that define music for so long, the music that 888 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 5: we like, new music tongue coming out today that they 889 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 5: have been inspired by. But I do have hope for 890 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 5: the future of new rock, dissenting, awesome punk. 891 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 11: Rock, and you know, we're seeing things come back. 892 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 5: Like Oasis, not that there's so much punk rock, but 893 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 5: Liam Gallagher's last living rock stars who still says what's 894 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 5: on his mind, and I always appreciate that. So just 895 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 5: hopefully the new generation of kids will come back and 896 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 5: rock unafraid and brave. 897 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: And that's what it's all about, right, you know, kids 898 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: forming rock bands together again. So there's there's been on 899 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: this whole sort of like nostalgic kick of you know, 900 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: is Trump going to return us to. 901 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 3: The way things were before? 902 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: And the way things were before was kids forming those 903 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: garage bands and going through. 904 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 3: It and scraping together a couple of. 905 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: Bucks for an amplifier or getting a bass or you know, 906 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, finding some excuse me, finding someone who's willing 907 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: to play bass, right, you know, and then like you know, 908 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: getting the drum Yeah, getting your drummer there, et cetera, 909 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, And it is what it is, right, and 910 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: that's I think part of the essential nucleus of what 911 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: growing up in the West has always been about. And 912 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: a great society, A great society will be a society 913 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: that produces rock stars. Use your fingers to create, not 914 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: just to scroll. So hats off to Black Sabbath, the 915 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: rock stars, to rock music in general. 916 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 3: Hey, rock will never die, Ladies and gentlemen, as always, Yeah,