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Speaker 2: Tip to Tim. This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, the twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: of September twenty twenty and it is time ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: donks and donquats for Morning Combat. Hi everyone, my name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I'm from CBS Sports. I am one

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Speaker 1: half of your hosting duo. The Gentleman on that side

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Speaker 1: is my partner in crime, the conspiracy to my theory,

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Speaker 1: it's Brian Campbell. Brian, we got seven days basically of

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Speaker 1: each other after seven months away.

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Speaker 3: You complete me, Brian?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow Wow Yeah, he had me at hello wow.

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Speaker 2: All right, we don't hate each other after that much time.

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Speaker 2: And no, once again we were not sharing the same

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Speaker 2: hotel room Aldo. There's nothing wrong with that. But we

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Speaker 2: gave it to the people in every possible way and form.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about, Luke, and hopefully people

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Speaker 2: check us out on only fans as well. We launched

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Speaker 2: that after room service Diaries. The camera went off, but

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Speaker 2: we're back with a bang, and this is a big week, right.

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Speaker 2: We're coming off two big pay per views, one in

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Speaker 2: which we played a big role, and now this week

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Speaker 2: we are launching Luke Monday, Wednesday, Friday, live in your face, hole,

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Speaker 2: in your ear hole, however you want to consume it

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Speaker 2: MK all day and also don't forget Tuesdays and Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: A lot of bonus stuff coming at you. This is

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Speaker 2: the takeover. It's happening Luke. Okay, all right, all right,

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Speaker 2: this is it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, So, as BC indicated, he's totally right. This

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Speaker 1: give you everything inside the world of combat sports. So,

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Speaker 1: as we've been saying for a long time, thumbs up

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Speaker 2: Luke, get that sweatshirt you're wearing. How can people wear that?

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Speaker 3: Just one second.

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Speaker 1: I want to do this BC, because I know you

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Speaker 1: agree with me in all seriousness. We got a lot

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Speaker 3: MK has come a long way.

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Speaker 1: So I think it would be fair and appropriate BC

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Speaker 1: to start the show to say, you know what, thanks

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Speaker 3: We thank you back.

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Speaker 2: More Ronalo, Scott Koker, Luke, BC, please give it, give

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Speaker 3: Right now, BC.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, I just put out a short twenty minute video

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Speaker 1: fact to UFC two fifty three. All right, Israel Atasnya

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Speaker 1: it is Israel Atasania man look at what he is doing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: This fight was not merely a rebound from that. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about, Well, what was Costa's game plan? Dude, Costa's

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Speaker 1: catches the rebound, and then dunks it. That's what he

429
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 1: did on Saturday. So it's disrespectful, but it's like, yeah,

430
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: but it's Joel Embiid playing some regulars, you know what

431
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean.

432
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 2: Do you think Boroshina is still slayd afterwards?

433
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 3: Probably?

434
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you look like that and you can't get

435
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 1: laid twenty four to seven. You got a problem, you know.

436
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 1: All right, So that takes us now to our second fight,

437
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 1: which we didn't. I mean, I gotta say you were

438
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 1: really kind of high on this guy, and you deserve

439
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 1: some credit for BC.

440
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 2: Yon have the balls who picked the upset though Luke

441
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 2: I didn't have the balls to go for Yeah.

442
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 1: All right, sometimes you can't pull the trigger, but you

443
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 1: know what, your confidence was well placed. Let's talk about

444
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 1: now the second of the two title fights in your

445
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 1: co main event here point two, Yan Belokovich. Wow, I

446
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 1: am so impressed. You know, we were talking about how

447
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: Adasania made it look easy as Jay puts up the

448
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 1: wrong graphics all over the screen.

449
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 2: You know what, Oh Jay, we want that one back

450
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: on Jay, the one with the fighter where Luke Lean's yeah,

451
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 2: we want one.

452
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 1: Hold a second, b s. Let me get this out.

453
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 1: I'll toss it to you again, Jan Belhovitch, not only

454
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: one BC, and again, we watched combat sports so much

455
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: what upsets happened. We're surprised for a little bit, but

456
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 1: then you rationalize and you're like, okay, I mean, you

457
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: know everyone's got a puncher's chance and blah blah blah, Dude,

458
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 1: this had nothing to do with it. He also dominated

459
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: Dominic reyies. This was not a close fight at all.

460
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: Should we be surprised? Not that Yambolohovich one BC.

461
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 2: But that he won so cleanly, Yeah we should because

462
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 2: you know he is wow, all right, there we go

463
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: here it is there's domb cause he's thirty seven years old, Luke.

464
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 2: And there had been portions of his career where he

465
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 2: looked like a not a pretender, but somewhere between pretender

466
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 2: and contender. Right, he looked like a sort of average

467
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, gatekeeper, journeyman whatever. Full credit to him for

468
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: the improvement. I mean, you gotta love this. He's so

469
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: confident yet never cocky or outwardly confident. It's almost like

470
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: a humble confidence, which is where even look at that celebration, Luke,

471
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: it was almost like, oh my god, this actually happened

472
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: Like it was almost like Holly Holm, which he knock

473
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: out Ronda and she didn't even know what to do

474
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 2: with her hands and she's just like, oh my god.

475
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: It was like, oh my god, like my dreams came true.

476
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: So we shouldn't necessarily have seen it coming. And I

477
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 2: think the Oddsmaker's got this right. Here was my issue

478
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: with Dom. Though he didn't screw up in this fight,

479
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: this wasn't where like oh man, he came into cocky

480
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 2: he was believing his own hype, and Blohowitz made him pay.

481
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: He straight up lost. Jan was the better fighter on

482
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: this night. But I do wonder, which is something I

483
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: did talk about leading up, if there was any kind

484
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 2: of like dump in motivation give him the circumstances when

485
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 2: you're going up against John Jones, with which dom Reis

486
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: did with such impeccable confidence and execution of his skill set.

487
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: You're thinking, this is the fight of my life. You're thinking,

488
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 2: I make one mistake and I'm getting KOed. You're thinking,

489
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 2: I've got to pour out the whole jugg This is

490
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 2: my moment, mom spaghetti, this is everything right now. And

491
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: he fought the fight of his life and we hailed him.

492
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: We said he deserves the rematch. We said, if John

493
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: Jones moves up, you should just give the title to

494
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: dom Reis. And then when they schedule this fight and

495
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: you look at the odds and it's like three to one,

496
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, okay, dom should win this,

497
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: and then we'll figure out, if you know, if Maheta

498
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: can come out of his fight and maybe we can

499
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: start a rival. We're there. I wonder if there was

500
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: some natural element of that to Dom. I'm not saying

501
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: you didn't train. I'm not saying he didn't focus. I'm

502
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: not saying he didn't believe Yan could beat him. But

503
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: whatever it was, he got steamrolled. And we have to

504
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: give Lahowitz that credit. We talked about his patients coming

505
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: in Luke. This was a perfectly patient performance. He landed

506
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: big shots. He never overextended, he never went for broke.

507
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: He just kept at his game plan. And yes, for

508
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: a thirty seven year old, he's got pretty sneaky countershots

509
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 2: that normally it's that right upper cut, left hook package.

510
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: He kind of mixed in different kind of straight punches

511
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: and awkward angle punches. Good god, he deserves it. He's

512
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: a tough ass out and this was one of those

513
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: rare times where you're like, like maybe bispeeing beating rock

514
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: hold where you're like or GSP beating bispee where you're like,

515
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 2: holy shit, he did it. I never expected this. I

516
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't have guessed he did it. It was a good

517
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: moment because you gotta love this guy. Have you ever

518
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: interviewed on Luke? He is so genuine and pure. He's

519
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: literally that guy next door right who mowses long with

520
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: his shirt off and drinks can beer the whole time.

521
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: He's that dude. I have nothing but love for him.

522
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: There's a couple of reasons why I think people like him.

523
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: You noted that he was something at first between pretender

524
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: and contender. I went over this yesterday in the video

525
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: I posted on the Morning Combat channel BC. Do you

526
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: realize he only won two of his first six UFC fights.

527
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: He'd win one, then lose too, then win one, then

528
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: lose two, And so you were like, Okay, I mean,

529
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: he's good enough to beat the dudes on the regional

530
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: scenes in Europe and that's not nothing, and he seems

531
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: like a nice guy, but how much more is he

532
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: than that? And then he just started stacking wins. Now,

533
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: he had that another stumble against Thiago Santos, but okay,

534
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: he took him three rounds and hey, Thiago Santo's is

535
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: a tough out for anybody else, and he just continued

536
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: to get better. I think people like it when you

537
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: have this kind of perseverance about you, thirty seven years

538
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: old doing what he did. Like he just always finds

539
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: a way to get better. I think people like that.

540
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: You know that late bloomer story. The other part about him,

541
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about the Charlot brothers, because while that's boxing,

542
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: they're very much the opposite of this. It always feels

543
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: like to me that Yan Belakhovich is not chasing outside validation, yes,

544
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: validation of his fiance and his coaches, maybe even there's

545
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: This is not true in Poland, but in the wider

546
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: EMMA community, it just seems like he's totally secure in

547
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 1: who he is and why he's on this journey, and

548
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: he's not tracing excuse me, chasing the adoration of large

549
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: crowds or big social media followings or you know, applause

550
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: from whoever is some kind of influencer in this world.

551
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: He just seems like he's on a martial arts journey

552
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: for himself. I think people really respond to that. You know,

553
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's one one way is right

554
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: or the other, but it's very much the opposite of

555
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: what Charlo's have been doing at Asania to a degree

556
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: as well, and for him it just seems to work.

557
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: I think the last thing I'd say in addition to

558
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: that about why all of this excuse me is working

559
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: for Yan is that it was it was just it's

560
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: it's not so much just the late blooming thing, although

561
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: that's a pretty key part of it. But I don't know.

562
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: There's another factor there that's sort of it's semi related.

563
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: And he is just a guy out there who he

564
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: brings you joy to watch, right, Don't you feel like,

565
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: how many times do you see somebody good or bad?

566
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: You don't have a connection, You don't. It doesn't change

567
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: your view of the sport. I mean, ultimately, like why

568
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: we watch sports is how the teams we like make

569
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: us feel.

570
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 3: Like someone was asking me.

571
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: I was talking about it with a production crew behind

572
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: the show, and they're asking me how I feel about

573
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: the Washington football team this season? Listen, man, I can

574
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: never root for another team, but they don't make me

575
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: feel very good. I don't get a lot of I

576
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: don't get enjoyment out of it anymore. I don't know

577
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Yan Blohovich, but it feels like you can watch the

578
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: journey he's been on and it makes you feel better

579
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: about you watching the sport. That's a very rare thing

580
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: in this messed up game full of bad actors, even

581
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: when they're really good fighters. He's He's a delight dude,

582
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: and I'm honestly thrilled for his success and I am

583
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: totally wrong and I missed the boat on it and

584
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Mia Culpla, I won't make that mistake twice.

585
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: Well, you should have missed the boat, Luke. To be honest,

586
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned he had that win one loose two thing going.

587
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: He also looked really bad against Jockaray, did just enough

588
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: to win in a fight that was supposed to be

589
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: his showcase. Let me call out John Jones after. It

590
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: was just sort of an every man win. But that's

591
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: the thing. He's Polish. Forrest Griffin to your point, right,

592
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: it's hard not to watch him and feel like that

593
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: could be me in there if I only had a

594
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: legitimate backbone and no cares in the world. But uh yeah, man,

595
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: I mean it really felt that good all along, and

596
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: he made dom Reis a great fighters nos look like mine, Luke,

597
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: So that's not a bad deal for him.

598
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's so funny, you know, it's like

599
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: you watch a guy like this. You mentioned the pretender

600
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: contender thing. That's a good way to put it. We

601
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: talked about Jason Rozario from the Charlo Fight. Guy that's

602
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: not supposed to be there. Dude, He wasn't supposed to

603
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: be here either. You know, if you had just watched

604
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: him in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, he'd be like, all right,

605
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: he's pretty good, but he didn't really start winning until

606
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and any kind of consistent bout over bout

607
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: way this was not I mean, if you had asked

608
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: me two years ago, who's the next light heavyweight champ,

609
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of names I would have come up with,

610
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: sure as fuck, wouldn't have been yon Belhovich. He was

611
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: not on that kind of a trajectory or that radar.

612
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: And you know what, here he is, Dude, what a

613
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: great story in mma. Like I just I feel so

614
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: good for a guy, by the way, never a promoter's favorite,

615
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: never handed an easy fight, never given the fast track,

616
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: never given the bonus that way. He got bonuses by

617
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: virtue of his performances. But I mean, he was never

618
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: the guy who was targeted for stardom, just a guy

619
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: who kind of slowly but surely took it. And not

620
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: for the crowd, although he is a quite nice gentleman.

621
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: But because I think he just likes martial arts. I

622
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: think he likes the journey. There's something so honest and

623
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: pure about it.

624
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Final point on that Luke, I was still calling

625
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: him jan Blockowitz up until like a year, So that

626
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: shows you that he was never in our crosshairs.

627
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: All right, So true? All right Texas to point three.

628
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: BC and I were there at the mohegan Son Arena

629
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: in Uncasville, Connecticut, the Charlo brothers putting on quite a show,

630
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: albeit in different ways. Part of two cards, a doubleheader.

631
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: We'll go to the first one, Sergei Darvianchenko losing via

632
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: unanimous decision to Jermal Charlo, the bigger one at one

633
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds. Interestingly, uh, the folks there in

634
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: charge of the career for Drvian Chenkos thing is gonna

635
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: drop to the one fifty four. I wonder if you

636
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 1: might fight another Charlo brother. But the question I have is,

637
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: and I'll start here, if I may be see what

638
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: Jamal Charlo proved. Now we know what he can get,

639
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: maybe a U Banks Junior fight if the stars aligned.

640
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Canelo's not out of the question, I suppose, although probably

641
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: not top of mind. I don't mean like what's next

642
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: in that sense, I mean what did he prove? Unlike

643
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: the Mahovich uh situation which we just described. The Charlo

644
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: brothers have been scratching and clawing for that outside validation,

645
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: which I don't begrudge them. I've done things like that

646
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: in my career as well. But to me, what they

647
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: proved is that the upper bound limit that the very

648
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: intense skeptics that they draw clearly need to move the

649
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: goalposts a little bit here. They are capable of much

650
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: more than their critics would let you believe. And that's

651
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: true really of anybody. But what I mean to say

652
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: is the Charlo's, if you read even the boxing media

653
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: to an extent, they are sort of begrudging in their respect.

654
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: They're good, they're athletic, they're talented, they work hard, but

655
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: they're not really that person. They're not really at that level.

656
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: They're not really that good, and if they did fight

657
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: someone on that level, you know, they probably wouldn't do

658
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: all that well. As we talked about on Saturday Night BC,

659
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: Jamal Charlo beat Derevianchenko better than Triple G or Jacobs,

660
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: Jacobs and Triple G getting a knockdown, but then not

661
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: having that sustained effort. Total comprehensive effort from Jamal Charlo

662
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: showing yes, he has the physical tools to compete, he

663
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: also has the smarts and the veteran skills at this

664
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: point in understanding the totality of the boxing experience to

665
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: get the job done. And I'm not saying he beats

666
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: you Banks Junior. Maybe he does. I'm not saying he

667
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: beats Canelo. This is not my point. My point being

668
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: is he has proved in this and what he earned

669
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: was that you cannot trust the skeptics to give you

670
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: an honest view of the true nature of what he

671
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: can do.

672
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: You can't ignore them.

673
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: But it just shows certain fighters illicit or even pro

674
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: athletes elicit an amount of criticism that is rooted in

675
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: something but is totally overblown in other ways. And I

676
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: think Jamal Charlow has shown that the critics are treating

677
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: him in that kind of way.

678
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Well, look, you know, maybe some of the critics wouldn't

679
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: give him the credit because you know, the Charlow's are

680
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: brash African American stars who take no crap. I don't know,

681
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: maybe some of that. But to defend the critics for

682
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: to a second, you know, you can't really anoint somebody

683
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: until you really see them in there against a contemporary,

684
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: a true elite, and that's what we had here in

685
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: derevin Chenko. Now, time will tell if dere Vinchenko was,

686
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, somewhat damaged goods from the hell he went

687
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: through against Glofkin, he didn't seem to be on Saturday night.

688
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: He gave a world class effort. He is you know

689
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: what we said he was coming in. Sergei dervin Chenko

690
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: is one of the best fighters in the world. I'm sorry,

691
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: you know, he's one of the elite middleweights. Whether he's

692
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: lost three title fights or not. He was the perfect

693
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: foil for Jamal Charlotte to have the chance to show

694
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: us everything that he's about. He just so happens that

695
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: he is the full package. So when he says before

696
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: the fight, I'm already the best middleweight in the world,

697
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: it's natural to be like, all right, bro, let's you know,

698
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: we gotta see it, right. You know, I really can't

699
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: give you any chance against Canelo until I see you

700
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: in there against someone comparable. Well, here's derevin Chenko, and

701
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: what you saw was such a full performance. Look for

702
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: the fact that Jamal, you know, according to compiybox I

703
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: said the stat a lot last week. You know, attempts

704
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: the least amount of punches for active middleweights. There was

705
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: always that concern that he would allow derivin Chenko to

706
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: have a certain place in this fight that maybe he

707
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: didn't deserve because Jamal was the bigger fighter. I wanted

708
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: to see him use the jab. He did exactly, just

709
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: that he controlled distance at such a expert level that

710
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: there really are no flaws in Jamal Charlo's game at

711
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty pounds, and there really are very

712
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: few fighters who are going to be able to deal

713
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: outright with that combination of speed, power, and athleticism. And

714
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: then when you add in the intelligence, the patients, the poise,

715
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: this is an absolute complete fighter. You know, I don't

716
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: know Canelo's future. I don't know his network future, given

717
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: all that's going on with his his own lawsuit and

718
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: the you know, the reports coming out that he may

719
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: settle with them, or he may look to go elsewhere.

720
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: Who knows. I don't even know if Canelo wants to

721
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: fight or can fight anymore at one sixty. But what

722
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: Jamal Charlo did on Saturday was everything you just said,

723
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: and he also made a Canelo fight both needed and

724
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: legitimate that you could make a strong case for him

725
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: to win. And I think when you take all things

726
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: considered on this night, Jamal Charlo, I think while this

727
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: was the Charlo's knight, I think Jermal was the big

728
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: winner on the entire papery card.

729
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, just let me go back to the

730
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: critics point, because I don't Again, I am a critic

731
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: to many things in the combat sports industry, so I

732
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: think there is a valuable place for it. But the

733
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: criticisms of the Charlows was not like, oh, well, let's

734
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: just see what happens. No, it was the opposite. It

735
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: was this dismissal before he had a chance. I would

736
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: watch them, and certainly, I've been gone from the boxing

737
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: industry for a long time. I've got a lot of

738
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: work to do to catch up to see what I missed.

739
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: I acknowledge it up front, I make no bones about it.

740
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: But I would watch tape on this guy and I'd

741
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, you're right, he does have to elevate

742
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: the level of competition before we can draw a fuller

743
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: picture of the totality of his abilities. What I didn't

744
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: get was the people being like, oh, there's no chance,

745
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Oh forget it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he.

746
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: Can't do it. They're not that good. They're just x

747
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: or y.

748
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, why are you putting those limits?

749
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: What are you seeing in the tape that I'm not

750
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: other than the competition needs to improve. I think that

751
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: was the point. There was a certain hostility to the

752
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: idea that they even belonged in that conversation or as

753
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: somebody who would be on that trajectory. And I think

754
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: that's what really bothered me. And to your point, the

755
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: way in which he beat dere Vyanchenko with the smarts

756
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: and the power, the combination of brains and brawn and

757
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: thirty years old, a lot of a ring time at

758
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: this point, it was it was a you know, masterful

759
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: is a bit of a strong word, but damn good

760
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: performance against a very very significant challenge. I thought he

761
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: passed with flying colors. Any final thoughts on that particular contest.

762
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, derrevin Chenko's future. Final thought here his manager Keith Conley,

763
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, you know, they talked about he'll probably

764
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: go down to one fifty four now and at age

765
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: thirty four with a dream to win a world title.

766
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense. Derrevin Chenko is a

767
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: small middleweight. He gave hell to the three best middleweights

768
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: of his era at the moment, Luke, even though one

769
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: fifty four is a much deeper category, right there are

770
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: Hella names up and down that roster that go from Harrison,

771
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: Laura Hurd, Jay Rock on and on to Dremel in

772
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: Banana as well. You know, he can win a world

773
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: title in this way class as long as you know

774
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: the punishment. He has a door he has absorbed. And oh,

775
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: by the way, let's not act like he did in

776
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: his face was a mess once again. He went for it.

777
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: He gave everything he had. You know, that's gonna catch

778
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: up to him one of these days. But he's gonna

779
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: be tough out for a lot of these guys at

780
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: one fifty four, and I think we can make some

781
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: fun fights with him moving forward. So it seems like

782
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: the right move.

783
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: So then let's talk in point four here about the

784
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: second of the two Charlow brothers, Jamel Charlo dispatching Jason

785
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Rosario phenomenal work, although there were times where the bout

786
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 1: was I would say Rosario had some success along the way.

787
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: Is there anything left for him? Brian for the smaller

788
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: of the two brothers, Jammel at one hundred and fifty four.

789
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: Now that he's got three of the four titles.

790
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a laundry list of names that I

791
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: just mentioned that I need to see Dremel fight. The

792
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: good thing is though, coming in. You know, our eye

793
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: test told us that from like a pounder pound perspective,

794
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: he was probably the best at one fifty four, and

795
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: he did nothing on Saturday to prove that wrong. Now

796
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: he's the power player in the division. He has three

797
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 2: or four belts, and boy do I want to see

798
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: him rematch Erickson Lubin take on his former you know,

799
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: sparring partner and stablemate, the great Arislandi Laara go in

800
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: there against a repackaged Jarrett Herd. I mean, there are

801
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: plenty Luke of big marquee fights to make. He's the

802
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: guy now. I think he's gonna deserve our pound for pound.

803
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: RESPECTIVE like to get in that maybe in another segment

804
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: this week and sort of lay that out to see

805
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: where the charlos belong in this. But he's legit. But

806
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: here's one tiny criticism I'll say, and we did say

807
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: coming in. If I look at the expectations of the

808
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: four main event fighters coming in. I thought derrevin Chenko

809
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: lived up to our expectations. I thought Jermal exceeded them.

810
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: I do think though, that Banana Rosario, who again we

811
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: said we're not really sure how good he is. I

812
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: think he certainly was underwhelming overall. And I think even

813
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: though Jermel dominated this fight, even though he scored three knockdowns,

814
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: even though he pretty much showed you who he is,

815
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: I do fear for Jamal still, Luke, that he does

816
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: not enough punches. That was a problem in two close

817
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: fights with Tony Harrison. Maybe that first one didn't need

818
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: to be a disputed decision if he had got out

819
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: there with his jab and really made a statement like

820
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: Jermal did against Devin Schenko, and if he had done

821
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: that in the rematch with Charlo. I'm sorry with Harrison.

822
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: Although Jermel did get a late knockout and it was spectacular,

823
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: that fight maybe wouldn't have been as close either. Jamel

824
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: is an incredible talent, just like his brother, an amazing counterpuncher.

825
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: You saw the three knockdowns, But Luke, you look at

826
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: the stats. Banana landed something like twenty four more punches

827
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: than Charlo. It's great to be efficient, but if you

828
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: do not knock out the fellow elite standing across from you,

829
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: and it just so happened that Rosario is not of

830
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: that ilk, the judges may not reward how great your

831
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: counterpunching was. You have to leave no doubt. Jamal learned

832
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: that against derevin Chenko. I kind of need Jermal to

833
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: learn that. It's a small criticism, but it may end

834
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: up being again a hard lesson learned like he had

835
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: the first time around against Harrison.

836
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: That's funny he and he by the way he committed

837
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: the same in the second Harrison fight. He was numerically

838
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: outstruck in that one for long portions of the fight, right,

839
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean early knockdown notwithstanding and of course the way

840
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: he stopped it. And then here the same thing in

841
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: the Rosario fight, where he was numerically outstruck until he

842
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: just waited for these giant, punctuated moments upon which to win,

843
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: and he in fact did win. So the question is,

844
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: to your point, right, what happens if Jay Rock gets

845
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: a crack, What happens if Herd re establishes himself. What

846
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: happens if, by the way Derrian Chako goes down to

847
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: one fifty four, and that's a fight that.

848
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: Makes it too you know, guys you know might put

849
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: it on him.

850
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: How long could he rest on these on this style

851
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: before it cost him one more point? Though, I don't

852
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: understand why you're surprised Rosario fought the way that he did.

853
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: To me, it's like that that was the way in

854
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: which he was dropped. I will acknowledge was surprising, especially

855
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: that stab to the body. I don't think there was

856
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: any acting. I think he got stuck with a hard shot,

857
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: but I mean the sort of loose style where in

858
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: moments he can apply good pressure.

859
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: He's got big power.

860
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: I was looking at some boxing trainers on talking about

861
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: it after the fact that they were saying his whole

862
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: stance was wrong, his whole approach to the game. There

863
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: was a reason or this particular fighter should say there

864
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: was a reason why he was so susceptible there and

865
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: why Charlo went the way he did. I don't know.

866
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: Like at twenty five we talked about a BC, he's

867
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: still coming into his own and he has this risk

868
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: style where at times he's going to overperform and at

869
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: times he's going to underperform. I don't know if he

870
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: really underperformed versus he was overmatched, but you're really surprised

871
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: at the way he fought.

872
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: It may have been fools gold with the Jay Rock fight.

873
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: You know, I did tease that coming in. I love

874
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Julian Williams. When he went in there against your guy

875
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Jarret Hurd and just out Jaren hearded him. It was incredible, Luke,

876
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: I mean, Jay Rock is a great fighter, but does

877
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: he have that major league level chin? You know, Jermal

878
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: found out that he didn't. Rosario did as well, But

879
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: you're right, Rosario was not technically sounding there. He didn't,

880
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: you know, elevate his game to the next level. And

881
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: his didn't seem to bother Jermel. So you know, it

882
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: is what it is. He's a player in the division now, Banana,

883
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: but I think this brings him certainly back down to earth.

884
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: All right.

885
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: And then, last but not least, let's circle back to

886
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: the UFC here if we can for point number five, bc.

887
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: Ha, what about this?

888
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: This is a funny one because you and I even

889
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: barely talked about this during fight. We're actually gonna talk

890
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: about it more here than we ever did. Connor McGregor

891
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: versus Dana White. Now we'll talk about Connor versus Pacciao

892
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: in just a second, but for the moment, let's get

893
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: to this. Connor McGregor posts essentially.

894
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: What do you want to say?

895
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: The dms from an Instagram chat they had where he

896
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: was asking for a series of things BC right, Diego

897
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: Stanchez fight, certain dates, getting back out there and you

898
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: see this sort of back and forth discussion that he

899
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: has with Dana he posted on social media. Dinga then

900
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: says it's one of the dirtiest things you can do.

901
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: It's a breaking of guy code. Although I suppose it

902
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: involves girls too, I don't know, anyway, and then Connor

903
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: took back to social media and he was like, bro,

904
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: code was broken when you said I didn't want to

905
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: fight earlier this year about justin you know, when you

906
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: lied about me that the code was off. Okay, what

907
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: the hell's going on here? BCEE.

908
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: I want to get into the code part of it. First,

909
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: does Dana do you know somewhat dirtbag tricks? Because he

910
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: has leverage as the promoter and the way he talked

911
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: to yes, you know what I mean, like like like

912
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: any boss who's sort of negotiating with you. It is so,

913
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: you know, in Connor's own version of guy code, I

914
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: could see where he feels like, you know, oh you

915
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: said this about me and it wasn't true. Now I

916
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: don't need you as much because I can get this

917
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: massive payday with the Pachio fight. So I'm just gonna

918
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: flip out the middle fingers and kind of slap you

919
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: around a little bit. But I actually back data on

920
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: this completely. I do think this is a violation of

921
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: human code. You know, it's like that on Twitter or

922
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: Instagram or whatever. You know, when you send somebody a

923
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: private message, it's private. You know what I mean In

924
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: posting that out publicly. You know we've seen it from

925
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: time to time. It's a total slap in the face. Yes,

926
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: you do speak in private differently than you do publicly,

927
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: usually for certain reasons. I don't think that means Hulkogan

928
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: is allowed to say the N word on a sex

929
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: tape privately and then when it goes public, we can't,

930
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, roast him, Yeah we should roast him, good

931
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: galor that's awful. I'm saying more like, you know, this

932
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Diego Sanchez conversation, that's promoter and fighter talking. There's different

933
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: negotiations and leverage going on with there. I agree with

934
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: Dana in this regard, but I want to talk about

935
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: something larger here, Luke. I mean, look, I am just

936
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: randomly happened to be wearing a Connor T shirt hair

937
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: and do have a couple of Connor posters lingering around why.

938
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: You know why? Because I love the man, will know.

939
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: But he is a big part of this MMA era

940
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: and everything he's a part of is fun and I

941
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: do miss that when he's not there. But the week

942
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: that you were gone and Rashad Evan slid in, we

943
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: did have this discussion. Does my and you know a

944
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: lot of fans and media are like this, does our

945
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: love of what Connor brings to the sport? Not our

946
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: love of Connor himself, but what he brings to the

947
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: sport cloud the fact that it's over, Luke, him being

948
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: a legitimate title contender, consistent fighter. Is it over? We said,

949
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: you know with Rashad that I think it is, and

950
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: I think I'm completely waking up to that fact based

951
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: on these recent things We've seen, the fact that he

952
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: wanted to after beating Cowboy main event against Diego Sanchez

953
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: in la, like, what the hell's going on here? And

954
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: then this subsequent decision to make what is just an

955
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: ill advised move to box a Manny Paquiel who still

956
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: frickin has it? Dude who just knocked down in schooled

957
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: unbeaten Keith Thurman last summer in one of the fights

958
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: of the year. And look, you know, I'd love to

959
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: test Manny Pacillo's bloodstream too. I don't know what the

960
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: hell is going on. I don't know how that guy

961
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: at age forty or forty one has calves that big

962
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: and is still that quick, But the point is he is,

963
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: and there are a lot of ways Connor McGregor can

964
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: make money, and the fact that he's so hell bent. Look,

965
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: you want to go free match Floyd again? Do it, dude.

966
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: I could even talk myself into it. We'll make it

967
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: rain all over the two of you in the ring

968
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: while you're boxing. Matty Pacio gonna knock you out cold. Bro,

969
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna do bad things to your brand. I don't

970
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: know what those guys in the Middle East are gonna

971
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: pay you, but it better be worth it, because now

972
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: you're kind of shitting all over Dana. Who is a

973
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: key to who you really are, Like, you can go

974
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: sell whiskey, you can go moonlight as a boxer. But

975
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if you don't come

976
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: back into that octagon every once in a while and

977
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: remind us who you are, you're nothing. You still need Dana.

978
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: So to crap on him to be flirting with this idea,

979
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: of course, Manny jumped all over at Manny, to his credit,

980
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: was like, I think I can help a lot of

981
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: you know people, COVID victims. I think I can donate

982
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: most of my purse. You know, whatever you want to

983
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: say about Manny Packew, he does some good gestures right there.

984
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: What the hell's Connor doing? It's over, Luke, the dream,

985
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: the idea. I thought twenty twenty was gonna be his

986
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: year to come back, reignite himself, build toward that Habib rematch,

987
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: and you know, see what's left of him after a

988
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 2: couple wild years of making money and getting in trouble.

989
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: But Luke Thomas, it is over. I have come to

990
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: terms with that. I'm gonna take this shirt off and

991
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: rip it up. We had a good run, but uh bro,

992
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to carry you out of that Middle

993
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: Eastern ring against the great Many Pakia well.

994
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: In the famous words from Stripes of Sergeant Hulka, lighten up, Francis,

995
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Listen? I am perfectly willing

996
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: to entertain the idea that these detours the Sanchez potential detour,

997
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: which I'm sure will not happen, and then to Pakia one,

998
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: which might. I guess we'll have to see. Neither of

999
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: these are what we had envisioned for him. Neither of

1000
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: these are what we would recommend. I don't think either

1001
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: of these. I mean, we might watch either or both,

1002
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: but it's not what we prefer out of him. And

1003
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: what kind of detour he's on, it is hard to understand,

1004
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: And so can I definitively say that your point about

1005
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: his days as a ranked sort of guy who's gonna

1006
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: compete against the best in any sort of a reasonably

1007
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: consistent clip, are those days over? I can't say that

1008
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: you're wrong. But let's go back here just a step

1009
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: if we can. First, is Dana white Wright that if

1010
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: you're having a private message with somebody on a social

1011
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: media platform or even text, and someone's like, hey, you know,

1012
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: if I'm having a discussion with you in private and

1013
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: in good conscience. Can you keep these details between us

1014
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: and you and you share that with the wider world?

1015
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: Is that a bit of a dirt bag move? It

1016
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: is a dirt bag move, Okay, there can be no

1017
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: denying it, and I won't defend it in that way. However, However,

1018
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: like every promoter in this sport, whether it's Bob Aram

1019
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: or Scott Koker or Dana White, all of these guys

1020
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: leak things to the media all the time to make

1021
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: any fighter they don't like, or rival promoter, or any

1022
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: entity they don't like look good. They want to make

1023
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: it look bad. All of them do it.

1024
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: So this idea.

1025
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: That the game, the game is the game we finished,

1026
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: the game is the game.

1027
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: Bro Okay, listen, you can't claim that what you're really

1028
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: interested in is private conversations when you're sharing private information

1029
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: to disparage people or entities that you don't like, and

1030
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: I guess it might be the game. We'll get it.

1031
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Welcome to the game. Connor didn't break any laws by

1032
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: doing this. He may have broken some understood agreement that

1033
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing written, but still he didn't break any lost

1034
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: and which.

1035
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: Brings me to this point.

1036
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about an organization in the Ultimate Fighting Championship

1037
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: that can't stand any criticism. That goes crazy when it

1038
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: happens with Dana White going after Dave Doyle from USA

1039
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Today MMA Junkie on Twitter for having an opinion that

1040
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: was frankly kind of innocuous. It was no big deal,

1041
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: and Dana White lost his mind. They put provisions in

1042
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: all their contracts that don't let you talk about pay

1043
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: if you're a fighter. We've been over this before, all

1044
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: the ways in which they try to muzzle any kind

1045
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: of information that they don't want to get out that

1046
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: could make them look bad. And then we're gonna have

1047
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: these situations where we're gonna go after Connor for leaking

1048
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: information that makes him look good?

1049
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: Would they be or not make him look good?

1050
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: But that's certainly furthers the conversation, I think a little

1051
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: bit in his favor, at least the way he sees it. Listen,

1052
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You can have all of these formal

1053
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: arrangements by which you can stifle speech, but in the end,

1054
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: if you try and bully everyone into a code of

1055
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: silence and a practice of not really sharing details, somebody

1056
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: is gonna come along that doesn't feel leverage to do that,

1057
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: and I don't recommend doing this.

1058
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.

1059
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I think Dana has a point in saying you probably shouldn't,

1060
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: but it ain't written down. It's absolutely something he can do.

1061
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: You can hear angry Dana for whatever in Dana's He's.

1062
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: Done nothing to me. But I don't understand somebody that

1063
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: tries to find every which way they can with every

1064
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: party they interact with to either stifle criticism or stifle speech.

1065
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: And then when someone leaks something that you don't like,

1066
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: now you have the temerity to say, well, you owed

1067
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: me the honor of not doing this. Dude, if you

1068
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: want someone to if you want someone, if you want

1069
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: someone to not share details, put it in writing that

1070
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: they can't, because otherwise, if.

1071
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: You share any of my DMS to you, including picks,

1072
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: you're done. First of all, Number two, it'd be one

1073
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: thing if Connor came out and was like, you guys

1074
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 2: don't understand when Dana and I talked behind the scenes,

1075
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: it's different. He said this and this, Well, then it

1076
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: gives Dana a chance to say, oh, that's crazy. That's

1077
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: the game, bro Okay, Dana.

1078
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: Is allowed to go out there and say false things

1079
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 1: or certainly things that are insulting and make fighters look bad,

1080
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: and they're just supposed to take it.

1081
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: No, they are allowed to do the same thing, Luke.

1082
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: Connor is allowed to go in front of the media

1083
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: and even lie with game. No difference. There's a difference

1084
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: between saying Dana won't pay me what I'm worth and

1085
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: actually showing the contract. Right, you don't do that.

1086
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to. You're not supposed to do that.

1087
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: That is, you're not But even if that wasn't.

1088
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: In the clause, Luke, it's it's breaking the rules of

1089
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: the game. I can tell you I think.

1090
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: Anything the rules that you imagine exists that don't exists.

1091
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: There's a human code, Luke. I mean, look, I Connor

1092
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: is guilty of.

1093
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: Con is guilty of.

1094
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: This could be our last episode if you want to

1095
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 2: break the code, all.

1096
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: Right, Connor is guilty of one thing, the indecency of

1097
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: respect for a private comment.

1098
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: That's it.

1099
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: But when you look at the life, fine, But when

1100
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: you look at the larger conversation about how many times

1101
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: the UFC uses their bully pulpit to define to the

1102
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: media their narrative.

1103
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: Can't use Connor he wants ownership of the promotion. He's

1104
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: not gonna get it. This is a different scenario. This

1105
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: isn't like some middle class fighter who's been you know,

1106
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: screwed over. There's a lot of those guys Connor like, dude,

1107
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: they've given them everything, right, I mean they've they've gone

1108
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: over and drenking whiskey with him.

1109
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: You know, they took a huge chunk of his purse

1110
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: from the Mayweather fight.

1111
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: Have they given him everything?

1112
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: Because you want to know why, because if they didn't,

1113
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: if he didn't bring them in as co promoter, there

1114
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: would have been a court battle, That's why, and the

1115
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 2: fight wouldn't have happened.

1116
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: Because insanely restrictive.

1117
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: That's not trying to protect the evil Empire here. I

1118
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: am saying, there are rules to this game, and you

1119
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: do have to play it the right way. Okay, when

1120
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: you play.

1121
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: A game for years like they do, of medium manipulation

1122
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: and to say the things that they've said about you

1123
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: can play it too, dude. But Connor is playing by

1124
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: a different rule book. That's it. Connor's playing by a

1125
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: different rule book. It's one you don't like, but it's

1126
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: one he has the right to play with and there's

1127
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: consequences to it. Maybe people don't share private information with

1128
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: him anymore. Fine, those are the rules he'll have to accept.

1129
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: But if you don't like the way Connor's playing it

1130
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: too bad?

1131
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: Do you want me to tell Jay right now everything

1132
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: you said about him this weekend? I'll do that. I'll

1133
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: show him the dms. Okay, Jay? Are you here? J are?

1134
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: Jay is so irrelevant? I didn't even mention him.

1135
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: Let me let me troll the fans and bring Jay in. Jay?

1136
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: Are you there at the aircraft carrier? What's going on?

1137
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Bro? I'm here at the aircraft carrier?

1138
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I got I got Ron Johnson waiting on Skype.

1139
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: Can we bring him in? Please? I gotta get to

1140
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: the bottom of this. I want Ron Johnson to show

1141
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: me the dms of why No Escapement never never made

1142
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: it all right? By the way, those dms would be

1143
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: very damning, very damning. Jay. Can you settle this debate?

1144
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: Who's right and who's wrong? There's a game, but there's

1145
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: a code, bro. Okay, come on, I don't know. I

1146
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: think when you're that famous, there's no code. Yeah, exactly, exactly,

1147
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Like they're not they're not buddies. They were you know it.

1148
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: It's good.

1149
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm with Luke.

1150
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: J would sell our soul on a second, Luke would.

1151
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: Here's the only question for Jay that matters.

1152
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: Jay.

1153
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Why do you do such hilarious stick before the show

1154
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: and then when the show comes on you act like

1155
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: this is mind Hunter and I'm interrogating you because you

1156
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: ate your neighbors.

1157
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: H I I try to like tone it down so

1158
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: Brian could look funnier. Okay, gotta go, Jay, Happy happy

1159
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: yoam comper to you and your tribe. Jay, Okay, to

1160
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: you and your people. Thank you right, well, listen out there, okay, okay, Look,

1161
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: you don't look you don't serve any masters, so you know,

1162
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: check your day out.

1163
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: I serve many masters. One is this MK brand. All right,

1164
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: But see we can't agree on this, but maybe we

1165
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: can't on the Pacquiao fight. Forget about the Diego Sanchez idea.

1166
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about that.

1167
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: But he's got from girthy, right, Diego's girthy bro.

1168
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: He certainly did not look in his best shape. So

1169
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Pacio fight. Honestly, you know, here's

1170
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: what kind of got me about it. I'm not even

1171
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: saying it won't happen. It actually might. We've talked about

1172
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: before that Pacio has been rejuvenated stage in his career.

1173
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: It's a terrible fight for Connor. It seems like on

1174
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: paper anyway, rather than it happening or not happening. Here's

1175
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: what caught my attention. It doesn't have nearly the same

1176
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: buzz as an idea of a Mayweather rematch or whatever. Like,

1177
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: people seemed like interested in it, but they didn't seem

1178
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: that interested in it.

1179
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: That did I misread that?

1180
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 2: No, you're right, because just like the first fight when

1181
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: Floyd was two years retired, let's not forget that, right,

1182
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: and Connor was at a point after the Alvarez win

1183
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: where you're like, I don't know, dude, maybe he could

1184
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: knock out this old guy. You know, we've seen the

1185
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: guy behind the curtain.

1186
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: Now.

1187
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: Now look to Connor's credit, he fought well enough in

1188
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: that Floyd fight that we would buy a subsequent celebrity

1189
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: excuse me, celebrity boxing type fight like this. But he's

1190
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: picking the wrong guy. He's picking a guy who still

1191
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: has it all right, the Floyd one would matter more

1192
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: to your previous points in other episodes. Man, he's not

1193
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: gonna sell this fight like Floyd would. Okay, you're not

1194
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: going on a four city international tour, and by the way,

1195
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: two of those four stops, I mean, there was genius

1196
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: level marking and performance are going on out there to

1197
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: sell that thing. It's not gonna happen with Manny will

1198
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: Care to a degree. But you know what, I'm more

1199
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: interested in. You see KSI said that he can definitely

1200
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: knock out Mike Tyson. Give me that kind of celebrity slop.

1201
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: I'll watch Mike Tyson knock out all these fools.

1202
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: All right, you're not interested? I mean, I guess. I look,

1203
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: we would obviously, dude, not only would we watch a

1204
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: paqi Al McGregor fight, we'd be there in attendance telling

1205
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: folks why it's not so bad the Friday before. I mean,

1206
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: we're absolute fame chasing hypocrites. But I just I'm sort

1207
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: of trying to Here's what I'm trying to wrap my

1208
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: head around. Why is it people don't seem to be

1209
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: as interested in it as you otherwise might imagine if

1210
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: they thought it's good for a million buys, I think

1211
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: we could agree with that. In hell, maybe even too.

1212
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: Maybe something like that I don't.

1213
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: Really know, not without a storyline. It's a million. But no,

1214
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: you're not getting too without a storyline. You known about Filipinos, Brok, What.

1215
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Does that say about this fighter? About Connor? I mean,

1216
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: maybe your point to start the initial conversation was correct

1217
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: that people are a little bit like Jesus. Dude, this

1218
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: is this is a weird detur that I don't know

1219
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: that I can get on. I'm not gonna ignore it

1220
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: because of the fame and you know so the car

1221
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: crash element to it. Do you think that this lack

1222
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: of interest again, relative lack of interest in the back

1223
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: you fight is evidence of your original thesis?

1224
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: I guess it must be.

1225
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: Well, dude, if this fight happens but doesn't sell that

1226
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: well and he gets knocked out, how is that even

1227
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: remotely good for his brand? You know what's good for

1228
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: his brand? Fight Tony Ferguson, Right, you know what I mean?

1229
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: Come back and be Look, we gave you the Cowboy One.

1230
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: We gave it to you, UFC gave it to you.

1231
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: They served it up. You hit a freaking home run.

1232
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: Come back now, get up, Get Kevin Lee, get somebody

1233
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: that We're like, all right, maybe that guy could beat you.

1234
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: Let's see, you know, come back, make it a pay

1235
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: per view main event. I'm sure there's enough money out there.

1236
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can go to Abu Dhabi and there's

1237
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: enough money out there to bring Connor in. Do that, Okay,

1238
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: get back in line to us believing that you're a

1239
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: real fighter, because that's how you make the money, that's

1240
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: how you bring the excitement when we think you're just

1241
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: some celebrity. At this point, we don't care. We don't care.

1242
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm stopped, I'm done. I'm taking the shirt off right now.

1243
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: Do you want to see you want to see my

1244
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: guy on, I'll take it off right now.

1245
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to that a little bit later.

1246
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: But time now for when we take questions from you guys.

1247
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: You leave them every Sunday on our Instagram page at

1248
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: Morning Combat. It's time for dms from dogs. All right,

1249
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: all right, I don't know that I got them from Uh,

1250
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: yes I did. Gaff sent them here. Okay, let's go

1251
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: here now. First question from oscill late wildly eighty seven.

1252
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: B See, there's a lot of speculation online about us.

1253
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: Right question, right, luc, that's not the right question.

1254
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: Bro, Well, that's not my fault. I read him in order.

1255
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of speculation online about Ada Signya's right peck,

1256
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: including some people saying steroid use. What do you think

1257
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: the explanation for it could be?

1258
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we can't not talk about this right. It's

1259
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: right in our damn face. So here's the deal. Do

1260
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: you remember when Juan Manuel Marquez, you know, it was

1261
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: at the end of his career in his late thirties,

1262
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: a Hall of fame career, a guy who won titles

1263
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: at like six third, He went up to welterweight to

1264
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: fight Manny Pacio, and he was jacked as shit, and

1265
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: he took his shirt off and he had backne like

1266
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: a mofo, And We're like, are we supposed to act

1267
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: like it's not there? Are we supposed to act like

1268
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: that isn't some giant warning sign. I'm not gonna say

1269
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: what you think I'm gonna say, because I don't know, Luke,

1270
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: I could go the root of you, which I am

1271
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: now pretty much believing in all of our heroes if

1272
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: they want to compete at this level, whether it's boxing, MMA, NBA, NFL,

1273
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: I don't care. You're you're probably dipping your hand. You know,

1274
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: into the black magic bag. It just is what it is, right.

1275
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was good enough for German track

1276
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: stars in the sixties, it's probably good enough for our

1277
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: heroes now, who are doing insanely great things in their

1278
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: late thirties. By the way, that seemed twenty years ago

1279
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: to be impossible. Thank you Cryo chamber and Keto diet.

1280
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: But you know, come on, let me ask you serious question.

1281
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: If you, Luke, if you got a skeptical hold on, bro,

1282
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm as skeptical seeing that, I'm sorry as I am

1283
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: bors shein know, just being ripped to the freaking gills,

1284
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: it gives you that same feeling.

1285
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: All right. I mean, here's the thing about it, with

1286
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: this interesting and intense focus, it's like, first of all,

1287
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: there were two medical doctors that came out with videos

1288
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: on YouTube. For whatever that is worth, they are licensed

1289
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: and practicing physicians. But they said there actually could be

1290
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: a number of explanations for it, and they went through it.

1291
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: One could be trauma because it was asymmetrical, although I

1292
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: saw some steroid users saying that they had asymmetric guy,

1293
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: I know at times, so you know how much of

1294
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: that is a factor. And there was another one I

1295
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: retooted yesterday. He listed all the ways in which this

1296
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: could happen. You have to ask yourself what the probability

1297
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: is of that neither of us are medical professionals. Would

1298
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: it surprise me if he, or out of sign, you

1299
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: or anyone was using something. No.

1300
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: What I began to read.

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: Literature that the scholars were doing on anti doping. They

1302
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: kept coming back to something, and at first I didn't

1303
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: understand what it's relevance BC. They would talk about the Olympics,

1304
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: and then its origin, and we'll talk about guy that

1305
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: founded it, and they kept saying that what he wanted

1306
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: was this ideal of sport as humanism, of amateurism, not

1307
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: as the way we understand it today, but of as

1308
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: an activity that was good for the soul, was good

1309
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: for social fabric, was good for certainly just as a

1310
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: person building exercise. Part of what goes into anti doping,

1311
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: certainly through the Olympics, which we've borrowed their system and

1312
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: then their punishment cycle, is this idea that what we

1313
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: should be doing should be good for ourselves, good for society.

1314
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: But what they've also done is complicated everything over the

1315
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: years by bringing in, especially through nineteen eighty four, this

1316
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: massive profit driven machine with sponsors and the Coca Cola

1317
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: spotlight and the Visa halftime show and you know everything

1318
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: else that goes into what you see there. They have

1319
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: utterly corrupted the first idea about what the Olympics, the

1320
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: modern Olympics, was supposed to be about. So when you

1321
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: do that, when you put that much money on the line,

1322
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: where people want to see huge ratings and they want

1323
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: to see larger than life figures, and they want to

1324
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: make sure that they can cash in if you're an

1325
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: athlete by being better than the next guy, because the

1326
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: reward between first and second is enormous, What do you

1327
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: expect rational actors to do? And if you're out asnia

1328
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: and again I don't know what the truth is, use

1329
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: your best judgment. If you want to think he used it, fine,

1330
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: I won't argue with you. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

1331
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: But if you're in there, had we not heard that

1332
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: if you fought in pride, it only made sense to

1333
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: use it if you knew the other guy across from

1334
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: you was out their juice to the gills as well.

1335
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: Do ladies and gentlemen, you need to wake up a

1336
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: little bit.

1337
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: This this idea that.

1338
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: Like people are bad because they use it. You might

1339
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: want people to obey the rules. You can't have sport

1340
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: without rules. I understand that, But you are conceptualizing, let

1341
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: me finish, you are conceptualizing a behavior that is absolutely

1342
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: rational from beginning to end, for money for career preservation

1343
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: and depending on what you're taking for injury for rehabilitation,

1344
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: thinking that this is some kind of evidence of poor

1345
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: character rather than just responding to the incentive structure that

1346
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: we have laid out for people. You're gonna keep running

1347
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: into this problem over and over and over again.

1348
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: If he used I don't give a fuck.

1349
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean, could he have like been doing a nice

1350
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: chess workout and strained a peck and it got a little.

1351
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, yes, apparently that's a reasonable Yes, Apparely that's possible.

1352
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. All I'm saying is I have come across.

1353
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: Maybe it's your influence on me, but I've come around.

1354
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: I mean, like, look, if Sylvester Stallone's gonna put out

1355
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: another Rambo movie and he's gonna be like, you know,

1356
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: sixty eight or seventy years old, shooting people and he

1357
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: takes your shirt off, he kind of wanted to be ripped, right.

1358
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: We are fully okay with these actors, you know, juicing

1359
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: up to the gills. I know that they're not competing

1360
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: against other humans. Remember when Stallone got stopped in the

1361
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 2: Australian airport and he had like enough h hgh and

1362
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: to like fill up like a van. I mean, like,

1363
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, like there's also here's a weird element to it.

1364
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: It's probably safer at this level for some of these

1365
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: guys to use that knowing like you said in Pride,

1366
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: the guy across from them is going to be coming

1367
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: for their soul and looking to you know, kill them.

1368
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's a while. Yeah. All I'm saying is uh,

1369
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: I hope did he get asked? Like I hope somebody

1370
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: who flew there, and I hopefully they didn't fly on

1371
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: like the UFC private plane. But was there any media

1372
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: members there who asked about it at all? To Dana

1373
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: or out of Sonia.

1374
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: And everyone pretends they don't see anything. Remember when I

1375
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: know that.

1376
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: You got to have a little bit of balls to

1377
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: do that, because you know, out of Sony could be

1378
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: like you mother effort, What are you trying to say?

1379
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: I hurt myself and you know I got injured. Whatever.

1380
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Look, you know it could go very poorly

1381
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: for you.

1382
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: You could lose, So you don't have to ask it.

1383
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: You don't have to ask in a nefarious tone. You

1384
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: have a clear change in your physical appearance. I don't

1385
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: know what the hell explains it. There are some bad

1386
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: explanations for it, but what is yours? Just tell us

1387
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: what happened, Like, it's not I'm not a medical fucking

1388
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: doctum that and is.

1389
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: He pulled to John Jones and was like, Luke Thomas,

1390
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't really like you that much.

1391
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know, I mean, you know, what would

1392
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: I do. It'd be the same thing that I've always done.

1393
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: I just okay, well then don't talk to me. But like,

1394
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: we can't have a conversation about obvious changes in people's

1395
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: physical now. He thought the same he always does. You know,

1396
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: he out smarted him.

1397
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: Speaking of nipples. And this is a ridiculous segue. But

1398
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: if a female fighter gets enhanced, which happens in this game,

1399
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: we're not allowed to talk about that for certain obvious reasons.

1400
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: It's it's it's not it's really I mean, it's it's

1401
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: not appropriate. Do you think there's a similarity there.

1402
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: No, because that's sexual body policing. This is different. This

1403
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: is you've had a weird change in your appearance, not

1404
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: a change in I mean, he thought just as well

1405
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: as he ever did. There was no change there. And again,

1406
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: there could be a totally innocent within the rules explanation.

1407
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: They were saying certain depression medicines can cause this kind

1408
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: of thing. Maybe he's been during the pandemic. He doesn't

1409
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about the fact that he's been on medicines.

1410
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: Like I said, there could be any number of explanations.

1411
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: It's just this idea. Oh oh my god, what if

1412
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: he was using Yeah, what if he was using huge

1413
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: amounts of them? Use It's a perfectly rational response. And

1414
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: the last thing I would say about this is BC.

1415
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get in my high horse, but I'm

1416
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: just trying to help folks. There.

1417
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: Bro I'm already there, Okay.

1418
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: I will ride a very delicate trot, not a full

1419
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: on sprint. I just want folks to understand something about this.

1420
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: Number one, we live in a total world of hypocrisy

1421
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: when we have way, way, way worse injury outcomes in

1422
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: American football. We have deaths at the high school level

1423
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: every year, and they just absolutely tolerate pedus and no

1424
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: one seems to care.

1425
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: More.

1426
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: To the point, I was told that when you saw

1427
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: it was going to get here, they were going to

1428
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 1: make the sport safer. The sport looks safer to you,

1429
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: doesn't look any safer to me. I have never seen

1430
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: an entity in my life claim as much responsibility, claim

1431
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: as much accolade without proving any effectiveness at what they

1432
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: are doing whatsoever. Then you saw to and I'm the

1433
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: bad guy for asking, how do we know what you're

1434
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: doing works? I'm the asshole for that. I have to

1435
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: prove that I work. I have to prove the CBS

1436
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: that I'm worth it. So do you. Brian Campbell Usada

1437
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: has to do this and they do nothing.

1438
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: To start proving that. By the way, Yeah, but you know,

1439
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: I would have liked it's weird. But I would have

1440
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: liked if Izzy addressed it or somebody asked him. And again,

1441
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: even if he was lying, I would have taken that

1442
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 2: line and say, Okay, at least we addressed the large

1443
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: asked Ariola in the room, okay, thank you?

1444
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: All right. With that in mind, we move along now

1445
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 1: to question is there something to be said, by the way,

1446
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: from Pastor Blinn a better name.

1447
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: All right, a man of the cloth.

1448
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 3: I love this, Yeah, probably pastor in the Church of Satan.

1449
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: Though, is there something to be said about Reyes having

1450
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: his three brothers as his cornerman for this fight? Didn't

1451
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: seem to have anywhere near the same focus and intensity

1452
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: during fight week compared to the Jones fight. That's actually

1453
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: an interesting question, BC. What do you think?

1454
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: It's a fair question. It's hard for us to have

1455
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 2: any idea. No, And I can't remember who his coach

1456
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: was before that, do you? Offhand?

1457
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: Uh? It was Joe Stevenson, Joe Daddy, Wow, Daddy?

1458
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I mean, it's certainly something

1459
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: for him and his close inner circle to look at

1460
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: and address. Again, I don't think he made a major

1461
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 2: error here. I'm not necessarily saying his game plan sucked.

1462
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: He got crunched to the body twice with the same strike,

1463
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: and then he got taken apart with with you know, intelligent,

1464
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: sneaky counter shots. You know, I'm not really sure what

1465
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: else to say. He didn't look as sharp as the

1466
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: John Jones fight, which is why I sort of concur

1467
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: that maybe there was some you know, letdown of natural.

1468
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: Can't stop it focus here. I mean, obviously this was

1469
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: a title fight. Who you know, why wouldn't you be

1470
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: coming in at your best? But again it's not John

1471
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 2: Jones and you're the you're the favorite coming in. I

1472
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: don't know if we can blame that on the brothers,

1473
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: but you know, he'll have to figure that out. Luke,

1474
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: that's not for us to speak of the show.

1475
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't want to. I don't want to,

1476
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying it was good or bad

1477
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: because it's just too hard to know from this distance.

1478
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: The one thing I think we can say is as

1479
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: a reminder to everybody, dude, never forget they're fighting at

1480
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: weird hours in the morning. You know what did that

1481
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: do for him? Because certainly it was a weird hour

1482
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: as well for beyond Bolhovich. But he's coming from Europe,

1483
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: so it's not gonna be necessarily as much of a

1484
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: big change, although it's a big change for him too.

1485
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to suggest her. I don't want to

1486
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: say that. That's the thing is, every time you bring

1487
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: that up, it's like, oh, you're saying that's why Bulhovich won.

1488
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: It's not.

1489
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: Blovich was just so much better that night.

1490
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out, I think when you're competing at

1491
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: weird hours, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna get some weird differences

1492
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: at times. Always worth keeping that in mind. All right?

1493
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: From at Saint John Underscore ca BC, Who do you

1494
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: wanta the Charlow Brothers? I guess who do you want

1495
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: to see the Charlo Brothers up against? Next? Be the matchmaker?

1496
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1497
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: All right?

1498
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: Let's talk Jermel first. At one fifty four of the

1499
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: three titles he owns Ericson Lubin did secure the WBC mandatory.

1500
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: The reason why I wouldn't mind that next is even

1501
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: though Lubin, you know, he looked both good and bad

1502
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: against Goshet to win that fight. Jermale knocked Lubin out

1503
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, and I do think Ericson Lubmin has

1504
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: improved a lot. You have that backstory. That would be

1505
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 2: a very fun fight to make next. But I can't

1506
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: stress this enough unless you know some sanctioning body is

1507
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: going to push some name you've never heard of from

1508
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: Europe who's completely underserving. There are nothing but banger fights

1509
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: you can make for Jermel from here on out at

1510
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 2: one fifty four. I would love a Tony Harrison trilogy

1511
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: down the line. But Luke, my specific fight I want

1512
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 2: to see the most for Jamel is Arislandi Lara. He's

1513
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: still got a lot left in his late thirties. He

1514
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: has to fight more than he used to because his

1515
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: legs are slowing down. And they used to both be

1516
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 2: trained by Ronnie Shields before Jermel left to join forces

1517
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 2: with Derek James, and they both said they are more

1518
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 2: than willing to fight each other. They've sparred in the past.

1519
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: I think that is the perfect fight. That would be

1520
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: what look really good on Jermel's resume because Arislandi Lara

1521
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: has been, you know, outside of the time when Canelo

1522
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,919
Speaker 2: came in and beat him in that disputed fight. Arislandi

1523
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: has been the class of this division for a decade.

1524
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: So the Canelo fight was a little bit boring. Literally,

1525
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate is that it is a fun fight.

1526
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 2: What what fight.

1527
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 3: Uh, charlo versus Laura.

1528
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 2: It would be now. It has the potential to be

1529
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: now because if you look at Arislondi Lara in the

1530
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: past three four fights, he's had some killer brawls right

1531
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: against Jared Hurd against Kastanio that fight we were at.

1532
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he's slowing down, so he has to fight

1533
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 2: now with Jamel though being a low punch output counterpuncher. Yes,

1534
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: there is potential here that this is some kind of

1535
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: slow chess. But I will say this, when you're someone

1536
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 2: like Jamal who we are now ready to potentially throw

1537
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: pound for pound claim at, we're now saying you are

1538
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: the king of the division. I need to see him

1539
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,520
Speaker 2: against every style. I need to see him against sluggers.

1540
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: Guys like Jared Herder are going to be up inside

1541
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: of him all the time. I need to see him

1542
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: against guys who can potentially out boring him in a

1543
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: chess match. So just for me as the hardcore fan,

1544
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: I want to see that fight very much. Who do

1545
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: you want to see Jermal take on Luke Well?

1546
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: The one, given the PBC realities that appears to be

1547
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: the likeliest is christ You Banks Junior, So give me that, yeah,

1548
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: which is not a bad fight, by the way, because

1549
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: he's got a folks to mean, I realized this he

1550
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: was we covered together BC in the last fight before

1551
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: this one that we were together at the Brooklyn Barclay

1552
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: Center when Garcia fought redcatchu U Bex was on that card.

1553
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: He's got a big mouth. He's got a very very

1554
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: big mouth. He loves right hand too, yeah, big right

1555
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: hand out. He's got a sort of our weird interesting

1556
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: boxing style too. So that's not the certainly far from

1557
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: the worst fight you could make. It's kind of interesting,

1558
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: but I'll be honest, I kind of feel like getting

1559
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, young, thirty in his prime against Canelo.

1560
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: I know Canelo's got his hands full with his own

1561
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: and everything else. I'm just speaking in a world I

1562
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: to me again, what I favor Charlo to beat Canelo? No,

1563
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: I would not.

1564
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 3: I think I would favorite Canelo to win.

1565
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: But what I favorite Charlo to give us a really fun,

1566
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: interesting fight that could pull in a lot of by

1567
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: the way, demographically lot diverse crowds together to watch. That

1568
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: would elevate the profile of the Charlie Blows in a

1569
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: way that I think it deserves to be elevated. I

1570
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: think this pay per view also went a long way

1571
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: towards doing that. To me, that's I mean, I'm really

1572
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: excited by the you know, knock on wood. Maybe the

1573
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: gods are smiling upon us.

1574
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: We can get it yeah real quick.

1575
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: You Bank is such a great trash talker, and they

1576
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: already hate each other. The fact that time last year

1577
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 2: when Jamal Charlow told me to fuck off and hung

1578
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: up on me on my podcast was because I mentioned

1579
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: you Bank's name too many times. You Bank's a great,

1580
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: flashy guy like his dad. And he now has Roy

1581
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: Jones Junior in his corner, which is very interesting because

1582
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: you Bank not a traditional boxer. Other trainers have tried

1583
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: to make him one. Roy Jones understands this is an

1584
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 2: athlete in front of me who does weird things. I

1585
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: want to see what that equation leads to. And there's

1586
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: also Demitrius Andreid. He does fight for his own but

1587
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: Lucas he just been looking on. Nobody wants to fight him, right,

1588
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 2: he was out for promotional reasons for a while. Not

1589
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: like if they could just make that work, that's a

1590
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: critical star on Jamal's resume. If he could beat Andred,

1591
01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 2: he's world class.

1592
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 1: So then we go to Neon Young. Do you agree

1593
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: with Israel's idea to doc fighter pay at ninety percent

1594
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: for missing weight? I gotta tell you I don't. I

1595
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: am not averse to the idea that we have not

1596
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: used enough effective penalization to deter missing weight. I'm open

1597
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: to that concept, but I gotta tell you, BC, taking

1598
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: these guys don't make enough money as it is, taking

1599
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: ninety percent of someone's purse. I understand why Atasania was

1600
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: so heated about this, and I respect it, I really do.

1601
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: I think that you know, you put yourself through that

1602
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: and your opponent doesn't, and then you get certain advantages

1603
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: in a fight and you're already not fighting for that

1604
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: much and you're on these crazy schedules and you've been

1605
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: away from your family. Yeah. Man, it's it's infuriating.

1606
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 3: It must be.

1607
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: There is some evidence, and garrym Cruz of MMA Fighting

1608
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: has looked into this. I believe it's the Shooto organization,

1609
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: or maybe it's Jungle Fight in Brazil, where they'll take

1610
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: a certain mind minitary penalization and then if you go

1611
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: beyond that, whatever the rules may be, they start taking

1612
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: points away from you in your fight, so you'll start

1613
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: the first round with the maximum amount of points you

1614
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: can get is nine, not ten. And they've asked like,

1615
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 1: what has been the effect on that? Has it reduced

1616
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: the amount of uh weight, you know, failure, catastrophes, There

1617
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: is some evidence to suggest that it has. Has it

1618
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: made the fights, you know, go all to draws because

1619
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: you're already taking a point in the way that a

1620
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: referee mightn't so you end up that way. No, not necessarily,

1621
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: you get a couple of them a little bit more,

1622
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: but not dramatically. So to say, there is some evidence

1623
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: bc to indicate that maybe taking points from a fighter

1624
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: in addition to the monetary fine, if it gets bad enough,

1625
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: that actually is something I might be in favor of.

1626
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not against the idea of making more of

1627
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: a penalty for what is he is saying to fully

1628
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: dissuade you from getting in that gray area where, like,

1629
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: you know, do I want to kill myself over this

1630
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: hour or can I just take the penalty and have

1631
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: a better chance to win. You never want to see

1632
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 2: anybody get in an advantage from doing something wrong. But

1633
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: to your point, they're already making sometimes just enough to

1634
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: pay off training camp. So not everyone's out there to

1635
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: do this. Some people, you know, they have perfectly legitimate

1636
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: reasons why they didn't make weight. Maybe just cancel the

1637
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: fight if you don't make weight, promoters won't want that.

1638
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: There are scenarios in which that would really suck, but

1639
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: you know, maybe avoid any kind of advance. You don't

1640
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 2: make weight, you're not gonna get paid for the fight

1641
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: to begin with, so well, let's don't.

1642
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm not favor of that either, because let's clarify something.

1643
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: The reason why you don't want to go too heavy

1644
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: handed with the punishment is that if you create an

1645
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: incentive structure for you to not missweight because the penalty

1646
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: is so strong, then what you're gonna get is people

1647
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: desperate to do it, and they're gonna cut weight in

1648
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: advisable ways. Now, if the UFC is monitoring them and

1649
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: not letting them get to that point, then that's not

1650
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: really something that you necessarily have to worry about. But

1651
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: now you have a situation where a guy cut as

1652
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: much weight as they medical staff let them, and now

1653
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: they only have ten percent of their purse. This is

1654
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: not an effective way to manage the problem in my view.

1655
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: You have to give them some kind of incentive to

1656
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: make him feel it. But what you don't want to

1657
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: do is either end up with poor fighters who couldn't

1658
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: cut any more weight than they were allowed because of

1659
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: the rules, or they cut so much goddamn weight that

1660
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: the end of the fight in a dangerous kind of scenario. Again,

1661
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,839
Speaker 1: I understand that thirty percent feels like we're not doing anything. Okay,

1662
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: we can do more, but let's do it in a

1663
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: way where we're not chasing extremes.

1664
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: I think that's a.

1665
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: Waiting for a day when we fully wake up on

1666
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: weight cutting, and unfortunately usually takes like deaths or loss

1667
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: of money for fights falling apart for someone to even

1668
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: think about this. But let me give you, for example,

1669
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: who will say for our Javez Junior, who's a train wreck.

1670
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: He actually fought last Friday on his own, and they

1671
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: got like no fanfare to his zone, put out a

1672
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: Spanish only broadcast. He ended up doing junior things, which

1673
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: is he fought and nobody got caught and quit and

1674
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 2: lost on the scorecards. But when he was actually quote

1675
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: unquote good for that short season, Luke, the only really

1676
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: redeemable skill he had which made him quasili and a

1677
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: title holder was that he could rehydrate insane amounts after cutting.

1678
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: He'd make one sixty and then he'd get up to

1679
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: like cruiserweight level and he just walk Dudes down, go

1680
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: to the body, lean on them, and out big them.

1681
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 2: And why don't we just gonna get to a point

1682
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: where you have certain we already have like in boxing,

1683
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: like a thirty day weight check, where if if you're

1684
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: not in a certain window the fight, you know, you

1685
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: can't continue. I've always said the only way to really

1686
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: fix weight cutting so people don't attempt extreme things is

1687
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: have like ten or twelve of those have a weight

1688
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 2: check two weeks out, one d.

1689
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: Wellfout California system.

1690
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: Every day into all the way to the point where

1691
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: you check them like an hour before in the locker room,

1692
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: so that it's actually impossible to go down to a

1693
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 2: weight class that your body really doesn't belong in. I

1694
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: think you would eliminate the you know, extreme, you would

1695
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 2: eliminate the health protocol that is the problem here. And

1696
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: I know you're saying, well, what about those people who

1697
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: are not big enough for a higher wake? It just

1698
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: is what it is, all right, you gotta find that

1699
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: you're comfortable weight that. I don't know, maybe that's the logical, look,

1700
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 2: maybe's two hot And.

1701
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 3: The last thing on this BC.

1702
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: You know understand there is a natural tension between weightcutting

1703
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: and the number of weight classes. You know, you start

1704
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: having weight classes fifteen twenty pounds apart, you're gonna have

1705
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: more of these problems that by itself, no one solution

1706
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: fixes everything, and I think folks keep looking for one

1707
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: totalizing solution to the problem. It's not that, but I'm

1708
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: with you. More weigh ins. People always say hydration testing, Oh,

1709
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: one does it and it works. Let me be clear

1710
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: about this. There is no evidence, which I'm not saying.

1711
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's not true, but they have not

1712
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: presented clear, verifiable, comprehensive evidence that what they do works.

1713
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 2: So it's something in the is that it was the

1714
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: most watched card in the history of global television I've

1715
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 2: never seen.

1716
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean people just promoters can say something and people

1717
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: just repeat, oh, well, they do hydration testing and it works. Motherfuckers.

1718
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: You have no idea if it works none.

1719
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: Do you remember when they did that COVID money concert

1720
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 2: to raise money and Shatri decided to stream it on

1721
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: like the One network, and then that pressure release came

1722
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: out that it was like, I mean, come on, bro.

1723
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: And they claimed like Lady Gaga was part of what

1724
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: they were. I mean, it's just like, you mean, these

1725
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: people who make totally false claims all the time. They're

1726
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: the ones who figured out weight cutting. Okay, all right,

1727
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: I mean maybe they did, but we have no evidence

1728
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 1: that they did. All right, last, but not least from

1729
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: Mark Menji, what was the grossest thing you both ate

1730
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: and drank all week? And who showered less? How many

1731
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: times did you shower? Be see?

1732
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: I did shower daily, but it did get gross and

1733
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 2: sweaty doing the room service diaries in your non air

1734
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 2: conditioned room with the you know grossness. All look, I

1735
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 2: don't get I'm not here to rip the Mohican son.

1736
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic hotel.

1737
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: They to take care of us.

1738
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: But they did not clean our rooms every day. I

1739
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: think it was part of their COVID protocol. And I

1740
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: got a little it got a little gross in there.

1741
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: It smelt bad. There was pizza boxes and food all over.

1742
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: What did I eat? That was the good? The So

1743
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 2: we had a very We stayed in the second dairy

1744
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: hotel tower there, so it was a much smaller menu,

1745
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: uh in access to the you know, room service kitchen,

1746
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: and we were some days we were forced to eat

1747
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: room service. I had one of those buffalo chicken wraps

1748
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: in which the buffalo sauce. The heat was just jacked.

1749
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 3: Up and had it too. It was too much.

1750
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: I craped for a lot. There was a lot of it.

1751
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: I had a Yeah, I blew the room out and

1752
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: then you know, you can't. You know, it travels with

1753
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: air freshener. I can only spray so much cologne in

1754
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: the air before you know. I don't, Luke, you like

1755
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 2: to smell yourself. But that was just it was.

1756
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: It was gross. Well, I sat to report. I did,

1757
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: in fact, shower every day, So that was a problem

1758
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: for the question. In terms of the grossest thing I ate.

1759
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: I had half a ruben sandwich, fell asleep and in

1760
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 1: the morning I forgot to refrigerate it, and I ate it. Anyway,

1761
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: the second half no problem.

1762
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: All right, could we let's let the truth be told here? Okay,

1763
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: here's Luke would do. Every single time we would record

1764
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: a room service diary, I'd come in and he'd be like,

1765
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: hold on, room service is gonna be here in a second,

1766
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: and he'd order a full on hot meal and I'd

1767
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 2: be like, well, dude, bro, you want me to give

1768
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 2: you like hero, take time to eat it. We don't

1769
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: have to record right now, and he'd be like, no, no, no,

1770
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: I'll get to that later. And then you would eat.

1771
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 2: You didn't have a microwave in your room, and you

1772
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 2: would eat like a hot food like two hours later

1773
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 2: cold and you're like, it's just the way I like it.

1774
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, got a little too cold, but I usually

1775
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: don't like it as hot as they serve it, so

1776
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: I would have. I did have. I had the salads

1777
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: before I went to bed. I wouldn't wake up and

1778
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 1: eat a salad that was left out, but I did

1779
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: eat a half a ruben sandwich that was left out overnight.

1780
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 3: I did do that.

1781
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: That was hungry. Go fuck yourself, all right, Well with

1782
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: that grossness, BC, take it away.

1783
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: Good sir, all right. You know what we do in

1784
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: these parts. We circle the globe high and low for

1785
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the ugly, and combat sports and beyond.

1786
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: Please it's cold. Can we run the thing? J Can

1787
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: you run the thing? The thing where the guy goes Yeah,

1788
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: it's really weird. All right, it's called have you seen

1789
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: the ship? Let's start with UFC two fifty three. Luke,

1790
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: you referenced it earlier, The wild antics of your guy

1791
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: out of Sonya. Wow, somebody was pointed out that the

1792
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: tank Abbott did this in an early UFC fight, but

1793
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: not this, like.

1794
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: Didn't know the tank abbot was worse. Tank Abbot brutally

1795
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: knocked out. I think it was John Motua if memory serves.

1796
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: And then when the guy is like having a seizure

1797
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 1: on the ground, he told the crowd with the microphone

1798
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: in his face that it made him sexually aroused.

1799
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 2: People think, though, once the camera went off of Room

1800
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: Service Diaries, that this was us Luke, and that is

1801
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 2: not true. I can report on that this was basically

1802
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,839
Speaker 2: during room service Diaries for fox sake, out of Sonia.

1803
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: What didn't stop here with the grossness. He approached Costa's

1804
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: coach Eric Albera Sine and did you see this thing

1805
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: where he did the yeah yeah, and then he yelled

1806
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: I will come all over. Yeah. That was you know,

1807
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: I did defend him earlier and say I like brashness,

1808
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: but that was a little far Luke. That was a

1809
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: little uh.

1810
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah's Albert scene, who by the way, is a great guy,

1811
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: Captain America's He told him that we're still coming from Volkanovsky,

1812
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: is what he said. And then and then style Bender

1813
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well I'm gonna come all over you.

1814
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

1815
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: Who is that? Who he coaches? Sahudo? Who else?

1816
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 3: The pit Bull brothers?

1817
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: Ah Yeah, I know.

1818
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

1819
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 3: I love this guy.

1820
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: He wears glasses that end up getting him mocked a

1821
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: little bit. He is a brilliant coach and a sweet person.

1822
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 1: I actually really like him a lot.

1823
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Your favorite coach is Eugene bear Man. True or false?

1824
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't I've never met Eugenie in person, so I

1825
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: can't say yes. I'm gonna say My clubhouse leaders are

1826
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: Brandon Gibson and Eric Nickxic.

1827
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: I like them a lot.

1828
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: Remember that dude who used to coach for Team Faber,

1829
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: the Asian guy? What happened to him? Buckholtz? Whatever?

1830
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh Master Tong? He went back to Thailand?

1831
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: All right, all right, there's what I did like from

1832
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: Atosania and Crew Loop. There ain't no party like a

1833
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: city kickboxing party. Did you see the celebration when Adasania

1834
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: took the cameras with him down the hallway and back

1835
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 2: to the makeshift locker room inside this thunderdome. Luke, this

1836
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: is what I was hoping and expecting when we got

1837
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: off the set of the Showtime intermission stage from our

1838
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 2: team here at Malca, but this was not the vibe.

1839
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: I would have loved this. They're all doing bushwhackers and stuff.

1840
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: I would have went nuts for this.

1841
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: This is great. Yeah, I've never been greeted this way,

1842
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: and now I'm I didn't know that I needed to be,

1843
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: and now I'm sad about it. Yeah, next time I

1844
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: see you, if I see you, if I see you

1845
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: next month, which is a possibility, we have to greet

1846
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: each other this way.

1847
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: This is great. Shout out to all those guys. There

1848
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: was some other weirdness this week, Luke, I don't even

1849
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 2: know this guy's name. Who was this undercard fighter during

1850
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: the faceoffs who no sold Dana's handshake and then just

1851
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: did some weird old school kung fu karate type stuff.

1852
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: What is it?

1853
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Duke, you are so painfully white. Jesus Christ.

1854
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: He's doing a hakka. He's from New Zealand. You fucked.

1855
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 3: Don't you understand that?

1856
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 2: What do you expect? I'm cultured too? Hakkas? Luke? I mean,

1857
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 2: come on, I've.

1858
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: Never seen the all blacks do it.

1859
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: No. No, I have many, many black friends, but no, Luke.

1860
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: No, all blacks is the name of the New Zealand

1861
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: rugby team, not because they.

1862
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: Are actually okay, but who is this guy? It was weird? Okay?

1863
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: You like Shane Young, He's from New Zealand.

1864
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 3: He fights for City Kickboxing.

1865
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 2: He got vic he got sent to hell By.

1866
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got he got, he got whooped, he got whooped.

1867
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: But it was he was doing the hakka?

1868
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 2: True or false? Did Dana call him kid afterwards?

1869
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: Uh? He calls ninety year old people kids, So I'm

1870
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 1: guessing that's all right.

1871
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: We also got a little bit of bingo here in

1872
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 2: the Costa Adustania face off. Were you down with Paulo

1873
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 2: bringing the white belt and trying to uh while he's

1874
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: wearing a black one and then soul is he by

1875
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: throwing it? Did you like this? Luke?

1876
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it, Like neither of them are a

1877
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: black belt?

1878
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: And what Now? Do you believe Dana's claimed that this

1879
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: was the most watched face off in UFC history? It

1880
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 2: sounded a little Shatre esque.

1881
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, I don't.

1882
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean there might be some way to define it

1883
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: where it is like based on this way, which if

1884
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: you defin metrics eighteen to thirty four and a live window,

1885
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, maybe like that, but like overall, no, I

1886
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: don't believe that. However, I will say this. You go

1887
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: through the trending YouTube sections yesterday and even today filled

1888
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: with UFC two fifty three contents, so I have no

1889
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: doubt UFC had a big pay per view hit on

1890
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: their hands.

1891
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 2: All Right, this is the moment of the week for me.

1892
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: Luke.

1893
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: Did you see Joanna, my girl boogie Woman going sick

1894
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 2: for Yon Blojowitz winning the title. Luke, she's dropping f bombs.

1895
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: She's going nuts. Look at the passion and intensity right there, Luke,

1896
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 2: you down. I know you got any feels on this.

1897
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: You're catching anything, Luke.

1898
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, Brian Campbell, I don't like you, so I'm not

1899
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: gonna answer your question.

1900
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 2: Luke, she is feeling it. I want what she's having.

1901
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 3: Luke.

1902
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, look at that year.

1903
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: Actually you're wrong.

1904
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 1: This is actually after watching episode three of Room Service Diaries.

1905
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh God, one day you'll forgive her, Luke. She's she's

1906
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, she's No.

1907
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: I definitely won't. I definitely won't.

1908
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: All Right, all right, we'll have to. We'll have more

1909
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: on this conversation on our Patreon show. Thank you. All right, Luke,

1910
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: let's move on here. The person who I believe who

1911
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: sent you to hell the best this week was former

1912
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: UFC fighter Dean Thomas, who tweeted out that Luke Thomas

1913
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 2: always reminds me of Michael J. Fox's father and teen Will. Luke,

1914
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: this was the burn of a lifetime. I'm glad that

1915
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: you playfully accepted it. But can we show the footage

1916
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: of what Dean was talking about here? About old Luke?

1917
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: This was such a great eighties reference, Jay, do you

1918
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 2: have the reference counter to throw out here?

1919
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: And uh, if you didn't see the tweet, he was like, you, Larry,

1920
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,839
Speaker 1: that's me right there that I look like the dad

1921
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: in teen Wolf.

1922
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: And our guy on Twitter he calls himself the meme guy.

1923
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: At Joe Jaggy, that's Jaggy with two g's and I.

1924
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: He did the work force. There we go. Remember we

1925
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: used to do that thing?

1926
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: Jay?

1927
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 2: Thank you? Can you advance the slide? Jay? Thank you

1928
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: to Joe Jaggy for No, that's not the one.

1929
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

1930
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: That's not the one.

1931
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: This is awesome.

1932
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: That's not the one, Jay, Jay, give me the one.

1933
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:17,879
Speaker 2: There we go, Dude, it's a it's a dead it's

1934
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: it's it's your twins right there.

1935
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: Look at Honkey Kong right here, buddy, I mean.

1936
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 2: You are if you are well versed on teen Wolf.

1937
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 2: Joe Jaggy, the meme guy, took it one step further.

1938
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 2: He said, I was giving him styles vibes. You remember Styles,

1939
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 2: Michael J. Fox's best friend in that movie, the guy

1940
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 2: who wrote on top of.

1941
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: The van, I don't, I don't.

1942
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: This is Luke. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. Okay, so you

1943
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 2: be all right. What we meant to do there was say,

1944
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 2: if you guys think the Man, the Myth, the web

1945
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 2: Scream could be outdone on any of this meme making,

1946
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 2: you're wrong us inspired by new Luke's new choice of glasses, Luke,

1947
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: this is as good or better than anything he's done.

1948
01:27:58,680 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: This is great.

1949
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: That is I gotta tell you that made my day.

1950
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: That made my because I've been the butt of jokes

1951
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: and that's okay, that's part of the show. But every

1952
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: once in a while, pat on the back makes you

1953
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: feel good. And me being an insane man from the

1954
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: movie Falling Down with Michael Douglas, that makes me. That

1955
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: makes me smile inside BC.

1956
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: Everybody who's watching us on a big screen can read

1957
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 2: what webscrem row, but it's always tied into our show.

1958
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 2: I can't see it at the moment. There but great

1959
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: stuff from Cristo's Cristo foy of he lives in Italy,

1960
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: though he's a man of the world.

1961
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1962
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: Look, have you ever gone on your ways app and

1963
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 2: put on the Greek language?

1964
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 3: You mean, like to tell you directions?

1965
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: And shit? Yes, no I put But here's what's kind

1966
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: of funny. You may not appreciate this because you're not cultural.

1967
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: You're from a factory town. If you put in different

1968
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,879
Speaker 1: Hispanic nationalities, like if you put in Dominican versus Mexican,

1969
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: the driver just doesn't sound different. Or the the the

1970
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: the person giving you directions, they don't just sound different.

1971
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: They have a completely different way of giving directions. It's

1972
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: actually kind of funny.

1973
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: Well, if you need directions in Greek, call on my

1974
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: guy webscream. He won't disappoint you. Hey, look, let's go

1975
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: to the boxing ring this weekend. Very low profile card

1976
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: in Miami, but we may have a Knockout of the

1977
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: year contender here. I guess we missed the beginning part.

1978
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,440
Speaker 2: It is twenty two year old Nick Karwagwhan Melving Lopez

1979
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: improved to twenty three and one by sending Yeis and

1980
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: Vargas to the bottom floor of hell. And this bantamwaight fight,

1981
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 2: Luke tko one. But what do you call it? When

1982
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: he turns them into like the zombies from the Thriller

1983
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: video and they're just hanging there?

1984
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, because this is the worst

1985
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 1: highlight I've ever seen.

1986
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: You can barely see the punch that lands.

1987
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Just look straight left there.

1988
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 3: I guess it looks like.

1989
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 1: They're doing tai chi until they fall over. I saw

1990
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: this comedian once. He was like you ever seen the

1991
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: heroin addicts, Like in the streets. The next morning, they

1992
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: look like they're doing tai chi because they can't quite move.

1993
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: It looks like that, only they're falling over this time.

1994
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right, let's move on to the golf

1995
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: course here, Luke. You all remember the greatest golf fight

1996
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 2: in history when Bob Barker and Happy Gilmour threw hand

1997
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: that time, Luke at the Waterbury Open. You remember this right?

1998
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 2: It was the celebrity program.

1999
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 3: This is my favorite Adam Sailor movie.

2000
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 2: This was you know, really, this is one of the

2001
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 2: better scenes of all time. The price is wrong, bitch,

2002
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: and uh, you know I don't want to taste I

2003
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 2: want the whole, the whole thing. Well, Bob Barker was

2004
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: back on the golf course this weekend, Luke, and you know,

2005
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was

2006
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: seeking revenge on that crocodile who ate Chubs his hand,

2007
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 2: and he got sent to hell for his efforts. Bob,

2008
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing here?

2009
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 1: That's Bob Barker's dead, right, This is just some old

2010
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: dude who's absolutely out of.

2011
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: His I can't speak on whether Bob still with us.

2012
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: You want to mount the gator?

2013
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

2014
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean, what are rich white people thinking here?

2015
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 1: What is going on? Okay, okay, okay, okay.

2016
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: Yes, look this has all of your favorite elements animal

2017
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 2: on human violence, rich white people getting sent to hell.

2018
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: Dude, what the fuck?

2019
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: He He avoided death or serious injury by virtue of

2020
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: this gator's kindness.

2021
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 3: He took pity on this old man.

2022
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 2: Well you know this, this this was probably the gator

2023
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: that took Chubbs' hand. And you know, I mean, come on,

2024
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 2: Bob Barker is dead, by the way, Bob Barker. All right,

2025
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: all right, p Bob Barker. Oh this guy might be

2026
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 2: dead too, look at it.

2027
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 1: At least shoulder the holy shit balls.

2028
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: I told you this may be one of the best.

2029
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 2: Have you seen the ships ever?

2030
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Luke?

2031
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: It only gets better from here? Are you ready?

2032
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: Whoa here? Put this pillowcase on the gator's head.

2033
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I mean, come on, don't mess don't

2034
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 2: I mean, don't poke the bear, right, you know what

2035
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 2: I mean?

2036
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: Gators alone? Here, you fucking old bastard, you geriatric piece

2037
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: of shit.

2038
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: You messed with the bull. You get old.

2039
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: This motherfucker's life. You see this motherfucker's life expectancy is

2040
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: Thursday and he's looking for an exit on Tuesday.

2041
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: Ah, you messed with the bull, you get the horns.

2042
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: You mess with, you wanna you get horned up. That's

2043
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 2: how it works, Luke, Okay, so leave her alone? Thank you?

2044
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's move on. This is an oldie

2045
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 2: buok goody, but it resurfaced on my timeline Top rank

2046
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: boxing earlier in the year. Robas Ramirez. I don't think

2047
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 2: we ever showed this, but look at this all time

2048
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 2: great snot rocket that comes out of this guy's nose, Lukey.

2049
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: Donpinis I like how it goes one direction then whips around.

2050
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Actually it touches me if you look closely, it touches

2051
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: his eyeball.

2052
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Bop is so gross. I mean that's really gross, Luke.

2053
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: Did you Indiana Jones could use this to hurt people?

2054
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, this is great stuff. All right? Thank you, Luke.

2055
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: You and I had a lot of fun with the

2056
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Room Service Diaries episodes one, two, and three better than

2057
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 2: the George Lucas prequels if you ask me. But you

2058
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: got a little touchy feely after a few drinks and

2059
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 2: somebody captured this on camera for us. Luke, what happened here?

2060
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 2: What is I mean? What is what do you? What

2061
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 2: do you? I mean with this is how you do it,

2062
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: This is how you operate, Luke, what is happening here?

2063
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 1: You know? I had to just let my feeling show

2064
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:01,600
Speaker 1: be see.

2065
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 2: You know what one thing you're lucky for? And I

2066
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: should have I should have hit you back for this

2067
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: move right here. But I did never sneak up on

2068
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 2: you in attempt to put in the rear naked choke.

2069
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 2: But our view were Scott Marshall at Anya Barrie on Twitter.

2070
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the hell that says or means,

2071
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 2: but he created an illustration for my rear naked choke

2072
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: in anticipation for our reunion this weekend. Uh you know,

2073
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 2: for a skinny guy, Luke, I could have put you

2074
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: in hell, I could I could have you know, I could.

2075
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Have nice nice rash guard there, Brian danaher a.

2076
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 2: Great stuff there from our people as always, and uh

2077
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 2: thank you. I did say this is one of the best.

2078
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 2: Have you seen? This is we've ever done. Let's continue

2079
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 2: rolling here. Check out the length this Ohio man went

2080
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 2: Luke to escape his court date. Watch this. Look at

2081
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's in there for, Luke, but

2082
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 2: he's gone. Brother. Look at that cop.

2083
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 1: Wow, look at the look at the old cop.

2084
01:33:58,439 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 3: That's the guy who's gonna go get the gonna go

2085
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 3: get that.

2086
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: That's the old bailiff, that old jail if ain't doing shit, Luke,

2087
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 2: that looks like.

2088
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: I gotta go get that gaiter in the front yard.

2089
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: Look at this cop go from zero to sit. Look

2090
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 2: at that Luke. That is badass.

2091
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: See. I gotta tell you, I'm not sure what I'm

2092
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: more impressed by the Oscar Pistorius level of speed there

2093
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 1: on this dude or or this bailiff just giving it dude,

2094
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: he gave it his all. Man, you can't shot on

2095
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: this guy. Look at him.

2096
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 2: Ah, bailiff whack is peepy. That is great, serious question.

2097
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: See if if you can run out of the courthouse,

2098
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't they just like make you not guilty of the crime?

2099
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: I think if you can get away this this girl,

2100
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 2: yeah this, I'm actually shouting out this guy. This guy

2101
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 2: is Andy from Shawshank if you ask me, Okay, I

2102
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: don't know what he did. Hopefully it wasn't gross. You

2103
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: can look it up, all right. He's from Ohio. Let's

2104
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 2: move on, Luke. This is the fail of the week.

2105
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 2: And this is an all time great. We're at a

2106
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 2: soccer match here and this chick tries to tries to

2107
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: hurdle the fence and gets knocked down, but it doesn't

2108
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 2: end here. Look, that's that's two fails for the price

2109
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 2: of one.

2110
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Look, that's so good. That sees fire, sees fire.

2111
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: That is you can't come back from that.

2112
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 1: That is.

2113
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: That fight fights over ko Oh good dude.

2114
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 3: You haven't.

2115
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, she looks like she's Antifa and the n

2116
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: y p D got the water hose to clear the protesters.

2117
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable, Luke.

2118
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Speaker 2: Mothers are doing a lot of very extraordinary things this year.

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01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 2: This this, you know, in this modern age, right, we

2120
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,919
Speaker 2: went from suffrage to uh. Two women you know hosting

2121
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 2: TV shows Doris Burke, color commentator in the n B A,

2122
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 2: Becky Hammond coaching in the n B. A. Well check

2123
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 2: out this, mom, Luke, j can we keep it going here?

2124
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Please can hit the button? Thank you? Uh? Mary f

2125
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 2: kill on this, Luke.

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01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I don't know about Mary. But the other

2127
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,520
Speaker 1: two are in play.

2128
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 2: She an extra and show girls. This is great.

2129
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe BC, the other two are in play.

2130
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 3: Maybe at the same time.

2131
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is gross. That's very Raco Sefreddi of you, Yes,

2132
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 2: that is fantastic.

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01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 1: That's right. Nacho Vidal and Rocos Safreddi, the hosts of

2134
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: Morning Combat.

2135
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: People are like, I can't believe BC doesn't know who

2136
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Nacho Vidala? Well, should I should?

2137
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: I know? I don't know?

2138
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: Should I look that up?

2139
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: Nacho Vidal has a better highlight reel than Israel Atasnia.

2140
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 2: All right, you know who put together a good highlight

2141
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 2: reel that we don't talk enough about How about this

2142
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 2: flyweight out at UFC two fifty three on Saturday, Kaikarra

2143
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: France and Brandon Royval put on a video game session.

2144
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 2: This might be the best twenty seconds to MMA you'll

2145
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: see all year. Luke, what the hell's going on here?

2146
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 2: This is great?

2147
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: This is this fight. If I someone's like, what's the

2148
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: difference between MMA and boxing, I'd be like, Yo, this right.

2149
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 2: That's right here, that's right here.

2150
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 3: This is the unpredictability, the craziness.

2151
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if it's a double knockdown

2152
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: or a double slip, but it was great.

2153
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh and then that backfist is just unbelievable.

2154
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: This is like Jam and the buttons. It's like remember

2155
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 2: that first pro wrestling game, like WWF Wrestling Challenge in

2156
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 2: the Arcade. There's one action button and you just pounded

2157
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 2: as hard as you can. Luke, Yeah, no, you don't.

2158
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 2: You didn't have fun. You didn't go to Roller Magic

2159
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 2: like I did. You don't have fun, all right, Luke.

2160
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Fun.

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01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: We got a lot, We got a lot of web

2162
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:30,839
Speaker 2: scream imitations here. Viewer Scott Rizzo created this MK inspired

2163
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 2: movie poster Morning Centipede. You like it?

2164
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: It's a little amateurish, but I like the coffee mug

2165
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: in the second hand there in the middle.

2166
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 2: I like that. All right, here's where this show gets

2167
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: all time great, Luke, this is the greatest and most

2168
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 2: insane street brawl ever captured on video. Darren Till tweeted

2169
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 2: it out. I don't know what country, but look at

2170
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 2: the chairs, just chao and people here, Luke, what is happening?

2171
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely Europe.

2172
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: It has Poland written all over it. Good blore. These

2173
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 2: guys are getting nailed and they're coming from like the

2174
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 2: second floor too. This might be better than that one that

2175
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 2: happened in Richmond outside your sister's apartment.

2176
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not even sure what to say.

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01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 2: This is violent a shit, Luke.

2178
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also great, it's pretty great.

2179
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 2: I've watched this five thousand times in the for in

2180
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. It's ridiculous.

2181
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, soccer it's got this is this is what this

2182
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 1: is soccer hooligans, right. This is some like third tier

2183
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: you know, uh bumfuck FC versus fuck bum FC, and

2184
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: they're fighting to the death over it because that's what

2185
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: people at this level of life do.

2186
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: I think this was right after Blahoitz knocked out. Uh yeah,

2187
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 2: what's his name? Yeah? Okay, this is great. Wow. A

2188
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 2: lot of Rays fans there apparently all right, Luke, Look,

2189
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: I've said it before, We've called you know. Sometimes we

2190
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 2: get knockouts who're like, that's the greatest knockout of all time.

2191
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 2: That's the greatest clip of all time. This next clip

2192
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 2: is the greatest clip in the history of Have you

2193
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 2: seen this ship, Luke? Get ready, it's even got a

2194
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 2: title called I Just wanted to poop. Here we go, Luke,

2195
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 2: We've all been here in high school. A brawl breaks

2196
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 2: out in the bathroom and this is a pretty good one.

2197
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: Look at the punches they're trading here, Luke.

2198
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: Okay, these two uh you know M I. T.

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01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 3: Scholars are fighting.

2200
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 2: No, but Luke, it's just like a ww brawl. It

2201
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: rolls out into the arena almost Look at the people watching.

2202
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 2: They're filming it.

2203
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: COVID, COVID safe watching wearing their mask.

2204
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 2: That the guy look at ey second, Look, he's just

2205
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: trying to cover up. He's look, he's just trying to

2206
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 2: take shelter.

2207
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 1: Dude, What the fuck I mean? How do you eat

2208
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: BC sitting or standing?

2209
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 3: How do you wipe.

2210
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do if you're that kid?

2211
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 2: What do you do? First?

2212
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: You gotta get you gotta get the hand up. He's

2213
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: just leaning over. You. Gotta get the hand up, man,

2214
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: because you might take an er.

2215
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: Half the schools watching this guy take a two. That's amazing, Luke, Really,

2216
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 2: that's amazing. That's unbelievable. That's the best fight ever.

2217
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, that is amazing.

2218
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 2: We do have one bonus clip sent in Luke. People

2219
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 2: listen to our third episode of Room Service Diaries and

2220
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 2: we we pitched out a great idea for a Armenian

2221
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: rock band, Luke. And now we have the first album

2222
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 2: cover I already printed out. Can we see this? Can

2223
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 2: we advance it? Jay to the final one? Please can

2224
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 2: hit the button? It's called Edmund in the head movements, Luke?

2225
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 1: And so is that Sabasian getting Ko and then Rowsey

2226
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: getting K with us.

2227
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 2: On the left, Rowsey on the right. Shout out to

2228
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,799
Speaker 2: uh at four to twenty B respectful for putting this together.

2229
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 2: Is that Heuey lewis in the news. I don't know,

2230
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 2: but that's genius, Luke. I know you and all your

2231
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 2: are the.

2232
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 1: People who watch this show. I mean they are degenerates

2233
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: like us, but they are they are crafty. I I

2234
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: am all, I am continuously amazed.

2235
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got a guy for that, right you ever?

2236
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 2: Like like, I got my barber. Actually my barber is

2237
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 2: uh is he Armenian? No, he's Albanian and uh I

2238
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 2: swear anything I need. He's like, Oh, I got a

2239
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 2: guy for that. I got you know you need. I

2240
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: got a plumber. I got a guy for that. You know, like,

2241
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 2: this is what we're building on this show. Look, we

2242
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 2: need graphic support. We got a guy for that. Okay,

2243
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 2: we need a new producer. We probably got a guy

2244
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 2: for that, right.

2245
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 3: I guess we do.

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01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:35,879
Speaker 1: Uh? Is your the guy who cuts your hair? Florio

2247
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: from ninety Day Fiance? No?

2248
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,719
Speaker 2: No, no, actually I've been cutting my hair this whole quarantine,

2249
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 2: So I don't really need a barber right now, but

2250
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 2: shout out.

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01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: All right, we will that will that in mind? Be

2252
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: seeing it's time for odds and ends? What do we

2253
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 1: have on odds and ends for you? Good sir?

2254
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Real quickly. There was some under the radar boxing this

2255
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: past weekend. I'm not saying go back and watch this,

2256
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 2: but ESPN Plus and top Rank put out a uh

2257
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 2: Junior middleweight unification are unified championship out. Josh Taylor move

2258
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 2: the chain's first round body knockout on some Thailand guy.

2259
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: What's the guy's name is Kongsong or something like that.

2260
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 2: No disrespect to that man, but this was a you know,

2261
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: mandatory move along. But the key element to this it

2262
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 2: was a weird sort of shot to the body, maybe

2263
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 2: not too different from that jab that ban Nah got

2264
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 2: kot On. But the whole point is this, there is

2265
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 2: now nothing in our way, Luke. The one hundred and

2266
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 2: forty pound division will have it. Summit. Josh Taylor, the

2267
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 2: Tartan Tornado is gonna bring his two belts. Jose Ramerez,

2268
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,839
Speaker 2: the unbeaten from top rank, has the other two belts.

2269
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna finally see this bout. Barbaron wants it later,

2270
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 2: probably more like early next year, Luke. These guys don't

2271
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 2: get a lot of pub But if you remember how

2272
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 2: good that rugaroo fight was against Josh Taylor, this guy

2273
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 2: has impressed us every single step of the way. This

2274
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 2: one right here is going to be a war. I

2275
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 2: can't wait for it. I'm glad that Josh Taylor didn't

2276
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,679
Speaker 2: have to expound too much energy or get hurt here

2277
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 2: and we moved the chains. The other was, you know,

2278
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if the zone's gonna be around next week,

2279
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 2: but they did give us what we wanted. Old Boxing

2280
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 2: Super Series Cruiserweight Tournament Final, Luke. This tournament in its

2281
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 2: second season, there's been all kinds of craziness. It's not

2282
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: in the forefront of our of our care level in America,

2283
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 2: but it should be if you're a hardcore boxing fan.

2284
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:17,200
Speaker 2: We saw the Cruiserweight final Myrius Brightis out pointing Unier Dordicos.

2285
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 2: If you remember the first season when Alexander Ussik basically

2286
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 2: became a star by bringing all four belts together, he

2287
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 2: gave Brietis his only loss in an absolute twelve round classic.

2288
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 2: This one on Saturday had a lot of us being

2289
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 2: excited that it could be just the same. Pretty damn

2290
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: good fight overall, very good, and it was Brieitis coming

2291
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: away with the IBF title. He's really the key of

2292
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 2: the division right now, the class of it Cruiserweight, Luke.

2293
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 2: Nobody talks about it in the States because we don't

2294
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: really have a lot of you know, sexy Americans in this,

2295
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 2: but you get so much bang for your Buck. If

2296
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 2: you're a hardcore boxing fan, you know what's going on

2297
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 2: at Cruiserweight. Thank you to these two for porn and

2298
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 2: all on the line for us.

2299
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: Great call for my odds and ends. Sadly they're not

2300
01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: quite a celebratory Diego. Sanchez took an l on Saturday

2301
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 1: against Jake Matthews and it wasn't terrible for two rounds,

2302
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: but then it got pretty bad for him in the

2303
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: third cut open and he was trying to shake things up.

2304
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: He brought Stephan Bonner and although he still had as

2305
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Joshua Fabia, who got in your words BC

2306
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: sent to hell by Matt Sarah, which was a great

2307
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: video to watch. And I don't even BC, I'm sure

2308
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: you ended up watching this fight. Here's the thing. Jake

2309
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 1: Matthews twenty six, it was like I was super blown away.

2310
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 1: Although he had a good I'm not heard of disparage

2311
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 1: and he had a good performance, but with Sanchez, he

2312
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 1: didn't look to be in great physical condition, you know,

2313
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: and again for two rounds he wasn't totally out of it,

2314
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 1: but he just what would you say about a BC,

2315
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: He looked lifeless to me. There wasn't Jack wasn't so look,

2316
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not about buddy shame. It's like, dude,

2317
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: are you in shape for the challenge here? Because if

2318
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 1: you're not, you're gonna get hurt real bad. The key

2319
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: to dig Sanchez, hold on me last thing on this.

2320
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: Even when he was technically overmatched, which was not infrequent,

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01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: he had a certain intensity and drive and like in

2322
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: your face ness And that's gone too, and that's when

2323
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: that starts to go.

2324
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 3: That's when I get concerned.

2325
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if we blame the School of Self

2326
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Awareness and your boy Fabia for this or not, but uh, look,

2327
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 2: he didn't look, you know, to be in shape at

2328
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 2: the level that you you you need to be, excuse me,

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01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 2: to be a world class fighter. And I know that

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01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 2: it's hard to say walk away now because he had

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01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 2: he did, He had won three of his last five

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01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 2: coming in and again that Mickey goalway was a very

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01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 2: good one, although he really didn't deserve a win in

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01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 2: the Michelle Pereiro uh Prenato one with the weird DQ.

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01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 2: But uh, Luke, when you do come in, look in

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01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 2: that chubby and you're like sort of a sad version

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01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 2: of yourself. I'm sorry, Like you know that that tells

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01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 2: you something, and even you said something right. He was

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01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,799
Speaker 2: competitive the first two rounds, but Luke, competitive meant running

2340
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 2: like a maniac, throwing like schoolyard punches. I mean, it

2341
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 2: was just it was just weird, Luke. Okay, and then

2342
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 2: he took a savage beating in the third and it

2343
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 2: got grossed with the blood. We never save these guys

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01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 2: from themselves ahead of time. We always wait until it's

2345
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 2: too late. I'm not saying I know his financial situation,

2346
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 2: but I don't want to see it anymore. Luke, it's done,

2347
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 2: don't you know? Go? Why don't you go box Connor

2348
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 2: in the Middle East. I'll pay for that, right, I'll

2349
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 2: watch that, you know.

2350
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: And I worry he's gonna end up on some place

2351
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 1: like BKFC, which I don't want to see, you know.

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01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 2: Frank, Why is Frank Muir doing BKFC. Shouldn't he be

2353
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: better than that?

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01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Maybe they maybe they

2355
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 1: offered him a ton of cash. Who knows, right, I mean.

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01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 2: I know heck Lomguard's doing well in there, and I

2357
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 2: know it's it's it's sort of the last stop, Luke.

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01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 1: See Thiago Alvis fought in there, and he actually didn't

2359
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 1: look half bad.

2360
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:39,839
Speaker 3: He actually looked okay.

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01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't super concerned about how he looked,

2362
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 1: but somebody, it's sort.

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01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Of like, look tell me if I'm wrong. It's the

2364
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 2: equivalent of like the aging adult film star who like

2365
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 2: the big guns don't want you anymore, so on the

2366
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 2: way out, you have to do really gross things to

2367
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 2: stay in the game. Right.

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01:46:56,840 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: I love how you compare fight sports to pornography, and

2369
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: I do too, But you could make that claim about

2370
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 1: like any actor in any normal industry. It's like, oh,

2371
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: you didn't want to do commercials before, and now you are,

2372
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: like you're Frank Thomas.

2373
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 2: There's a different thing an actor. You can go to Broadway,

2374
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 2: you can go to local theater, and you can still

2375
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 2: put on a classy performance. Luke, These guys are going

2376
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 2: somewhere where their face is going to be carved up

2377
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 2: for life, all right, Luke?

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01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: Maybe so all right, PC. So let's remind the folks

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01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 1: a couple of things here. One always a thumbs up,

2380
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: always a subscribe, always appreciate it when you do. Number Two,

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01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: We're back Wednesday, bitches, We're right back here on Wednesday

2382
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: now BC I've got a question for you. We know

2383
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: that Monday we're gonna do a lot of reacting to

2384
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 1: the stuff on the weekend, and we've kind of built

2385
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: a good show format.

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01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 3: Friday.

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01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 1: We're still working things out, but we know we're gonna

2388
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: be doing a lot of previewing of the upcoming weekends

2389
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 1: fights Wednesday. I think you and I would both agree

2390
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: we have an idea of what we want to do,

2391
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: but hey, we're open to suggestion. Should we get suggestions

2392
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 1: from the listeners and the viewers about what they want

2393
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: to see on Wednesdays.

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01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely, whether you want to see sort of a a

2395
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 2: long form version of of sort of a you know,

2396
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 2: DMS from donks Q and a whether you look I

2397
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 2: you know, look, you've got a great radio background. I'd

2398
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: like to take some you know, larger term topics and

2399
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 2: really stretch them out and go deep on them. You know,

2400
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 2: there's a lot we can do in there. We're obviously

2401
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 2: gonna eventually mix in some fighter interviews and stuff. I mean,

2402
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 2: we got a lot of great things coming. But I

2403
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 2: am open to see what Wednesday's gonna bring us, because

2404
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: Monday we're gonna look back. Friday we're gonna look forward,

2405
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 2: although this week we do have Bellator this Thursday on

2406
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 2: the CBS Sports Network, so we got some things to

2407
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 2: talk about. But yeah, I'm always open for the people

2408
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 2: to intervene here, Luke.

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01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so we by the way, we need

2410
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: to for the folks listening on this who work on

2411
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:41,839
Speaker 1: the show, we need a show email. But in the meantime,

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01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: Luke thomasnews at gmail dot com, All one word, Luke

2413
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: Thomas News at gmail dot com. What do you guys

2414
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: want to see on Wednesday? And then to an extent

2415
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 1: as well on Friday shows, what is something we don't

2416
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 1: cover that you would want to see? You know, just

2417
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: an idea about something you might be looking for now

2418
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 1: that we're expanding some of the formats. And of course

2419
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 1: here's our social as well. Morning Combat on Twitter, we

2420
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: have a Twitter, Morning Combat on insta Morning Combat right

2421
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 1: here on YouTube, and then you could see our various

2422
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: twitters and instagrams. For Brian and I Luke.

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01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 2: For one second, can I interuce My wife bought me

2424
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 2: bought us a young Box, which means every month you

2425
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 2: get a box of snacks from a different country. Last

2426
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 2: month was Columbia. Here, Luke, have you ever eaten any

2427
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 2: of these Papa Oriata mayonnaise chips.

2428
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: I have, Yes, you have, you have made.

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01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: By Law Victoria at Papa Areata. They're not bad. They

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01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 2: taste kind of like mayonnaise. Is this A? Is a

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01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 2: buela aat these too? Because I could, I could probably.

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01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: No, you're eating the equivalent of I don't know you

2433
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 1: went to you went to you went to Columbia seven

2434
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 1: to eleven? Eating those is what I'm trying to point

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01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: out A very on brand. Uh, BC, you need to

2436
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: figure out what Jimmy Sure he is. I still can't

2437
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 1: get over you don't know what that is, but we'll

2438
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 1: figure that out later. Also before we go.

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01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 2: BC, what classic rock is bro? All right?

2440
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I figured it out. It's things that suck ass.

2441
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 1: But let me make this one last thing. A listener

2442
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 1: wrote me and they said that they want you and

2443
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: I to rewatch this week for me, rewatch for you

2444
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: watch the Heath Ledger Joker movie The Batman One, and

2445
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 1: then react to it on Friday Show. Would you be

2446
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: interested in like a segment where we have dedicated viewing

2447
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: responsibilities and then we you know, I.

2448
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 2: Would not be against whether we well, don't pick books

2449
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 2: because I'll read that shit if you picked either if

2450
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 2: we picked either a song, an album, a live performance

2451
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 2: in music, or like you're saying, a movie that we

2452
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 2: had the time to digest and then specifically broke it

2453
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 2: down and had our audience ready there as well. I'm

2454
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 2: down with that. Okay, I'm down all.

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01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: Right, let's talk about that. Let's talk about that, all right.

2456
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Speaker 1: If you'd like to try Showtime, why wouldn't you go

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Speaker 1: to Showtime dot com right now, thirty day free trial.

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Speaker 1: If you'll like it, you can keep it. If not,

2459
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Speaker 1: you can pound sand don't forget the store store dot

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Speaker 1: show that's s h O dot com for all your

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Speaker 1: morning combat gear, hoodies, shirts, long sleeve, short sleeve, whatever

2462
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 1: you need. We got it there and we're back on Wednesday, bitches,

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Speaker 1: We are back.

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Speaker 3: So for Brian.

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01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks for everyone to Showtime in Malca.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, May all of your gains be loyal