WEBVTT - 5/11/26: Bibi Demands More War, Dire Economic Warnings, VA Maps Struck Down 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.599 Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.240 Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.840 and we are so excited about what that means for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:08.720 the future of this show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.760 This is the only place where you can find honest 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.280 perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.680 not exist anywhere else. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.080 So if that is something that's important to you, please 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.599 go to Breakingpoints dot com. 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We've got Trump officially rejecting 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.440 Iron's proposal, BB telling us informing us at the wars 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.600 and over, so always have to listen to what the 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.120 actual president of the United States is saying there's a 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.920 new estimate that takes into account the broader impact of 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.520 the war and says it is going to cost trillions 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:08.160 of dollars. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.559 Already, in Virginia. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.160 Some major political news those new maps that were just 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.320 passed by voters here have been struck down by the 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.759 Supreme Court. So now everyone is looking to see whether 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:19.840 Democrats are going to just lay in a chalk outline 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:21.200 of themselves like they typically do. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.120 Or try to fight that outline up. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.680 It's good, that's kind of their normal, you know, that's 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.679 their normal mode. But maybe it's a new day. We're 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.240 gonna We're going to find out. We're also going to 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.280 take a look at the hunt of virus. I know 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.200 a lot of people very concerned. How much have you 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.080 been following Haunted news, Emily. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.480 I started following it closely over the last few days. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.080 Before that, I was ignoring it. Now I'm paying attention, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:42.680 how about you. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.160 So I actually followed it very closely right when the 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.240 news broke, and then I convinced myself just not to 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:50.880 worry about it because there's too many other things to 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.040 worry about. So I'm rejoining the Haunted conversation. But apparently 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:58.440 birdwatchers were vindicated it was not contracted at the landfill, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.560 even though that seemed like a very like suspect. 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.840 Yeah, huge dub for the bird watchers. We're going to 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.840 get into it, but so far looking so good for them. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.600 Yes, we've also got some interesting comments from AOC on 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.040 Marjorie Taylor Green and her views there. Emptyg also firing 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.400 back a lot of discourse. I regret to inform you 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.959 we're gonna also have a little more Hassan Piker discourse 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.080 in that luck as well. So get excited for that 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.480 and then very excited to talk to you. Retired Colonel 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.440 Lawrence Wilkritson, formerly the chief of staff to Cole and Pale, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.320 a very important figure anti Iraq war figure during that 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.800 time period, continues to be a really prescient voice on 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.079 matters of war and peace. So we're going to talk 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.160 to him about the Iran war, and I'm interested to 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.680 get his reaction to a Mark Levin sat that Trump 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.560 had tweeted out Mark Levin telling us, you know, we 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.920 just need to arm these opposition groups because it went 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.280 so great for us in the past. Emily, he specifically 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.320 uses the example of arming the Moujah Hadeen, which is 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:53.799 pretty interesting. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:54.679 And not just that. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.080 There are more examples, so you're gonna want to stick around. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.480 He goes through the tour of all of our great 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.799 experience instans arming proxy forces. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.160 So stick around for that. You can't miss the smart levinsot. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.600 Yes, all right, let's go ahead and jump into the 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.480 latest with regard to the war. As I mentioned before, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.400 Night Yahoo was on sixty minutes and was asked specifically 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.160 whether he thought the war was over or not. Let's 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.600 go ahead and take a listen to what he had 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:20.960 to say. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.120 Is the war with Iran over? And if it isn't, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.680 who will decide when it is? 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.040 I think it accomplished a great deal, but it's not 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:33.320 over because there's still nuclear material, enriched uranium that has 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:38.200 to be taken out of Iran. There's still enrichment sites 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.160 that have to be dismantled, there are still proxies that 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.200 Iran supports. There are ballistic missiles that they still want 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.880 to produce. Now we've degraded a lot of it, but 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.520 all of that is still there and there's work to 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:52.920 be done. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.480 How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:57.680 removed from Iran? 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.160 You go in and you take it out with. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.160 What special forces from Israel, special forces in the United States. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.520 Well, I'm not going to talk about military means, but 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.440 the present what President Trump has said to me. I 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.320 want to go in there, and I think it can 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.200 be done physically. That's not the problem. If you have 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.840 an agreement and you go in and you take it out, 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:18.920 why not that's the best way. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.320 What if there isn't an agreement, can it be taken 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:22.000 out by force? 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.400 Well, you're going to ask me these questions, I'm going 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.520 to dodge them because I'm not going to talk about 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.840 our military possibilities, plans, or anything of the kind. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.680 And I'm just trying to get at how long is 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.960 it going to take to achieve that aim. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.400 I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.520 I'm going to say that's a terrifically important mission. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:43.440 Emily. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.120 We also understand that Trump and NATNYA, who had a 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.760 call yesterday. There was some suggestion that it was rather 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.880 urgent and unexpected. We didn't get a lot of details 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.760 out of what exactly was said on that call, but 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.720 Ntnaho They're saying that Trump told him he wants to 0:04:58.760 --> 0:04:59.880 go in and get that. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.720 Uranium and that the war is not over. What do 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:03.200 you make of that? 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.720 Well, he was asked by Major Garrett basically, what do 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.760 you what is the timetable for this as everyone just heard, 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.440 and Yaho says, well, I'm not going to give you 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.640 any information. I don't want to give away our military plans. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.839 And then Garrett, I think actually pretty shrewdly asked him 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.160 the next question. Well, first he asked are you going 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.640 to do it? Or can you do it? And then 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.680 net Yahuo said, oh, I'm not going to reveal anything. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.320 And then the next question was what's your timetable? And 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.160 Bibe was like, well, okay, we don't want to get 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.520 into specific so he confirmed by the next question that 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.239 hell yeah, he's planning to do it. He just didn't 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.080 want to reveal any details, which is juxtaposed with President 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.400 Trump somewhat amusing in a very tragic way, Crystal, because 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:47.280 Trump is out there talking constantly about what this could 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.520 look like and what his plans are. It's such a 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.799 strange contrast where you have the president and then Neta 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.440 Yahoo saying I don't want to reveal too much. Well, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.840 Trump is constantly talking. It's very odd to see that juxtupposed. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:01.520 Yeah. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.440 Well, Trump was constantly talking a lot of nonsense and 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.320 saying sometimes contradictory things in the same sentence. He's loved 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.680 this strategy of just calling random reporters who just reprint 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.680 the or you know, reiterate the garbage that he gives them. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.000 I don't know who you are talking about, Crystal. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.440 I don't know, actually, and I'm not just referring to 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.360 one in this particular instance. There have been a lot 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.839 of people who've gotten those calls apparently, And have you know, listen, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.159 if I got a call from the President, I would 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.040 also indicate what he said, but I also give some 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.719 context for how much stock we should put in his words. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.880 At this point, you have to look at the actions 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.320 and so the latest words we're getting from Trump are 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:42.520 that they have rejected the Iranian proposal as unacceptable. Let's 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.440 go ahead and put a three up on the screen here. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.040 This is from Trump rejecting the Iranian propose. I've just 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.839 read the response from around so called representatives. I don't 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.120 like it, totally unacceptable in all caps. Thank you for 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.920 your attention to this matter. This came after if we 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.480 could put a two up the screen. This came after 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:06.000 a different, lengthier truth social post saying that Iran has 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.400 been playing games with the United States and the rest 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.200 of the world for forty seven years. Delay delay, Delay, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.720 finally hit pay dirt when Barak Hussein Obama became president. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.880 He was not only good to them, he was great, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.200 actually going to their side, jettison ing Israel, oh my God, 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.120 I wish and all of their allies, and giving Aron 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.920 a major and very powerful new lease on life. Hundreds 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.480 of billions of dollars and one point seven billion dollars 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.840 in green cash flown into Tehran, no mention of the 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.480 fact that was actually their own money. But whatever, every 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.840 bank in DC, Virginia and Maryland empty down. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:35.600 Don't remember that? 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:36.560 Really much money? 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.520 Yes, yes, exactly, so much money that when it arrived 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.680 the Iranian thugs had no idea what to do with it. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.200 They'd never seen money like this, never will again. It 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.400 was taken off the plane in suitcases and satchels. The 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.960 Iranians couldn't believe their luck. They finally found the greatest 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.520 sucker of them all in the form of a week 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.080 and stupid American president. He was a disaster as our leader, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.480 but not as bad as sleepy Joe Biden. For forty 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.320 seven years, the Iranians have been tapping us along, keeping 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.600 us waiting, killing our people with their roadside bombs, destroying protests, 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.000 recently wiping out forty two thousand innocent, unarmed protesters. The 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.720 number is definitely not that anyway, and laughing at are 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.360 now great again country? They will not. They will be 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.880 laughing no longer President Donald J. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:16.680 Trump. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.040 And of course, you know, any deal, any theoretical deal 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:24.320 that could possibly be struck Emily, is going to result 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.040 in some sanctions relief. I think their Ranians are committed to, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.839 you know, full sanctions relief. They're also committed to reparations, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.240 although that could come in the form of being able 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:36.360 to collect this toll. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:37.600 The strait of horror moves. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.120 So in any case, you know, the money, their own 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.679 money that they receive back as part of the JCPOA 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.920 is going to pale in comparison to the deal that 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.400 would be available to Trump at this point, given the 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.600 fact that the US has flat out lost this war 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.840 to them. So you know, we're not really in a condition, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.360 in a position to be making demands, and yet we 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.160 continue to make demands and posture as if we did 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.880 not lose this wars if Ron does not have us 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.280 checkmated in some very real and significant sense. And that's 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.800 why as long as that persists, these negotiations are not 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.200 going to go anywhere. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.360 Well, or the alternative. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.000 I mean, that's where this is somewhat chilling that Trump 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:14.960 is going so hard in the paint right now against 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:16.600 the handing over of cash. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:17.840 These are in some of the deals. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.160 Obviously, it was actually a point of disagreement intensely between 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:25.480 Trump and Mark Levin, who he continues to tweet promotionally 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:30.200 about or truth promotionally about. Just last week, Lindsay Graham 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.480 and Mark Levin were really unhappy with the contours of 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.360 a plan that were released that did find exactly this 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.199 sanctions relief and I think unfrozen assets exag It's always 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.480 hard to keep track of all of these plans, but 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.520 I think that's pretty much stuck in just about I mean, 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.640 all of them that have come out so far. And 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.120 that's where it gets to the point where you wonder 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:55.880 escalation trap wise, if to avoid this type of consternation 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.240 from Levin, the embarrassment of having people make this argument 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.880 about him, Trump gets sucked into actually some type of 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:07.679 ground operation, significant ground operation that escalates the war further. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.040 To again avoid exactly what he's saying is so horrible. Now, 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.000 it could obviously go the other way at the same time, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.839 and he could just not care and think that he's 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.800 spinning everything as a win, which he's been doing already 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.640 for the past couple of months. But it is a 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.400 little bit chilling, Crystal to see him dunking so hard 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.320 on that part of the JCPOA or I'm sorry, that 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.520 part of the Biden administration because he is it indicating 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.160 that he's moving further and further away from doing it himself. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.800 Or is it just an outburst. You don't really know. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.400 No, you don't And let's put the next piece up 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:42.920 on the screen. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:43.200 Here. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:49.320 From Iranian sources to their state news outlets, they said 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.800 they just saw the reaction of the so called president 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.559 of the United States to Iran's response has no importance. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.079 No one in Iran writes proposals to please Trump. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.880 The negotiating teams should draft proposals only for the right 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.080 of the Iranian people, and when Trump is dissatisfied with them, 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.120 naturally that is better. So that is the way their 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.480 pasture I will say though, based on what we know 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.920 the Wall Street Journal and some other outlet of camera 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.400 which one had some details of what the supposed Iranian 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.560 response was, and maybe we can put Trita Parsi as 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.520 the last element in the block A nine. Maybe we 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.720 could put him up on the screen because he had 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:26.920 an analysis of what the Iranians responded to Trump with, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.600 and essentially what he's indicating is on the nuclear file 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.360 that they have compromised in some regards. They have walked 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.000 closer to what the Americans are looking for, but they 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.640 have not gone all the way. And Trump has put 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.200 some relatively maximalist demands in there that are more in 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.040 line with what the Israelis want to see than what 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.319 his original original posture had been back when we were 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.720 originally starting these negotiations along before the war. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.360 So he has. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.800 Placed his expectations in in you know, im possible position 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.520 for the Iranians to accept. But that doesn't mean they're 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.000 not willing to know, willing to negotiate on that piece 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.800 at all. I think since they in particular, it's logical, 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.760 since they've demonstrated that they have this massive deterrent capability 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.320 through their control of the strait of Horn moves in 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.840 a sense that gives them some more room to be 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.199 able to negotiate on the nuclear file. Because what's the 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.800 purpose of a nuclear weapon. It's deterrence. So if you 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.240 have this derent already established with the strait of Horn moves, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.040 then you can afford to be a little bit flexible there. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.320 But it's also a matter of their sovereignty and asserting 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.280 their rights and also reflecting the reality of the situation 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.319 that the US was not able to achieve its objectives 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.960 on the battlefield. There's no expectation the US will be 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.240 able in the future to achieve its objectives on the battlefield. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.200 So any negotiated settlement is going to in some way 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.640 have to reflect that reality. And Trump is going to 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.880 then have to go out and do his best sales 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.400 pitch job to convince people that this catastrophic loss was 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:58.760 actually in some way a win. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.480 Unless, of course, again he tries to do something even 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.240 bigger and tries to escalate militarily to avoid the humiliation 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.640 of obviously losing. I mean, he could end up, and 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.240 this is obvious, he could end up in a situation 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.360 quite clearly where the straight of Hoor moves is under 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.520 Iranian control, they're getting money from the straight of hor moves, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.080 from basically tolls. They're not bringing the United States in 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.920 on it, as he suggested at one point, that we're 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.559 basically being that we would potentially like split toll fees 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.600 in the straight of horror moves looking less and less 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.440 likely that that's what happens, and so you end up 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.319 in a situation where Trump is forced to either massively escalate. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.720 We hear people in some neo conservative borders still talking 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:44.199 about potential like tactical newts or great escalation in one 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.079 way or another, and again I. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.560 Don't think that's likely. But when you're looking at. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.640 The options for Trump on the table right now, it's 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.720 either complete capitulation in a way that he tries to 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.760 save face and spend this as a big win, or 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.960 he escalates further. And so I don't think the latter 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.400 is the likeliest outcome at this point, but I also 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.560 don't rule it out because it is so like everything 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.640 that we're seeing play out is so bad for his 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.600 ability to try to spin this as a win, which 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.959 he desperately wants to do, and he has people tripping 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:21.840 in his ear about the potential historic legacy building implications 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:22.600 of escalation. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.320 So we're in a dangerous spot, obviously. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:30.080 Absolutely the case, and especially because the Iranians are unlikely 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.960 to mend any further here in terms of negotiations, because 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.720 number one, again they are looking at this like y'all 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.480 lost and we can bear a lot more pain than 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.880 you can. And the global economy is going to continue to, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.840 you know, to totter on the brink here, and we've 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.320 got some elements will bring in the next block about 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.240 exactly what that looks like. But I know oil is 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.600 up back again this morning because of the rejection of 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.040 this deal, and they're seemingly being no end in sight here. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.240 But you know, what else do you do if you're 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.280 Trump and you're not willing to accept the humiliation that 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.480 would be required for you to accept in whatever deal 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.040 you could strike right now, You've got all kinds of people, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.240 like you said, who are going to be pushing him. Oh, 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.720 let's arm this faction, let's bomb this, let's bomb that, 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.800 let's try for the uranium. Whatever thinks he's being told. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.160 And he would rather take a gamble, I think, I mean, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.400 just thinking of his own psychology, he would rather take 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.080 a gamble than have to accept the reality that has 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.040 been revealed by this war. You know, there is one 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.280 positive thing I would say here from the Iranian side, 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.640 This from the Iranian president of a six up on 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:39.520 the screen, just defending the idea of dialogue and negotiation. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.960 So Poteshkin says, we will never bow our heads before 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.000 the enemy, and if talk of dialogue or negotiation arises, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.640 it does not mean surrender or retreat. Rather, the goal 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.600 is to uphold the rights of the Iranian nation to 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.920 defend national interests with resolute strength. So a defense there 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:59.360 of diplomacy and negotiation and talks and dialogue. That's positive 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.800 to see that from obviously an important and influential figure 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:07.240 with it in Iran. But again, the reality of where 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.400 their position is and how far they're willing to go, 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:15.000 it's still vastly different from what the American side, what 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.200 Trump and the American side are willing to offer. And 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.320 I continue to think Emily, that is also a very 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.240 dire sign. That added to the negotiating team, not that 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.080 there are in face, in person negotiations happening right now, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.920 but that officially added to the negotiating team is this 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.400 hawk from the Foundation for the defensive Democracy is very 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.320 very hawkish outlet, outfit that's been providing lots of the 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:40.240 worst misinformation apparently to this administration. So the fact that 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.280 guy got added to the negotiating team, and seemingly Janie Vance, 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:47.040 who's seen as a more reasonable figure, more desirous of 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.640 an end to this war, was apparently taken off the team. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.520 Yeah, great point. Senator Senator Secretary Rubio did. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.240 The briefing last week, I think notably as well, which 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.320 was you can read into it what you want, but 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.600 to have him do that rather than VP Vance, who 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.520 has been spearheading negotiations, I think there's probably something indeed 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:08.919 to be read into that. And I just wanted to 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:13.440 also make the point Crystal that on Trita Parsi's substack 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.879 him saying he has a line in the reces, I 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.280 don't think Americans fully appreciate what it means that Iran 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.720 is coming to the table on enrichment moratoriums, and that 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.480 Ryan and I covered last week. Some of the Democrats, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.080 by the way, not just left wing Democrats, but some 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:33.119 people who are probably considered more moderate Democrats pushing for 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.080 the Israelis to be transparent about their own nuclear capability 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.400 that is more important right now than it ever has been. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.480 To use that cliche that I think actually is fitting here, 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:48.239 because if you want to make a deal with that 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.800 actually achieves no nuclear enrichment in an Iran, or with 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.359 an Iran that has just heard the President of the 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.800 United States make threats about wiping out an entire civilization, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:02.000 and ensure that they're actually is no enrichment as part 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.520 of the deal that will satisfy American presidents, you're going 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.720 to have to be able to be honest. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.040 In order to enforce that. You have to be honest 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:10.920 about Israel. 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.600 There has to be transparency about Israel from our government 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.919 and from their government. Otherwise, how on earth do you 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.080 expect that to stick and hold without finding us back 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.280 in this situation a year from now, two years from now, 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.919 or whatever, the deal is cut. Because the Iranians don't 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:31.760 trust Israel and the United States in their nuclear capacity 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.360 in Israel at the Israeli is nuclear capacity, and they 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.879 have just been pushed into a situation where many people politically, 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.640 as Jeremy Scahole was explaining to us on the Friday Show, 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:46.720 are more more interested than ever before in obtaining quickly. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.120 Their own nuclear capacity. So that's right. 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.240 It's an important push I think actually from some Democrats 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:52.640 right now. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.240 Yeah, absolutely, very very noteworthy, and not that it's going 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.359 anywhere right now in this House, but the very act 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.919 that such a proposal was offered and co sponsored by 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:09.520 a lot of Democrats, mainstream Democrats, is a total total 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.720 sea change. Last thing I wanted to put up in 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.320 this block is a seven, just to show you how 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:20.080 precarious this moment continues to be. There was a ship 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.840