1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't talk with Jack Morris? Did 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: you Jack Warres? Drive Time? Ryan Sex sexty John says 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: it actually Jeff Warres Drive Time starts right now when 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: we have a game plan before we go in every interview, 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: and each player has a detailed game plan of what 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: we want to find out in that fifteen minutes. So 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: certain players we might know everything about their background, but 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: we want to get them on the board or watch 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: the video. For him, it's probably their first job interview 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: they've ever had, um for most of them, but it's important. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: It's it's the next phase of their life, the next 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: phase of their career. And this is really the Dave 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Caldwell Show this week is the Jaguars get set to 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: head the Indianapolis and the twenty nineteen NFL Combine. There 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: was a day when none of that was there. I 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: don't know about the stadium. I'm talking about the tents 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: outside and the extra security and the signs hanging. The 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: combine was the place where the scouts got together and 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: just did the dirty work, the stuff that needed to 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: get done, the heights and the weights and the medical checks, 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: and there wasn't anything sexy about it, But I mean, 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: look at it now, it's like a mini super Bowl. 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome in Jags drive time on a 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: Tuesday here in North Florida. The people next to me 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: are getting set to get on an airplane and head 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis, where it's getting busier and busier by the day. John, 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: we probably have this, probably this conversation every year, good 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: oppression about what this thing has become. But you covered 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: it when you were here in Jacksonville in the early days, 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: back when there really was no coverage, and then in 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: India now today, I guess you're probably not surprised at 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: what it's become, because no one's surprised by what the 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: NFL does. But it is still kind of head scratching 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: it how big the underwear Olympics have become. Yeah, I'm 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: not so old as to be in the really old 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: writer group. They covered it, you know before. That's a 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: stretch because covering it was sitting in the hotel lobby 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: across the street. You weren't allowed in the building. Right 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: you went to there was a there's a train, uh 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: station slash hotel down way down. You know what I 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: think of his way down in Indy and that's where 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: the writers would go because where the players stayed. But 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: there were no cameras. Uh. I do predate the podium access. 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: There was a time when the players were not brought 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: in for interviews that that was necessary off limits. But 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: you had to go there and you maybe got one 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: or two guys that you really worked for. UM and 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I certainly predate the time where coaches were available. Coaches 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: and general managers were available. So yes, why did you go? 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: You basically chased down your guys. I can remember talking 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: to Tom Coughlin as he was on his way to 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: mass on Saturday night, after three or four days of 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: trying to get him, calling Dan Edwards, Hey, where's Tom 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna be? Uh, and then him the first thing he 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: said when he saw me was like, my cap figured out, Dad, 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: because I had. I've been writing about the salary cap 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: the whole time. So that was sort of the combine 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: it was. You went. It was like the old owners 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: meetings where you basically went and you tried to chase 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: down a few guys, try to get a little bit 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: of information, but there was not the media access. Now 62 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: it's become a touchstone point for the media in the 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: NFL League year in the sense that you get an 64 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: update on on on. Most teams are at the podium, 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: meaning they're people are speaking, which Dave called well and 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Doug Marron will speak. But there was certainly a time 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: where this was a vastly different event. The big turn was, 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: I want to say it was it was two thousand 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: to two thousand three when they decided to let the 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: television cameras in for the workouts. In the nineties. That 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: would have been absolutely something that would have never been done. 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: When you talk to football people, they said, television cameras 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: will ruin the combine, it will never happen. What it 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: did instead was it improved the combine because now guys 75 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: always run, almost always work out. Back in the day, Brian, 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: these guys didn't. The story was always well who's running? Well, 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: now they all run the forty because they're scared not to, 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: and time to get you in here. Take a breath, John, 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: absolutely indies man, right here, it's okay. I just I 80 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: was amazed at how you just kept running. I can 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: go if you keep talking talking. Absolutely, Uh Hi, you know, 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: I just realized that this week you will gain an 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: experience that I've never had in the NFL because I've 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: never gone to cover the combine. I've always draft or 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl other things. I've just never taken the time 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: to go to Indie for it. So you'll have to. 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Now you can have a little experience on me. I'll 88 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: fill you in. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to say, Hey, 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: you know the first combine you go to, let me 90 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: tell you how to do it right exactly. Let's hit 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: big things and get started. We'll go right back to John. 92 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: All right, big thing one, no surprises. The combine Wednesday 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: schedule is a big one. We'll here dug Morown and 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: Dave Cobba on the podium. Dug rown and Dave Cabill 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: also join John and I live on Facebook. The importance 96 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: here is that this is the first time we've heard 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: heard Dave Cobbell speak in quite a while, before even 98 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the start of last football season is the last time 99 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: we heard from Dave. Like portals will be addressed, Nick 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: Foles will be addressed, getting a quarterback possibly in the draft, 101 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: that's also going to be addressed. So it's a lot 102 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: of things to say for Dave, and it's something that 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: we haven't heard in quite a while so you know, John, 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: for all the history of the combine and where it is, 105 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: the reality of it is is that the throwing, the running, 106 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: the drills, that's That's not what the combine really is 107 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: all about. It's the interviews that Dave talked off the 108 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: top and the medical checks. The opportunity for your doctors 109 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: and physical guys, uh, the strength coaches and and the 110 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: medical trainers to you know, to get a look at 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: some of these guys. I have nothing left to say. 112 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: Come on, come onive sensitive John. It actually is at 113 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: its heart. When you talk to football people, they consider 114 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: the medical examinations number one with a bullet in this thing, 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: even past the interviews because they can get the interviews 116 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: at another time. A lot of these guys have already 117 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: talked to people at the Senior I mean, I be 118 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: general managers, scouts have talked to players at the Senior Bowl. 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: They will get a chance to come in if if 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: if they're targeting guys to bring I think it's thirty 121 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: guys in UH, they can have on campus visits. So 122 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: they've gotten to know these guys a lot. The interviews 123 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: are important, but it's the medical because it gets every 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: team doctor a chance to do the physical examinations on 125 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: the guys. That's the information that they really want. And 126 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: that's why Indie is such an important spot because all 127 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: of the medical stuff, all of the hospitals they need 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: to get guys to, are right in downtown Indianapolis. And 129 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: that's the biggest fear for trying to move it somewhere 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: is if they lose those logistics, then it becomes a 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: much more cumbersome process. Wrap up the whole combine with 132 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: this um the ratings and the popularity of the game, 133 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: and you can measure it many different ways. But I 134 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: use the combine to explain to people just how strong 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: the hunger for professional football is. Because you've got guys 136 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: running around, uh in shorts and T shirts. I mean, 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: it's not even a practice, right, It's guys that some 138 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: of them you know their names, maybe a small handful, 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: most of them no clue, you know. And yet people 140 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: will watch this and they will draw better ratings for 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the combine than for an NBA game, or a hockey game, 142 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: or a Major League Baseball game. The underwear Olympics, is 143 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: they have been dubbed, are immensely popular. I'm not interested 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: in the running side of it, the throwing side of 145 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: it really at all, and yet so many people want 146 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: to know what's going on at the combine, not to 147 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: me really explains just the depth of the NFL's roots 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: in our society. Well, I think if it's presented well, 149 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: it's antifl Network is a nice job of presenting it, 150 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: and in the past when Mike Mayock has been on it, 151 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: it's been very, very good in terms of the analysis 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: of the players. My sense and my hope is that 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: that's what people are are tuning in for, just as 154 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: much as actually to watch the guys around the forty 155 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: is a chance all weekend to sort of gather information 156 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: on the draft, to hear people talk about it, to 157 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: hear the analysis. But you see what I'm saying. Don't 158 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: people have better things to do with their lives then 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 1: here analysis on college football players, most of whom won't 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: make it. Yes, But I think it's the chance that 161 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: your favorite NFL team might take that one player that 162 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: you have to be paying attention to. That's exactly what 163 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, is is that this which is not sporting, 164 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: really has drawn the sporting public in at a greater 165 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: level than the other professional sports have, which just goes 166 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: to show you the depth of the NFL. Yeah, And 167 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about the importance of the medical evaluation. 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: We were with Dave Cobble yesterday talking about the combine 169 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: experience and it was really focused on the interview aspect 170 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: of it. And I was hyping up because I've read 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: all week about how important the fifteen minute interview is. 172 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, but we have fifteen minutes. But 173 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: if we really want to know something about a play there, 174 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: we can go find him and ask. So I mean 175 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: made this hype up NFL network fifteen minute interview and 176 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: really it's all medical for the most part. Yeah, that's true. Okay, 177 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Big thing too, Big thing too is the quarterbacks. The 178 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: major story, of course of the combine will be Kyler Murray, 179 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Dayne Haskins, all the other quarterbacks that could go in 180 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: Round one. And just once Kyler Murray declared that he 181 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: would be in the NFL Draft and participating in the 182 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: NFL Combine, it has taken a whole new storm to 183 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: this storyline. But I mean, he's the major storyline of 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: this combine. Question, John, any doubt he's the first round pick? Um? No, 185 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: not a first round pick. I do doubt you can 186 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: see a scenario easily where he's a top five pick, 187 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: or you can see a scenario where he's the story 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: of him sliding because teams are just so worried about it. 189 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: But top pick right, first round pick, top story, certainly, 190 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: but a top sure. I think most people would agree 191 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: on that. So if I'm him, I asked the NFL, 192 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: if you want me to throw, then where's my scratch? Right? 193 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Because everyone's going to tune in to watch this kid throw. 194 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: They put it on Saturday to increase their Saturday ratings. 195 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: If I'm Kyler Murray, Dwayne Haskins, I'm thinking, hey, guys, 196 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: have a little something for the effort here. Huh. Yeah, 197 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: I don't blame because that's what everyone's tuning into. I 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: mean a tongue in cheek, but the reality of it 199 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: is is that the quarterback storyline is big because of 200 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: all the guys who are in the bucket for possible 201 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: first round pick. And then you've got Murray, who is 202 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: as compelling a story as I can remember heading into 203 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: the combine. He's a guy. It could be interesting to 204 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: see how people react if he doesn't throw, because does 205 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: he need to? You've seen his arm well, but there 206 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: is an issue with him with hand size. Size of 207 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: the NFL ball is different. If if there's anything that 208 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: people are now focusing on with him, the bulk thing 209 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: has sort of faded a little bit because the word 210 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: is he's tuned in five tun and six pounds, which 211 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: is important. But um, I heard Tony Boselli say a 212 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that when you look at him, 213 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: he just looks little and the ball looks a little 214 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: you know why the ball looks big in his hands. 215 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: He's just a small human being to be playing in 216 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: the NFL quarterback position. So um, if he goes out 217 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: there and just has sort of a it looks little moment, 218 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: does that hurt him? You know, I can't imagine that 219 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: it Actually, I'm not a big believer that the combine 220 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: truly pushes guys as far up and down draft boards 221 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: as the media makes it out to be. Because but 222 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: with him, if if, if you're talking about a perception 223 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: pick and about a team that's just sort of worried 224 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: about taking it because there it's a risk there, you 225 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: do wonder if having that moment where you look little 226 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: on a big stage would hurt I doubt it, but 227 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: maybe his participation will have meat turning on. And there's 228 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: only one other time I've ever watched the combine. I 229 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: read everything and talk to people, but I watched when 230 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: Leonard ran a couple of years ago because I was 231 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: curious how fast he would run. I'll watch him on 232 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Saturday throw because it's as well. And look, I don't 233 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: watch much college football. I catch up on it all 234 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: during this time of the year, but when Oklahoma was on, 235 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: I watched because he's such a compelling athlete. It shouldn't 236 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: be this way with him, but it will. It's gonna 237 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: get picked apart whatever GM drafts him, and it's going 238 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: to take a GM with guts to go against the 239 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: old school grain. So that's why I say that there 240 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: may be more perception in this pick and worried about, oh, 241 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: he didn't look at the combine. Well, what are my 242 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: friend GM is gonna say if I drafted you know, 243 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: and I'm exaggerating that, but a little bit of the 244 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: perception of how can you take this guy when he 245 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: looks like this, meaning how small he is. I don't 246 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: know if he'll have a big deal, but maybe with 247 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: him gonna have more of a deal than it would 248 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: for a lot of other players. All right, and it's 249 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: not the same size wise, but I can recall last 250 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: year in Baker Mayfield was at the Combine. Everyone was 251 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: talking about he's not the pro style quarterback, and yeah 252 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: he was short, but not as short as Kyler Murray. 253 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: But look how that turned out for him in the 254 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: same system. We'll find out. All right, big thing three 255 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: is on the clock already, the cap is the deadline 256 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: for the cap is quickly approaching. We keep talking about 257 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: adding all these players we just talked about the Combine 258 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: and the draft, but none of them have been cut 259 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: yet to clear the room for the players that this 260 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: team wants to at. There were a couple of players 261 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: around the league yesterday that were informed that they were 262 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: going to be released. Uh, nothing from Jacksonville, but just 263 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, some notable guys who were told they would 264 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: not be brought back, some in Carolina. UM. And the 265 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: reality of it is that this next week, next ten 266 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: day really about addition the draft. UM. But then we've 267 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: gotta start talking about some traction around here with guys 268 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: who have big salary cap numbers. And the Jaguars are 269 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: still at this moment in negative salary cap territory, they've 270 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: got to start clearing some room and that will become 271 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: the next story. Yeah, and uh, they know they're going 272 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: or at the very least, it's now down to a 273 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: few Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. And I don't 274 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: think it will be very hard to get to because 275 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: they do know the plan. I don't think like Boils 276 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: will be back, and I think Millie Jackson'll be back. 277 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: Those are some others, and those are the two biggest 278 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: that gets you down really close to where you need 279 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: to be. And because you just need to get to 280 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: zero at this point, I mean, you can clear you 281 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: don't have to be technically being in the cab by 282 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Mars thirteenth. They don't have to have all the cap 283 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: room that they want to have. But the combine is 284 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: a time when they've called well of the world. He 285 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: and his counterparts will get together with the agents for 286 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: the veteran free agents that they have and just veteran 287 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: players and start talking about restructuring, which is another area 288 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: of creating cap room. It's one that I get wary 289 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: of because we've seen it really go south Jacksonville before. 290 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: But if you've got the right player and can do 291 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: the right deal. Some of that restructuring could take place 292 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: over the next few days too. I can't imagine, Brian, 293 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: that we're going to see the massive restructuring, massing, massive 294 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: push out that we saw in the late nineties and 295 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: early two thousand. I would be on board with you 296 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: of being very concerned about that, but I can't imagine 297 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: that you'll have more than one, two, three of those, 298 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and I think it will be. When the Jaguars did 299 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: that in the late nineties, they became the prototype of 300 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: what not to do, and I don't think you see 301 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: as many teams do that in such a dangerous, risky 302 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: fashion as they did at that point. No, it's just 303 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: the idea that you've always got to have your eye 304 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: on three years from now and not in. They went 305 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: all in salary cap wise and signed Carnell Lake, Gary Walker, 306 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Kyle Brady, and what that did was put them in 307 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: a position where a few years later they couldn't compete. 308 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: So again, I don't see that happening here. Lessons learned, um, 309 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: But you've got to be careful with the restructures because 310 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: if a guy gets hurt and you can't have him 311 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: on your roster. All that money you push out comes 312 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: into a into the year. You have to release him right, 313 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: and creates a mess. You're scarred by the late nights. Yeah, well, 314 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: actually give him a hug. It was the it was 315 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: the early part. It was the early part. Two thousand two. Yeah, 316 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. I get fans out there 317 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: who lived through it, right, They've never fully recovered from it. 318 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: So I mean the guy a break. Yeah, let's see. 319 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm here. I hope it doesn't happen to you. I 320 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: am here, all right, let's take a break. What's next? 321 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: What are we do when we come? Just what we need? 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Every time I see him, he 347 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: tell me it was a lie. But uh yeah, if 348 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: I could, if I could take, if I can get 349 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: from some of my speed, he give me some of 350 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: that just natural ability that he have. I think we 351 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: would be having a pretty good understanding. There's a guy 352 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: that Jaguars have a couple of questions about, hopefully he 353 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: can find that speed and hands and everything it takes 354 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: to make the transition to your two in the n 355 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: FELL from a guy that we have a couple of 356 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: questions about to a guy that we have a couple 357 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: of questions for him the transition, I'll give you that. 358 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: There's no combines for that question. I knew you. I 359 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: remember him being fast. I've heard of forgotten the four three. 360 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: He didn't play that fast last year as a wide receiver. No, 361 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: but don't we always talk about them nicky receivers struggled 362 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: to come in and slate to their great attributes. I mean, 363 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: Julio Jones is a rare exception, but most of them 364 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: do because they're learning in NFL office, which is much 365 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: more intricate. He walked in here yesterday, was walking through 366 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: the gate and I was walking in, and he stopped high. 367 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: How are you? How's your off season going? Just such 368 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: a personable kid. But the thing I couldn't help as 369 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: I walked behind him and his girlfriend is think his boy, 370 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: that Jaggers really need this kid this year because he 371 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: looks like an NFL receiver. Yes, he is tall, he's 372 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: got broad shoulders, he's got length in the arms, in 373 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: the hands. He's got everything he needs to succeed. Yeah. 374 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I saw him in the hall and I thought, okay, 375 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: this big important player in this and he looks a 376 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: little more comfortable, which happens with the rookies. You know, 377 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: they come back and you've been away for a little while, 378 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: a little more of a feeling that it it's his time, 379 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: his team, he belongs Hopefully for him, that will raise 380 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: his comfort and he'll be what his physical attributes show 381 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: he can be. Yeah. The best was after we sat 382 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: down with him. He goes, Man, you guys are here 383 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: all year. You work all year. And I'm like, yeah, 384 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: we're here almost, you know, Monday through Friday. He goes, 385 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: I pulled into the parking lot and I couldn't believe 386 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: all the cars that were here. Never forget every day exactly. 387 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: They don't. They don't quite grasp that concept because they 388 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: don't have to. Someday, lots of them do. We gotta 389 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: laugh out of it, man, you guys are here. It's 390 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: still yeah, we're still here. You know what I was 391 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: impressed with He wore did you see his shoes up? 392 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Red shoes? And I told him, you're only waist up 393 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: right red oversized. I don't know whether they were Air 394 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: Jordan's or not. They were huge shoes, and outside of 395 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: you and Ronald McDonald, I'm not sure how many people 396 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: could pull off big red shoes. The Angels have my redes. Okay, 397 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: here we go Travis High Springs, Florida. Last year during 398 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: training camp, there are a lot of statements made about 399 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: a s J being one of b B five's favorite targets, 400 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: making big plays and being a better blocker than initially thought. 401 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: He obviously got injured early and didn't play much, But 402 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: do you think they may be giving up on him 403 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: too soon? You know, I wrestled with this because in 404 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: one sense maybe, but it just feels Brian like they 405 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: need to reset the tight end position, and I keep 406 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: saying that Blake borders it. Sometimes it's just time to 407 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: move on. It feels that way with tight end that 408 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: they need to get I think they need to draft 409 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: in the first two rounds. I'm more and more leaning 410 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: towards if if you trade back a couple of spots 411 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: but taken maybe even in the first round, to get 412 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: that position right. It's becoming such an important position in 413 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. It just feels like they need a 414 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: fresh start, new direction. Let's get this thing the way 415 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: we want to get it. And with the hype of 416 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: t J. Hawkins. And I've heard that even if you 417 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: stay at seven, he's that good of a guy that 418 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: you can say at seven and take him there. He 419 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: might be gone before that too. He's really climbing up. 420 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: So John, my sense is that there's a personality issue there. Um. 421 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: I loved him because he would stand there and tell 422 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: you anything he thought. I didn't get the sense that 423 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: that was always well received. You know, he made a 424 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: comment again, this was well received. He was asked a 425 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: question if your call, about his alcoholism and his troubles 426 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: with that, and he looked at the media down in 427 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: the TV studio where we do news conferences one day 428 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: after training camp and said, all we're gonna have this 429 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: conversation once. Don't ever ask me about it again. So 430 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: he had a little locker room lawyer to him, And 431 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: you know that doesn't always go over as well. There's 432 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: not as much room for that in in every NFL 433 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: locker room. And I just kind of got the sense 434 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: that he didn't necessarily fit from a personality perspective. I 435 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: think that was part of it. He also, you know, 436 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: he's been injured, had to stand the field and past 437 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: stops and in place five games six million dollars to stop. UH. 438 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: At some point do they look at him and say, Okay, 439 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: we think this is what he is. We need young 440 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: reliable guy at that spot. I would think that probably 441 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: tips the balance a little more than what you're talking about, 442 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: although I think that's a factor as well. Well. You're 443 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: talking about bringing in a young tight end. UH. Coaches 444 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: they know these guys and how they fit with where 445 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: they're going, and perhaps they just didn't see it. No not, 446 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: perhaps they didn't see it, which is why they moved on. 447 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: The salarycap though was also an issue. Is a six 448 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: million dollar head there four or five million under? I 449 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: mean you you need to move on from some of 450 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: those veterans that you aren't absolutely rock solid certain of 451 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: about their place in your organization and on your team, 452 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: and they chose him to be John. I get why 453 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: you wrestle with it, because I remember last August he 454 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: was like the topic of our show many shows was 455 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: their relationship with Blake and how honest and at times blunt, 456 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: but we appreciated in the media how honest he was 457 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: with us. Yes, I get why it's it's a good 458 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: question from Travis because yeah, yeah, I mean you do. 459 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: You don't want to see a guy that you saw 460 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: so much potential from necessarily walk but that may be 461 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: an indicator of where where they might be going early 462 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: in the draft. Also, Tom puts a premium on availability. Yeah, 463 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't available. All right, Let's go to Chapel Hill 464 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: in North Carolina with Geba. If the Jags signed Nick 465 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: Foles and then Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins falls and 466 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: that number seven overall, what would you say the chance 467 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: they draft him ten percent him falling at number seven. Yeah, 468 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's out of the question. He falls 469 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: number seven because the draft plays out in weird way 470 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: and send it takes Murray above him, you usually see 471 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: him fall into seven. I think it's about I think 472 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: it's a pretty low percentage chance that they go Folds 473 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: and a first round quarterback, but that could depend on 474 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: just how much they're infatuated with Haskins. You signed Folds 475 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: in this scenario, you signed Folds assuming that he's going 476 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: to be your guy for a couple of years. So 477 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: it makes quarterback non essential on draft day. But if 478 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: you've scouted this guy and you love him and you 479 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: think he's franchise material, Uh, that could be the curve 480 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: ball of the draft. If it comes up. I would 481 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: still put it very, very low, but I could see 482 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: them maybe maybe doing it. Here's why I go a 483 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: little bit higher. And I mean we've talked about developing 484 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks used the Chiefs example the last couple of weeks 485 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: and how many years they recycled other teams and Niners 486 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in particular. But when you look at a franchise, 487 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: look at Cleveland and all the cap space they have. 488 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: This franchise that didn't have a franchise quarterback for years, 489 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: had the cap room to maneuver and add players in 490 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: free agency. A rookie quarterback is a valuable asset because 491 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: if they're any good, they're playing at a fixed cost. 492 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: Nick Foles comes in. If he does and we're not 493 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: saying that we know for sure that's the case, he's 494 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: going to play a twenty million or more, and that 495 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback is more valuable than Nick Foles to me. 496 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I get the situation where they're at because 497 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: they want to win now and they've got defensive players 498 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: and salary cap tied up and winning now. But man, 499 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: you've got to have your eye on the future. And 500 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: if Haskins is a guy that has a grave that 501 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: deserves to go at number seven and they like him, 502 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: well it should be a hundred percent. I get it. 503 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: You know people are gonna say, they say, well, why 504 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: don't you draft the tight end. I mean, you've got 505 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: to give false weapons. We absolutely, but you can get 506 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: that later in the draft possible. But to me, well, 507 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: to me, you you have to take the young quarterback. 508 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: You have to take that. Yeah, I mean it's a 509 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: strong argument, and but I'm with you. I don't think 510 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: it's likely if they take Folds. Just hard to see 511 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: them actually doing it because then you've got fold without 512 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: enough weapons. Yeah. So, I mean it's uh, I instinctively 513 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: completely agree with you. I just don't think they would 514 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: do it. You're answering the question the way he asked it. 515 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: What do you think the percentage is if it happens. 516 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is that I wouldn't pass on 517 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: the quartership. If you don't have one, do not pass 518 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: on the quarterback? And you, well you got foals. Yeah, 519 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: that's someone else's quarterback and make you no idea how 520 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: he'll play next year. And you know what, no knock 521 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: on him, right, he's not here. So this is the fact. 522 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: In November, we went to Kansas City and Alex Smith 523 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: was injured and so nick Foles started. That was not 524 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: a good Jacksonville team, if you recall the fact it 525 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: got the coach fired. It was not very good at all. 526 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: And yet they made Nick Foles look as average is 527 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: average could be the only reason that Jaguars lost the 528 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: game that day was because they had four turnovers, right, 529 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: and Chris I refumbled at a goal line in what 530 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: should have been a go ahead touchdown in the second half. 531 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't all then impressed with Nick Foles. Right now, 532 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: he's playing with a coach that fits him perfectly and 533 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: a system that fits what he does, and he's played great. 534 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: Maybe he's better, I don't know, but I'd be really 535 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: scared based on what I saw. Personally, I'd take Haskins 536 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: or I take Murray if I think those guys have 537 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: the grade and belong that If they're yeah, it's it's 538 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: a theoretically you're dead on never passing a quarterback, never 539 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: pass on the quarterback. That's a reality you need. All right, 540 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: let's go to Mike from Atlanta. I forgot that Dante 541 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Moncrief was on the roster. The Jaguars have three receivers 542 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: definitely worth keeping Marquisley, D D. Westbrook and D J. 543 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: Chark Jr. Do you think they will bring in another 544 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: mid level veteran receiver. May have forgotten too because he's 545 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: counting his nine. I think he's okay, Yeah, he's fine. 546 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. I think they will bring in a mid 547 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: level veteran of of some ILK. I don't think it 548 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: will be nearly the cost. I think it be nearly 549 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: the frontline guy that Moncrief was. UM. I think Keel 550 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: and Cole will have more of an opportunity. I mean 551 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: maybe fans have written him off a little bit. I 552 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: think he'll have a very real opportunity to show that 553 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: he can get back to his rookie level, to get 554 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: back to that six yard guy that he was as 555 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: a rookie. UM. I think they'll need one more element 556 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: in the receiving corps to be productive next year. And 557 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that where they'll be able to draft receiver, 558 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: which at this point I can't see them taking it 559 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: high in the draft. I don't think that they will 560 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: get it in mid round. So I think unless they 561 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: surprise me and go first second round with it, then 562 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: I think it will be a veteran guy coming in 563 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: with the hope that he can give you, that he 564 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: can be the guy to to step in and a pinch. 565 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: I think the availability of Marquis Lee is going to 566 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: be the telltale factor for how much time an effort 567 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: they spend in the veteran free agent market. UM. I 568 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: was walking out one day last week and Marquis was 569 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: walking in and he looked at me. He goes, you 570 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna be ready? And I said, well, 571 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: you know what I said was it didn't look like 572 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: you would be ready. That was a serious injury. And 573 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: he said, I'll be ready. And I said, Marky's Everyone 574 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: says that there's never a player coming back from the 575 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: A c L that's cautious with it to go. I'll 576 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: be ready. I'm you know, I want to practice. They 577 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: all say that, will you be ready? That was a 578 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: serious injury. He said, I'll be ready. I'm ahead of schedule. 579 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: I said, they all say that too. He smiled he 580 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: goes you know me, and I said, I know you 581 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: and I love him. He's a great dude, fantastic guy. Um, 582 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: I hope he is. If he is ready, right, be 583 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: surprised because that was a serious injury. But if he's ready, 584 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about it as much. You 585 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: you spend more time focusing on the development of the 586 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: big boy, because if he's ready, then they really have 587 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: something DJ Stark when they maybe as much as Taven 588 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: Brian Uh. How DJ plays this year will determine whether 589 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: their approach last year in the draft was a success 590 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: or folly, if you will. Because they drafted DJ Chark 591 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: with the idea of a first round grade that he'd 592 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: be developing. Shouldn't be any question that he starts this 593 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: year none, right, um, which he didn't start last year. 594 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: So he's got to start this year and he's got 595 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: to be much closer to a one than he ever 596 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: showed last year. You can do that, as you said, 597 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: you're two guys developed, but that will show whether they 598 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: were smart or where they were foolish. Let's not forget, 599 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: by the way, that he missed a big chunk of 600 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: the season with the quad injury and He's a guy 601 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: that was on the rise if you talk to coaches 602 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: and other players on the practice field. So his development 603 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: was stunted by that to a degree. Oh one more 604 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: thing on DJ Chark though that we have to point out. 605 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: He was an absolute terror on special team. Long fast 606 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: got down there on punt coverage and may play after 607 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: play after play. And the one plan it's escaping me 608 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: was at the Houston game where he it was the 609 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: huge game where he forced the fumble right when the 610 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: guy moved it, so he didn't force it. It was 611 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: muffed and he backed up. Do you remember that he 612 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: backed up? And I remember the coaches on the side, 613 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: I go, WHOA did you see that? The body control 614 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: that he showed. The The expectation for him is very high. 615 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: He's a key okay, yeah, because it was about you. 616 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: John loves him some. John. 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What a stud pretty good stuff. 649 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: Not just a great player, but I mean what a 650 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: fantastic human being, A lot of fun to be around him. Well, 651 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: that stat shows you he grades high in all areas. 652 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: Edge rusher is getting so tied in with sack number. 653 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: He's a great pass rusher, but his unbelievable value is 654 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: that he everything at the position well, and he's more 655 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: than just an edge guy. What Miller mac all all 656 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: pros Campbell should have been too. Yes, absolutely, all right, 657 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: let's go to Peter Peter Schraeger from Good Morning Football. 658 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: That's a top twister. Good discussion on Good Morning Football. 659 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson decided not to run the forty a year 660 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: ago at the combine. Could Cayler Murray declined height and 661 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: weight measurements this year? Yes he could? Should he though? 662 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Absolutely not? And I'm I saw this tweet 663 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: and I saw the discussion around it, and I forget 664 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: who said this, and I apologized, but they made a 665 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: good point. Lamar Jackson declined to run the forty last year. 666 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: My understanding is because he didn't want to be portrayed 667 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. It was a perception, is right, um, 668 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: And that makes sense. You know, you don't want to 669 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: go there and run the four two and all of 670 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: a sudden people are talking about well, so there was 671 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: a percession. The there is no perception like that involved 672 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: with this. If Kyler Murray runs, I mean, if Kyler 673 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: Murray measures five six, they're not gonna say let's have 674 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: him play kicker. It's gonna be well. So at some 675 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: point that's going to come out. They all know Lamar 676 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: Jackson is fast. It was not going to be a 677 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: negative if he was fast or slow. So it also, 678 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: in Lamar Jackson's point of view, wasn't really pertinent to 679 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: his conversation. This is very pertinent Kyler Murray's conversations. Well, 680 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: and look, good morning football. If you've ever watched it, 681 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: they come up with different things like this. There's never 682 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: been a player who's who said I won't get on 683 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: the scale, I won't stand and have you measured me? Um. 684 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: So it's a bit out there as a thought, but 685 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: it's great banter for conversation. The reality of it is 686 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: is that his agent came out last week and said 687 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: he's two hundred and five pounds. All right, Well, if 688 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: your agents saying that, then you gotta step on the scale, 689 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: improve it. And while you're there, we're just gonna measure you. Right, 690 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: he needs to be His height is what his height is. 691 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: His weight is something obviously that he and his agent 692 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: and whatever coach he trusts will decide, you know, the target. 693 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's two in, maybe it's two or five right 694 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: wherever they figure he can play his game. That will 695 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: be the issue. Right because of the durability of the 696 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: NFL and him getting hit. He can't do anything about hype, 697 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: but he can do something. He'll get on the scale. 698 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: The guests here, though, is that you know there's just 699 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: something about him that doesn't look as thick as Russell 700 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: Wilson um and has been in comparison. That's gonna you know, 701 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: Russell was I think of the commines, that's what he's Yeah, 702 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: and again I don't know medically what that means, but 703 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: that's going to be the discussion among jams. Does he 704 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: get closer his boy? He just doesn't look quite like 705 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? Did you know? I had a conversation with 706 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: a scout in December and at that point he hadn't 707 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: even declared that he was going to play, and most 708 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: people thought. The conversation went like this, can he make 709 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: plays on the edge in our league? In college football, 710 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: he could run away from those guys, But in our game, 711 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: he's going to get hit. And if he gets hit, 712 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: which he didn't get a lot of at Oklahoma, will 713 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: he be durable? Can he play every Sunday in the NFL. 714 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: That's the decision process that they've got to come to 715 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray. And you may not know until he 716 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: actually plays. And that's that is the point that you 717 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: just made, is one that when I write it, when 718 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: you talk about it with a lot of observers, they 719 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: dismiss it as just another factor. It's the factor with 720 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: him because you know he can throw and you know 721 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: he can play, and it's one that a lot of 722 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: gms can't get around. Is I don't know if this 723 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: kid is going to be on the field for me 724 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: every Sunday. It's risky. It is all right, let's finish 725 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: it off with some positivity, Unique and dock Way because 726 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: we did this out yesterday. Can the season come yet? John? 727 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: You were asking this the other day, football season. I'm 728 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: miss I really was. I was thinking, boy, I wish 729 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: it was training game. Everybody. I said that to you. Brian, Yeah, boy, 730 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: I can't wait for August. I would think you can't 731 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: wait for Nay, there's nothing. I don't look forward to 732 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: anything really except football except football season. Boy. Well, that's 733 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: that's one player that you can count on. That Oh 734 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: that he's I mean, he's just always wound up. And 735 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: by the way I mean he's he's playing for a 736 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: new deal, so he wants to get through that season, 737 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: have a big year, and then have a big contract. 738 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, if I'm him, I'm tweeting that too. Lame him. 739 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: Final break, We'll come back with he will he won't 740 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: he might to pre combine. Addition, Brian Ashland, John, Joe Max, 741 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: the whole crew here this morning. Some of them though, 742 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: headed to Indianapolis back after this. You can step up 743 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: to luxury now. Hello, I'm Dan Fields. 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Here 767 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: is a look at the coverage that you can expect 768 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: from Ashland and John on Wednesday. Wednesday Big Day, Doug 769 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: Dave at the podium on Live as well. Like we said, 770 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: Dave hasn't talked in a very long time. Stot is 771 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: of importance. Thursday and Friday, we have live Facebook shows 772 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: as well with national media and a new content series 773 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: coming to the website. From the eyes of the player, GM, 774 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: Doctor and Scout first person, what it's like for them 775 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: at the combine, phenomenal, fantastic, if it's accomplished to be 776 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: the can't wait? What a right? Through the eyes of 777 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: the senior writer, get that it's called nobody wants to 778 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: see it's called it's called what do you call it snapshot. Yeah, 779 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: we get it all the time. Okay. Uh, we haven't 780 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: done this in a while, not since the season, So 781 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: let's do a little he'll he will, he won't. He might, 782 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: and we'll start with you John and he won't. He 783 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: will talk, which will be the first time. I'm not 784 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: sure the last time Dave talked. I think it was 785 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 1: before last season. So it'll be important. It'll be waited 786 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: for by fans. Uh anxiously for some questions along the 787 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: lines of, you know, he might get asked about Dante 788 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: Fowler Jr. He might get asked about like Bortles just 789 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: maybe slam you hear her, Sho's over here cracking her 790 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: knuckles and anticipation if you ask some questions. Um so, yeah, 791 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: that happened. It is a big event. Uh in terms 792 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: of the news for this team. Uh, he won't say 793 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: very much, so uh don't you'll get too jacked up 794 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: about it because they're in a mode right now where 795 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 1: there's not a lot to say. If he's asked about Blake, 796 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: I anticipated being hey, Uh, we have a plan, We're 797 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: of adding anything. Blake's our quarterback until he's not, essentially, 798 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: Uh So it will be along those lines. You can 799 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 1: probably get a hint of some things with Dave because 800 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: he he likes to be as transparent as possible when 801 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: it's reasonable. He might not be very entertaining, and that's 802 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: just all right, and that's okay. But I mean again, 803 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't expect Dave's media availability to outline the Folds 804 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: plan or the Dwayne Haskins plan. I do want to 805 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: ask him, what do you think about Kyler Murray? Just 806 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: conceptually is the guy I think complaining the league. But again, 807 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: I anticipate him saying absolutely. You know, he's not going 808 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: to give away any plans for the next two months, 809 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: so you hope you get some sort of hint about 810 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: the directions they might be going. I have Dwayne Haskins 811 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: as my He will, he won't, he might. He will 812 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: be the most impressive quarterback at the Combine. I've heard 813 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: about his i Q and his football knowledge. I think 814 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: once teams get him in the interview room and get 815 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: him on the board, I think he's going to separate 816 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: himself from Kyler Murray that storyline of this year's combine. 817 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: He won't listen to the critics that said he doesn't 818 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: have enough experience, only starting one year at Ohio State. 819 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: But if you got it, you got it, and it 820 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: seems like he's got it. He might be the Jaguars guy. 821 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier in the show. If you're 822 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: there at seven and he's there, you might just have 823 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: to take him about it. If it's there. But that's 824 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: that's me and I'm not making the call. So here's 825 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: my He will, he won't, he might be. Ok I 826 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: won't be making the call. You can go with that 827 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: one and Brian Um Tom Coughlin will have the biggest 828 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: decision to make yes a Jaguars coachure executive since he 829 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: that guy, Mark Brunel. I've shared this story, I know, 830 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: with both of you and John. I wrote it in 831 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: a in a story that that was on the web 832 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: not not to too long ago. But back in the 833 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: trailer day on Wednesdays, I would go into his office 834 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: and we would talk about the show that we were 835 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: going to do, the radio show that we were going 836 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: to do. And there was a stack of tapes filled 837 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: with names of quarterbacks and I could list them all 838 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: and nobody would care or even remember them, okay um, 839 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: But there was always one case that was empty, and 840 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: one tape that was in the tape player, and I 841 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: never could figure out what it was because he didn't 842 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: want me to see. Then one day he had to 843 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: go up and get something and the tape actually was 844 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 1: desk got up to go look and it said Mark 845 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: Brunell not gonna be honest with you the time, I 846 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: I didn't know really that much about Mark Brunell, fifth 847 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 1: round pick of the Packers, but that was a huge 848 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: choice for the Jaguars and it played out very, very well. 849 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: So he will have the biggest decision that he's made 850 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: as a Jaguar since that one. He won't tell us. 851 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: He won't talk this week. He is that's not what 852 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: he does right now. Um. He might be the perfect 853 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: person to make this pick. Um, And if you were here, right, 854 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: he might. Um. But he picked Mark Uh, he picked 855 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: Eli Manning. Uh. He was Doug Flutie's coach. So he 856 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: has seen all types of quarterbacks. If you're looking for comparison, 857 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,479 Speaker 1: Doug Flutie, Connor Murray about the same size, right. So 858 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: he has seen small quarterbacks, he has seen big quarterbacks, 859 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: he has seen pocket passers, he has seen mobile He 860 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: might be the perfect person to make this choice and 861 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: he might be the guy who makes the pick. I'm 862 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: Doug and Dave will both have a lot of input, 863 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: but it's likely to be Tom who is the guy. 864 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 1: This is the most important decision that he will make 865 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: since returning to Jacksonville, and Shad is giving him the keys. 866 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure they've ever had a spotlight decision 867 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: quite like this at the quarterback position. Back they chose Mark, 868 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: they were an expansion team. Maybe NEThing about him. Uh 869 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: now it's the lead story on Good Morning Football. Yeah, 870 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: Byron's year, they had been down, they hadn't been to 871 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: the n f C Championship game two years. There's a 872 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: perception and correctly so that if they get the quarterback choice, right, 873 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: this competitor again their competitor, you know. And uh so 874 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: that's an unusual situation to be in, even in even 875 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: in Blake's year, and he was fourteen. If you remember, 876 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: you didn't know going to that off season that they 877 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: were going to pick their quarterback the future. You thought 878 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: it might be the time, but you also thought it 879 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: might be the next year. So it was a little 880 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise. If they don't go folds, everybody's 881 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: expecting the quarterback at number seven. I don't know that 882 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: that's been the case, because that wasn't the case with Gabbert, 883 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: uh they traded up. It was probably the case with 884 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: Byron that you knew they were gonna take a quarterback. 885 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: But if they don't go Folds, it'll be maybe their 886 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 1: first time where you knew they had to go quarterback 887 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: in the top ten. So one other scenario for might 888 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: would be this might be as difficult a decision as 889 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: he's had to make because Tom the coach takes the 890 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: quarterback and then adds the tight end or I'm just 891 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: assuming right or receiver somewhere at Sevan, Tom the the 892 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: vice president of football operations, needs to think about this 893 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: year right and winning this year, but he's also responsible 894 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: for three and five years down the road. He's got 895 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: to pick the quarterback that takes this this team, this 896 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,959 Speaker 1: franchise beyond his tenure here because right because you're about 897 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: seventy two year old man, I mean maybe he defies logic, 898 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: but five years from now you think he'd be retired. Okay, 899 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: you'd think you never know what tc um. He's got 900 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: to pick that guy that goes well beyond his tenure, 901 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: right that Eli Manning guy who is a Jaguar well 902 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: beyond the time the Tom cough and is you know, 903 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: roaming the hallways in the sidelines right. So it might 904 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: be the most important and it might be the most 905 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 1: difficult decision that he will make as a Jaguars executive. Okay, 906 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure. He'll tell you that he 907 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: is up for the challenge and those of us who 908 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: know him would agree with that. So work hand in 909 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: hand with the with David. It would be a big 910 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: week for those guys, all right, that we'll do it 911 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: for our show. John Ashland, you take care of Max, 912 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: uh for these two, for Max, for Jolton, Joe Fortunato, 913 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: we will say, have a pleasant day. More to come 914 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: right here on these digital social Internet channels throughout the 915 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: combined