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Speaker 1: Ron and Aians. You've got to be organized, and I

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Speaker 1: guess that's what I really like to be is put

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Speaker 1: you organized and functional in a shop the car Doctor

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Speaker 1: create another fault code. Oh, I don't know. Unplug the

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Speaker 1: throttle position sensor. Unplugged the cooling temp sensor? Does it

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Speaker 1: set a fault code for that? Is the computer able

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Speaker 1: to be smart enough to see a problem in another area.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 2: the phone and call in the garage.

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Speaker 1: Doors are open, but I am here to take your

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Speaker 1: call at eight five five five ninety nine hundred and

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Speaker 1: now he running ee that problems be. That problem seem

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Speaker 1: to be the rule of the day this week at

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Speaker 1: the shop. And I guess it's the cold weather, right.

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Speaker 1: The cold weather really plays havoc with vehicles in their systems.

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Speaker 1: But of aperative emissions issues, you know the dreaded P

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Speaker 1: zero four four two four five five four five six

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Speaker 1: folt code small leak, large leak, the what you as

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Speaker 1: a consumer or you as a technician.

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Speaker 3: See, you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Gas cap codes as I like to call them, because they,

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Speaker 1: you know, very rarely are unless somebody hasn't put the

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Speaker 4: And No.

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Speaker 1: Eight Hyundai came into the shop this week and long

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Speaker 1: suffering customer Matt's car was like this for the better

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Speaker 1: part of a year. Super nice guy, school teacher at

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Speaker 1: an inner city school, dealing with eighth graders. And the

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Speaker 1: poor guy, you could see he was he was shell shocked,

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Speaker 1: I think from his job. He was just so worn out,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he couldn't he just couldn't deal with

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Speaker 1: it anymore. As far as his car was concerned. He

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Speaker 1: couldn't get it fixed. And he'd been to a bunch

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Speaker 1: of places, and several repair shops were on a national chain,

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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of they offer repair and parts,

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Speaker 1: and nobody could fix this car. And it's just evapp

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Speaker 1: ev app is you know, front door, back door, the

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Speaker 1: things I always tell you guys about, Right. So I

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Speaker 1: brought it in and I had a P zero four

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Speaker 1: fifty five large leak, and I did the usual traditional

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Speaker 1: you know, smoke diagnosis. I hooked up my you know,

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Speaker 1: my speed smoke from redline detection. And I can't tell,

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Speaker 1: I can't say enough. The more I use that machine,

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Speaker 1: how well that machine makes smoke to really fill the

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Speaker 1: we smoked it and didn't find any problem. So I

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Speaker 1: knew with the vent closed in the back of the

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Speaker 1: vehicle the purge closed in the front, that I had integrity,

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Speaker 1: that my leak wasn't related to any of the metal lines,

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Speaker 1: the gas tank, the filler neck, you know, coming up

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Speaker 1: the speed smoke hooked up and I got hit in

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Speaker 1: the face the you know, a wish of smoke. So

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Speaker 1: I knew the system had integrity. My problem is elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: I think I had twenty minutes in it at that point.

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Speaker 1: The hardest part was getting to the to the location

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Speaker 1: to hook the lineup for the speach smoke because you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just Hyundai puts it in a terrible spot.

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Speaker 1: It's it's down under the intake planum on the driver's side.

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Speaker 1: nobody's ever gonna have to work on it. It's never

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Speaker 1: going to break. So I started to you know, it's

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Speaker 1: let's let's eliminate simple, let's eliminate the obvious. So I

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Speaker 1: or you know, it's interesting when you get to go

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Speaker 1: on a field trip, as I like to think of it,

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Speaker 1: and you walk into another shop and you look at

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how repair shops can be dirty. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I'm weird like that. I think a repair

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Speaker 1: when I walked into this one dealership, my feet stuck

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Speaker 1: you know, I can see what's wrong with this industry.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not picking on anybody. I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: reporting the facts. You know, when I see mechanics toolboxes,

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Speaker 1: you know, haphazardly, tools hanging out of them, nothing's organized.

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Speaker 1: Things are on the floor. You know, it's an obstacle

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Speaker 1: That's a problem. You know, a cluttered shop is a

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Speaker 1: you know, organization is the key to be effective. You've

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Speaker 1: to have, you know, some idea of what you're trying

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Speaker 1: to achieve, because you're not there to just fix cars.

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Speaker 1: You're there to ensure that people are safe and things

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Speaker 1: and it's fixed. And every day, all week long, all

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Speaker 1: we got was a text from Matt saying, my car's fixed,

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Speaker 1: the check engine lights out, the car passed inspection.

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Speaker 3: How did you do that? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I applied basic diagnostic principles, the things I've learned in class,

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Speaker 1: the thing that I continue to learn. And you know,

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Speaker 1: when I tell you, guys, I look I look for

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Speaker 1: the obvious. I look for the good. I don't always

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's system principles. A lot of

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Speaker 1: guys have said to me, Yeah, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: because it's not cost effective to smoke something. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of parts to change. You know. The

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Speaker 1: have to lower part of the gas tank down. I

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Speaker 1: wonder how effective throwing parts at something is going to

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Speaker 1: you know, but any event, just a quick tail of

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Speaker 1: you know, you can take some well and turn it

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Speaker 1: into something good. And except except coming in the back

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Speaker 1: So come on, guys, clean it up. You can do

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Speaker 1: better than that. Let's let's open the garage doors real

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Speaker 1: quick and then we'll go to break. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Scott in Wisconsin sixteen subru and see what's going on here. Scott,

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Speaker 1: tell me, you tell me your troubles. My son is.

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Speaker 5: The one that's been getting colder. My car has been

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Speaker 5: having issues with a vibration in the back, okay. And

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Speaker 5: what happens is in the morning, when I get up

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Speaker 5: and start it, it starts just fine, and as soon

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Speaker 5: as I put it into gear, there's a rattle in

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Speaker 5: the back end of the car, and it sounds like

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Speaker 5: a large metal garbage can being rattled. Okay, And after

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Speaker 5: the car warms up, it goes away.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: What sort of repairs have been done to try and

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Speaker 5: Okay? I took it to the dealer when it was

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Speaker 5: still under warranty and they said it was the baffle

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Speaker 5: in the muffler, which was replaced.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they never fixed it. They put a new

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Speaker 1: muffler on it. You know there was because there was

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Speaker 1: a bulletin that There was a bulletin that came out

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Speaker 1: about that nine sixty six sixteen that talked about they

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Speaker 1: changed the way they made those rear mufflers. Does your

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Speaker 1: car have one muffler or two in the back? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you know, did they you know, did they use

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Speaker 1: an updated muffler. As silly as that sounds.

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Speaker 5: Ah, I couldn't tell you right, you know, I'd have

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Speaker 5: to pull through my records.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would do that. I would get your hands

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Speaker 1: on super U bulletin. Oh, nine dash sixty six dash sixteen.

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Speaker 1: What happened was the back shell of the muffler wasn't

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Speaker 1: assembled properly, and there was a part super session where

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Speaker 1: they stopped making this one and they went to that

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Speaker 1: one and they put more rigidity in the muffler. Because

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Speaker 1: that sounds like that's what you've got from your description.

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Speaker 1: Your shirt's from the rear of the vehicle. It's from

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Speaker 1: the rear, okay, And it happens from the it happens

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Speaker 1: while you're sitting there without even moving the vehicle moving?

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Speaker 5: No, did they put it in here? I could rev

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Speaker 5: the car right?

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Speaker 1: But but but the vehicle sitting there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, okay, okay. You know the other thing that comes

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Speaker 1: to mind is it's an older subru It's a sixteen.

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Speaker 1: It's eight years old now, regardless of mileage? Do we

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Speaker 1: have an engine mount? Do we have hard engine mounts

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Speaker 1: in the car?

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Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, these are the things, you know. If

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Speaker 1: is it different in reverse than it is in drive?

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Speaker 5: It's the same.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you power break it, if you slightly accelerate

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Speaker 1: in drive when it's making this noise, does the noise

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Speaker 1: tend to go away?

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Speaker 5: It? Okay? What it makes? A noise really loud? When

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Speaker 5: I'm hitting about twenty or thirty miles an hour, it's

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Speaker 5: like can hit a certain frequency.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But can you power break it and duplicate the noise?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: All right? Now, you said it happens as soon as

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Speaker 1: you put it into gear. Did I misunderstand you?

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Speaker 5: No? You did it.

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Speaker 1: It's only there while it's moving. Yeah, okay, so you

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Speaker 5: It's possible, But I don't have a lift, right, I'm

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Speaker 5: It's from the rear. I took it to an independent

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Speaker 1: Okay, once you once you go back and talk to them,

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Speaker 1: It sounds like, ask them, hey, can we drive this

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Speaker 5: Sure. Could you give me the name of it? Pull

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Speaker 5: it again? That it was so the muffler recaller, which one.

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Speaker 1: Of these the bulletin number oh nine dash sixty six

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Speaker 1: DASH sixteen sixty sixty six Dash sixteen O nine dash

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Speaker 1: sixty six dest sixteen all right.

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Speaker 5: I have it. Yeah, okay, good, I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, Scott, good luck.

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Speaker 5: Let me know. I'll let you know what I come

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, absolutely be well. I'm ronning Ay in the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor here at eight five five five six zero

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Speaker 5: What's more fun than listening Ron and Andy in the

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: get over and talk to Maria and Maryland. Maria, welcome

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Speaker 4: Oh? Hi, Ron, nice to talk to you. Yes, I

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Speaker 4: have a two thousand and two Chevy and palla okay.

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Speaker 4: It has one hundred and twenty thousand miles on it

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Speaker 4: So I'll tell you what I've done, like like like,

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Speaker 4: And so anyway, so they replaced the mass airflow sensor

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Speaker 4: And then and in June of twenty June of twenty three,

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Speaker 4: still wasn't dealt with the starting issue. And they said that.

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Speaker 4: They also have said that when they've tried to start

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Speaker 1: Well, so here's with me. Yeah, here's my questions.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: My question is if they can't duplicate the problem, why

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh, I guess, I guess they do the they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but diagnostics, let me tell you something, kiddo. Diagnostics

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Speaker 1: don't if the car. If the car starts and there's

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Speaker 1: that point they're guessing I from my from my seat here.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I think that like the mass airflow sensor was

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Speaker 4: noise and it had to have it. Toad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's that was, so listen to me.

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Speaker 1: Listen to me. There's there's three reasons why an engine

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Speaker 1: related to spark or ignition. When we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about it. Let me pull over, take

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Speaker 1: this pause. Don't go anywhere, Marie. I'm ronning eighty and

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Speaker 3: Don't go away.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ronning. The car doctor. Marie is still there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: You ever go to your doctor and you complain about

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just any They don't really focus on

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Speaker 1: They kind of go through every test they've got right. Well,

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Speaker 1: When a mechanic gets into a condition where he can't

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Speaker 1: Is he doing something different? Can you replicate the problem.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this to many a customer over the years, Hey,

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Speaker 1: The backfire. A backfire occurs because spark occurs at the

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Speaker 1: Okay, you ever burn with your mouth closed? It's sort

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Speaker 4: Paper, I'm writing this down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you know I would have him. I would

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying to change it, but I'm saying to

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Speaker 1: camshaft position sensor, all right, there's, there's, there's, there's there

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Speaker 1: So what are we missing but a bad wiring harness.

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Speaker 1: Usually when a sensor starts to fail, it won't last

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Speaker 1: no longer rubs or touches and then starts, and then

434
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't touch, and then it does start. A wiring

435
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: harness makes more sense in this situation. So, but I

436
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: would be focusing on that and all the while. Wiring harness, well,

437
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: the wiring harness for the crank position sensor. Yes, all right,

438
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: all the while, all the while, while I'm doing this,

439
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: I'd have a fuel pressure gauge. I'd have a fuel

440
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: pressure gauge on this car. Yeah, okay, you know this.

441
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah I am. Yeah, I think it's a fuel thing myself.

442
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: Well, it could be. Listen, and there's no rule. It

443
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: says you don't have two problems. It's twenty two years old, right, Yeah,

444
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: you know it's twenty two years old. There's no rule.

445
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: It says you don't have two problems. But if you

446
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: ever notice, you know, you'll you'll be in the hospital

447
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: for knee surgery. And if you had that, if you're old,

448
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: if you're old enough, they put a heart monitor on you. Right,

449
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: so you're walking around doing your PT but they got

450
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: a heart monitor on you. You know why they do that.

451
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: They want to make sure there's nothing else wrong, So

452
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't It doesn't take much to put a fuel

453
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: pressure gauge on this car. And I can't tell you

454
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: how many times in fifty two years of fixing cars,

455
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm looking at problem one and all of a sudden,

456
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: I find the marginal problem too of the fuel pump

457
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: that's starting to fail, but not related to the current condition.

458
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: So you know, uh huh. I don't know why mechanics

459
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: and fuel pumps don't get along. It's like doing CrossFit

460
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: at the gym. Nobody wants to do burpies. It sends

461
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: us into panic. But that's a whole nother conversation for

462
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: another day, all right, sweetheart. So get him to look

463
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: at those things and listen. If he wants to listen

464
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: to this, to this, you know section, the radio show

465
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: once it airs will become a podcast and he can

466
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: just go out and google search Roninanian podcast if he doesn't,

467
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to punch me in the nose

468
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: for picking on him, which I'm not trying to. I'm

469
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: just trying to.

470
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: My mother went to this place for and she's passed.

471
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: Now it's her car, so I've just stayed going with them. Yeah, yeah,

472
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 4: you said you said it was it's either the fuel,

473
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: the spark, or what was the third?

474
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Well, there's there's three. There's three reasons why an engine

475
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: doesn't start. Fuel spark, fuel spark, or something mechanical. I've

476
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 1: only seen two. I've only seen two conditions where a

477
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: mechanical fault and an engine will be an intermittent and

478
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: keep it from running. All right, so not common. So

479
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: it's either fuel or spark. The only other thing that

480
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about is this vehicle has a security system.

481
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: This should have passlock. Either the key has a chip

482
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: in it, or there's a passlock sensor in the ignition

483
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: switch itself in the tumbler, and this could be a

484
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: passlock fault. But I would hope, and maybe I'm assuming,

485
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: which is a dangerous word, I would hope that he

486
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: would have at least scanned it, and if he had

487
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: a B twenty nine to sixty passlock sensor fault or

488
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: something like that, he would have attacked that because a

489
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: bad passlock sensor will cause a no start condition on

490
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: one of these. It shuts off the fuel injectors and

491
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: it will give the same condition as a bad fuel pump.

492
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know how he's running.

493
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 5: I don't know.

494
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: I didn't tell you this, but the one guy said

495
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 4: the last time I went there, they said it could

496
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 4: be like the ignition cylinder, the ignition lock, cylinder, ignition switch.

497
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's right, Maybe that's what they're talking about.

498
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 4: Problem.

499
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: Well, now, a good repair shop should be able to

500
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: solve that.

501
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: Ask him if you maybe I should find another place,

502
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: you know what. I just keep going back to them

503
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: because my mother yea, and they they they've done pretty

504
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: good so far.

505
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: But maybe they just need it, as my mother would say,

506
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: maybe they just need a nudge, you know, go back

507
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: and ask him do they think this could be? Ask

508
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: him this, Do they think this could be? The pass

509
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: lock sensor which is part of the anti theft system.

510
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: Pass lock SENSORYEP faulty?

511
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right.

512
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 4: Hony, keep that all written down and I can listen

513
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: again at four o'clock to perfect this. It reruns on

514
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 4: my station at at fourty.

515
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: Looking at the Car Doctor is really popular, so well,

516
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: we're glad to do that.

517
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: Well. I think the live show is ninety five, but

518
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: I don't get that on my radio gear. But I

519
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: get it on the internet and I get it in

520
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: my car, so I don't know. But I can listen

521
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: again at four.

522
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Wonderful, all right if you need me in order to

523
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: find well.

524
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

525
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: You're welcome.

526
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: It's great talking to you you too.

527
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: Bye bye, bye bye. I'm running any in the car Doctor.

528
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this.

529
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: Second.

530
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Running in the Car Doctor. Let's go over

531
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: to is that Orrin in Louisiana?

532
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, it is, Yes sir.

533
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: How can I help you?

534
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: Hey?

535
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 6: Ron So questions a couple of little background, and I

536
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 6: helped your doctors. I changed an intake manifold in my

537
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 6: vehicle as long as as well as the vacuum lines.

538
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 6: I go to the left and right check valves to

539
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 6: the to the vacuum pump and also the air injection

540
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 6: change of a valve right, put a ball all back

541
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 6: in car is cranking and not starting, so I checked.

542
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 6: There's no fuel pressure at the trade re valve on

543
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 6: the fuel row, and I guess my My next question

544
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 6: is are where do I go next? Do I go

545
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 6: to the fuel pump or do I go to the

546
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 6: fuel pomp des sinder unit or descending unit. I know

547
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 6: that I haven't took the voltage yet on either yet,

548
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: but I can hear the fuel pomp running when the

549
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 6: vehicles turned on.

550
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: So this was a running vehicle, correct, Yes, sir, And

551
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: you disconnected the intake manifold or you took the intake

552
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: manifold off and this isn't ever since.

553
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 6: Well, well okay, hold on think manifold. Well it wasn't

554
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 6: related with the initial issue. I was one day the

555
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: vehicle just would not start. We had old weather, but

556
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 6: it didn't start. So anyway, you know, I got it

557
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 6: towed to the house. Well, I was already working on us.

558
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 6: You know, I got to change this manifold anyway, and

559
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 6: these vacuum lines anyway, so I'm not as well us

560
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 6: do that.

561
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, okay, gotcha. So so this was it

562
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't start toe to the house. The intake had another issue.

563
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, how does the intake come into this,

564
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: because it's.

565
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, completely separate issue, completely separate issue. Okay, well, well, okay,

566
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 6: well it comes The reason I bring it up is

567
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 6: kind of, you know, trying to pick your brain, obviously,

568
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 6: but like, okay, well, could a map or a map

569
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 6: cause a no stark condition?

570
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Sure, I know, a bad cool intempt censor cocuse of

571
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: no stark condition. But let's let's let's let's let's digress

572
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: here a second, and I'm going to ask you a

573
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: weird question. You're ready, I go for it. Does the

574
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: steering wheel lock when the key is not in the

575
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: lock cylinder? No, the steering wheel does not lock.

576
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 6: Well, hold on hold. Yes, it does. The little a

577
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 6: little cylinoid little motor that locks the steering column. When

578
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 6: I put the key in that the steering column unlocks

579
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 6: and locks as it should.

580
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, If you put the key in and

581
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: you put the key in and it turns in the

582
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: ignition switch, warning lights come up on the dash right.

583
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 6: After the engine cranks, it goes to the crank stycle.

584
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 6: I think I want to say seven or eight seconds.

585
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 6: Then it shuts down. Then warning lights coup on.

586
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: All right, do you own a scan tool?

587
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 6: I do, yes, sir?

588
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: All right?

589
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: And have you pulled codes?

590
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 5: Yes?

591
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: I have?

592
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Have you gotten any? Have you gotten any?

593
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 5: Oh?

594
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 6: I've got you. I've got several.

595
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: What have you got?

596
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 5: Okay? So?

597
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 6: Uh TEZ zero sixteen seventeen camshaft position sensors. I've changed

598
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 6: those T zero three hundred through three oh six. You

599
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 6: know misfires on all cylinders P zero one seven four

600
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 6: one one conditions are yeah, their lean can both banks

601
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 6: lean anditions banks. Okay, let's see P zero six forty eight.

602
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: Now do you know do you know if these codes

603
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: were these codes there before the intake or after the intake?

604
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: The inke Okay, so let's do this. Let's clear all

605
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: the codes, write everything down, clear all the codes. What

606
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: comes back?

607
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I've got those. I've got those two if.

608
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: You want, okay, and then my, well, and then my

609
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: and then my next question is does this engine sound

610
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: normal when it cranks?

611
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: Yes?

612
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: It does, Okay, I would be focusing on. To me,

613
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: in my mind, i'd be focusing on, you know, if

614
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: I've got fuel? Do I have? Well, and you don't

615
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: have fuel? Right, it's correct, So so is it no pressure?

616
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Because it's not getting signal out of the cam sensor?

617
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Do I have an internal engine failure? Do I have

618
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: an internal engine fault?

619
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: Uh?

620
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: Right? Okay, And I'm starting to think about that. To me,

621
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: out of all those codes you've got, the cam sensors

622
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: are critical, and I would be focusing on those. Just

623
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: for giggles, I would unplug the two cam sensors. See

624
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: if the car starts huh okay, because sometimes they go

625
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: into a default. Some of the manufacturers will put the

626
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: car into a default and run it that way. Do that.

627
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: Call me back next week and no one's talking.

628
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 6: Let's talk further.

629
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: Because they're going to run out of time. All right,

630
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Let's do that I look forward to the call orn.

631
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. I'm running inning in the card doctor Hey,

632
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,600
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633
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: AutoZone AutoZone Pro. I'll be back right after this. Welcome

634
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: back Running of the Car Doctor. AutoZone Pro has brought

635
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: you the following in the shop. You know, there's nothing

636
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: harder than running a repair shop on a day to

637
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: day basis. There isn't And sometimes even the simple jobs

638
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: just get complicated. We had a twenty thirteen Volkswagon come

639
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: in the shop this week for four tires in a

640
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: wheel alignment. How hard could it be? And of course

641
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: the obligatory you're putting four tires on the car, you've

642
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: got to wiggle the front end then check and sure enough,

643
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: the passenger side lower control arm had a bad rear bushing.

644
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: It was wiped out. We had to put a lower

645
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: control arm on it. Now the problem arises and I

646
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: think this is a Volkswagen thing. I've seen this before.

647
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Is it stam steel as it forged aluminum? What's the

648
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: production date? Where did it come from? You know, there's

649
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: about four different choices because it's just they've got to

650
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: overcomplicate it. I guess for whatever reason, and that's just

651
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: a VW thing, like I said, and sure enough jumped online.

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Speaker 1: Now AutoZone Pro Online has the electronic catalog and it

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Speaker 1: let us look at pictures and we got to identify

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Speaker 1: just which control arm it was that we needed, and

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Speaker 1: we were able to order it from AutoZone. By the

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Speaker 1: time we got the tires done, the control arms showed up,

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Speaker 1: the old one was already out, the car still left

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Speaker 1: on time. All thanks to the folks over at AutoZone.

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Speaker 1: I'm ronnin Ay in the Guard Doctor, reminding each and

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Speaker 1: every one of you till the next time. Good mechanics

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Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you