1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hi there, 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. My name is Chris Pollette. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm an editor here at how Stuff Works, and with 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: me is writer Jonathan Strickland. Hey there, Yeah, we were 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: coming up with ideas for the tech Stuff podcast, and um, 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: instead of doing an article, we we found one of 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: those concepts that runs across several of our articles. And 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: it's called Moore's law. That's right, and uh, don't let 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the name fool you. It's it's not actually a law. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get in trouble. If you break it, 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: you'll probably get a round of applause. Moore's laws is 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: more of a concept that's kind of been tweaked a 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: bit over the years. It's not exactly the same thing 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: as it was when Gordon Moore proposed it back in 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five, but in general the concept remains pretty 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: much the same. Yeah. As a matter of fact, Gordon Moore, 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: who was the founder of intel Um, actually didn't even 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: want to call it More's law. His friend from cal 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: Tech a professor cal Tech, decided to call it More's law. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: It was a concept that doctor Moore Um proposed than 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: a paper with the exciting title Cramming More Components on 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: the Integrated Circuits that was published in Electronics magazine in 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: ninet And basically what War's law is is, you know, 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: he said, as you make uh semiconductors, the more transistors 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: that you put on a chip, you will be able 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: to duck to double that within the span of a year. 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he actually had to revise it. 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: It's not a law. He had to revise it because 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: of the way they manufacture chips. That actually went up 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: to uh one and a half years and then two years, 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: and you know, now it's starting to slip a little 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: bit as the laws of physics are catching up with manufacturing, right. 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: And and the definition was tweaked also by saying, okay, 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: instead of just saying the number of transistors, maybe maybe 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: we should word that as in a computing power, like 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: every two years, the computing power on a on a 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: chip doubles um. And this has pretty much been holding 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: truth throughout the history of of electronics and computing, uh, 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: mainly because not not from a technological standpoint, although that 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: plays a huge role as people improve manufacturing techniques and 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: things like that, But really from a commercial and social standpoint, 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about companies that they have to meet expectations 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: now because everyone knows about Moore's Law, and everyone knows 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that a computer has to be twice as powerful as 47 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: it was two years ago, and now companies feel like 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: that that's actually a standard they have to meet. It's 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: no longer dictated by technology, it's dictated by expectation. Yeah, 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: that's that's true. Um. If you go into Intel's website, 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: they actually have a section of the site dedicated to 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Moore's Law, and if you read through it, you know, 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: you don't even really have to read very deeply into it. 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: They talk about how they are attempting to keep that standard. 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of funny that, you know, it's 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: it's this nebulous artificial Yeah. Yeah, but they're they're trying 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: to make it happen. One of the funny things about 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Dr Moore's prophecy, though, in in nineteen sixty five, is 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: um he said that in his paper he says that 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: if they are able to meet these standards, that we 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: would be able to have certain conveniences, you know, can 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: that are able to uh to make our lives easier, 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: such as you know, computers in the home or mobile 64 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: communications devices. So he predicted cell phones. Yeah. Um. The 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: the interesting thing here is that Moore's law can't go 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: on forever, and that's because of the laws of physics. 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: The laws of physics state, specifically quantum physics that when 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: you get down to a certain level, uh, things, the 69 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: things that a circuit needs to be able to do, 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: you just can't do at a certain size. And we're 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: talking about just a few nanometers in size, and a 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: nanometer is a billion of the eater, so it's very 73 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: very tiny. Well, at five nanometers, a logic gate can 74 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: no longer perform, electron gate can no longer perform what's 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: meant to do? Now? These gates, what they do is 76 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: they allow electrons to pass through or not pass through. 77 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: That ends up translating into a one or a zero 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: basic bits here. But an electron gate that's five nanometers 79 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: are smaller in size, can't do that because an electron 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: can tunnel through it. It doesn't actually make a hole, 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: it just passes through. It's as if it's on one 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: side at one moment and on the other side of 83 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the other, and and somehow it just passes through. It's 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: one of those weird things about quantum mechanics. So you 85 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: can't make anything that size because you can't control the electrons. 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: So that that's that's really the limit. Even if we 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: figure out a way of making things that's small, it 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: won't work. I also read that of course, as you 89 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: increase the number of transitions, you're also increasing the amount 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: of electricity that it needs, and that also affects the 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: amount of cool ing that you're going to have to 92 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: have because that everything up so um. It's just a 93 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: matter of time, I guess, before we reach the end 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: of Moore's law, and then we'll have to see what 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: manufacturers do to to, you know, just pump up computers 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: and electronics just that much more, right, whatever tricks they 97 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: pull out of their bags. Well, if you'd like to 98 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: read more about articles that in which we mentioned More's law, 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: and you can read Jonathan's how quantum computing will work 100 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: and how PCs work, And there are several others on 101 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com that are up today that 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: you can check out. So for now, thank you. Very 103 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: much for listening. For more on this and thousands of 104 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: other topics, does it how stuff works dot Com Let 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: us know what you think. Send an email to podcast 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: and how Stuff Works dot Com brought to you by 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. It's ready, are you