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Speaker 1: down time. Let me officially proclaim the summer is over.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, look at that. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen that yet. Welcome to the show. It is One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. I'm John Murphy, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker alongside. I am back, Steve is back. We are

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Speaker 1: here and yeah, summer feels over today. Not for you

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Speaker 1: That's first time I've seen it. Was in all last week.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching Joe's Dynamite. I listened to some shows,

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Speaker 1: did not watch any shows. We had the big discussion

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Speaker 1: to the fans, are like wondering where we lay. Like

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Speaker 1: the Red, Jerky Red and Jones Blood. I like the Blue,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say to kind of I like it. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. I'm John Murphy and case you forgot,

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Speaker 1: this is Steve Tasker. We're hearing from now until three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Happy to be back. See. I have to tell you,

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Speaker 1: after a couple of weeks off, we had the one

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Speaker 1: around that, so it's not about three and a half weeks.

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Speaker 1: I feel fully refreshed. You're on the Craig Revet summer plan.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that getting together with the Ribs

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Speaker 1: up in Canada. I was in Canada, but fully refreshed,

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Speaker 1: fully rejuvenated, ready to go and ready for the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen season. I feel good. Yeah, And the training camps

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Speaker 1: a couple of less than a couple of weeks away,

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Speaker 1: ten days away, and it's gonna crank up. We'll be

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Speaker 1: we'll be traveling around doing games before you know it.

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Speaker 1: That's right, it's coming and it's great to be back.

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Speaker 1: And thank you for everybody who filled in. Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a roller coaster, Like

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Speaker 1: gonna admit, how did you like sitting over here? You

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Speaker 1: know if I liked the big boy chair. Why when

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Speaker 1: what I heard you sounded great, it's a little exhausting.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, yeah, because you actually we have to

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I had a great couple of

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Speaker 1: tremendous week. You ever been up that way? Not even

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Speaker 1: great people, great weather. We caught some really good weather

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Speaker 1: It's simple, slow paced. The biggest city is Charlottetown, Prince

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Speaker 1: Read a lot about the Jets? Who you know? We

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Speaker 1: how did this get by me? That Socie's kind of

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Speaker 1: spent kind of reflecting on the offseason the Bills have

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Speaker 1: how it plays out, right. I Mean, you look at

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna all come down that one game, no

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Speaker 1: on the final week of the season. Two, right, they

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Speaker 1: what you remember? It makes me think remember that year

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Speaker 1: it's a lot to ask for anybody, including the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to ask them to go six and own

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Speaker 1: done a lot of it. Yeah, so we're back. I'm

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Speaker 1: back with Steve. Steve has been here a while, and

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Speaker 1: we're here for this week and we're just a week

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Speaker 1: and a half away from training camp. And Steve mentioned

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Speaker 1: it broke. It's basically the Steve Tasker plan is now

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Speaker 1: in play. This is a plan that Steve has proposed

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Speaker 1: over the last several months, and we get into heated

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Speaker 1: arguments about it. I am reluctant to talk about it

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Speaker 1: today because I'm feeling good right back from vacation and

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like having a big argument but we

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Speaker 1: have to talk. I really don't. I know you'll get

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Speaker 1: it out of mean, we have to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: The owners in their CBA negotiations, Roger Goodell admitted over

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Speaker 1: the weekend two things. One, he said, we're trying to

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Speaker 1: get a contract done before this season begins. That's huge.

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Speaker 1: That's big. It's big. Two, the concept of an eighteen

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Speaker 1: game regular season schedule is in play, with players only

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Speaker 1: playing sixteen of those eighteen games. The Tasker plan. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: who proposed it to the owners? Listen? You know me,

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Speaker 1: I've been selling everybody with who had two ears? I

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Speaker 1: would that I wanted that. This is my plan. With

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Speaker 1: Pete prisco On he started spouting off, that's my plan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Tasker Plan. So now I know it's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen, right because for whatever reason that but it

447
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Speaker 1: is something I think we've we've talked about this at length.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. There's this big appetite out there.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty like last season, there's a big appetite. Even

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Speaker 1: here in Western New York we had a six and

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Speaker 1: ten football team. People wanted to see our team. The

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Speaker 1: fans wanted to see our team keep playing. They want

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Speaker 1: to see Josh Allen keep playing. He was a compelling

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Speaker 1: figure to watch. It was a fun team to watch.

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Speaker 1: That a good defense, and we want to see if

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Speaker 1: this quarterback could make enough plays to win a game.

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Speaker 1: Other fans like that feel the same way around the country.

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Speaker 1: So you always get to the end of the season thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: I wish our team was still playing. So that's why

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Speaker 1: the AAF comes out, That's why the XFL is kind

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Speaker 1: of come. There's this appetite around for more football, and

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Speaker 1: I think this is the NFL's chance to, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: grab some of it. And you're there's no doubt, you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's a money grab. Well, yeah, when you say let's

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Speaker 1: grab some of it, they're saying, let's grab some of

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Speaker 1: the money. It's a money grab there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I even agree with you. See, there are plenty

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Speaker 1: of seasons that have ended here in Buffalo unfortunately, where

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Speaker 1: people are like, phew, I'm glad that's over, and that's

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Speaker 1: not just a Buffalo thing that goes on all over

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Speaker 1: the place. I think there's a certain integrity to a

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Speaker 1: sixteen game regular Season's who's who wants seeing Let's just

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Speaker 1: start with this before we get to the sixteen game

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Speaker 1: playing schedule. Who's begging for an eighteen game regular season? Nobody?

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Speaker 1: Is there a problem with preseason? Absolutely, and the commissioner

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Speaker 1: has admitted the preseason game does not measure up to

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Speaker 1: the quality of product that they have put out there.

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Speaker 1: But is anybody who's looking for eighteen games? You know

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Speaker 1: who is the owners? Owners? That's all. It's a cash crap.

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Speaker 1: If you heard in the news, the NFL just dispersed

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Speaker 1: over eight billion dollars to all the NFL owners. Every

482
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Speaker 1: team got two hundred and seventy four plus million dollars,

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Speaker 1: just got like it just showed up in their bank

484
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Speaker 1: account at just just end. The cap is a buck

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Speaker 1: eighty is one hundred and eighty million, So they got

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Speaker 1: like ninety six million bucks above what they got to

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Speaker 1: pay the players, not including what they don't spend. What

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Speaker 1: the thirty million that we're like the Bills are short

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Speaker 1: of the cap or whatever. They are short of the

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Speaker 1: cap with their top fifty six players. They're you know,

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Speaker 1: so they you know, they're it's cash cow. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so I get it. I mean, there's the league has

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Speaker 1: gotten to this point. They've they have done everything they

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Speaker 1: could to grow the league in every conceivable way, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean they expanded to thirty two teams all the

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Speaker 1: way down from when I played, and when I began

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Speaker 1: it was twenty eight, right, so it's twenty eight team now,

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Speaker 1: they're at thirty two teams. Now, they've got sixteen game schedule.

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Speaker 1: Decades ago it was fourteen game schedule. They've gotten into

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Speaker 1: international games. London hosts five games this year, five game

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Speaker 1: international games. They're taking a game to Mexico City this year.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, probably looks for the last time though. They're

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Speaker 1: looking to expand internationally. They have done everything they can

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Speaker 1: to make it more interesting for fans. They've they've brought

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Speaker 1: an instant replay because fans were outraged over a bad

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Speaker 1: call against their team that couldn't be fixed. They've done

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Speaker 1: everything they can, better camera angles, pylon cameras, better coverage,

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Speaker 1: more access to players in the offseason. The league has

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Speaker 1: really done everything it could to spur fan interest decade

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Speaker 1: after decade after decade, and as a result, they've got

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Speaker 1: they've got this eight hundred pound gorilla in the sports

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Speaker 1: landscape of American sports. Right, So, now what do they do?

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Speaker 1: That's the big question. How about they sit back and

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Speaker 1: take their money and say we got a good thing

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Speaker 1: going on, let's not make it worse. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's in their DNA. I don't think it is.

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Speaker 1: Here's our Twitter pool today, and we want to get

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Speaker 1: discussion going on this on one Bill's Live on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Lots of talk lately about a possible eighteen game regular season,

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Speaker 1: right we can. And look, I'm not opposed to discussing this,

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Speaker 1: even though for months now I've been shooting down Steve's

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Speaker 1: the Tasker Plan. But our question is what should an

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Speaker 1: NFL regular season look like? What's your ideal NFL regular season?

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Speaker 1: Is it a sixteen games? Leave it as is? Is

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Speaker 1: it b eighteen games and the players play in all eighteen?

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Speaker 1: Is it see the Tasker plan? Eighteen game season players

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Speaker 1: only play sixteen of those eighteen? Already got something else

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Speaker 1: in mine? Right now? On Twitter, the early results with

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Speaker 1: more than seven hundred fifty votes in more than half

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Speaker 1: of you say leave it as it is, sixteen games.

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Speaker 1: Keep going with that. Fifty two percent say that, thirty

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Speaker 1: percent say, play eighteen games in your regular season and

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Speaker 1: the players have to play in all of them. Thirteen

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Speaker 1: percent of you say the Tasker Plan eighteen games players

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Speaker 1: only play sixteen five percent have something else in mind.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call. Let's discuss phone nines open eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Send it a tweet. We

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Speaker 1: might read it on the tweets. She'd send it into

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. What should an NFL regular season schedule

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Speaker 1: look like? Are you okay if we call it the

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Speaker 1: Tasker plan? I think you'd be happy about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're playing. Yeah, I like that more than the whole

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Speaker 1: of fame counter to disappear mercifully. So anyway, here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: and I get it too, because you don't want to

546
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Speaker 1: see your team. You don't want to see that. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see the Bills play without Josh All

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Speaker 1: in the lineup. I really don't know. Here's the thing, though,

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Speaker 1: when you get to those games where you're starting quarterback

550
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Speaker 1: or Lashawn McCoy or whatever player you want to pick

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Speaker 1: that you want to see. If you're the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 1: it's Matt Ryan or Julio Jones or whatever. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to see your team play without its big guns,

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Speaker 1: unless you're the thirty one other teams, and then that

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Speaker 1: team becomes pretty interesting. And I think that's pretty compelling

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Speaker 1: argument that the argument is is true. There's you can't

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Speaker 1: deny that A it's a money grab and B that

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Speaker 1: it does dilute the product. Right. It does throw a

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Speaker 1: big wet blanket over a star driven league, and I

560
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Speaker 1: think you have to weigh that against one. The team

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Speaker 1: becomes more like the Patriots are going to be really

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch if Tom's not playing, and if Edelman's

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Speaker 1: out of the line up, I think I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people would love to see him play and

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Speaker 1: then see now we're going to see how you can

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Speaker 1: do and see him get their heads caved in. Um,

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Speaker 1: obviously fantasy football would explode over. They think it'd be

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Speaker 1: great because it give them a chance to gain on

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Speaker 1: whatever all that stuff. Also, I think another positive would

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Speaker 1: be that and I lost my train of thought. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna I had one more point about and I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't keep them straight because there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of positive The negatives are it is it dilutes the product.

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Speaker 1: It extends the season for the players, but not the workload.

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Speaker 1: And you have a lot of logistics where we were

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Speaker 1: just talking in the control room. When do you find

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Speaker 1: out that your starting quarterback is not going to play

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Speaker 1: this week? What day of the week. That's a big question.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of logistical questions, and look, they can

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Speaker 1: take care of themselves, but what is it due to

581
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Speaker 1: people that like to wage your money on games? And

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Speaker 1: when do I find out? Do I find out Sunday

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Speaker 1: morning at eleven thirty about the one o'clock kickoff on

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Speaker 1: who's going to play quarterback? That doesn't seem like that

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Speaker 1: would be to anyone's benefit. Do I find out? What

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Speaker 1: if the teams are forced to make a decision Monday

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Speaker 1: or Tuesday and then the quarterback or receiver or running

588
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Speaker 1: back the teams are planning on gets hurt in practice?

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00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Now what do you do? Now? Yeah, that's totally up

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Speaker 1: against it. Look, there's so many logistical issues and beyond

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Speaker 1: that steam from my mind, and we've talked about this

592
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Speaker 1: and much more heated comments that we've had over the months,

593
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Speaker 1: it's just not right to charge your regular season prices

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Speaker 1: to fans, your fans, or any NFL fans and not

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Speaker 1: put the best possible healthy product you can on the field.

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Speaker 1: It's just not right. It's not fair to fans. The

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Speaker 1: only people that benefit from this Tasker plan eighteen games schedule,

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Speaker 1: sixteen games for players. The only people that benefit are

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Speaker 1: the owners who get two more games to sell on TV,

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Speaker 1: and they dilute their own product. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: the league can go down that path to start to

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Speaker 1: water down the product. And I get it. Preseason is

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Speaker 1: a problem, um, And I've come up, We've talked about

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Speaker 1: some of my preseason plans. You know, I have a

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Speaker 1: low cost not necessarily televised a rookie game, rookie and

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Speaker 1: you know, young player game. Um, there's a million ways

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Speaker 1: to do preseason. But I'd like to hear that this

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Speaker 1: would this would do away with two of those preseason games,

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Speaker 1: no question, but but at you know what Costum, My

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Speaker 1: thoughts were, you start the season, and this is this

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Speaker 1: is an extra part of the Tasker plan. If we're

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Speaker 1: calling that you start, that you play those two last

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Speaker 1: two preseason games would become regular season games. Right and

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Speaker 1: then if none of us remember nobody plays games over

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Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend, right with this year's September second, and

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Speaker 1: the opening game opening weekend of the season is September ninth.

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Speaker 1: In my mind and under the Steve Tasker plan September

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Speaker 1: two still remains a bye week for the entire league.

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Speaker 1: You play those two first, the first couple of games

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Speaker 1: of the regular season, and then the whole week league

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Speaker 1: is off for Labor Day weekend. You can go out

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Speaker 1: and you can go fishing, you can go do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want, and you can kind of play those two

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Speaker 1: preseason games two regular season games. Then you take that break.

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Speaker 1: You get a breather right there at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the season. So teams could gather themselves up, say here's

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Speaker 1: what we think we are after these first two games.

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Speaker 1: Now let's go and it would be a you know,

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Speaker 1: an acknowledgement of a national holiday where there's not NFL

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Speaker 1: football on. And then that's also an extra week off

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Speaker 1: for the players, a chance to get healthy after training

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Speaker 1: camp or after the first couple of preseason games. That

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Speaker 1: week off is gold at any time you can put it.

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Speaker 1: And then every team would have the regular buy week

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Speaker 1: after that. So I and you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: and I can't believe this either. During the negotiations the

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Speaker 1: run up the reported conversations the league and the CBA

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Speaker 1: have had over this whole scheduling proposal has been the

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Speaker 1: d Maury Smith, the spokesperson the president of the players Association,

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Speaker 1: the guy who's running the negotiations on the side of

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Speaker 1: the players, has said he doesn't think the eighteen game schedule,

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Speaker 1: even with the sixteen game limit for players, is in

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Speaker 1: the players' best interest. I think it's the opposite of that.

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Speaker 1: With particularly the way I'm he gives him way more

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Speaker 1: time off during the seat regular season. They get an

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Speaker 1: extra two game two weeks, and so if a guy

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Speaker 1: tweaks his ankle, he's automatically he can take the next

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Speaker 1: two games off. He didn't have to fight back on

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Speaker 1: to the field, He didn't have to take a needle

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Speaker 1: to get back on the field to play in a

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Speaker 1: division game or whatever. He can take those two weeks

652
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Speaker 1: off because he's got him coming anyway, and he won't

653
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Speaker 1: lose any games or the sixteen that he's had. You'll

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Speaker 1: find players staying healthier in the games that they can

655
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Speaker 1: play because they've had a chance not to have to.

656
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Speaker 1: Like tarn Johnson doesn't have to fight through his shoulder

657
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Speaker 1: for fifteen weeks. He could have taken two weeks off

658
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Speaker 1: early in the season, maybe gotten to a point where

659
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Speaker 1: he could have gotten well enough to play. You can

660
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Speaker 1: even get in this day and age, you can get

661
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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman who's gonna struggle to get through his

662
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Speaker 1: sixteen games. He can get a dusting and cleaning of

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Speaker 1: his knee in week four, take those next two weeks off,

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Speaker 1: and he can come back and maybe even be a reserve,

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Speaker 1: or maybe even be on the field for a game,

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Speaker 1: because you got guys doing that now all the time.

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Speaker 1: You never stay healthy during the season, And with two

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Speaker 1: games built in plus a bye week, I could get

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Speaker 1: a month off and come back and play sixteen games

670
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Speaker 1: healthy and not have to get surgery in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: We got to get to a break here. But I

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Speaker 1: do want to say part of the appeal to me

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Speaker 1: the NFL is the urgency of each week. The fact

674
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Speaker 1: that we need you this week. You might have to

675
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: take a shot, you might have to play her seriously, urgent, serious,

676
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: The importance of each game, I think is part of

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Speaker 1: the appeal. Every game matters. This is not an eighty

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Speaker 1: two game hockey schedule or eighty two game NBA schedule.

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Speaker 1: You got sixteen games. They all matter. We need them all.

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Speaker 1: We need you. If you're healthy and available to play,

681
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Speaker 1: we need you that day. I think that's an appeal

682
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Speaker 1: to the fans that these games matter. You want to

683
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Speaker 1: make these games less meaningful, I think you run the

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Speaker 1: risk of, you know, killing the goose that laid the

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Speaker 1: golden egg. Right, Well, these games aren't meaningful, I make

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Speaker 1: them less meaningful. There's two sides of that coin. The

687
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: games aren't meaningful. In fact, they've become so meaningful that

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Speaker 1: you're willing to sacrifice a guy's future health in order

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Speaker 1: to play one week in a night in a game

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Speaker 1: this season. And it's not a motivation for the owners.

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Speaker 1: Come on, do you think I'm talking about the players Association?

692
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Speaker 1: I think it's better for the players. That's why I

693
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Speaker 1: think this is a huge win for the players. I

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Speaker 1: don't I can't believe they're not. They didn't jump at

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Speaker 1: this because it gives your players a chance to take

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Speaker 1: a breath during the season and not take a needle

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Speaker 1: five weeks in a row trying to get on top

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Speaker 1: of an ankle or a shoulder, an elbow, and it

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Speaker 1: just gives them a chance not to be under that

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Speaker 1: kind of physical pressure where they're for sure gonna have

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Speaker 1: to get their shoulder worked on in February because they

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Speaker 1: couldn't take three weeks off during a REGULARNCY is important.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more about this. We're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: from Mark Murphy, president of the Packers, Clarence, New York Natives,

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Speaker 1: gonna kind of a response to this, a plan of

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Speaker 1: his own. We'll call that the Mark Murphy plan, not

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Speaker 1: the John Murphy plan. You know what the Tasker plan is.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that when we return. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call lines open the eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Send us a tweet. We're gonna read some

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Speaker 1: of them off the tweet sheet when we return. Come

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Speaker 1: on back, just getting rolling here, One Bill's Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Well, we know

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Speaker 1: it's a good discussion when it goes on during the

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Speaker 1: commercial break, right, and then went on. We're talking to

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Speaker 1: our crew in the other room, our great off air crew,

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Speaker 1: about this topic. NFL regular season. The Tasker plan is

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Speaker 1: in play now, eighteen game regular season with players limited

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Speaker 1: to sixteen games. I don't know about that. And so

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Speaker 1: what should the NFL regular season look like? That's our

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Speaker 1: question today. Should it be the same as it is

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Speaker 1: right now. Sixteen games? Should it be eighteen games? Players?

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Speaker 1: Ali's rule to play all eighteen? Should it be eighteen games?

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Speaker 1: Players can only play in sixteen? You got another plan,

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Speaker 1: give us a call. We'll discuss eighth three fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get to the tweet sheet in a moment, but

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Speaker 1: let's start with a call Steve on the line from Ohio. Hello, Steve, welcome,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hey, good to see

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Speaker 1: you guys back in the fold. Thank you, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I think Steve, over the weekend, Steve, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you were ill. I think you were

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Speaker 1: refining the task or planned down a right, just like

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Speaker 1: special teams last year they called in Steve to outline

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Speaker 1: the tasker plan. Last year you're straining him out on kickoffs,

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Speaker 1: and now you've done the schedule right. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: on special teams. I can't argue with it if they

739
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: did that for you, but because you were the best.

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Speaker 1: But here is um here's you know, Murph, this fortnighte age.

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Speaker 1: You know, I got kids that are playing this fortnight

742
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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I think the surist it's

743
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna watch the sixteen game league. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to be said for an eighteen game. I'm a

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Speaker 1: purist myself, but I think if they did an eighteen game, Steve,

746
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Speaker 1: and I'm just going to try to refine your plan, Steve,

747
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: you'd have to identify ahead of time. Vecas will go nuts.

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00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: I mean the house wins, but in fantasy will nuts.

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Speaker 1: But my point would be identify. So let's say the

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Speaker 1: builds by weeks week six, you identify the Allen list week,

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Speaker 1: if you will, is week eight, and the further that

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00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: should be in your own division. Your team's got to

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Speaker 1: play your best players. So if we're going out to

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Speaker 1: San Diego or something and Allen's not playing week nine,

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Speaker 1: at least we get a hold of it. My second

756
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Speaker 1: point is, for the purest of which I am, whatever

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Speaker 1: happened to adding a couple of players, I know it

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Speaker 1: eludes a bit. I mean a couple of playoff games

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00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: playoff teams. Well, I think that diludes it even more.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm less a fan of having more playoff

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Speaker 1: teams that I am a playing eighteen game schedule, not

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Speaker 1: just because I think in eighteen, like I came up

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Speaker 1: with some eighteen game schedule idea. I think I don't

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Speaker 1: like leagues where you play yourself out of the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and not into the playoffs. I think thirty two teams

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Speaker 1: the top third is the team or the teams are

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Speaker 1: top third plus are the ones who get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't like. I wouldn't like it if sixteen teams

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Speaker 1: were in the playoffs, I wouldn't. I think that's way

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Speaker 1: too many, and I think that's I think it would.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the would delude the regular season immensely.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a Steve, why do we got

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Speaker 1: to change anything? Things are going pretty well and making

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Speaker 1: a ton of money. That's the same thing have to change?

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Speaker 1: And I got to admit that's a legitimate question. What's

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Speaker 1: your what are you? What are we trying to fix? Here?

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Speaker 1: My straight opinion where it's a cash grab Like you said,

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Speaker 1: I've got my tickets. You guys know I call a lot.

779
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm a season ticket holder. Idris five hours from Columbus.

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00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see you guys, and I'm chopping

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00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: it's a bit. I don't think anything has to be fixed.

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Speaker 1: I got a question though, for you, would you rather

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Speaker 1: pay full price for two preseason tickets or two regular

784
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Speaker 1: season games that are watered down like maybe the Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen or Lashawn McCoy isn't playing in that actually meaning

786
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Speaker 1: something in the standings? Which would you rather play full

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Speaker 1: it's for a bad choice, it is. It does seem

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Speaker 1: to be a pad choice. What do you think, Steve?

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't like playing full price

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Speaker 1: for the preseason, but I get it. It's something that

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00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: history is. It's a money team a game, but you

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00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: are watering it down. I mean to look at the

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Speaker 1: Bills without Josh Allen right now, or or say Tank

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Speaker 1: god Shady or or you know, Trey, it's not quite

795
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: the same thing. I think. I think you're right, and

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00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right on that. I don't like it either way.

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00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I think I should remain the same. But you'd rather

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Speaker 1: you'd rather pay full price for the two preseason tickets

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Speaker 1: and then just watch sixteen regular season games where you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna get your best players no matter what.

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Speaker 1: My final answer fifteen games player best made the best team,

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Speaker 1: win less rock bill? What if? What if? Right? It's

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Speaker 1: final answer? Yeah, and that I think so too. And

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Speaker 1: one thing that's getting lost is we haven't really talked

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Speaker 1: about it in this whole eighteen game. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: all convoluted now. Even it's it's as kind of watered

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Speaker 1: down as the league. We may look if it's a

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Speaker 1: team games. But the give back by the owners to

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Speaker 1: the players for doing this, and I don't because there's

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Speaker 1: nothing there except this. The giveback would be that they

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Speaker 1: would expand the rosters, say from fifty three guys to

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Speaker 1: like fifty eight guys to make sure you had a

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Speaker 1: full compliment of guys every week. So if you did

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Speaker 1: have to I think the math is sixteen game schedule

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Speaker 1: or eighteen game schedule, you'd have to sit down, you

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Speaker 1: know what, three guys a week to make it possible

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Speaker 1: to have you know, all your guys ready to play.

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Speaker 1: So given with injuries and all of that stuff, you're

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Speaker 1: you're thinking about sitting down going from fifty eight guys

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Speaker 1: on the roster and forty five on game day, you

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Speaker 1: might expand that to like forty eight on game day

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Speaker 1: and go to fifty eight man on the rest on

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Speaker 1: the regular season roster rather than fifty three on the

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Speaker 1: regular season roster. You know what, I'm saying yep, because

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Speaker 1: there's a math problem there to be worked out. With

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Speaker 1: eighteen games and you've got fifty three guys on the

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Speaker 1: roster and onlybody can only play sixteen into those games,

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Speaker 1: Well then you got games where we got twenty five guys,

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Speaker 1: we got to sit down in the last month of

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Speaker 1: the season. Well, you know, it's too many to do that,

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00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: so you can't get You'd have to work out the math,

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Speaker 1: and it would be it would be simple math, which

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do in public because I'd screw

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Speaker 1: it up, but right you'd have to. You'd have to

835
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Speaker 1: make sure the rosters were big enough to allow you

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Speaker 1: with injuries and just you know, guys just having to

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Speaker 1: sit down. You'd have enough guys to feel a team

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Speaker 1: every week, so there's that to be done as well,

839
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: and that would be the giveback. So there'd be more

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Speaker 1: guys on the roster, which means you'd have teams like

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Speaker 1: like Baltimore, like like the Patriots, like whoever. They'd go

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Speaker 1: into a game and then maybe one of those weeks

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Speaker 1: where they'd do some and this would really this would

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00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: really burn you up, Murph, think about it. They come

845
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Speaker 1: out running the wishbone, you know, because they don't have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, right, because all of a sudden, they got

847
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Speaker 1: three guys to say, we're gonna run three different guys,

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00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: will have interchangeable quarterbacks, We're gonna do some tricky, weird

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Speaker 1: wing tea. You're gonna see that, right, And so you

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Speaker 1: kind of run the risk of somebody doing something screwy

851
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: like that. And it's like, then it becomes kind of

852
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: a joke, right, Yeah, it does. And I don't know

853
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: why you would want to fool with the integrity of

854
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: the game. And as I said before, the urgency of

855
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: each game, the fact that there's only sixteen of them

856
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: and each one of them counts. Let's go to the

857
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. It is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

858
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. From the tweet

859
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: sheet from the Bills Monster Rights. And we need to

860
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: eliminate the two preseason games. I think sixteen games played

861
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: in an eighteen game season would make the coaches jobs

862
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: much harder. Different schemes for different quarterbacks, deciding to use

863
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: a player buy on a semi hurt player. Yeah, look,

864
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: I don't care if it makes coaches jobs harder. That's

865
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: all right, but that's not the motivation for doing it.

866
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: But I think Bills Monster's first statement there we need

867
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: to eliminate the two preseason games. Well there's four, so

868
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: you're saying we need to eliminate two, and I agree

869
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: with that. And I think this whole eighteen game regular

870
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: season thing is the result of the acknowledgement by everyone,

871
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: including the commissioner, the preseason football is a bad product

872
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: and it doesn't do the NFL that much good. Well,

873
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: and there are ways to fix that without this artificial

874
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: eighteen game sixteen game player eligibility. And let's let's let

875
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: history teach us a couple of things, because way back

876
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: in the day, it used to be six preseason games

877
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: in training camp. But one of the reasons for that

878
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: was the guys were working second jobs. Football wasn't lucrative

879
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: like it is now. The game was built on guys

880
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: doing things like that. They had six preseason games because

881
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: it would take them that long to go through training

882
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: camp to get in shape to play a regular season.

883
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: They wouldn't show up in shape like they do today.

884
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: They weren't professional athletes, they were part time. They didn't

885
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: work out all yearly. Exactly. They were part time professional

886
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: athletes because they didn't make enough money playing football too.

887
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: You get there, So that's how they got. Then they

888
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: went from six preseason games down to four. They went

889
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: from fourteen regular season games into sixteen regular season games,

890
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: so they started to trade off. Even then we might

891
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: have gotten to the point where that tradeoff might be counterproductive.

892
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: Now where the eighteen game, the game is such that

893
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: you got a professional athletes playing full go all the

894
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: time is a physical game. You can't last sixteen games

895
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: or eighteen game. You couldn't do it eight team games.

896
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: So where where you gonna find the maximum amount of

897
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: regular season games you can get out of the human

898
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: body and without having guys doing stupid stuff to stay

899
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: on the field and giving you know, having a league

900
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: where it's competitive with a long enough season to be

901
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: as lucrative as it can be for the owner. So

902
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the big gray area, and it's going to

903
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if they can come to a

904
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 1: compromise or what they really decide on is going to happen.

905
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: More talk on this when we return. We'll take some

906
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: more phone calls, read some more tweets. I think now

907
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: that the Tasker Plan is being legitimized. Almost you seem

908
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: to be back off a little bit. It's not going

909
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: to happen now. I want to get into the way

910
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Why because you suggest, Because there's

911
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: my idea. We're back in a moment one Wheels Live

912
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: from One Wheels Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio one Bill five.

913
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: John Murphy was Steve Tasker back ready to go to work,

914
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: ten days away from the start of training camp, talking

915
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: about the NFL regular season schedule. Want you to look like,

916
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: what do you think eighteen games? Players only play sixteen?

917
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: That's the Tasker plan from Jamestown. John is on the line,

918
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: and I think he likes the Tasker Plan, right John,

919
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: I love the task you plan. Welcome back, Murphy, Thank you, Steve.

920
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you on your ingenuity here. Need

921
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: to bring this plan to fruition. Yeah, you gotta finish

922
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: it up now, Steve. Make sure John, it's not going

923
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: to happen now, come on, it's gotten. Now that it's

924
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: been legitimized, it's kind of put me on board to

925
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: drive the bus. Why what do you love about What

926
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: do you love about it? Well? I just think, you know,

927
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: everybody knows that the playoff games just are a waste

928
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: of time in this thing, preseason preseason games, schedule and

929
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: give the players more time. And I think that's the

930
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: biggest thing that you brought up, the extra time off

931
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: that they would have, that you need to heal in

932
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: that business. That's a you more than anybody can tell people.

933
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: It's a tough business, right, So, and you like you

934
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: like so you think you said playoffs, but the preseason

935
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: games are worthless? Is that what you're saying? Well, I

936
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: think everybody knows that. And you know, we we've seen

937
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl to degrade to a just a demonstration

938
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: out there, and so they need to do something with

939
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl too, But we can wait with that.

940
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: Do you have any problem with, like say, for instance,

941
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: your team going out and this is and Murph and

942
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: I were talking about this in the break. This would

943
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: be the first time I think either of us can

944
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: think about in pro sports where you've got a healthy,

945
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: great player who you are forced not to play because

946
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: of the rules. So it's like you're going, You're you're

947
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: not giving you know what I mean? Do you have

948
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: any problem with that, like say, going to a game against,

949
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: say the Atlanta Falcons, and you don't get to watch

950
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan or Julio Jones play against your team. I

951
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: have no problem with that at all, and I think

952
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: it gives the coaching staff around the league, the thirty

953
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: two league teams better opportunity for gamesmanship takes more planning

954
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: on their part, and planning in preparation are the keys

955
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: to every good sporting team, and it would give it

956
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: more latitude to the coach. Now, I got one last

957
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: question for you, John, What happens do you want to

958
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: see your team, say, for instance, the Bills get into

959
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: a bind for whatever scheduling snafu and they're going to

960
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: go into New England and Josh Allen and Lashawn McCoy

961
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: have to sit down. Well, and that's and you know

962
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: that that can happen every snap of the ball now,

963
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: and yeah, but but it's not Thank you John for

964
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: calling it can happen and it but it's not artificially mandated.

965
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: Is this Look look at this scenario, and there's a

966
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: million different scenarios. What if the Bills we're going into

967
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: the final week of the season and they had not

968
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: rested Frank Gore for his second mandated game yet, And

969
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: what if Shady McCoy gets hurt the Sunday before and

970
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: so now you're going into the final game of the season,

971
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: and what if you got eight wins or nine wins

972
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: and you need one more to clinch a playoff berth

973
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: and you don't have your top two running backs. Does

974
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: that sound like a good idea? Does that sound like

975
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: a scenario that people would say, Oh, I'm on board

976
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: with that. Oh too bad. You know we didn't Restcore.

977
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: We got arrest him now. And look, I get it,

978
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: there's gamesmanship. You can maneuver your roster, but you can't

979
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: anticipate injuries, legitimate injuries that take people out of the game.

980
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: You don't know when that's gonna happen. What if you

981
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: think we're all set, we're gonna Restcore, We got McCoy,

982
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: McCoy gets hurt on the second snap. Now what now

983
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: you don't have his backup? You don't have because he

984
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: has to rest today. Look just so, and that's just

985
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: one example. It's just not right. It's not fair. It's

986
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: not it's not fair to fans, it's not fair to

987
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: the competitive nature of the game, and it removes the

988
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: urgency and removes the importance of each game. It it

989
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: waters him down each regular season game to have eighteen

990
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: games with that, look, it's bad enough. I get it

991
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: if you want to have an eighteen game schedule, and

992
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: let's leave preseason out of it for a second. I

993
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: get it. Preseason is tough, and it's a problem that

994
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: needs to be fixed. But what if you got an

995
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: eighteen game regular season schedule? That would water down each

996
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: game too, would be a little less meaningful. So seventy

997
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: two games in a base baseball season, yeah, eighty two

998
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: games whatever, right, and if they don't mean as much?

999
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: And NBA has got eighty two game two and hot

1000
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: and hockey's got eighty two games, so that that would

1001
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: obviously they're the NFL's a long way from that. But

1002
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: but here's the thing. What would it And this is

1003
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: the basic question, what would it fix? Go eighteen games?

1004
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: And what is there to fix? What's the problem? What

1005
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: are the benefits would it? Would it make it more

1006
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: interesting on certain days or not? And I'll tell you,

1007
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: just as you were saying that, what if if you

1008
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: know this thing happens. If this thing happens, it's hard

1009
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: to play that game on either side of this argument.

1010
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Because all this stuff could happen with or without eighteen games.

1011
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: You could still get like the Bills last year got

1012
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: forced to start two quarterbacks that had been in town

1013
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: for ten days. So that happens even now, and it

1014
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: you can it's easy to construe a scenario where it

1015
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: would be even worse for some of these teams where

1016
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: they not only can they not play, that they don't

1017
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: have the guy, that the guy's standing right there healthy

1018
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: and can't play. Then that's pretty maddening. But but the

1019
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: scenarios and the what ifs and stuff, you can play

1020
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: all the things, all that all the time, even in

1021
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: a sixteen game schedule the way it currently is. Now.

1022
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: The thing you got to think about is here, does

1023
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: it make it more interesting to watch on any given

1024
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: week or less interesting to watch on any given week?

1025
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know. So that's the debate. Is it

1026
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: more interesting on an eighteen game schedule when you don't

1027
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: have to suffer through two extra weeks of the preseason?

1028
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: Is that a Coka giveaway? Fixed preseason? Put that aside,

1029
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: fixed preseason. I get that, I want to that's a

1030
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: different plan, But on this plan is eighteen games that

1031
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: are watered down with guys that have to sit better

1032
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: than the current system, where four preseason games all four

1033
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: of which stink, and sixteen regular season games that are

1034
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: actually pretty good and meaningful, and you got guys kind

1035
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: of grinding it out trying to get back on the field.

1036
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Do you like that or do you want to go

1037
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: eighteen games where you got guys with a chance to

1038
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: show up, sixteen games healthy, with some time off LinkedIn

1039
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: the team, the games that matter, into a point where

1040
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: you got eighteen games over the same it's the exact

1041
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: same calendar stretch. It's not like they're adding two games

1042
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: on the front of the season or on the back

1043
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: of the season. Does it make it more interesting or

1044
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: does make it less interesting? And that's and and even me,

1045
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: as as the guy here is on this show is

1046
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: taking total credit for this plan. I don't even know

1047
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: if I can answer that. You know what I mean,

1048
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to get to. I want to

1049
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: hear from you. Maybe it's a push. So it's not

1050
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: a push, it's it's bad, but we'll talk more about it.

1051
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: We got that bad, but it's bad because here's the thing.

1052
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: It's bad Josh Allen is four games last year because

1053
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: he was hurt. He didn't miss two because they decided

1054
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna play somebody else, or the rules for them too. Yeah,

1055
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: it's different. What's that got to do with it. It's

1056
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: incredibly different. It's ridiculously different. And besides, if you're hurting,

1057
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: you can't Besides one thing, if if you're forced to

1058
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: decide that's not good, well you got a plan you

1059
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: want Josh Allen. You just mentioned it, the image of

1060
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: a late season, meaningful game, and here's your starting quarterback

1061
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: standing on the sidelines. In fact, I don't even want

1062
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: him on the sidelines. I want him don't even show

1063
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: up the stadium. We don't want that picture of you

1064
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: standing him. And listen to this. If I'm the NFLPA,

1065
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: here's what I do. Give him the week off. Not

1066
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: only can he if you're gonna say it, he gets

1067
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: he's got to be out. I don't want to suspension.

1068
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: It would be a reminder of what a stupid rule

1069
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: this is. Josh Allen can go to Puerto Rico. Think

1070
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: about that. If I'm the Players Association and I'm Demouri

1071
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: Smith saying, okay, you know what I don't want my

1072
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: If you're gonna give him time off, give him time off, yeah,

1073
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: don't just have him standing around taking reps, practicing, lifting weights,

1074
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: doing all this meeting, going in at seven am, getting treatment,

1075
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: getting off. If he's not playing him, I don't want

1076
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: to be reminded he is out for the whole two

1077
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: weeks he's out, and this and that bye week that's

1078
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: getting extended to. If it's a bye week, the players

1079
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: are off for five days. That's another thing. He's getting

1080
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: warmed up. We're gonna take some calls when we come back.

1081
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: Come on back with us. One Bill's Live from One

1082
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio, Colo Hills Radio Network.

1083
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: Story if they comes from One Bill's Drive. And The

1084
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: deadline for NF franchise players to sign long term contract

1085
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: extensions this year is four pm today. The San Francisco

1086
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: forty nine ers beat the deadline over the weekend. They

1087
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: send kicker Robbie Gold. They reached agreement on a two year,

1088
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: ten and a half million dollar, fully guaranteed deal. Might

1089
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: be the only deal done before the deadline, according to sources.

1090
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: Two other players facing the deadline or Houston Texans linebacker

1091
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney and Atlanta Falcons defensive tackle Grady Jarrett. Clowney

1092
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: will not get a deal before the deadline. According to

1093
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: sources Jarrett and the Falcons discussing the deal, there's some

1094
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: hope they can beat Monday's deadline, but Robbie Golds deal,

1095
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: which is agent worked out with the forty nine ers.

1096
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: They've been working on that for months. They reached the

1097
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: breakthrough over the weekend again. Four o'clock today the deadline

1098
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: for franchise players in the NFL to sign the long

1099
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: term extension this year. Otherwise they play under their franchise

1100
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: tag for the upcoming season. Miami Dolphins assistant head coach

1101
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell is taking a leave of absence

1102
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: for the upcoming season. He's got to address an undisclosed

1103
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: health issue. According to the team, Caldwell, six four years old,

1104
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: expected to be away from the Dolphins the focus on

1105
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: his health throughout the season. He will continue to serve

1106
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: as a consultant with the Dolphins and a veteran voice

1107
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: for a new head coach Byan Flores. The Dolphins hired

1108
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: Caldwell in February. An experienced, accomplished offensive mine in two

1109
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: time NFL head coach elsewhere in sports. The Bisons are

1110
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: home to start a seven game homestand tonight home against

1111
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: the Charlotte Knights. Four games in the next four nights,

1112
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: seven h five. First pitch tonight Sean Marromando on the

1113
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: mound for the her tonight. The Bisons wanted Pawtucket yesterday

1114
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: by a score of four to three. They took three

1115
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: of the five games against the pass Socks and long

1116
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: time pound for pound boxing king Parnell Whittaker, one of

1117
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: the greatest boxers in history, was killed last night. He

1118
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: was hit by a car in Virginia Beach, Virginia. He

1119
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: was fifty five years old. An active investigation continuing at

1120
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: Virginia Beach. Parnell Whittaker, with the forty wins, four losses

1121
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: and one draws seventeen knockouts, was struck and killed by

1122
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: a car last night in Virginia Beach. That's sad. He

1123
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: was a close friend of Bruce and I was telling

1124
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: you I spoke to Bruce Smith on the phone last

1125
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: night about something else. This hadn't happened, and this is

1126
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: the first I've heard about. It was that headline, right there.

1127
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Sweet Pea was part of our

1128
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: locker room. Remember at times at the Tragic or another

1129
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: pro Bruce who used to hang around your locker room.

1130
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: He used to walk in the locker room, especially in

1131
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: New York. Friend of Bruce. Maybe he was Whittaker who

1132
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: he was, I think it was. He was a little dude,

1133
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: you know. He said, Oh wow, that's tragic, man. I

1134
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: am so sad to hear that. For Bruce and that

1135
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: whole family said Wow, all right, we're back, We're ready

1136
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: to talk. We got a show coming up here with

1137
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: two hours left to go. We're gonna talk with Daniel

1138
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: Suarez from the NASCAR Monster Cup Series. He's getting ready

1139
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: to race at Watkins Glenn in a couple of weeks.

1140
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about with Doug Ferrar, NFL football

1141
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: observer for USA Today, about his book and about a

1142
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: couple of observe Agency has made. But we got a

1143
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: good discussion going here today. It came about Friday when

1144
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: the commissioner basically revealed that one let's talk about this

1145
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: for a second. The one thing is they are desperately

1146
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: trying to get an agreement on a new CBA before

1147
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: this season, and two that CBA, according to the league,

1148
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: may include an eighteen game regular season schedule, with players

1149
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: limited to sixteen games. The first point the fact that

1150
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: they think that they're trying anyway to get a deal

1151
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: done before this season. Look, they've got another year and

1152
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: a half to go on the current CBA right twenty

1153
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: twenty one, the spring of twenty twenty one. The CBA

1154
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: runs out, not at the end of this coming year,

1155
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: but the end of next year. That's good that they're

1156
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: working on it now. It avoids any sort of shutdown,

1157
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: any kind of lockout if they can get it done now.

1158
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: If you're the players and Peter King wrote about this today,

1159
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: one of them, maybe the biggest bargaining chip you have

1160
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: is the threat of a work stoppage, right, and why

1161
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: would you give that up unless you're getting a lot

1162
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: in return? But the commissioner wants to get a new

1163
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: CBA by the start of this regular season. But if

1164
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: you're the players association, you're thinking, well, that's one of

1165
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: the biggest cards we have to play no football. Why

1166
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: are we going to give that up easily? Strike or

1167
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: work stoppage is is the death knew for the last

1168
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: so one thing that will really hurt the league. And

1169
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: I think the league has got probably pretty good graphic

1170
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: financial numbers over what happened the last time they had

1171
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: a work stoppage nineteen eighty seven. I was a part

1172
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: of that work stops. They were off for four weeks,

1173
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: they had scab games. At twenty eleven, they had the lockout.

1174
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: So they know exactly whether it's a strike or lockout,

1175
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: what they're gonna lose and what it's going to cost them,

1176
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: and they're going to weigh that very heavily into that

1177
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: they want to get this done. I don't think either

1178
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: side it's not in either side's interest at all to

1179
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: have a work stoppage. But the fact that there's a

1180
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: year and a half left, you know, the league can

1181
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: say whatever they want, but it's gonna come down to

1182
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: what they're willing to give up to make sure they

1183
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: have that. And that's and you're right, the players, the

1184
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: players Union has no reason to get, you know, to

1185
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: light a fire under their negotiating process to because the owners,

1186
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: to make their owners happy, they got to get a

1187
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: better deal than they've had in the past. Because rhetorically

1188
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: and the critics and the media and all that and

1189
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: the and the owners kind of they were accused. The

1190
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: owners are kind of accused of rubbing the players noses

1191
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: in it. They thought they got a really good deal

1192
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: last time the owners did, and two hundred and seventy

1193
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: four million in their pocket this last week kind of says, yeah,

1194
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: you know what, they might have been right. So I

1195
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: think the players union because can do anything again. They

1196
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: can drag their feet all they want. They haven't. They

1197
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: are no hurries and send it for them to get

1198
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: it done and unless they get something out of it right,

1199
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: you know what. Obviously, and this time of year when

1200
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: you get into these CBA negotiations in the NFL, I

1201
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: don't follow the other sports to say this with any authority,

1202
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: but in the NFL you find out what's important to

1203
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: both owners and players when it gets down to brass

1204
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: tacks here and look, the players can talk all they

1205
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: want about health and you know, preventing injuries, but when

1206
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: it all comes down to the bottom line, it is

1207
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: the bottom line. It is the money. That's why it

1208
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: wasn't twenty sides both sides. It was that way in

1209
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: eighty seven when we struck and we were out. It

1210
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: was free agency. It was all of that. That's all

1211
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: it was. It was about the money. The the salary

1212
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: cap was about all of that. And that's where it's

1213
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: going to be this time. Now. There are some ancilliary

1214
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: topics and issues that will be brought up and they'll

1215
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: they'll iron those out. I'll say this, and not for nothing,

1216
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: but when when the relationship between the players and the

1217
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: owners were at it was at its healthiest. It was

1218
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: when Gene Upshaw was the head of the players union

1219
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: and Paul Tagliabue was the head of the was the

1220
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: commissioner of the National Football League. They had lunch once

1221
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: a week. They ironed out issues over lunch because they

1222
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: had a relationship where the players knew they were in

1223
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: partnership and Paul Tagliabu, whatever the owners thought, Paul Tagliabu

1224
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: knew that it was the same thing for the owners.

1225
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: They needed the players as well and it was in

1226
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: their best interest to work together. Um. There were there

1227
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: were times when every six months a new agreement would

1228
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: come down from the between the players and the owners

1229
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: and it would be tweaking the CBA. Because those two

1230
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: guys were having lunch. They were working things out from

1231
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: soup to nuts through each issue, and it was a

1232
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: really healthy relationship, and the league ballooned over when Paul

1233
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: Tagliabu took over man all of a sudden, it went

1234
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: from a seven hundred million dollar business to a seven

1235
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: billion dollar business, and now it's like twenty six billion.

1236
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just you know, it all comes down

1237
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: to the relationship between these two groups, and certainly the

1238
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: owners of the guys responsible as anybody for growing the league,

1239
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: but the players are their most valuable asset. And how

1240
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: they handle that relationship I think says a lot about

1241
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: where the league is, how much the league is gonna

1242
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: grow going forward. It's gonna be interesting to see this,

1243
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: it always is. It's yeah. One of the big issues

1244
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: has come up already late last week with the talk

1245
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: of an eighteen game regular season schedule and players being

1246
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: limited to sixteen games. That's our Twitter poll today. I

1247
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: want to get you involved in this. A lot of

1248
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: talk lately about the possible eighteen game regular season. What

1249
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: should an NFL regular season schedule look like? We offer

1250
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: a couple of options on Twitter. Should it be sixteen games,

1251
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: leave it as it is, Should it be eighteen games,

1252
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: players playing in all eighteen Should it be eighteen games

1253
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: and the players play only sixteen. That's a plan a

1254
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: spouse by Steve Tasker and Roger Goodell. Is there something

1255
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: else you think? Right now? Fifty one percent of you

1256
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: say leave it as it is, thirty percent say eighteen games,

1257
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: players eligible for all eighteen games, and only fourteen percent

1258
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: say the Tasker plan is what they're looking for. Give

1259
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: us a call to discuss eight oh three five fifty

1260
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: two three one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1261
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: fifty Send it a tweet. We'll read it on the

1262
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: tweet sheet Brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

1263
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. From the tweet sheet

1264
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: from Charlie. He says, option C is interesting. If that

1265
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: would be the case, backup contracts would skyrocket due to

1266
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: increase value as they would start two games a year.

1267
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: Option see the Tasker plan eighteen games, players play sixteen.

1268
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, he's right about that, right, All of

1269
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: the sudden backups are more valuable for you. There's a

1270
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: lot of subtleties to it. Because here's the thing. You

1271
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: got this young quarterback. Everybody wants to see him play. Well,

1272
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a chance to see him at least twice,

1273
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: you know you want to see And everybody says, Eli

1274
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: Manning stinks, he's gonna let's get this guy in this

1275
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: look at the situation in New York Giants, they're gonna

1276
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: get a look at this kid early if they want

1277
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: they want to win. They don't, that's right, but they

1278
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: want to win. They want wins. They don't care who

1279
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: looks like what. They really don't, that's secondary. Yeah, he's

1280
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: gonna win the game. This thing too. About the thing

1281
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: the other thing he said about what would happen because

1282
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: the gambling and all that, the gambling casinos and the

1283
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: top they'd love it because there's one extra degree of

1284
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: difficulty for everybody. They've got the numbers and they'll figure

1285
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: it out. They're hoping the idiots who gamble on games

1286
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: gamble because there'll be more of those, right, because that's

1287
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: where the casinos make their money on the people who

1288
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing. Right, Well, they're always win right.

1289
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: The house was winning. Yeah, now that's a chance for

1290
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: him to win big once in a while. A tweet

1291
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: from Steve He says, the best schedule the sketchers look

1292
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: like this, sixteen games and add a second by owners

1293
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: get one more week of football to sell the networks.

1294
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: Players get an extra week of rest. They had that right,

1295
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: the two bye week. Did you play under that or

1296
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: was that fter you too? Yeah? Did you have? Now?

1297
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: I remember playing on two A couple of years. There

1298
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: were two bye weeks right for every team, weren't there? Yeah?

1299
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: I see that's the thing too with this here. It's

1300
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: a and I get it. It's a little bit of

1301
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: being political correct. Everybody's upset about players safety and and

1302
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: the old guys like me are kind of poop poo

1303
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: and I'm not really poop poo and the old you know,

1304
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: because I played hurt. I mean, and every guy does.

1305
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: I think some of this isn't easy nod to the

1306
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: culture we live in these days where players health and

1307
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: particularly like in youth football and stuff, where the league

1308
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: is trying to set an example for the lower levels

1309
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: and you know, make sure that that they acknowledge that

1310
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, you need good rest between Yeah, given guys

1311
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: two weeks off during a sixteen or eighteen game schedule,

1312
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: I get it. Some of that is and like I

1313
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: said earlier in the show, Murph, it keeps guys maybe

1314
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: from having to take a needle to go out and play,

1315
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: and he keeps guys from doing stupid stuff trying to

1316
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: play when in situation or a week to week basically

1317
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: when they really shouldn't. Aryn Johnson a great example from

1318
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: last year. He kind of kept going and Kevin finally

1319
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: they said he cannot go anymore. He kept dislocating his

1320
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: shoulder during the games because he kept trying to play.

1321
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: That to me, is a little overboard. You're always going

1322
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: to get guys who have to plagued with discomfort, and

1323
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: this would give them a built in way to keep

1324
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: that from going overboard the way it was back in

1325
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: the fourteen game schedule, back in the seventies and early eighties,

1326
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: when these guys were going out there playing with real problems.

1327
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that these problems today aren't real problems,

1328
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: but you know, doing really silly stuff, Staying in the

1329
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: game when they couldn't even see the play, didn't know

1330
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: what the play was, staying the game when they weren't

1331
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: we're dead on their feet. Sending them back into the

1332
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: game after they've been knocked cold. Things like that won't

1333
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: happen as frequently when you got these built in things

1334
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: where you guys got a guy has a stretch of

1335
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to get back together physically. That

1336
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to me. But there's still

1337
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: this o this scenario where you're standing there in a

1338
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: game you gotta win, and your best players standing they're

1339
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: fully healthy. That's hard that you can't get around. Yeah,

1340
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: you can't get around it. You can't get around it. Now,

1341
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't Here's the thing too, These games are still

1342
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna mean a lot. Two extra games is okay, you

1343
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: can go nine and nine on the season instead of

1344
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: eight and eight. But here's the thing. They're still gonna

1345
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: mean something. They're gonna need a lot more than game

1346
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: thirty two of a eighty two game schedule. But nevertheless,

1347
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: you know that that built in excuse to sit a

1348
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: guy down, I think it is going to help him

1349
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: in that regard health wise. And I don't know if

1350
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: you can. Everybody else got everybody's got there, but you

1351
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: got opinion, I got opinion, every listeners got opinion? Is

1352
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: that worth having the guys sit down healthy? And I

1353
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: don't know a lot of fans are gonna say and shooting, no,

1354
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't care put that guy in there. I don't

1355
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: care if he's hurt you seriously, sure, you know, that's

1356
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: just the way life is. Let's take a few phone

1357
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: calls to get some opinions. Harry on the line, waiting patiently.

1358
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: Harry from New Hampshire. Hello, Harry, welcome to the show.

1359
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for taking the call. You know you

1360
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: should get Jim Kelly on the phone. Because the USFL

1361
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: used to play an eighteen game schedule. Get his take

1362
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: on what it was like. Good point. I didn't know that.

1363
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know that either. What's the CFL? What's your

1364
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: son play? They say, eighteen games? Eighteen games and three buys,

1365
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: three buys during the course of yeah, two preseason, Yeah,

1366
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: two preseason games, and they go right into I mean

1367
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: it's like seven days later they're in the regular season,

1368
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: and they go weekend and they play every every week

1369
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: from Thursday until Sunday. They play all games of the week.

1370
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: They don't play on Tuesday, Wednesday, not too much, but

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01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: they'll play every game of every day of a long

1372
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: weekend or on every day throughout the season. Go ahead, Harry,

1373
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: what else you got? Yeah? Well, Steve, though, in the CFL,

1374
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: do they give a bye week if you're playing an

1375
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: early midweek game. Because that's what I was going to

1376
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: suggest to the NFL. They should add, you know, maybe

1377
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: two or a second or even a third bye week,

1378
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: but put you know, have a bye before the Thursday

1379
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: night game, or if you want to make more money,

1380
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: create a Wednesday night game and make sure the team

1381
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: that plays on teams to play on Wednesday have a

1382
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: bye ahead of time. Well here's one thing. Here's one thing,

1383
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: and here's how the CFL gets around it. They have

1384
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: designated days pre Like you go out and you say, okay,

1385
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna play on Sunday. There is a certain schedule

1386
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: of days you have to get ready for that game,

1387
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: and they limit that in the CFL. So instance, if

1388
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: you play on a Wednesday night, your day one or

1389
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: day zero of your next game doesn't start until the

1390
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: next Tuesday, for instance. You know what I'm saying. So

1391
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: they can only have limited access to their players. So

1392
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: that's one way the CFL gets around that. They you

1393
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: have day zero, one, two, and three to get ready

1394
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: for your games, which is ostensibly day four. That kind

1395
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: of thing. So they have a certain limited amounts like

1396
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: college football, where they only get their players for twenty

1397
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: hours a week. The CFL limits the number of days

1398
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: you've got your players for given whereever that game is.

1399
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: If it's a Thursday night game, your your work week

1400
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: starts earlier, and if it's a if you've got a

1401
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: bye week, they're gone until you know, until that day

1402
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: zero the next game. So the NFL could probably learn

1403
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: something from that in this eighteen game schedule thing, because

1404
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: that would really help. You know, that gives players some

1405
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: time off. So yeah, that's a good that's a good idea.

1406
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: Actually to look at the CFL, they do some of this.

1407
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: They have an eighteen game schedule. They got two bye

1408
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: weeks and and two preseason games. But it's a different game.

1409
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: It's a different game too in what way not a

1410
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: physical or well, I don't know. If it's not as physical,

1411
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: Guys are still getting nicked up up there, but it's

1412
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: a wider field. It's a much bigger field. It's three

1413
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: down football, not four down football. Special teams are a

1414
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: completely different animal up there. So it's you know, it's

1415
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: comparing a leopard to a tiger, or a jaguar to

1416
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: a leopard or something like, you know what I mean.

1417
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: If if it's not apples to apples. We were, in fact,

1418
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: you were talking this morning. I've watched a few minutes

1419
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: on TV Saturday night, but you were there in Hamilton,

1420
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: Calgary and Hamilton. Yeah, I was Hamiltons one they did Yeah,

1421
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: first time they beat in Calgary at home. And since

1422
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and that's they've been to a

1423
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: couple of great Cups since then. Played all right, he's

1424
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: he's nick he's nicked up, is he? Yea's I'm watching

1425
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: and this got my attention just because you made that point.

1426
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm watching on TV Saturday night and the announcer said, oh,

1427
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: the tie Cats now have gone two and out the

1428
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: last couple of possessions. As it two and out, it

1429
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: happens fast. It happens fast. You get two plays and

1430
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: then you got a punt. It really happens fast. Yeah,

1431
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: And then they punt. And when the punt comes down,

1432
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: they have to give the guy five yards to catch

1433
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: it or field it. And if they don't give him

1434
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: five yards and he catches it on the flies a

1435
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty. If he lets it bounce and they

1436
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: don't give him five yards, it's a five yard I

1437
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: gotta watch more. They're always on ESPN, right the game.

1438
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've got a nice little deal with ESPN,

1439
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: and they and my you know, grandma and grandpa catch

1440
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: it back and can't they can catch you. The tie

1441
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: Cats are playing well, Lucy, four and one going, and

1442
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: this is a bye week for them after a really

1443
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: rough year last year. Right yeah, they started like oh

1444
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: and eight last year. No, no, no, no, that's not

1445
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: I us two years ago. I can't remember what. Man,

1446
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: it's been some h NFL schedule? What do you think?

1447
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: Jim on the line from South Carolina. Hello, Jim, go ahead,

1448
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Good afternoon, Thank you for taking

1449
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: my call. I'm in favor of both your plans put together.

1450
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: You have to eliminate two of the preseason games, and

1451
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: Steve you're you're you're right on with your plan because

1452
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: you want to put a healthy sixteen game product with

1453
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: the players healthy and don't want to take them off

1454
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: the field during critical games. But the other question I

1455
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: have too is, say the NFL does expand to at game,

1456
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: what do they add another team to the AFC East.

1457
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: What's the balance of the schedule gonna look like. Do

1458
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: we play in New England three times during the year.

1459
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's going to be critical when it comes

1460
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: to playoff time. Yeah, where do those two games come from?

1461
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: You're saying, is that what your question is? Jim? Yeah,

1462
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: because we already you know, you play the you know, Miami,

1463
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: New York, and New England two times a year or so. Well, Jim,

1464
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: that's a that's kind of a minor question because here's

1465
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: what happened. You playing an out of conference uh division

1466
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: or an or an interconference division. So I think the

1467
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: BI the AFC East is playing the North this year,

1468
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: or no, they're playing uh yeah, they're playing the AFC North.

1469
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: So you just add all four teams in instead of

1470
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: just the top two teams, you'd add the top and

1471
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, you just play the extra

1472
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: two teams in each division or one of each team

1473
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: in the other division that you're playing out of out

1474
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: of division anyway, either one in the NFC the go

1475
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: the other conference, right, you can go to the other conference.

1476
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: You can play an extra team in the NFC East

1477
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: and the af North this year if you're the Bills

1478
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: in their schedules, so that that's kind of easy. They've

1479
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: got they've got the Giants, they've got Philadelphia, Washington, and Dallas,

1480
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: and then they play Cincinnati, they play Cleveland, Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

1481
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: So you could add one team from each of the

1482
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: other two divisions or one of the other two divisions easily,

1483
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: you know, so that that's not too but adding two

1484
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: extra games onto the schedule is not that big a deal.

1485
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: You can just you know, just do it like you

1486
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: do now, just cross divisions in this in the conference

1487
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: or out of the conference. Thank you very much, Jim.

1488
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to David and Brockport. Hello, David, welcome to

1489
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: the show. All right, Murphy, Steve Hi, I like the

1490
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: eighteen sixteen Steve, Yeah, well, and what are you willing

1491
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: to live with a team like, for instance, in the

1492
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: worst case scenario where you got your favorite player of

1493
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: all time, best player in the league, has to sit

1494
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: down even if it's even though it's a game you

1495
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: gotta win and he's Dan and they're healthy to start

1496
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: start the first sixteen games with the starters thinking they

1497
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: can wrap it up in sixteen and they won't. Wow, yeah,

1498
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: well maybe yeah that could be December preseason then yeah,

1499
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: think about that. You go, you'd walk backwards? Now does

1500
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: that make it what are we fixing? What are you

1501
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: trying to fix? What's wrong with the game at the schedule? Now, yeah,

1502
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there's not much wrong with it. Here's

1503
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: the thing, and that it's a good question because and

1504
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: we thought about this too, It is a good question.

1505
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: You're not trying to fix anything. And I think one

1506
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: reason is this Murphy. Everybody thinks there's still this whole

1507
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: when every time the season ends, there's this whole big

1508
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: appetite for more football. People still want to see more football.

1509
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: So the NFL, instead of letting the AAF take root

1510
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: or the WWF take root, they want to get the

1511
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: money themselves. They want to fill that appetite themselves by

1512
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: either changing or enhance well theoretically by enhancing their product.

1513
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: But it's hard to do because you're not gonna make

1514
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: these it's hard to say. Or you know what, we're

1515
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna play twenty games this year instead of sixteen, and

1516
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: you can like it or lump it. That's our schedule. Well,

1517
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, then you got a guy going out there.

1518
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: He's got two broken legs and a dislocated army. He

1519
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: can never play football again, right, Trying to play all

1520
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: eighteen or twenty those games, and I'm exaggerating on both

1521
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: ends of this to make the point. It becomes a

1522
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: train wreck of a season physically for the players and

1523
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: maybe you know, it ends a bunch of careers and

1524
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: for the NFL. You know, they get twenty games and

1525
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: everybody's like, gosh, these games are horrible. You know, Well, yeah,

1526
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: you don't. I just the only people that benefits are owners.

1527
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's enough to make the change.

1528
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, president of the Packers, has a plan that

1529
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: maybe compared to the Tasker plan. We'll talk about that,

1530
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: I promise when we come back after this break. Come

1531
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: on back. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health from

1532
01:13:51,439 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. One Bill's Live.

1533
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: John Murphy was steep Tasker here until three o'clock today.

1534
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with Doug Ferrar, who recovers the NFL

1535
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: for USA today. Coming up. He's got a great book

1536
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: out there, The Genius of Desperation, that I am plowing through,

1537
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: loving it. Before we get to the Murphy plan, yeah,

1538
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to interrupt. What I do want to interrupt, Well,

1539
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, I got something that just came to me

1540
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: about this, this eighteen game sixteen game. Yeah, it's good,

1541
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: and we've got some people say, why don't you just

1542
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: add a bye week and linked in this because that

1543
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: was the bye week anyway. They wanted to lengthen the

1544
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: season so they have more TV revenue and all the

1545
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: more weekends. Right, here's the problem, and here's the question

1546
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: that spurred from that this eighteen game sixteen games thing.

1547
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: When you've got your stars sitting all right, say, for instance,

1548
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: if think about every other team in the league, don't

1549
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: think about your own team, Like with Josh Allen and

1550
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: Lashaw McCoy, they both have to sit down in a game,

1551
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: you gotta win that. That stinks, right, no question about it.

1552
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: For all Bills fans everywhere. That's gonna stink. What happens though,

1553
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: about every other team? When every other team has to

1554
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: sit there stars, Doesn't it mean that the thirty one

1555
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: other fan basis of the league looking at your team

1556
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: from afar? Doesn't that make that team over there more

1557
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 1: interesting to everybody else? I think it does? Oh no, no, no,

1558
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: I think it does. Do the Patriots become Packers more

1559
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,879
Speaker 1: interesting when Aaron Rodgers is not playing? Are the Patriots

1560
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't you love to see the Patriots without Tom Brady?

1561
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: Not really? Ill, come on, Look, he's not a favorite

1562
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,560
Speaker 1: of mine. I'm not a fan. But he is a

1563
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: legitimate NFL All Star Hall of Fame candidates. Oh he's

1564
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: a first ballot. Yeah, you want to see him play.

1565
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: You want to see excellence. You don't want to see

1566
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: less than excellence. Why do you go to Brady automatically?

1567
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: You know you want to see the Kansas City Chiefs

1568
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: without Pat Mahomes. Not really, you want to lead them.

1569
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: I'd kind of like to see what what Andy Reid

1570
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: does with whoever's behind him, which I don't even know

1571
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: who it is. Oh no, no, oh, I kind of

1572
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I kind of interest me. The league

1573
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: is built on stars. I'd like to see the quarter

1574
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: they see the Charges without Philip? Who is that guy?

1575
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: And they play without him? How big a drop off

1576
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: is there? No, I want to see it. I think

1577
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: every other franchise would be cheering or at least curious.

1578
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 1: Even I think it makes other franchises more interesting when

1579
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, how much that guy really mean to that?

1580
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: Plus it's like, you know what, that kid played pretty

1581
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: good when he was in there. Let's get him next year,

1582
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, let's make him pay him that kind of thing.

1583
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: It has another degree of difficulty to the structuring of

1584
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: your roster, to the plan you've got to have if

1585
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: something happened, and even now, coaching staffs, personnel staffs, general managers,

1586
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: regimes all over the league, you've got to have a

1587
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: plan for when something happens to Josh, something happens to

1588
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: la Sean McCoy, some happs to Tom Brady, something happens

1589
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: with these guys. So you got to have a plan. Theoretically,

1590
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: hopefully you never have to use it. Right now, you know,

1591
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: you got to use it. Yeah, you don't have to

1592
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: artificially create situations to check that plan out though, And

1593
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: that's what this is. Well, here's the thing too, it

1594
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't be artificial anymore. It'd be real, it'd be it'd

1595
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: be constructed. Yeah. Plus you don't need it. And here's

1596
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: the thing too, your idea of you always say your

1597
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: idea of fair is different than my idea of fair.

1598
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this a lot because and I

1599
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: get what you're saying. You say it's not fair to

1600
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: ask fans to play full price for a game when

1601
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: the teams doesn't have its best players. Kansas City's coming

1602
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: to town, but Pat Mahomes won't play hard to I

1603
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: don't want to go to that game. Right, here's the thing.

1604
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: It's fair when you know the rules going in and

1605
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: the rules apply to everybody the same. To me, that's fair,

1606
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: and it's not fun. There is a place where you

1607
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: can get stung by that, but fair. That's what fair

1608
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: is if the rules are the same for everybody and

1609
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: they apply to everybody. So if you know there's a

1610
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: chance you would go to sixteen games or your team,

1611
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: you're nine games here in in New Era Field and

1612
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: nine weeks in a row, or nine games in a

1613
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: row at home, you're gonna you don't get to see

1614
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady play, you don't get to see Pat Mahomes play.

1615
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: You don't get to see Matt Stafford play. You don't

1616
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: get to see Eli Manning play. You don't get to

1617
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: see Sam Darnold play. You can go down the list

1618
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: all six so all those games, none of those teams

1619
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: play their starter against you. And there's a chance that

1620
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: you could buy a season ticket and that's your that's

1621
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: your schedule, and fair is one thing it's definitely less attractive.

1622
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: It's it's just not as much of a game. It's

1623
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: not as an attractive a ticket they have. If the

1624
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: starters aren't playing. And I said this too, you're and

1625
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: here you're you're, there's no question you you got a point.

1626
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. And I told you this,

1627
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: but before this last after this last break, this would

1628
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: I think this would be the most fundamental change in

1629
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. Maybe it's the merger, well, yeah, I gotta

1630
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 1: think about that, but I think it would be a

1631
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: negative change. I think it would make the games less interesting.

1632
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: Fairness is one thing, fairness to fans. It would make

1633
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: the games less of an attraction. It would devalue the games.

1634
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: Certain we would value the game. Certain games. Why would

1635
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: you want to do that? Why do you want to

1636
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 1: do that? Certain games are the problem we're trying to

1637
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: solve here. I don't see it. Let's get to some

1638
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,799
Speaker 1: calls here, Let's go to a body in a car. Although, Bonnie,

1639
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: thanks for waiting. You're on the air with this. Hi guys, hi, Hi.

1640
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 1: This is just my opinion. But I would love to

1641
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: see eighteen regular season games knock out those two preseason

1642
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: games because nobody watches them anyway. Well, I'm sorry, but

1643
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: these guys on the fields are making millions and the

1644
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,919
Speaker 1: people in the stand there's no way that makes millions

1645
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: of dollars okay, and they're paying for it. So I say,

1646
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: the guys in the field, don't pull any of your

1647
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: start suck it up buttercups. Thank you, Manny, you are

1648
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: a sweet owners. The owners are gonna make money on it, Okay.

1649
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: Go back to the CBA and work out a way

1650
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: to pay these guys. Well, it would be a twelve

1651
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: and a half percent theoretically, would be a twelve and

1652
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: a half percent raise in product. And if you pro

1653
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: rate at twelve and a half percent on the salary

1654
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: cap on one hundred and eighty million dollars salary cap,

1655
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: it would put it up around a two hundred million

1656
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: about And then if the rosters were all the same

1657
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: size as they are now, that money would trickle down

1658
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: to everybody. So I get that. Yeah, they would get

1659
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: paid ostensibly for what they do. Boy, just one thing,

1660
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: you're assertion that nobody watches preseason that's not entirely accurate.

1661
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: Steve will tell you this is here in Buffalo, especially

1662
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: those preseason football Bills football telecasts are the highest rated

1663
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: TV shows in the month of August, right, I mean,

1664
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: and you know that the highest rated TV show's biggest

1665
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: audience from August. That's maybe for the whole year, well

1666
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: not preseason, but NFL is And believe me, Bonnie, that's

1667
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: why this is an option for owners. They're saying, Well,

1668
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: if we can get these pretty good ratings for meaningless

1669
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 1: preseason games, what if we have slightly less meaningful regular

1670
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: season games, Uh, maybe we'll get an even bigger audience.

1671
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: People watch preseasons football. So you're saying, like, even if

1672
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: say that, for instance, they were gonna go eighteen games

1673
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: and play everybody, you still think that devalues the games

1674
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: because because there's just too many of them. Too many games. Yea,

1675
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: too many, but not as much as sixteen game players playing.

1676
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: That would that would incredibly that would water down the

1677
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: same product. Yeah, yeah, I get and eighteen games devalues games,

1678
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: devalues each game. It does slightly not like what can

1679
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: you can do the masks twelve and a half percent? Yeah,

1680
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Speaker 1: call here from Corey and Tonawanda. Hello Corey, welcome to

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01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you very much, John, I thank you much. Um,

1682
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: miss checker, I got two questions. If you don't mind asking, sure,

1683
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: go ahead. The first question, I think they should have

1684
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: two teams to I think they should have more than

1685
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: twelve pluck team going to the playoffs. They should get

1686
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: fourteen teams going to the playoffs to make it more interested.

1687
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: And instead of having two more like more win two

1688
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: more teams on one right and I other side, they

1689
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: should make it too like the top sixteen teams they

1690
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: get set playoffs, so those last two games could be meaningful,

1691
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: those star players leaving it could be more interesting. Well,

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: Steve has talked about that earlier in the show that

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01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 1: Key Values the regular Season two. Yeah, and I was

1694
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this too, and I when we

1695
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: were talking about this, you know, a couple of weeks there,

1696
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 1: we had a thing about realignment and if you go

1697
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: to if you do this, you could have a chance

1698
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: a spot where you could forget the divisions and all

1699
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 1: that stuff. Maybe just say hey, it's a if you

1700
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: got an eighteen game schedule, you can do it. You

1701
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: could do around robin, around robin schedule and play all

1702
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: the teams in your conference and two out of conference

1703
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: or something like that, and you could do all of

1704
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: that and give away with the do away with the

1705
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: divisional series is all together, and you could say, hey,

1706
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: top eight teams in each conference go to the playoffs.

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01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: Let's go, and that kind of thing. So it would

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01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: be you just take the top eight teams instead of

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01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: the division winners, because then now we got that kind

1710
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: of that convoluted way when you get two division winners

1711
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: and you got one division that's got one by nine

1712
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: and seven, and then you got a ten and six

1713
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: team over here that gets shut out of the playoffs

1714
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 1: because there's two eleven and five teams somewhere else. So

1715
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: you get that kind of problem once in a while.

1716
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: So you get you don't get the best eight teams

1717
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: all the time. Most of the time you do, but

1718
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: you don't get them all the time, and then sometimes

1719
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: there's a there's a coin flip of a difference between

1720
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 1: these two teams. So you know, I could see doing that.

1721
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't like going more playoff teams, but if you

1722
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: want to stack the teams and rank them better than

1723
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: you do, now, the division's kind of hamstring here in

1724
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: your ability to do that. Hey, we've been talking about

1725
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: the Mark Murphy plan, and I promise we'll talk about

1726
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: it when we come back right after the break. Come

1727
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: on back One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from

1728
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back,

1729
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Down murd be

1730
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: back with Steve Tasker here until three. Doug Ferrar from

1731
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: Where's He From USA Today is going to join us

1732
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: coming up in the third and final hour, and we're

1733
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna hear we think from NASCAR driver Daniel Suarez third

1734
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: season and the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series. You talk

1735
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,839
Speaker 1: to us about the NASCAR race coming up at Watkins

1736
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: Glen in a couple of weeks. We'll talk with Daniel

1737
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: Suarrez about that he had a pretty good weekend Saturday

1738
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: night in Kentucky in a shake there. We'll talk a

1739
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: little about that he had. He was on the pole

1740
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: and led for forty nine labs. So they took, they

1741
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: took a got a flat tire. I think, well, no, no, no,

1742
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: they they came in for a pitch stop and the

1743
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: guy because there was a yellow flag because somebody blew

1744
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: a tire, so he comes in for a pit stop.

1745
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: They got four new tires. Everybody else got two, took

1746
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: him a couple extra seconds. He came out in thirteenth

1747
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: after leading and then made the big rally to get back,

1748
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: and then had to take one last pit stop too.

1749
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: He got caught having to take an extra pit stop,

1750
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: so he but he wrote rally back and got all

1751
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: the way back to eight coming back from the Daniel

1752
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 1: Suarez going to join us. Next hour, we continue to

1753
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: talk about the NFL schedule. Mark Murphy, Clarence native right

1754
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: Colgate football player, played for Washington Now, of course the

1755
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: president of the Green Bay Packers. He doesn't like the

1756
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule plan, but he has a proposal. Murphy,

1757
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: quoted over the weekend, is saying there's some things we

1758
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: can do that would allow us to play more games

1759
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: at neutral sites, either internationally or non NFL. Murphy would

1760
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: prefer a seventeen game schedule with the extra game being

1761
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: played as a neutral site game or an international game. Basically,

1762
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: that means every team in the league would either play

1763
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: at a neutral site or international site every year. Seventeen

1764
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: game schedule. Um yeah, I mean they could play domestically,

1765
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: they could play shoot. The Bills could play at Syracuse

1766
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: if they wanted to. The Lions could play in ann

1767
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: Arbor or East Lansing, right, you can play whatever you want.

1768
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: It's one thing. Yeah, that's interesting, and it would be

1769
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: you could think of all the domestic spots where you

1770
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: could play and you know, I mean anything you want them.

1771
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: But internationally it would open up while I would take

1772
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: the lid off, you know, I mean it could be

1773
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: for one time events, you could go anywhere in the world.

1774
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: I mean you could we could play in South America, Africa, Russia,

1775
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: any of these places. I mean, it'd be interesting to

1776
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: see that take shape. But Australia, I mean, I don't

1777
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 1: know if you could get to Australia in time for

1778
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: a one week game. Well, you need bye weeks and

1779
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: playing talks about a couple of two bye weeks. We

1780
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier. The once it was only

1781
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: one season. I guess nineteen ninety three the NFL had

1782
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: one season with two bye weeks for each team. You'd

1783
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: have to go back to that. I did play in

1784
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: that season ninety three. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's an

1785
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: interesting concept by Mark Murphy and maybe, um, you know,

1786
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: it's something that would take the sting out of an

1787
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: eighteen game sixteen played game. The problem going back to

1788
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: ninety three, the problem was that when you got to

1789
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: two bye weeks, there were so many weeks when you

1790
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: only had like eight games on the on their schedule,

1791
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, and those games were horrible. You know, none

1792
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: of the none of the teams you wanted to watch

1793
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: were playing. They were all like all the NFC West

1794
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: teams were playing that week. And you know, none of

1795
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: the none of your division opponents were playing, none of

1796
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: your conference opponent, you know, none of your team was playing.

1797
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: Nobody was interesting, none of the teams that were the

1798
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: best teams playing. Right now, you had all these two

1799
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: and six teams playing against each other, right So that

1800
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 1: was one of the problems with the eight with the

1801
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: two bye weeks there were the schedule was so thin

1802
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: during those bye weeks that it was like that the

1803
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: ratings stunk and now yeah, and and the TV people

1804
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Rosa Stak said, you ain't doing that anymore. Yeah, So

1805
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 1: they didn't the concept of eighteen games, players play sixteen.

1806
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of traction out of that. Today,

1807
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: our buddy Denny Lynch, you know Denny, long time Bills employees,

1808
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: texted this game this in eighteen game schedule does not

1809
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: apply to quarterback, punter, kicker, or long snapper. I know

1810
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 1: that's one of Who cares about the kicker, punter, long snapper?

1811
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 1: What do you do if you have to sitting out

1812
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: your long snapper for two games? Hire a long snapper

1813
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: for what? Like? Do you think, Yeah, you want to

1814
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: lose a game that way? Pardon me, pardon me for

1815
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: poo pooing their contribute. You need to gotta make eight snaps?

1816
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: You can, there's guys out there they can do that.

1817
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: You want to lose a game that way? Is that

1818
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: the way you want to see it? I don't look.

1819
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: I think, thank you, maybe gonna win. Thank you, Denny.

1820
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I know that's part of the plan.

1821
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: They've talked about exemptions for certain positions. I think the

1822
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: whole plan stinks. It is it is, I think, and

1823
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: an unneeded, unnecessary change in a format that currently work.

1824
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: I think it um waters down the product. I think

1825
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: it dilutes the quality of the game. So whether you're

1826
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: exempting long snappers or punters, or kickers or quarterbacks, I

1827
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm against it. Made that clear a couple

1828
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 1: of months ago, and now it comes it rises and

1829
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: the one thing you've said that that is absolutely true

1830
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: and it can't be disputed. If it's not broken, what

1831
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: you what are you trying to fix? I get it? Sixteen?

1832
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: This is six You got thirty two teams. It's a

1833
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: sixteen game schedule. You got eight teams in each conference

1834
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: that make the playoffs. It's no six teams and he's

1835
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: what is it? Six teams in each conference that make

1836
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs? That's the right number. It's hard to get

1837
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and you gotta play really good to

1838
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: get there. There's it's a grueling, hard, physical season to

1839
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: get through. You give them a bye week somewhere along

1840
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: the line, to give them that extra week someplace so

1841
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: they can give a little bit of time where they

1842
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: can take a deep breath. And wherever it hits, you

1843
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 1: can tell that the really appreciate it because it falls

1844
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: at just the right time. It doesn't matter if it's

1845
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: week one or week fifteen. These guys really need it.

1846
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's stretching their ability to get these guys

1847
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 1: ready to its max. The games are absolutely compelling. There's

1848
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: sixteen of them you got, so it's you got to

1849
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: admit it is not broken, and whatever they do to

1850
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: try and enhance this, it is absolutely a money grab.

1851
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: It's absolutely a concession to their television partners giving them

1852
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: more product and letting them make more money to make

1853
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: the relationship that much healthier. But if you're there's just

1854
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: no reason to fix or hamstring the eight hundred pound gorilla.

1855
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,799
Speaker 1: It's the thing. Is the best league on the planet,

1856
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 1: bar none. I mean, nobody can touch it, right, And

1857
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do something like that, you better make

1858
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: sure you got a wire so it's gonna work. See again,

1859
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 1: you've changed you or we call it the Tasker plan.

1860
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Were their proponent for this plan? What happened now that

1861
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: there's a chance you're right, You don't know, you know

1862
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: what I'm sitting You sit there at night and you're

1863
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: thinking about because the league is always evolving. Yeah, and

1864
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: you see the XFL come in and the AAF come

1865
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: in and all this die, and you know, yeah, but

1866
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: there's more out there, there's more money out there. There's

1867
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: lets me call it what it is, and the league

1868
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: is gonna chase it. Murph. Well, and I'm trying to

1869
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: come up with a way that it won't blow everything up.

1870
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: And this may eventually. But what is a way that

1871
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: they can like and they can quench the appetite for

1872
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: the football and get the right amount where there's just like, oh,

1873
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: it's perfect, let's go, you know, let's get an off seat. Whatever.

1874
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: What is the way they can do that that makes sense.

1875
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Is there no saturation point? Is there no point beyond

1876
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: which That's that's the critical question. And I think the

1877
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: answer is not yet. They haven't found it yet. Not yet.

1878
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 1: That's the problem that we're facing. Not yet. I don't

1879
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: think we need it. All right, we got another hour

1880
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 1: to go, Come on back. One Bill's Live presented by

1881
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio,

1882
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Hello Hills Radio Network. Sportspting comes from One Bill Driver.

1883
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: About two hours away from an important NFL deadline, the

1884
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: four PM deadline for franchised players to sign long term

1885
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: extensions this year, forty nine Ers took care of their

1886
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: franchise player earlier, signing kicker Robbie Gold a Green on

1887
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: a two year, ten and a half million dollars fully

1888
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: guaranteed deal. Gold's Agent's been in the works for a

1889
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now. The forty nine Ers have an

1890
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: option where they can pick up the remaining two years

1891
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: on his contract, but they've assured themselves of having their

1892
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: thirty six year old franchise kicker under contract for at

1893
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: least the next two seasons. Might be the only deal

1894
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: done before the four pm franchise tag deadline, according to sources.

1895
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Two other players facing the deadline are Texans linebacker Jadabian

1896
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: Clowney and Falcons defensive Taco Grady Jarrett. Clowney, according to sources,

1897
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: will not get a deal done before the deadline. Grady

1898
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: Jarrett and the Falcons are discussing the deal. There's some

1899
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: hope they can beat the deadline, which is now just

1900
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: a couple hours away. Miami Dolphins assistant head coach quarterbacks

1901
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: coach Jim Caldwell is taking a leave of absence for

1902
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 1: the entire twenty nine season two address an undisclosed health issue.

1903
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: Caldwell was hired in February and experienced, accomplished offensive mind

1904
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: to assist brand new head coach Brian Flores at Miami.

1905
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 1: He's a two time NFL head coach and was hired

1906
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: just after Flora's got the job at Miami. Called Well,

1907
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: sixty four years old, expected to be away from the

1908
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: team to focus on hisself throughout the season. Let the

1909
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: Dolphins say he will serve as a consultant for the

1910
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 1: team and a veteran voice for coach Brian Flores. Baseball,

1911
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: the Bison's home to start a seven game homestand they

1912
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 1: wrapped up their road train with a fourth three win

1913
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: at pot Tucket yesterday. The Herd now home to play

1914
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: seven straight at the Downtown Ballpark. They start seven oh

1915
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: five tonight against Charlotte Knights, game one of a four

1916
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: game series. Sean Maromando will be on the mound for

1917
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: the Herd tonight. And former boxing champion Parnell Whittaker, one

1918
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: of the great boxers in history, was killed last night

1919
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,839
Speaker 1: when he was hit by a car in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

1920
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: He was fifty five years old. And that's the update

1921
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 1: from One Bill Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, a lot

1922
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: of discussions today about the NFL schedule, the eighteen game schedule.

1923
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: We've got a bonified NFL expert on the line with

1924
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: us right now. Doug Farrar as an NFL writer for

1925
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: USA Today Sports, the author of the book The Genius

1926
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: of Desperation, spent a long time as a writer at

1927
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated dot com. Doug, John Murphy and Steve Tasker

1928
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: up here in Buffalo, thank you for joining us. How

1929
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: are you guys today? We're great. We got a lot

1930
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: to talk to you about. I want to start, though,

1931
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 1: with a topic that Steve and I have kind of

1932
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: talked about for a couple of hours, and that's the

1933
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: league proposal. At least put there talking about it anyway.

1934
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Eighteen game schedule. Players can only play limited to sixteen games.

1935
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: Two part question, Doug, what do you think of that

1936
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: playing and how viable is that? Is that going to happen? Well,

1937
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: if you're going to move to eighteen, even if you

1938
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 1: have sixteen, you've got because I mean, you guys know

1939
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: this in preseason the starters play for like a half

1940
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: in the third game, and other than that they're barely

1941
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 1: out there. Even if you give every player two buys,

1942
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, who you're gonna have to hire more people

1943
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 1: to at the league level to monitor roster management so

1944
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: teams don't try and get funky with the monkey as

1945
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 1: far as hey, let's get Tom Brady out there for

1946
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: games seventeen and eighteen, things like that, because the Patriots

1947
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: would you know, never do something like that. A lot

1948
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: of teams are cleaning above board when and was Todd

1949
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: Gurley hurt last year. So you kind of wonder how

1950
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,560
Speaker 1: teams would manage that, and how the league would manage that.

1951
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: I would think you'd have to expand rosters. The NFLP

1952
01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: would have roster and salary cap concerns. The NFL just

1953
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: brought in. They just released their income statement. I believe,

1954
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: either yesterday or today, league is making money hand over fist.

1955
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 1: You have the CVA coming up. I would assume the

1956
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: NFLPA would demand a larger slice of the pie than

1957
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,560
Speaker 1: I believe. Right now, it's forty seven point five for

1958
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: the players for the allotted cap. I would think that

1959
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: would have to go up, especially with a new TV contract.

1960
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff there. I don't know, with

1961
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: everything else both the league and the players Association has

1962
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: to deal with. I know the NFL the owners really

1963
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: want this for obvious financial reasons. You know, dunk it

1964
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: down to two preseason games and have eighteen regular season games.

1965
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: That makes sense from an owner's perspective. I just think

1966
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 1: there are so many complications no matter how you try

1967
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: and slice that pie. I'm just not sure it can

1968
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: happen by the new CBA now. I would imagine the

1969
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 1: owners will make it a major weight of contention, and

1970
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: if they's a lockout, as there was during the last negotiations,

1971
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,560
Speaker 1: I think that could be a primary issue. You know,

1972
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: I don't have ostensibly, I don't have a problem with

1973
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: eighteen games and sixteen games in a season for players.

1974
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: I just you know, I think as a rule, Roger

1975
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Goodell tends to be kind of a ready fire aim commissioner,

1976
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 1: and this has a ready fire aim feel to it.

1977
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 1: One of the things do you think that the players

1978
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: after giving back last cbay the owners kind of rubbed

1979
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: their face in the fact they gave back four percent

1980
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: of the gross revenue split that they got from the

1981
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 1: league over some some of the other issues. Do you

1982
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: think the players would say, Okay, you can have the

1983
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 1: eighteen games if you give us back that four percent

1984
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 1: that we gave you the last time around and that

1985
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: and they would move on from there. I think they

1986
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 1: would need more in return than just a four percent,

1987
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: and it may not not like a larger percentage. But

1988
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, looking at the medicial Mirijuana issue that you know,

1989
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things to look at the

1990
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: way insurance is done, the way pensions are done. And

1991
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this because I mean, the players and

1992
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: the Players Association felt like they entered into good faith

1993
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: with the owners to have the twenty eleven season happen.

1994
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: And as you said, the owners kind of put it

1995
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: in their faces after the fact. It's one of the

1996
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 1: reasons the new negotiations are and I've talked to people

1997
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: pretty high up the new negotiations are going to be

1998
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 1: far more contentious than the last ones. I would be

1999
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: categorically surprised if there isn't a lockout of some length.

2000
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: And I think it'll take more. Whatever the owners want,

2001
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: I believe they're gonna have to give back more than

2002
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: they would have a decade ago. Do you think it'll

2003
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,839
Speaker 1: be a lockout not a strike, Oh, it'll be a lockout.

2004
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the players will strike. And Doug the commissioners,

2005
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 1: said he would love to get a new CBA before

2006
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: this season begins. It sounds like you think that is

2007
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: what highly unlikely impossible. Maybe well, i'd like in nineteen

2008
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:06,719
Speaker 1: sixty eight Shelby Mustang doesn't mean I know I always

2009
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: say to people, I want a pony yeah, same idea exactly. Yeah.

2010
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 1: Hey Dow. Last time we had it on the show

2011
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, we talked a little bit

2012
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: about your book, The Genius of Desperation. I'm a mad

2013
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: on my word. I told you I would get it.

2014
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm reading it. I started it on vacation a couple

2015
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I love the book, The Genius of Desperation,

2016
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: So let me start with that. Congratulations. It's a really

2017
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: interesting book, the schematic innovations that made the modern NFL. Thanks,

2018
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I want to ask defense exactly. And

2019
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 1: that's why I want to ask you about it. And

2020
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: that was fairly early in the book. And you started

2021
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 1: out talking about, first of all, the nineteen sixty San

2022
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers offense Sid Gilman. Look, we've all known and

2023
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: we pay homage to Sid Gilman as an offensive mastermind,

2024
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: the genius he really was. And you make that pretty

2025
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: playing start with that, if you would please. I'll desperation

2026
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: forced Sid Gilman to kind of come up with that

2027
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: offense that still has an impact in the NFL. Well,

2028
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Gilman was a successful college coach for a

2029
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: long time. He coached the Rams in the late nineteen fifties,

2030
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: got fired from that, and he was one of the

2031
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: primary coaches when the American Football League started. I believe

2032
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: he and Hank Stram were the only coaches to have

2033
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 1: their teams all the way through that decade. So in

2034
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: what Sid had done by the time he got into

2035
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: the AFL, most of the defenses in the beginning of

2036
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: THEFL were not great because you were, you know, trying

2037
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: to throw schemes against the wall, and they were getting

2038
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: a bunch of NFL cast offs, So that helped Sid's case.

2039
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 1: But what he did, he was fond of saying that

2040
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: the field is one hundred yard one hundred yards long

2041
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: and fifty three and a third yards wide, and we're

2042
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: going to make use of every inch of it. And

2043
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 1: that's what he did. He expanded the vertical passing concepts

2044
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: to include far more route concepts. And what he did

2045
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: for running backs. Keith Lincoln and Paul Lowe were the

2046
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: primary backs the Chargers had in the early sixties, and

2047
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: they'd flare out in that old pro set, you know,

2048
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: one back to either side of the quarterback about three

2049
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: or four yards behind, and they would run routes off

2050
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: of that and it was far more than simple screen

2051
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: or swing passes. I mean, I don't know the book

2052
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,719
Speaker 1: in front of me, but I believe that I've seen

2053
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Sid's Eagles playbook from when the Eagles went to the

2054
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in nineteen eighty and at that point he

2055
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: had about twenty five different singular and combo route concepts

2056
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 1: just for his running backs. I mean, and Al Davis

2057
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: and Bill Walsh will both tell you that most of

2058
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: what they did in their careers they learned from Sid Gilman.

2059
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: He's one of the top five offensive minds in Pro

2060
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: football history, without question. And that takes us to the Bills,

2061
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 1: who in sixty four and sixty five went up against

2062
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 1: Gilman and the Chargers, and most Bills fans know Louse

2063
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Saman was the head coach, but the genius there in

2064
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: your book anyway, was the defensive coordinator. Later head coach

2065
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: Joe Codyer talk about him and what he did to

2066
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 1: shut down said Gilman and that Chargers offense. Well, it's

2067
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: like we've talked about the Hall of Fame every year

2068
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: and the contributed category and getting guys in the Hall

2069
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 1: of Fame who don't get to credit they deserve. Joe

2070
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: Collier is one of the more underrated coaches, regardless of offense,

2071
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: defense assistant whatever. You know, he followed Saban in Buffalo

2072
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: and that didn't work out. But as a defensive coach,

2073
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 1: I mean, he was running iterations of the three four

2074
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: a decade before Chuck Fairbanks and bum Phillips really brought

2075
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: it as a base in nineteen seventy four. And if

2076
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's enough stuff out there on YouTube of

2077
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:41,560
Speaker 1: the sixty three to sixty six Buffalo Bill's defense and

2078
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: what they did. They were running three four, they were

2079
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 1: running multiple fronts. They blitzed a lot. I mean, a

2080
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 1: decade before Joe Green had a stunt for three where

2081
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: he was at an angle right over the center. The

2082
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: Bills are doing that with linebackers, great secondary. It's a

2083
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 1: tremendously flaxable and multiple defense. In an era where pretty

2084
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: much everyone was playing the four three, there wasn't a

2085
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 1: lot of nickel and you just kind of lined up

2086
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: and went at it. And certainly when the Bills beat

2087
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: the Chargers in sixty four, you know Collier was using

2088
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: his zone blitzes. He was, you know, because in the

2089
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 1: early sixties, regardless of the league, there was a little

2090
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: bit of his own defense, but that didn't really happen

2091
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: until the early seventies. Don Shula brought that about, as

2092
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 1: did Don McCafferty. But they were, you know, running little

2093
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: zone structures that really got in the way of what

2094
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: Sid wanted to do. And then Joe Collier goes to

2095
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: Denver and builds the Orange Crush defense in the nineteen seventies.

2096
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: That's the guy who a does not get talked about

2097
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 1: and b deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

2098
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Speaker 1: it's it's difficult for guys like Joe Collier who weren't

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Speaker 1: successful as a head coach to get mentioned. Only Dick

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Speaker 1: Lebou has been enshrined in Canton as an assistant coach,

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Speaker 1: kind of a contributor, slash coordinator, defensive mind. Plus he

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Speaker 1: did have a great career as a player as well.

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Speaker 1: But Joe Collier was coaching in the National Football even

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Speaker 1: in my career. Great coaches kind of hang around for

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Speaker 1: a long time. And so, but your book that you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Genius of Desperation, what was some of

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Speaker 1: these Are there other instances in your book about desperation?

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Speaker 1: I remember telling Murph in the Last Break Joe Gibbs

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Speaker 1: the desperation that Lawrence Taylor and the Giants put into

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01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins when Lawrence Taylor emerged on of the scene,

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Speaker 1: that kind of evolved into the desperation. Their offense just

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Speaker 1: trying to get the ball off on a passing play

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Speaker 1: evolved into a whole offense in the because I go

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Speaker 1: my decade in the book, and before the first decade

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Speaker 1: is the beginning in nineteen twenty through nineteen forty nine

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01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: and fifty sixty, seventies, eighties and on and on, and

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Speaker 1: I go into two specific adjustments of teams made to

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor. And in Joe Gibbs's case, there was a

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Speaker 1: counter trait which he was using anyway, but the proliferation

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Speaker 1: of the h back the tight end butted up, you know,

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01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: right information that was a direct response to Lawrence Taylor

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Speaker 1: just beating the daylights that have every right and left tackle.

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01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 1: Saw Gibbs said, I have to put another guy here

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01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: or my quarterback is going to die. And so that

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01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 1: was one. And then I go into what Bill Walsh

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Speaker 1: did in the early eighties with the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: because you know, his tackles couldn't beat Lawrence Taylor either.

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01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 1: So he can what was called a molly block, which

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01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: was kind of a little bucket step to where you

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01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: know Lawrence Taylor is coming so fast you cannot beat

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Speaker 1: him from the line. What you do is it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a it's kind of a zone back pedal for

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Speaker 1: a left tackle, where you immediately, like right at the snap,

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Speaker 1: you are not like reacting to Lawrence Taylor specifically coming

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Speaker 1: around the art because you can't do that. You're just

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01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: like boom, You're one or two steps back and you're

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01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: just waiting to sort of catch him. And so Lawrence

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01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 1: Taylor forced two of the best coaches in NFL history

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01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: to devise different kinds of things just to stop him,

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01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,879
Speaker 1: which is fairly impressive. It's a really good book. I'm

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Speaker 1: enjoying it immensely, Doug Doug farrar our guest. The book

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01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: is The Genius of Desperation, about how desperate coaches sometimes

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01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: make genius moves. You do cover the current NFL in

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Speaker 1: your role as an NFL writer for USA Today, And

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01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: you've got a recent list that you ranked the top

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks. Who do you got at number one there, Doug?

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Speaker 1: Number one, I have Patrick Mahomes. When you drove fifty

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes at age twenty three, and you started one

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01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 1: game before that in your NFL career. You make number

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Speaker 1: one on my list, and it's you know the lists

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01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: are it's it's what you've done to a degree, but

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01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: it's really about what you did in twenty eighteen and

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01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 1: sort of where you're going. And there are some bills

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01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: on the lists. What do you got for bills? Do

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Speaker 1: you have the center? Right, Mitch Morris? I have number

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01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 1: four on my list of centers? Off hand? Can I

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Speaker 1: ask off and do you know who? Oh, let me

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Speaker 1: see you, let me see you, let me see. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go look at that right now. Oh oh good.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly of the Colts I have at number three,

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Speaker 1: Roger Hudson of the Raiders I have at number two,

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Speaker 1: and Jason Kelsey of the Eagles I have at number one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Trudavious White, by the way, is my number three outside cornerback?

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Speaker 1: What do you you also start to diversify in wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: It has been through the millennia, it's always been wide

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Speaker 1: receivers and running backs, and now you've got it's kind

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01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: of been diverged. Now you've got outside receivers and slot receivers. Now,

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Speaker 1: is it strictly an alignment thing where these guys are

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Speaker 1: or is it just predominantly where their production comes from.

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Speaker 1: How do you discern it's That's a good question. I

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Speaker 1: also I did the same thing with cornerbacks, outside cornerback

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Speaker 1: and slot corners. This probably won't make you guys too happy,

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Speaker 1: but Stefan Gilmour actually is in both since he played

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Speaker 1: about twenty one out of his snaps. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: really good player. Never one on my outside list, and

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Speaker 1: I believe he was ninth in slot. He didn't play

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Speaker 1: a lot of slot for the Patriots, but when he

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Speaker 1: did he was just I mean, he was even better

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Speaker 1: than the slot than outside. So yeah, it's it's role

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Speaker 1: to a degree, it's production to a degree. And I

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Speaker 1: would look at Pro Football Focus stats because they have,

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Speaker 1: you know, slot receiver in slot, cornerback production metrics, and

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Speaker 1: I would say, okay, let's go to the tape and

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Speaker 1: Paul at the all twenty two one game passed and

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Speaker 1: see what these guys are really doing, because you guys

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Speaker 1: know this, stats don't tell the whole story. You have

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Speaker 1: to watch the tape too, And a lot of it

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01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:54,799
Speaker 1: came about through you know, just um, but the stats

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Speaker 1: make you aware and then you watch the tape to

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Speaker 1: see what the guy's really doing. Right on yours of

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Speaker 1: slot wide receivers, Cole Beasley does not show up on

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Speaker 1: that list. The Bills spent considerable money to bring him

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Speaker 1: in here and plug him in as there slot wide out.

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Speaker 1: How's Cole Beasley missing from that list and what kind

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Speaker 1: of an impact you think he might have for Buffalo? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can say, is he one of the

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Speaker 1: eleven best players at his position? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: his role with the Cowboys was pretty limited. Cowboys passing

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Speaker 1: offense was also really limited too, It's where they got

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Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. I think he is specifically for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. When you have a young quarterback who's still

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Speaker 1: kind of learning what he's doing, any kind of security

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01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 1: blanket you can give him is extremely valuable. And that's

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Speaker 1: what Beasley kind of does. You know, he you know

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Speaker 1: he's going to be there for the five yards slant,

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Speaker 1: seven years, quick out whatever. You know, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be there on those the simple quick route concepts that

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01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: chew up yardage. So I think in Buffalo's case, specifically,

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Speaker 1: easily is more valuable than you might be somewhere else

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Speaker 1: with the veteran quarterbacks who might want a more expansive

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Speaker 1: slot game. You know what the Patriots want him. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the you know what the Packers want him?

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Speaker 1: Not sure, but I think he fits a buffalo, wants

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Speaker 1: to do as Josh Sallan kind of gets his feet

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Speaker 1: under him. You also, I want to ask you this, Doug.

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Speaker 1: You have a your ranking of running backs top NFL

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01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 1: running backs? Is there a spot in the NFL? Melvin

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01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: Gordon has made headlines lately where he's not going to

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01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 1: sign come into training camp, or he's gonna hold out

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Speaker 1: unless he gets a new deal. We've seen the drama

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Speaker 1: with Levion Bell in Pittsburgh. You've got Ezekiel Elliott who

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Speaker 1: is coming back for a contract negotiation with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: coming up very soon. And then you see what happened

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Speaker 1: with Todd Gurley. He signed an enormous deal and now

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Speaker 1: his career looks to be limited in how long he's

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Speaker 1: gonna last in the NFL. Is there a spot in

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Speaker 1: the NFL for running back to be that highly paid

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Speaker 1: because their job is a easily replaceable and be really

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Speaker 1: dangerous and you may not have him for the length

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Speaker 1: of the contract. I think running backs are more fungible

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Speaker 1: than most positions, but I think the fungibility of a

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Speaker 1: back still depends on specific skill set. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: that Jets paid Levan Bell as much as they did,

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Speaker 1: even though I know the coach, the coaching staff of

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01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: the gym were, you know, at odds about this. Levian

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Speaker 1: Bell would make it in the NFL purely as a

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Speaker 1: slot receiver. He's that good when he's running routes. He's

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01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 1: that good as an overall receiver. Thenue factor in his

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Speaker 1: productivity as a running back, and he's not you know,

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Speaker 1: he's not De DeVante Freeman, he's not Novin Gordon. He

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Speaker 1: brings a lot more to the table than the typical

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Speaker 1: running back. There are some guys who were outliers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is Zekiel Elliott maybe had his best season last year

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Speaker 1: when the Cowboys offensive line was ravaged with injuries. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin was her, Tyron Smith was her. Travis Frederick

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01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: is out for a whole year, and he single handedly

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Speaker 1: he kept that run game going. So I know, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of narratives and specific metrics that go

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Speaker 1: into the running You know, position X is fungible. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can do position X because the players

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01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: are so different. What they bring to the table is

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01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: so different. I mean, and Gurley a transcendent back. His

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Speaker 1: problem is just that he keeps going back to his

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01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: college days. He's got an injury history that's very worrisome

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Speaker 1: and no one's gonna do with a guy like that.

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Speaker 1: And Melvin Gordon has had his own injury concerns. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles gave Carson once one hundred and seven million

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01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: dollars in guaranteed money despite the faculties at season ending

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01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,839
Speaker 1: injuries the last two years. Well, it's because he's a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If you're a running back, forget it. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: going to play for the league minimum with a history

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01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 1: like that. So I think it is positional. But you

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01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: have to look at these players as what do they

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01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 1: bring to the table as opposed to the running back

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Speaker 1: position is automatically, you know. Blinking out. Our guest is

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Speaker 1: a Doug Were, our NFL writer for USA Today's Sports.

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Speaker 1: Just a minute or two left, Doug, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about something you've written lately about the Packers

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01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers and the scent you have that Rogers

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01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: is going to have to change his approach a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Right with a new head coach, he might not have

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Speaker 1: the freedom he had under coach McCarthy. Yeah, And it's

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01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 1: an interesting it's it's I had when I put on

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Speaker 1: my quarterback rankings today. I had someone asked me if

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01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: the Rams could trade Jared Goffer Baker Mayfield, would they

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01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: do it? And my first thought was if I was

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Speaker 1: If I was the Rams, I would do that so

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01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 1: quickly everyone's head would stin. But then you think about, well,

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01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 1: Jared Goff is a system quarterback, and Sean Iccvey has

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01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 1: a very particular system, and Freddy Kitchens kind of let

2281
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 1: Mayfield let it, kind of let it rip and improvise more.

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Speaker 1: Rogers is used to a really really simplistic system. I mean,

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01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: most of what I've seen from the Packers could come

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01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 1: right out of the nineteen seventy three Miami Dolphins playbook.

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01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 1: It's not it's not sophisticated at all. Within that Rogers,

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01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 1: who I think may be the most physically gifted quarterback. Ever,

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01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 1: as far as the entire skill set, he would improvise

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01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: a lot. He would go off script. Matt with Fleur

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01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:18,919
Speaker 1: comes in. He's got very specific RPO concepts, route concepts.

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01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 1: This is what you do with play action. You know,

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01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Rogers is going to have to work in his scheme.

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01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: And it's one thing, you know, if you're like Peyton

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01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 1: Manning and you're going from Tom Moore to Gary Kubiak,

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01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 1: you're kind of used to adhering to a system. Even

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01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: if you're Tom Brady and you've had Josh McDaniels twice

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01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 1: and this guy and that guy and Charlie Weisson, whoever,

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01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: you're used to put that systemic structure. Rogers really isn't.

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01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: He hasn't had that for a long time. So I

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01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: think it's going to take a while. This sort of

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01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 1: just bring him under rain to a certain degree. And

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01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 1: given the talent of the guy he has at this

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Speaker 1: and the flour is going to have to bend a

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01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: little bit too. He's going to have to understand that

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01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 1: Rogers plays brilliantly outside of structure, and you know it's

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Speaker 1: the same. You know, Pete Carroll is a very structure

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Speaker 1: minded coach, especially on offense. He's got a guy who

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01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 1: improvises brilliantly, and it's it's being a jazz band. I mean,

2308
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: you can have John Coltrane in your band and all

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01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna do is play the hits. Now you want

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 1: him to improvise a little bit, So both of those

2311
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 1: guys are going to have to figure that out. That

2312
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: can be kind of fun to watch. Basically. Yeah, hey, Doug,

2313
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: thanks for this again. I'm really enjoying the book. We'll

2314
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: give it one more plug. The Genius of Desperation. I'm

2315
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: right in the middle of it. Thanks for joining US

2316
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: City to talk about that and to talk about what's

2317
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: going on in today's NFL. Well you appreciate it. Well,

2318
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoy the kid gun stuff too. Yeah,

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01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 1: all right, I'll get to that. Thanks Doug Ferrari's NFL

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01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: writer for USA Today's Sports, the author of the Genius

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01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: of Desperation book that I'm reading right now. Now. Cool

2322
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: it is to be able to talk to the author

2323
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 1: about the book that you have. It's true. It's interesting too,

2324
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: because I've seen that in action. Yeah, I remember Teddy

2325
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: Marcha brode To standing in front of a who's who's

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01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 1: in my mind, a Hall of Fame caliber guy who

2327
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: has a head coach assistant coach from Offensive Mind. Teddy

2328
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: was an awesome coach and a wonderful guy, and I

2329
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: loved him to death to see him stand up in

2330
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 1: front of a group of guys full of Hall of

2331
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 1: a room full of Hall of famers and saying, here, guys,

2332
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. They're doing this. We've got

2333
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: to do this because if we you know, they've got

2334
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: some stuff here we got to deal with, right. It

2335
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 1: was fun to watch because it's so creative. There's so

2336
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: many you know's, it's not like art because there's no limits.

2337
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: You know, you can kind of pull in whatever. But

2338
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 1: this said he had eleven guys against their eleven guys,

2339
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 1: and he had certain rules where we had to align

2340
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: and you had to go. And it was fun to

2341
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: listen and have him rationalize and say, here's the logic

2342
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: behind what we're doing. And man, when you you got

2343
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: that and you started practicing it and you install it

2344
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: and to see it work, I understood then why guys

2345
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 1: got into coaching and why some guys are really good

2346
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 1: at it. Teddy Marcha Broto was so fun. Nick Nikolau

2347
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 1: another guy that was. They were just so fun to

2348
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: be a part of and watch them work, and that's

2349
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 1: book by Doug Farrar. You know, kind of let you

2350
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 1: in those meeting rooms and you can get literally the

2351
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 1: desperation they what are we gonna do? Yeah, we gonna win.

2352
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 1: When you say you understand why guys get into coaching,

2353
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Because of the artistry involved, the

2354
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:26,240
Speaker 1: creativity we see. You see guys the love and respect

2355
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 1: who are working hard, doing a plan that you came

2356
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: up with and doing it all together and to come

2357
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 1: out and have it work. There's something uniquely rewarding about that. Bet. Yeah,

2358
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's a good book, thanks to Doug Ferrar.

2359
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: When we come back, we expect to be in studio

2360
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: with a guy who is from a different sport. He's

2361
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 1: in his third season in the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup series.

2362
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Suarez schedule to join us to talk about racing

2363
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 1: and Watkins Glenn coming up in a couple of weeks.

2364
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 1: Come on back for that. One Bill's Live from One

2365
01:57:52,680 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, One Bill's

2366
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: Hide from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy back with Steve Tasker.

2367
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: How do you like having me back? Steve? It's been great,

2368
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: particularly since we got right into our heated discussion that

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01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: we've been having off the air and on the air

2370
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: for like whatever. However, I'm too laid back, relaxed to

2371
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 1: really argue with this. My opinion has not changed, and

2372
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: I think the it's bizarre. Do you have an eighteen

2373
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 1: game regular season schedule in limit players to sixteen. I

2374
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 1: think it's it's a disservice to the fans. I think

2375
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: it's not a disservice to the game. You could say, yes,

2376
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: it's a disservice of the game, but I'm just not

2377
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: in the mood to argue with you about it today.

2378
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 1: And now the fund's out of it, now that it's

2379
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 1: been legitimized, it's not right out of the mainstream. It's

2380
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 1: not such an I don't feel so, you know, because

2381
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 1: I spent time the last couple months telling you you're crazy.

2382
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 1: It was, and now that the commissioners talking about fund

2383
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: being normal, you can't just say you're crazy anymore. That's right,

2384
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 1: all right? So we'll take more calls on that, and

2385
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll is going pretty well with almost eighteen

2386
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 1: more than eighteen hundred votes. What would an NFL right?

2387
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 1: What should that would? What should an NFL regular season

2388
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 1: schedule look like, should you keep it at sixteen games

2389
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 1: just as it is? Fifty one percent of you say yes,

2390
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 1: that's the way it should go. Should it be eighteen

2391
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 1: games in the players play at all, twenty nine percent

2392
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 1: say that's the way to do it. Should it be

2393
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 1: what the commissioner talked about the other day? Eighteen games

2394
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: and the players played just sixteen only fifteen percent by

2395
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 1: end of the tasker plan only fifteen percent five percent

2396
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: of something else in mind. Give us a call and

2397
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 1: we'll discuss eight O three five fifty and toll free

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01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two US drop that

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Speaker 1: for a minute. We're we're gonna drop that because we

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01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 1: have a special guest in studio with her with us.

2401
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: He is a driver in his third season on the

2402
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 1: Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series. He drives the number forty

2403
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 1: one Stewart House Racing Ford Fusion. Daniel Suarez in studio

2404
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: with us, looking over things that one builds drive a

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01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before the go bowling at the Glen

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01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 1: Race weekend day. You're welcome, good to have you here.

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02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. How are you guys doing today? We're

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02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: doing good. Great. And I drove the pace car last

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02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 1: year at the event. Yeah, I know that. Did you

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02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 1: know that? Okay? Yeah, so I was shocked at not

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02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 1: only the venue but also about you know, the atmosphere

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02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:17,000
Speaker 1: and all that is. It's kind of awesome to be there.

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02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 1: But tell me compare Watkins Glenn and the venue with

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02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 1: other venues that you were. I mean, you were in

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02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 1: Kentucky just this weekend. Yeah. You know, something I really

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02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 1: love Watton Lenny's is that the funds are so passionate

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02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 1: and they go there to camp that week and weekend. Right. Actually,

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02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:38,560
Speaker 1: I was just talking with my friend from with my

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02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 1: friend from the racetrack, and they're heading into the fifth

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02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 1: year straight sold out and all these these things to

2421
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 1: the funds, you know, and just just very happy to

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02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 1: come back. Actually, Waton GLENNI is a very good racetrack

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02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 1: for me. We have had very strong results in the

2424
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 1: last couple of years and uh and we're looking forward

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02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 1: to another w one. August fourth is the day for

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02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: the race of Watkins Glenn go bowling into Glenn. It's

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02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 1: a big weekend of racing there. It's a road course,

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02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 1: one of what two or three road courses exactly one

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02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 1: of one of three, three, one of three and uh

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02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 1: and for me, it's a lot of fun racing road course.

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02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 1: You know, every time people ask me a which one

2432
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 1: is your favorite racetrack and obviously the first question back

2433
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 1: is okay, owal to road course because that's a completely

2434
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:23,520
Speaker 1: different deal. And road course for me a lot of fun.

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02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 1: That's what I grew up doing. Really, I grew up

2436
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 1: doing Gold Course and in Mexico, US and even a

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02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 1: little bit in Europe. And for me, that's kind of

2438
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 1: like my my my basics. You know, how did you yeah,

2439
02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 1: how do you stay sharp because ovals turn left all

2440
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,120
Speaker 1: the time? How do you stay sharp at being road

2441
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 1: course ready? And how difficult it is to go from

2442
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: oval to road course? I expect road courses are much

2443
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 1: more difficult. It's different, you know, it's very different because

2444
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 1: road course, you know, you make a mistake and you

2445
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: you go out of the racetrack. In a noble you

2446
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: make a mistake and you hit the wall. So the

2447
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:01,720
Speaker 1: line of mistake in noble is very very fine, because

2448
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 1: you make a mistaken you have to bring the back up,

2449
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 1: the backup car, which is the which is never good.

2450
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, it's just a completely different game.

2451
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:12,960
Speaker 1: I would say that maybe ten years ago, uh, the

2452
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: NASCAR drivers they were not great at rod course racing,

2453
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:18,280
Speaker 1: and they were bringing some other road course drivers from

2454
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 1: different places and they were they were kicking everyone's yeah,

2455
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: okay in racing. So now today everyone is so good

2456
02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 1: that you can bring whoever you want and uh and

2457
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 1: because these guys they know these race tracks and these

2458
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 1: cars so so well, it's very hard to to to

2459
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 1: be competitive. So honestly, I have I have enjoyed this

2460
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: so much and and it's been it's been a lot

2461
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:41,000
Speaker 1: of fun to be part of this. So you were

2462
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 1: in Kentucky this last week and you were the polesitter,

2463
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: and you led for forty nine laps and then you

2464
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 1: had a pitch stop, uh that took a little too long,

2465
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:50,880
Speaker 1: and you and you and you drop back after a

2466
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 1: yellow pitch stop, is that right? And then and then

2467
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 1: you had to then you had what was having uh

2468
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: uh of somebody that blew attire and you had going

2469
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 1: for pit and then you had to take a green

2470
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:03,200
Speaker 1: light pit stop. Then in the race, Yeah, we had

2471
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 1: a couple of things that didn't go didn't go away.

2472
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 1: We had a very fast race car a way which

2473
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 1: wasn't qualifying, and we let a bunch of laughs there.

2474
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:14,480
Speaker 1: But unfortunately we made a couple of mistakes there, uh,

2475
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, with a with the estratray and as well

2476
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 1: after that that didn't really put us too far behind,

2477
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: but after that we had a flat tire on the

2478
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: green and I had to pee on the green and

2479
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:28,680
Speaker 1: the plank wasn't to pee there. The estratray was telling

2480
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:31,000
Speaker 1: me to pee later, and kind of like they changed

2481
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,960
Speaker 1: the game a lot and and uh, and then we

2482
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 1: were already behind and and it's so difficult to come back.

2483
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 1: We at one point we're two laughs down and uh,

2484
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: and I had I was able to to to come

2485
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:45,120
Speaker 1: back one and then eventually the next one and we

2486
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 1: ended up finishing in the top ten, which it was

2487
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 1: good based on the day that we're having. But you know,

2488
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 1: we're fortunately that we had a very fast cartoon. How

2489
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 1: difficult is it to anticipate well, anticipate the unexpected? It

2490
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 1: is impossible. But you do have your pitch scheduled, but

2491
02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:02,360
Speaker 1: then if somebody blows it, somebody else blows it tire,

2492
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:04,480
Speaker 1: you can take a pit when you didn't really schedule one.

2493
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 1: And it's how do you stay flexible? Enough to do that,

2494
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 1: but still keep you know, your mind on your your schedule,

2495
02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: that your perfection schedule. Yeah, that's a difficult part that

2496
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to have your plan ABNC because you

2497
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 1: never know which one it's gonna work out. And if

2498
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: for example, that time that I had a flat tire,

2499
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 1: i peed, and if the cashtion was coming out later

2500
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 1: just after that, I was gonna be I was gonna

2501
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 1: be in big trouble because because you know, I peed

2502
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 1: on the green and everyone else was gonna put on

2503
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:37,560
Speaker 1: their caution. So, you know, it's sometimes it's just you

2504
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:39,880
Speaker 1: have to make your bed, you know, like any other sport,

2505
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: you have to make your bed and hopefully they do

2506
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:44,720
Speaker 1: you make the right one and uh the stick with it.

2507
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 1: Dan your Swarews our guests getting ready to run at

2508
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 1: Watkins Glenn in a couple of weeks that they go

2509
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 1: bowling at the Glenn Race weekend finishing eighth. You did

2510
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 1: not pick up any points right in the playoff race

2511
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: this past weekend, or did you? Well, we pick up

2512
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 1: the ape place, you know, points points, but the playoff

2513
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,840
Speaker 1: we're right there in the bubble. Actually we are four

2514
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: points behind the playoff goal line, which is which is

2515
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:12,920
Speaker 1: not horrible, but it's not great because the entire season

2516
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 1: we've been actually on the good side. But but you

2517
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 1: know how many events left. We have six races left,

2518
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: so we still have time. Do you get anything for

2519
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:25,560
Speaker 1: leading forty nine laps yesterday? You know, that's a good

2520
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 1: question because we don't get points for leading labs, but

2521
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 1: we do get points for stage points. And where it's

2522
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:34,919
Speaker 1: a stage points is like in last race in Kentucky

2523
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 1: in lap eighty and one sixty, you get points depending

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02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:43,160
Speaker 1: where you are in the racetrack. Unfortunately, the flat tire

2525
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 1: and the hut didn't help us to get any points

2526
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:49,120
Speaker 1: in those in those in either one. That's why some

2527
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:53,520
Speaker 1: drivers that they finished fifteen in the race, they could

2528
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: have get more points than medi I finished eight because

2529
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 1: they got some points in those stage points. So it

2530
02:05:58,040 --> 02:05:59,880
Speaker 1: was Kentucky was a good rascu for us, but it

2531
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a good race. Daniel. You mentioned how you have

2532
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:05,160
Speaker 1: to drive differently on a road course. Your entire crew,

2533
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:07,400
Speaker 1: right from the number forty one car, they have to

2534
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 1: set up the car differently on a road course. Right,

2535
02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 1: that's got to be kind of a difficult challenge for them.

2536
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 1: After being on the Ovals all this time. Actually it's

2537
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: a completely different car. Yeah, the car is different because

2538
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 1: the race card that we have for the ovals, you know,

2539
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: the weight of the car is everything is everything pulling

2540
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 1: to a left so we can we can turn and

2541
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:29,280
Speaker 1: we can go left as fast as possible. But when

2542
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: we go to a road course, the chass is completely

2543
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 1: different because everything is center gravity and we made the

2544
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 1: car go fast left and right. So it's a completely

2545
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 1: whole different game. So the only thing the same is

2546
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 1: the paint job, the forty one right, the paint skin,

2547
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 1: and the driver. Yeah that's over the mechanics. But but

2548
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:50,600
Speaker 1: car wise, the engine, different attires are different, the brakes,

2549
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 1: completely different setup, they transmission completely different. Like it's kind

2550
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 1: of like a completely different race card. Nest car driver

2551
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Suarez, and you deal with this for a couple

2552
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 1: more minutes. Hey out here it one BIS drive today.

2553
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 1: What do you think in the complex we saw you

2554
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: turn around, you around on the field a couple of minutes. Yeah,

2555
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. You know, a lot

2556
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:10,440
Speaker 1: of people don't know this, but the very first I've

2557
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 1: been living in the US for eight years now. I

2558
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 1: grew up in Mexico. I grew up in Mexico. But

2559
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 1: the very first time I moved to US was here

2560
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Yeah. And the reason why it was because

2561
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 1: the owner of the little team I was racing with

2562
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:27,920
Speaker 1: he lived here and I didn't know anything about racing

2563
02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:31,080
Speaker 1: through Williams. Ok, He'll lived here and he had a

2564
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,800
Speaker 1: very very little team. So I moved here in February.

2565
02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 1: It was very cool. He moved to Buffalo in February

2566
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:40,440
Speaker 1: from from a kid from Mexico. Skip that in mind,

2567
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: so it's the best. So it was very cool. I

2568
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 1: let us know. And it didn't last very long. I

2569
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:48,440
Speaker 1: ended up just three months here. I went back to Mexico.

2570
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 1: I packed all my stuff and then I drove to Charlotte,

2571
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 1: where I live right now. But well, yeah, it's always

2572
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: fun to come back here. It brings me a lot

2573
02:07:56,280 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 1: of memories eight years ago and it was a great experience. Actually,

2574
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 1: my friend Troy, he still is here. Are you an

2575
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 1: NFL fan? I know there's been NFL games played in

2576
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 1: Mexico City. Let's go. Yeah, yeah I am. And and honestly,

2577
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:09,480
Speaker 1: I become a bigger fan since I moved to the

2578
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 1: US because hopefully everyone everyone is a fine here and

2579
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:14,880
Speaker 1: you feel like out of the group if you are not.

2580
02:08:15,080 --> 02:08:18,280
Speaker 1: So I become more and more and more NFL fan

2581
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 1: when I when I'm over here. So bowling at the

2582
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:22,080
Speaker 1: Glen coming up, you're gonna be there. What are your

2583
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:25,520
Speaker 1: expectations for that race? Do you think that far ahead? Honestly,

2584
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 1: I tried to think one week at a time and

2585
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 1: this weekend where when I be racing loud on next

2586
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 1: week in pocon and they were coming to the Glen.

2587
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 1: But the Glenn has been very good to me. Actually

2588
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:38,160
Speaker 1: last year we finished third, the previous year we finished ford.

2589
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully we can skip the second and go, hey, you

2590
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 1: brought your own bowling pin two. You gotta go everywhere

2591
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 1: with that for one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is our bowling.

2592
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: You know they go bowling is gonna be sponsoring a race.

2593
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 1: They've been a sponsored a race for for us several

2594
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 1: years now. And you know, the glenns is an amazing place.

2595
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,280
Speaker 1: Like I said that, the fans make it so good

2596
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:03,040
Speaker 1: camping everywhere, and it's also the animal theory is so

2597
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 1: it's so good, so so so fun, and it's always

2598
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 1: good to come back. So I enjoyed it so much.

2599
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 1: I drove the pace car there last Sunday was last

2600
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 1: year for the same event, and it was such a

2601
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:16,640
Speaker 1: great experience and it's if you ever been there, you

2602
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 1: gotta put it at least on your bucket list, if

2603
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 1: not your regular yearly count. It's a it's a fun

2604
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:24,440
Speaker 1: events race close to Buffalo. Yeah, it's a phone race.

2605
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 1: And as a racecar driver, I'm telling you I love

2606
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 1: coming to here, to Westing and he's also a phone race.

2607
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 1: Rack Rod course, very very fast we have, we have

2608
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 1: we have some parts of that course that we are

2609
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 1: very very quick, but that's what we do right and

2610
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 1: that that makes us form for me. Good luck, you

2611
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 1: stay healthy and thanks for coming in here. We appreciate it.

2612
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 1: Thank you very thank you for having me. Daniel Suarez

2613
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 1: Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series driver visiting us at One

2614
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 1: Bills Drive today. He's going to be at the Gold

2615
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:54,880
Speaker 1: Bowling at the Glen Race weekend August fourth. It's a

2616
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 1: big race down there, just a couple of weeks away,

2617
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 1: and we're happy to have Daniel only here to talk

2618
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,840
Speaker 1: about that. Stephen I coming back One Bills Live from

2619
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:15,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Well here we

2620
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 1: are already. What have we learned from today's show, presented

2621
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 1: by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses

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02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 1: with the finest and security and home Theater the preferred

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02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:27,280
Speaker 1: alarm at home theater provider all the Buffalo Bills. What

2624
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:29,040
Speaker 1: have we learned? Doug Farrar was on the show with

2625
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 1: us earlier. On this hour, he covers the NFL for USA. Today,

2626
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,560
Speaker 1: Doug Farrar talked about Cole Beasley. He does not have

2627
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 1: him ranked as one of his top ten or eleven

2628
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 1: slot receivers in the NFL, but Farrar thinks he will

2629
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 1: have an impact on the Buffalo Bills offense. Specifically for

2630
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 1: the Bills. When you have a young quarterback who's still

2631
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 1: kind of learning what he's doing, any kind of security

2632
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 1: blank you can give him is extremely valuable. And that's

2633
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:59,040
Speaker 1: what Beasley kind of does. You know, you know he's

2634
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 1: going to be there for the five yard slant, seven

2635
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 1: year quick out, whatever. You know he's gonna be there

2636
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 1: on those the simple quick route concepts that chew up yardage.

2637
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 1: So I think in Buffalo's case specifically, Beasley is more

2638
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 1: valuable than you might be somewhere else with the veteran

2639
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who might want a more expansive slot game. You

2640
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 1: know what the Patriots want him. I don't know what

2641
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 1: the you know what the Packers want him? Not sure,

2642
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 1: but I think he fits a Buffalo, wants to do

2643
02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 1: as Josh Allen kind of gets his feet under him.

2644
02:11:31,320 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 1: Doug Perra talking about that. We had a really good

2645
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 1: topic of discussion today. And see if I'm proud of myself.

2646
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:39,320
Speaker 1: I never raised my voice, never really got into it

2647
02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:42,160
Speaker 1: with you on this. But look, it's a stupid idea.

2648
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 1: It's insult to fans, it degrades the game. I believe

2649
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 1: all that. I didn't quite verbalize that today because it's

2650
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: my first day back from vacation. I didn't want to

2651
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:54,800
Speaker 1: get all worked out. But I don't like this. What

2652
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 1: should an NFL regular season look like? And I'm happy

2653
02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 1: to say that most of our respondents on Twitter, close

2654
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 1: to two thousand agree with me. Fifty one percent say

2655
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:06,000
Speaker 1: leave it as is, twenty nine percent say okay, have

2656
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 1: an eighteen game schedule, but the players have to be

2657
02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 1: eligible to play in all of them, And only fifteen

2658
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:14,120
Speaker 1: percent adopt your playing eighteen games players only play sixteen

2659
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,360
Speaker 1: five percent of something else in mind, Look, I'm not

2660
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 1: it's just a bad idea, Steve, Yeah, nothing will change.

2661
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 1: I think the real the tenor of our discussion was

2662
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:25,240
Speaker 1: it's evolved over these months. We've talked about this thing

2663
02:12:25,360 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 1: a dozen times. I think it comes down to the

2664
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:31,840
Speaker 1: fact that it's it's awesome the way it is. Yeah,

2665
02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not broken in any way, shape or form.

2666
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 1: And I still think the owners have it out there

2667
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:40,360
Speaker 1: that there's more to get and you know how, let's

2668
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 1: go get it exactly. I think it does verge on

2669
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 1: a huge compromise to the quality of the product, and

2670
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 1: it's a product that has got them to the top

2671
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 1: of the sports pyramid. And I think when they start

2672
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 1: to feel like we start to do something like this

2673
02:12:57,200 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 1: where they compromise the quality of what's on the field

2674
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:01,600
Speaker 1: and anyway, shape or form, and I get it that

2675
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:04,560
Speaker 1: it's you know, and the proponents of this, like me

2676
02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:06,520
Speaker 1: being one of them, saying, listen, I get it that

2677
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be part of the rules. It's going

2678
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:10,360
Speaker 1: to be an extra degree of difficulty. It's gonna make

2679
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,480
Speaker 1: one of the things about this sports league unique in

2680
02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: that it's so physically demanding. You've got to make a

2681
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:19,160
Speaker 1: concession to the player's safety and give them a week

2682
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:21,400
Speaker 1: or two off, whatever however you want to spin it.

2683
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 1: It's an enormous compromise to the competitive level of being

2684
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:31,080
Speaker 1: pro sports. And for me growing up and being and

2685
02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:34,240
Speaker 1: don't play in the game, pro sports means something different.

2686
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 1: It means you're all in. This is for money, it's

2687
02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:41,880
Speaker 1: for meaning, it's for it's to win, and it's to

2688
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:46,160
Speaker 1: win a championship. It's it's big dudes competing for keeps

2689
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:50,360
Speaker 1: now and today and forget about tomorrow. That's what it means.

2690
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 1: And I think when you do, that's the big compromise

2691
02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:55,520
Speaker 1: that it would be. If you start saying, well, we

2692
02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:57,120
Speaker 1: got this guy who's really good, but you know what,

2693
02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:00,240
Speaker 1: it's it's his turn to sit down. I think that's

2694
02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:03,840
Speaker 1: that's a big step. We gotta go. We're back tomorrow

2695
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:05,480
Speaker 1: with noon. We'll see you then one. Bills Liive on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio