1 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on a 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's do it live on a Monday edition 7 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: of the program. I am merely bow the long lost 8 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: traveling Wilbury the great Ze. Look at you? You back, baby, 9 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: That one's on me. 10 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: It's good to be back, baby. 11 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: No, we're good. 12 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: I think we're good. No, that's okay. 13 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: I had to do the uh, you know, the phone 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: because I was in here. You guys were on vacation 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: for two years. How you doing? Give it? 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 5: He? 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: Can I interest you in some breaking news? 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, go ahead, we're interested. We're intrigued. Uh right off? 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 6: The Get Go training Camp quarterback competition officially has a resolution. 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 6: The Browns have announced their starting quarterback, Joe Flacco. We'll 22 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 6: start a quarterback when the Browns open the regular season 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 6: at home against the Bengals on September seventh. 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 7: I want to cry, and not because Joe Flacco has 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 7: been named the starting quarterback of the Clean Runs. Because 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 7: this happened at one o'clock clock on the Dot Brown's 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 7: daily Breaking News. Joe Flacco's your quarterback. Now you heard 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 7: it here. You knew what was going this direction. But 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 7: here we are Joe Flacco, not three oh one one o'clock. 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 7: Not three oh one one o'clock. 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful. Look. Uh, I think we have had I 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: think we have done as straightforward of telling of how 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: this has gone as you're gonna find, because it's what's 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: happened last week. 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: We know what s knows what's going on, like we 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: know it's going on. 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: That's fact. 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: That's just the way that it is. 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 2: Last week, though we were talking and we said, look, 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: this was probably as we set it up all off season, 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: this was Kenny Pickett unless he either really struggled or 42 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: there was an injury. Well, the injury happened, and once 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: he didn't get to Philly and able to play. 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: Oh that's it. 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: It's cooked. 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 7: He was not able to participate in eleven on eleven 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 7: since day four of training camp. And I know that 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 7: time flies when you have a newborn, but let me 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 7: tell you something that was a long, long time ago. 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: It was. 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: It was a long time ago. And Joe Flacco, we 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: said it. 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 7: He's been the best quarterback obviously, the most experienced, and 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 7: he also has had the greatest ability availability the whole time. 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 7: In fact, he is the only quarterback that has now 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 7: missed some time. And so Joe Flacco is here starting 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 7: what a graphic. 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: Look at the graphic, ready to go. Doctor Jay was 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: ready doctor day. 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: He was so Yes, he was ready. 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 7: And so this is again not a surprise at all 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 7: in his eighteenth season. Flacco, I know, is very excited 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 7: about it. I know the team's excited about it. And uh, 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 7: that's the way that we expected this to. 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: Go, and that's the way that it is. 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 7: And Joe flaccoe we're hoping that he can kind of 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 7: recapture that magic he had when he went four and 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 7: one as the starter to end twenty twenty three through 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 7: for three hundred yards in every game. I like it, 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 7: and especially for Week one. You know, styles make the fights. 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 7: You're gonna have to score to beat that Bengals team, 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 7: and I think Joe Flacco is the quarterback right now 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 7: that can do it. And I'd also say, you know, 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 7: we're not going to get into two, three, four, what 75 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 7: that's going to look like or anything, But we'll talk 76 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 7: about those quarterbacks. 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure, very very soon. 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 7: This is stabilizing, and this is this is a good thing. 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 7: I think look, had Kenny Pickett gone on the way 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 7: that things were looking for him, I think people would 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 7: be very pleased that he was starting quarterback. But Joe 82 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 7: Flacco has got number one experience, He's got cachet in 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 7: this city, out the wazoo, and so Joe Flacco, I 84 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 7: think being named the starter, let's go. 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: It's full speed ahead. 86 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 7: Now we're missing just one thing, obviously, quin Shawn Judkins 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 7: when he's back, and then this team is that it 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 7: feels like you're really ready to get going. And then 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 7: this will be the dress rehearsal. And we've seen dress 90 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 7: rehearsals in various forms from Stefanski in his time here. 91 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 7: Sometimes it's a real dress rehearsal, sometimes it's limited people. 92 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 7: But I think we're going to see, you know, a 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 7: dress rehearsal this weekend, and Joe Flacco will be be 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 7: ready to roll. He looks great throwing the football, and 95 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 7: I think we're gonna be able to see. You know, 96 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 7: why did we go back to it. This offense. Neat 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 7: for this team to be successful, elite defense, and I 98 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 7: think gonna be carried by that defensive line, the running game. 99 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 7: And I just mentioned you know, Quinn Shawn and hopefully 100 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 7: with a resolution to his legal matters that that means 101 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 7: he will be back sooner rather than later. But Jerome 102 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 7: Ford has looked good, Dylan Samson has looked good. Strong 103 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 7: showed that, you know, Pierre Stronghold little fifty four yard 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 7: bounced to the outside, a little bit of juice there. Yeah, 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 7: And then you've got to be able to hit big 106 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 7: plays when they are available to you. And that really 107 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 7: is the modus operandi. 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: That's what M stands. 109 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 7: For those of you who did not know that the 110 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 7: mo of Joe Flacco his entire career and certainly in 111 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 7: his time with the Cleveland Browns. 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: And so I think this is good. 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 7: This is a It was the only outcome because the 114 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 7: reality of it was, you can say all you want, 115 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 7: you know, and at times it was. It was a 116 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 7: billed as a four quarterback competition, but we once we 117 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 7: should never got a first team rep. 118 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: So not in the competition. And the reality is when 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: you start. 120 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 7: Since the at Baltimore green Bay at Detroit, Minnesota at 121 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh teams that six teams who last year were a 122 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 7: combined forty games over five hundred. That's right, forty games 123 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 7: over five hundred they were last year combined. You weren't 124 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 7: starting a rookie, No, it's too much, and so especially 125 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 7: now if it was a number two pick, that's a 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 7: different story. 127 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: This is a third round and a fifth round rookie. 128 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could start a rookie if they were 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: in competition with one other player to be the starter 130 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: from the start of camp, right, we had four people, 131 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: we had two rookie. We had shoot Or to your point, 132 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: who got no reps in the eleven on eleven because 133 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: he was on a little bit of a different path, 134 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: and even Dylan's were they were enhanced once the injury 135 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: to pick it happened, yes, but it just wasn't something 136 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: that was going to be there right away. Where Like 137 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: if you had a month to get a rookie right, 138 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: you could do that, but that's not what we were 139 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: doing here. And so this was one of those things 140 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: where where Flacco wins the job. He's been the best, 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: he's been the healthiest, as you mentioned, he's just a pro. 142 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: I remember when he showed up here two years ago 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: and he was in with us and we did like 144 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: twenty easy, breezy minutes with him, and when he left, 145 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: you and I were talking and we said this on 146 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: air too. I said, well, that's a franchise quarterback. That's 147 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: what it feels like. You know, like he's a foty 148 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: year old man at this point. 149 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 7: But in terms of like, oh, that's what it's like 150 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 7: when you have a guy who's got the answers to 151 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 7: the test, so he has all that. 152 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: I also think in a roster that is really in 153 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: the middle of a transition phase where you have these 154 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: you have you have these handful of players that are stars, 155 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: established veterans, but you also have this huge what is 156 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: now a huge rookie class at all look got huge 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: now it looks ready really good, and and now you 158 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: have a pros pro at the top who, by the way, 159 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: it's beloved by the fan base. All of those things, 160 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: you you now got something that makes a lot of 161 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: sense to me. I get all of it. I think 162 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: this was by the time when Kenny missed the eleven 163 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: on eleven's in Pittsburgh, and actually just before that when 164 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: Joe mentioned in the Carolina and Carolina when when when 165 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Joe Thomas mentioned on the broadcast though while you were 166 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: doing the radio with Andrew mentioned the broadcast that the 167 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: injury to Kenny was more severe than we we realized. 168 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: Once that became public, then you said, Okay, if Kenny 169 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: doesn't get eleven on eleven work against Philly, then it's cooked. 170 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 7: Well that was really when this show's mood or not mood, 171 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 7: but take on. The direction changed as well, because when 172 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 7: we were in in Carolina, it became very clear that 173 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 7: that is not going to be that he is not 174 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 7: going to be ready, no, and he's not gonna be 175 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 7: able to get back into the competition, and thus it 176 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 7: is going to be Joe Flackel. But and not by default, 177 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 7: Joe Flacko has been the best quarterback here. Yeah, so 178 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 7: he certainly has earned it, and I think that is 179 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 7: a very it's an exciting thing. And I think this 180 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 7: is the scenario that I think if you would have 181 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 7: asked most fans back in April, coming out of the 182 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 7: draft who they wanted to be the Week one starter 183 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 7: would have been Joe Flacco. 184 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: And that's what he's going to get now. 185 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 7: Obviously, there is another layer to this that has you know, 186 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 7: emerged with Shador, and I think that once he is ready, 187 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 7: he will get some opportunities this year. I think Dylan 188 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 7: certainly has a quitted himself full enough to get some 189 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 7: opportunities this year. 190 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: And I just want to say this is just for me, and. 191 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 7: You guys can feel free to disagree or not, but 192 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 7: I have never in my time doing this job gotten 193 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 7: more attacked personally for a postgame recap than the one 194 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 7: I did about last week's game, which in which it 195 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 7: is a fact that Dylan Gabriel completed seventy two percent 196 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 7: of his passes, it is a fact that he operated 197 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 7: the offense well, it's also a fact there were two 198 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 7: turnovers that need to be cleaned up. Now, the pass 199 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 7: should he have thrown it, No, but the reason that 200 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 7: it happened was certainly not his fault. And they're gonna 201 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 7: be both the tight end and the receiver involved in 202 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 7: that play did not execute their jobs. He needs to 203 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 7: dirt that, no doubt. So ultimately he holds the ball, 204 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 7: that sort of his responsibility. And then yeah, the handoff 205 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 7: he didn't get to the market appeared anyway. 206 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: So those are things that need to be cleaned up. 207 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 7: But in terms of watching somebody operate with poise, incredible accuracy. 208 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 7: His ball placement on the out to Jamari Thrash, for example, 209 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 7: anywhere else is picked or incomplete. Yep, he did everything 210 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 7: you want. Guy goes five for five on his first 211 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 7: five third downs in the NFL, four of them passes, calm, cool, 212 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 7: collect like you watch it and you should say, yeah, 213 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 7: this dude can operate this offense. 214 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: No doubt, there's in rhythm, quick, all of that. 215 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 7: It's a good thing Browns fans that both of these 216 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 7: rookies looked good. 217 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well not, it's not out there in the world. 218 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: It's not at all. 219 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 7: Oh really, So I was attacked for like the fact 220 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 7: that I commented positively on Dylan Gabriel means to some 221 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 7: that I hate you Dor Sanders. I don't know the 222 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 7: people who are saying that. If you've ever watched the show, 223 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 7: you've ever listened to it. 224 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: I was happy. 225 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 7: I wanted Shore Sanders at two period in the first round, 226 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 7: we did the video of Okay, February, Okay, I wanted. 227 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: Friday Night, I'm have dinner with Greg co Sell. 228 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 7: All it talks about how much I love sor so, 229 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 7: I don't know that there was a bigger fan of 230 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 7: Shore Sanders in this building, to be quite honest with 231 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 7: you than me. It can be both true, and they're 232 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 7: both Browns, so we should be rooting for them both 233 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 7: to be good. That both showed the things that you 234 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 7: liked about them in college. Shouldure, the poise, the ball placement, 235 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 7: the calm in the pocket, the ability to layer his throws, 236 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 7: all of those things we saw it. Throws for two touchdowns, 237 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: no turnovers. He was sensational and then from Dylan Gabriels, 238 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 7: operate an offense, it's put your team in position to 239 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 7: succeed and led three scoring guards almost almost. He threw 240 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 7: for one hundred and forty three yards the first half. 241 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 7: We had basically two hundred yards offense in the first half. Yeah, 242 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 7: like three yards passing two hundred and eighty six yards 243 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 7: passing four hundred yards offense. That's good, that's good. The 244 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 7: turnovers obviously bad. Everybody knows that first start. But if 245 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 7: you looked at it and said, were they're the things 246 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 7: that we saw on tape with both of these guys 247 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 7: that made us want to make them Cleveland Browns, You 248 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 7: bet you. And that is encouraging, and that's good, and 249 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 7: it's not one at the expense of the other. 250 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 3: They're gonna compete. 251 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 7: They're gonna compete, and at some point, I would imagine, 252 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 7: at some point, probably this year, both of them will 253 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 7: get opportunities in real games that matter and count. But 254 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: if you wanted to come in this and be like, 255 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 7: you know what, and again we're we're talking about third 256 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 7: and fifth round quarterbacks, third and fifth round quarterbacks. 257 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: Do you know how many. 258 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 7: Quarterbacks are starting in the NFL off the top of 259 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 7: your head that were not drafted in the first round? 260 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: You know what? We did this this summer. 261 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: That was just top twelve offenses. 262 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: No, no, no, but we did this. We did this too 263 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: where I went through and did where they were drafted. 264 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't know the number for sure, but I would say, 265 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: is it five five who weren't first rounders? 266 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: That's right? 267 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I knew it was. It's Rocker said like, seventy 268 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 7: were first rounders, so even higher than the higher than that. Yeah, 269 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 7: it's rock Party in the seventh round. It's Dak Prescott 270 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 7: in the fourth round. It's Russell Wilson in the third round. Yep, 271 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 7: what we're back, baby, it's. 272 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: By Jay he could be supplanted by Dart. Yeah. 273 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 7: Yes, First, it's Jalen Hurts who was the Ring Super 274 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 7: Bowl champion, second round and Gino Smith was a second 275 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 7: round pick. 276 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: Yep, that's it. That's the whole list. 277 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 7: That's the list in the National Football League. So when 278 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 7: you draft the guy in the third round or the 279 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 7: fifth round, you're not necessarily drafting them to be your savior. Now, 280 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 7: the funny thing for all these people coming at me 281 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 7: is that I've said all along, I think Shadoor is 282 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 7: the one who has the ceiling. 283 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: What did they come at you for? 284 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: For biking? 285 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 7: Gabriel means that I hate Shador, which is how do 286 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 7: we get to a point in the world because we 287 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 7: are a tribalistic society or idiots the tribal the idea 288 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 7: that you can't see the greater good and that you 289 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 7: can like both of them, and that you should be 290 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 7: from a Browns fan perspective, you should be almost indifferent 291 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 7: to which one who cares. 292 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: From your perspective, you just want a franchise quarterback. Yes, 293 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 2: who cares which one it is? Doesn't matter. The idea 294 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: that Chadur looked the way that he looked, which was 295 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: so natural and my reaction to that, I mean, and 296 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 2: go listen to our show from that bad day when 297 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: we talked about all of those things were peacock and around. 298 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: But it's also can be very true, and it is 299 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: that Gabriel. I thought he was exceptional. I thought the 300 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: the interception, yes, inevitably, it's on him. Those two have 301 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: no business being in the vicinity of each other the 302 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: way that. 303 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: They are on this and then Blake kind of got pushed. 304 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: Out, but he should have dirted it fine. But in 305 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: terms of somebody who you want to talk about like calm, 306 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: pre snap post in and out of huddle, his accuracy, 307 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: he reminded me a lot of Bake. Reminded me a 308 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: lot of Bake in terms of how Baker came out 309 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: like really quick out of his hand, a lot bigger 310 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: arm than I think people give him credit for. The 311 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,359 Speaker 2: throw he made. Was it to thrash on the sideline? 312 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, on the out out like it was just I. 313 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 7: Mean, that is a seed to put it in there, 314 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 7: serious throw, it's a big time throw. 315 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought I thought he was great. And the 316 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: idea that anybody would have a problem with From there, 317 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: there aren't no camps there. You're all Brown's camp. There's 318 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: not a Shout or camp. There's not a Dylan camp. Like, 319 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: hopefully one of them is to be great. If they 320 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: both were, then you can get a draft asset out 321 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: of it. But like we want them both to be great. 322 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully they're both great. And I thought they both were 323 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: exceptional in their own ways. And I think when you 324 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: watch the two games, it makes sense they are where 325 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: they are in the depth chart too. 326 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 7: Yes, that it all makes sense absolutely, And Dylan reminds me. 327 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 7: And I know it's because he's a lefty and it's 328 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 7: an easy thing to do. But you know, Dylan reminds 329 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 7: me of Tua and how he's going to win. 330 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: It's being rhythm. His anticipatory throwing. 331 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 7: You certainly saw it there is very good and he 332 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 7: is whereas I think, out of structure and the ability 333 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 7: to make real splash plays, that's really something that Shador 334 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 7: is very good. 335 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: Now. 336 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 7: I think he's very good instructure as well because of 337 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 7: his accuracy, but I'm talking about in the rhythm of 338 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 7: the offense. Like the reason brock Party has been so 339 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: successful in San Francisco is because he is able to 340 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 7: operate in tune with what it is that Kyle Shanahan 341 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 7: wants him to do. Yeah, Kyle makes it very simple. 342 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 7: This happens, the ball goes here. That happens, the ball 343 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 7: goes there. Brock Party is able to digest that quickly 344 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 7: and then deliver the football accuracy. 345 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: That's what Dylan Gabriel is going to be. 346 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel if he is going to ever ascend to 347 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 7: that level in the National Football League, that is how 348 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 7: he is going to do it. He is going to 349 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 7: operate the offense very very well in the confines of 350 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 7: the offense the way that like a guy a Kirk 351 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 7: Cousins has been so successful in this league for so. 352 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: Long that that's his path. 353 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 7: But what I think you see there and again I 354 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 7: go back to it, this is a third round draft 355 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 7: pick who is drafted as their their lottery tickets. When 356 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 7: five of the thirty two starters in the league are 357 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 7: drafted outside the first round, a quarterback taken outside the 358 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 7: first round, you're hoping is this is a long term backup, 359 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 7: and this is somebody that if we need him to 360 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 7: steward us for four six games, can do it. And 361 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 7: anything above that is absolute gravy is icing on the cake, 362 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 7: and so I think people are looking at that and 363 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 7: through that lens of that it is some major and look, 364 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 7: everybody's gonna do it. 365 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: It's clicks to say. 366 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 7: The comment he made was about help did it? It 367 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 7: wasn't about you. That was the NFL own. What are 368 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 7: we doing? 369 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: Let's care about clicks, dude? 370 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: I mean that's just good lord, you're the league. Like 371 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: this wasn't some outpost. 372 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: Now Adam Adam Schefter did it without an NFL context? Yes, 373 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: no context the whole question on any of it. 374 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 7: Uh, And I know that there are local who had 375 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 7: a better debut, who had a better debut. Honestly, what 376 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 7: those two debuts did for me was confirmed that the 377 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 7: Browns selected quarterbacks that have a chance, that have a chance, 378 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 7: and that should be really encouraging. That should be really encouraging. 379 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 7: And they both showed the things that you liked about 380 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 7: them on tape, both of them. And that's really encouraging 381 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 7: to me, by the way. And Gabriel, I, yes, the 382 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 7: pick bad, understood, understood, can't throw it, learn from it. 383 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 7: That's great, But he moved them into Philadelphia territory every time. 384 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: What did you say? 385 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 7: He was on third down. He started off five for five, Yeah, 386 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 7: his first five for five. He was five for five 387 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 7: on his first five third. 388 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought he was throwing darts. And 389 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: I thought both of them showed I thought both of 390 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: them played better than people thought that they were going 391 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: to play, for sure, and they both appeared incredibly prepared 392 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: for the moment. Neither one of them was the moment 393 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: too big. I thought they both looked like they were 394 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: in total control of their circumstances. And I think you 395 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: saw the pluses with both. I thought you saw like 396 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: both of those two guys put their best foot forward 397 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: to show you what they're capable of. 398 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, how they operate, Yeah, absolutely, And I would say 399 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 7: you should feel very comfortable as well watching that with 400 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 7: the coaching that they're getting from Stefanski, Reese and Musgrave, 401 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 7: because their footwork was all excellent. Yeah, their eyes and 402 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 7: their feet were moving together. The decision making was good, 403 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 7: the process was good, the operation was good for both 404 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 7: of them. So I think those are as, I said, 405 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 7: very encouraging things on both fronts right there, And that 406 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 7: tell us to you about the coaching that they're receiving. 407 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 7: Tells you about the work that they're both putting in. 408 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 7: It tells you about the talent that they both have 409 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 7: when they let the ball rip. So I thought it 410 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 7: was a really really positive two weeks in terms of 411 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 7: those young quarterbacks, and I think that that is very encouraging. 412 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: Frobounts. 413 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 7: Here's the other thing. The Browns d is really good. 414 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 7: We didn't GI up one hundred yards in that game, 415 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 7: and I know it's twos and threes. We get one 416 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 7: hundred yards. The depth of our defense, it's not a 417 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 7: surprise to me that our quarterbacks have looked better against 418 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 7: other people than. 419 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: They have against the Browns. 420 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: No, no, that all of those pieces matter. I want 421 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: to go back to the quarterback thing with you in 422 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: a second. Subviously, a monumental day, you got Joe Flacco 423 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: named the starter. You've now seen both rookies play a 424 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: game of no fault. To his own, Kenny Pickett hasn't 425 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: done anything since what did you say? The fourth day 426 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: of camp was the last day that he did eleven 427 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: on eleven like he's thrown, but he hasn't an eleven 428 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: on eleven hasn't a team since then. That was the 429 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: day that that Bernie interviewed him post gaming. That's how 430 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: long it was, like Saturday, fourth Saturday of game, but 431 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: the first real like real kind of practice. Yeah, he 432 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: hasn't since then. What I'm curious about is because with 433 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: the addition of Isaiah Bond, who we're going to talk 434 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: about in a second, and you and I did the 435 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: fifty three at the end of last and it was like, Wow, 436 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: this starts to be some tough decisions here in terms 437 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: of where this is going to go. I think the 438 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: question for Kevin, and again of no fault of his own, 439 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: is do you need to carry four quarterbacks? Yep? To me, 440 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: that's the next thing. Now that Flacco's the starter, are 441 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: you comfortable enough in Gabriel and Shoudoor because you're not 442 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: cutting either one of them. Are you comfortable in either 443 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: one of them that Kenny becomes maybe a trade chip 444 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: going forward? That's just common sense from my perspective. I 445 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: think that is kind of the next thing to watch 446 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: because we've always said Kenny roll four, but Kenny's been hurt, 447 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: hasn't practiced eleven's in a long time. Again, of no 448 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: fault of his own, Now, does that change the way 449 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: they view that quarterback room here? In the next week? 450 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 7: Or so, Yeah, you have to wonder, and you would 451 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 7: have to think on some level that maybe the answer 452 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 7: to that is yes, that you know, this is a 453 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 7: team that had no problem trading Josh Dobbs and rolling 454 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 7: with dtr and now you've got two of these guys. 455 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 7: You've got Dylan and Shador who both look more than 456 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 7: up to the task of being the number two quarterback. 457 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 458 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 7: So it's un fortunate, and it's nothing against Kenny Pickett 459 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 7: at all. It's just the reality of where we are 460 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 7: is that at some point this year, the only guys 461 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 7: in house that can be a solution because we talked 462 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 7: about the nuance with Kenny and that if you really 463 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 7: did play well and being that he was up for 464 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 7: a contract here, the money might become difficult. And so 465 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 7: the best case scenario then is you get a cop 466 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 7: pick for him somewhere else. Well, there's Dylan Orshador can 467 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 7: change the trajectory of this franchise. So seeing them, if 468 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 7: you're starting Joe Flacco, seeing them is probably more important 469 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 7: over the course of the season than it ever would 470 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 7: be to see Kenny Pickett. 471 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely through no fault of no And it I feel 472 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: reiterating that and I feel like we have to do 473 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: that in today's day and age, because otherwise things will 474 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: get clipped and you'll get like a six second clip 475 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: of saying it and it's like, no, you got to 476 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: say this with the abundance of context. But the reality 477 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: is is that if you are now for the next 478 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: couple of weeks leading into the opener against Cincinnati, is 479 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: every rep that his first team goes to Joe to 480 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: get him ready to go. You got to get him 481 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: on the same page with Isaiah Bond. We'll get it 482 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: to him in a second. But he's clearly making the 483 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: team and it's gonna be in the fifty three. Quinchahn 484 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: Judkins is going to be in here. I would assume 485 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: at some point relatively soon, he's gonna get in the mix. 486 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: You need Joe on the same page with all of 487 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: those guys in the next three weeks. That's really what 488 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: the job is. But then beyond that, those other first 489 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: team reps of second team reps, the backup reps, does 490 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: it make sense to give those to someone who really 491 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: doesn't have a long term future here that that'll be 492 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: the question for or it's very difficult to imagine a 493 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: long term future because there's no real path for you know, 494 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: starter here. So yeah, I think all of those things 495 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: are question and this roster we did it. I think 496 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: on Friday show kind of went through where we thought 497 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: the fifty three would be. Now that we have all 498 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: of these data points, and at the time we did it, 499 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: the Bond thing hadn't happened yet yep. So now he's 500 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: in the mix. So now that you're gonna if you're 501 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: gonna take him into that room, he's going into that room, 502 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: are you taking somebody out or do you take it 503 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: from another room? And that's where this quarterback conversation come from. 504 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that you know, when you try 505 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 7: to go through and the things that are going to 506 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 7: need to be done, like listen, the fact. 507 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: Is, why don't we just say it real quick? So 508 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: the Browns did sign Isaiah Bond today. 509 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 7: Officially he is signed, so he is an undrafted free agent, 510 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 7: so that is a three year contract, but then the 511 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 7: Browns would have his rights basically as a restricted free 512 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 7: agent to the fourth year and beyond. So yes, Isaiah 513 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 7: Bond has been signed. Here's what Andrew Berry said about it. 514 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 7: And I think this is important context because it tells 515 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 7: you just how thorough they were. 516 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: Quote. 517 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 7: We've spent much of the last calendar year getting to 518 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 7: know Isaiah as a player and professional, much of the last 519 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 7: four months getting a full understanding of his legal situation. 520 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 7: On the legal side, we have done extensive research that includes, 521 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 7: but is not limited to, hearing from both sides of 522 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 7: the case and receiving the results of an independently administered 523 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 7: polygraph test okay before the allegations. We also spend a 524 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 7: great deal of time with Isaiah in the braft process 525 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 7: on campus, at the combine, at our facilities. His time 526 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 7: at Alabama with Tommy Reese also weighed heavily on our 527 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 7: assessment of his ability to operate successfully in a professional 528 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 7: environment if brought into our organization. Let's not forget that 529 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 7: Tommy Reese was is offensive coordinated Alabama. It is these 530 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 7: touch points and more than gave us necessary insights to 531 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 7: make this decision. With his legal matter resolved through a 532 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: no bill by a grand jury, Isaiah's focused on learning 533 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 7: from this experience while moving forward with his life and 534 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 7: his career. He's going to be on the fifty three, 535 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 7: So that means you've got I think, finally. 536 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: Quick, just some context on him the player for the 537 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: folks of us who aren't big college football fans. He's 538 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: a top fifty player in the country coming out of 539 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: high school. He signs with Alabama. He transferred out of 540 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: Alabama when Nick Saban retires. He was one of the 541 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: most coveted along with I mean, Caleb Downs was the most, 542 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: but he was right underneath him Seth McLaughlin, several monster 543 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: pieces on those Alabama teams transferred out. He transferred to 544 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: Texas last year and was one of the more coveted guys. 545 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: He is a dude. He flies ran four to thretey 546 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: nine at the Combine. He's a big time playmaker in 547 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: a lot of different ways and would have been a 548 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: Day to three pick Gaty been eligible. Would have been 549 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: the Day two, not Day three, second or third round 550 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: pick at work, probably second round had he not had 551 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: so essentially you've got a top fifty, top seventy five 552 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: player going. 553 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: Into the season. 554 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 7: He was a lot of people's first receiver. Yeah projected 555 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 7: out like, yeah, he was a stud. He was study electric. 556 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 7: So now you add that to your you basically had 557 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 7: another second round pick to your class here in Isaiah Bond. 558 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 7: But he's gonna make it and so at receiver, that 559 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 7: feels to me like you've got five locks. Now, yeah, 560 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 7: I think so too, because you've got Judy, You've got Tillman, 561 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 7: You've got Jamari Thrash, who I think has been very good. 562 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 7: You've got Isaiah Bond, and then I know some people 563 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 7: don't believe it, but DeAndre Carter is going to be 564 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 7: on this team. 565 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: I think those five are locks. And then it's just 566 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: a matter of is this if it's a six, is 567 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: it Deontae or somebody else? Or but then if it's six, 568 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: where does that come from? Another room? 569 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 7: And I listen, Gauge Larvadan has done everything you could 570 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 7: possibly ask of him. I think that Gauge larva Dan 571 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 7: has a chance to be that six guy. I also 572 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 7: think Gage Larvadan will be in this program. I think 573 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 7: like that's the goal. And I think that, you know, 574 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 7: next year, he could be in that DeAndre Carter role. 575 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 7: Now there could be a surprise, they could say we've 576 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 7: seen enough from him, But from my understanding of things, 577 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 7: like DeAndre Carter has been kept under bubble rep because 578 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 7: we have wanted this returner for so so long, and 579 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 7: I know that he's been sensational above. Ventron has raved 580 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 7: about him, but we haven't gotten that guy to. 581 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: The season yet. 582 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, Jaqem Grant, we tried. We've tried, tried so many guys. 583 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 7: It's like whoever we get injured, injured, injured. So they're 584 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 7: very high on him, so I think that he'll be there. 585 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 7: So like if you go all of a sudden, are 586 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 7: now you're at five receivers, maybe six, if you're down 587 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 7: at three quarterbacks, then you have some more possibilities there, 588 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 7: whether that be an extra offensive lineman, you know, because 589 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 7: quite frankly, Jackson Barton's been really good for you, and 590 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 7: there's a world where you might want to keep ten 591 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 7: offensive linemen on your initial fifty three. So that quarterback 592 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 7: position can allow you to do that going forward. And 593 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 7: I think that is that's something certainly that the Browns 594 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 7: are going to be paying attention to. 595 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it opens up a lot. Look, there's a 596 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: lot to unwrap here, and we haven't spent that much 597 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: time on things other than Dylan in the game. But 598 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: the news of the day, Joe Flacco, you're starting quarterback 599 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: for your Cleveland Browns. You have now had both of 600 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: your rookies play very very well in preseason game should 601 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: or first and then Dylan over the weekend was I 602 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: thought he was great. And then you have the it 603 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: now being official with Isaiah Bond that he is a 604 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown. 605 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 606 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 7: I mean, this rookie class has got a chance to 607 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 7: really be really transcendent and really turn this thing around, 608 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 7: because it looks like, you know, Harold Fannon is going 609 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 7: to give you everything you wanted out of a third 610 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 7: round pick and more. One thing that I should note 611 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 7: per Adam Schefter, these are the reported contract details three years, 612 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 7: three point zero one eight million, fully guaranteed. So Isaia 613 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 7: Bond will be on the fifty three man roster. Just yeah, 614 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 7: that's a fact. That's fact. 615 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pallisero says. 616 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: The contract is basically a player between the end of 617 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 7: round in the beginning of round three would make so, right, Yeah, 618 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 7: So that's where that's where that's at. So that he 619 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 7: and he has a chance, folks like if he is 620 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 7: what he is capable of being, he has a chance 621 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 7: at some point to be your number two. 622 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: Oh gosh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think 623 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: of a comp for him. 624 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 3: So Lan zero line says Jalen Waddle. 625 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. 626 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 7: And I've read a lot and talked to some people 627 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 7: who think he is going to be much more successful 628 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 7: in the National Football League than he was in college, 629 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 7: just because I like waddle. 630 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 631 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 3: It's a fast, yeah, good route runner. 632 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: He's twitchy though too, Like he's start stop, get the 633 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: ball in his hands. Yeah, Like they Texas did a 634 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: lot of stuff where he would they throw it behind 635 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: the line, and he's a really good once he has 636 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: the ball. He has a very he's a very natural runner. 637 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: He's not just a straight line guy. Like he makes 638 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: guys miss and stuff. So so that's a big one. 639 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: And then you know, we've operated this whole training camp, 640 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: this whole preseason without quinch On Judkins, and you know, 641 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: we believe that when he's here and when he's ready 642 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: to go, he's the best running back in this draft. 643 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: So that's gonna happen as well where he jumps into 644 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: this thing. You know, So with exception to genty, who 645 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: I think everyone thought was probably the best of the bunch, 646 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: but he's coming in this mix in a good fit. 647 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, there's there's a massive talent 648 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 2: influx that's happened here because of what we've seen from 649 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: the two quarterbacks now on the field and what we 650 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: have with Bond and hopefully Judkins coming along pretty soon. 651 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: So that's that's where you stand on that, And you're right, 652 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: this rookie class is like, if you would have went 653 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: back and read this all out to us at the combine, 654 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: this is what you're gonna end up with, you would 655 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: have said, where mad? 656 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: Impossible? But I said impossible. 657 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 658 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: Impossible? 659 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, we got two of the people that were projected 660 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 7: to be picked in the top five while we're at 661 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 7: the combine, plus a first round pick, plus a second 662 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 7: round pick. 663 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yet I mean it's a lot. Yeah yeah, 664 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: Well then that's we needed that. 665 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: Had to have it. We needed that, had to yep, 666 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: had to have it. Here is your schedule of the 667 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: week for your Browns. Today, no practice, no meetings and 668 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: lifting only today. Tuesday is a Wednesday, and what is 669 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: a Wednesday of practice week? So you're gonna practice around 670 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: one forty five on Tuesday. Wednesday, you're gonna practice around 671 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: one forty five. Thursday will be your walk through. That's 672 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: or that's your twelve to fifteen practice on Thursday. Friday, 673 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: you'll do the walkthrough, and then again Saturday one o'clock. 674 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Our only preseason game here at home. It is this Saturday, 675 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: and as preseasons games go, pretty good, you're probably gonna 676 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: get to see both rookies quarterbacks. You're gonna see Joe. 677 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: If Isaiah Bond can get up to speed quick enough, 678 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: you could see him. I mean this, as preseason games go, 679 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. One at one o'clock against the Rammies, Yeah, 680 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: pretty intriguing. 681 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not gonna see anybody from the Rams. 682 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: Did you see what McVeagh did over the weekend. I 683 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: don't know if you say the whole how many times 684 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: he threw. 685 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: A decent amount? 686 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 2: No, forty? 687 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 688 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: Sean mcfay does not give two blanks about the preseason. 689 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 7: No, we're throwing it every time. By the ways, that's 690 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 7: Ebnomt's some nice throws in that game. 691 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. He's like twenty seven to forty two 692 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: or something like that. 693 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 6: So Ceciliano was telling us he threw a couple of ropes. 694 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 6: So he's you know, he's he. Prior to him working 695 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 6: for us, he was the TV preseason play by play 696 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 6: guy for the Rams. Yeah, he said, do not be 697 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 6: surprised if the Rams today or tomorrow sign a running 698 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 6: back off the street and for the final preseason game 699 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 6: run him twenty five to thirty times. Yeah, they'll do 700 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 6: the opposite of what they did over the weekend. He 701 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 6: goes that the first teamers probably won't even fly to Cleveland, 702 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 6: and he won't even take him on the trip, stay home. 703 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: How can we have a league where there's that much 704 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: of a gap in thought of what to do with 705 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: these preseason games that a guy who won a Super 706 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: Bowl does not care at all. No meantime, some folks 707 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: who feel like Super Bowl contenders are playing their veterans 708 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: and giving them multiple series. Joe Burrow is going to 709 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: play a several series tonight, which is crazy to me. 710 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: I don't need to see Bro do anything of him Cincinnati, 711 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: and they're going to have him do it. 712 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 713 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: So it's just such a wide wide golf of how 714 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: to handle these preseason games. But that Rams things. 715 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: Like, don't be surprised, Like their whole intent will be 716 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 6: to get out of here as quickly as they got in. Yeah, yeah, 717 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 6: get in, get out, and let's go on, let's go 718 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 6: to week one. 719 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: And what our plan will be all along. It's usually 720 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: been that usually do a little dress rehearsal with our 721 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: vets is kind of the way that it goes. But like, 722 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: is that everybody you know? Is that? Do you need 723 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: to see Miles and Joel and Wyatt? I would say no. 724 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 7: Now, but if you're gonna put Flacco out there, you 725 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 7: gotta that line. You gotta have that line out there now. 726 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 7: Tevin Jenkins was excellent. I mean you could put Tevin 727 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 7: Jenkins in for Joel at left guard and say, okay, 728 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 7: this guy started a lot of second round pick like 729 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 7: feel okay about what we saw there, but yeah, you're 730 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 7: gonna have to have at least a good chunk those guys. 731 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: I don't want. 732 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 7: I don't need to see mileser Denzel. I think Miles 733 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 7: and Donzel are so critical to what we're doing Saturday. 734 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 6: You saw into the second quarter end. 735 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 7: Of the first and Dowan needs some work Anddwan had 736 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 7: a couple misses in that game, and then once he 737 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 7: got locked in, it was we had some real good pockets. 738 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: But that's good. 739 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 7: These guys set and said, Indwan missed, you know, Dowan 740 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 7: missed the last seven games. Last year said missed the 741 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 7: last six. These are super established veterans. These are young 742 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 7: players selling their rookie deals who have missed time with 743 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 7: injury that you want to get them some reps. 744 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you're gonna hear from Dylan Gabriel after 745 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: his performance on Saturday. Still a lot to unpack from 746 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: that preseason game number two as well. Uh, it is 747 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: a big Newsy day here. Joe Flacco the starting quarterback 748 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Your listened Cleveland Brown's Daily. 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Go ahead, 766 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: Duck diazie and thank goodness, right, I mean, thank dude. 767 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 7: What would that game of I mean, even from just 768 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 7: an organizational standpoint, there'd have been very little evaluation that 769 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 7: you could have gotten out of there, and something that 770 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 7: is critically important at that position. No disrespect to new Puntley, 771 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 7: who was again solid when he came out there, and 772 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 7: you know, hopefully he gets us lands and opportunity soon. 773 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 7: But man, that was so huge that he was playing, 774 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 7: and it brought some juice to the game, and obviously 775 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 7: he did a nice job. And again under a lot 776 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 7: of pressure. I give both of these guys. George Sanders 777 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 7: was under a lot of pressure. 778 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 779 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 7: It was a most watched game on NFL network in 780 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 7: a preseason in a decade, and you know everybody was watching, 781 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 7: and you know that there is just as there are 782 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 7: people who are so firmly in his corner for a 783 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 7: variety of reasons. There are people that are not wanting 784 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 7: to see him successful for a variety of reasons which 785 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 7: are garbage. There was a lot of pressure on Dylan 786 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 7: Gabriel because the same is true. There are people who 787 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 7: wanted to see them give, but there are also a 788 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 7: lot of people didn't want to see Ylan Gabriel succeed 789 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 7: in that game. 790 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope those weren't Browns fans. I know. I mean, 791 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: I just I don't understand. I know that there were, 792 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 2: but I just think that that's awful. 793 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: That's the dude. It's the war, both. 794 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: Sides of it. It's just ridiculous. The world better. I 795 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: agree with you. I think he was under I honestly 796 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: think he was under more, significantly more pressure than should 797 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: Dour was in week one. Shouldur week one was like 798 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 2: house money, yep, like I get a chance here, right really? 799 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: And he's he lived up to it and was great 800 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: and lived up to all of it. All the natural 801 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: things that you and I saw on tape, going all 802 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: the way back to the combine, the evaluation, all of it. 803 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: So much of what he was in college just a 804 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: very natural thrower the football Gabriel's pressure was trying to 805 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: get back healthy from a hamstring. It's yours if you 806 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: want it, but if you don't get it that you 807 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: might not get another shot in the preseason to start 808 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: a game. Probably wouldn't. And then coming off of what 809 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: the guy drafted behind you did in the opener, man, 810 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: that's just compounds. And he was great. He was really great. Yeah. 811 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: I thought he was very poised, very business approach and 812 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: everything he did, and certainly capable of operating this offense 813 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: against ones, against anybody available. Post game, had this to 814 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: say about what he was taking away from the performance. 815 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 8: You know, for me, I think just continue to learn 816 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 8: from maybe some things that you know can't happen, like turnovers, 817 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 8: but I think other than that, there was flashes of 818 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 8: being very consistent and clean as an offense. And I 819 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 8: think as as long as we consistently, you know, work 820 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 8: at that and try to put more of those kind 821 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 8: of drafts together, you see our defense playing really well 822 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 8: and just putting each other in better positions. 823 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: The entertainer competitor comment, which he said during the game 824 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: with Aditi on the on the television version. He then 825 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: discussed that post game just to make sure, it was 826 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: abundantly clear. Here is that comment. 827 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 8: You know, all you in this room are entertainers and 828 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 8: you have a job to do, and I respect it, 829 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 8: all right, And I'm a. 830 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 4: Competitor, so I have a job to do as well. 831 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 8: And I think, you know, just understanding that, That's how 832 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 8: I've lived by and I've said that multiple times. So 833 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 8: definitely not a new quote, but something that I've definitely 834 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 8: said before. 835 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 2: This goes back to, this goes with him. This, This 836 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: goes back to I want to say his time at 837 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 2: Oklahoma is the first time he said that. He definitely 838 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: said it at Oregon last year. But I think that 839 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: comment goes all the way those that entertainer competitor thing. 840 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: I think that goes all the way back to his 841 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: time at Oklahoma where he said that, And didn't the 842 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 2: coach of Oregon say that. Coach of Oregon said it, 843 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: but while An said it, but he was at Oklahoma. 844 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: He was not at Oregon. No, it was two years 845 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: ago when they played Colorado, but it was Dylan was 846 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: not at Oregon. 847 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 3: It was bone x exactly at that. 848 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 2: Time at Oregon, all right, So year is what he 849 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: was thinking on the pick six? 850 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 8: You know, I look back and definitely want to just 851 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 8: throw it away, don't force anything, you know on a keeper, 852 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 8: and felt like, you know, there's just miscommunication on my 853 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 8: part and something that we got to clean up. But 854 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 8: I will and we'll make sure. 855 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: That here he is. On his competitive nature and how 856 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: he's always going to sling it. 857 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 4: I think the response is everything. 858 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 8: In many cases there's you know, maybe mistakes on display 859 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 8: or maybe plays it you know you want back, But 860 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 8: for the most part, there's got to be that continuous response, 861 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 8: you know, and competitive competitive nature to continue to go 862 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 8: out there and compete, you know, and I'm a gun slinger. 863 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 8: I'm continue to sling it, you know, and be aggressive 864 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 8: that way. 865 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was really good, really accurate, all 866 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: of those things. Both the rookies look good. Speaking of rookies, 867 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: Adam Schefter in the last couple of minutes. Though Cleveland's 868 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: second round pick, quinch On Judkins will not face any charges, 869 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: he and the Browns have still have still been unable 870 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: to reach a deal and may not until the end 871 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 2: of an NFL investigation. 872 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: So it's curious about that. 873 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 7: And what this hang up is going to be about, 874 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 7: clearly is how much of his contract is guaranteed yep, 875 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 7: because the players picked right before him and the player 876 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 7: picked right after him have fully guaranteed contracts. 877 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 4: Yep. 878 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 7: And my guess is that the Browns, given what's happened, 879 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 7: are not prepared to offer him a fully guaranteed contract 880 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 7: because if they were, he would be here. 881 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: Now. 882 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: That also. 883 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 7: Is interesting juxtaposed to what we read earlier. Again, these 884 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 7: are reports. I don't know this to be true, but 885 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 7: Adam Schefter said that Isaiah Bond signed a three year, 886 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 7: fully guaranteed contract with the Cleveland Browns. 887 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 3: Those are just facts. 888 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 7: It feels like that's got to be the only hang 889 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 7: up there, So I'm not sure what that is. Yeah, 890 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 7: and it says they may not be able to reach 891 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 7: a deal until the end of any NFL investigation. 892 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: Now, if I'm QUINJN. 893 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 7: Judkins, I know you want the guaranteed contract, but like 894 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 7: I think it's important to get in here and it's 895 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 7: important to play. 896 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: Now. 897 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 7: I think it's critical to get in here and play. 898 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 7: And if you hold up her unt of the bargain, 899 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 7: don't worry about nothing to worry about. 900 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 3: It's going to be guaranteed. 901 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry about it because. 902 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 3: You're on a rookie deal like handle your business, handle 903 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: the business, you'll be here. 904 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: You'll be here, They'll take care of you. Yes, that's 905 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 2: who the organization does. 906 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 7: So again, I don't know how much or how little, 907 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 7: like how big of the discrepancy off of fully guaranteed 908 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 7: it is, but I hope that they're able to work 909 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 7: that out because I think it's very important. 910 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 2: Now. 911 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 7: You wonder, with Amani Marshall playing so well, you know, 912 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 7: does do the brown say you know it will roll 913 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 7: with Ford and Samson, then Marshall will be our big back. 914 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 7: Kind of makes sense because it doesn't make sense if 915 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 7: Quinchon's not here. It does not make sense to have Ford, 916 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 7: Samson and p are Strong. They're the same guy. No, 917 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 7: stylistically somni Marshall, I think would certainly be he's done, 918 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 7: he's impressed them, would be you know enough. I think 919 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 7: perhaps in that role now he was out there the 920 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 7: whole time with Dylan, he got the touchdown. He had 921 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 7: a couple of nice Blitz pick ups. 922 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: Again. 923 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 7: But if I'm Quinchean, really I think just as a 924 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 7: brown I'm a Browns fan. First of all, I want 925 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 7: this resolved quickly. But I do think that if you 926 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 7: know that you're gonna go and you're gonna that that 927 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 7: was out of character, that's not gonna happen. 928 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: You're gonna do what you need to do. 929 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 7: You're gonna be here for four years, You'll be very productive, 930 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 7: and that contract will in essence be guaranteed. 931 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I would concur sir all right. Coming up next, 932 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 2: Coach from Sunday, breaking down the win in Philly, his 933 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: thoughts on his quarterback, among other things. Coming up next 934 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: to to Cleveland Browns Daily. 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We're gonna 944 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 2: get to coach here in just a little bit. A 945 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 2: couple other things too that jumped out. In preseason game 946 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 2: number two, we spent a lot of time on Gabriel 947 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 2: and his play. Who else did you think had a 948 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 2: nice Saturday in Philly? 949 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 7: A lot of people, honestly, And it really is on 950 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 7: that defensive side of the football is where I'm going 951 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 7: to start. 952 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 3: Actually I'll go I'll go offense first. 953 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 7: We can do both all right, Offensively, Guys that I 954 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 7: really liked in that game. I continue to be very 955 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 7: impressed with Luke Whippler, and I think that when he 956 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 7: has to become the starting center for the Cleveland Browns, 957 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 7: the Browns will be in very good hands with him. 958 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 7: Also staying along that line, I thought Tevin Jenkins was 959 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 7: excellent in this game. In his thirty eight snaps, he 960 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 7: played very very well. In fact, did not allow a 961 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 7: pressure in his pass blocking snaps. I thought that was 962 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 7: a great bounce back. He was a little shaky in 963 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 7: the first one. Great to see him play well there. 964 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 7: Jamari Thrash continues to impress me and look like he's 965 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 7: ready to be an NFL receiver and. 966 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: Contribute to this football team. Gage Larvadan, same thing. 967 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 7: Looks like an NFL receiver to me would have no 968 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 7: problem fore ends up making the fifty three man roster. 969 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 7: I definite certainly could see that. I also thought Amani 970 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 7: Marshall continues to show me enough that in the event 971 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 7: that we're talking about here that this impasse lasts a 972 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 7: little bit longer than it should, then we'd all like 973 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 7: it too that he could be that third back for 974 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 7: you and more kind of that power back for you. Defensively, 975 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 7: there was a lot Jackson bart and I mentioned him 976 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 7: earlier as well. Defensively there's a lot to like. Okay, first, well, 977 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 7: Isaiah Maguire looks ready to wreck. He played six snaps 978 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 7: and in those six snaps two pressures, a sack, a quarterback, hit, 979 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 7: made a tackle, had a run stop. I mean, I 980 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 7: don't know more you want from the guy, but he 981 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 7: looks ready. Alex right, we saw last move. He looks 982 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 7: so ready up and down. Cam Thomas was in the 983 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 7: backfield a bunch. Julian Aquara. Julian Aquara two sacks in 984 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 7: the first game. I know it doesn't show up as 985 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 7: a sack in this one, but he hits dtr to 986 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 7: the point where the ball goes up in the air 987 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 7: and gets picked off by E. J. Henry for a 988 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 7: pick six. Shelby Harris was all over the place in 989 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 7: his nine steps, all over the place. Aiden Huntington continues 990 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 7: to be a beast. And I've we have six. We 991 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 7: have six defensive ends who should be on fifty three 992 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 7: man rosters, and we have six defensive tackles who should 993 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 7: be on fifty three man rosters. And that, to me 994 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 7: is where if the Browns are going to make a 995 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 7: move at the quarnerback position or something, That to me 996 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 7: is maybe where it happens like you're able to get 997 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 7: a cornerback because you are able to trade one of 998 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 7: these defensive linemen. The young linebackers of this team, Bookie Watson, 999 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 7: I thought his pursuit was excellent, was running all over 1000 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 7: the place. Jerome Baker had an excellent game. Not a 1001 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 7: young linebacker, but played well. On Briggs young defensive tackle 1002 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 7: again played well, and then Easton Mascarinus. Arnold is fun 1003 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 7: to watch. He is a heat seeking missile. I think 1004 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 7: he's somebody they certainly want to keep in the program. 1005 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 7: I don't think there's any way that they'll be able 1006 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 7: to I don't think he can make the fifty three. 1007 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 7: But this guy led usc and tackles last year led 1008 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 7: Oregon statean tackles the year before, had seven in this 1009 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 7: game to lead the team. I think he's got eleven 1010 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 7: in the two games he's been. He's been great, a 1011 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 7: guy that continues to make plays as well as Nick 1012 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 7: need him, and we might need him, might need him. 1013 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 7: We might need him because when you're going young brock 1014 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 7: rock like that, when you're going listen. I'm a big 1015 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 7: fan of cam Mitchell's. I like the kid a lot, 1016 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 7: and he has made some good plays for us, But 1017 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 7: this was kind of a camp in a couple of 1018 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 7: weeks for him to go out there and like seize 1019 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 7: that job. And it has been anything but it has 1020 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 7: been rough. He has been picked on and that to me, 1021 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 7: it has been a bummer. Miles Harden I thought played 1022 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 7: better this week, but Nick neat him. You know, he's 1023 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 7: played well both weeks. You know, it was his tip 1024 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 7: that led to the interception. It was wiped off due 1025 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 7: to a penalty, but interception last week. So those those 1026 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 7: are the guys that really kind of stood out to 1027 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 7: me this week. 1028 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 2: What did you make of the kicking situation? 1029 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 7: Well, dude, we just don't know. Yeah, we just don't know. 1030 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 7: What I would say is. 1031 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he crushed it. 1032 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 3: Schmidt looked great. 1033 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,439 Speaker 7: Siriani tried to ice him, tried to ice him. Kevin 1034 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 7: wasn't having it. He went two for two on his 1035 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 7: field goals. The one at the end of the first 1036 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 7: half from forty nine was right down Broadway. Now d 1037 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 7: Hop made his extra point and his field goal too, 1038 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 7: kind of snuck it inside the right up right on 1039 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 7: the field goal. But I thought Schmidt looked real good. 1040 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 7: You know, Sileano obviously knows him very well. He's a 1041 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 7: guy that you know at Syracuse. Won the lou Grose 1042 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 7: Award as the best kicker in college football. I still 1043 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 7: think it's d Hops. I think that there's I think 1044 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 7: can tra Actually it almost has to be, but we'll see. 1045 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 3: Let me pull it up. So I'm pretty sure d 1046 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 3: Hop is owed. 1047 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 7: And listen, deep was so great a couple of years ago. 1048 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 7: He can be that guy again, fantastic. I love Dustin 1049 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 7: Hopkins and he's a great dude. So if the Browns 1050 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 7: were to cut him this year, they're still on the 1051 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 7: hook for some money, as I would understand it, Yeah, 1052 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 7: there would be dead money of basically two four points 1053 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 7: like six million bucks over the next three years. Yeah, 1054 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 7: all right, good stuff even more than that. Yeah, he's 1055 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 7: I think they'll try to keep Schmidt around. But yeah, 1056 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 7: de Hop's gonna be the week one kicker I would expect, all. 1057 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 2: Right, second hour of the program coming up next the 1058 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: Browns being linked to a star defensive end who could 1059 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 2: be on the move. We'll get you the details on that, 1060 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 2: but first we go to the podium Coach Stefanski from 1061 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 2: day breaking down the win in Philly. That's coming up 1062 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: in the second hour. You listen to Cleveland Bron's Daily 1063 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: were presented by bally Bett, official sports winning party of 1064 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 1065 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN 1066 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland presented by bally Bett Sports Book, an official sports 1067 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 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Elk is a proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1072 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 2: And now here is head coach Kevin Stefanski from the 1073 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 2: Podium Presented by Vivid Seeds purchase your official fan Experience 1074 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: package today for the ultimate game Day Coach on Sunday 1075 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 2: breaking down the win over Philly. 1076 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 5: Coaches are meeting, got to watch the tape from yesterday, 1077 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 5: and then we'll bring the players in tomorrow for a 1078 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 5: lift and a run and really get ready for this week. 1079 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 5: We'll treat this week as a regular season schedule. We'll 1080 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 5: give the guys a normal game plan as you would 1081 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 5: getting ready for the game on Saturday. 1082 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 4: We'll treat each day like we would now. 1083 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 5: We will do more competitive periods than we would say 1084 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 5: in the regular season, so we'll do plenty of Browns 1085 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 5: versus Browns in practice, as well as introducing carded periods 1086 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 5: where we'll be simulating the Rams offensive defense. 1087 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 4: So big week for the football team. 1088 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 5: Was pleased with how the guys handled last week, both 1089 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 5: the practices the game itself yesterday, And like I told. 1090 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 4: You, guys, there's so much to learn from in that game. 1091 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 5: And that's the part for us as coaches that we 1092 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 5: have to point out things that we have to get 1093 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 5: cleaned up, even if you weren't in there on that rep. 1094 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 5: And I think that's a big part of learning is 1095 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 5: seeing and doing and then correcting mistakes, but please with 1096 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 5: the effort and then looking forward to this week. With that, 1097 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 5: I'll take any questions. 1098 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 9: Do you have any help update on Kenny and Strad 1099 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,959 Speaker 9: or do you expect them to be increase their level 1100 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 9: participation in practice this week? 1101 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 4: I hope. 1102 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 5: So we really have to take those day by day, 1103 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 5: so I don't know where that ends up towards the 1104 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 5: end of the week, but I'm hopeful. 1105 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 10: Hey, Kevin, how did Dylan's hamstring hold up after playing 1106 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 10: a half yesterday? 1107 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? Good. 1108 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 5: I don't think he's one hundred percent, but I don't 1109 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 5: know that anybody's one hundred percent even at this point, 1110 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 5: so but I think he came out okay. 1111 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 10: And then when you went back and watched that, did 1112 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 10: you notice anything else about his performance has stood out 1113 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 10: to you? 1114 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 5: I think the guys did a nice job of playing 1115 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 5: on time. I think I mentioned to you guys yesterday 1116 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 5: the third down conversions early were good, and the good 1117 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 5: part was versus multiple coverages, So I thought the guys 1118 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 5: were where they're supposed to be on a give and play. 1119 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 5: Protection was good, and you know we're able to find completions, 1120 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: but those third down conversions were huge. 1121 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 10: Hey, Kevin, we saw DK Henry make that interception and 1122 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 10: he turned front touchdown. What have you seen from him 1123 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 10: this camp? 1124 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 5: Well, you know he's a later rival for us, coming 1125 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 5: from Philly, so that was pretty cool for him to 1126 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 5: have that moment in the football game. But really a 1127 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 5: good scheme fit plays really hard, great length, and you 1128 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 5: know I've mentioned. 1129 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 4: You guys before. 1130 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 5: I think that's a really really strong group. But those 1131 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 5: guys just play so hard and that's really a lot 1132 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 5: of what our defense is built on. 1133 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 11: Just you know, any player that you would bring in 1134 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 11: this week with it be an address rehearsal week, in 1135 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 11: three four weeks in the camp, just how much of 1136 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 11: a learning curve would that be to kind of get 1137 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 11: up and run. 1138 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 5: And I think that's kind of what we do, Joe. 1139 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 5: Happens during the season can happen in training camp where 1140 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 5: you got you have to get players up to speed quickly. 1141 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 4: That's that happens. 1142 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 5: Sometimes you get a guy on a Wednesday and they 1143 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 5: have to play on a Sunday. So that's part of 1144 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 5: our job as coaches is to get them ready to roll. 1145 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 12: Kevin, I know that you've talked about the importance of 1146 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 12: guys like Cedric Tillman and Jamari Thrash this season and 1147 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 12: how they're going to be for that room. Jamari had 1148 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 12: a really big game. So looking at what he was 1149 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 12: able to do in that second preseason game, what did 1150 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 12: you like about it and how do you see that 1151 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 12: maybe carrying into the regular season as you look to 1152 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 12: get the most out of him. 1153 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Jamari is a very dependable player, gets 1154 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 5: open catches of football, you know, the. 1155 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 4: Most important parts of the job he does. 1156 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 5: The quarterbacks have a lot of trust in him, and 1157 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 5: it was good to see him make those plays and 1158 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 5: make a couple you know, extra yards out there. He's 1159 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 5: done that in the first couple games as well. 1160 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 13: Hey, Kevin, I know you said yesterday when you got 1161 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 13: asked about Dewan playing that it was an individual decision 1162 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,359 Speaker 13: for every player when you were deciding who to sit, 1163 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 13: who to play, But specifically, why did you want to 1164 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,720 Speaker 13: see him play some snaps and said play some snaps 1165 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 13: then yesterday? 1166 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, like you said, Ashley, try to be intentional about 1167 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 5: the specific players. Said missed a lot of time at 1168 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 5: the end of last season, so it felt like he 1169 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 5: should get some work out there. Dewan, obviously playing left tackle, 1170 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 5: has not had as much work as playing right tackle, 1171 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 5: so felt like he should get some work. And we'll 1172 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 5: continue to get work throughout these throughout practice and the games. 1173 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 5: As you know, you're also getting a ton of work 1174 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 5: in those joint practices. 1175 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 4: So all of it is valuable and all of it 1176 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 4: is in, you know, with. 1177 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 5: The goal in mind of getting those guys ready September seventh. 1178 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 13: And then like along those lines, then why Si Mason Carson, 1179 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 13: Dylan Harold, like just being rookies? What was the rationale 1180 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 13: with them? Was it just the work in joint practices? 1181 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, those guys played in the first game, so 1182 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 5: playing in the first game, the practice versus Carolina, the 1183 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 5: practices in Philly felt like they got a lot of 1184 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 5: good work, a lot of plays. You know, we were 1185 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 5: intentional about how many plays they got in Philly, knowing 1186 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 5: that that would be the plan. But those are all 1187 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 5: guys that you'll see out there this week, okay. 1188 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 14: And even playing the regulars in this third game is 1189 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 14: different from last year, in previous years that you've done. 1190 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 14: Why did you decide to play regulars in game three? 1191 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 4: I believe we played regulars last year in game. 1192 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 14: Three, Tony, so your quarterback didn't play last year, yeah, Watson. 1193 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yours this. 1194 00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 5: I think typically Tony have had the We've usually had 1195 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 5: the joint practice week two, so we've played our guys 1196 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 5: sometimes a little bit in week one and then a 1197 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 5: good bit in week three, with week two being the 1198 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 5: joint practice. 1199 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 4: Obviously a difference this year will. 1200 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 5: Be that joint practice in week one and then this 1201 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 5: year just feel like that's what this team needs to 1202 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 5: get ready. Try to every single year make decisions based 1203 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 5: on what the guys need. 1204 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 4: So that's what we'll do. 1205 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 15: How do you feel like they all did? I know 1206 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 15: that the competition was interrupted by injuries to the three 1207 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 15: of those guys, but just how do you think it 1208 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 15: kind of went well? 1209 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 4: You know, and we've talked about this. We take this 1210 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 4: all the way back to. 1211 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 5: April with our player development and getting these guys up 1212 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 5: to speed, and I've been really really pleased with that 1213 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 5: group and how hard they've worked, how they've pushed each other, 1214 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 5: and I think they're all getting better. I think you 1215 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 5: see all moments in practice, you see moments in games 1216 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 5: where these guys are getting better. Obviously, like you mentioned, 1217 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 5: injuries are the worst part of this game, and it 1218 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 5: you know it keeps a guy out of a practice 1219 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 5: or a game. 1220 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 4: That's that's not ideal. 1221 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 5: But I go all the way back to April with 1222 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 5: with the work that these guys are put. 1223 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 16: In along those lines. 1224 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 17: Kevin, obviously, with the injuries, you haven't gotten a chance 1225 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 17: to evaluate all these guys probably as. 1226 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 2: Fully as you wanted to. 1227 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 17: But Andrew did mention earlier in camp that keeping for 1228 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 17: is something you guys will consider. Is that something you 1229 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 17: think is still on the menu despite how some of 1230 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 17: these injuries sort of played out and derailed some of 1231 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 17: the evaluation. 1232 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we'll let it play out as we 1233 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 5: get closer to the cutdown. Those are all conversations that 1234 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 5: we are always having. But it's those are tough decisions, 1235 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 5: So you know, I'd like to keep everybody, but not realistic. 1236 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 17: And then Amani Marshall in each of these preseason games, 1237 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 17: he had the really nice block on the one touchdown 1238 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 17: pass that should or obviously had the touchdown yesterday, He's 1239 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 17: really flashed, it seems like in some of these moments. 1240 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 17: Just how have you sort of seen him grow and 1241 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 17: develop throughout this camp? 1242 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1243 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 5: Mine, he's done a very very good job for us. 1244 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 5: Smart dependable runs, hard has some position flex for us, 1245 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 5: so excited about his development. 1246 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 18: Kevin, continuing with the run game, what did you see 1247 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 18: from Pierre yesterday? And you had that fifty four yard game, 1248 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 18: but overall, just his growth in the run game, what 1249 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 18: did you see from him yesterday specifically? 1250 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously good to get Pierre out there coming off 1251 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 5: of his injury. But I thought the run game there 1252 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 5: were good moments for us up front. A couple of 1253 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 5: times we were mis ideed and had unblocked guys in 1254 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 5: the hole when we blocked it clean, and then you 1255 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 5: saw Pierre and certainly the other guys put their foot 1256 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 5: in the ground and were able to make some yards. 1257 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 5: But that's you know, the run game really does take 1258 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 5: all eleven and I think you saw that at times 1259 00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 5: when it was good. We had receivers blocking safeties us 1260 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 5: in and out of the right plays. So it's just 1261 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 5: so important that everybody's on the same page in the 1262 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 5: wrong game. 1263 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 10: Hey, Kevin, I don't think you got asked about it yesterday. 1264 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 10: Is Dustin your Dustin Hopkins your guy for week one 1265 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 10: or is that still to be determined? 1266 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1267 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 5: I think week one was coming soon enough, but all 1268 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 5: of our guys are doing a great job. Dustin's doing 1269 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 5: a great job. Excited for Andre to make those kicks 1270 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 5: in that game. But yeah, well we'll save week one 1271 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 5: for week one. 1272 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 10: I mean, was there a I'm sure there was a reason. 1273 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 10: Why did you decide to have Dustin kick early and 1274 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 10: then go to Andre yesterday? 1275 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 4: That was always the plan. 1276 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 5: I want to give Andre, you know, a good shot 1277 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 5: at some live game reps. 1278 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 14: Two other questions about the kicking operation. 1279 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: First off, was. 1280 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 14: This was it a snap that was the problem or 1281 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 14: a hold on that on. 1282 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 5: That pH Yeah, the snap wasn't where we needed to be. 1283 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 14: The Second of all, it seems in both games so 1284 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 14: far there have been pats that look to be no good, 1285 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 14: but they call them good, so it doesn't matter on 1286 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 14: the scoreboard. But seeing those on video, are you a 1287 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 14: little concerned? That looks like three pat misses actually in 1288 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 14: two games. 1289 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can only go off whether they call it 1290 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 5: good or not good, Tony, but I'm very pleased with 1291 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 5: the work that these guys are getting in, both in 1292 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 5: practice and in the games. 1293 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 15: Yeah, Kevin, I don't know if you can answer this 1294 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 15: or not, but would you say that both of the 1295 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 15: route runners on that levels concept that turned into the 1296 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 15: pick six. Did both of them kind. 1297 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,479 Speaker 4: Of run the wrong route? 1298 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 5: I'm going to protect the identities Mary kay, but we 1299 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 5: did not do what we were supposed to do on 1300 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 5: that play, and we will get that coached up. That's 1301 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 5: like I mentioned you guys yesterday. You really should never 1302 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 5: have an interception on a play like that. It should 1303 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 5: be a safe throw, throw away run. But we have 1304 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 5: to do a better job of coaching that and executing that. 1305 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know. 1306 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 12: Alex Wright, Julian Aquara, Joe Try and Choinka they've made 1307 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 12: plays on that edge. Isaam maguire in that room too. 1308 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 12: What else do you need to see from that group 1309 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 12: in these last practices, that final preseason game, as you 1310 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 12: shape out that starting role opposite of Miles, just. 1311 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 5: Continue on the path, Cam. I've been really really pleased 1312 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 5: with the effort of those guys, really pleased with the 1313 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 5: development of those guys. Like we talked about, you want 1314 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 5: to keep everybody. I want to have a ninety man roster, 1315 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 5: but you can't. So those are tough decisions to make. 1316 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 5: But that's a really really competitive group. 1317 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 12: Does it feel like a situation that you could go 1318 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 12: through that rotation, like maybe in the past, or is it. 1319 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 12: Are you guys looking more towards having a solid starter 1320 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 12: specifically in that position. 1321 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1322 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 5: I think depth is so important and it's the name 1323 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 5: of the game in a. 1324 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 4: Lot of ways. And I mentioned you guys before. 1325 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 5: The way we play defensively do waive our defensive line. 1326 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 5: So it's really important that those guys that go in 1327 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 5: with our second group that they there's no drop off 1328 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 5: and they're fresh. But those the guys like you mentioned 1329 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 5: are giving us some very very good real reps. 1330 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, coach from the podium. From Sunday, 1331 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,919 Speaker 2: we'll go around the league. Coming up next, you listen 1332 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily. 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This was reported It started 1342 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 2: yesterday that the Bengals are back open to receiving trade 1343 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 2: offers for Trey Hendrickson. They have not gotten a deal done. 1344 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 2: Remember they opened up the floodgates and said, if you 1345 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 2: want to acquire him, go ahead and do so. And 1346 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 2: that was in the off season, and then he reported 1347 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 2: and there was some talk that they were close. Now 1348 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 2: Diana Russini reporting today that it doesn't have to be 1349 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 2: in terms of that, it doesn't have to be a 1350 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 2: defensive end in return. But what the Bengals are looking 1351 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 2: for is a twenty twenty six to one and a 1352 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 2: young defensive player. That is the package they're looking for. 1353 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 3: What is really crazy to me and is. 1354 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 7: Joe Burrow on some level has to be very sad 1355 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 7: that he was drafted to that franchise. And the reason 1356 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 7: for that is not because it's the Cincinnati, not because 1357 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 7: it's the Bank. It's because of the ownership's wealth. Is 1358 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 7: because they own an NFL team, yes, and not because 1359 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 7: they are wealthy and thus we're able to purchase an 1360 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 7: NFL team. Because if Joe Flacco was I'm sorry if 1361 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 7: Joe Burrow was on the Cleveland Browns, for example, Trey 1362 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 7: Hendrickson would be signed, Chase would have been sign Higgins 1363 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 7: would signed no contract situations, keep the band together, Let's 1364 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 7: go in a super Bowl, yep. If he was on 1365 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 7: a great number of teams where that is the case, 1366 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 7: that's how those owners would operate. Now that's one of 1367 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 7: things I love about our ownership group. We have not 1368 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 7: gotten the hassles do anything and spend whatever to make 1369 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 7: it happen. We just have not gotten that quarterback, even 1370 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 7: though we've shot our shot, and hopefully we will get 1371 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 7: that solved here in the future, because once we do, 1372 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 7: we have the organization that would maximize everything around it. 1373 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 7: This is a team that hasn't made the playoffs two 1374 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 7: years in a row. Last year is because of their defense, 1375 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 7: and they're heaving and Han and Nicolin diming but braining 1376 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 7: NFL sack leader. 1377 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 2: It's crazy, it is. 1378 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 7: He also was Burrow, I would want out of there. 1379 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 7: I'd be like, You're never gonna be able to maximize 1380 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 7: what I'm able to do because that's just not your 1381 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 7: business model. 1382 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that. Trey also, he has an 1383 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 2: inflated view, like if he thinks he's a forty million 1384 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 2: dollars a year player. Like I know, he led the 1385 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 2: league in sacks, but he's not Miles. He's not TJ. 1386 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 2: He's not to me. If he could get to a 1387 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: Max Crosby number, oh see, I think he's like thirty eight. 1388 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 2: He's in his thirties. 1389 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 7: Okay, he's at seventeen and a half each of the 1390 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 7: last two years. He's had at least thirteen and a 1391 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 7: half in four of the last five years. 1392 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 2: Good he is. 1393 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 7: I mean Miles is on another level where he's had 1394 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 7: fourteenth straight and seven straight seasons I think, or fourteen. 1395 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 7: Let me see how many straight seasons Miles had fourteenth 1396 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 7: straight in fourteen, in how many straight one, two, three 1397 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 7: and four straight seasons? So Milesgeards had fourteen sacks or 1398 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 7: more in four straight seasons. There's only seven people who 1399 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 7: have done that. The other six are all Hall of famers, 1400 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 7: So he's not that far off. If you look at 1401 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 7: the last three, he's at fourteen eight, seventeen and a half, 1402 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 7: seventeen and a half. 1403 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 3: Listen, I think he's he's. 1404 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 7: A top five, oh for sure, if you're getting paid 1405 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 7: last and he's probably not asking for a three You 1406 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 7: give him a two year deal and you pay him 1407 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 7: what the elite guys get, and you would feel pretty 1408 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 7: I think you would think he has, you know, a 1409 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 7: couple of eight years left. And let's not forget twenty 1410 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 7: twenty one when they went to the super Bowl. In 1411 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 7: that run, he had three and a half sacks and 1412 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 7: a force fumble in their playoff run. He was very 1413 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 7: good in their playoff run. 1414 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: It's interesting like they linked us to him, with us 1415 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 2: the Colts, and I can't remember who the is. I'm 1416 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 2: gonna go to Carolina. 1417 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 7: I'm gonna explain the US part of it. I think 1418 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 7: this is these are not scores. This is just what 1419 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 7: I know. We called to find out everything because information, Yeah, 1420 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 7: it's information. 1421 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 3: What do you want for Trey Anderson? Okay, that's information. 1422 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, that we're able to file away and have a 1423 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 7: better assessment of the overall market because we're ones collecting 1424 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 7: every single bit of information we can. 1425 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know that a young I 1426 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 2: can't see any scenario or Mike Brown, even if it 1427 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 2: was more than that, would trade him here, No, no chance. 1428 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 2: But the idea of a one and a young defensive player, 1429 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 2: like we actually have those things. We have two ones, 1430 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 2: we have the young defensive players. So not to say 1431 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 2: that it's here, I'm with you on that, but I 1432 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 2: tend to think he's going to be a Bengal. I 1433 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 2: think this is all just negotiating stuff, and I think 1434 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 2: until he misses a game, wake me up when that happens. 1435 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Micah Parsons too. I think 1436 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 2: a lot of this is just posturing. 1437 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 3: It seems though. 1438 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 7: So one of the things that I read on this 1439 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 7: one though, and you're probably more plugged in than perhaps 1440 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 7: who I read, or maybe that's one of the people 1441 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 7: you've heard from, is that he feels like it's been 1442 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 7: three years kind of brewing, and that it's personal. To 1443 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 7: Trey Hendrickson, that's when things can get to the where 1444 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 7: you'd actually be will screw you. 1445 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 2: There's there's no doubt that there is an element to 1446 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 2: it in large Part two, because they've had to do 1447 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 2: Chase and Higgins and he's like, where's mine, So like 1448 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 2: they've done these other things. So yeah, I think that, 1449 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 2: but I don't know how it couldn't be personal. Yeah, 1450 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 2: that's like the Mica thing in Dallas and the people 1451 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 2: like it's personal. Yeah, I bet it is. To him. 1452 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's like, what do you mean You're not? This 1453 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 7: is what I've done. I deserve to be paid at 1454 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 7: this level. Like let's go and then you wait and 1455 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 7: now I think for Jerriots all theater. But you know 1456 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 7: it's a little different. Yeah, that one, I'm not worried about. 1457 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 8: No. 1458 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 2: There was a trade over the weekend between the Eagles 1459 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 2: and Texans. The Eagles received wide receiver John Metchi and 1460 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 2: a twenty twenty sixth round pick. The Texans received from 1461 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 2: a Brownside and Harrison Bryant in a twenty twenty six 1462 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 2: fifth We had primetime football last night Bills and Bears, 1463 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 2: and last night's primetime game. Caleb Williams looked very, very 1464 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 2: good on this one. Six ten, one oh seven. They 1465 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 2: got a ton of weapons. It just when I watched 1466 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 2: them play last night, and I just watched as long 1467 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 2: as Caleb was in. It didn't need to see anything 1468 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,799 Speaker 2: beyond that. But while he was in, it just seemed 1469 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 2: so to reiterate how foolish it was to not just 1470 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 2: pull the plug on the on the coach when you draft. 1471 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, just. 1472 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 2: Go with the new coordinator right away. Caleb Williams could 1473 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 2: have had this start to his career with Ben Johnson 1474 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 2: last year. 1475 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 3: Yep, Like just do it? 1476 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 2: Then? Why wait? They they have so many weapons. I 1477 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 2: mean they have them. It's the most weapons. 1478 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 7: The Bears have ever had over and it's all set 1479 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 7: up by It's all set up by. 1480 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 3: The trade they made with Carolina. Yes, and that's why 1481 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 3: for the Browns. 1482 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,799 Speaker 7: When you go back to it, if you could imagine 1483 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 7: a scenario in which Shoudoor or Dylan Gabriel by the 1484 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 7: end of the season make you feel like we can 1485 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 7: go into next year with one of those guys, you 1486 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 7: could be in a position to make a trade and get. 1487 01:09:54,800 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 3: A big haul. I think he's looking for Coach Bonda. 1488 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 7: There's where you could be in a position to get 1489 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 7: a haul where you turn one pick into three picks 1490 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 7: and you make it all happen. Yeah, is he racking 1491 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 7: an lsu pullo? 1492 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Is that what that was? I have a glare so 1493 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 2: I couldn't see it as well by you Bengals. All right, 1494 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 2: Coach Bond are going to join us in studio coming 1495 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 2: up next. 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Coach b 1502 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,720 Speaker 2: in studio with us in the LSU and you've been 1503 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 2: getting Now let's explain to the folks why this is happening. 1504 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a gorgeous color. 1505 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:12,679 Speaker 16: Yeah, go tigers. 1506 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 9: I've been catching a lot of stuff all day from 1507 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 9: primarily guys from the O but uh Ohio State. But 1508 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,679 Speaker 9: my son's a bull of control linebacker coach out there. 1509 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 9: So just support my son. He's in the thick of 1510 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 9: camp out there, and talk to him the other day 1511 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 9: and don't get to talk to him very much. 1512 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 16: Both of us are pretty busy at this time. 1513 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 2: So family business man. 1514 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 16: That's it goes. We're a football family. 1515 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: You guys. This is two weeks on the road. How 1516 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 2: valuable was that time away? It's challenging for everybody. It's 1517 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 2: challenging for you guys. You're in hotels and all of 1518 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 2: that stuff, but also critical work that gets done what 1519 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 2: were the last couple of weeks, Like, for you guys, 1520 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 2: did you get done what you wanted to? 1521 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 16: We did, and they were really good for us. 1522 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 9: You know, not actually getting away getting away training camp 1523 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 9: deal like we've had at Greenbrier last few years. These 1524 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 9: two weeks really provide us that opportunity to get away 1525 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,640 Speaker 9: from the building, grow as a group, spend time with 1526 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 9: each other, learn about our group, and then also just 1527 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 9: get to practice against a different color, which I thought 1528 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 9: was a great time. 1529 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 2: We needed it. 1530 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 9: We were retired of seeing the same guys and banging 1531 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 9: over and over again. So just to change the scenery, 1532 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,799 Speaker 9: change the color on the other side of the football 1533 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 9: was really good for us. 1534 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 16: And thought we got a ton out of it. 1535 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 7: Especially when you go and get work against the defending 1536 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 7: Super Bowl champions, Like I know that it's you can 1537 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 7: say it's camping. 1538 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't. Maybe A J. 1539 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 7: Brown wasn't out there, but you know, injuries happened through 1540 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 7: regular season, but that's the measuring seck. That was the 1541 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 7: best team in the NFL, and I thought, certainly from 1542 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 7: a defensive side, it was a darn good two days 1543 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 7: of work and you guys really shut them down. 1544 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, ultimately, anytime you can measure yourself against 1545 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 9: the best in the world, you covet those opportunities in 1546 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 9: this in this league and in this game. So for 1547 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,560 Speaker 9: us to go up there and and get the opportunity 1548 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 9: to do that and that and vironment was really good 1549 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 9: for our confidence, for learning about our players, learning about ourselves. 1550 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 9: It was just a great opportunity. I thought we took 1551 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 9: advantage of it. You know, you can go both ways. 1552 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 9: It can be bad for you too, So it was 1553 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 9: just a good opportunity to get into that space and 1554 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,600 Speaker 9: kind of get into that environment with those guys. 1555 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 3: Before you were here. This is our third year of 1556 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 3: joint practices with them. 1557 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 7: I know we did twenty three twenty five, but then 1558 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 7: going back, I think it was twenty two. 1559 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 16: Maybe, I think that's what I heard. 1560 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 7: Yea, yeah, it was here. And that year they went 1561 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl and they lost the Chiefs. After 1562 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 7: those couple of days of joint practice, it was like 1563 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,600 Speaker 7: it would look like, honest the goodness just from a 1564 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 7: physical standpoint from you know, it was almost like JV 1565 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 7: vers ARSA. 1566 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 3: You're like, who are these few there giants? 1567 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, and they just came in here and wrecked us yeah, 1568 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 7: pretty good and it was telling. But I thought what 1569 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 7: was so interesting to me about this one was, and 1570 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 7: I know we've had a more physical camp leading up 1571 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,680 Speaker 7: to it, I thought that we matched their physicality on 1572 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 7: every level. I really thought we sur physicality, and it 1573 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:02,719 Speaker 7: was we were right there. 1574 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 9: And I think that goes back to what Kevin set 1575 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 9: out for this team in terms of being competitively tough, 1576 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 9: like every day competing and being tough. And that was 1577 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 9: a great opportunity again to make the words that are 1578 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 9: on the back of that T shirt reel and I 1579 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 9: thought we did a good job across all, you know, 1580 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 9: in all different phases and every spot and nook and 1581 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 9: cranny of this team. It was a chance to make 1582 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 9: that as tangible as real, and I thought we took 1583 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 9: advantage of it. 1584 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 2: How have you adjusted, How did you adjust how you 1585 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 2: went about your business with that coming from coach that 1586 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 2: we're going to be more physical, we're going to do 1587 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 2: those things. What adjustment was that for you based on 1588 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:37,560 Speaker 2: previous years? 1589 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 9: For me, it's it was like cool, awesome, great, because 1590 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 9: that's exactly what I talk about in the room and 1591 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 9: in general. 1592 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 16: But it's hard to talk about. 1593 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 9: In the room and then not you know, be able 1594 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,560 Speaker 9: to actually go out there and do it consistently or 1595 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 9: a lot. 1596 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:49,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 1597 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,599 Speaker 9: And I thought Kevin's done a great job, but again 1598 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 9: making the messaging real and putting us in those environments, 1599 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,680 Speaker 9: whether it's practice, going live and putting the situations with 1600 01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 9: Carolina and Philly. 1601 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 16: So for me as a coach, I mean we talk 1602 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 16: about that every day. 1603 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 9: Our job is to prove the toughness of that room 1604 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 9: to everyone in this building on a consistent basis. So 1605 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 9: I was excited when I heard all this messaging and 1606 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 9: then seeing it, you know, come to Fruition and the 1607 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 9: environment that Kevin's provided. 1608 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 7: Grant had one where they kind of flared went out 1609 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 7: to as tight end and he was on it smacked 1610 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 7: him right away, and then I was like, I'm sorry. 1611 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 7: It was no freak kiss or anything, but you could 1612 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 7: see it. I like, you know, the Eagles like to 1613 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 7: throw the ball over the top. There was nothing over 1614 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 7: the top. It felt like if our defensive line hadn't 1615 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 7: sacked them, which by the way, makes everybody's job easier, 1616 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 7: and your d line is doing what they've been doing 1617 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 7: basically this entire offseason. It was just nice to see 1618 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 7: him allow us to do it to somebody else. They've 1619 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 7: done it to our own practice far too often. But 1620 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 7: you know, when you look at Grant and Ronnie as 1621 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 7: your top two, and he brought veterans Rashaan Jenkins, I 1622 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,559 Speaker 7: know he has had a nice offseason for you. You've had 1623 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 7: some turnover there. It's gonna be a new starting duo 1624 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 7: for you. But you know, how's it been working with them? 1625 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 7: And how have you seen, you know, two guys that 1626 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 7: you've been with the whole time, in Rocket and in Grant, 1627 01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:58,719 Speaker 7: how they've grown. 1628 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, starting with the two guys that have 1629 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 9: been in the scheme with us the last two years. 1630 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,560 Speaker 9: Just really happy with where they are in terms of 1631 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,760 Speaker 9: the big picture understanding of what we're doing. They have 1632 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 9: control of what we're doing, they know what other people 1633 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 9: are doing. They're able to solve problems and just work 1634 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 9: very very well together. They spend a lot of time 1635 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 9: playing with each other in terms of the game and 1636 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 9: the scheme, done. 1637 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 16: It a lot. 1638 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 9: So really happy with where those two are. And then 1639 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 9: you know, bringing in the new group, because it is. 1640 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:27,559 Speaker 16: A new group. 1641 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 9: I mean, it's what I told the guys in our 1642 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 9: very first safety meeting. 1643 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 16: I put a big question mark up and that's. 1644 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 9: What we were and what we are and what will 1645 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 9: continue to be until we prove otherwise. 1646 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,720 Speaker 16: And I'm excited where the group is. 1647 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 9: I'm very pleased with the vets that we've brought in 1648 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 9: and then buying into what we do and how we 1649 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 9: do it and their roles, but also providing the vet 1650 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 9: leadership and things that they can bring to the room 1651 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 9: to help the room. And they've all stepped up and 1652 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 9: talked and helped the players that have been here, but 1653 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 9: also young players. 1654 01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 16: They've been awesome. 1655 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 9: Excited about the growth of guys like Chris Edmonds, who 1656 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 9: was undrafted free agent, you know, now getting an opportunity 1657 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 9: to really see if he can help this team in 1658 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 9: a bigger role. Donovan McMillan, you know, another undrafted free 1659 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 9: agent that has come in here and really trying to 1660 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 9: prove his toughness and show that he should have been 1661 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 9: a guy like Rocket a year two years ago that. 1662 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,759 Speaker 16: Should have been drafted. 1663 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 9: And so really really excited about it. Even guy like 1664 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 9: Nick Needham, another free agent who's playing nickel quarter safety, 1665 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 9: bopping around for me in b Lynch's room, you know, 1666 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,759 Speaker 9: every other day. So it's been a good, good camp 1667 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 9: in that space, and I'm hoping to see that question 1668 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 9: mark turn into an exclamation mark again in twenty twenty five. 1669 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 2: Chronologically, how do you view this phase of camp? You're 1670 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 2: going into your last preseason game and then it's a 1671 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 2: couple of weeks and then we're playing games that count. 1672 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 2: What is this kind of part of camp like for you? 1673 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:58,959 Speaker 9: For us, it's that run up, It's that runway into 1674 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 9: what a real eason. The week's gonna feel like, uh, 1675 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,720 Speaker 9: in terms of meetings, in terms of game planning, this 1676 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 9: is the week to kind of get you guys in 1677 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 9: our room, which we have a lot used to, how 1678 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,639 Speaker 9: we present things, how we offer information to them about 1679 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 9: the team that we're going to play, how we'll do 1680 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:17,759 Speaker 9: game plan stuff. 1681 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:18,680 Speaker 16: Things will change, So. 1682 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 9: This is that week to kind of get used to that, 1683 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 9: you know deal for primarily than you guys, and even 1684 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,759 Speaker 9: for us as coaches. 1685 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 16: Oh, let's get back into this game plan mode. 1686 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 9: Let's get back into how we break this down and 1687 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 9: what what I got to do on my side to 1688 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 9: help Jim do his job. So it's kind of that 1689 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 9: week for us in terms of, you know, leading into 1690 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,679 Speaker 9: this week and obviously the next two. 1691 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 7: How important is in light of that, for you to 1692 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 7: be like, all right, now, we've been trying things given 1693 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 7: competition to be like Okay, I gotta slot it. 1694 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,760 Speaker 3: And now it's we're getting ready for the Cincinnati Bengals. 1695 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 16: You know, in terms of slotting it, I think. 1696 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 9: There's still a lot to be determined. Determined, Yeah, but. 1697 01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 7: It's an ongoing process. We don't want anybody to rest 1698 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,479 Speaker 7: the world. We understand. 1699 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 16: Well, here's the deal. I'll tell you right now. 1700 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 9: I want to make it tough on everyone in this 1701 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 9: building to slot it. I want to make it. Our 1702 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 9: goal is to make it as hard as we can 1703 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 9: for Andrew Berry and his staff and for Jim and 1704 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 9: for Kevin, because if we do that, then that's a 1705 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 9: good thing for the Cleveland Browns, and that's our goal. 1706 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 9: We want to have as many guys that can help 1707 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 9: this team as possible, not. 1708 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 16: Just on defense, but on special teams. 1709 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 9: So in terms of that, I mean, we want to 1710 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 9: make it tough, and we want a good problem to have. 1711 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 16: That makes sense. 1712 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 3: Everybody talks about takeaways. 1713 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 7: It has been preached, and sometimes it feels like they 1714 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,639 Speaker 7: come in bunches, and then sometimes last year there weren't 1715 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 7: as many takeaways I know you guys have been drilling. 1716 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,600 Speaker 7: I think that one where that they can punch the 1717 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 7: ball out is very cool. It's like in a doughnut 1718 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,439 Speaker 7: and they can dive through it. And I like watching 1719 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 7: that one. But I know that you guys talk about it. 1720 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 7: That wouldn't be anything new to talk about it and 1721 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 7: make it a point of emptsis. But how can you 1722 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 7: take that and actually turn it into taking the football away? 1723 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 7: Because this team, I think you gotta be pot positive 1724 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 7: in the plus minus ratio we're going to be successful. 1725 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:01,559 Speaker 16: I think One. 1726 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,679 Speaker 9: Kevin does a great job explaining that to the guys 1727 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,759 Speaker 9: on a daily basis. 1728 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,839 Speaker 16: Two, as a coach, I'm talking about individually. 1729 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 9: As a coach, you have to hunt and seek the 1730 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 9: body placement and opportunity to slash situations that happen in 1731 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,719 Speaker 9: a game and try to recreate them on the practice 1732 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 9: field as full speed as possible. And that's where we 1733 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,920 Speaker 9: try to come up with these different drills to make 1734 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 9: these situations happen, because that's hard. It's hard to make 1735 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,640 Speaker 9: something full speed that happens in a game come to 1736 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 9: fruition in a practice setting, and that's what we're kind 1737 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 9: of seeking. I think we've done a good job of that, 1738 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 9: finding different ways with the peanut punches, getting the ball, 1739 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 9: tip tip drills, you know, our jug machine. It's just 1740 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 9: been a point of emphasis for us to get even 1741 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 9: more creative as a coach to create those environments so 1742 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 9: the players when that happens, is not the first time 1743 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,799 Speaker 9: they did in practice. 1744 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 7: Well, we saw a tip should we would have liked 1745 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 7: that to stay. But we saw a tip interception last 1746 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,720 Speaker 7: week and Nick got a just a pure interception. 1747 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 3: The week before that. Yeah, I think that's fun. I 1748 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:01,479 Speaker 3: do think it's wild. 1749 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,560 Speaker 7: And I don't know if you watched any of the 1750 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,920 Speaker 7: opposite to our offense their defense film, but Cory and 1751 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 7: Bennett went for a peanut punch and basically punched the 1752 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 7: helmet with his elbow, and that's why I thought. I 1753 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 7: thought he may have broken his arm, Like that's what 1754 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 7: he got on our sideline. He was going but he 1755 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 7: missed and it went full into the helmet. I was like, whoa, 1756 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 7: So that's it's much more fun punching the donut. 1757 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah it is. 1758 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 9: I mean you got to and that's the thing. You 1759 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 9: gotta be smart too, you know, how do you like 1760 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 9: that donut? Shout out to our equipment staff. Like that's 1761 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 9: so cool, velcrow on a ball and inside of our 1762 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,000 Speaker 9: donut and like it sticks so that but it'll still 1763 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,799 Speaker 9: pop out. We found so many different ways to adapt, 1764 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 9: you know, the the tools we use to try to 1765 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,759 Speaker 9: create turnovers. And that is something we gotta continue to emphasize. 1766 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,600 Speaker 2: Always evolving, right, You're always new ways to teach the 1767 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 2: same thing, nude verb. You gotta keep him going now. 1768 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 16: You have to. 1769 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 9: And the players love it. Sure, they love seeing new 1770 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 9: things and new ways to do it. They get bored 1771 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 9: too with the same trip. Yeah, so it's your it's 1772 01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 9: your job as a coach to look at that play 1773 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 9: and say, oh, maybe I can make this happen in 1774 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 9: this way, and they enjoy it because that that's them. 1775 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 9: Them getting takeaways puts money in their pocket too, and 1776 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 9: it helps this team. 1777 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,719 Speaker 2: So what does a safety have to be to play 1778 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 2: for you? Oh? 1779 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 16: Violent, I'll just tell you right now. Violent. 1780 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,599 Speaker 9: They gotta be tough, they gotta be physical, they gotta 1781 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 9: tackle well, and they gotta solve problems. Disposition is an 1782 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 9: ever moving piece. You got to play a third and 1783 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,200 Speaker 9: second level and the first level. So your violence, your toughness, 1784 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 9: the edge you play with your tackling will always be 1785 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 9: the things for me that I set forth first, and 1786 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,560 Speaker 9: then you got to be a smart, intelligent player that 1787 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 9: can solve problems and stay ahead. It's a it's it's 1788 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 9: just it's a great dance between all different things. Playing 1789 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 9: man and having finesse and then being violent and fitting 1790 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,360 Speaker 9: a power run scheme and then getting the ball down 1791 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 9: like Don had to do in the middle of the 1792 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,800 Speaker 9: field and stick your face, you know, into the fan 1793 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 9: and violently wrap a leg of running back running full 1794 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 9: speed at you. So it's this true dance of you know, 1795 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 9: true technique, finesse and violence with the ability to Okay, 1796 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 9: I got a problem right now, they just motion, they 1797 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 9: did all this and I got to solve it like that. 1798 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 16: So those are the things that are big for me. 1799 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 7: Love I do too, and that I feel that, and 1800 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 7: I think that is so important. When we also play 1801 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,040 Speaker 7: as much single high as we do, what does that 1802 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 7: guy have to do because he's not always he's last 1803 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,080 Speaker 7: line of defense in every respect. Obviously, if Grant's down 1804 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 7: the box or whatever, he's got to be there. But 1805 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 7: when you're that last, when you are that dot, when 1806 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,639 Speaker 7: we're single high as much as we are we're single 1807 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 7: high as much as anybody in the National Football League. 1808 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 7: And for a guy like Rocket that's gonna he's taking 1809 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 7: that over this year, what is that job? What does 1810 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 7: that guy have to have it? 1811 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 9: It's great question, okay, because in this scheme, again for 1812 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 9: the years that I've been involved in at thirteen, now 1813 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 9: that happens more to a safety in this scheme than 1814 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 9: anywhere else. Not quarters, you're not vice, and it's one 1815 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 9: on one Rocket whoever else in the middle of the field, 1816 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 9: when the ball's in space, it's about and you see 1817 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 9: us wrap this all the time, G, I, O T. G. 1818 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,720 Speaker 9: Get it on the ground like that's the key in 1819 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,479 Speaker 9: that environment. It may not be a kill shot, but 1820 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 9: your job is to take the air out of it 1821 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,760 Speaker 9: to to know that you've trained in that environment, which 1822 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,439 Speaker 9: we REPUTI. That's when you see me work in the 1823 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 9: donut drills and having them chase, you know, downhill and 1824 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,880 Speaker 9: getting that ball down to give our defense another opportunity 1825 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 9: to get back to what we do. Tack of the 1826 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,960 Speaker 9: loss is sacks, takeaways, negative plays and attack defense is 1827 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,599 Speaker 9: key and sometimes it's going to get past that. That 1828 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 9: that's it, that first or second level we have to 1829 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 9: get the ball on the ground in space. It may 1830 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,600 Speaker 9: not be perfect, it may not be pretty, but so 1831 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 9: long as we do, we get another chance to attack again. 1832 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,200 Speaker 2: I love it. That's fantastic, coach. 1833 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,800 Speaker 16: It's so good seeing you man right, seeing you guys. 1834 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 7: The fresh helmet that he's got his products. 1835 01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 16: He's ready to wife wanted me to grow the hair out. 1836 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1837 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,560 Speaker 16: Shout outs to my lovely beautiful. 1838 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 2: It's nice to meet her again. Right, all right, you 1839 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,040 Speaker 2: guys got back to there. 1840 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 3: You go, smart smart, shout out on the interview. 1841 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,719 Speaker 2: Very very smart, very smart coach, can guys, as always, 1842 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 2: so much more to come. 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We had Joe Flacco 1860 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 2: being a. 1861 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,479 Speaker 7: Big day named You're at one o'clock right at the bat, baby, 1862 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 7: Joe Flacco, You're starting quarterback your Cleveland Browns. It was 1863 01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 7: becoming quite obvious, is this is where it was heading 1864 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 7: last week? 1865 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,639 Speaker 2: And now you get it. And I think, honestly, it's 1866 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,880 Speaker 2: kind of the perfect way to start this season with 1867 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,519 Speaker 2: Joe leading the way it is. 1868 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 7: And it goes back to now, this is the perfect 1869 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 7: way to start the season. 1870 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 3: You've got Joe Flacco for this year. 1871 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 7: But again, this is in no way, shape or form 1872 01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 7: addresses what is the biggest issue, and that is finding 1873 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,599 Speaker 7: a long term solution at that position. And so you've 1874 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,760 Speaker 7: got two young guys here three if you count Canny 1875 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,720 Speaker 7: Pickett as well, that are are in that mix. And 1876 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 7: so I think it's gonna be very fascinating to see 1877 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 7: how this plays out. And you know, if you're Joe Flacco, right, 1878 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 7: your job is to not let anybody else get it 1879 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,559 Speaker 7: at bat yep, and you know how you do that win. 1880 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,680 Speaker 7: We come out of here through six games and we're 1881 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 7: three and three or four and two. My goodness, gracious, 1882 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 7: that is a we will. I don't think this is great. 1883 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 7: I think we will be underdogs in all six of 1884 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 7: our first six games. Yeah, you know, so this is 1885 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,439 Speaker 7: his chance. He wanted another shot, like to be day 1886 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 7: one starter. It worked out this way for a variety 1887 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 7: of reasons, and he took advantage of the opportunities that 1888 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 7: were made available to him. And now this is his 1889 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,080 Speaker 7: time and he he's such a great guy. You want 1890 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,600 Speaker 7: him to be successful, You want him, you want it 1891 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 7: all for Joe Flacco does that everything the right way. 1892 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 7: I saw a clip of him where he had to 1893 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,880 Speaker 7: name the quarterbacks he's beaten in the playoffs, and it's 1894 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 7: like Brady Twice, Peyton Man, Roethlisberger, like he's beaten all 1895 01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 7: of them. He couldn't remember the last one, and I 1896 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 7: was sitting there screaming at my phone. 1897 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,040 Speaker 3: I knew it. 1898 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,680 Speaker 7: It was Houston and we said the year. It was 1899 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,920 Speaker 7: so funny. When I was a kid, I was watching 1900 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:08,920 Speaker 7: I remember being checking the fantasy stats. 1901 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,439 Speaker 3: It was the playoffs. I was must have been like 1902 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:11,920 Speaker 3: a playoff Fantasy league at the time. I think it 1903 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:12,839 Speaker 3: was twenty eleven. 1904 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,519 Speaker 7: And I remember being home in California and I was 1905 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 7: at Bidwell Park, which was the park near my house 1906 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:18,760 Speaker 7: where i'd go, and I. 1907 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 3: Was playing pick up basketball. But I remember and I 1908 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 3: was sitting there screaming. 1909 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 16: I'm like, it's TJ. 1910 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:23,879 Speaker 3: Yates. 1911 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:25,439 Speaker 2: That was it. 1912 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 3: It was TJ. 1913 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 16: Yates. 1914 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 3: That was when he had to call his dad. 1915 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,559 Speaker 7: He called you did a phone a friend and called 1916 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,160 Speaker 7: his dad and he got TJS And I was like, 1917 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 7: could just called me brother? 1918 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 3: I had the TJ. Yates at the ready. 1919 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 7: You you kind of outlined this a couple of weeks 1920 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,559 Speaker 7: ago when we were in camp, you know, because you 1921 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,439 Speaker 7: know Jimmy has some ownership here, said, look, we like 1922 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,240 Speaker 7: to see these guys play, the young guys play, and 1923 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 7: we want to see them play too. And I thought, 1924 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 7: what you said a couple of weeks ago is kind 1925 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,559 Speaker 7: of a good gauge for our fans to kind of 1926 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 7: look through these things through prism, to look through be 1927 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 7: the starter for as long as you can be the starter, 1928 01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,919 Speaker 7: and as long as you win, keep starting. 1929 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Like Joe goes four and two in the first six. 1930 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,800 Speaker 2: He even keeps starting if if you go to a 1931 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 2: rookie at some point Shador or Dylan and and they win, 1932 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 2: keep starting. It's your job until it's not. 1933 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,720 Speaker 7: Whoever right, whoever is the starter at the time. Your 1934 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 7: job is to make sure that nobody else gets a trench. 1935 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. And the way you do that is 1936 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 3: by winning. That's that's it. That is the way that 1937 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 3: you do it. 1938 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 2: The other thing we had official today was Isaiah Bond 1939 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:27,599 Speaker 2: yep in the. 1940 01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,599 Speaker 7: Mix, and that's like getting a uh, this is unprit 1941 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 7: It is somewhat unprecedented. It is the first fully guaranteed contract, 1942 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 7: at least according to his agent of this time for 1943 01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 7: an undrafted free agent. 1944 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:43,639 Speaker 3: He's being paid. 1945 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,679 Speaker 7: The Zoe was kind of a late second early third 1946 01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:51,000 Speaker 7: round pick, and Isaiah Bond has been compared to. 1947 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 3: Very good receivers. We mentioned Jaylen Wada. 1948 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 7: It's lanceser Line from NFL dot Com that was his 1949 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,600 Speaker 7: comp for him. He is the guy that has a 1950 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,680 Speaker 7: chance some real juice and be a significant part of 1951 01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,400 Speaker 7: what we do. Now he's got to get up to speed. 1952 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 7: It's been pretty clear from the statement earlier day that 1953 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,720 Speaker 7: the Browns were very thorough in their due diligence on him, 1954 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,000 Speaker 7: of the player, and then of course with everything they 1955 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:17,439 Speaker 7: had to get into with the allegations against him that 1956 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 7: he has been cleared of. They've done their homework on them. 1957 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,920 Speaker 7: They're excited about getting him in here and we'll see him. 1958 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:25,719 Speaker 7: He'll be out of practice tomorrow. 1959 01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,439 Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, still in a little bit. The 1960 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,160 Speaker 2: last big news of the day was looks like a 1961 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,040 Speaker 2: little bit of a hang up with quin Shawn Judkins 1962 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,960 Speaker 2: and so still some work to be done on that contract. 1963 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 2: So man, big big Monday here in Borea. The next 1964 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,960 Speaker 2: level is coming up next, folks. We're getting closer now. 1965 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening body Cleveland Browns Daily. 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